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Title: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Embryon on March 27, 2013, 12:15:09 AM
Since we're now three episodes strong, Stephen and I figured it was time to make a thread for Rhythm Encounter. Feel free to discuss our latest topics here, give us suggestions/feedback, share your fond (or not-so-fond) memories, or whatever you like!

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Our most recent episode, Flights of Phantasy, is a look at the classic Phantasy Star series. Please listen and let us know what you think!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on March 27, 2013, 12:15:56 AM
I listened and I think it's just swell.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on April 03, 2013, 02:32:24 AM
So, if anyone is interested-- please do feel free to offer suggestions for music you'd like to hear, topic ideas, and anything else in this thread. If I don't hear anything, you're going to keep getting topics that fascinate me and Derek :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Perigryn on April 03, 2013, 09:33:15 PM
Getting caught up now that I'm up to speed on Random Encounter, so I've only run through the first episode. Right now, the only suggestion I have is it'd be rad to have the same theme, but remixed differently. Like, given a more classical treatment, if at the same tempo, or straight piano - just to make it more of a different show, but still very much linked to its parent, right? That'd be slick. Get back to you as more comes to me, but still, good start, gents!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on April 03, 2013, 09:39:02 PM
Thanks a ton for the feedback! And I'm glad you pointed that out-- that was an idea I wanted to try to expand on too! You'll see it a teeny bit in episode 3, and if you have any suggestions for a theme you'd like to see us do this with, please let us know! I hope you enjoy the rest :)

And because I thrive on ego alone, be sure to rate and/or review us on iTunes :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: kofvscapcom on April 04, 2013, 09:44:58 PM
Enjoying the series so far, brings back a lot of memories. Might be least original suggestion ever but you guys should do an episode or two on boss/battle themes. The FF series itself could probably take up an episode on that topic but some other good ones might be Pokemon, Persona 4 (vita remix), Super Mario RPG, Pokey Means Business (earthbound), Bloody Tears (Castlevania 2 though I don't know if people actually consider that an RPG) and Matthew Patel's boss theme from Scott Pilgrim vs The World is pretty awesome (not sure if RPG either). Also, finding some interesting remixes on OCRemix could provide new perspectives on songs we've all heard many times, though I don't know if you would need permission to play them in a podcast. Anyways, keep up the good work.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on April 04, 2013, 09:51:40 PM
I'm actually looking into that-- though I don't think OCR would have a problem. And as always, thanks a ton for the feedback. Though I've said this to many people, we are actually planning some episodes that will incorporate many of your topic ideas-- boss themes for sure-- and we'll probably do a few episodes on Final Fantasy (NES series, SNES era, PS1 era, etc) and other big ones. And as much as I'd love to cover the entire OST from Scott Pilgrim, it actually would not fall into our coverage, sadly (basically, if the main site covers it in terms of news and reviews, it's fair game for us in the Music section).

And again, thanks very much for the suggestions and feedback-- we ALWAYS appreciate it.

And if you want to throw us a rating/review on iTunes, that's always welcome :) #shill
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Embryon on April 20, 2013, 11:19:33 PM
Episode 4 is live. (http://rpgfan.com/news/2013/1257.html)

"Phantasy Stars Universe, it will shine onnnnnnn~"
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Embryon on May 10, 2013, 06:11:11 PM
Say hello to Episode 5 - Ormond Alliance (http://"http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2013/1302.html").

We were really glad to get Casey back on the show. What are your favorite tracks from the Ivalice games?

(I'm trying to stoke the fires of discussion, okay!?)

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on May 25, 2013, 10:56:53 PM
gave the last episode a listen a few days back, and thought it was great to have the episode all about Ivalice Alliance.

Keep it up!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on May 26, 2013, 04:51:07 PM
Glad to hear you enjoyed it! Ivalice needs as much love as it can get. NEVER ENOUGH.

Appreciate you popping in for feedback :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on May 27, 2013, 02:25:17 PM
Awesome job on the Summer Chill soundtrack. At first I was confused with the introductory three songs, however the rest of the episodes were definitely solid. This episode is really helping pass the time at work today

You guys totally got the point across...at least for me. A lot of the songs brought back memories of my summer vacations as a teen, and topping it off with Suikoden II was just...so good. I hadn't heard that tune in years, but it totally brought back all the emotional investment that so many fans have with Suikoden II.

Great work guys, again, keep it up! I'm really look forward to the next episode!!!

Also, I hear that mint chocolate chip ice cream is the bee's knees...(I really do think it is)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Embryon on May 27, 2013, 03:22:50 PM
You have earned yourself a shout-out. :D Thank you so much for listening and giving your feedback! It really brightens my day every time I hear that someone enjoyed the show.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on May 28, 2013, 12:59:32 PM
Not even finished listening yet, and I have to say two things:

- Thanks for the shoutout on the Torchlight music.  Stephen, I assume you were making a Vanilla Ice reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1s0hEi8zhmg#t=88s) there?

- The music behind you as you discussed the brutal heat of summer was awesome.  Well done. :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on May 28, 2013, 02:01:41 PM
Thanks, Tooks!

+1 to you for my obscure 90's pop culture reference.

And yes. That music was from Fallout, which you ALSO reviewed ;).

Glad you're enjoying it!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on May 28, 2013, 04:48:34 PM
You might say that mint chocolate chip ice cream is the bee's knees, but only if tin roof is unavailable. Sorry, my favorite ice cream is not your favorite ice cream :P

And I miiiight have to call Chrono Cross the "Summer RPG" from now on.  Maybe.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on May 28, 2013, 06:01:52 PM
Looks like Derek's going to be making a few shoutouts :)

Also tell me more about this... tin roof.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Alhizzy on May 28, 2013, 07:00:26 PM
This last episode was great, I liked how you spliced in some music while you were discussing things (e.g. before the Torchlight 2 track).  Also, I prefer the choice of themes for the podcasts instead of game series, as I wasn't very big on the Phantasy Star episodes; just didn't seem to have enough variety.  I thought that for the Legend of Mana selection, the Polpota Harbor theme might've been a better choice than Hometown Domina though, sounds a bit more "Summer-y".  Also, I'm kind of surprised you guys didn't mention Costa del Sol from FF7.  That would've fit in like a glove.

Are any of you playing Wizardry 8 since that's on GOG now?  I about pooped a brick when I saw that news posted on the site, since critics have said it's better than the modern Might and Magic games, and a physical copy of it was really hard to track down.  It's got some good tunes in it if you haven't played it.  I'd recommend the Character Creation and Normal Combat 1 tracks.

Sorry I haven't posted, I really like the show since it's got a good mix of nostalgia and some insight into some of the more obscure games that a lot of people wouldn't hear the music for otherwise.

And Derek, I agree, mint chocolate chip ice cream is the bees' knees, never get sick of that stuff.  Need to remember to pick me up some of that this week.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on May 28, 2013, 08:04:30 PM
Thanks for the response! I'm glad the music over conversation went over well-- like I was telling Derek and Kyle before we recorded, I'm a big fan of experimenting with new things when it comes to editing. I think it keeps it fresh and fun, even if every idea isn't a winner. I got quite a laugh out of Kyle's Simpson's quote over Fallout music.

I can see where you're coming from regarding variety in the episodes. I enjoyed the "theme" thing a lot too-- and I think I'd like to keep a balance between "series" shows and "themed" shows, because I think that gives us a lot of creative freedom. And when we were planning the episode, there were a few tracks that we forgot about-- Costa Del Sol, Vennicio from Dark Cloud 2, and a few others. I'm not averse to annualizing certain topics, and I wouldn't be surprised if we do seasonal episodes once a year-- there's tons and tons of material out there, so I'm sure next year we'll be able to run another.

I like Polpota Harbor a lot too, and I agree that it definitely fits the vibe.

I'm not playing Wiz8 now, but it's something I'm very interested in trying out. I'm listening to the tracks you recommended now, and I actually think they'd fit really well for an upcoming WRPG episode we want to do. I'm going to have to pick up the game and see for myself if there's anything else fun to include.

Thanks a ton for your comment-- and no apologies necessary-- we just have a lot of fun doing this and by getting suggestions and ideas from you all, it broadens the scope of the show to include things we might not normally think to include (like Wiz8!)

Derek's shout-out count: 3
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on May 28, 2013, 08:39:08 PM
All this Chrono Cross music makes me want to go play it, even though I detested it the first time I popped it into my PSX way back when because it was not Chrono Trigger...

Maybe I have matured and need to revisit this game on my Vita.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on May 28, 2013, 10:52:11 PM
All this Chrono Cross music makes me want to go play it, even though I detested it the first time I popped it into my PSX way back when because it was not Chrono Trigger...

Maybe I have matured and need to revisit this game on my Vita.

I support this idea.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on May 28, 2013, 10:58:33 PM
Also tell me more about this... tin roof.
Vanilla ice cream. Chocolate-covered peanuts. Fudge ripple. Basically a sundae on a cone. Best combination.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on May 28, 2013, 11:00:07 PM
Also tell me more about this... tin roof.
Vanilla ice cream. Chocolate-covered peanuts. Fudge ripple. Basically a sundae on a cone. Best combination.

While I don't think I'd take it over mint chocolate chip (OMDGOISNDGOIMMONOMNOMNOMNOM), that does sound magical. I have room in my heart for both.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on May 28, 2013, 11:39:41 PM
I'm thinking double scoop - one of each. :)

They opened a Culvers near me recently, and I drop by there for a pint of frozen custard way more often than I should.  (I know that's not ice cream, but it's in the same family of desserts.)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on May 29, 2013, 10:57:53 AM
mint chocolate chip ice cream is the bee's knees.

Just found out about the podcast recently or rather decided to finally give it a listen. Great podcast!! I was just really angry(not really) that there were no Breath of fire 3 tunes there because there is one particular track that screams Summer!(atleast for me). That would be To a Distant Place(the 2nd world map theme).
I think you guys should definately feature some tunes from Breath of fire 3 in one of the podcasts, I think that game has one of the most awesome soundtracks in any game. Underrated soundtrack for a criminally underrated RPG if you ask me.

I really enjoyed the summer episode and will give podcast number 2 a listen because that one seems really cool. Anyway, also great to see some love for Chrono Cross. I think the hate for that game is really idiotic and kinda dumb, I enjoyed it more than Chrono Trigger(not too much but still) for the simple fact that the game has a much deeper story and I think it took a lot of courage to follow the direction that they did with that game. In terms of soundtrack I think they are on the same degree of quality which is godlike quality but I tend to lean a little bit more the Chrono Cross soundtrack.

By the way, would visual novel songs be eligible to the podcast? I think you guys should totally do a podcast revolving around atmospheric, mysterious and sort of creepy songs. I think 999's soundtrack would fit really well there, especially songs like binary game and septenary game.

You guys should also do a podcast with dramatic and more sad songs, things like "A great warrior" and "sending a dream into the universe" from FF7, "To Zanarkand" from FF10 and "Morphogenetic sorrow" from 999 would fit really well. And of course an episode on Ys music or Falcom music!
Sorry for the long post, anyway great podcast and keep up the awesome work.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Alhizzy on May 29, 2013, 06:07:00 PM
mint chocolate chip ice cream is the bee's knees.

Just found out about the podcast recently or rather decided to finally give it a listen. Great podcast!! I was just really angry(not really) that there were no Breath of fire 3 tunes there because there is one particular track that screams Summer!(atleast for me). That would be To a Distant Place(the 2nd world map theme).
I think you guys should definately feature some tunes from Breath of fire 3 in one of the podcasts, I think that game has one of the most awesome soundtracks in any game. Underrated soundtrack for a criminally underrated RPG if you ask me.

I really enjoyed the summer episode and will give podcast number 2 a listen because that one seems really cool. Anyway, also great to see some love for Chrono Cross. I think the hate for that game is really idiotic and kinda dumb, I enjoyed it more than Chrono Trigger(not too much but still) for the simple fact that the game has a much deeper story and I think it took a lot of courage to follow the direction that they did with that game. In terms of soundtrack I think they are on the same degree of quality which is godlike quality but I tend to lean a little bit more the Chrono Cross soundtrack.

By the way, would visual novel songs be eligible to the podcast? I think you guys should totally do a podcast revolving around atmospheric, mysterious and sort of creepy songs. I think 999's soundtrack would fit really well there, especially songs like binary game and septenary game.

You guys should also do a podcast with dramatic and more sad songs, things like "A great warrior" and "sending a dream into the universe" from FF7, "To Zanarkand" from FF10 and "Morphogenetic sorrow" from 999 would fit really well. And of course an episode on Ys music or Falcom music!
Sorry for the long post, anyway great podcast and keep up the awesome work.

They got Bluebird Lamentation in there as a preview track in one of the podcasts, so it's probably fair game.

Speaking of 999's soundtrack, a song on there that I never particularly cared for was the Quietus (Game Over) song.  But!  After playing VLR, the song actually tells a story with the sound effect selection in it, which blew me away.  I don't want to spoil anything,  so I'll let you guys try and figure it out. 

And Stephen, I'm struggling with Wiz 8's difficulty on novice setting, so I guess it's probably right up your ally.  It's a mammoth though, requires a lot of time.  Thanks for the great reply!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on May 29, 2013, 06:38:26 PM
@Holykael

I'm thrilled you enjoyed the show! And sadly, some stuff does get left out (just ask Derek how often he has to tell me to trim my picks). But the benefit is that A) we'll definitely be returning to the summer topic, and B) now that you've suggested it, I'll be sure to keep an eye on BoF-series stuff. I myself have only beaten BoF1 and Dragon Quarter, and this is actually why we're such big proponents of you guys telling us what kind of stuff you'd like to hear-- because there's stuff that we might not think of, or may have never heard, so when you say "hey, BREATH OF FIRE!" we're like "oh snapu, let's include that!" In that way, too, it's fun for us, because we get to hear things we've never heard before too.

When it comes to Chrono Cross, I 100% appreciate when people tell me they didn't like it. What I don't like is when they say "It's not like Chrono Trigger so I hate it." They're very different games, but Chrono Cross is, if you ask me, a complete triumph and an awesome expansion on the plot of CT. Musically, I love 'em both, but CC edges out its big brother for me.

Visual novel songs are a yes. As Alhizzy said, we had a fantastic VLR song earlier, and I would love to include more VLR/999 in the future. (Morphogenetic Sorrow will, OF COURSE, be in the show at some point).

We'll definitely have a Falcom ep (though I'll probably have to defer to Derek on how to organize that one), and melancholy songs are another theme we've thrown around. In short, great ideas, and you'll definitely see us act on them in the future!

@Alhizzy
Yes, I agree 100% on Quietus.

Wiz8 looks like it would be up my alley-- once I clear my reviews backlog for RPGFan, I'll probably be checking it out. The fact that you guys know I love murderous difficulty tickles me greatly.

Thanks again for the responses, folks!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on May 29, 2013, 06:58:46 PM
@Taelus

Oh ye I was referring to that kind of Chrono Cross hate. I can accept legitimate and well backed dislike for the game.
Im only familiar with Breath of fire 3 and 4 myself. I want to play 1 and 2 aswell down the road. You guys should definately give the BOF3 soundtrack a listen. Some of the highlights would be "To a distant place" "technology" "fight!" "Boss battle theme" "a tribute to the dragon" "castle wyndia" and my favourite song along with to a distant place "Turning point". A really good vocal one is "Pure again"(it plays during the credits)

A battle music themed podcast should also be inevitable down the road I suppose too :D

Oh man I cant wait to get a vita to play VLR and Ys IV..999 is among my favourite games ever.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Embryon on May 29, 2013, 09:44:35 PM
I am quite familiar with the BoF series and the Ys series, so I'd be more than happy to spearhead both of those podcasts. :D

Echoing Stephen's sentiment about appreciating your feedback. You guys rock.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on May 29, 2013, 09:55:38 PM
I support any additional episodes worshiping at the Mitsuda altar and discussing ice cream flavors. Let's make it happen, people.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Jotacon on May 30, 2013, 05:39:27 PM
I like that when you promise shout-outs a discussion is started.

I thought this was definitely in the top 6 of all the Rhythm Encounter podcasts so far. I'm happy that I was listening to this podcast in 33 degree weather (I guess that's around 92 in Fahrenheit) under the shade of a tree, chicken wrap in one hand and iced-tea in the other after a day of child-rearing. It was relaxing and really set the tone of the whole thing. I will echo the sentiment that themes are generally stronger than focusing on a series and isolates fewer audience members. That said, I did beg for the Chrono Cross episode on Twitter as you can see I am plainly just selfish.
On the topic of the episode, Summer reminds me of RPGs in general. I mean, I never had more time than summer in highschool just to play videogames. If I were to make a selection I would have grabbed The Beach theme from Xenosaga Episode 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PtdnwvVJlY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PtdnwvVJlY).
As a huge fan of the Xenosaga series I gotta represent; it is also the series that reminds me the most of summer since that is when I played through episodes 2 & 3. Or in the same vein of relaxing summer music I would have replaced Port City Ruan with Cat Relaxing in the Sun from Trails in the Sky.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg6W2IX2DqY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg6W2IX2DqY)

Monsoon I agree we need more discussion of ice cream flavours. My favourite is Tiger Tail, the balance of licorice and orange is perfect. Though, Min Chocolate Ice Cream is the bee's knees as well.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 01, 2013, 02:34:04 AM
Hey, we're not above bribes. Well, I thought we were, but now that I've seen what they can get us, I'm all for it.

