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Title: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Aeolus on March 21, 2012, 08:46:41 AM
http://andriasang.com/con0cc/super_sting/

No mention of specifics outside of a fantasy strategy RPG but here's hoping we're looking at a Sting game with IF levels of proliferation (though maybe not as quick to the bargain bin as their usual schlock).
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: cj_iwakura on March 21, 2012, 09:36:08 AM
Well, as long as it uses Sting's art, writing, gameplay, and IF's...
Uh...
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Starmongoose on March 21, 2012, 10:03:02 AM
...money?
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Eusis on March 21, 2012, 10:36:36 AM
Well, as long as it uses Sting's art, writing, gameplay, and IF's...
Uh...

Grunt labor?
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Dice on March 21, 2012, 10:51:44 AM
Well, as long as it uses Sting's art, writing, gameplay, and IF's...
Uh...

.."quality"?
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Eusis on March 21, 2012, 10:53:43 AM
Maybe Idea Factory will maintain the office? Get them food? Make them coffee?
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Dice on March 21, 2012, 11:01:30 AM
Draw 15 year olds with large titties and pink hair.  ...Pictures can't say no.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Zendervai on March 21, 2012, 11:37:47 AM
Well, as Hakuoki showed, Idea Factory isn't actually that bad at story when its what they focus on.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: cj_iwakura on March 21, 2012, 11:53:59 AM
Agreed, but Sting aren't V/N devs(not to my knowledge anyway), so I can't see IF being much help.


It's scary that Siliconera has an extremely devout IF defense force.
In fact, that's the only place I know that has one.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Dice on March 21, 2012, 01:52:05 PM
It's scary that Siliconera has an extremely devout IF defense force.
In fact, that's the only place I know that has one.

Sometimes i'm surprised that Level-5 still does.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: cj_iwakura on March 21, 2012, 02:25:41 PM
It's scary that Siliconera has an extremely devout IF defense force.
In fact, that's the only place I know that has one.

Sometimes i'm surprised that Level-5 still does.

Well, Level-5 still has a pedigree at least. It's falling fast, but hey.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Andrew on March 21, 2012, 05:20:19 PM
St!ng are one of my favourite companies. I feel like this is some kind of sick nightmare. Someone pinch me.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: cj_iwakura on March 21, 2012, 05:45:13 PM
I'm not sure it's new topic worthy(and I bet asking at NeoGAF would get me banned, since they're staunchly anti-Famitsu scans), so I'll ask here: anyone know why Famitsu scans became downright contraband-caliber lately?

It's a bannable offense at NeoGAF, and no news sites post them anymore. How did a magazine get that much pull?
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Eusis on March 21, 2012, 05:53:51 PM
It IS posting something from a publication without permission, and in the case of Neogaf they have a lot of readers from around the world. That, and I wouldn't be surprised if more and more people in Japan started hunting down foreign sites who don't think it really matters since it's not published in their area.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Bill on March 21, 2012, 06:17:17 PM
I'm not sure it's new topic worthy(and I bet asking at NeoGAF would get me banned, since they're staunchly anti-Famitsu scans), so I'll ask here: anyone know why Famitsu scans became downright contraband-caliber lately?

It's a bannable offense at NeoGAF, and no news sites post them anymore. How did a magazine get that much pull?

From what I understand, Famitsu asked NeoGAF administrators (and various news sites - in the past, places like IGN and GameFan would repost Famitsu screenshots) to respect their copyright and prevent scans from being shared.

This isn't a recent trend either. Famitsu and other publications have been cracking down on scans since at least 2003. Didn't stop blogs and message boards from sharing them, but I think people have gradually lost interest in the images.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: cj_iwakura on March 21, 2012, 06:56:55 PM
Well, it's nice that they put the images on their site and all, but quite frankly, I don't want to wait two days just to see images of Elizabeth in play simply because I literally have no access to their magazine.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Ashton on March 21, 2012, 06:58:38 PM
I think I'm gonna be sick.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Chronix112 on March 21, 2012, 09:18:49 PM
well, Idea factory can come up with the ideas... just stay the hell away from the executions. Idea factory comes up with great concepts and ideas. It is just that everything else ends up mediocre or a train wreck.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Aeolus on March 21, 2012, 10:55:05 PM
It's scary that Siliconera has an extremely devout IF defense force.
In fact, that's the only place I know that has one.

