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Media => Single-Player RPGs => Topic started by: Yggdrasil on July 04, 2012, 04:44:16 PM

Title: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Yggdrasil on July 04, 2012, 04:44:16 PM
"The RPG classic FINAL FANTASY VII returns to PC, now with brand new online features!

Achievements – Whether you're a seasoned FINAL FANTASY VII veteran or exploring this RPG classic for the very first time, show off your in-game accomplishments and put your gaming skills to the test with 36 brand new achievements to unlock. Share your profile with friends online to find out who is the ultimate FINAL FANTASY fan.

Cloud Saves – If you're away from home or simply using a different computer to play, enjoy FINAL FANTASY VII wherever you are. With cloud save support in FINAL FANTASY VII you can continue your game progress right where you left off (Requires Internet Connection).

Character Booster – Find yourself stuck on a difficult section or lacking the funds to buy that vital Phoenix Down? With the Character Booster you can increase your HP, MP and Gil levels to their maximum, all with the simple click of a button, leaving you to enjoy your adventure.

Optimized for PC – FINAL FANTASY VII has been updated to support the latest hardware and Windows Operating Systems."
-- Source: store.eu.square-enix.com (https://store.eu.square-enix.com/emea_en/pc-windows-download/FINAL-FANTASY-VII.php)

Official website: http://www.finalfantasyviipc.com/en
Announcement Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UwO1xgiOUE&hd=1
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Annubis on July 04, 2012, 05:16:30 PM
I just don't understand the point of doing this =/
There's nothing new in the game at all.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: ZeronHitaro on July 04, 2012, 05:23:07 PM
Basically they just gave people an HQ remake without having to do an ounce of work themselves. Any given popular PC game has a huge mod community; you can pretty much make a safe bet that VII will have someone crack the coding within the first month and before the year's done someone will have put instructions online how to download a patch to make the game's graphics modernized.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Starmongoose on July 04, 2012, 05:23:45 PM
This is...incredibly lame.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Kevadu on July 04, 2012, 05:28:03 PM
I don't understand the complaints.  Is it lame when they offer PS1 classics for the PS3/PSP as well?  Is it lame when GOG or somebody else resurrects old classics?  The thing is, the PC version of FFVII is not only long out of print, it doesn't even work right on modern versions of Windows (it was made for Windows 95 and wasn't the best port in the world...).  So it really isn't an option for most people.  What's wrong with giving more people a chance to play it?

Just because this isn't the HD remake people seem to want (though part of me is convinced that if such a remake were made it would be terrible...) doesn't make it pointless.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Starmongoose on July 04, 2012, 05:31:23 PM
Ok, fair enough, but it's very clear that this isn't what everyone is looking for. Final Fantasy VII is pretty easy to get a hold of.

EDIT: Besides, being released on PSN means you can play it portable or on the big screen. This is neither, it's on the PC, but with really no (important) distinctions.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Lucca on July 04, 2012, 06:25:51 PM
...But alas, it probably won't have a mac version. :( Sadface.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Eusis on July 04, 2012, 06:37:14 PM
My only disappointment is that it's being kept exclusive to SE's store for some dumb reason, I guess now SE wants to take a cue from EA/Ubisoft and run their own crap, except it's in the game where this matters least.

However, I'm very much for making and keeping games accessible, so a no frills port is great so long as it runs perfectly. Should give other FFs this treatment if possible actually.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: DPB on July 04, 2012, 06:42:13 PM
Basically they just gave people an HQ remake without having to do an ounce of work themselves. Any given popular PC game has a huge mod community; you can pretty much make a safe bet that VII will have someone crack the coding within the first month and before the year's done someone will have put instructions online how to download a patch to make the game's graphics modernized.

In this case, I don't think that's very realistic. Character models and battles scenes could be improved, but it would take an inordinate amount of work to redo all the pre-rendered backgrounds, which are all in a resolution several times smaller than modern standards.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Eusis on July 04, 2012, 06:50:13 PM
If Squaresoft (developers period really, especially Japanese ones) were better at reliably keeping older materials I think an HD release just using the original assets would be AMAZING, imagine having those backgrounds in a much higher resolution and everything running at a nice, high framerate, maybe even with widescreen that doesn't resort to cropping. Unfortunately they probably long lost those renders and would have to either do them all over again or fake it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Annubis on July 04, 2012, 07:10:25 PM
I don't understand the complaints. Is it lame when they offer PS1 classics for the PS3/PSP as well?  Is it lame when GOG or somebody else resurrects old classics?

If this was on Steam or GoG I'd acknowledge your argument...