I'm glad you enjoyed it the most-- we've gotten a really great reception to this episode all-around, so we're definitely going to aim for more broad topics (boss themes are probably up next). If you guys come up with any creative ideas, feel free to share them. If we do a Chrono ep, it'll likely be a Chrono Trigger/Cross/Radical Dreamers one, but we'll see :)

I'm a HUGE fan of the music in XS2 and 3, and I've actually already picked a track from 3 that will appear in the next podcast :). Good choice there.

As always, it's great to hear from you guys! Keep it up! Tell friends! Spread the love! Have your favorite family member give us 5-stars on iTunes!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on June 01, 2013, 04:51:48 AM
 Boss battle themes huh?
 The strongest foe(Ys oath) HAS to be there! Not to mention force your way(ff8) and awakening(xenogears). While you are at it why not Mighty obstacle from ys VI ark of napishtim.
 Boss battle theme from Breath of fire 3 aint too shabby either.

Anyway these are just some suggestions, Im sure part of dancing mad will be there so it's not even worth mentioning. Im looking forward toi the episode and Im sure you guys will pick some awesome stuff.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on June 01, 2013, 01:49:30 PM
Other than the already-really-beloved boss battle themes (Force Your Way, Dancing Mad, Battle With Magus, etc.), one I've always found underrated is Lufia II's link to DS version's battle 2 remix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxdehxfaTtk). Kinda standard hard-rock-guitar stuff going on, but I really like the licks and how bright the trumpet sounds. Even in the SNES version. 

And of course they aren't RPGs, but shout-outs to Divine Combat (The Binding of Isaac) and Fast Track to Browntown (Super Meat Boy).  Love Danny Baranowsky. 
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Embryon on June 01, 2013, 02:28:37 PM
So, we decided not to include any final boss themes in this episode, just because those deserve an episode of their own (at least). I had a blast picking my tracks, and I think you guys are gonna enjoy this for sure. A few of my selections are really close to your suggestions, Holykael1 and Monsoon. :D
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: kofvscapcom on June 01, 2013, 11:27:06 PM
The persona 4 boss theme and the boss theme of dark cloud 2 would be my suggestions. Dark cloud 2 soundtrack was really good in general and the boss them evokes this epic struggle feeling.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on June 01, 2013, 11:55:55 PM
Should definitely include Zwei!!'s final boss theme in the final boss epsidoe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtGv6S3xUYM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtGv6S3xUYM).I'll be looking forward to your boss theme themed episode. :)

Should add Brodick's boss fight theme  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azFi-WxSjNU)from Rune Factory Frontier. Plenty to extract from the piece.

Actually, you know what would be an interesting episode? Gather a bunch of tracks that use [French] Horns and what kind of characteristic/topic they are implying. Hunting? Heroic? Pastoral? Epic? Wait...are those perfect fifths I hear? Perhaps it would do best as just a side thing and not so much an episode...who knows. ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on June 02, 2013, 12:11:57 AM
Do you, by any chance, play french horn? :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Alhizzy on June 02, 2013, 12:17:47 AM
Tsuyoshi Sekito cranked out some great battle themes in The Last Remnant.  The Gates of Hell was a real thrasher of a song if you want to toss up a good rock & roll boss theme.  

The game might've had its flaws, but that soundtrack was amazing.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on June 02, 2013, 02:04:19 AM
Do you, by any chance, play french horn? :)

I do not sir, my instrument is actually the piano. ;)

I only mention the horn because it's a staple in some classical music to signify some of those topics. It doesn't have to be only the horn, as brass can easily fill the spot in creating those topics--or even be used together. 

Some game examples:
Rune Factory - Depature (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjkw8RYp30g&list=PLBC38F304B4E42A09)
Rune Factory Soundtrack: Track 30: I'll Go! (http://Rune Factory Soundtrack: Track 30: I'll Go!)


Also, here's a topic that would be great for October: Game music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLTVqhvFhp8&list=PL11AC8F34EBD72A95) that uses the organ to signify something Evil/Demonic/Satanic. An instrument originally compared to God's voice--sometimes in conjunction with a bass singer--is as quickly used for the opposite effect. Maybe Captain Nemo was on to something when playing that sucker in Disney's 1954 film "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" ;). Here's a quick video of seeing Bach's toccata (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-MMssvU36I) in various films over the decades (Also, yay for Bela Lugosi in "The Black Cat"). It makes you wonder what kind of values do you bring to the headphones when listening to music--especially game music. Do they shape your views of a soundtrack poorly? Do they make you interpret something a certain way (the whole hunting/pastoral topics)? Do they evoke certain sound and imagery (like relating Bach's toccata to horror topics)?

Who knows, maybe I'm spouting nonsense here? ;)

Also, please, for the love of pete, read the second top comment on the Iris boss theme vid...couldn't stop laughing (if you get the reference).
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: EndofPi on June 07, 2013, 06:43:12 PM
I recently found your podcasts by accident. I have been listening to active time babble and rpgcast from rpggamer both were lackluster for me. To be honest I do not know why I have not heard of you podcast until now, and I have looked but I am glad I have found it.

 I agree with Alhizzy that it is better to do theme that way I am still interested in the podcast all the way through especially if there is a game I played so I can "be" apart of the conversation. With podcast featuring a series, it is harder for me to relate to since I never experience the game therefor I wouldn't have had any prior investment in to that episode. When there is a cluster of different game then there is a higher chance that I may have played but there is only my preference.

Some themes ideas
Ending or Opening themes
Music with particular sounds such as bells (Nocturne has one)
What may be neat is to have a game between the host. Have a song from a certain game and each of the other host may have to figure out which game or type of scenario its trying to depict.

Also this is the first time I found someone else who likes the Shadow Hearts series and Chrono Cross.

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 07, 2013, 07:03:47 PM
Thanks a ton for your kind words! I'm glad you find us not lacking in luster!

Anyways, yeah, I think I enjoy the theme idea more too. I'd still like to do a couple "series" episodes, but we'll skew more towards broader themes/types of music than series in the future.

Thanks for the suggestions-- I've had a few ideas like that too. Op/End themes are definitely something we'll do, and "particular sounds" is a great idea. I like your game between the host and others, too-- I've been trying to think of something like that, so hopefully in the future we can work something like that out. It would be fun to have a segment where one of us brings a track or two and says "okay, guess the series/composer/scene this accompanies." Could be a good time!

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Also this is the first time I found someone else who likes the Shadow Hearts series and Chrono Cross.

You poor thing. Let me personally welcome you into our loving fold.

EDIT:

Also, picking tracks for the new episode. I'll try to work in some of all of your suggestions (we had a fourth member of RPGFan picking tracks this time, too). I can't fit everything, but don't worry-- we'll have a volume 2 of Boss Themes :). I'm always thrilled to have you guys sending in your favorites too-- makes it "everyone's show."

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Grainofariver on June 20, 2013, 04:58:09 PM
I don't often create an account for the sole purpose of expressing enjoyment at a thing, but I would hate to see the podcast stop due to a perceived lack of interest.

I happened to be listening to be listening to the summer podcast while playing Dark Souls - particularly while going through New Londo. The music clashed with the game so badly it actually made me laugh aloud several times.

It's always conflicting hearing something from Chrono Cross, because while I agree that the music is some of the best I've heard and the art direction is wonderful, I just dislike almost everything else about the game. I've enjoyed nearly everything I've heard by Mitsuda. Hearing the selections from Lime Odyssey was both pleasant, as I got to hear more of his work, and heartbreaking as it is a game which I will never play (for multiple reasons). Certainly it would be worth listening to the music separately, but as has been stated, it adds so much to hear it within the context of the game.

Thank you sirs for the content, I look forward to more in the future. And lest I forget: Mint chocolate chip ice-cream is the bee's knees.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 20, 2013, 05:27:10 PM
We've already recorded the next episode, but you will receive your shoutout. IT SHAN'T BE FORGOTTEN.

That said, I know it takes people time to make accounts and write on forums, especially if it isn't something you normally do, so I just wanted to say that we truly appreciate you doing that. There's a factoid that goes around saying that most vocal parties make up a very small portion of an audience, and that people are much more likely to speak out when they have a negative thought than a "I really enjoyed this." Therefore, I'm REALLY thrilled when I hear that someone (like yourself) went the extra mile to come in and say something nice-- though of course, am always 100% open to constructive critique, too! So, tl;dr version, thanks a ton!

We have a comment on the iTunes page stating that song editing could be better. I'd like to address that, but I'm not 100% sure what it means. Is it referring to the sometimes-abrupt transitions I do to truncate longer songs or repetitive songs? Anyone have any thoughts on that?

And even though you don't like Chrono Cross as a game, I still love you for coming in here and talking. I'm glad you liked Lime Odyssey's music too-- because it's something I will also NEVER play, but man does it sound lovely.

In any case, at risk of sounding repetitious, thank you again. I'm happy you're enjoying, and we aim to keep making the show better and better through new ideas and feedback. May you continue to enjoy me saying "UGHSDLKGH I LOVE THIS SONG" in 1.5-hour chunks.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Jotacon on June 20, 2013, 06:33:28 PM
We have a comment on the iTunes page stating that song editing could be better. I'd like to address that, but I'm not 100% sure what it means. Is it referring to the sometimes-abrupt transitions I do to truncate longer songs or repetitive songs? Anyone have any thoughts on that?
Well it certainly is true that when you shorten the songs it is really abrupt and kills the mood. I found that annoying, but not enough to comment on it. Having it brought up though, I'd like it if you handled the song transitions differently. You could choose fewer songs, which is the easiest option and wouldn't be too bad. A more professional or even just smoother transition would be nice if you know how to do that. I can do video editing, but my experience with audio editing and manipulation ended in failure so I'm not quite sure how, but if you could give it shot I would certainly be pleased.
Otherwise, I have no idea what it could be talking about. Alas, I am a simple philistine and have no knowledge of music outside of how it makes me feel.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: insertnamehere on June 21, 2013, 05:51:46 PM
FF15 is coming out on Playstation 4 and PS1?
well now~
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 21, 2013, 08:33:33 PM
Well, some early feedback I had from other editors was that we should shy away from 5+ minute songs. In effort to combat that, I've taken to those abrupt transitions to cut out repetitive portions of longer songs. Would listeners not mind longer songs in between talking segments? I try to keep a general balance of time, but if people don't mind lengthier songs, that's at least one way I can sidestep the abrupt editing.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Grainofariver on June 23, 2013, 10:56:01 PM
 I can only speak for myself as I've read drastically different opinions when it comes to discussing podcast length, so I will say 'Personally' once and just assume from here on out that it applies to the rest.

 Personally, when taking into consideration that the podcast already runs over an hour, it seems you have a bit of room to work with, as most people are already dedicating a solid chunk of their time to it. That's not to say exceeding much over two hours would be the best idea. Still, there is the fact that it is a podcast about music, and music is certainly something which requires time. While most video game pieces do limit themselves to shorter tracks on loops, there are a few tracks which have a more dynamic nature often requiring more length, and to see them cut out for the sake of time would perhaps be limiting. While I am here equally for the music and the discussion, I would appreciate having a slightly longer podcast that gives the music... ah, how to say - a complete presentation? (my vocabulary has failed me)

 These are my thoughts anyway. (have I mentioned that?)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 23, 2013, 11:04:57 PM
Your words do not fail you-- that's very helpful! We've discussed this a lot between ourselves, so it's helpful to hear what you listeners think. Generally, I cut all songs down to one loop, but with longer tracks I think it WILL be good to let them breathe. I'm going to be editing our new episode tonight and tomorrow, so I'll keep your suggestions in mind. WE WILL MAKE THIS THE GREATEST MUSIC SHOW EVER.

And I think you're right on the money about the length-- if we were a more compact format, I'd hesitate, but since we're already going for the 'big episodes' duration, I think it IS good to give the music enough room to breathe.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on June 24, 2013, 05:07:12 PM
Yes. I agree with this. There are tracks that I'd like to keep listening to only to find out they've been cut short.

I'll +1 the more of the track we can listen to, the better it is!

Keep it up guys, you're doing fantastic work. To be honest, next to the cult of mac podcast, this is the one i look forward to the most.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Embryon on June 25, 2013, 02:39:50 PM
Yes. I agree with this. There are tracks that I'd like to keep listening to only to find out they've been cut short.

I'll +1 the more of the track we can listen to, the better it is!

Keep it up guys, you're doing fantastic work. To be honest, next to the cult of mac podcast, this is the one i look forward to the most.

These words please me greatly. GREATLY.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 26, 2013, 04:11:35 AM
Okay guys-- a new episode is coming in the next couple of days (got busy/lazy with editing). In the meantime, if you were going to pick a favorite song from a WESTERN RPG (that's anything designed and composed primarily by western musicians and developers) or adventure/visual novel, what would you pick?
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on June 26, 2013, 06:49:17 AM
Well.. I would pick the very cliché "Rogue Encampment" from Diablo 2.. I dont have much experience with Western RPG's aside from the blizzard titles so Im a little bit limited on that.

Guys, the wait is killing me! Release the podcast at once xD

Edit: I would totally be up for full length songs btw!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Darilon on June 26, 2013, 08:22:14 AM
I really like the ost for Divine Divinity

Divine Divinity - Song of the Wind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAY2dU4HWZo)
Divine Divinity - Stones and Trees (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vrWh3Mhkk)
Divine Divinity - The Four Season's Changing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkb-450Av8M)


Morrowind is full of great music but the main theme always gets me.

The Elder Scrolls III Morrowind: Main Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWuNf4gxwuM)

Edit: For favourite I would pick the Morrowind Theme although it is in large part due to it evoking memories of playing the game.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: _Vandalier_ on June 26, 2013, 02:22:07 PM
I really like the ost for Divine Divinity

Divine Divinity - Song of the Wind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAY2dU4HWZo)
Divine Divinity - Stones and Trees (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vrWh3Mhkk)
Divine Divinity - The Four Season's Changing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkb-450Av8M)


Morrowind is full of great music but the main theme always gets me.

The Elder Scrolls III Morrowind: Main Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWuNf4gxwuM)


Edit: For favourite I would pick the Morrowind Theme although it is in large part due to it evoking memories of playing the game.



I agree completely, that Morrowind themes evokes a lot of memories from me as well.

If I had to just pick one at random it would be the theme to the original Dungeon Siege

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7aYfjE8h48
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 26, 2013, 04:01:21 PM
Sweet, thanks for the suggestions! Keep them coming! I'm trying to compile a giant list. I already have a big chunk of games I want to include, too.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: unsmashable_pumpkin on June 26, 2013, 05:42:05 PM
Not featured in the game, but this song from the witcher soundtrack amused me greatly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmAxGaAajaI
to be serious the only thing that really springs to mind are the really obvious picks like the mass effect galaxy map song and whatever played during the dream sequence in mass effect 3. The music in western rpgs tends to not stick out that clearly to me while I'm playing, so I'm looking forward to the podcast to see how the music holds up outside of the context of the games.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on June 26, 2013, 06:58:21 PM
Let's go back in time for some Western RPGs, because I cant think of anything aside from what's already been mentioned.

How about some of the music from Ultima?

Path of the Avatar (also known as Stones) pretty sums much my childhood spent playing the various Ultimas (at least up to 7...everything past that was rubbish) on my 486.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Jotacon on June 26, 2013, 11:57:28 PM
Jeremy Soule before he was THE Jeremy Soule. I give you Secret of Evermore Introduction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnV7w_tpmpI&list=PL20042C3DDA238B10). Yes, it's part of a playlist, but that soundtrack has some real gems. It is more JRPG-ish than his later work, but you can really look at this game as his roots.
I also really like Fire Eyes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAmJNXcZIfM&list=PL20042C3DDA238B10) and Pirates of Crustacia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpdvSNIf4XU&list=PL20042C3DDA238B10) for those that aren't going to listen to the whole thing.
The Streets of Whiterun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_6utMqfR8g) is the only song in Skyrim I remember other than the main theme. Great relaxing, but emotional tune.

I'll be back to you on other songs once I've relistened to a few soundtracks. Many WRPGs tend to have a similar vibe so I have a hard time remembering which songs I like.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: unsmashable_pumpkin on June 27, 2013, 03:34:56 PM
Okay guys-- a new episode is coming in the next couple of days (got busy/lazy with editing). In the meantime, if you were going to pick a favorite song from a WESTERN RPG (that's anything designed and composed primarily by western musicians and developers) or adventure/visual novel, what would you pick?

