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Title: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: LINK398 on February 14, 2013, 10:41:20 PM
Been thinking about making a few threads like this for a while. Basically taking two games that have either similar themes, gameplay mechanics, storylines or any other similarity that might make someone think of both of them. For this thread I'm comparing the top two games. Even though their gameplay is very different from one another they have similar themes and both have many side quests. Discuss which game you like better and why maybe give some reasons. I'll see how this thread works out otherwise I'll just scrap it and won't make any more game comparisons.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Taelus on February 14, 2013, 10:50:28 PM
Skies of Arcadia. Better music, way better characters, better-executed concept, and it doesn't fall to complete shit in the last third of the game.

That said, I still enjoyed Rogue Galaxy.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Agent D. on February 14, 2013, 10:57:39 PM
Skies of Arcadia by far.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Cyril on February 14, 2013, 11:32:37 PM
Yeah, I have to third SoA.  For its time it was pretty mind-blowing.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Eusis on February 14, 2013, 11:35:46 PM
Skies of Arcadia annoyed me less with the story (though with a 7 year difference I undoubtedly changed a lot in my standards) and was more interesting to explore, admittedly it was cutting edge, but Rogue Galaxy as I recall went for dungeon design that may as well have been randomized.

But I played way more of Skies of Arcadia, and way further back, so I'm not int he best position to judge really.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Klyde Chroma on February 14, 2013, 11:52:01 PM
ahhhhhhhh two freakin' awesome games I have yet to get to.... i haven't come across a good deal on a copy of SoA yet.... how "must play" is this game??.... I mean I've read a great deal about it... but from someone who has played it.... is it good in a timeless (suikoden 2) sort of way.... or is this a case of "ahead of its time but not something you'd care to visit again at present..."??? i've got enough rpg's to keep me busy until 2020 at this point but I've seen this title brought up so many times I can't help but wonder....
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Taelus on February 14, 2013, 11:56:44 PM
ahhhhhhhh two freakin' awesome games I have yet to get to.... i haven't come across a good deal on a copy of SoA yet.... how "must play" is this game??.... I mean I've read a great deal about it... but from someone who has played it.... is it good in a timeless (suikoden 2) sort of way.... or is this a case of "ahead of its time but not something you'd care to visit again at present..."??? i've got enough rpg's to keep me busy until 2020 at this point but I've seen this title brought up so many times I can't help but wonder....

Timeless.

It sure would be great if an upcoming RPGFan feature included stuff from Skies of Arcadia! Gosh!
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Klyde Chroma on February 14, 2013, 11:59:02 PM
there is one going off on ebay for roughly 50.... maybe i should jump on it...
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Agent D. on February 15, 2013, 12:01:09 AM
If you stopped and played Skies of Arcadia, Klyde, you'd be quite pleased. The game was incredibly well done.

Get Legends, btw, as it's got far more content to offer.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Klyde Chroma on February 15, 2013, 12:05:45 AM
If you stopped and played Skies of Arcadia, Klyde, you'd be quite pleased. The game was incredibly well done.

Get Legends, btw, as it's got far more content to offer.

ok between taelus and now D as well... i'm totally sold.... that auction is mine!!
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Taelus on February 15, 2013, 12:12:10 AM
If you stopped and played Skies of Arcadia, Klyde, you'd be quite pleased. The game was incredibly well done.

Get Legends, btw, as it's got far more content to offer.

More content, but since it was squished to fit on one disc, the music quality isn't as good. Just as an FYI.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Eusis on February 15, 2013, 12:17:27 AM
If other RPGs followed a world design like Skies of Arcadia did then it might've been a "you had to be there" game, but only a few, namely Dragon Quest VIII, really did that. So I'd say it's worth going back to, it's charming and likable beyond that anyway.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Klyde Chroma on February 15, 2013, 01:17:54 AM
Yipeeee!!!! And its Klyde for the win folks! Case, Manual and game in very good condition for 47 bucks!! (plus 4 shipping) I feel good about that....
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Aeolus on February 15, 2013, 01:22:41 AM
Definitely SoA. No question.

Its like Wind Waker except as a full on RPG and the game I wished Skyward Sword was more like.

Rouge (fuck it, I'm not spelling it correctly) Galaxy meanwhile, was ultimately Level 5's take of the obligatory JRPG Star Wars knockoff and little else. Nice idea, poor execution.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Dice on February 15, 2013, 01:25:59 AM
there is one going off on ebay for roughly 50.... maybe i should jump on it...

