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Title: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Dincrest on March 17, 2013, 01:50:02 PM
With Pokemon X and Y on the horizon and this being the first time I've actually been kinda excited about a Pokemon game (only one I've played was Crystal, and I enjoyed the hell out of it), I figured I'd pose the classic question.  What criteria do you use when choosing a starter pokemon? 

Is there a particular type that you go for by default?  For example, do you always pick the water type?  Or do you pick different types in different games?  Do you choose the type that's opposite of the popular choice?  Why do you pick the type you do?   

Do you go by looks?  Do you pick the cutest one?  The most badass looking one?  Or the "dorkiest" looking one, because you feel bad about it being picked last and could probably beat the popular choice in a battle?  Do you use teh Internetz to see the leaked evolutions and pick based on that?  (Tepig was adorable, but his pignite and emboar evolutions looked cheesy; on the other hand, oshawott looked dopey but his evolutions looked killer.)  Do looks factor into your choice? 

For any budding trainer, the choice of starter pokemon is a crucial choice, no?

Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Vencoris on March 17, 2013, 02:09:53 PM
I typically lean toward the grass-type.

It's been my experience that later in the game there are many interesting fire/water options but non-starter grass types tend to come early and be weaker overall or part of disadvantageous combos like bug-grass (coming from silver, but the pokemon counts were much lower back then so this may have changed).
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Ashton on March 17, 2013, 02:19:39 PM
I choose the one I like most aesthetically.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Dice on March 17, 2013, 03:15:17 PM
I choose the one I like most aesthetically.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Starmongoose on March 17, 2013, 03:31:56 PM
Yeah. I pick em for how they look, the only one I was disappointed with was Chikorita.


Bulbasaur
Chikorita
Torchic
Piplup
Snivy

I want to pick Froakie next gen but the boyfriend called dibs. :[

I'll settle for Chespin.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Hathen on March 17, 2013, 03:41:25 PM
I picked Charmander in G1, then after that I generally picked the Grass type my first playthrough.

Sceptile's my favorite so far.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Mickeymac92 on March 17, 2013, 03:41:42 PM
I usually go in order (fire,water, grass, grass (LG), water(G4), fire) but by gen 5 I started going with whichever was the coolest (Instead of Tepig I chose Oshawott...who turned out to be amazing). That means Next gen I go with the fire starter finally.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Dincrest on March 17, 2013, 03:59:44 PM
For X-Y, I'm leaning toward Froakie.  Chespin's adorable and Fennekin looks cool, so I'm kinda digging "dorky" looking Froakie.  I'm thinking he'll be like Oshawott in that he may be dorky now, but he'll grow up totally awesome.    

On the other hand, I agree with Vencoris that, at least in my experience, it's hard to find cool, or at least decent, grass types in the wild, whereas good water and fire types are far easier to encounter in the wild, like Gyrados or Magmar for example.  So Chespin's an option for me too.  Unfortunately, grass type starters have been hit or miss.  Popular opinion seems to be that Bulbasaur was decent, Chikorita sucked, Treecko was an improvement (esp. in evolutions), Turtwig was supposedly the best grass starter (esp. in final evolution), and Snivy looked cooler than he performed.  Like I said, I haven't played a Pokemon game since Crystal, so I'm just going by what I've read everywhere on the 'net.  (I chose Cyndaquil as my starter in Crystal.)  

So, yeah, I'm probably going either Froakie or Chespin.  And I'm probably going to go with Y over X because as cool as that legendary deer looks, I'm more interested in a legendary flying type.  

EDIT: Hathen, it's funny you say that, because from what I understand Charmander was at a disadvantage on the first two gyms yet Bulbasaur did well.  Yet in the next set of games, Chikorita was the liability for the first couple of gyms. 
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: (Tunnels) on March 17, 2013, 04:11:23 PM
I choose the one I like most aesthetically.

This as well. Although I may change that based on whether its a type I've used a ton in previous games. For example, this gen I'm torn between Froakie and Fennekin, since I like Froakie aesthetically, but the last three Pokemon games I've played I've chosen water starters. Boyfriend wants Chespin so that's off the table.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Solstafir on March 17, 2013, 04:28:56 PM
I always just choose the water type. Not much more to say beyond that, haha.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Taelus on March 17, 2013, 04:41:58 PM
My selection process goes something like this:

"Is it Charmander?" Y/N?

If Y: choose it
If N: Ask again.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Eusis on March 17, 2013, 04:58:51 PM
My selection process goes something like this:

"Is it Charmander?" Y/N?

If Y: choose it
If N: Ask again.