Oh, wait. Just realized. This should still allow for indie games, right? So my picks would be:
moongazer from To the Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29TX6pGEuBI
and Zulf's theme from Bastion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlfUcnSbKDA
 
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 28, 2013, 07:01:13 PM
For some reason I just read your name as unmashable potato and LOLed for like a minute. ANYWAYS. Again, thanks for the feedback and suggestions for music. I started trying to implement some of it in

http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2013/1506.html THE NEW EPISODE

and will keep it in mind when we sit down to record the next edition.

And yes, this allows for western indie titles. I want to  do a more indie-specific episode at some point, but they're definitely admissible here.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: unsmashable_pumpkin on June 29, 2013, 06:11:24 PM
For some reason I just read your name as unmashable potato and LOLed for like a minute. ANYWAYS. Again, thanks for the feedback and suggestions for music. I started trying to implement some of it in

http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2013/1506.html THE NEW EPISODE

and will keep it in mind when we sit down to record the next edition.

And yes, this allows for western indie titles. I want to  do a more indie-specific episode at some point, but they're definitely admissible here.

Heh. I'm not sure my actual username is that much more sensible (potatoes are awesome and yummie too, though). More of a inside joke among my friends that only I find funny.

Good episode by the way :) I really love the format of the show, and it's a neat tool for picking up on good soundtracks from games you haven't played.

I will look forward to the indie episode then. I haven't followed the indie adventure game scene that closely as I mostly game on consoles/hand-helds, but the games I've checked out so far have had surprisingly nice music. And transistor is going to be so good...

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on June 29, 2013, 06:21:00 PM
Yay new episode!

Just spent the better part of the morning listening to it, as well as part of the afternoon. Pretty hefty podcast since it weighs in around 2hr.20min, like a good movie.

Not sure if it was deliberate, but the tracks felt longer in this episode, and that was good! Gave me a better idea of each song. I swear, every time you push Chrono Cross it makes me want to play it...!

Since you guys went with the boss battle theme, what about love themes that are found in RPGs? There's probably a good amount of music (whether they are quality or cheesy, I can't say) but it might serve as a good sub-section to an episode?

Also, thinking about soundtracks from games, I'm trying to think when they started becoming prevalent, at least in the western market. If memory serves me right, I want to say it was with Final Fantasy VIII. I recall my friend buying that monstrous CD collection, and going into music stores and finding piano sheet music for the soundtrack as well (or at least for "Eyes on Me"). Am I completely off base? Was it more popular than I recall? I know King's Quest VI tried (very unsuccessfully) to sort of try and push their end theme song 'Girl in the Tower' when that game came out. I am very interested in hearing what you guys think about this

Also, does anyone remember back in the PSX days, you could pop your discs into a CD player and listen to some of the tracks? Actually, now that I think about, wasn't there a music player in the system screen that you would access to manage your memory cards and such?
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on June 29, 2013, 06:23:57 PM
Yes! new episode! Im going to listen to it. Will leave some feedback tomorrow!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 29, 2013, 07:07:10 PM

Also, thinking about soundtracks from games, I'm trying to think when they started becoming prevalent, at least in the western market. If memory serves me right, I want to say it was with Final Fantasy VIII. I recall my friend buying that monstrous CD collection, and going into music stores and finding piano sheet music for the soundtrack as well (or at least for "Eyes on Me"). Am I completely off base? Was it more popular than I recall? I know King's Quest VI tried (very unsuccessfully) to sort of try and push their end theme song 'Girl in the Tower' when that game came out. I am very interested in hearing what you guys think about this

Also, does anyone remember back in the PSX days, you could pop your discs into a CD player and listen to some of the tracks? Actually, now that I think about, wasn't there a music player in the system screen that you would access to manage your memory cards and such?

How funny that you should mention Girl in the Tower. Wink.

And yeah-- that was a feature called redbook audio, and some games did it while others didn't. Early Falcom disc-games did-- and it was quite neat! PSX had a music player, but it was just to play CD-based music, it didn't specifically give you access to music from the games.

Thanks very much for the feedback, everyone! This episode ended up being longer than we expected, but I figured, as you all said, we're already a heftier show than your average 1 hour podcast (which, personally, I don't mind), so we gave it a little room to breathe.

The indie adventure scene DOES have some fantasticm usic. Check out Austin Haynes' score for Cognition (like the song Life or Death from episode 3). I'm glad you enjoy the format-- what you state was ACTUALLY one of our major goals for the show-- to introduce people to music they might not have heard and some discussion of it.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on June 29, 2013, 08:41:31 PM
I mean, Girl in the Tower....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69M2iiI__XQ

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 29, 2013, 08:57:10 PM
I mean, Girl in the Tower....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69M2iiI__XQ




*cough*ontheplaylistforhtenextepisode*cough*
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: kofvscapcom on June 30, 2013, 02:10:45 AM
yeup, you interpreted my username correctly, have a cookie. Would recommend ME3's An End, Once and for All for an ep sometimes down the line, really liked that song and Bioware released an extended version for N7 fan day some time ago. And I agree with whoever said that FF8 didn't really have that memorable a soundtrack. My only regret is no Battle on the Big Bridge. Keep up the good work people.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on June 30, 2013, 05:36:11 AM
Amazing episode guys!
I really enjoyed the editing in this one and the little chrono trigger transition from past to future!
Some awesome picks there, I am really happy to see a lot of Ys, especially Ys Seven and Ys origin getting represented since those are my favourites in the series. I understand that the music of Ys on it's own is really good but it doesnt really have that big of a impact without context. However if you have memories to attach to ys music it's some of the best in any video game imo.

Omg.. the chrono cross Miguel boss theme, great pick. I played chrono cross in the beginning of the year for the first time right after beating chrono trigger and damn, that moment was really ballsy of them and that kind of storyline approach is what puts chrono cross in a whole other level of pedigree, superior to chrono trigger in almost every aspect in my eyes(even if comparable in some aspects like the batte system and soundtrack)!

Currently I am playing through Xenosaga episode 1, so also really happy to see one pick from the series. That game is like everything I could ever ask for in an rpg. A convoluted, interesting, intriguing and epic narrative. A fairly good soundtrack( I am only 6 hours in and there hasnt been a song yet that really blew me away yet) and a fantastic battle system. It seems to have the potential of being better than xenogears but it's too early to tell, minus in the soundtrack department because xenogear's is one of the best of Mitsuda's works tbh.

I suppose the next episode will be very western rpg heavy since you are asking for suggestions on that, right?

Also it was really cool of you to include some of the audience's picks! Overall the best episode of the podcast yet although the summer episode is also really up there. I would totally be up for an episode dedicated to Chrono Cross or have a song from it in every podcast XD
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 30, 2013, 05:57:12 AM
yeup, you interpreted my username correctly, have a cookie. Would recommend ME3's An End, Once and for All for an ep sometimes down the line, really liked that song and Bioware released an extended version for N7 fan day some time ago. And I agree with whoever said that FF8 didn't really have that memorable a soundtrack. My only regret is no Battle on the Big Bridge. Keep up the good work people.

I do like cookies. And An End Once and For All will absolutely be part of the western RPG episode. I adore that song-- especially for the extended version. I personally like FF8's OST a lot, but I can see why some people might not be as down with it. And don't worry about ol' Girugameshu's battle theme: we'll have plenty of chances to play Big Bridge in the future. (Trivia, original we were thinking of calling this episode something like "Big Bridge.")

Kael,
Fantastic! Glad you enjoyed it! I always want us to improve. We realized after we recorded the second half that we had made references to E3 and the time, haha-- so we had to include SOMETHING to be like 'yes this is why we have traveled through time.'

I love the Miguel boss theme. I love CT and CC both quite a bit, and it's hard for me to choose a favorite. I'm with you though, that that moment was ballsy of them and really adventurous from a storytelling standpoint. I can see why some don't like it, what with expectations and all, but I thought they knocked it out of the park.

Actually, Xenosaga episode 1 is Mitsuda, but 2 and 3 are composed by Yuki Kajiura and Shinji Hosoe (of 999/VLR fame, among many others). I actually find ep2/3's music to be BETTER than the Mitsuda stuff from the first episode. Xenogears is a lofty album to beat out in Mitsuda's catalog. One Who Bares Fangs at God is basically one of the greatest and most stirring final boss themes ever.

The next episode is (probably) going to be western game-focused, because we want to make sure people realize that there IS great western music out there, it's perhaps just not as prolific (owing mostly to how music is used in western games versus Japanese games). We'll be including adventure games as well (games like King's Quest, Chains of Satinav, Cognition) and some western indie titles, too (though we want to do an indie episode too).

Glad you enjoyed the audience picks-- that's something I'd love to do in every episode. I think it helps make it "everyone's show," and is our way of thanking you guys for contributing to the discussion here. It also gets some picks in that we otherwise might not have included and challenges us to change up what we're talking about.

And yes, I would be up for a Chrono Cross episode, too. And Rob. Mmm... Chrono Cross. On the flip side, if we did that, we wouldn't be able to save up any CC music for OTHER episodes. :).
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Darilon on June 30, 2013, 07:31:25 AM
Really enjoyed the episode. I am glad you guys added in Shadow Hearts: From the New World. The soundtrack seems to be often overlooked due to the dislike people have for the game itself. Loved the conversation about Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross as well as about I'll Face Myself.

I personally like FF8's OST a lot, but I can see why some people might not be as down with it.

I agree with you about the soundtrack to FFVIII. I was not a huge fan of the game that much until a recent playthrough where I began appreciating it a lot more, especially the soundtrack.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Grainofariver on June 30, 2013, 07:52:41 PM
After taking three days to listen to it, I can properly say that this was a fantastic episode. Likely I could write an essay (perhaps even essays) on thoughts regarding these songs, as I recognize many of them and the moments surrounding them stick out in memory. Instead, super fast summary time of a few select tracks because nobody likes a wall of text, much less several of them.

Anything by Shoji Meguro - Thank you, I need to replay about 4 games now... I enjoy the uniqueness offered by Meguro's work, yet what I've heard remains diverse enough that I will never be unable tell apart a Persona 3 track from say, Nocturne.
Prisoners of Fate - I swear I've heard this somewhere before, but either way Mitsuda is amazing and I still wish Chrono Cross didn't have the issues it did (would love to discuss that, but this is a place for music discussions, and the music is fantastic)
Ornstein and Smough - I would have recommended Gwyn's music earlier if it hadn't already been said that final boss themes aren't applicable. Good follow up choice, hearing that DaS was done by Sakuraba was a shock, especially as a fan of the Tales games.

Boss music is always interesting, and I often wonder how it must feel from the point of view of a composer. So often I find boss themes grand or epic (forgive my lack of knowledge when it comes to music terminology), but truly having it fit within the situation provides the most memorable effect. For example, the melancholy nature of Prisoners of Fate works with the situation, creating an experience that sticks to the mind. Similarly, while Magus' Theme is probably my favourite boss theme, everything that came about before it helped set it up. Would the situation be nearly as memorable without the flames, the tower, the quest for the Masamune, etc. before hand? That the music fit with the situation so well made that entire sequence absolutely stapled in my mind as a defining moment of my childhood gaming. (I just noticed that the two tracks I chose as examples are both by Mitsuda - no, I do not fanboy, thank you very much)

Great episode, and I enjoyed the changes. Looking forward to the next. As a closing note, that transition caught me entirely off guard. During the time I was listening to the podcast, playing a game and holding two conversations. Upon hearing the sound of the opening gate from CT the oddness of it brought everything to a crash as my mind froze. I would equate it to juggling five balls at once and one of them suddenly catching fire.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: unsmashable_pumpkin on July 01, 2013, 03:49:30 PM

The next episode is (probably) going to be western game-focused, because we want to make sure people realize that there IS great western music out there, it's perhaps just not as prolific (owing mostly to how music is used in western games versus Japanese games). We'll be including adventure games as well (games like King's Quest, Chains of Satinav, Cognition) and some western indie titles, too (though we want to do an indie episode too).

Glad you enjoyed the audience picks-- that's something I'd love to do in every episode. I think it helps make it "everyone's show," and is our way of thanking you guys for contributing to the discussion here. It also gets some picks in that we otherwise might not have included and challenges us to change up what we're talking about.

And yes, I would be up for a Chrono Cross episode, too. And Rob. Mmm... Chrono Cross. On the flip side, if we did that, we wouldn't be able to save up any CC music for OTHER episodes. :).

Looking forward to the next episode. Expecting (hoping) for some Witcher-tunes in there ;)
Chrono cross episode sounds so good. you know you want to do it...

on the topic of boss songs:
the worst boss music I can remember hearing: Melt Down from Shadow Hearts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uABux-MDdJ8
A really long gruelling fight for me, especially since everytime the boss would use a powerful attack the controller would start vibrating constantly until he used it again. In a game were you actually have to focus on getting the timing right that was incredibly distracting. I also couldn't turn the music off because I had become so accustomed to the sound when you hit the right section of the judgement ring, and it really put me off when I couldn't hear it. 20 minutes of that song on loop. *shudder*. The rest of the soundtrack is really good though
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on July 01, 2013, 04:14:42 PM
The Kingdom Hearts music you played made me think of the end credits song from Doctor Horrible's Sing-Along Blog:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tWbCZmYXvU

Jump to 48 seconds to hear the violin that specifically connected the two in my mind. :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on July 04, 2013, 10:27:04 PM
So I came up with a few suggestions for the podcast during a boring trip. If a Chrono Cross episode couldnt be made. Why not make an episode dedicated to specific composers like Yasunori Mitsuda, Nobuo Uematsu, Meguro and such just to name a few. I also came up with this as an excuse to have some Xenogears goodness on the podcast XD.

In terms of overall themes it would also be really awesome to see an opening themes based podcast someday, I suppose you guys already had this idea so I think this is a completely useless an unecessary suggestion but on the off chance that you didnt, here it is anyway.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Alhizzy on July 05, 2013, 02:21:22 PM
I may be a bit late on the Western music suggestions, but I wanted to throw out a couple of other non-Jeremy Soule suggestions from the Might and Magic series, which is a series so near and dear to me.  Paul Romero really did a great job on those soundtracks, although it's sort of difficult to pick out 1 or 2 themes that stand out as super awesome.  Here's a few songs that I think are pretty good.

M&M7 Intro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC2cfeR1f74

Hub City theme from M&M8:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VheGsu202s

Haven Battle from HOMM5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-RNoAAT6sk

Liked the last episode by the way, completely forgot that Dark Souls does actually have some good music in it (was too busy trying to not die to appreciate it).
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: EndofPi on July 06, 2013, 03:57:16 PM
Sadly the only western music I can think of is from costume quest random enough. But I really enjoyed the boss theme episode. Also, I am really digging the music to muramasa, anyone else listening to it?

Ps instead of some good songs how about some of the worse such as the red chocobo somg from final fantasy x 13-2
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Jotacon on July 06, 2013, 10:39:01 PM
After what felt like an eternity I finally bought new earphones giving me the ability to access this lovely podcast. I really enjoyed it. The length was perfect and I appreciated the new editing choices, it gave the whole thing breathing room and of course more time to listen to awesome music. The topic of course makes the whole thing totally unfair since Boss Songs are extremely memorable and many of the best RPG composers (Uematsu, Shimomura, Meguro) do their best work on them IMO. I'm always pleased with the inclusion of Xeno music and Fatal Fight is one of the best. My only criticism was despite how much I like the Falcom JDK Band Derek could have picked a larger variety of songs - although it did remind me that I have to play Ys Origin, I've yet to do it and that song was so good.
Anyway, I can't wait for the related episodes like Boss Music Part 2, Final Boss Music and Regular Battle Music which might be my most anticipated one. Keep up the good work, you continue to put out good podcasts I'll keep on listening.
Since I don't see a thread for it- Good going on the OCRemix live-chat. I didn't see it all, but I liked what I saw and you get additional props for getting the interview so close the the excellent albums release. This was probably OCRemix's best and most cohesive album so I'm having a hard time picking a favourite (or even top 5).
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on July 09, 2013, 05:22:25 PM
Finally got around to the new episode.  Fantastic work!  My only regret is putting forth a second Lufia II song when I could have shown off Skies of Arcadia's dynamic battle themes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj34EB7Jz_M) or something from Tenpei Sato.  Still a solid ep!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on July 09, 2013, 05:43:42 PM
I'm a bit busy, but I wanted to say really quick-- thanks for the great response, everyone! I'll have more detailed stuff to say when I'm not editing a special episode that may or may not be out today *cough* ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on July 12, 2013, 04:36:09 PM
I have a few more minutes left in the Special Episode to listen to, (will finish on the way home) but that opening track...Good Lord!

Aivi Tran is super talented, and the podcast just keeps getting better and better. I know I'll be getting Soul Saga. If there was ever a game that made me want to play based on the music (The songs from Chrono Cross is pushing me in that direction) Soul Saga probably tops the list.

