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General Discussions / Re: What's the haps?
« on: February 28, 2014, 06:01:31 AM »
Honestly, you'd get your point across better if you didn't keep turning the sarcasm knob to eleven or going for hyperboles. Now you're making yourself just look extremely unlikable :/

yeah, tried that. It got words shoved unceremonious into my mouth. Now I'm just spitting those words back out.
I'm embracing the scapegoat role. Isn't that what people want? You get praise for praising the person who demonized things I didn't say. Me actually embracing that role is bad?
Not like I'm going to be here long anyway. Get your lashes in. Have fun with it.

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General Discussions / Re: What's the haps?
« on: February 28, 2014, 05:40:21 AM »
(Also yeah, I'm not an uterus either! Sure, I have one, but aside from those few days a month I don't notice it's there. That organ does not define who or what I am. Sure, various female hormones influence my looks and probably some of my behaviour/feelings as well, but I'm an individual with both masculine and feminine traits. Just like everyone else.)

. It's easy to say gender does not matter, but the reality is, it does. It's a part of our identity. That part may be small or big. Something that we struggle with or something that gives us confidence. By saying it does not matter, your denying things that are important to people. And you know what? That hurts.



You know what, just to be done with this, you're right (the second you, I mean). You are 100% right. The effort people have put into NOT being judged by their differences have been completely misguided.  My claims to human equality were completely misguided. Objectivity and science are just weak excuses in my false claim to human equality.
 Gender does play an important role in identiy, and those roles aren't socially indoctrinated or personally defined, but 100% innate. The large percentage of people who somehow stray from predefined gender/racial roles are obviously bizarre flukes and exceptions. People are inherently different, and they should be treated different. In fact, there should be a system and heirarchy defining how to properly treat people who fall into those diverse categories, and people straying from those mores should be severely punished.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to scalp some white folk and hang out naked in a tent. Because that's what defines me.


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General Discussions / Re: What's the haps?
« on: February 28, 2014, 04:51:27 AM »
Yeah....not touching that with a 10 foot pole. Last time feminism was brought up, genitals everywhere were kicked.

Are you saying this prank has been played on someone before?
It's really a lose/lose situation for the victim, because I realize, being the new blood, I'm probably going to be banned under the false pretense of being the instigator.
But just ignoring the demonizing words/concepts/ideas being put into my mouth would be tacit agreement to things I never said; things exactly opposite to what I espouse.
Is there a winning scenario in this nonsense?

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General Discussions / Re: What's the haps?
« on: February 28, 2014, 04:00:29 AM »
I have an assignment due tomorrow (which my TA has ignored questions I have about it), another due monday, my opinion about women is apparently too strong or even wrong to a mostly male forum (I think the bigger offence is that I'm not even quoted in order to create actual and relevant discourse), the guy calling women a "uterus" is apparently still making valid arguments that aren't being shot down at all (I've also apparently been 'poisoned' by women), a facebook post for you and I turned into a gender/race topic (that fortunately worked itself out at least) and, best of all, I got my credit card statement that I can't pay because my school is slow as hell returning the money.

For lack of better words: Today's just been a hell of a rollercoaster.

Didn't really have the chance to say it in the NGJ, so I'll say it here: Dice, thank you for always coming up with good responses when a gender topic comes up. I rarely have the energy to enter one of those debates, but I always enjoy reading your posts and it's a shame some guys see you as some crazy man-hating feminist just because you're not on their side. You're not like that. Your view on gender and smart and well-rounded and for that I thank you.


Dude. . . really?
Her responses were to things I didn't even say. If you interpreted it the same way, then you have the same defensive misconceptions. I wasn't saying what you seem to think I was if you thought her responses were even remotely relevant. --She called me a misogynist for saying that women are equally flawed and human as men, and an idiot for thinking feminism should be about equality, not hate.
And nobody accused her of being one of the man-hating feminists, that was in relation to what feminism is largely regarded lately because of the more aggressive outspoken ones who spend all their time ranting about patriarchal society and the innate rapist tendencies of penis bearing mammals, giving the feminist movement a bad name after it's achieved so much.

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(Also yeah, I'm not an uterus either! Sure, I have one, but aside from those few days a month I don't notice it's there. That organ does not define who or what I am. Sure, various female hormones influence my looks and probably some of my behaviour/feelings as well, but I'm an individual with both masculine and feminine traits. Just like everyone else.)

You do realize that was MY stance, right? And that my facetious repetition of anatomy was a blatant lampoon of the ludicrousness of reducing a human being to being defined by their organs. (if it makes you feel better, change the word uterus to mammaries; maybe it sounds better to you, but it's just as silly) 

Didn't the God Hand already say to desist with this? Please stop baiting me. I suspect everybody understood me just fine and this is some kind of elaborate trolling.
--in fact I tried to clear things up with Dice in PM, and she ignored it and made that public post AFTERWARD, adhering to a representation she knew was false, which gives the impression it's just for attention. 
Again--people, please stop baiting me.  Just let it go. Science has proven that humans are inherently bisexual prior to social conformity, and gender can be medically altered.  I don't know what more proof you could need to see that X and Y aren't so different, no matter how much you want to think that your organ defines you  in some way.