Sometimes i'm surprised that Level-5 still does.

Well, Level-5 still has a pedigree at least. It's falling fast, but hey.

On the one hand I do feel like as long as they have somebody competent holding the reins Level-5 is capable of doing some amazing things. On the other hand it feels like when left to their own devices they'll pull crap like this (http://www.siliconera.com/2012/03/18/why-level-5s-girls-rpg-cinderella-life-may-have-flopped/).

As for the topic matter at hand I would like to see Sting take a crack at some of the ideas that IF comes up with and either make them work or make them byzantine as hell (while also still making them work).
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: mjrpgfan on March 22, 2012, 04:51:07 AM
It's scary that Siliconera has an extremely devout IF defense force.
In fact, that's the only place I know that has one.
Gamefaqs does as well. The amount of rage over my review of Agarest War was unbelievable. They can't really hold a candle to FFT/TO and X-Com fans, though.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: insertnamehere on March 26, 2012, 11:54:13 PM
Well, as long as it uses Sting's art, writing, gameplay, and IF's...
Uh...

style? (http://www.siliconera.com/2012/03/26/sting-and-idea-factory-team-up-for-generation-of-chaos-vi/)
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Annubis on March 27, 2012, 12:12:09 AM
The more I think about this and the more it feels completely senseless.
It's like Burger King and Pizza Hut merging.
Sure, they're both in the fast food industry... but they just aren't anything alike =/
Are we going to get burgers or pizza? or burzza?
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Aeolus on March 27, 2012, 12:14:31 AM
Well, as long as it uses Sting's art, writing, gameplay, and IF's...
Uh...

style? (http://www.siliconera.com/2012/03/26/sting-and-idea-factory-team-up-for-generation-of-chaos-vi/)

Welp. This is exactly the opposite of what I was hoping for. At least we don't have to worry about it cluttering up bargain bins.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Yggdrasil on March 27, 2012, 12:16:54 AM
Dear Japanese developers. Let the PSP die already.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Dice on March 27, 2012, 12:55:53 AM
Dear Japanese developers. Let the PSP die already.

New systems are powerful and sccaaaarrryy.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Eusis on March 27, 2012, 01:04:47 AM
Dear Japanese developers. Let the PSP die already.

I'd be more annoyed by this statement if it weren't for the fact it seriously does kill localization potential for a lot of stuff.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Kevadu on March 27, 2012, 03:24:18 AM
Dear Japanese developers. Let the PSP die already.

I like my PSP.

It helps if you learn Japanese...
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: cj_iwakura on March 27, 2012, 10:17:07 AM
Dear Japanese developers. Let the PSP die already.

I'd be more annoyed by this statement if it weren't for the fact it seriously does kill localization potential for a lot of stuff.

Well, either Japan's fault for not moving on, or our fault for not embracing the PSP more.
(If you ask me, SCEA should've stopped marketing the PSP to 'Marcus' and embraced the RPG audience and went after them instead.)
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Cyril on March 27, 2012, 10:44:40 AM
Generation of Chaos is pretty much IF's best SRPG series.  The older ones at least were much better than their newer games, with true strategy and lack of grinding. That's not to say it's a brilliant SRPG, but it's unquestionably better than their recent offerings. 

This game might be better than expected, given this is one series that IF actually has a solid background with.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: cj_iwakura on March 27, 2012, 01:07:11 PM
If you gave me an IF property and told me to make an SRPG, I'd pick Hakuoki.

Sakura Wars style. You know it'd be awesome.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Cyril on March 27, 2012, 03:28:52 PM
Haha, well, there would be lots of death and strategic losses.  Actually, I can't see Hakuoki effectively becoming a SRPG because you'd have to lose 2/3 of the battles in the last few chapters of the game.