Also, this show needs more FFT/Ivalice tracks, but I suppose that's for another day haha!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Embryon on July 12, 2013, 04:39:19 PM
I'm glad to hear that! We were also really elated to speak with Aivi, because she's both talented and a lovely person in general. In case you were wondering, we do plan on posting the interview on the main page later today or tomorrow, but the RSS feed picked it up a bit early. :)

Thank you for listening! (And re: Ivalice stuff... is a whole episode dedicated to Sakimoto not enough for you!? Haha!)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on July 12, 2013, 04:42:37 PM
I'm glad to hear that! We were also really elated to speak with Aivi, because she's both talented and a lovely person in general. In case you were wondering, we do plan on posting the interview on the main page later today or tomorrow, but the RSS feed picked it up a bit early. :)

Thank you for listening! (And re: Ivalice stuff... is a whole episode dedicated to Sakimoto not enough for you!? Haha!)

More! Need more!!! haha
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: kofvscapcom on July 12, 2013, 05:25:46 PM
I don't know if Iji is considered an RPG as it's a metroidvania style indie shooter, but "Kinda Green" is a pretty cool song from it and I find myself just relaxing to it.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on July 13, 2013, 02:42:02 AM
MEGAPOST INCOMING:

So, to each of you:

Darilon--
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Glad you enjoyed the boss themes ep. I think SH:FtNW is criminally overlooked in just about every regard, and man that music is great. I also really enjoyed the conversation.

I think FF8 is a tough game to love in some regards, but musically I've always thought it was great. It went for a VERY different vibe that FF up to that point (and arguably since then), and I think that's one of its greatest strengths.
Grainofariver--
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After taking over two weeks to reply, I can say that I totally appreciate your comments. I find that the more we introduce people into the show, the easier it gets to expand our voice and the things we can say. And Shoji Megur o is indeed the man, and yes Prisoners of Fate is awesome LOVE CHRONO CROSS.

Gwyn's tune is incredible, but that one will be in the final boss themes episode, never you worry ;). I was shocked when I heard that it was Sakuraba doing DaS too, but when you go back in listen, it really does make perfect sense.

I definitely think some of the memories help make a song dramatic-- and some lose some of their impact without context; that said, I actually think Magus' battle theme does a really great job of evoking its context without actually being in it.  And psh, you can't fanboy Mitsuda, he's a beautiful genius of music, it's only natural that we should all love him.

Anyways, thanks a lot for listening to the ep and for your feedback.
unmashable potato--
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I've come to terms with no Chrono ep, BUT I've thought of two plans: 1) put Chrono music in every show and 2) do a show of Chrono ARRANGEMENTS, to flavor it up.

And while I think Melt Down is a pretty rough sound, I think it's sorta meant to be that way haha. It's definitely AIEIEE.
Tooker--
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Yes. Also +1 for mentioning Dr. Horrible.
Holykael--
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We've actually discussed doing some composer-specific eps, and I definitely think those will happen at some point. A lesser-known Mitsuda tunes show would be great. I also thing more Xenogears is good, and I assure you many of our upcoming topics will include awesomeness like One Who Bares Fangs At God, etc.

Definitely gonna be an opening themes-based ep as well. And don't worry-- whether we thought of it or not, we appreciate suggestions. Keeps 'em fresh ;)
Alhizzy--
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Defintely not too late. I think you'll find yourself very pleased with the Western music ep (coming VERY soon). Thanks for the kind words about boss themes ep as well. (and yeah, oftentimes you're too busy being stabbed in the face to hear DaS music)
EndofPi--
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YOUR NAME DEFIES REALITY. Anyways-- glad you enjoyed the boss themes ep. And I'm playing Muramasa for review, and it has incredible music. Definitely something I'm going to point out in the future. Like THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti2XZ7dvsAE (visual spoilers of the third boss in Kisuke's campaign).

As for the WORST music-- while I think that's subjective, I'm sure you might see something like that... For Slash One day, perhaps.
Jotacon--
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Thanks for listening man-- glad to hear the new editing style was to your liking. Boss songs are totally awesome-- and thanks for the criticism too, we always appreciate it. And yes, play YsO, it's a lot of fun.

I'm looking forward to Final Boss/Boss 2/Battle Themes music as well. We've got episodes planned out through August (and we think episode 10 is going to EXCEED your expectations), so no battle themes/final boss themes just yet-- but they're coming!

And thanks a ton for mentioning the OCR chat. I wasn't sure how many people saw it, but we had a blast doing it, so I was pleased. And yeah, I think it was one of their best albums, too. FISTFUL OF NICKELS!
Monsoon--
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Thanks man! And hey, Skies will get more love. Don't you worry. And with all the new Disgaea stuff (among others) coming, we'll definitely have more Tenpei on. We need to get Neal on the show some time, because he's a big Tenpei fan, if I recall.
ultra--
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YOU GUYS ARE SNEAKY AND FOUND IT BEFORE I POSTED IT OFFICIALLY. BUT. Yeah, Aivi is amazing. I'm not ashamed to say I've backed both Cryamore and Soul Saga just for the music (though I do think the games look good too!). ANNNND PLAY CHRONO CROSS asdlgj. Also, I'm totally stoked that you think the show is getting "better and better." Music to my ears (ha ha).

Also WTFUX we gave you a whole show of FFT/Ivalice ;). Although I'm sure more will be coming. There were tons we cut from the Ivalice ep.
Derek--
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I LOVE YOU
kof--
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I don't think we cover Iji, but damn this song is cool. Thanks for sharing it. I might need to pick up this game. Incidentally, while we've got a whole world of RPG/adventure/visual novel music to cover, I sure would love to be able to cover EVERYTHING. Maybe someday ;).

EDIT: LMAO. I go "man all this Iji music is great, I wonder who it's by" and of course, HyperDuck. These guys are genius and I keep discovering they do EVERYTHING. Anyways, I sure hope THOSE lovely folks end up on Rhythm Encounter very soon *cough.*

*EXHALE*

Okay off to write reviews and plot our next episode (which should be in your hands within a week or two ;) ). Thanks again to every single one of you for listening and contributing to the discussion. Derek and I want this to be everyone's show, and we're totally stoked that so many of you seem to be entering the conversation and loving on some music with us. Kudos. FAREWELL TO YOU ALL
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: kofvscapcom on July 13, 2013, 12:53:56 PM
For western RPG music, I guess the Deus Ex main theme "Icarus" would be cool if you consider that game western. For final boss music the most memorable one in recent memory is probably the final battle in Persona 3. Oh yeah, Iji is a completely free game, I don't think it took more than a few hours to beat.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Darilon on July 13, 2013, 03:29:46 PM
Really liked the interview. Climb, lest I fall is fucking awesome. Never heard it before and even not knowing the context it was great. Home above the clouds and Lonely rolling star are also awesome.

Great show and thanks for further expanding my taste in music. That is one of the things I love about this podcast. It introduces me to great music I may have otherwise missed.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Embryon on July 13, 2013, 05:15:47 PM
KOF: I looooooove The Battle For Everyone's Souls. It's one of the greatest final boss themes ever made, in my opinion. Good choice!

Darilon: We really appreciate that! Getting people to listen to new/awesome music is one of our primary goals, and Aivi is definitely someone to follow. I first heard about her via the Kickstarter for Cryamore, and I like her music so much at this point that I'm willing to throw money at any project she contributes to. Haha!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on July 13, 2013, 11:21:33 PM
Excellent interview guys! You sure did handle that quite elegantly. ;)

I enjoyed Miss. Aivi Tran's personal description of "Corridors of Time" very much.

I believe what I enjoyed most about this interview is Aivi treating music with one's own narrative when performing/composing. A personal anecdote in regards to performance:

One of my piano pieces I was required to learn on piano was Chopin's prelude in E minor (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiwPzHJ-Pic). I had the notes down, but my issue was creating tension and release towards the end of the piece at that mighty climax. My piano teach told me she saw the piano piece as two persons arguing with each other, raising in tension in dialogue until the climax, where the other person gives up and has to cope that things probably are never going to change, but remain as they are--leaving a very bitter ending. My interpretation was a bit more gloomier, as I narrated it as someone sinking to the bottom of a deep, deep ocean, trying to swim to the surface, only to drown at the climax and sink to the ocean's depth for the remainder of the piece, fading away into the darkness of the ocean's depth.

Then there's Satie. ;)

(I jest)

What made me think of it as a sinking, drowning episode is the descent of the chords in the left hand, as you'll notice in the video, especially in the last chords.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on July 13, 2013, 11:57:10 PM
Yeah I know we got a whole episode...I'm just greedy and biased that way lol.

Good stuff guys, keep it up!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on July 14, 2013, 06:35:00 PM
I just listened to the special episode. Really cool person,Aivi, of course. You guys were drooling all over her when she mentioned corridors of time xD.
Her music is fantastic, I was taken aback in fact. It will be something that Ill listen even if I never get around to playing the games themselves! Anyways, great stuff!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Perigryn on July 17, 2013, 07:01:03 PM
All right! Get caught up on my podcasts after being out of them for so long with the move and such I have had fun things to say and add and such!

First and foremost, I have said as much on Twitter, that you guys have gotten things off to a great start! Loving the series and how it's approached. Also love that I got a shoutout AND you got your own version of the podcast theme song done! I R TEH HELPING!

Anyhow, I'ma backtrack to the Ormand Alliance episode:

LOVE IT.

Okay, that's done. Summer Chill? Super sweet, though totally took some different directions than I thought. I don't know if I fully agree with how "summery" some of them were, but the nostalgia dip into "this is the game I played in the summer" totally made sense too.

As soon as the episode started, I was totally waiting for Legend of Mana because, man, that game IS summer and I'm so glad you got there. I mean, I'm sure you had a tough call with what to choose, and Hometown Domina was a good way to go, though there are SO many more tracks that have more of that 'let's hit the beach' vibe of the summer. To The Sea (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqqTFqYLjMg&list=PLD2DBD4902CF76A45") was the first thing I thought of when you mentioned summer. Furthermore, I was really expecting you to get to another town theme, from Ragnarok Online, Theme of Alberta (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2olNmlop850"), but didn't come up. Still. Summer. ENJOY.

Anyways, solid, solid episode that opened my mind to all kinds of new stuff.

Now I'm onto Don't Tease the Octopus, which had such an obvious meaning and I love that Rob kicked it off with Decisive Battle. I'm expecting much more Final Fantasy from this, but there're also so many other JRPGs I have not been privy too and I look forward to, again, having new stuff exposed to me.

Anyhow, Stephen, Derek, you know I love your guy's work. Keep it up! Thanks for all the awesome!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Jotacon on July 17, 2013, 10:20:23 PM
I just listened to the special episode of Rhythm Encounter, I gotta say, pretty good. No offense, but you guys should try to get musicians or the musically educated on more often. As demonstrated here and in Ormund Alliance they have the better grasp of how to talk about the music and it really livens up the conversation that you both bring to the table. Not that I think the show is bad without it(due to outside influence Summer Chill is probably my favourite), but it seems to have a really positive effect. I was also really pleased with how overtly sincere and positive this episode was, it really sold Aivi and her music. I wish I had listened to it when it came out so I could have Kickstarted Soul Saga, looks like I'll buy it like regular chumps. I've grabbed The Black Box though.
It was also a great surprise. Different from what you've done so far and I didn't expect that. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on July 18, 2013, 12:20:11 AM
I wish I had listened to it when it came out so I could have Kickstarted Soul Saga, looks like I'll buy it like regular chumps.

Jota, here: www.disastercake.com/paypal/pledge.php  (http://www.disastercake.com/paypal/pledge.php)(your welcome)

You still have one month via paypal. Had I know this was going to happen, I wouldn't have pledged but wait so I could have gotten the physical game and soundtrack rather than the digital version of each at the same pledge amount (still a little upset with that stunt).

I was also really pleased with how overtly sincere and positive this episode was, it really sold Aivi and her music.

That's one thing I really like about Miss. Aivi Tran: her personality. Listening to her on the podcast and twitch tv when Disastercake was doing a marathon of FF7/6 to promote the kickstarter (I saw you in there Taelus! Though, my username in there was Rhythmroo :)), I sensed a great deal of humbleness and warmth in her dialogue. That same humbleness and warmth is translated into her work, thus proucing music that is unique and familiar: The Tran-sound. I can't wait for both of her soundtracks to come out, as well as Breeze in the Clouds's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY9f1a4BKJ0) soundtrack if she continues it.

No offense, but you guys should try to get musicians or the musically educated on more often. As demonstrated here and in Ormund Alliance they have the better grasp of how to talk about the music and it really livens up the conversation that you both bring to the table. Not that I think the show is bad without it(due to outside influence Summer Chill is probably my favourite), but it seems to have a really positive effect.

While I would have chose another way of saying it (perhaps experienced listeners?), I agree that getting someone else that is able to expand the musical vocabulary of the podcast might be of interest. This isn't saying that I don't like the podcast the way it is now--far from it--but to have a balanced dialogue between the fan and the composer/experienced listener could be a learning experience for both parties, especially for the audience.

Jota, have you listened to any of Kenley Kristofferson (http://kenleykristofferson.com/about/)'s podcasts from Into the Score (http://kenleykristofferson.com/voice-acting/into-the-score/)? I think you might like it, just might. :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Jotacon on July 18, 2013, 01:00:24 AM

Jota, here: www.disastercake.com/paypal/pledge.php  (http://www.disastercake.com/paypal/pledge.php)(your welcome)

You still have one month via paypal. Had I know this was going to happen, I wouldn't have pledged but wait so I could have gotten the physical game and soundtrack rather than the digital version of each at the same pledge amount (still a little upset with that stunt).

Thank you very much! :D The month is a really nice window to see if I can budget in the physical copies of the game and soundtrack too. Sorry.

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That's one thing I really like about Miss. Aivi Tran: her personality. Listening to her on the podcast and twitch tv when Disastercake was doing a marathon of FF7/6 to promote the kickstarter (I saw you in there Taelus! Though, my username in there was Rhythmroo :)), I sensed a great deal of humbleness and warmth in her dialogue. That same humbleness and warmth is translated into her work, thus proucing music that is unique and familiar: The Tran-sound. I can't wait for both of her soundtracks to come out, as well as Breeze in the Clouds's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY9f1a4BKJ0) soundtrack if she continues it.

Even though you sound like a Jedi "I sense a great deal of humbleness in you," I don't think I could  have said it better myself.

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While I would have chose another way of saying it (perhaps experienced listeners?), I agree that getting someone else that is able to expand the musical vocabulary of the podcast might be of interest. This isn't saying that I don't like the podcast the way it is now--far from it--but to have a balanced dialogue between the fan and the composer/experienced listener could be a learning experience for both parties, especially for the audience.

Yes, I do believe I worded that inelegantly. I probably didn't need to include my 'error in terminology' because it is implied when talking about musicians. On the topic at hand. Having a guest it isn't something that needs to happen all the time just having a good selection of music, sharing stories and geeking out is a lot of fun. I just felt that the episodes with guests were still a lot of fun, but opened up different avenues of dialogue. Just clarifying.

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Jota, have you listened to any of Kenley Kristofferson (http://kenleykristofferson.com/about/)'s podcasts from Into the Score (http://kenleykristofferson.com/voice-acting/into-the-score/)? I think you might like it, just might. :)
I'm not familiar with this Mr. Kristofferson. I'm going to have to break my one rule about listening to people from Manitoba. I jest. Actually, I was looking over it and it sounded great, but wasn't sure if I'd have time (that sir, is an excuse) with all my other podcasts until I saw he dedicated an entire episode to Uncharted Waters. That game (and most of Koei's output) is criminally underrepresented in broader Video Game culture. So, I downloaded all the episodes...
I'll tell ya how I feel about it, but yeah I think I just might like it too. :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on July 18, 2013, 01:56:43 AM

Jota, here: www.disastercake.com/paypal/pledge.php  (http://www.disastercake.com/paypal/pledge.php)(your welcome)

You still have one month via paypal. Had I know this was going to happen, I wouldn't have pledged but wait so I could have gotten the physical game and soundtrack rather than the digital version of each at the same pledge amount (still a little upset with that stunt).

Thank you very much! :D The month is a really nice window to see if I can budget in the physical copies of the game and soundtrack too. Sorry.

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That's one thing I really like about Miss. Aivi Tran: her personality. Listening to her on the podcast and twitch tv when Disastercake was doing a marathon of FF7/6 to promote the kickstarter (I saw you in there Taelus! Though, my username in there was Rhythmroo :)), I sensed a great deal of humbleness and warmth in her dialogue. That same humbleness and warmth is translated into her work, thus proucing music that is unique and familiar: The Tran-sound. I can't wait for both of her soundtracks to come out, as well as Breeze in the Clouds's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY9f1a4BKJ0) soundtrack if she continues it.

Even though you sound like a Jedi "I sense a great deal of humbleness in you," I don't think I could  have said it better myself.

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While I would have chose another way of saying it (perhaps experienced listeners?), I agree that getting someone else that is able to expand the musical vocabulary of the podcast might be of interest. This isn't saying that I don't like the podcast the way it is now--far from it--but to have a balanced dialogue between the fan and the composer/experienced listener could be a learning experience for both parties, especially for the audience.