Don't forget that it's still really easy to find a PSX FFVII (Greatest Hits) and it works fine on a PS3.
If not, it's on the PS store too.

Why revive the worst version of the game anyway?
My dad actually bought it when I was young and I still ended up buying the PSX version myself years later.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Taelus on July 04, 2012, 07:13:19 PM
No sale if the game still uses shitty MIDI sequenced versions of all the music.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Yggdrasil on July 04, 2012, 08:05:06 PM
The thing that bother me the most is that Square Enix can make this version the "definitive" one of the game but it seems that they really don't want to put much time and effort in doing so.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Wild Armor on July 05, 2012, 12:20:44 AM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2hds806.gif)

Oh Square Enix
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Yggdrasil on July 05, 2012, 04:36:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8c0_GalK40&hd=1#t=5m55s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8c0_GalK40&hd=1#t=5m55s)

Been hearing the soundtrack again just for the hell of it. I didn't remember that last few minutes of "The Planet's Crisis" were so good.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Maxximum on July 05, 2012, 01:46:11 PM
"Character Booster – Find yourself stuck on a difficult section or lacking the funds to buy that vital Phoenix Down? With the Character Booster you can increase your HP, MP and Gil levels to their maximum, all with the simple click of a button, leaving you to enjoy your adventure."

Oh dear...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Starmongoose on July 05, 2012, 01:47:51 PM
I don't really understand that part, are they just talking about basically cheats?

Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Maxximum on July 05, 2012, 01:49:13 PM
Cheaper to watch a lets play on Youtube if you're going do that.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Yggdrasil on July 05, 2012, 04:02:34 PM
Didn't something similar happen with Tales of Vesperia on 360?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Eusis on July 05, 2012, 04:04:10 PM
Didn't something similar happen with Tales of Vesperia on 360?

You paid for that, and it wasn't a straight up instant win button. REALLY hope you can disable that, I'd rather not have that option dangling there the whole time.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Akanbe- on July 05, 2012, 05:30:12 PM
No sale if the game still uses shitty MIDI sequenced versions of all the music.

Man, my friend had the PC version back in the day.  That music made my ears bleed.  So bad.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Taelus on July 05, 2012, 06:00:30 PM
No sale if the game still uses shitty MIDI sequenced versions of all the music.

Man, my friend had the PC version back in the day.  That music made my ears bleed.  So bad.

Its literally inexcusable if they still have that stuff in there. This already reeks of a lazy cash in, but if they can't even go that far...

FFIX doesn't get enough love.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Kevadu on July 05, 2012, 06:04:08 PM
The problem with MIDI is that the quality varies massively from soundcard to soundcard.  MIDI is just a set of instructions, and it relies on the sound samples stored on the actual soundcard as a base.  But since MIDI was kind of on its way out already (as a music storage format, anyway) when FFVII PC came out it was usually the first thing any cheap soundcard would skimp on, and you could end up with something that sounded quite terrible.  But on a good soundcard it really wasn't bad.  There was also a completely software-based solution that processed the MIDI stream with the CPU.  It was actually pretty CPU-intensive (at least for the time...shouldn't be an issue on any modern computer) so not everyone used it but it didn't sound bad at all.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Taelus on July 05, 2012, 06:06:15 PM
True, but it wasn't what the music was supposed to sound like, and that's where my issue is.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: DPB on July 05, 2012, 06:47:35 PM
I'd be surprised if it still uses MIDI, if it does it'll sound even worse now than it did in 1998. Windows MIDI is awful, it has no reverb whatsoever so any music played back by it sounds completely flat, and the softsynth that came with the game doesn't work on anything newer than Windows 98.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Yggdrasil on July 05, 2012, 07:30:40 PM
FFIX doesn't get enough love.

I'm kinda scared when SE touches FFIX again actually. Knowing them they can end up making a sequel for that game and ruin the little magic that the franchise has nowadays, same goes for FFVI.

Oh yeah, I found this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhD8iCf5QyY) and I think you might enjoy it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Starmongoose on July 05, 2012, 07:46:00 PM
Man FFIX had some great music, thanks for sharing Ygg's.

ROSE OF MAY

ROSE OF MAY.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Taelus on July 05, 2012, 07:53:42 PM
FFIX doesn't get enough love.

I'm kinda scared when SE touches FFIX again actually. Knowing them they can end up making a sequel for that game and ruin the little magic that the franchise has nowadays, same goes for FFVI.

Oh yeah, I found this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhD8iCf5QyY) and I think you might enjoy it.

OH MY GOD HELLO NEW BEST FRIEND. This is so awesome.

