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Title: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Eusis on May 29, 2012, 08:07:31 PM
Andriasang link (http://andriasang.com/con173/megaten4_3ds/), site opens tomorrow (http://megaten4.jp/).
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 29, 2012, 08:32:25 PM
3DS, huh.

Well... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O1hM-k3aUY)
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Aurian on May 29, 2012, 08:35:23 PM
Wasn't Strange Journey supposed to be SMT #4? I hope its just not an update/port.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Ashton on May 29, 2012, 08:39:55 PM
Very interested. There's a lot of stuff that'll make me play my 3DS soon, and they're not just ports, either!
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Farron on May 29, 2012, 09:29:20 PM
I was just thinking to myself today how handhelds are my favorite choice for a dungeon crawler type of game. All I truly wish is now that Nintendo can release a 3DS revision with more battery life so we can play Soul Hackers, SMT4 and Bravely Default without worrying about not being tied to an outlet.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: MeshGearFox on May 29, 2012, 09:32:11 PM
What. Soul Hackers 3DS port? Shit if that gets a US announcement I'M LUXURY ITEMING.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Starmongoose on May 29, 2012, 09:33:33 PM
Just threw up in my mouth a little from excitement.

Too much info?

Hey, I might actually have a reason to check out this 3DS thing I have laying around.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on May 29, 2012, 09:43:31 PM
Wasn't Strange Journey supposed to be SMT #4? I hope its just not an update/port.

I was thinking the same thing, but then a friend of mine pointed out that Strange Journey was actually never intended to be IV. I'll see if I can find the quote again.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: kyuusei on May 29, 2012, 09:46:50 PM
I think SJ was originally intended to be SMTIV, but since they never actually CALLED it SMTIV, I guess they'd changed their mind.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Eusis on May 29, 2012, 09:52:12 PM
3DS, huh.

Well... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O1hM-k3aUY)

Man, why'd this crap have to be the first reply?

Anyways, yeah, Strange Journey was considered as SMTIV earlier on, but they abstained from naming it that due to the focus being outside of Tokyo. This being SMT4 proper is a declaration of being based there.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 29, 2012, 09:59:12 PM
Adding a quote:

"Kaneko once admitted that this was meant to be Shin Megami Tensei IV - the only thing keeping it from an "official" numeral was that it takes place in the South Pole as compared to Tokyo, like the older games. The change to a more neutral location was done in hopes to appeal to a worldwide audience, fearing that the concentration on modern day Japan would be off-putting for foreigners. In spite of this, it's still clear that Strange Journey is the true successor to Nocturne that most Megatenists have been waiting for." -- Source: Hardcore Gaming 101

Man, why'd this crap have to be the first reply?

The world doesn't turn around me. Move on.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: lavarock on May 29, 2012, 10:17:57 PM
3DS... why...
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: cj_iwakura on May 29, 2012, 10:23:54 PM
I'm really okay with this.

http://i.imgur.com/sk2r9.jpg
(c/o NeoGAF)

Cause this looks like the real deal. God I'm glad I own a 3DS.

Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Ashton on May 29, 2012, 10:42:48 PM
3DS... why...
Why not?
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Farron on May 29, 2012, 10:51:01 PM
Probably because he doesn't have, like myself, like many people.
If I could choose, honestly I`d have chosen the Vita as there are already a bunch of RPGs coming to it but hey, at least the second screen might be handy to check the map without having to pause all the time.

Back to the game, I really hope it to be 3rd person like Nocturne. Even though I had my gripes with Nocturne I still liked it.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Seultoria on May 29, 2012, 11:06:31 PM
Looks like I'll need a 3DS after all.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Fadedsun on May 29, 2012, 11:13:11 PM
This is the best news ever.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: kyuusei on May 29, 2012, 11:14:04 PM
I don't have a 3DS but this is going to sell me on one. And a purple 3DS just came out, so.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: hell_snake on May 29, 2012, 11:18:50 PM
Since SMT IV is coming out for the 3DS I'm betting on Persona 5 coming out for PS3/360. Atlus has definitely shifted its priorities from the main series to the Persona sub-series, which is understandable, albeit disappointing.