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General Discussions / Re: What's the haps?
« on: February 27, 2014, 09:01:56 PM »
As of today, Nan and I have been married for 15 years. Damn. Time flies. I got her some Swarovski Crystal purple earrings, and a necklace. I felt proud for looking up what the 15th anniversary meant. Crystal, apparently.
We take the day off work every year, and had hoped to go to the arboretum and do some snowshoeing. Unfortunately, it's BuFu cold out, and we had to settle for a kick ass BBQ lunch(best Brisket EVAR!) and a movie. I took tomorrow off, too, just for the heck of it, which just means the pile of work will be that much bigger on Monday. One day at a time, though.


That's great!  It's really admirable when a couple stays so close and romantic even after that long. Too many people don't treat their spouses right pre-marriage, never mind after several years, never mind a generation.
Kinda envious. :S
I offer a toast to the next fifteen years. 

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General Discussions / Re: What's the haps?
« on: February 27, 2014, 08:05:58 PM »
Holy shit, so I come back from the depths of hell and the NEW GAME JOURNAL thread goes insane.. I cant reignite the debate obviously but I feel like both parties were misinterpreting and overreacting to each other's arguments instead of having a clear headed discussion, anyhow that's irrelevant now but Im happy to be back.
Im tired as shit, I also got rid of my military duties today(it's just showing up there for 1 day, listen to some boring shit, get a document and go back home.).
DANGANRONPA TANANANANANAANANANAAAAA(http://youtu.be/76wWVp-JIO8), yeah Im not making too much sense, sorry about that.

Feel free to hit me up with your thoughts via PM. The fact you say "both" gives the impression you can grasp satire and... English, and I love a lively clear headed discussion so long as it doesn't turn into mudslinging. (then I get snarky :[ )
 I'd love to hear your thoughts in a. . . rational manner.

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General Discussions / Re: Random and Amazing Pictures, Please!
« on: February 27, 2014, 05:09:13 PM »

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General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal
« on: February 27, 2014, 04:41:47 PM »
I liked the part where people disregarded reading comprehension and repeatedly applied hyperbole to exaggerate and project things that weren't implied.

What, you mean like this?

I envy you for missing it.
It boils down to:
"sexism is bad"
"sexism is important"
"an (imaginary) uterus doesn't make bad writing worse any more than it makes humans worse."
"You're a misogynist."

No, wait, that was you who wrote that...

Yes it was. My entire point was that sexism is bad and that bad writing of a female character is no worse than bad writing of a male character.  You're free to disagree though. :)

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General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal
« on: February 27, 2014, 04:26:09 PM »

Samus is still cool to me ( I have never played Other M) as are feminists and I am NOT a stoner!! LoL

Truth be told, even many moons ago, whilst heavily drug addled and knee deep in addiction I didn't like Marijuana. Always made everything feel a lot more difficult then it really was for me.


I wasn't judging. :P I've had stoner friends; they're laid back enough to tolerate the fact I'm an 80s principal at heart, calling everybody slackers and pointing at them with my pinky and index finger like bullhorns. :D

Anyway, I was just annoyed at having people debate logic with emotion, and calling me an idiot after repeatedly twisting my words into convoluted interpretations for the sake of scape-goating societal issues onto me. Sorry if I upset anybody... well, anybody who isn't obnoxious anyway. My own tone was civil the entire time, despite what emotion might project onto it. Let's move past it shall we?  :)

Beating Megaman bosses doesn't do much for me. Beating Ys bosses though...
Ys bosses are much more varied and give a much greater sense of accomplishment, I feel, than trial and error. Even if Galbalan was as frustrating as a Megaman boss.

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General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal
« on: February 27, 2014, 02:32:58 PM »
This is the second place I know of that you've called RPGFan community members "stoners" for no reason whatsoever. Also, "Sorry I don't typify people by their anatomy" is your response to criticism about you typifying people by their anatomy?

You greatly confound me, sir.
You're going to have to provide a quote. I've been saying repeatedly that anatomy is the only difference between male and female, and that people read too much into gender that is irrelevant.
I know people aren't actually reading my posts though. Just making assumptions.

Oh, and I was referring to somebody who has admitted to getting high--it affects mental acumen. But that's just me spreading propaganda. (the first time I said it was an obvious joke relating to the fact Adult Swim has even said in their commercials they aim at a stoner audience).

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General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal
« on: February 27, 2014, 02:21:32 PM »


I liked the part where people disregarded reading comprehension and repeatedly applied hyperbole to exaggerate and project things that weren't implied.

Stoners are fun. Thanks for the interesting conversation, guys. :)

also: having a uterus is one of the traits of being female. I thought this was common knowledge.
 Sorry I don't typify people by their anatomy. 

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General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal
« on: February 27, 2014, 01:17:59 PM »
So I was playing Wild ARMS 2nd Ignition the other day and enjoyed it.
I hope this doesn't spark anything, but I played it just last month and the localization killed it for me. Everything about the game was great, but the dialogue was so stilted and often nonsensical (with people even speaking in the wrong tense sometimes) I had to keep taking breaks from it. It sucks such a great game got such lazy incompetent treatment.