Yes, I do believe I worded that inelegantly. I probably didn't need to include my 'error in terminology' because it is implied when talking about musicians. On the topic at hand. Having a guest it isn't something that needs to happen all the time just having a good selection of music, sharing stories and geeking out is a lot of fun. I just felt that the episodes with guests were still a lot of fun, but opened up different avenues of dialogue. Just clarifying.

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Jota, have you listened to any of Kenley Kristofferson (http://kenleykristofferson.com/about/)'s podcasts from Into the Score (http://kenleykristofferson.com/voice-acting/into-the-score/)? I think you might like it, just might. :)
I'm not familiar with this Mr. Kristofferson. I'm going to have to break my one rule about listening to people from Manitoba. I jest. Actually, I was looking over it and it sounded great, but wasn't sure if I'd have time (that sir, is an excuse) with all my other podcasts until I saw he dedicated an entire episode to Uncharted Waters. That game (and most of Koei's output) is criminally underrepresented in broader Video Game culture. So, I downloaded all the episodes...
I'll tell ya how I feel about it, but yeah I think I just might like it too. :)

Haha, yeah, sometimes Jedi speech is perhaps the best form of feeling-talking. ;)

Also, thanks for clarifying! :) I come across a lot of text that use terms such as "educated musicians/persons" or "unlearned person" (when going further back in decades), and they usually are used in opposition to the "Laymen," or regular/nonprofessional,  listener. I guess I grew sensitive to the word "educated" overtime?

But yeah, perhaps I was too narrow minded in regards to the balance thing. Sometimes it's good to just turn the podcast on, listen to catchy music, and hear friends geek out about how awesome the music is. :)

Into the Score is a little on the academic side, but a great listen none-the-less. If you manage to find time--or portion each episode--you might find out some interesting stuff you'd probably overlook (I swoon at that Dragon Quest VIII podcast <3). Honestly, I'm surprised he didn't touch upon the Wild Arms series, since that sucker is a goldmine of ecstasy (wink wink).
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Jotacon on July 22, 2013, 02:50:44 PM
Also, thanks for clarifying! :) I come across a lot of text that use terms such as "educated musicians/persons" or "unlearned person" (when going further back in decades), and they usually are used in opposition to the "Laymen," or regular/nonprofessional,  listener. I guess I grew sensitive to the word "educated" overtime?
In an effort to slim down the replies, I figured I only needed to quote this. I can absolutely understand where you are coming from. Having studied film at University it quickly became obvious that most people fell into a small selection of groups. For some reason one of those groups (the Indie/Avant-Garde guys) didn't like to hear a word from those without a cinematic background as if there experiences were worthless. They were also annoyingly opposed to the Blockbuster Cinema group where if you liked any made for mass consumption films, they no longer cared about your opinion. Not that they never had something legitimate to say, but they were exclusionary to a ridiculous level. Some of those people went on attempting a career as a critic *sigh*...

Thank you Wild (can I call you Wild?) for introducing me to Into the Score. It is introducing me to stuff about music I've never known. Like, I can tell you what colour is in the context of music, that is pretty cool. I decided to hit random and listen to whatever - I got Shadow of the Colossus which is a two-parter with FFT. What an awesome collection of music and I really enjoyed the way he dissected each section of the FFT music pointing out the purpose and feeling of each - it was super interesting. I knew the musical development stuff, because I'm a history nerd, but it was a really great way to contextualize the symphony orchestra and use it to point out how it informs Otani and Sakimoto's texture in the music. I'm going to hit shuffle again and see where that takes me :)

I only have two complaints:
1. I wish he wouldn't do his "what happened on this year" thing. It's distracting and a time-waster.
2. At the moment I only listen to music on an emotional level. I am afraid I'll start engaging music with my brain! It'll be fine later on, but when you first start to think critically about your media it is hard to both be present and be aware. It takes a lot of practice to enjoy things the way you did before once you start recognizing the mechanics underneath.  At least that is how it's been with movies and books (and increasingly games too) and I use music as my escapism instead.

TL;DR - Listen to Into the Score if you like VGM, it really is an excellent podcast.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on July 22, 2013, 04:52:34 PM
CRAP, lots of interesting posts here I want to check out. I'm on vacation (and plotting episodes), but I'll weigh in soon. Thrilled to see the discussion here though, folks!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on July 22, 2013, 06:16:42 PM
TL;DR - Listen to Into the Score if you like VGM, it really is an excellent podcast.

Ah, yes, cliques…you’ll find those everywhere you go, but in the Arts it’s like that on GOD-MODE ( so I can greatly sympathize with you in that regards). While we had those kinds of groups in the music department, some of the staff was welcoming to all genres of music (thank goodness). One particular professor actually was very encouraging while I was under their guidance as I constructed a draft for my video game music history syllabus (same professor I studied under that I wrote a Grandia paper for).

It’s just a darn shame that the students will cling to a certain genre of music and ostracize others if they don’t share the same ideals. While I myself belong to studying 20th/21th century and videogame music seriously, I keep an open mind about other genres/periods of music—whether from ancient times to Romantic, or Villancicos to hip-hop. All music is so intriguing that I cannot allow myself to close my ears off to any genre/period of music.

I’m glad you liked Into the Score (you can call me wild/wa if it’s easier, I don’t mind :)) because it’s always pleasing to hear others thoughts on game music. It’s always fascinating hearing what others bring to the table about game music, whether it’s academic or simply telling their favorite part in a track. I plan on giving this series a listen soon since I need some refreshing on what some of the podcasts were about…

I don’t mind the “What happened on this year” portion, I’m a patient guy, but I can see how it does slow the main course from reaching its plate. In regards to your 2nd concern: Generally, I listen to music on a sensuous level of listening way before I give it serious, analytical thought. This holds even more true for OP/ED of anime—that sucker is 100% sensuous listening ( I’ve listened to Silly-Go-Round  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o_RYGQKP2U)for 4 years without giving it a second thought in regards to Critical listening-This song rocks ;)). I’ll have more to say about later (perhaps I’ll edit it in) but I’m running a little short on time. Good talking to ya! :)


Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on July 24, 2013, 12:13:51 AM
2. ... It takes a lot of practice to enjoy things the way you did before once you start recognizing the mechanics underneath.  At least that is how it's been with movies and books (and increasingly games too) and I use music as my escapism instead.

I'm going to just split this into two posts (sorry for double post!)

You're correct in believing that it'll take practice to go back to how you used to listen to music. However, I don't believe that's a bad thing...as with studying the various subjects of music, it prepares you in being able to describe not only what's happening in a piece/song, but also why you like/love/adore that piece of music. Speaking out of experience, as you can gather from my response above with "Silly-Go-Round," i can turn that critical listening off at the snap of a finger. I will not listen to a piece of music critically the first time unless for a music exam, which then I am required to turn my thinking cap on--but even then, the professor will play it one or two more times afterwards to let it sink in.

Of course, I feel I would cheat you of a fuller answer if I stopped there, so below is a skeletal breakdown in how I see each music subject in regards to its application in critical listening:

Music Theory
the theory taught in class is not something to bore the heck out of our minds (though some of it can be tedious) but for something greater that some students probably won't understand until later in their career.

What I'm talking about specifically is learning the ideas (like modes, progressions, etc.) and  terminology (names for those ideas)  in describing what is happening in a piece of music, and seeing that terminology/ideas in the scores. Once a student understands as much as they can in describing what's happening in a piece, then what they can do is put that knowledge to use and describe why they like in certain pieces of music that they themselves love, but would probably not find in a music theory class right away (game music, anime music).

But wait a sec, how are they able to tell if a piece of music is using a French/Italian/German 6th chord (more chords, ack!) that they learned in theory in a piece if they don't have the music score in front of them? Well, that's where sight singing and EAR TRAINING (while this is what the class is called usually, the emphasis is my own) comes in.

Sight Singing and Ear Training
This class isn't there to make you wet your pants when you have to sing the melody to the beginning of the Infernal Dance from Stravinsky's Firebird (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd1xYKGnOEw) (horns in the beginning)...at times some of the singing did give me grey hairs (i have them to prove it ;))

Generally, students are trained in singing pieces of classical (not to be confused with the Classical Era) literature and/or practice pieces, but they are required--by the end of each semester--to distinguish the nuances of the chords presented to them aurally, identifying them (and spell them in the correct inversion) that they learned up 'till that point. In other words, you're taking what you learned in theory and putting it into practice.

Anecdote Half time!: To help me with singing/hearing french6th chords (one chord is Ab, C, D, F#) I would remember the first three notes in that chord are the same for Saria's theme (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSxhck4x9xg) (but a different key). This is actually an example of putting what I learned to practice--and to help me--with video game music as the learning tool.

For some--like vocalists--the class may be easier for them, seeing they are engaging their own instrument in class--their body (you better believe this is more than a vocal cord singing...). For myself, this wasn't the case (pianist here), but darn did I do my best (actually passed with a B- in the end). Anyways, once you learn what you've learned in theory sounds like isolated alone (chords alone) and in context (within the music), there comes the next step of understanding what instruments are playing those chords when hearing them in their Orchestral form.

Orchestration
Favorite class, hands down, is Orchestration! You learn a great deal of information (ranges, timbre (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbre), transpositions, etc.) the families of each instrument used in an Orchestra. If you’re fortunate enough and the class runs a full year, then you might be introduced to instruments generally not used in a classical orchestra (like the Tabla, Gamelan, Sitar, Didgeridoo, and so on).

Personally, I find Orchestration being one of the most important classes any music student can—and should—take. You’ll get the option of hearing each instrument by itself and together with other instruments. My class was fortunate to have demonstrations from the students themselves, as well as have our orchestrations played by large ensembles.

Of course, there's a lot that goes with this class than just hearing music/instruments: Terminology again! It's back...with vengeance! I'll just use an example of one string technique that you you're probably familiar with, especially if you're a a fan of Mr. Koichi Sugiyama's Dragon Quest arrangements: Pizzicato. More or less, pizzicato--or pizz. for short--is instead of using the bow to play a note, you pluck it instead with your finger. Musical example:  Dragon Quest VIII OST - Intermezzo ~ Menu Theme (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4H9Zd3zc8I&list=PL82E446FBBE28C5D5&index=3).

Aaaaaaand, that's it for now. I don't want to make this too longer...for everyone's eyes' sake. From these classes I've extracted a great deal of knowledge that I would be able to apply if I was needed to listen to a piece of music critically. However, the perks of having years of music studying under my belt is that it's possible to explain in more detail why I love a certain piece of videogame music, whether in its entirety or just a certain section that redeems it from sounding like other game music.


TL;DR: Learning how to listen critically probably won't take your escape away, but grants you the ability to explain why you love a piece of music, and for that, would be a sacrifice of the sensuous worth taking...

I promise you that you'll be able to switch back and forth the sensuous at the snap of a finger (I'm still not caring about the progression of Silly-Go-Round while I'm listening to it right now). ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Jotacon on July 29, 2013, 03:19:47 AM
Man, first I have to apologize Wild. I read this the first day you wrote it and I was waiting for a good time to respond in full. Unfortunately, I ended up having less to say than I thought and it took way too long. Sorry.

Mostly, I want to say that this was a really interesting read and while I don't think I've learned enough just listening to Into the Score to really effect my music knowledge, I am certainly more sure of my musical terminology. I also want to say that I find what I have learned and everything you mentioned in your post very interesting. A lot of it on the historical side (Bela Bartok is the man), but I think if I have room in my course load I might finally take the Music in Cinema course that I always meant to take, but was always too uncomfortable to.
You've mentioned a game music blog before (somewhere, right?), I'm here to tell you that you have at least one guaranteed reader.

On the topic of Rhythm Encounter, Stephen and Derek you guys need to release another episode or else Wild and I will just eat the whole thread!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on July 29, 2013, 11:47:49 PM
Man, first I have to apologize Wild. I read this the first day you wrote it and I was waiting for a good time to respond in full. Unfortunately, I ended up having less to say than I thought and it took way too long. Sorry.

Mostly, I want to say that this was a really interesting read and while I don't think I've learned enough just listening to Into the Score to really effect my music knowledge, I am certainly more sure of my musical terminology. I also want to say that I find what I have learned and everything you mentioned in your post very interesting. A lot of it on the historical side (Bela Bartok is the man), but I think if I have room in my course load I might finally take the Music in Cinema course that I always meant to take, but was always too uncomfortable to.
You've mentioned a game music blog before (somewhere, right?), I'm here to tell you that you have at least one guaranteed reader.

On the topic of Rhythm Encounter, Stephen and Derek you guys need to release another episode or else Wild and I will just eat the whole thread!

Thanks for taking an interest in my post! No need to apologize about tardiness or length of response. You'd be surprise how often that happens when I read something on here; I begin writing a tome-ish reply, but end up deleting it all and writing "Yeah, lol." instead (the last post actually took me a couple of days to write/re-write.)  ;)

If you do have a slot in your class schedule, I do recommend taking the class, as it doesn’t require a background in music to fully enjoy it. You might be discomforted—perhaps even intimidated—at first if the class is taught by a music professor/others in the class are already musically informed, but stick to it and you’ll find that it is a very fascinating and thought-provoking class if you keep your mind open. Hey, if you ever need some help with some concepts/ideas in regards to classical music-film music relations, contact me on here and I’ll see if I can help you out to the best of my ability.

It’s actually interesting you mentioned the game music blog right after that, as this is one of the major my constructing of this blog: to assist students of various disciplines, as well the casual listener, with music related topics of various genres/eras/etc..

I hope to have the blog up and running by the end of August/middle of September, but I don’t have much for the site besides the menu options, appearance, and theme. I might end up pushing it until I feel I have enough content that can prove useful to the readers. Until then, I’ll see how it goes and perhaps poke around and let everyone know the status of the blog in the “What’s the Haps” thread, or a new topic entirely.

Other than that….let’s see a new episode here Rhythmr Encounter d00ds. ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on July 30, 2013, 12:50:59 AM
I'm on vacation for a few weeks (out of town), but we're working on it :) We've got two in the works, so don't you worry ABOUT DAT
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on August 14, 2013, 04:33:02 PM
Gonna weigh in here soon. Also we just recorded a new episode! Yay! Should be up in a few days :)_
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on August 14, 2013, 04:35:29 PM
Damn, im going on holiday tomorrow.. I will have to wait two weeks to listen to the new episode xD. Oh well, looking forward to listening to it in the future.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on August 20, 2013, 04:17:58 PM
SOMETHING APPROACHES
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Jotacon on August 21, 2013, 11:35:01 PM
Part 1: Kyle had the best picks overall.

Part 2: That Valdis Story song was incredible. How did I not know about this game?

Part 3: I played Kings Quest (I believe 4-6) when I was younger and all of my memories are either laughing at funny descriptions or getting frustrated at puzzles. I had no memory of the music and Princess Casima's theme is super good.

Part 4: No dissing Phil Collins. He was part of Genesis at their prime, a little while ago I posted A trick of the Tail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXqSEw3H_PI) in the Song of the moment thread. The whole album is great.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on August 22, 2013, 01:20:37 PM
Awesome to get another episode after a while. As always, keep up the superb work guys!

Also, YES! GIRL IN THE TOWER hahaha.

With regards to King's Quest, I think I have to agree, I sort of prefer this series because it defined my childhood in terms of computer gaming. In someways I prefer them to the LucasArts Adventures. That being said, I need to play through 5 and 6 again, since those are by far my favourites. I too must have beaten 6 every which way.  I knew couldn't have been the only one who obsessed over trying to figure out the minute details of the puzzles.

The CD version of KQVI had a special feature video that described the making of KQVI, and I think they showed this music video in it. Too bad the song never took off hahaha.

I remember thinking at the time even though I was what...11/12? that the Girl in the Tower song was very apropos in terms of it's soft rock/ballad sound considering songs that came out for movies like Robin Hood Prince of Thieves and Disney's the Three Musketeers with the same sort of soft rock/ballad song done by Bryan Adams...or is that just me? I mean I always thought it fit in nicely with that historical fiction genre type of movie/game soundtrack music.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Alhizzy on August 22, 2013, 08:42:28 PM
That Valdis Story song was pretty cool, watched the movie on the kickstarter page, and the game looks like a must have for me... love the metroidvania formula.

To quote John from a recent podcast, "I HAVE A PENIS!", so I'm not your girl Derek :P   
Chris would've been my pick for the strong female characters feature thing though back in the day, I think she's one of the best developed characters in the Suikoden series.

In terms of future suggestions, I'd really like to hear your guys' thoughts on Key Plus Words from the Persona 4 Animation.  I think that's my favorite song in the series, which really says a lot since those games got some crazy awesome music.  Thrilled about the idea of an intro themes show, I already know what some of those picks will be!  <cough>..Time's...<cough>...Scar
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on August 26, 2013, 02:12:15 PM
Omg im so hyped for the upcoming rythm encounter. An entire episode with Ys Music...Awesome.
On another note, I managed to listen to the western rpg episode recently, I was really surprised with the quality of say the witcher songs(Ye I havent had a chance to play them yet). Some good stuff I had no idea about but still in terms of pure musical content it's my least favourite(It was still fantastic dont get me wrong)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on August 26, 2013, 02:21:37 PM
Jotacon:

NO I HAD THE BEST PICKS IT WAS ME

AND KQ is amazing. And I also kinda like Phl Collins.

ultra:

Yes to everything you said. And thanks for the compliments!