I think flaming monkeys are an acceptable substitute.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Dice on March 17, 2013, 05:08:45 PM
BLATANT SELF-PROMOTING: Please visit my Dev Account for a lovely anthropomorphic version of the X&Y starters~  Lov ya~!

The whole Pokemon culture for who is better is amazing to me.  Game-wise, I find it too easy to really care about who I pick, most can get you by, and you're pretty well off if you main three of varied elements.  But I hear head-to-head it gets really intense. 
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Starmongoose on March 17, 2013, 05:12:48 PM
You could be the game with Luvdisc if you wanted too. :P
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Dincrest on March 17, 2013, 05:49:59 PM
Dice- I smell a Pokemon/ love adventure crossover.  Hey, if they could cross over Pokemon and Nobunaga's ambition, why not Pokemon and Memories Off with your cute girl designs of Chespin, Fennekin, and Froakie?  

Taelus- In thinking about the fire-type starters, Charmander is still the best.  Cyndaquil, Torchic, Chimchar, and Tepig don't seem to hold a candle to Charmander.  We'll see how Fennekin compares.  

Now to think about the water starters.  Squirtle's good, Totodile was solid (he started out really strong, but Cyndaquil had the more powerful final evolution), don't know anything about Mudkip, Piplup's gotten mixed reviews with some saying he's great to others saying the opposite, Oshawott's evolutions are pretty badass
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Dice on March 17, 2013, 05:52:33 PM
Dice- I smell a Pokemon/ love adventure crossover.  Hey, if they could cross over Pokemon and Nobunaga's ambition, why not Pokemon and Memories Off with your cute girl designs of Chespin, Fennekin, and Froakie? 

Oh man, I smell a kinda creepy/awesome idea that has anthropomorphic pokemon that you can hook up with.  Poké-nerd fantasies can come true!!!!

...I'd totally eat-up a real Sandslash.  His "hair" would be awesome.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Dincrest on March 17, 2013, 06:03:17 PM
Considering the awesomely creepy nature of many Japanese games that make us raise our eyebrows (like that doujin love adventure with the giant pigeons), I'm surprised that crossover hasn't been done yet.  Although perhaps the idea of a tsundere Bulbasaur using vine whip with dominatrix tendencies may perhaps have too much of a squick factor...

Then again, some Pokemon like Gardevoir and Gothitelle look like anime human females so perhaps this crazy idea isn't too far off.  

Are we turning Japanese?   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWWwM2wwMww

EDIT: I can totally see your Chespin girl as the childhood friend archetype, the Fennekin girl as the popular/out-of-your-league girl you've been crushing on from afar, and Froakie girl as the quiet mysterious one.  Man, I really HAVE played too many love adventures that I can pick out archetypes based solely on appearance.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Starmongoose on March 17, 2013, 06:06:24 PM
I'll have some of that Nidoking action XD
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: insertnamehere on March 17, 2013, 06:11:17 PM
They need to be cute. ◕‿◕
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Dice on March 17, 2013, 07:06:32 PM
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=hitec&page=

POST. URL says it all.  They're all ◕‿◕

(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo78/Hazuki_Arashi01/Human%20Pokemon/033.jpg)

Hm.  All girls need lovin....
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo78/Hazuki_Arashi01/Human%20Pokemon/003.jpg)

My super saijan sandslash
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/357/8/f/gfr_028___sandslash__s_morpher_by_gijinka_fr-d5hocvn.jpg
(too big to img, but hilarious)
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: MeshGearFox on March 17, 2013, 07:15:19 PM
I go with whichever one is cutest :(
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Dincrest on March 17, 2013, 07:31:56 PM
Dice- I think we've unleashed a monster.  The only ones I can safely say I like are the Lapras girl and the Kingdra girl because they don't look like jailbait.  
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Hathen on March 17, 2013, 10:24:44 PM
pfft

why are you acting like pokemon need to be anthropomorphised to be lusted after
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Aeolus on March 17, 2013, 11:57:12 PM
I typically go with the Fire type.

The Grass ones typically has too many issues and Water types are a dime a dozen.

Now if only I knew if Gen 6's Fire Starter evolved into a Fire Fighting type or not because that's been done to death.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Hathen on March 18, 2013, 12:24:03 AM
I think there was some descriptions floating around implying we're getting Water/Fighting and Fire/Psychic, and people logically extended that to assume we'll get Grass/Dark.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Monsoon on March 18, 2013, 12:52:17 AM
If that's the case then Water/Fighting is the most appealing by a long shot.  Anyhow, I usually get the Grass starter because it fills some holes in a normal attack profile that aren't fulfilled by my other favorite attacking types (Ground, Fighting, Rock, Dark, and Ice).  I always have a team with those five skills on it, and a good Grass starter is a great solution to taking on a Water. 
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Aeolus on March 18, 2013, 03:19:35 AM
I think there was some descriptions floating around implying we're getting Water/Fighting and Fire/Psychic, and people logically extended that to assume we'll get Grass/Dark.