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General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal
« on: February 27, 2014, 12:54:31 PM »
Front Mission Evolved
I'm not getting the hate. Yeah it's not a tactical RPG with a deep story, but it's still a decent mecha action game. A little more freedom and some RPG elements would have been nice though; it's admittedly inferior to Gun Hazard.
Also, it needs more Amy. mmmmmmmm

Feminists have the inherent ability to suck the joy out of everything. People believing they are on a some kind of crusade are just not fun. I do search for things with female leads myself, though. However I don't have any kind of warped criteria of the ultimate gender neutral super woman (The Boss?). I just find them slightly more fun and lively than most of their male counterparts. I play games in order to enjoy myself, not in order to feel justified. And as much I like characters like Kenshiro, it is more about half parodical cheesefest and certainly doesn't make me feel like I'm somehow empowered as a male. Empowering stories are stories about success and effort, a sense of personal growth, which doesn't necessarily mean eliminating your enemies in 700 ways.

Anyway, that's all I have to say about this subject that is discussed at least a million times over. Now waiting for my Tales of Symphonia Chronicles copy to arrive, hopefully by friday or I'll have a boring weekend.

*backs away slowly*
Thanks. I was feeling lonely on my island, touting equality like a crazy person.
Not all feminists are bad--I've been called one myself ;D--but as with any group, those who bark the loudest are overcompensating for feelings of inadequacy they erroniously attribute to physiology. As Nietzsche pointed out, those who feel inferior want to take from those they consider strong.

My friend, who has a PhD in sociology and a utuerus, and minored in feminist studies, has said this about it (verbatim quote ripped from message)

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"The problem is the modern women's movement is dominated by angry spiteful women who hate men either because they are 1) lesbians 2) Bad experiences 3) extremely unattractive. What this means is that the issues they are fighting for have nothing to do with the ones that really matter to getting women ahead in the workplace or in societal hierarchy. Their goal is payback and retribution and punishment. Its not about increasing womens access or power in the workplace , its about making mens share smaller. The goal should be in uplifting women and not tearing everyone else down to their level. Ofcourse this is also what goes on in minority rights groups too."


before it was "hard to find" images of her without her gear
Exactly. Her 8-bit uterus was never displayed in game either. She could have been a gender neutral cyborg (like Motoko Kusanagi). The extent of the importance of her gender was limited to -after the game- seeing that she had long hair and maybe breasts.
If that's enough to identify with a character, okay. Personally, I'm more discerning, and obviously don't stress gender any more than I stress skin color.

*sigh* Great I missed the feminism debate for the most part? Dang it, I got a minor in sociology because I took so many classes to learn more about the various nuances of gender.
I envy you for missing it.
It boils down to:
"sexism is bad"
"sexism is important"
"an (imaginary) uterus doesn't make bad writing worse any more than it makes humans worse."
"You're a misogynist."

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falling asleep while gaming
On one of my insomnia sprees, after like three days without sleep, I nodded off while playing Ys IV and dreamed I was in the game. Complete immersion for what must have been at least a minute; came out of the hallucination and was still playing.



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General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal
« on: February 26, 2014, 11:08:29 PM »
So to say "It's how we're built" is incredibly misogynistic and reifies a lot of negative gender norms about women and their place with men (please don't use an anecdote to reflect greater masses; I'm glad your friend is a "powerful lady" to you, but I don't need to hear that it's innate that she turns into from a "lioness" into a "labradoodle" for her husband).  And you're also giving few options for how we should "do it" otherwise.


Sorry if it came out wrong, but you completely misunderstood that anecdote by projecting a gender bias onto it. My point was that people are inconsistent, not archetypal.  Even strong PEOPLE, male, female, transgender, asexual, etc. have frailties. It has nothing to do with gender.  Badass tough guy types who have penises are just as frail in some respects.  We're built that way.

I'll just say this: gender behavior is determined socially. While hormones affect emotion, the assumption that men and women are a certain way or behave a certain way in relation to each other is negated just by looking at the prevailing reversals taking place in society today. 
The only differenes between male and female are physical; the rest is learned.

Also, I was never discussing the subjective effects of a female badass--I don't deny that importance to female gamers. But I still qualify gender as irrelevent to the games themselves pre-story.  Samus' vagina didn't contribute to the gameplay any more than Mario's penis. Even in plot driven stories, gender can be easily interchanged, because behavior is not correlate to sex. Gender roles are perceived, not innate.

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General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal
« on: February 26, 2014, 09:56:14 PM »
Yes, please save us Klutz.
I apologize for attempting stimulating conversation. :P
I'll revert to meming.


Although you are somewhat right, I'd be careful with those "a friend of a friend I know told me that..."
Thanks for the info. :)
It was just a tidbit I recalled that most people don't seem aware of. I admitted I didn't know the game, and was just discussing prevailing critical biases. People tend to project misunderstand me though. :(

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