Alhizzy:
Yeah, same here. Loved the Valdis Story demo and OST. The composer is a super nice guy, he heard about the music show and listened and had good things to say. Anyone that can spare two hours for the show is awesome in my book ;)

And I will have to check out that song. I've seen the P4 animation, but I don't remember the song. I think an intro theme should would be fantastic and... scarring of my time.

holykael:
Just remember-- it's not a Ys episode, it's a Falcom one :) But you won't be disappointed. There's some Ys in there, for your Ysy listening pleasure. And thanks for listening-- I definitely think western music can (in some cases) be a different beast, but we definitely wanted to make sure everyone saw that there's some great stuff in there that is unlike what you hear in Japanese-styled games. Also I adore Witcher music. Check out The Path of the Kingslayer and Howl of the White Wolf from TW2. Fantastic music.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on August 26, 2013, 04:08:33 PM
Falcom is awesome overall, I dont mind.
All Falcom music has a very characteristic feel, from Ys or not Im sure it will rock!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on August 26, 2013, 04:54:51 PM
Falcom is awesome overall, I dont mind.
All Falcom music has a very characteristic feel, from Ys or not Im sure it will rock!

You are correct. ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on August 28, 2013, 09:55:30 PM
We promised the music show today.

I am breaking that promise, because I hate words.

Not true, but expect it on Friday/Saturday, instead. I've been quite busy with some things, and I don't want the editing to suffer. Rest assured, this will be our biggest and possibly best (if you love Falcom, that is) show yet.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Darilon on August 31, 2013, 04:18:29 PM
Really liked the episode. I love Deionarra's Theme from Planescape Torment. I am a bit ashamed that out of an episode dedicated to western rpgs, my favourite song played was the Tina/Terra theme.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on August 31, 2013, 04:59:58 PM
In all honesty, that cover of Terra's theme was amazing. So FEEL NO SHAME.

And of course, thanks for listening! Glad you enjoyed it! We're hoping to have the next one out tonight or tomorrow-- but DEFINITELY by Monday.

It is the literal opposite of a western theme show, which tickles me.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: kofvscapcom on September 01, 2013, 12:02:12 AM
laboring on labor day. if it's super eastern music you're after, Yoko Shimomura has that song from live a live(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RATIJTenY8g). Or maybe that's cause the section of the gamehas you training kung fu on the top of a mountain. Also can't decide if the world map theme from Ni no Kuni is that eastern.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Cetra Blues on September 04, 2013, 04:45:36 AM
WARNING: TL:DR POST INCOMING


So I am a terrible fan and let a number of episodes slip by me... but then I woke up today, said "F@*% THAT!" and played a game of catch up. So here are my poorly-organized thoughts on the episodes I've missed out on 'til now!

Episode 5 - Ormond Alliance

I listened to this one back when it was recorded in May, so it's not quite as fresh in my mind. Still, it was really interesting to get a musician's insight on these tracks. Casey was awesome to hear on the show (I really like his accent ︶▽︶). Also, I agree completely with Stephen that when I think of Tactics, I think of Trisection. What a powerful song. It definitely engraved itself in my mind as the 'unofficial theme' of Tactics.

I really need to go back and finish Vagrant Story. All I remember from that game is the first dungeon (and thus, I freaking love Catacombs. Used to turn on the game and put Ashley somewhere safe just so I could listen to it while drawing or doing homework). 

Episode 6 - Summer Chill

Strange that town themes are what usually give us that summer vibe, but I guess that's just how it is, huh? So glad Besaid Island was chosen, that song really gives me the warm fuzzies (no pun intended). Such good memories and yes, it definitely conjures images of summer in my mind without fail.

Stephen once again restores my faith in humanity by demonstrating his love for Chrono Cross. Good god, I love that game and I CAN'T AGREE MORE - it really is the 'summer of RPG's'. So many beautiful sunny/ocean-y locations to be found throughout El Nido. The soundtrack and visuals of the game compliment each other perfectly.

My favorite discovery in this episode has to be The Island Left Behind. It just feels so springy, airy and carefree. Perfectly fitting for the episode's theme but more than that, it's just... I don't know! It put me in a really good mood. If this track is an example of the greatness of Nayuta no Kiseki's soundtrack, I think I may have to hear more.

Oh, and I'm super stoked you guys got a chance to bring up that goofy ass song from Resident Evil DX. I was seriously laughing to myself. 

Episode 7 - Don't Tease the Octopus!

Man, what an awesome one this turned out to be. Great picks overall. I can't say enough how much I share your guys' enthusiasm for boss fights; more often than not, they're the highlight on many a soundtrack and the choices presented here showcased some of the best boss tunes in gaming.

Also, once again mad props to Stephen for hardcore repping Chrono Cross. Because seriously, if you don't like that game (or at the very least, its soundtrack), you are wrong. If I should ever get the opportunity, let me buy you a beer, dude.

I'm sad to say that while I haven't played any of its games, the Ys tracks really stood out to me, holy $@&*ing balls. Right after listening to this episode I immediately had to go and download them. Sorry Rob & Stephen, but Vacant Interference is the mad notes. So, so good!

Finally, Rob's choice to conclude this episode was great. Love me some FF7 and I agree that when looked at closer, Jenova really is a terrifying enemy. The final encounter with her really exemplified this.

Episode 8 - An Evening with Aivi

It's so cool you guys can get such awesome talent on the show! I wasn't familiar with Aivi Tran before but I feel like now that's about to change. On top of sounding adorable (and modest!), she really seems passionate and enthusiastic about what she does. Even better that some of her earlier influences/motivations include Koji Kondo and Bomberman 64 (really, I was sold after her story about obtaining the soundfont)!

Lonely Rolling Star is definitely my favorite Katamari song, so hearing her take on it was a real treat. Wonderful stuff!

Oh, and Aivi, if you should happen to start writing death metal... I'll be the first in line to hear it.

Episode 9 - Wild Wild West

♪HERE IN THE TOWWW-EERRRR♪

Gotta' be honest, I was iffy going into this episode because, yeah, JRPG's are my comfort zone. To be honest, I haven't really played a western RPG (at least, not to completion)... so I wasn't expecting much. Imagine my surprise, then, that a number of these tracks really impressed me. My faves have to be Puppet Show, Life and Death (Main Theme) and Witendon. My attraction to these songs, I think, is due to what they all share in common- each of them seem to possess this enigmatic beauty to them. I think Kyle described Witendon as making him feel slightly melancholy and whimsical and that's more or less how I felt when listening to it. All of them were great, slightly unsettling tunes that I had to give another listen to.

Stephen's story about his father and King's Quest gave me a nerdy sense of happiness. Little things like that are always such a joy to hear and relate to on the show.

Also Derek, if you had told me one of our parks were built by Nickelodeon as a kid, I probably would have believed you!

Anyway, one thing that never seems to change is the easy-going vibe I get when listening to you guys. It's seriously like I can picture you just sitting on a couch on a Saturday night, just picking out these songs, giving 'em a listen and then talking them over. Whether you share similar opinions or disagree with one another, it always remains laid-back and fun. I'm not gonna' lie, I'm jealous! Rhythm Encounter seems like a blast to record. =) Keep up the honkin' good work, fellas.

(Oh, and if we can't get a full Chrono Cross episode, how about one that explores all three games in the series? Trigger, Radical Dreamers and Cross? Yeah? Yeeaaahh? ;D)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Embryon on September 04, 2013, 01:58:19 PM
Blues,

Wow. So many detailed comments... I can't tell you how happy it makes me to see them. My replies will be far less descriptive, but:

5 - Yes, Casey is both smart and sexy. Err, what? Seriously, though, Ivalice has so much richness in its musical score and history. I can't get enough of that world. I'm surprised you feel so favorably after your experiences with ass-kicking chocobos... ;D

6 - Yay for Chrono Cross, and I'm super glad you liked the track from Nayuta no Kiseki. We're actually playing another track from it on the next episode, too!

7 - This episode was a blast. Vacant Interference is, in fact, the bee's knees (almost as much as Mint Chocolate Chip). I got so include so many Falcom tracks, haha. But not as many as the upcoming episode...!

8 - Aivi's humility really is endearing, isn't it? Speaking with her was such a joy.

9 - I, too, was a bit apprehensive going into this episode, but there really are many great examples of WRPG music-- you just have to dig a little for them.

Thank you so much for listening! 次のエピソド、お楽しみに!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on September 04, 2013, 05:08:28 PM
And if you liked the Aivi interview, we have another interview coming soon that might just quack you up.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on September 30, 2013, 03:02:31 PM
Has Final Fantasy XIV anything to do with the big delay on the podcast? Just curious xD
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on September 30, 2013, 04:08:14 PM

actually, just so everyone knows we are still alive:

The podcast is definitely coming this week. I've been swamped with graduate work, applications to work, piano lessons, and regular job work-- could I have taken the time I spend after relaxing with FFXIV and finished the show? Probably yes, but I didn't want to force editing when I wasn't feeling it, because why release a lackluster show?

so, you'll definitely see the episode this week, and we are already planning the next. FEAR NOT! My apologies to everyone for the delay.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on October 08, 2013, 01:14:07 AM
IT IS HERE AND GO LISTEN
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on October 09, 2013, 05:26:53 AM
This episode was AWESOME!
I really want to play Xanadu Next and Zwei II now(Though I had already read Tom's Posts on Xseedgames forums where he gushes about them aswell).
There was not a single track in this episode I didnt like, Falcom music is amazing.
I would have picked a version of Silent Desert of Ys Origin(outside of the obscure picks), I love both the Super Arrange and the regular version of that track.

My favourite tracks from this episode were:

Into the Castle from Dinossaur Ressurection, it gives off a very weird mood, making Dinossaur Ressurection seem like a very bizarre game and a very interesting one aswell. i think this track would totally fit in a streets of rage game for whatever reason.

Snowbound Sacred Mountain from Nayuta no kiseki was my favourite of the bunch, what an incredible track... Awesome stuff. It feels very much so like something that would be created for an Ys game.

D.A.Y/B.R.E.A.K/ - I share the same feelings as Stephen on this one track, just an awesome opening theme

You guys need to have Ice Ridge of Noltia from Ys I and II Chronicles in an episode someday.. That song is incredible.




Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on October 09, 2013, 02:34:55 PM
Well, now I may want to revisit the Legend of Heroes PSP games.  Was not expecting this feeling to happen, ever. 
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on October 10, 2013, 12:07:56 PM
still listening to this episode and just at the part where you guys talk about Sorcerian and Brandish IV.

Since we are on the topic of Falcom, did the Korean remake by Mantra for Ys II (known as Ys II Special) contain any different music? I remember playing it as a kid and then comparing the gameplay to the actual Ys II and the difference was night and day....

update:

finally finished the episode...wow there's some awesome stuff...some of it is just so...invigorating...it makes me want to play Ys now.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on October 20, 2013, 04:23:08 PM
Unfortunately, ultra, I'm not sure. That would be a better question for Derek, or even Tom since he's the expert :)

And yeah, some totally rad music.

IN OTHER NEWS:

We a recording an episode tonight that should be available for your Halloween pleasure.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on October 27, 2013, 08:07:31 PM
THE NIGHTMARE CONTINUES

http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2013/1886.html
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Giga_Force on October 27, 2013, 10:24:59 PM
Amazing! I almost cried hearing "Souls of Fire". The game is almost two years old, but it's so haunting, yet beautiful. 
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on October 28, 2013, 06:26:40 PM
Oh God KQV...Dat track...

Thanks for drudging up my childhood nightmares.
That forest gave me the chills so bad.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on October 29, 2013, 06:29:45 PM
Yeah, Souls of Fire is crazy good. Dark Souls music in general is just so incredibly well-suited to the game, but most of it is so intense and dark that those few peaceful songs are that much more potent.

And no problem ultra, getting killed by the damn witch made me rage out so hard. When I finally finished that section, I was like 'THAT'S RIGHT I'M THE BOSS,' so if you can imagine a 5 year old yelling at the computer screen and jumping on the chair, that would be me.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on October 29, 2013, 10:12:27 PM
Dude, that King Moogle Mog song has the melody from Mog's theme in FF VI in it.  It's especially evident at the end of your sample, where there aren't any lyrics. 

SLAM-Dancing Moogle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5UeEUdPiMg)

Also, yeah, you're right.  The song sounds like the lost Moogle-themed track from The Nightmare Before Christmas.  With a sprinkling of Tenpei Sato. 
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on October 30, 2013, 08:02:20 PM
Dude, that King Moogle Mog song has the melody from Mog's theme in FF VI in it.  It's especially evident at the end of your sample, where there aren't any lyrics. 


Utterly and completely mindblown..
Currently listening to the episode, just reached this king moogle mog part, going to post my final thoughts once I finish it.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on October 31, 2013, 04:45:11 PM
Great episode guys as usual.
Im a bit disappointed at the lack of more Castlevania tbh xD. I played the whole xenosaga trilogy back to back for the first time this year earlier in the summer and it was incredible.. I know it may be hard to believe but I liked episode 2 more than 1, better soundtrack, story and character development. I was not a fan of the change in the art direction but at the end of the day that is a rather inconsequential detail, I really liked the battle system though I missed the customization and the flashyness of episode 1. Episode 3 perfected everthing, soundtrack, battle system, story, mech battles.. Tbh it's easily among my top 5 all time favourite Rpg's. With that said, Albedo fit perfectly in this episode, great choice.

Some of my personal picks for the Halloween/Fall Season would be:
- Black Dream from Chrono Trigger - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfi_F4YPA6s
- Omega System Xenosaga 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AzKwVALPJU
And tons of castlevania music xD but I would single out - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYwS6481oQk
Cmon guys ! Where is Quietus?! Or for that matter any other song from 999, that game has a super creepy atmospheric soundtrack(though only a masterpiece if you played the game)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: EndofPi on November 04, 2013, 08:43:36 PM
I just wanted to say that before listen to the podcast I took a lot of the music forgranted. Most of time while playing a game I would be listening to a podcast or an audio book. Now, not so much, instead I try to embrace the atmosphere of the game unless big grind. So once again thanks. BTW just started Puppeteer. I know its a platformer but the music is superb and its apparently done by someone who worked on a bunch of movies like Harry Potter.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Darilon on November 16, 2013, 06:55:50 PM
Just caught up today. Great podcast as usual. Haven't played much of the games listed but the music was fantastic. Weird listening to game music without knowing the context it was in.


Cmon guys ! Where is Quietus?! Or for that matter any other song from 999, that game has a super creepy atmospheric soundtrack(though only a masterpiece if you played the game)

I can't really remember much of the soundtrack from 999. I absolutely love Morphogenic Sorrow but none of the rest really stuck with me. I think Quietus is ok but feel it doesn't stand as strong listening to it outside of the game. Same thing seems to happens with a lot of my favourite game music :(

Edit: Just reread the second half of my post and it seems kind of douchy. Didn't mean for it to have that kind of tone to it :(
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on November 16, 2013, 09:10:50 PM
You're all good! We appreciate you all listening.

Sorry I haven't been as on top of replies lately, folks-- end of the semester and applying to post-grad programs and stuff has kept me very busy. I'm definitely reading everything you all say though, and I couldn't be more grateful for you listening!

I actually think 999 and VLR have excellent in-game soundtracks, but outside of the game some of them are less "listenable." I don't say that as a "this is bad" but in that they're so dependent on their context for their full impact to be heard. Morphogenetic Sorrow and Blue Bird Lamentation work great outside of the game, but I agree that they're not quite as easy to pick out out of the game.

New episode coming very soon! We've recorded half of it :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on November 17, 2013, 05:41:53 AM
Ye perhaps you are right but I still argue that there are a few standout tracks that are pretty good without context besides blue bird lamentation and Morphogenetic Sorrow and any consequent variant like the end credit piano version renmix of Virtue's Last Reward. I would argue that for example quietus doesnt need context, it has a very sinister and creepy vibe wether you played the game or not and it's rocking cool.
Apart from that:
Binary Game - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_BLhvyZA2I
The Monitor - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1yVqJA3u4Y
Placidity - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWa1j9VHRrc
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on January 21, 2014, 06:53:01 PM
It's been a long time, but our latest episode is now posted.

Enjoy time-travel-centric themes for nearly three hours. :]

Don't forget to email us submissions for Music of the Year podcast, and of course rate and review us on iTunes!

