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Title: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Britton on February 16, 2013, 10:08:10 PM
Been hearing nothing but good things about these games, decided to pick up this one for the Vita. I hope it's good... can't tell because for some damn reason when it asks in the beginning to type in your last name, it does nothing. Anyone run across this problem?
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Britton on February 16, 2013, 10:22:17 PM
I am an idiot. lol
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Eusis on February 16, 2013, 10:38:01 PM
... There really wasn't a topic for this before? Uhh, weird. I guess there were just posts in the general MegaTen thread.

Well, here we go, about 3 months late!
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Britton on February 16, 2013, 10:58:03 PM
Nope. I know how weird you guys can get with already posted material and I couldn't believe there wasn't a topic already either. I searched all fancy-like numerous times too, so just posted a new one. lol
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Tooker on February 16, 2013, 11:02:53 PM
Weird?!  How can you say such a thing? ;)

Well hey, it's an amazing game.  Or, at least I think so.  The Vita version is my first, too.  And I thought "will it really be good, or has it been overhyped?"  Same way I felt about Casablanca before I watched it.  Well, in both cases, I was not disappointed. Hope you love it too.
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Taelus on February 17, 2013, 12:00:32 AM
I really need to play it.
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Kevadu on February 17, 2013, 12:02:50 AM
Bought the game at launch and still haven't touched it, heh.  But I already played the PS2 version and my backlog is something else...I don't have a 100 hours to sink into a game I already played once, no matter how good it is...
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Cyril on February 17, 2013, 12:44:03 AM
I started it recently, but...well, I'm not ready to replay P4 yet after two relatively recent full playthroughs of the PS2 version, so I only have about 10 hours into it and am progressing slowly.

My (relatively shallow) thoughts so far:
Honestly, it was the first game that really showed me the graphical capabilities of the Vita.  That is, it's bright and much smoother than I was expecting after P3P.  I can't wait to see how the handheld looks when it's pushed.
I don't like the new battle theme, but fortunately Reach Out to the Truth plays when you get a surprise attack.
I adore the costume changing at will. I wish they had this in the original.
Marie is absolutely, utterly obnoxious and I can't stand her.
A very nice touch was the addition of new NPCs running around in background scenes.  For example, when you're walking to school you'll often see your schoolmate S.Links (think Naoki, Ai) running by, while the generic NPCs talk or your friends chat with you like they did in the original.
The new Shuffle Time is really easily broken in just about every possible way.  However, it also lets you use older Personas that you would have discarded.  You can make a godly (no pun intended) Izanagi if you'd like, with a little time and effort.

And, most important of all:
Thank you, thank you, thank you for letting me choose inheritable skills.  Now I won't have to shuffle for an hour to get my invincible Helel.
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Britton on February 17, 2013, 12:23:15 PM
Yeah, thbis game looks better than most PS3 games. In the beginning there I just walked around the town looking at the background scenery. Sooo much detail.
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Britton on February 17, 2013, 01:30:51 PM
I wish there were more RPG's at least partially set in the real/modern world like this. I think the first time I experienced it was Earthbound and it was a nice break from the usual fantasy setting (which I love, but it's overused). Ni No Kuni has some modern world interaction as does this. This game is blowing my mind. Don't wanna put it down.
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Alisha on February 17, 2013, 02:04:24 PM
i bought it at launch but just cant find the motivation to play it. i beat it twice on ps2 so yeah. the same thing happend with p3p but the fem mc gave me some motivation to play it a bit.
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Britton on February 17, 2013, 11:02:54 PM
I'm amazed at the amount of people that bought it, but don't wanna play it because they played the old version already. lol
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Annubis on February 17, 2013, 11:17:54 PM
Well, I can see buying it now while it's easy to purchase if you know you'll want to play it later.
Some Persona games are hell to find after a couple of months =/
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Ranadiel on February 18, 2013, 06:17:05 AM
Add me to the list of people who have bought it and have yet to play it. I do intend to play it......but I need to buy a Vita first. x_x Also once I own a Vita, it will be fairly low on my backlog list since I have beaten it twice so it will take a a while until I get to it. I just got it at release for the Golden Edition bonuses.
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Taelus on February 18, 2013, 07:56:10 AM
Finally picked this up last night. I will probably put Fire Emblem aside to play it, since I've only ever played the first dungeon in P4G and have heard great things about the story.
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Bleaker on February 20, 2013, 05:41:11 PM
I just finished the Underground Lair or whatever, and I'm enjoying it more than I did on the PS2. However, I still stand by my opinion that Persona 3 is better. Maybe not gameplay wise in a sense. I loved the battle system of Persona 3, even though it could be annoying. Persona 4's doesn't have anything new, and even makes it more generic with manual selection of teammate commands.

I also thing Persona 4 has some serious problems with tone. I can't tell what its trying to go for. Is it going for friendship butterfly rainbows? Or is it going for mystery intrigue danger? Persona 3 was able to combine the darkness of the plot, and the characters did their best to make light of it. They still constantly doubted themselves. Persona 4, they doubt their mission for a minute, and then you say, WE CAN DO IT. Then they snap right out of it.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the characters of Persona 4, and that hospital scene near the end. Those hospital scenes are the first time I actually felt any real danger. Persona 4 is a great game, and I'm glad everyone enjoys it. I just don't feel it deserved to overshadow Persona 3. Hell I think the game has overshadowed a lot of SMT besides the other great Persona games.
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: DrGonzo on February 22, 2013, 07:32:54 PM
Persona 4 being my favorite RPG ever, this one is an improvement by far. Just because of the extra content Atlus put into the game was really wonderful. Is it just me or does Atlus know how to write cute, awesome girl characters with each game like Marie? :P
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Cyril on February 23, 2013, 08:28:51 PM
Some non-spoiler thoughts on changed content for previous players now that I've hit November.