I saw a $60 for a used on Amazon... still I wanna grab it.

I heard they're making an HD one.... why no new info?????  WHAT A TEASE D:

Obv.  Skies for sure, even if the game gets repetitive and too easy by the end (You can easily buy full HP recovering items by the end of the game).

Now, since we ALL know Skies: FEENA or AIKA? 
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Cyril on February 15, 2013, 01:39:23 AM
Aika, definitely. She's one of the most likeable characters of her archetype that I know.  Fina is just...dry.  Cupil is adorable, though.

And yeah, there have been rumors of a HD re-release of Skies for about 6 months now, since they put the name back in for copyright.  There hasn't been any updates as far as I know, but oh man, I want it badly.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Kevadu on February 15, 2013, 03:08:07 AM
Yeah, there have been a lot of rumours but nothing substantial.  I would buy an HD Skies of Arcadia in a heartbeat...

But screw Rogue Galaxy.  I thought that game was terrible.  Terrible gameplay, terrible story, terrible characters.  I find its popularity a little baffling.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Eusis on February 15, 2013, 04:04:53 AM
I find its popularity a little baffling.

It's popular?

... Or maybe you mean the fact it has fans at all?
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Lard on February 15, 2013, 08:29:13 AM
ok between taelus and now D as well... i'm totally sold.... that auction is mine!!

I'll third this.
Played the SOA Legends and loved it. Definitely worth playing through if you haven't before.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Monsoon on February 15, 2013, 09:56:26 AM
The only things RG has on SoA is some decent weapon / item / skill crafting systems and action-y combat (which might not even be as solid as SoA's, which is turn-based but often excellent). SoA has WAY better environments (especially its awesome world map), characters, story, and audio. Both games have some pretty good side quests and a cartoon aesthetic hat holds up.

Yeah, I really enjoy both games (I play layer Rogue Galaxy last year and liked it just fine; I played SoA for the first time in high school, at least 10 years ago), but Skies of Arcadia is better.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Zendervai on February 15, 2013, 11:20:47 AM
Skies of Arcadia's only real flaw is the battle system. Near the end of the game, battles take forever.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Dice on February 15, 2013, 11:59:23 AM
Skies of Arcadia's only real flaw is the battle system. Near the end of the game, battles take forever.

DELTA SHIELD.

Build Mood Points

DELTA SHIELD.

Build Moon Points

BACK OFF --- ALPHA STOOOORRRMMMMMMMMM
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Bytor on February 15, 2013, 12:23:32 PM
I find its popularity a little baffling.

It's popular?

... Or maybe you mean the fact it has fans at all?

...hides in the corner quietly... I liked Rogue Galaxy
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Blace on February 15, 2013, 12:53:08 PM
I find its popularity a little baffling.

It's popular?

... Or maybe you mean the fact it has fans at all?

...hides in the corner quietly... I liked Rogue Galaxy

I have unfortunately never played Skies of Arcadia, but I did like Rogue Galaxy. Nothing amazing obviously, but I found it a solid and worthwhile RPG.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Dice on February 15, 2013, 12:57:31 PM
Eugh...sorry Bytor. 

Rogue Galaxy was one of those rare games I played that I knew I didn't and wouldn't like in the first ten minutes.  I played it for a few hours, but the opinion didn't change.  I got this with Dragon Quest games too.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Agent D. on February 15, 2013, 01:07:34 PM
Rogue galaxy isn't a bad game at all, honestly, just forgettable. Honestly, I liked the playthrough I did for it, and one day I may go back for a second run. Skies is just a vastly better game, in every aspect. Arguably some of the best battle music in an rpg, and the sidequests are a plenty. You'll be at the game for a good long time.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Taelus on February 15, 2013, 01:13:01 PM
Yeah, I really enjoyed Rogue Galaxy's concept and graphics. It's just that like all Level 5 games, it had way too much filler and fell apart at the end. And the combat was a fun, if fluffy, action RPG. It was a solid 7-ish game for me, whereas SoA would be a 9.995 game for me. It's probably my favorite RPG on the Dreamcast.

EDIT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZA-2PkQMsM Rogue Galaxy's battle theme is awesome though.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Agent D. on February 15, 2013, 01:16:42 PM
Skies of Arcadia's only real flaw is the battle system. Near the end of the game, battles take forever.

DELTA SHIELD.

Build Mood Points

DELTA SHIELD.