Water Fighting would be a pretty swell choice as long as Gen 6 doesn't pull a Gen 4 and leave ALL of its Fire types til post game (save for the Fire Starter and Ponyta). But I wont assume anything on starters since people assumed that Gen 5's Fire Starter was going to end up with a Fire Dark pokemon since it looked like Ganon and 'why would GameFreak make a third Fire Fighting starter in a row?'.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Ranadiel on March 18, 2013, 07:34:00 AM
I loved Charmander, so I always pick the fire type because that is the closest I can get to him. I honestly haven't even looked at the starters for the new generation yet. >.>
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Mickeymac92 on March 18, 2013, 01:42:51 PM
pfft

why are you acting like pokemon need to be anthropomorphised to be lusted after

Oh what a coincidence, I just found that out the hard way. Please excuse any typos, as I seem to have GONE BLIND.

OT: I'm actually hoping that the water starter is Water/Electric, for no other reason than because I've seen a lot of fanart that makes his evolutions look like a viking, and I want to call him "Thor."
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: John on March 18, 2013, 03:17:17 PM
My criteria:

Is said pokemon available as a starter?

END CRITERIA.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Tooker on March 18, 2013, 03:56:17 PM
The first factor for me is what type they'll end up as and the moves they can learn.  Since that often ends up a wash between a couple, I'll admit to going with whichever's cutest after that.

Dincrest: I love that song. :)

Dice: Have you seen these drawings?  493 Pokemon drawn as anime girls.  Some less work-friendly than others.  It's a mild example, but... rule 34, y'all.
http://www.geekologie.com/2011/01/24/pokemon-girls-full.jpg
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Agent D. on March 18, 2013, 04:38:47 PM
Fire type, always. Charizard, Blazican, the hedgehoggy one in gold/silver, Emboar....always the fire type.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Dice on March 18, 2013, 05:11:59 PM
In regards to picking NON-Starter Pokemon in my roster: The Pokemon can't look like a little pussy ass bitch.

I mean, seriously.  WHy would I want this over Nidoking, Gyrados, or Onyx?
(http://images.wikia.com/pokemon/images/0/05/Clefairy.gif)
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Starmongoose on March 18, 2013, 05:12:39 PM
I know right?

Jigglypuff is way superior to Clafairy.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Dice on March 18, 2013, 06:22:24 PM
I know right?

Jigglypuff is way superior to Clafairy.

Jiggly in Smash was the cat's ass.

Also:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lphozuaEhY1qif5qvo1_250.jpg)
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Alisha on March 18, 2013, 06:58:34 PM
starters i've chosen
charmander
totodile
uh the grass lizard
piplup
uh the grass snake

only piplup breaks the pattern
I LUV DINOSAURS YO!
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Annubis on March 18, 2013, 07:19:18 PM
The last Pokemon I played was Yellow... soooooooo Pikachu.
Pidgey was still my MVP.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Perigryn on March 25, 2013, 03:44:01 AM
Lot of fire lovers, it seems, if I read right.

As for me:
Is it Bulbasaur?
If 'Yes', then 'Bulbasaur.'
If 'No', then 'Grass-type.'

But, that being said, all I've played with are Bulba, Chikorita and Treecko.

That being said, in Pokemon Diamond/Pearl, effing penguin (http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-20/art/p2wb-piplup.jpg), guys. Look that adorable little mofo.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Dincrest on April 03, 2013, 02:33:52 PM
It seems like selecting a starter pokemon is akin to this anaolgy:

You've been magically transported to an empty room with nothing but your skivvies on.  There, a mysterious voice tasks you to embark on an epic quest.  But before you can go out the door, you must choose one of three items to start your quest off with: 1) a sword  2) a shield  3) a suit of armor.  Which do you choose?  