I'm still not sold on either handheld, but this might convince me to finally get a 3DS over a Vita.

I'm really okay with this.

http://i.imgur.com/sk2r9.jpg
(c/o NeoGAF)

Cause this looks like the real deal. God I'm glad I own a 3DS.

Can't tell shit from this, but find it mesmerizing for some reason. Hype.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Lard on May 29, 2012, 11:30:09 PM
Since SMT IV is coming out for the 3DS I'm betting on Persona 5 coming out for PS3/360.

I would guess Vita personally.

Mixed feelings about it on a handheld. I loved Nocturne and would love to see the main series game on a console, but I'm happy the game is getting made.

I'm hoping the 3DS revision comes out by the time this, Etrian Odyssey and Soul Hackers come to North America.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: lavarock on May 29, 2012, 11:57:18 PM
I have very little time for handhelds, only time to play is on flights.

This is why this decision sucks for me, I would much rather play it on the big screen, handheld just doesn't feel as good.

If this come out on the vita then I would buy one just for this (plus I already plan to buy one for P4P), but 3DS... probably not.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on May 30, 2012, 12:10:21 AM
I guess this is the real reason I bought a 3DS last year.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: cj_iwakura on May 30, 2012, 12:42:30 AM
For me the seller was Soul Hackers. This is just an unprecedented bonus.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Yoda on May 30, 2012, 12:56:10 AM
I'll never have a 3DS and this isn't my cup of tea but it makes me happy to see the new handhelds starting to get more support. I hope it rules and you all are happy
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Ashton on May 30, 2012, 01:19:36 AM
Honestly, I wholeheartedly recommend the 3DS, it's pretty cheap now and unless you have some reason for not playing on portable systems, there's not much reason NOT to get one, unless you're holding out for the inevitable redesign
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Yoda on May 30, 2012, 01:25:30 AM
I've bout a DS and a PSP and hardly played them. They're awesome but I just can't get into portable gaming.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Kevadu on May 30, 2012, 01:45:19 AM
I could never get into DS gaming, even though I own one...something about those tiny screens and uncomfortable ergonomics.  I just can't play games for a long time on one.  I don't imagine the 3DS is much different.

The PSP has been good ever since I bought an add-on grip accessory so I can actually hold it comfortably.  It makes the thing huge but I can't play it without it.  Plus you can plug it into a TV.  But in general ergonomics for handhelds suck.

I'm really not thrilled about having to get a 3DS...
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Eusis on May 30, 2012, 01:45:52 AM
The world doesn't turn around me. Move on.

While the first post CAN steer the direction of the thread, I mainly just wished the inevitable "I didn't want this on 3DS!" posts to at least wait awhile, especially when it's on a much desired game in a series that's been settled in on handhelds as of late anyway.

... I do think I may need to get a grip for the 3DS though. It's one of the more uncomfortable ones to hold, and I usually have a higher tolerance there. Hear the Mario Kart steering wheel one is actually really good for that purpose.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Lard on May 30, 2012, 01:53:35 AM
The eventual redesign will hopefully fix the battery life and (reported) uncomfortableness.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 30, 2012, 02:13:31 AM
While the first post CAN steer the direction of the thread, I mainly just wished the inevitable "I didn't want this on 3DS!" posts to at least wait awhile, especially when it's on a much desired game in a series that's been settled in on handhelds as of late anyway.

Nah, this is not neogaf and besides people here in RPFan love the series. I'm actually pretty happy that SMT IV is being made but I wanted something bigger like Nocturne... after Strange Journey though I should have guessed that SMT IV is was going to be made for a handheld.

