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General Discussions / Re: Whats the haps?
« Last post by Dincrest on Today at 10:42:35 AM »
And if I am to look at things like the credit crunch crisis, the subprime mortgage fallout, and all that good stuff, I'd venture to guess that a significant percentage of the parent generation wasn't very good at that "business/consumer math" thing either and it's blind leading the blind at best, if there's any teaching being done at all. 

And I look at my late father.  Genius chemical engineer, probably the most brilliant man I'll ever know.  But his financial savvy left much to be desired.  He grew up in a very wealthy family, but through a Murphy's Law domino effect of bad business deals with shady people, the family lost everything.  All of a sudden, he had nothing and he had never been acclimated to being without.  That's why he totally fell victim to the "buy now, pay later" paradigm of the credit crisis, because he could never come to grips with having caviar tastes on a grilled cheese budget. 

I have a naturally common sense financial savvy, but the system is complicated.  Financing a car, mortgaging a home, interest rates on credit cards, making heads/tails of the most sensible insurances to get, financing your higher education... it's challenging stuff for anybody, whether you have a PhD or a GED.  Yeah, we expect "normal" people to get it or be taught that, but how many really are taught it well, if at all?  For every one of me with excellent credit, there are tens of thousands who have piss poor credit and could not get approved for diddly squat.  They were never taught properly if at all.  So having one yearlong business/consumer math class isn't going to hurt anything.  It will actually help. 

Plus, again, special needs students NEED to be taught business/consumer math, especially so that they can advocate for themselves regarding how their SSI is utilized.  Things that come naturally to us neurotypicals do not come naturally to those with developmental delays or whatnot.  So it's more important to teach them financial acumen over y=mx +b.  Mom and dad won't be around forever, so it's important to make sure they have the tools to be independent.  And an important tool is business/consumer math. 

I'm fine with school math requirements having theoretical components like an algebra class and a geometry class, but the third year math requirement should be applied business/consumer math so you don't fail at life.

Three cheers for civics and business/consumer math!
General Discussions / Re: Whats the haps?
« Last post by Tomara on Today at 10:12:13 AM »
^um because not every child is a lucky as you were and don't have parents that give a toss about them or their learning habits.

Exactly. Not to mention that there lots of adults who never had the opportunity/ability to gain that knowledge themselves and thus can't pass it on to their children.

One of the lectures in my arsenal is about personal finances, and if everyone was learning that from their parents, there wouldn't be a demand for lectures like that anime conventions.
General Discussions / Re: Whats the haps?
« Last post by Rucks on Today at 07:16:53 AM »
^um because not every child is a lucky as you were and don't have parents that give a toss about them or their learning habits.

And the vast majority of American college graduates go to public school (and still have insane student loan debt) so I'm not sure where you pulled that junk statistic from.

I often wonder what it's like having a world view that's not even a little bit based on reality ...
General Discussions / Re: Whats the haps?
« Last post by Seultoria on Today at 06:24:44 AM »
Your parents are the ones who should be teaching you good habits about spending, saving, credit cards, etc. I have great credit because I pay off my card every month. I save as much as possible. Even when I got my first part-time job, my dad told me to save half of the paycheck and the rest could be spent on whatever I want.

I don't see the point in having teachers teach a subject like this, especially when most of them probably went to a private college and have $100K in student loans.
I saw Doctor Strange, one of the MCU films I skipped on partly due to never hearing of the character. It has the same annoying cliches found in almost every Marvel movie, including a bad villain and throwaway female characters, but I will say that this movie is visually a lot more interesting than the other MCU films, and the ending action sequence and resolution were especially enjoyable.

Also watched the Power Rangers movie hoping for a movie I could endlessly make fun of, and was disappointed to find what I would consider a competently made movie. Was hoping for a cheesy/campy movie, but it played it more like a typical modern superhero movie. I feel that was a mistake since that puts it in competition with the oversaturated superhero market, and it falls pretty short in that light. It does have one hilarious line I remember though, but it was totally unintentional, along the lines of "You've done awful things, but that doesn't make you an awful person."

War For The Planet Of The Apes. Was hoping to see this in theaters but never got the time to when it was out. Not much to say other than that it was another great entry in a great series, though I personally liked Dawn a bit more. It makes me glad that this series has done pretty well because it shows there's still a way for the more serious and thoughtful scifi movies to do well, though I guess it helped that it's part of one of the most famous scifi IPs around.

Finally I also saw Looper. I honestly found it a bit predictable, but it was definitely one of the better scifi movies I've seen. It's also nice to see Bruce Willis in a relatively recent role where it looks like he actually gives a shit.
General Games / Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
« Last post by Hathen on Today at 05:32:15 AM »
I don't think they'll give the Fates kids their parent's weapons for precisely that reason, coming off such a recent announcement of them trying to keep older units semi-relevant (plus Shiro would fit better as lance infantry anyway). It'd also waste an opportunity for them to come up with some ridiculous Prfs just for them.