Still, if they found a way it might be interesting.  Actually, the very premise would be neat.  Usually SRPGs are about outwitting your foes through tactics, but Hakuoki is all about lost causes, no matter how skilled you are.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: cj_iwakura on March 30, 2012, 04:52:31 PM
GoC6 looks halfway decent. Which, for IF, is pretty close to miraculous.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Zendervai on March 30, 2012, 07:24:34 PM
I'm just wondering who would translate it if it got licensed. Atlus or NISA?
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Eusis on March 30, 2012, 07:28:14 PM
Probably depends on who publishes in Japan. It seems more an IF game developed by Sting though, much like Dungeon Siege 3 is a Gas Powered game developed by Obsidian.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: mjrpgfan on March 30, 2012, 08:46:35 PM
Generation of Chaos is pretty much IF's best SRPG series.  The older ones at least were much better than their newer games, with true strategy and lack of grinding. That's not to say it's a brilliant SRPG, but it's unquestionably better than their recent offerings. 
I wasn't aware of any Generation of Chaos game that played like a traditional SRPG? I wouldn't call it an SRPG, anyway.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Aeolus on April 17, 2012, 09:30:15 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/04/17/stings-generation-of-chaos-wont-be-the-generation-of-chaos-you-played-before/

Details on the gameplay.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Cyril on April 17, 2012, 10:47:11 AM
Generation of Chaos is pretty much IF's best SRPG series.  The older ones at least were much better than their newer games, with true strategy and lack of grinding. That's not to say it's a brilliant SRPG, but it's unquestionably better than their recent offerings.
I wasn't aware of any Generation of Chaos game that played like a traditional SRPG? I wouldn't call it an SRPG, anyway.

You must have a very narrow view of what a SRPG is, then.  

Honestly, that they're changing things up so drastically makes me more cautious. They might accidentally throw out what little good they had.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Annubis on April 17, 2012, 11:07:34 AM
Indeed. Also, this serie is very niche and usually niche gamers don't like change much.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Two Sheds Jackson on April 20, 2012, 09:36:22 PM
srpgs have become very diverse this gen
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Aeolus on April 27, 2012, 06:21:44 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/04/27/generation-of-chaos-6-from-sting-could-be-mistaken-for-a-music-game/

We've got some gameplay videos and it looks like Sting's bringing their usual obtuse game design style for this one. The game's looking like Knights in the Nightmare with IF characters/artwork; the best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Fei on April 27, 2012, 07:02:00 PM
God, dammit!  That's all I will say about the IF hate.

Otherwise, Super Sting sounds super awesome, but who knows what they'll actually do.

I loved Baroque.  I loved Neptunia (figuratively, dammit!!!)

Very funny though... I'm a good sport.  It's good news to me.

Dear Japanese developers. Let the PSP die already.

I bought a Vita for the PSP games, and the fact that the Vita may have a future.  The PSP definitely doesn't.  Wee.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Two Sheds Jackson on April 29, 2012, 10:07:39 AM
the psp is too popular
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Eusis on April 29, 2012, 07:06:48 PM
the psp is too popular

More like it's too disproportionate between regions. If it were reasonably popular for software sales globally then it wouldn't be a big deal beyond wanting the games on a system with more graphical power or whatever. Here though, it's shifted over the years from "I want these on another platform to look nicer" to "I want these on a platform that'll have games localized here!" It really is a shame because almost every PSP announcement comes off more as taunting us with what we can never have, and while I don't doubt a good chunk of games aren't THAT big of a deal it's still frustrating.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Two Sheds Jackson on May 03, 2012, 04:47:38 PM
the psp is too popular

More like it's too disproportionate between regions. If it were reasonably popular for software sales globally then it wouldn't be a big deal beyond wanting the games on a system with more graphical power or whatever. Here though, it's shifted over the years from "I want these on another platform to look nicer" to "I want these on a platform that'll have games localized here!" It really is a shame because almost every PSP announcement comes off more as taunting us with what we can never have, and while I don't doubt a good chunk of games aren't THAT big of a deal it's still frustrating.

