Author Topic: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Rucks

  • RPGFan Survey Hero
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2,018
  • Salvum est Vita!
    • View Profile
Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back
« Reply #5010 on: December 11, 2017, 08:27:19 AM »
The Wizard of Lies is a pretty good biopic about Bernie Madoff.  Robert De Niro is still brilliant when he actually gives a shit about the role he's taken.  Highly recommended to anyone with even a passing interest in fraudsters (or sociopaths for that matter).

"This goes way beyond pumpkin spice" "Whale oil beef hooked"

Lard

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5,981
    • View Profile
Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back
« Reply #5011 on: December 16, 2017, 11:29:07 AM »
Star Wars.

Utter fucking garbage.

So much pointless, wasted plot in that movie.
I avoid online multiplayer because my brain still works.

Hathen

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2,972
    • View Profile
Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back
« Reply #5012 on: December 16, 2017, 01:00:24 PM »
I liked the main plot thread with the Force users well enough. It had some neat subversions but one in particular I'm still not sure of.

(Ultra Mega Spoilers below, read at your own risk)

Spoiler: show
Snoke being out of the game so early in the plot is somewhat shocking (Though they made it a bit too predictable 5 seconds prior with Rey's lightsaber rotating- I get that it was to preserve continuity in the scene but I feel it kinda ruined what was meant to be a big plot twist. If they didn't have that shot it wouldn't be that hard to figure out what happened. Or, hell, a more subtle lightsaber rotating in a wide shot of Snoke instead of that close-up would've worked too) but it seems like something of a mistake. I really liked Kylo Ren as the enforcer villain and I found him compelling, but I don't feel he'll work as the main villain at all. Part of the reason he worked for me was precisely that he was not the main villain, because Snoke filling the role of being the real menace freed up Kylo Ren to be a more pitiful character.

I guess I'll see what they do with it though.


Didn't really like the Finn/Rose side plot.

Spoiler: show
I kinda get what they were trying to do with how it ended up, but I thought it really dragged the movie down. It somewhat ended up like a "had to give them something to do" plot. Wouldn't be a problem if it was interesting on its own, but I didn't find the casino planet interesting at all. I also didn't really get a good feel of Rose's character. Personality-wise she felt kinda bland, I don't feel her presence helped develop Finn, and her actions at the end of the movie just made her seem really short-sighted and dumb.

The romance angle felt really tacked-on too. I didn't really feel like they bonded during the scenes on the planet at all, Rose just dumped some backstory on Finn.


Also I really, really, dislike the Disney-Marvel style of comic relief here. Some of it did work okay when it felt like it was something the character might otherwise say, but other times it just deflated all the drama. Comic relief was in all the films too, but in the good ones they felt like they flowed naturally from the dialogue and the characters instead of obvious jokes that completely ruin the tone.

Can't do worse than Jar Jar Binks I suppose, though the mid-section of the movie did have the headscratching inclusion of some CGI abominations that were oddly reminiscent of some special edition changes/the prequels.

Lard

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5,981
    • View Profile
Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back
« Reply #5013 on: December 16, 2017, 10:41:38 PM »
I went back and watched the Phantom Menace to get the taste of Episode 8 out of my mouth.

Won't be watching Episode 9.
I avoid online multiplayer because my brain still works.

Hathen

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2,972
    • View Profile
Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back
« Reply #5014 on: December 17, 2017, 02:14:54 AM »
If there's one thing that lets me know not to take someone's opinion on the movie seriously, it's if they claim the prequels were in any way better. They completely dwarf the sequel trilogy in terms of annoying flaws and just plain failure at basic storytelling and character conception.

MeshGearFox

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10,525
  • HERE ON RUM ISLAND WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN RUM!
    • View Profile
Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back
« Reply #5015 on: December 17, 2017, 09:31:46 PM »
I'm not a star wars aficionado by any means so maybe I'm not the best person to be commenting on this but like

Spoiler: show

1. I don't really like what they did with Poe. He went from static-but-likable character to this... really mansplainy jerk that, when you get down to it, was basically responsible for getting most of the resistance killed because he was dumb?

2. Why didn't Purple-haired Admiral just tell everyone she was trying to fly everyone to a secret base up front and avoid the entire (pointless) sideplot with breaking into the ship to turn off the tracking device?

3. What was with all the really close up face shots? And super-claustrophobic camera angles in general?



I liked the force awakens a lot but I really don't know how I feel about this one :I
o/` I do not feel joy o/`
o/` I do not dream o/`
o/` I only stare at the door and smoke o/`

Rucks

  • RPGFan Survey Hero
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2,018
  • Salvum est Vita!
    • View Profile
Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back
« Reply #5016 on: December 17, 2017, 10:37:01 PM »
I went back and watched the Phantom Menace to get the taste of Episode 8 out of my mouth.

Won't be watching Episode 9.

lol, what?

that's like drinking paint thinner to get the taste of asphalt out of your mouth...