Also I got 20 orbs again so I tried pulling and was treated to a third board with no greens. This game really seeks to piss me off sometimes. Anyway got a 4* Shanna.
General Discussions / Re: Whats the haps?
« Last post by Tomara on Today at 04:39:53 AM »
I loved theoretical maths and took advanced maths classes in high school. Since graduation I've used maybe 5% of what I learned in real life, but those classes did break up my school days nicely. I mean, I get to solve fun puzzles and get showered in praise for doing so? Sign me up.

I did follow some subjects that featured much more practical maths though, especially Management & Organisation (which was, ironically, taught by someone named Marx). It focused mostly on running a business, but there was certainly stuff in there that could be used to manage personal finances.

That was at VWO level, by the way. Over half of dutch students are on the VMBO track, and subjects there are a lot more practical. VWO prepares for university, VMBO prepares for life. (Well, actually, VMBO prepares for vocational college, and vocational college courses also feature some life skills courses.) There is HAVO as well, which lies somewhere in the middle of VWO and VMBO. And VMBO, HAVO and VWO all have different tracks as well. It's complicated, but it does leave some room for individuality.

Speaking of struggles, mine was language related. I wasn't all that great at speaking in primary school (I didn't get many chances to do so and my increasingly low self-esteem wasn't helping either). Teachers thought I was slow because of that and put me with children with learning disabilities when we needed to do group work and such. Those kids tended to be really loud and that made me even more quiet. They didn't find out until our first big standardised test that I was reading at a much higher level than average and was ahead in all other subjects as well.
General Games / Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
« Last post by Tomara on Today at 03:10:09 AM »

I sort of hope not, because with the powercreep as of late, he'll be superior to his dad in every way and that's just sad :(
General Discussions / Re: Whats the haps?
« Last post by Electricb7 on Today at 12:04:38 AM »
If I knew that I would need programming skills in the future for writing games or getting any kind of job utilizing computers other than blogging I would have obviously payed more attention or showed more interest in math. But children aren't really interested in numbers and equations that donít do anything. Itís just working your brain but not utilizing the purpose of knowledge witch is to implement it in a meaningful way. And the same goes for engineering. Kids should be supplied with raspberry pie kits or some form of hands on learning material at an early age to better introduce them to the purposes of the applied math. If you show me that I can make Mario or Zelda I'm easily hooked. No need for begging me to do my homework. If you just ask me to do math homework with no foreseeable payoff, stimulation, or reward I'm just going to play JRPG's all day.

I think we have a cultural gap here.  The kind of people who are successful in technical fields generally either like math in its own right, or have the motivation and self-discipline to buckle down and study.  Even if a subject doesn't have any foreseeable application to your future career, bad marks are unpleasant enough.

You didn't know that you needed programming skills to get involved in writing games?  Well, you know now.  You have access to the internet, which has more than enough resources to let you teach yourself programming.  The only thing limiting you is your desire.

I taught myself to program when I was eight.  Not because I wanted to write games, but because as a geekish child I was naturally attracted to electronics.  There was no internet back then to help.  The computer was older than I was, had 16KB* of RAM, and locked up randomly.  Barefoot, in the snow.  Uphill.  Both ways.

*Not a typo.
ehh Its not as simple as drive or desire but I understand what you are saying.
I spend all my free time drawing and learning Photoshop. I put forth he effort but life gets int he way. There are moments when times are hard and you can just shrug stuff off and other times you wont even be able to do the thing you love because shit hits the fan. The later is most of my life.
General Discussions / Re: Whats the haps?
« Last post by Dincrest on Yesterday at 10:42:38 PM »
When I was taking theoretical math classes in high school, my question was always, "When the hell am I ever going to use this in life?"  I would have benefited more from a Business/Consumer math class that taught me about balancing checkbooks, financing the purchase of a car, applying for a mortgage, credit cards/the importance of maintaining good credit, basically applied mathematics that I can apply to the real world.  I wish I had more of that.  Business/Consumer Math is considered a special-ed math course, yet it's something I think all students would benefit from. 

I never had intentions of being an engineer (which is where calculus would have been useful in real life).  Math was always my poorest subject.  I tended to get Cs and Ds in math despite working twice as hard as the other kids (I may have had an undiagnosed learning disability) whereas I could get As in Language Arts and World Language like it was nothing.  Yet, if I was learning math in a way that made more concrete sense to me, that I could apply to the real world and truly hang my hat on, it would have clicked with me.  The only time I ever used a polar equation was in Precalc class and I've never multiplied cosine times theta since then. 

I'm not a big fan of the blanket "one size fits all" curricula.  To say that "ALL children will learn geometry" like many of these blanket initiatives proclaim is ludicrous.  When you have students with traumatic brain injuries who can barely write their own names without tracing them, do you expect them to learn and comprehend 10th grade geometry at a 10th grade pace?  No.  Those students need life skills, and math is practical- a lot of it is going over counting money so they don't get taken advantage of.  And because of their brain trauma, you sometimes have to go over the same lessons 1000 times over because they have limited powers of retention due to their injuries. 
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