Also, in 2014, be on the lookout for a newer format for the show-- shorter episodes (1 to 1.5 hours), but more frequently. It's a bit too much of a tax on my time these days to get our megasodes out in a timely fashion, so we're switching to this format. Be sure to give us feedback and let us know what you think about that change, so we can keep improving the show to match what you want to hear!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on January 21, 2014, 07:23:44 PM
What are the rules for this music of the year podcast? Does it have to be music released in that year or something?
Gonna listen to the podcast tomorrow while I study for Algebra!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on January 21, 2014, 09:19:15 PM
Well, we'll accept both. If there's something we didn't play from music that became available in 2013, feel free to send that. Otherwise, we're taking general requests too. Be sure to send a reason why you'd like us to play that song, too, so we have something to say about it when we say why you picked it.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: kofvscapcom on January 22, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
how can you forget Johnny Jones from Mario RPG? he's an honorable shark pirate that challenges mario to a 1 on 1 duel
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on January 23, 2014, 04:35:30 AM
The only appropriate response is that I should replay Mario RPG.  :]

Also-- EndofPi, sorry I never replied, but nothing makes me happier than to hear you're appreciating the tunes in games more! That's quite literally our goal! Thanks a ton for your feedback!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on January 23, 2014, 07:29:53 AM
I loved the new episode of the podcast but I was kinda disappointed we didnt see any Ghost Trick tracks since that game just fits the theme perfectly. it would have been cool atleast to hear the classic Main Theme. Was really happy to see some FF8 love though.
Otherwise I have no complaints whatsoever and I am hoping you guys can find more excuses in the future to include more Chrono Cross tracks ahah.

Im just gonna go ahead and kill two birds with one stone here and send my picks for the music of the year thing.
As far as 2013 releases go these would be my personal favourites:(mostly Ys Celceta stuff ahah)


Morning after the Storm - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnm5vUI7EC8 - This track is fucking amazing, the end.
Ancient Land - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ux3xl6Zdv4 - A perfect kickass track to pump you up for combat.
Dawn of Ys - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY9XD1zhi2I - More badassery
Ancient Legend - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2wnBGSe9hw - This track is your classic mystery mystical town theme with a slow buildup but a very beautiful melody

And finally something Non-Ys - Hope and Future on the same page - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFQoEP3d3pI - beautiful conclusion to the sombre heart wrenching tale of insanity, death and sacrifice of Soul Sacrifice with this vocal track.

For a non 2013 suggestion:
Im just gonna limit myself to 1 suggestion because then I would be here all day listing stuff.

Crystal Teardrops(Castlevania SOTN) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWwJEQt90qk - I think this track fully encompasses the amazing atmosphere present in Symphony of the Night, this is a type of track that only top composers manage to pull off. Truly memorable.



Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on January 23, 2014, 07:37:27 AM
Just saying, the ultimate missed opportunity from the most recent episode: Stephen understands (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxNkAIf2Rcs). 
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Alhizzy on February 22, 2014, 11:35:12 PM
Been awhile since I posted suggestions.  For some reason or other people have been using the word "terrible" a lot lately, which always reminds me of Charles Barkley, so... there's a really interesting song from Barkley Shut-up and Jam Gaiden called Eternity that I'd recommend for the show.  It's bonkers and doesn't fit the game at all, which is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRpw-8vxZag (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRpw-8vxZag)

I've also been playing Might and Magic X Legacy lately, and I like a couple of songs from it (unfortunately none of the battle themes came with the deluxe edition's soundtrack though <sniffles> )

I can at least link the main theme which I think is pretty good.  I'll also link a gameplay footage video that has the boss theme in it, since I think it's a pretty darn good boss theme.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3yBUYFwrho (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3yBUYFwrho)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHSroBiqxOI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHSroBiqxOI)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arklight on February 23, 2014, 12:13:32 PM
Phew, this is my first time posting suggestions; I better make a decent impression!

For the "best of 2013" spiel, I honestly feel like even though there were some good releases this year, I feel like 2013 was better for arrangement CDs than it was for official soundtrack releases, especially considering Falcom's Zanmai Albums, the first (and FANTASTIC) Project Destati release, and the Chrono Trigger Orchestral Rearrangement CDs came out this year.

As for official releases however, allow me to put forward a few of my favorite tracks of the year. This is going by VGMDB's release year and not year of game release or release in America.

"Don't Speak her Name!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdMS2eUaqsY
and ID~Purpose http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bio99hoZVYI from Fire Emblem Awakening

Jubilife City http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7CM6WYh-N0
and Snowbelle City http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYObC_LRETk from Pokemon X/Y

Don't Be Defeated by a Friend! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-75vj2HEJE
and Enormous Inner Strength http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDXr9IlX_Yc from Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki

That's it for my 2013 faves, but I'll wrap this post up with a track I feel would've fit in perfectly with the last topic as there IS Time Travel in this game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98tdUZ-JRCg
Le Ali Del Principio from Baten Kaitos II/Origins is simply a hauntingly beautiful piece that shows that even though his work has gotten stale in recent years, Motoi Sakuraba at his best one of my top composers.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on February 23, 2014, 01:12:38 PM
Monsoon is right, Stephen understands. :]

Sorry we've been quiet lately-- working on *cough* something I think you music-lovers will enjoy.

Al, I'm actually quite impressed by those M&MX tracks. I've wanted to play that for a while, because I'm a big fan of the genre. Those videos you linked sounded cool-- and the game looked like something I'd enjoy, too! Also, I can't tell if you're joking about Eternity or not, but that's my favorite joke song ever. It's from Blue Dragon, and it's sung by Ian Gillam from Deep Purple :D It's definitely bonkers and fun to listen to though. Editor Brian Tomlinson has nightmares related to this song, maybe you can get him to tell you why sometime.

Arklight--
I get sad the more I hear FE:A's OST, because I disliked the game so much but the music is SO GOOD. I love both of those that you linked. We've already got some FE:A in the upcoming episode(s), but I'll see about getting one more of yours in the audience section ;) Also, I was really surprised by that Sen no Kiseki track-- that IS ridiculous epic. Another listener, Retta (I'm listening to your picks, I promise!) sent me a ton of Sen no Kiseki tracks, and I have to say I've been more than impressed (and not just Falcom-impressed) by what I've heard from it. I might have to try it out sometime. I was a big fan of that Snowbelle City track, too.

(Also BK:O all of the time!)

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Reta on February 23, 2014, 11:01:02 PM
I might have to try it out sometime.

That's great, but you can't get into the series with Sen. The order is FC > SC > 3rd > Zero > Ao > Sen > Sen II. The stories are heavily intertwined and playing them out of order just isn't possible, except for Nayuta, which is a spinoff that has no ties to the main series.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on March 10, 2014, 01:41:48 PM
You guys have been neglected.

http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2014/1256.html

Not anymore. Check back every day this week for awesome music-related content, and for parts 1 through 3 of the biggest (7 hours!) Rhythm Encounter ever.

Your picks will be in part 3, so definitely listen to that one for shoutouts and listener's choice. This first ep has Don from Square Enix Music Online and Mac from RPGamer, along with some new and old RPGFan editors!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on March 10, 2014, 02:03:09 PM
One of my picks was also one of the Editor's picks, Im already excited.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on March 10, 2014, 05:48:42 PM
whooo, opened up my podcast app, and there was the new episode!

I really hope Girl in the Tower makes a second appearance....
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Embryon on March 10, 2014, 06:12:42 PM
whooo, opened up my podcast app, and there was the new episode!

I really hope Girl in the Tower makes a second appearance....

STAHP IT
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on March 11, 2014, 12:06:33 PM
What is the name of that track near the end of first podcast? It's a piano track, and I think it's from Drakengard 3, but I couldn't find a clear reference to the title of the track.

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on March 11, 2014, 12:08:40 PM
Is that the one that our guest Don picked?

15 - Piano Track for the Sake of Ethics / Drag-on Dragoon III

?

EDIT

And FYI, if you missed it, the tracklist is included on the Music Week feature page:

http://www.rpgfan.com/features/Music_of_the_Year_2013/Rhythm_Encounter_First_Movement.html
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on March 11, 2014, 12:34:17 PM
Is that the one that our guest Don picked?

15 - Piano Track for the Sake of Ethics / Drag-on Dragoon III

?

EDIT

And FYI, if you missed it, the tracklist is included on the Music Week feature page:

http://www.rpgfan.com/features/Music_of_the_Year_2013/Rhythm_Encounter_First_Movement.html

Ah yes, this it. What a great piece!

Hah totally forgot about the show notes.

Thanks!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on March 11, 2014, 12:39:38 PM
Sure thing!

And yeah, I really enjoyed that track. Part of the strength of Drag-on III is how varied the soundtrack is-- so much so that I actually FORGOT about that track until Don reminded me it existed.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on March 16, 2014, 08:18:07 PM
Listened to all of them except for the final movement, and have enjoyed them all quite a bit.  Well done, fellas. 

Also have to say: of all the RPGFan staff and guests who had picks for the show, my favorites were John's.  Now I really want to DL a copy of The Raven. 
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on March 16, 2014, 08:23:27 PM
Stoked you're enjoying them! Hopefully you like part three as well :D

And yeah, Tooker's picks were really great. The Raven is a great soundtrack (and by all accounts a great game), so wins all around :D
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on March 16, 2014, 09:11:39 PM
Thanks, both!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arklight on March 16, 2014, 11:47:49 PM
The next April Fools joke had BETTER involve Eternity. Somehow.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on March 18, 2014, 01:16:22 AM
Really enjoyed the user-submitted episode.  I heard really neat stuff from a few games that I have never played, never would have thought of playing, or even directly avoided playing.  My life is a lie now (just kidding; already kind of was a lie).  And I'm glad that the panelists seemed to enjoy the tracks I submitted! 
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dice on March 18, 2014, 01:34:33 AM
Won't lie I started to do some fist pumping to Three Minutes Clapping.(this without the sobbing (http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzEyL2YzL2Zpc3RwdW1wLmZlZWJmLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/80d8c90f/452/fist-pump.gif)).

Great episode.  kept me company while I was making notes today in school.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on March 19, 2014, 06:02:55 PM
Just finished listening to the last episode, and what a great series of tracks. It only amazes me how many of these songs get overlooked by the vast majority of gamers when they are pretty fantastic.

Awesome year end show guys. Really appreciate the hard work you guys put into it. Keep those episodes comin'!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on March 19, 2014, 06:27:21 PM
I want to reply to everyone and I will. Later tonight, of course 'D
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Reta on March 19, 2014, 09:08:40 PM
I really enjoyed your selections, as always, as well as the other features. It'll almost be hard to go back to the normal version of the podcast now...

I kind of wish I'd known you were actually accepting submissions of older songs; I would've more clearly specified that I especially like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1my5n9PpS0) song.* (It's one of my favorite final boss themes ever.)

*I don't like having to say this every time I mention this song, but, for spoiler reasons, don't search for it on your own if you have any intention to play any game in that series.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Perigryn on April 11, 2014, 12:40:52 PM
FINALLY got caught up on Rhythm Encounter and took in the Music of the Year epicness.

Great, great job, guys! So amusing, so fun, and loved the heartfelt passion that poured out of you, Stephen, at the very end. Also, sweet choice on Tiz's You Are My Hope special move music selection - definitely one of the best tracks in that game. Whenever I hear it, I get pumped! And everything else that was mixed in there too!

It's been a great year for you guys, and I sincerely look forward to many more episodes from you two, and whomever else get on board.

I may not always listen on time, and especially lately as I was going through some personal matters which, frustrating enough, kept me away from submitting selections to the MotY episode. But, at the same, it was because of the podcast and things that I was also able to befriend Derek, chat it up with Stephen, and eversobriefly rock some FFXIV with you guys.

Oh, and of course, experience some new exciting music and stuff, whatever. Like that's important in a music podcast... >.>

Seriously, though, thanks for putting in the time and effort you do and know that it is hugely appreciated! I loves me some video game music, and having a place where people share that passion is wonderful!

I force Chrono to raise a glass!
(http://www.videogamesprites.net/ChronoTrigger/Party/Crono/Crono%20-%20Drink.gif)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on April 13, 2014, 12:24:40 AM
Thanks, Perigryn!  A lot of folks put in work on that week's content - Stephen probably more than any of us.  We hope to be recording another episode very soon.  Just working out scheduling issues.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on April 25, 2014, 02:35:02 AM
New episode recorded. Expect it very soon :D
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dice on April 25, 2014, 02:40:44 AM
New episode recorded. Expect it very soon :D

yaaay!
:D
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on April 25, 2014, 08:39:32 AM
New episode recorded. Expect it very soon :D

Excellent!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on May 16, 2014, 07:00:19 PM
Listened to the cross over episode over yesterday and today, and that was pretty fun. The guys there do a solid Liquid Snake impression.

Subbed to that podcast as well since they seem to talk about game music. Overall it seems like there was a lot of overlap between theirs and subjects/songs that RE has talked about in the past.

It was interesting how they played their music in the background as opposed to just playing it. I prefer the RE method myself as it allows the listener to fully listen to the song.

That being said, I'm gonna go look up some tunes from the Scott Pilgrim game.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on May 24, 2014, 02:54:30 AM
Thanks for listening, ultra! It was a lot fun. They're good guys, too.

And yes, the Scott Pilgrim game's music was rad.

ALSO

EPISODE 13 IS LIVE

http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2014/1487.html
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on May 24, 2014, 08:33:17 AM
Wow that was fast! Cool.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on May 28, 2014, 08:34:25 PM
We're recording a new episode tonight-- it'll go up faster than the last one. This is our apology for the delay on ep13.

Thanks again to all of you for listening :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on May 29, 2014, 11:19:47 AM
Damn, those Secret of Evermore and Another Day's Work Jazzy tracks were amazing!
Featuring Morphogenetic Sorrow greatly pleases me xD. I love Shinji Hosoe's work.. All the games that I played in which he was the composer I absolutely loved the soundtracks. Xenosaga episode 2(I know it gets flack but I really really like that soundtrack even outside of the cutscenes, especially the more atmospheric tunes like Omega System, Old Miltia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y8toBvkRpc), Labyrinthos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUnM4ar94EY).. They remind me of 999's approach to creating atmosphere and they really resonate with me.) and ofc 999/VLR.

Will listen to the 2nd half of the episode another day and comment more if other tracks stand out for me.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on May 29, 2014, 11:24:54 AM
I also really like the non-cinematic music in Xenosaga 2. The reason we never get an OST, at least according to one of Game Music Online's interviews, is that fan reception to the music was so poor because it wasn't Mitsuda that Hosoe didn't think anyone wanted it.

BUT WE DO WANT IT.

Episode recording went great last night. I'll try to have it edited very soon for you all!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on May 29, 2014, 12:19:04 PM
Ended up finishing the episode.. Loved the old timey song from Fallout, it feels rather nostalgic because it's something that resembles what my father would have on the car during summer vacations.
I'm up for some Curtain Call talk.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Masakado on May 30, 2014, 11:25:03 AM
Ended up finishing the episode.. Loved the old timey song from Fallout, it feels rather nostalgic because it's something that resembles what my father would have on the car during summer vacations.

Everytime I hear that song it gives me such a 50s vibe and as an admirer of American history I sure love the 50s.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on May 30, 2014, 11:44:34 AM
I'm glad you liked it - we usually just include songs written for games, rather than a song like I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire, which already existed outside of the game... but when I had the chance to be on the sci-fi episode, I knew I had to include something from Fallout.  And that song is so iconic to Fallout that I couldn't imagine going with anything else. :)

Oh, and Masakado, you might like a group called Big Daddy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Daddy_(band)).  They mash up lyrics from more modern pop songs with tunes from the '50s.  I have their album Cutting Their Own Groove, and I really like it.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Masakado on May 30, 2014, 03:08:39 PM
Thanks, I will definitely check them out.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 05, 2014, 06:05:42 PM
Just finished editing episode 14. It should be live very soon (before E3).
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on June 06, 2014, 12:25:31 PM
On a sadder note:

http://www.esterior.net/2014/06/former-falcom-soundteam-jdk-member-wataru-ishibashi-dead-at-39-years-old/

RIP.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on June 06, 2014, 12:35:42 PM
Sad news indeed.. RIP.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on July 02, 2014, 01:20:41 PM
http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2014/1673.html

!!!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Reta on July 03, 2014, 12:39:40 PM
Lacks Corridor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKhHC3a8m1A)

Chokes me up every time
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Giga_Force on July 04, 2014, 11:19:29 AM
I've been listening to "World of Mana", since late 1999.  It's the perfect song to fall asleep to, in my opinion; Hearing those birds chirp in the song, just completely relaxes me. I remember in the Summer of 2000, I listened to this song, under a tree, during a bright, sunny day; I fell asleep within minutes.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on July 29, 2014, 02:02:11 PM
I've definitely fallen asleep to World of Mana in the past. What a great track. Also, three points of interest for you lovely listeners:

1) Derek is out of the country, but we recorded a guest episode to tide you over before he and I get started on MANY NEW EXCITING THINGS.

2) You're still welcome to enter the jingle-guessing contest. We're not going to do winners until we record our NEXT episode.