Build Moon Points

BACK OFF --- ALPHA STOOOORRRMMMMMMMMM
Pff, everyone knows that the fights consisted of...

Enrique: Justice shield
Everyone else: Focus

(4-5 rounds later)

BLUE ROGUES....ATTACK!
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: insertnamehere on February 15, 2013, 01:17:05 PM
Skies of Arcadia's only real flaw is the battle system. Near the end of the game, battles take forever.

Ship battles or on foot?
Non-ship battles are broken and easy as crap after getting Prophecy and maybe Blue Rogues.
Never got much into Rogue Galaxy but it has a fun battle sytstem though I have a soft spot for Dark Cloud's battles.
edit: gotta love all that SOA influence in that youtube link in comments and that avatar.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: DPB on February 15, 2013, 02:12:02 PM
I really liked Skies of Arcadia, but the encounter rate was excessive on the world map, even though it was absolutely fine in the dungeons. It took some of the shine off the fun of exploration when you were getting into the same battles over and over again. I haven't played the Gamecube version, apparently the encounter rate is lower, but from what I've heard the soundtrack wasn't converted perfectly, the Dreamcast sounds better.

I'd have no problem with random encounters in RPGs if only they followed Panzer Dragoon Saga's example - once you've outleveled an area encounters start to disappear completely, instead of wasting your time with pointlessly easy battles.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Taelus on February 15, 2013, 02:34:06 PM
I really liked Skies of Arcadia, but the encounter rate was excessive on the world map, even though it was absolutely fine in the dungeons. It took some of the shine off the fun of exploration when you were getting into the same battles over and over again. I haven't played the Gamecube version, apparently the encounter rate is lower, but from what I've heard the soundtrack wasn't converted perfectly, the Dreamcast sounds better.

I'd have no problem with random encounters in RPGs if only they followed Panzer Dragoon Saga's example - once you've outleveled an area encounters start to disappear completely, instead of wasting your time with pointlessly easy battles.

Yeah, you've heard right. They overcompressed the music to fit on one GC disc, and so it sounds flatter and less awesome. It's especially noticable during the best part of the on-foot battle theme :(
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Cyril on February 15, 2013, 02:40:09 PM
On the subject of music, SoA had brilliant dynamic themes, where they changed based on your location on the map and your progress in a boss battle.

I really wish more RPGs would do that.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Taelus on February 15, 2013, 02:47:36 PM
On the subject of music, SoA had brilliant dynamic themes, where they changed based on your location on the map and your progress in a boss battle.

I really wish more RPGs would do that.

Gee, I sure hope there's an upcoming RPGFan feature that addresses this exact topic! :)

But yeah, it was awesome flying past Ixa'Taka and hearing the drums, etc. Pure awesome.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Akito on February 15, 2013, 05:36:40 PM
Skies all the way. The music, characters, and game-play are superior.

I still remember being creeped out by the dark rift... *shudder*
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: beLIEve? on February 15, 2013, 08:48:27 PM
I had pretty good time with rogue galaxy nothing stands out as bad really. The basic tropes are about as far as character development ever got but it didn't bother me.

SoA is a game I've heard so much good about that I was going to buy a game cube copy when I got my wii, I haven't cause I've plenty to play at the moment. Plus when I heard the hd rumor I was willing to wait. I'd love to see that on psn. It's on my list of games to buy either way.
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: LINK398 on February 17, 2013, 11:27:18 PM
I myself do own both games but unfortunately haven't gotten very far in either of them. I can't really judge the games but I would have to say I like Rogue Galaxy better so far just based on gameplay
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Taelus on February 25, 2013, 10:46:32 AM
New music podcast up today, featuring Skies of Arcadia music. I thought it would be apropos of this topic :)
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: SonicDeathMonkey on February 26, 2013, 01:08:30 PM
If you stopped and played Skies of Arcadia, Klyde, you'd be quite pleased. The game was incredibly well done.

Get Legends, btw, as it's got far more content to offer.

More content, but since it was squished to fit on one disc, the music quality isn't as good. Just as an FYI.

And let's not forget Pinta Quest.
Actually made it really easy for me to buy new stuff because I'd bring my VMU to school. By the time I got home I'd have tons of stuff to sell. Never did get that last Cham, though...
Title: Re: Skies of Arcadia Legends vs. Rogue Galaxy
Post by: Agent D. on February 27, 2013, 05:35:21 PM
You can get the last cham in Legends by completing the moonfish sidequest. Plus, Super Vigoro secret boss is awesome.