"This goes way beyond pumpkin spice" "Whale oil beef hooked"

Aeolus

  • This is the Monado's Powerbomb!
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10,269
  • Little did he know, the fall damage would KO him.
    • View Profile
Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back
« Reply #5017 on: December 18, 2017, 01:14:44 AM »
If there's one thing that lets me know not to take someone's opinion on the movie seriously, it's if they claim the prequels were in any way better. They completely dwarf the sequel trilogy in terms of annoying flaws and just plain failure at basic storytelling and character conception.

^This. There's nothing more impotent than Episode 1's hour and a half adventure just to meet up with a prepubescent kid and turn him into a Jedi. The start of Episode 2 should've been the start of Episode 1 where its Obi-wan and Anakin, roaming Croissant, busting crime before they get sucked into the Clone Wars. The only things that Episode 1 gave us were Jedis Liam Neison and Samuel Jackson, Darth Maul, and that weird as fuck ending sequence that Squeenix basically lifted wholesale for an early game FFXII cutscene (which was itself lifted from Episode IV's ending sequence in spirit).

The rest of the Prequel Trilogy biggest failings were overly long sequences (hi Episode 3 Obi-wan versus Anakin duel), bad acting (caused largely by turning Episode Two into one long greenscreen sequence), the fact that they basically skipped the Clone Wars almost altogether (to eventually turn it into a TV series), and the fact that they had to be shoehorned into two movies with Episode 1's awful plot arcs leading the way.
In my vision, I see that one of us is going to KO the other.

Dincrest

  • RPGFan Editor
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 15,579
    • View Profile
    • RPGFan
Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back
« Reply #5018 on: December 18, 2017, 05:42:03 AM »
With the Star Wars prequels, I blame the directing more than the acting since Natalie Portman, Ewan MacGregor, and company are all skilled actors.  Hayden Christiansen too.  He was very good in Shattered Glass and in the Star Wars prequels, he was at his best when he wasn't talking.  When he was acting purely through facial expressions and not saying a word of insipid dialogue, he was chilling in Ep. 3. 

I will be seeing Last Jedi next week.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2017, 05:44:04 AM by Dincrest »
Okay, so you have 5000 friends/followers/etc. on social media.  But how many of them will help you move?

Hathen

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2,972
    • View Profile
Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back
« Reply #5019 on: December 18, 2017, 05:58:37 AM »
In concept, I actually think all the prequels had some good ideas on the table. But I'd also say that about Star Trek V. Or Batman v Superman.

Arvis

  • Prudish Gerontophobe
  • RPGFan Survey Hero
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2,850
  • Computer Over. Virus = Very Yes.
    • View Profile
Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back
« Reply #5020 on: December 18, 2017, 11:26:58 AM »
Hot Take: Lard has his posts pre-written and ready to post before he saw the movie.  What do you guys think?
"You know, you're pretty cool too, Arvis.  You like good music, good games, and good tennis." - Divingfalcons

Dincrest

  • RPGFan Editor
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 15,579
    • View Profile
    • RPGFan
Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back
« Reply #5021 on: December 20, 2017, 07:02:17 PM »
Watching tons of holiday movies with the students this week at work. 

Everyone loves the movie Elf with Will Ferrell, and I seem to be the only one who finds the film gratingly annoying.  Maybe it's because I find Will Ferrell irritating, but whatever. 

In another class, we're watching that Arnold Schwarzenegger film Jingle All the Way.  That film is pretty stupid too, but it has some moments that made me chuckle.

My all time favorite Xmas movie is hands down The Nightmare Before Christmas.  Sadly, none of the teachers I work with this year are showing it. 
Okay, so you have 5000 friends/followers/etc. on social media.  But how many of them will help you move?

Frostillicus

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1,611
    • View Profile
Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back
« Reply #5022 on: December 21, 2017, 11:57:37 AM »
^ Watched "Elf" for the first time in years this past weekend. It was my son's first time seeing it, and he enjoyed it. I like it myself, although it does try a little too hard to be 'sweet' at times.

Also watched "The Santa Clause" a few weeks back. Also my son's first time, and he absolutely loved it. Still talks about it to this day. I think it's a pretty good holiday movie. Tim Allen doesn't have much range (something he admits), but he can be enjoyable when he's in his zone (like this movie, and Galaxy Quest).

"NL's Christmas Vacation" and the OG version of "It's a Wonderful Life" are coming via Netflix's DVD service this weekend. My son will definitely not be seeing the former.

Rucks

  • RPGFan Survey Hero
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2,018
  • Salvum est Vita!
    • View Profile
Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back
« Reply #5023 on: December 21, 2017, 12:15:28 PM »
re: The Santa Clause.

Judge Rheinhold and his weenie whistle ftw.

Tim Allen is awful

"This goes way beyond pumpkin spice" "Whale oil beef hooked"

Frostillicus

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1,611
    • View Profile
Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back
« Reply #5024 on: December 21, 2017, 01:14:59 PM »
^ I don't know.. For whatever reason, I don't mind him so much as other not-good actors.

*I actually would have thrown Big Trouble in the list of movies I like with him in it, but the music in the film is so bad, it ruins the whole thing for me.

EDIT: Also, he IS Buzz Lightyear. That role was originally intended for Billy Crystal, and honestly, that would have been a strange voice for that character. Although I admit I probably only feel that way because it's in retrospect.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2017, 01:19:33 PM by Frostillicus »