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Re: Anime/Manga Journal
« Reply #4845 on: October 09, 2018, 08:05:35 AM »
Also, DOUBLE DECKER! Doug & Kirill is great.
I missed that it was from the Tiger & Bunny folks.

Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken looks so damn good it makes me wish Overlord looked like that =/

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« Reply #4846 on: October 09, 2018, 01:33:53 PM »
Also, DOUBLE DECKER! Doug & Kirill is great.
I missed that it was from the Tiger & Bunny folks.

Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken looks so damn good it makes me wish Overlord looked like that =/
Yeah, I've been enjoying it so far, though I'm behind since I decided I prefer it when these Not NYPD cops are actually speaking English, so I'm sticking to the Simuldub.

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« Reply #4847 on: October 13, 2018, 05:13:49 AM »
After two or three failed attempts to watch the entire show (a true mark of quality), I finally sat down and got through Reconguista in G.

If you've even heard of the show, pretty much every criticism you've heard of it is true- most characters are thinly sketched, it's missing a lot of key information on the motivations for the people and factions in the world, many character actions make no sense, and it has some pretty obvious use of budget saving techniques in the animation (not so much that the show looks bad, but they're noticeable when they're there). I want to say this was the result of Tomino being given only 26 episodes to tell a story rather than the usual 50 or so that his Gundam shows run, but that alone is not the culprit, because there are a lot of episodes where it feels like nothing in the plot moved forward and only maybe 5 minutes of said episodes serve to show characters moving forward, making a lot of it just end up as padding.

Yet there's a part of me that kinda likes it. Tomino's ability to create a unique setting is still there in his old age- I think it says plenty that I wish there was a lot less mecha action in the episodes and a lot more expanding on what the characters and each faction actually wanted out of the conflict. A lot of times it feels like mech fights are in the show as an obligation (and aside from the truly plot-relevant ones, they're pretty tepid anyway- though Tomino's also still pretty good at setting up elaborate battle scenes when it's called for), and by the end there's a sense that all the fighting felt completely pointless (and not in an intentional "war is pointless" message kind of way, but more of a "I don't know what the themes of this show are supposed to be" way). Still, this isn't the only time Tomino's made a show with a unique setting so it's not like Reconguista has some special to offer even in that regard.

Naturally, if someone wants a serving of Tomino's insanity and awkward dialogue, I would obviously recommend rewatching Zeta or Turn A because you'll actually get a plot that makes sense to go along with it.

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« Reply #4848 on: October 14, 2018, 02:27:39 AM »
@Hathen Yeah, Reconguista had...problems. Most of which were just down to poor management, according to Tomino himself - here's an interview with the details: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-04-24/yoshiyuki-tomino-admits-story-problems-in-gundam-reconguista/.87449

Near as I can tell, Tomino was a bit too focused on the Sakuga, the story got confused, and while I don't see it in ANN's truncation of the interview (I couldn't find the translation I read last year), he was kind of ignoring his the episode directors and any staff that were supposed to deal with the characters, so things got confused and you wound up with episodes that didn't really amount to much.

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« Reply #4849 on: October 14, 2018, 04:10:59 AM »
That seems so odd to me, that someone with as much experience as Tomino would head that kind of mismanagement...though he does mention approaching it like an "older style" of show so maybe the culture in production has just changed a lot since he last directed? I mean, Gainer was in like 2003, 12 years is a lot but not one where I think the situation would change that much- though the guy is like 80 years old.

Also them changing course to wrap up the show in a plot-wise satisfactory way really explains why I felt the themes got really muddled by the end- if you focus too much on just solving the plot, you risk dropping the greater themes your work was aiming for.

Quote from: Tomino
I think a lot of people got caught up by the exterior, the action scenes. But the people I'd most want to see it probably didn't. That's the guys in the Cabinet, the nuclear energy guys. And I don't expect them to.

I think this is why I have this strange soft spot for this show. I definitely got the impression that the show really wanted to be about something and a lot of the dialogue danced around these themes. The unique religious and political situation alone in Recoguista offered a lot of story potential to me.

I guess at the end of the day I'll find a weird experimental trainwreck more intriguing than another generic but competently-made entry, something that Gundam often gets.