The thing is its 7 years old, its basically on its last legs everywhere. Its very common for games not to get localized at the end of a gen
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Kevadu on May 25, 2012, 03:48:25 AM
A whole twelve minutes of gameplay here (http://andriasang.com/con15w/goc6_video/).  It's going through a complete stage.

Honestly I wasn't too excited about this game at first, but I really enjoyed that clip.  Feels very Sting.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Kevadu on September 21, 2012, 12:37:35 AM
Holy crap, this is actually getting localized?!  I had completely written it off.

Of course, this is NISA we're talking about.  They claim they're still working on Black Rock Shooter...
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Alisha on September 21, 2012, 12:53:19 AM
game looks like ass. and after gungnir im weary of anything with stings fingerprint on it that isnt called hexyz force.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Kevadu on September 21, 2012, 02:25:04 AM
To each his/her own, I guess.  Personally I consider Hexyz Force the worst Sting game I've played.

I think this game actually looks pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Alisha on September 21, 2012, 02:35:35 AM
sting games tend to have mechanics that make the game challanging but also overtime become tedius. wich is the reason a stop playing gungnir around mission 21 or so.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: TiamatNM on September 21, 2012, 07:56:56 AM
I'll get this cause sting is involved XD

Both hexyz and gungir were a bit disapointing for me but still good games

Edit: just watched that vid kevadu posted on last page.  Looks cool!
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Aeolus on September 21, 2012, 09:19:27 AM
Holy crap, this is actually getting localized?!  I had completely written it off.

Of course, this is NISA we're talking about.  They claim they're still working on Black Rock Shooter...

To be fair to this claim: http://www.siliconera.com/2012/09/16/black-rock-shooter-the-game-re-appears-in-europes-video-game-rating-boards/
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: cj_iwakura on September 21, 2012, 11:19:42 AM
I can't believe we're getting this and not Eternal Punishment. WTF, Atlus.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Zendervai on September 21, 2012, 12:36:34 PM
This is NISA though. They have a history of supporting the PS2 to a pretty ridiculous degree.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Eusis on September 21, 2012, 02:53:44 PM
I can't believe we're getting this and not Eternal Punishment. WTF, Atlus.
Beyond being NISA and the fact they probably don't want to make EP a PSN exclusive unless they absolutely must, I'd at least wait for P4G to come. Not that I'm OPTIMISTIC at this point, but it really might be an issue of not wanting to announce it before their bigger game is out.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Fadedsun on September 21, 2012, 04:18:21 PM
I can't believe we're getting this and not Eternal Punishment. WTF, Atlus.

I'm confused. Where does Atlus fall in with all this? I don't see their name anywhere.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: cj_iwakura on September 22, 2012, 12:19:57 AM
I can't believe we're getting this and not Eternal Punishment. WTF, Atlus.

I'm confused. Where does Atlus fall in with all this? I don't see their name anywhere.

NISA are still bringing over PSP games. Why can't Atlus bring over the second half of Persona 2?
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Lard on September 22, 2012, 05:25:35 AM
It will probably get a digital release.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Yggdrasil on September 22, 2012, 06:24:57 AM
It will probably get a digital release.

The part with "probably" it what has people worried.
Title: Re: Sting and Idea Factory performs the Fu-Sion-Ha dance and becomes Super Sting
Post by: Fadedsun on September 22, 2012, 09:21:54 AM
I can't believe we're getting this and not Eternal Punishment. WTF, Atlus.

I'm confused. Where does Atlus fall in with all this? I don't see their name anywhere.

NISA are still bringing over PSP games. Why can't Atlus bring over the second half of Persona 2?

Ohhh, I see what you're saying. In the context of the thread, I thought you were pissed that Atlus was bringing over this game and not EP. Got'cha.