Still, I do want a 3DS mainly for Souls Hackers and I'll get SMT IV even though is not in the kind of platform I wanted.

Edit: So uhm, with the game announced and all I wonder what ending is going to be canon from SMT: Noctune for this sequel. If they choose to make an entire game around the "True Demon Ending" that would be very interesting, but I doubt that's gonna happen.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: cj_iwakura on May 30, 2012, 11:38:47 AM
While the first post CAN steer the direction of the thread, I mainly just wished the inevitable "I didn't want this on 3DS!" posts to at least wait awhile, especially when it's on a much desired game in a series that's been settled in on handhelds as of late anyway.
Edit: So uhm, with the game announced and all I wonder what ending is going to be canon from SMT: Noctune for this sequel. If they choose to make an entire game around the "True Demon Ending" that would be very interesting, but I doubt that's gonna happen.

That's what everyone's, or at least I'm, hoping for.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: kyuusei on May 30, 2012, 12:38:03 PM
I'd LOVE that.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Farron on May 30, 2012, 12:42:15 PM
Wait a second, the main series is connected ?
Is it just the world (if it iin fact is) or are there some more stuff?
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Zendervai on May 30, 2012, 12:49:05 PM
The first two are very clearly connected while the third sets up the multiverse thing.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: cj_iwakura on May 30, 2012, 02:15:32 PM
The first two are very clearly connected while the third sets up the multiverse thing.

The third is supposed to be another world, but before the Conception, it clearly has Messian and Gaian cults, so there's a 1 & 2 connection.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 30, 2012, 04:20:43 PM
I think I said this before but back when Nocturne was released in Japan Atlus did a DVD showing a timeline of the (at the time) entire franchise. There you can see how SMT and Persona are kinda connected by Shin Megami Tensei: if...

Edit: Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHhXp4rfvmE). This is the timeline I saw, skip to 3:32min in the video.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: hell_snake on May 30, 2012, 07:55:59 PM
Official site opened (http://megaten4.jp/).

These are the 2 pics in the background with the contrast corrected (courtesy of GAF):

http://i.imgur.com/8SeYr.png

http://i.imgur.com/pLjlk.png
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: MeshGearFox on May 30, 2012, 07:59:45 PM
IIRC a lot of the connections between Nocturne and the first two came in the, uh, Maniacs version? 

Also Raidou is apparently in the Persona 1 and 2 universe based on Kuzunoha detective agency and what-what.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Bytor on May 30, 2012, 08:26:51 PM
Guess it's time to buy a 3DS, if they announce a new Tales of game it will definitely sway me over, although I wonder if they will come out with an XL anytime soon, although it's bigger than my old DS the 3DS for some reason looked smaller when I tried one out, weird, maybe the 3D graphics throw me off.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Aurian on May 30, 2012, 09:19:40 PM
Tales of the Abyss? :)
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Lard on May 30, 2012, 11:31:21 PM
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/Gumbydunzeeto/SMT1.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/Gumbydunzeeto/SMT2.jpg)
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: ValendianKnight on June 01, 2012, 11:48:15 PM
Oh eww, 3DS? Well looks like this fan will be passing on this one. Not fair at all, but hopefully it turns out. Good anyways. Was hoping for the next main MegaTen game to be on PS3/360.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Ashton on June 02, 2012, 06:58:53 AM
Honestly, there's nothing the current gen consoles really offers that'll make SMT any better; the games go for stylized art rather than realism and I don't think the current technology would do anything other than smooth out some edges. The PS2 was pretty good at rendering models very close to the original artwork, and we've seen that the handhelds are as powerful as the PS2, if not moreso. Unless you are really just that averse to handhelds, I'd say give this game a chance - it did, after all, JUST get announced.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Dice on June 02, 2012, 10:36:28 AM
I love/wonder how the medieval-esque pic will tie into the game. :D
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Taelus on June 02, 2012, 12:18:02 PM
Honestly, there's nothing the current gen consoles really offers that'll make SMT any better; the games go for stylized art rather than realism and I don't think the current technology would do anything other than smooth out some edges. The PS2 was pretty good at rendering models very close to the original artwork, and we've seen that the handhelds are as powerful as the PS2, if not moreso. Unless you are really just that averse to handhelds, I'd say give this game a chance - it did, after all, JUST get announced.