It almost seems to me that common consensus is
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sword= fire starter, shield= grass starter, suit of armor= water starter
EDIT: My reasoning for this is:
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Fire starters are good offensive sweepers, but are fragile.  Grass starters are excellent supporters and are quite effective if you're flexible with your strategy.  Water starters don't have as many huge weaknesses as the others and often evolve into tanks.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Ashton on April 03, 2013, 02:41:39 PM
Seems legit, I chose shield due to its flexibility compared to the other two and I do indeed choose grass starters more often.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Monsoon on April 06, 2013, 12:11:26 PM
I would say that analogy holds for the first few generations, but keep in mind that in Gen V it all got flipped.  Both Emboar and Samurott are sweeper/tanks with poor speed but above-average offensive stats and decent HP.  Serperior is a sweeper/tank with poor attack, possessing good speed but low offensive stats.  Let's just say that Gen V tried to turn starter stereotypes on its head and coincidentally is also the worst group of starters in Pokemon history. 
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Dincrest on April 14, 2013, 03:25:55 PM
I've heard the analogy that water= tank, fire= sweeper, grass= special ops. 

I echo the sentiment someone else said that hopefully fennekin won't be a fire/fighting type again, since chimchar and tepig were both fire/fighting. 

I'll definitely be choosing Froakie. 
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Aeolus on April 14, 2013, 03:52:30 PM
I've heard the analogy that water= tank, fire= sweeper, grass= special ops. 

I echo the sentiment someone else said that hopefully fennekin won't be a fire/fighting type again, since chimchar and tepig were both fire/fighting. 

I'll definitely be choosing Froakie. 

Also torchick.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Hathen on April 14, 2013, 04:30:01 PM
If Froakie ends up being Water/Fighting you're all obligated to call it Battletoad
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Aeolus on April 14, 2013, 04:54:49 PM
If Froakie ends up being Water/Fighting you're all obligated to call it Battletoad

Much better than Revolver Oshuwatt which only lasts as a joke until you evolve it into a Dewott which you then have to proceed to rename it to Mountain until the final evolution where you name it Seven or Nobunaga.

Also, you don't have to call it a Battletoad if you want to call it Zitt, Pimple, or Rash instead.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Dincrest on April 14, 2013, 06:34:47 PM
Speculation time! 

I predict Chespin will be grass/fighting because of its slashing claws.  I predict Fennekin will be fire or fire/normal unless it deviates big time from the precedents set by other "fire dog" pokemon like Vulpix and Growlithe.  Froakie is a tough one to predict.  I'm thinking water/ice since the moustache and all look like snow clouds on high mountains, and there are frogs, like the Alaskan wood frog, who can freeze themselves into hibernation and generally survive in Arctic circle climates. 
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Starmongoose on April 14, 2013, 06:39:09 PM
I predict...

Froakie: Water

Chespin: Grass

Fennekin: Fire

Pokemon don't like changing da formula.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Ashton on April 14, 2013, 06:41:30 PM
I'll likely choose Chespin or Finnekin.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: kofvscapcom on April 14, 2013, 09:36:21 PM
I tier-whored in Gen 1 so it was bulbasaur for me. Been avoiding fire for a few gens because they were all fire-fighting, rumors are that the new one will be fire-psychic though. But yeah, Fennekin looks like it has the biggest potential to look cool so thats for me.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Aeolus on April 15, 2013, 01:01:54 AM
I tier-whored in Gen 1 so it was bulbasaur for me. Been avoiding fire for a few gens because they were all fire-fighting, rumors are that the new one will be fire-psychic though. But yeah, Fennekin looks like it has the biggest potential to look cool so thats for me.

To be fair though, it was really hard to not tier-whore gen 1(sans Yellow) due to the utter lack of anything that can deal with Rock & Water early on (the Electric resistance is cute too but doesn't matter against Guile Lt. Surge due to Sonic Boom spam). Once you hit Diglett Cave though and caught yourself a lucky level 29 Dugtrio you were set for the rest of the game (by the time Dugtrio stops being enough is when you should already have and finished raising Larpas/Snorlax/Gyarados/or something similarly asskicking). Additionally dealing with the first Mt. Moon and Rock Cave is really annoying without something that can oneshot Geodudes.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Holykael1 on June 01, 2013, 04:40:43 AM
This is an interesting question. It really depends, normally during my first playthrough of a pokemon game I will choose the most badass looking. On a replay playthrough I tend to choose the grass type starter because for some reason I have this idea in my head that they are the underdogs of the starters.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Jotacon on June 02, 2013, 12:39:20 AM
Hrrrmm... I never really think about what I'm going to choose, I go with my gut. At the same time I've played with a Grass starter 3 out of 5 times and I would have picked Treeko over Mudkip if I knew what the evolution looked like. I tend to like the ability to absorb life with grass and they look like dinosaurs. For X and Y I plan to pick Froakie because he is cute as hell, but I'm gonna wait to see the evolutions. I hope Froakie is Water/Dark that would be the best.
Title: Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon?
Post by: Sagacious-T on June 02, 2013, 02:17:30 PM
I pick the loneliest looking one.

:(