I really, really love FFIX. It captured everything I loved about the series but managed to get in a more Tales-style cast of characters, what with all the humor. Humor is more effective with drama, and drama is more effective with humor, and FFIX understood that. Plus... it has Zidane. I mean come on. You could combine the casts of FF7, 8, 10, 12, and 13, and still they wouldn't have as much charm and personality as FFIX's cast. /clearbias

6 and 9 (and Tactics) are without a doubt the FF's with the best cast of characters, I think.

Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Yggdrasil on July 05, 2012, 11:02:29 PM
Heh. Well I do like the characters in FFIX a lot, they are not annoying and everyone is very likeable.

Man FFIX had some great music, thanks for sharing Ygg's.

My pleasure. ∩(︶▽︶)∩
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Raze on July 06, 2012, 12:17:39 AM
 I love Eiko's theme. She stole Beatrix's spot on the team and what should have been Dagger's spells, but I love her theme.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Aeolus on July 07, 2012, 05:15:42 AM
My only regret with FFIX was the lack of further combination skills like Steiner's/Vivi's Magic Blade attacks (well, that and the hideously slow loading, the minute long combat camera panning shenanigans, the fourth disk lockdown, Tetra Master, Trance shenanigans and its similarities to that particular show featuring monkey boys getting similar powerups, the lack of development for Armarant, and Freya, and a lack of playable Beatrix I guess). I mean, you could've had Garnet and Eiko pull off dual summons like they did for Alexander, or Zidane and Armarant pull off some sort of rivalry combo, or Freya and Quina could umm, well Freya could always stir the Gourmad's Trance pot.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Starmongoose on July 07, 2012, 10:02:40 AM
Freya had at least the storyline with Sir Fratley, it wasn't much and really didn't get mentioned at all after Cleyra, but it was something. Amarant was just...yeah,  got nothing.

Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Akanbe- on July 07, 2012, 12:33:11 PM
My only regret with FFIX was the lack of further combination skills like Steiner's/Vivi's Magic Blade attacks (well, that and the hideously slow loading, the minute long combat camera panning shenanigans,

Eh, I played it to the end again last year and didn't find the loading times to be that bad.  It might not be as snappy as current gen, but I don't recall it being frustrating/annoying.

I forced myself to use Freya, and she was pretty terrible iirc.  Still was fun though.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Yggdrasil on July 07, 2012, 03:42:07 PM
Amarant was just...yeah,  got nothing.

Amarant has a backstory but mainly the player sees him being confused by Zidane's attitude.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Aeolus on July 07, 2012, 06:23:24 PM
Amarant was just...yeah,  got nothing.

Amarant has a backstory but mainly the player sees him being confused by Zidane's attitude.

That's mostly because his back story consists almost entirely of that one scene where he's an unlucky guard who gets framed by Zidane. It was his sole character trait that defined him as a brooding loner who's struggling to understand his sworn rival's strength and way of life so that he may defeat him at a later date.

Hell, to continue with the DBZ allusions, Amarant was basically the Piccolo to Zidane's Goku (right down to the green skin). Disgruntled rival who's looking for a rematch but is thwarted by the reasons of lacking main character status and getting replaced by a newer/shinier rival/buttmonkey.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Annubis on May 06, 2013, 10:12:03 AM
Apparently, the download for the game is only valid for 30 days. If you didn't keep the installer, you'd have to buy it again.

http://na.square-enix.com/go/thread/view/139347/29458897/I_cant_download_Final_Fantasy_30_days_after_buying_it_WTF!?pg=1 (http://na.square-enix.com/go/thread/view/139347/29458897/I_cant_download_Final_Fantasy_30_days_after_buying_it_WTF!?pg=1)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Fadedsun on May 06, 2013, 01:46:22 PM
Character booster? This game was never difficult.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Sagacious-T on May 06, 2013, 09:55:12 PM
30 day download limit is laughable. They might as well call the game a rental.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Zendervai on May 06, 2013, 11:33:09 PM
As long as you keep the installer and don't uninstall it, you keep it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Sagacious-T on May 07, 2013, 01:51:00 AM
As long as you keep the installer and don't uninstall it, you keep it.


In the age of cloud servers and digital property, that's dumb.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII announced for PC, SE Store exclusive with new online features
Post by: Eusis on May 07, 2013, 02:54:46 AM
As long as you keep the installer and don't uninstall it, you keep it.


In the age of cloud servers and digital property, that's dumb.

Ditto; it's small consolation, and it just shows how terrible Digital River continues to be (and how stupid companies tend to be by sticking with them ANYWAY.)