- Some of the new scenes are clever (the "reenactment of the birth of Venus"), others are pretty horrible (the entire Junes band section).
- I'm pleasantly surprised at how many new scenes or changed scenes there are.  Some of the changes are small, but one or two were very important.
- Nope, even at Rank 10 Marie still isn't likeable or interesting.  This coming from someone who almost always likes Tsundere characters.
- Dungeons are easier now, due to having earlier access to Invigorate-type skills (ie, you can get Invigorate 2 below level 20). You can start buying Mage's Marks once you have access to the Sauna. This is compounded by the new Shuffle Time, which lets you upgrade your abilities via picking the Magician Arcana.  That Invigorate 2 can turn into Invigorate 3 without much effort, and you can get early access to many spells.
- The difficulty balance is still off, unfortunately.  The most difficult parts of the game are the first two dungeons and everything is downhill from there.  Like the above, this is compounded by new features.  Your non-MCs are stronger in Golden and have new abilities, Yukiko gets the Mudoon-series, for example, making battles easier than ever before.
- There's a ton more to do than in vanilla.  A first-run max S.Link is much pickier than before, especially if you want to do everything.
- While not a huge deal, they've rearranged Arcana of certain Personae because they added Jester and Aeon.  This threw me off a few times, so just watch out for it.
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: DrGonzo on February 23, 2013, 08:52:54 PM
Some non-spoiler thoughts on changed content for previous players now that I've hit November.

- Some of the new scenes are clever (the "reenactment of the birth of Venus"), others are pretty horrible (the entire Junes band section).
- I'm pleasantly surprised at how many new scenes or changed scenes there are.  Some of the changes are small, but one or two were very important.
- Nope, even at Rank 10 Marie still isn't likeable or interesting.  This coming from someone who almost always likes Tsundere characters.
- Dungeons are easier now, due to having earlier access to Invigorate-type skills (ie, you can get Invigorate 2 below level 20). You can start buying Mage's Marks once you have access to the Sauna. This is compounded by the new Shuffle Time, which lets you upgrade your abilities via picking the Magician Arcana.  That Invigorate 2 can turn into Invigorate 3 without much effort, and you can get early access to many spells.
- The difficulty balance is still off, unfortunately.  The most difficult parts of the game are the first two dungeons and everything is downhill from there.  Like the above, this is compounded by new features.  Your non-MCs are stronger in Golden and have new abilities, Yukiko gets the Mudoon-series, for example, making battles easier than ever before.
- There's a ton more to do than in vanilla.  A first-run max S.Link is much pickier than before, especially if you want to do everything.
- While not a huge deal, they've rearranged Arcana of certain Personae because they added Jester and Aeon.  This threw me off a few times, so just watch out for it.
- I thought the band section was pretty funny.
-I know you're only on November, but Marie's story gets really great later on.
-I actually think the Shuffle Time is much better than the original one because it makes customizing your Persona more non-linear than in the original.
-It really depends on what difficulty you're playing on. I played on Very Hard mode and it was quite challenging. I think the reason they did this was so that people who have played Persona 4 to death, like me, don't have to go through the excessive grinding in order to get the skills we want on a specific Persona level.
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Taelus on February 23, 2013, 09:04:47 PM
I never played the original P4, and this game has me 100% in its hooks. Playing in very hard to offset what I hear is a reduced level of difficulty due to shuffle time being different (?), and so far I'm finding it just the right level of challenge. Also, the cast is fucking awesome, and there is so much to do.

Rob said on the podcast once that this series is like chocolate and peanut butter. He's right.
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Cyril on February 23, 2013, 09:06:43 PM
I like the new Shuffle Time a lot, but it makes the game much easier because it's so easy to abuse. But yes, it's nice because it lets you build up your favorite Personae to be good and long-lasting. I know I'm a fan of some of the weaker Persona and I plan on building them up for end-game use, despite lacking the full, easy invincibility of a Persona like Helel.

I know what happens with Marie, and I doubt it will make me like her any more.  She's just too much of, er, a fanfiction character for me to like her. And I mean this literally, as I have seen fanfiction characters identical to her, with almost the exact same thing happening to their character.

And I play on Hard. I think the lack of difficulty is because I've played the original multiple times now compounded by the new additions. It will definitely be noticeable for those who have experience with the game. Given I'm going for the new ending on my first run, I'll try Very Hard on my NG+. Maybe that will satisfy me a bit more.
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Tooker on February 23, 2013, 09:40:54 PM
I never played the original P4

So glad to know I wasn't the only one. :)
Title: Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita.
Post by: Taelus on February 23, 2013, 09:42:17 PM
I watched my best buddy play the first two dungeons, but I never put my hands on it. I've gotten to the second stratum (or whatever they're c alled in P3) about four times in P3. Maybe after I finish P4, I'll go back to P3P!