I think it's a matter of disappintment-- the presentation is SO good in Catherine, I know I was kind of hoping to see a full SMT with that kind of presentation.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: hell_snake on June 02, 2012, 01:33:20 PM
Honestly, there's nothing the current gen consoles really offers that'll make SMT any better; the games go for stylized art rather than realism and I don't think the current technology would do anything other than smooth out some edges. The PS2 was pretty good at rendering models very close to the original artwork, and we've seen that the handhelds are as powerful as the PS2, if not moreso. Unless you are really just that averse to handhelds, I'd say give this game a chance - it did, after all, JUST get announced.

Actually, the PS2 renders were nothing like the artwork. There is big room for improvement presentation-wise.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Eusis on June 02, 2012, 03:30:30 PM
And there WAS a bit in the SMT:N strategy guide where they interviewed Cozy Okada and Kazuma Kaneko I believe, where one of them stated the limits of the PS2 kept them from doing stuff like depicting a battle you could see from the other side of the Vortex World. So, yeah, they could definitely do more, but I don't think they really NEED to. And using Catherine as an example only serves to prove Persona may be better on consoles, mainline MegaTen doesn't have as much need for that, I actually kind of prefer the sprites used by SMT1, 2, and SJ.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 02, 2012, 07:15:20 PM
Somehow with SMT IV being on 3DS it kinda feels that the main series is no longer important anymore with the Persona series getting all the attention with all the ports they did for PSP, the enhanced version of P4 for Vita and P5 being surely released for (at least) PS3. Not to mention all the other stuff they have made like the drama CDs, concerts, etc. Though, I know that's not the case but still the fact that after a decade of Noctune being released I can't help myself but being disappointed with the announcement of the game being on a handheld.

That's like Square Enix announcing a sequel to Vagrant Story directed by Motomu Toriyama.

...well, maybe not that bad but you get the idea.

Also, there's no real reason to believe that SMT IV will bad or anything because is on 3DS. So that's that.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Dice on June 03, 2012, 10:21:38 AM
I'm surprised there has been so little in regards to P5 thus far.  Hopefully after new ShinMeg, we get nuthin' but.  I have nothing against handhelds, but who's gonna hate an HD experience??

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v411/Valkyrie963/500x_realpokemon.jpg)
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Lard on June 03, 2012, 02:59:26 PM
Honestly though, we've had so many games since a *proper* SMT sequel, I'm just glad it's finally coming.

(I'm not dissing the other games - by proper I just mean true, mainline sequel in the SMT series)
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Zendervai on June 03, 2012, 03:32:11 PM
That's one thing I'm happy about with this franchise. Atlus keeps to a consistent level of quality with all their games, and when they don't manage to reach them, they release a sequel that does.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Fadedsun on June 03, 2012, 09:37:32 PM
Honestly, I've appreciated way more handheld games than console games lately. I'm actually kind of happy it's on handheld rather than console. Not that I don't appreciate a full scale game with all the works, but I don't put in nearly as much time on my consoles than my handhelds these days.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: cj_iwakura on June 04, 2012, 12:07:03 PM
The naming of this is gonna be awkward in the US, that's for sure.

Also, I might be crazy for hoping, but maybe they managed to get Cozy Okada back on the team for this... not like he's busy with pachinko games or whatever Gaia's doing.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 04, 2012, 12:45:23 PM
Gaia still exist?
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS.
Post by: cj_iwakura on June 04, 2012, 03:19:27 PM
As far as I know, they do.