3) Stealing Rob's idea, if you all have any music topics or questions that you think would merit some interesting discussion, feel free to drop them in here!

New episode should be up in the next day or two!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on August 01, 2014, 02:57:36 PM
Listening to the podcast right now, not sure if it's just me but the volume overall seems lower than normal, especially during some tracks. It was especially noticable during To a Strange World. Otherwise, I always enjoy an overworld themed podcast! Great job.

edit: Hurr-durr I checked all volume settings except iTunes...Never mind, the volume is fine!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Holykael1 on August 02, 2014, 12:21:08 PM
This was a great episode.
You guys should have picked Underneath the Rotting Pizza ahah.
As far as some of other awesome town themes, fisherman's horizon and svadhisthana come to mind.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dice on August 02, 2014, 12:24:32 PM
Yeah a lot of great choices up on there with respect to town themes.  Loved it a lot. :)

I really love listening to these while I'm working on computer stuffs too.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arklight on August 03, 2014, 09:07:07 PM
Evergrace music episode?!









(Actually don't, okay)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Jotacon on August 06, 2014, 03:04:10 AM
These last two Podcasts have been so good. Good tracks, fun discussion. So, so good.

I will say, I can't believe we missed out on Blackmage Village. That is the first track I thought of when I heard you were doing town-themes. For a while I was pretty upset, but you totally made up for it by playing the Thames, the men of the sea. Thanks Caitlin!

I'm petitioning you guys for a Podcast centred around magic themes. Or weird monkey noises. Or... I just want Blackmage Village.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on August 06, 2014, 11:14:38 AM
Fabulous, I'm glad you all enjoyed it. Part of the benefit of doing episodes with shorter tracklists (aside from the fact that they're not really much shorter than they used to be, length-wise) is that we can get more "I wanted this track!" for the next time we cover a topic-- AND, it might give us an idea we wouldn't have otherwise had.

And hey, Evergrace has good music! :D

We have a ton of episodes planned right now, and I believe we'll have a musical guest very, very soon ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on August 07, 2014, 05:09:11 PM
Great episode!  Here's some of my favorite town music that wasn't already in the show:

Your Affection (Never More album version) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56-SiB5bJHs) - Persona 4
Boy Meets Girl (Twoson music) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKStdKMV8FY) - Earthbound
Wonder Castle (Holt Village music) - Disgaea 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZQ6aXj9HZw)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: DanSensei on August 08, 2014, 04:25:59 AM
Just finished listening to the new episode. Really great and makes me wanna try Grinsia, even though that song kinda steals the Song of Storms from Ocarina of Time at 0:12. It really does sound a lot like Chrono Trigger. I love when games have retro style soundtracks like this. In fact, I'm working on a game like that now, with a soundtrack done by me, but real life is being really horrible, bring up one problem after another. I hope I can solve them all soon and get back to this game.

Of course when I complete it, I have to find someone to make graphics so the whole thing is NES styled ;)

Anyway, I was kind of hoping to see Hometown from FF5 on there, since that's probably my favorite hometown track. Maybe too predictable though. If I was going obscure, probably Love Shining Inside from the Saturn version of Legend of Heroes: White Witch. They redid the game in a total anime style with FMVs and everything, likely trying to cash in on Lunar's audience, and even though it didn't get any of its sequels remade in the same style, that version is an underrated gem that's well worth checking out, especially if your experience with that game consists of the PSP port.

Really good call on Shining Force 2, though! That's still my favorite SRPG ever made, and the music is amazing!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on August 08, 2014, 11:32:50 AM
Great episode!  Here's some of my favorite town music that wasn't already in the show:

Your Affection (Never More album version) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56-SiB5bJHs) - Persona 4
Boy Meets Girl (Twoson music) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKStdKMV8FY) - Earthbound
Wonder Castle (Holt Village music) - Disgaea 2
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZQ6aXj9HZw)

Your Affection (every version) is amazing, and it has almost made it into the show a few times. Good call. I like those other two tracks, too! I'm not normally into Disgaea music, but I really like the quirky thing going on in that track. Definitely reminds me of the series, so they definitely have a charateristic 'vibe' in the music, which is definitely  a success.

DanSensei, you're working on a game right now? Making the music for it? I'm fascinated ;)

I do like FF5's soundtrack, too. I'm not super familiar with Legend of Heroes on Saturn, but I found a good JDK band arrangement of that track you mentioned. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybiir1c6xeU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybiir1c6xeU)). Definitely gives me a Lunar vibe.

Yeah, I love SF2. That game sure got me into a lot of things, and is certainly part of the reason I'm here today!

Thanks again to everyone for feedback and for listening! We've got two episodes being scheduled right now, featuring a composer guest! PLEASE LOOK FORWARD TO IT
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on August 19, 2014, 02:41:29 PM
New ep recorded and edited, coming very soon.

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on August 22, 2014, 12:52:08 PM
episode 16 is live. LISTEN TO US CHAT WITH SEAN SCHAFIANSKI, AND HEAR GOOD MUSIC.

ALSO we just hired a new co-host. Look out for the Rhythm Encounter duo to become a trio starting in episode 18. ;)

Also, I switched to new editing software, which has some great tools for reducing background noise and hiss. Please do let me know if you think this episode is an improvement (or a decline) in terms of quality!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on October 06, 2014, 03:48:03 PM
A few quick announcements regarding the show:

A) Derek's going to be stepping down as co-host for a while. Real life has a way of continuously devouring our time, and the good Hamburger is focusing on his studies. I hope all of you will join me in wishing him luck and thanking him for being a fantastic co-host for almost two years!

B) Our follow-up episode with Sean Schafianski is on hold for a bit, as Sean himself is quite busy. BUT

C) We've hired a new person whose voice you'll recognize if you've been following the show. This new person will be joining me as co-host as we forge ahead into a new beginning. Derek's shoes are too big to fill, and we won't even try to do so. Instead, we'll make new shoes to stand alongside them. Hurray!

D) We've recorded an episode, and I'm hoping to have it ready for you all by the end of the week. Please look forward to it, and what will slowly become a more regular release schedule, moving forward!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on October 08, 2014, 11:30:47 PM
Derek's shoes are too big to fill, and we won't even try to do so. Instead, we'll make new shoes to stand alongside them. Hurray!

My shoes are bigger! I mean, not my podcasting, metaphor shoes that you're talking about here. Just my literal, gigantic shoes that are on my actual feet. (They were even the highlight discussion at work today)

We all appreciate what Derek has done with the show, but we also didn't want to let the show flounder; He'll be missed, but we also hope you all stick with us and enjoy where the show goes from here. I'm going to be more involved with the show as well, which is why you're seeing a rare post from me of all people here.

The next episode is coming sooner than you may think - please let us know your thoughts!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Embryon on October 09, 2014, 11:12:56 AM
Derek's shoes are too big to fill, and we won't even try to do so. Instead, we'll make new shoes to stand alongside them. Hurray!

My shoes are bigger! I mean, not my podcasting, metaphor shoes that you're talking about here. Just my literal, gigantic shoes that are on my actual feet. (They were even the highlight discussion at work today)

We all appreciate what Derek has done with the show, but we also didn't want to let the show flounder; He'll be missed, but we also hope you all stick with us and enjoy where the show goes from here. I'm going to be more involved with the show as well, which is why you're seeing a rare post from me of all people here.

The next episode is coming sooner than you may think - please let us know your thoughts!

Are you sure? I wear size 13W. ;) And you know what they say-- big feet, big... love for RPGs.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: PaleRobbie on October 09, 2014, 11:21:46 AM
...8.5 over here. 
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on October 09, 2014, 12:06:54 PM
FIFTEEN, MOTHERFU... oh good, all staff members are derailing this topic. :D But yeah, I also have big love for RPGs.

I guess it's okay until the episode is out and there's something new to talk about.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on October 12, 2014, 12:02:59 AM
And you know what they say-- big feet, big... love for RPGs.

We actually talked about that on an episode that I was on!  Can't remember if it was Rhythm or Random Encounter.  But at the time, I thought it was "big feet, big... shoes."
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on October 20, 2014, 04:16:33 PM
Hey folks-- just FYI, I mentioned this in the episode, but feel free over the next few months to send us any requests you have for our music of the year audience picks segment. If you want to hear it, tell us! Doesn't have to be from this year (though that's of course welcome), just has to be something we haven't played before, as best as you can recall!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arklight on October 25, 2014, 02:36:18 PM
I'm not sure if it's too early to post my "best of 2014" suggestions, but I've got some time on my hands right now. So WHY NOT?

2013 was a bit quiet for soundtrack releases I felt, but 2014 picked it back up again! Like last time, my picks are based on vgmdb's album release year and not year of game release.

Battle b2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6cSbof7Pik) from Shin Megami Tensei IV

Mikazuchi (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxaCrib_qWo) and Class::XIO PROCEED (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9VIF_CWV2s) (FOR REAL, THIS FRICKIN' SONG, MAN) from Ar nosurge

Clouds Flying (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YEI2UUIW-g) and Sweep! ~Part 1~ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54wTIc9P4eM) from Atelier Shallie

~Disturbances~ The One Called from Beyond (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMxKsnGIiNM) and Footsteps of Time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd50-MO6Kac) from Persona Q

Things have Started Moving (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9mJr6th5Ac) and Unfathomed Force (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrMbKBQqK1s) from The Legend of Heroes: Ao no Kiseki Evolution

Finally, for my one "not from '14" track, here's Glorious Fights We Call Life (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-7yEqTP4Qs) from Yoko Shimomura's very own Last Ranker. PSP? More like RIP!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on October 25, 2014, 02:41:14 PM
Not too soon at all-- we're looking for requests for music of the year. 2014 releases are good, as are ANYTHING ELSE you want to hear. :)

SMTIV boss theme so goooood. Also I need to get some ar nosurge on the show, what a rad soundtrack.

also YES LAST RANKER
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Rucks on October 28, 2014, 01:19:44 PM
I've been (very) slowly working my through your track listings on YouTube.  Sorry I haven't really listened to any of the actual podcasts.... The music is great to workout to though! 

I do have one comment:  I am a bit miffed that you've yet to touch on my two favorite tracks (not from a Ys game).  The opening theme to FFVI (especially the part where Biggs, Wedge and Terra are marching in the snow towards Narshe) and then Narshe's theme itself (aka, The Mines of Narshe).  I was always so impressed by how much sound Nobuo was able to make with only 16 bit devices (or, more accurately, how closely sound programmers were able to replicate Nobuo's original scores).

http://youtu.be/jgRZAGQPJVY  (http://youtu.be/jgRZAGQPJVY) - opening

http://youtu.be/5fnTJ5SF2uM (http://youtu.be/5fnTJ5SF2uM) - MoN

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on October 29, 2014, 12:45:17 AM
Don't worry, there's no lack of FFVI love amongst our hosts. I was actually really close to picking a song from it for our upcoming episode, but went with choices that fit our theme better.

Trust us, it's a constant struggle to try and be diverse and choose songs that fit each episode's theme and not just toss out all our personal favorites - otherwise I personally would have wedged Terra's theme in there by now. :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Reta on November 07, 2014, 12:26:46 PM
My picks for 2014, though I admittedly didn't play many newer games this year, so I'm sure I'm missing a lot of good stuff:

I take no responsibility for any spoilers in the thumbnails of any related videos; be careful if you care about that

Ao no Kiseki Evolution (my #1 pick overall) (Falcom JDK)
Aoki Shizuku (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG-avnQJP2I)
Traces of D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUN1dTUxif8)
Omen of Disaster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xrgv7AHXdN4)
Silence in the Sunlight Filtering Through the Trees (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zuEVGbDZP4)
Omen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dO5juaMLo0)
Feelings in the Moonlight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI04ZeHx9uc)
Catastrophe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htKWs_WMWww)
Dark Throne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J3M6BE7edA)
Delusion of a Thousand Years (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf6BHb-_-G8)
Descent of the God's Machine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WllU3I1sGmA)
Steel Roar -Threat- (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5aJ-m6AOKk)
Energetic Beasts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuYpCugmnm0)
Destruction Impulse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da8jVpGd4wA)
Beyond the Paradise of Lies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9WOKQcNAfg)
Wavering Heart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7Q3eGZNrdM)
Mystic Core (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKIHOMFiRW0)
The Tree at the Farthest End (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3quwh3niv0)
The Truth of the Rainy Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNJRRRwkZRE)
Unfathomed Force (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrMbKBQqK1s)
The Azure Arbitrator (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGRVJWsJAL0)*1
True Bonds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHyueECxbDs)
And Yet, Here We Are (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rtQ2te08kA)*2
I Pray for You - Aoi Kiseki (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdErarG0B4U)

Sen no Kiseki Super Arrange (Falcom JDK)
Aria -Holy Saint, Holy Spirit- (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XhwxzcT3jA)
Belief (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK8ZSaB7Xy0)
The Decisive Collision (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe4i_qngwQA)

Sen no Kiseki II (Falcom JDK)
Senkou no Yukue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NgxUPkiCp0)
Ash-Colored History (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opqekHy-SdQ)
Forward With Determination (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDnS5UOgjVc)
Heated Mind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdXTdgzVbnE)
Awakening (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waamjQaO0cQ)
Awakening Will (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeH2v95Bb6A) (compare to Sora no Kiseki the 3rd's 'The Final Choice')
Blue Destination (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFPwwB4YwSk)
Phantasmal Blaze (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CelGJrFyIs)
To A Glimmering Tomorrow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf3yFLySTl8)

Child of Light (Cœur de pirate aka Béatrice Martin)
"Battle Theme 3" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBFGtrKFm0)
Hymn of Light (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNt_90Kt4xA)
Off to Sleep (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuy_FRk7LNQ)

Dai-3-ji Super Robot Taisen Z: Jigoku-hen (Super Robot Wars Z3) (Arranger(s) unclear, original composers/artists below)
Beyond the Time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os7G8WDyuro) (TM NETWORK)
Sorairo Days (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCTqJPsG1D0) (Shoko Nakagawa)
Pierce the Heavens with your XXX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eejqdIVe-Wk) (Taku Iwasaki)
Bataille Décisive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgkkZqReNwA) (Shiro Sagisu)

Final Fantasy X HD
Movement in Green/Sprouting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA_89fpH3nU) (Composed and arranged by Junya Nakano)
Besaid Island (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvK90o7GX3Y) (Composed and arranged by Masashi Hamauzu)
Phantoms (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD4iVV6bxb4) (Composed and arranged by Junya Nakano)
Seymour Battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjDvosAj6ow) (Composed by Nobuo Uematsu, arranged by Uematsu and Tsutomu Narita)

Rise of Mana
Believe in the Spirit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUxTFhBz_Rg) (KOKIA)
The Drip Drip Drip of Memory (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iVHYQoIYxY) (Hiroki Kikuta)

Kingdom Hearts 2.5 ReMIX (Yoko Shimomura)
Darkness of the Unknown (part 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKGHpO5Pnqo)

My non-2014 picks:

Legend of Mana (Yoko Shimomura)
Song of Mana (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1z9PFZQSLU)
Siren's Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhV0bdlqibk)
The Darkness Nova (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elu5LoFiiXE)
Irwin on Reflection (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_bUAQvOk0Q)
City of Flickering Destruction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xevd898bCyg)
...of the Tear-Colored Radiance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiK6YSTvPaQ)

Rondo of Swords (Atsushi Fukase)
"BGM 06" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vkN9iHxTsg)

Sol Trigger (GainGuage/binarylovers.com/STUDIO QAREEB/various others)
"Boss Battle 01" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoBTgToe0nk)
"Boss Battle 03" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlYFloQ75WA)
"Boss Battle 06" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFt6DuKx_SU)

Saigo no Yakusoku no Monogatari (Akiyoshi Manabe)
VS Leclaire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqfbfu0CbNA)

Sora no Kiseki (Trails in the Sky) the 3rd (Falcom JDK)
Jade Corridor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1czanyhcjk)
Genuine Devil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pi7EYSOnlc)
Cradle Where Thoughts Rest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0BB4BOHsrE)
Maze of Light and Shadow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mf0rVeu9s4)
A House in the Violet Garden (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qftaq-LL4F4)
Reminiscence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxRYIhjVG_Y)
Overdosing Heavenly Bliss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jHlbY86HtY)
The Final Choice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0szSZmBb4i4)
Castle of Illusions (Phantasmagoria) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ9WfhgFGoM)
Sora wo Miagete (Looking Up at the Sky) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_9G85rgpck)

Etrian Odyssey III (Yuzo Koshiro)
Hoist the Sword with Pride in the Heart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14U64jWO85s)
The End of the Raging Waves (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEsgRhIhHf8)
Their Own Brand of Justice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPvBxglPNRI)

Zero no Kiseki (Falcom JDK)
Get Over The Barrier! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6PJ5hr5UA8)
Stand Up Battle Formation Again! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JVdv4a3vMc)
Intense Chase (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD5eYYqakGA)
Demonic Drive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akLxvD5wtzA)
A Light Illuminating the Depths (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCtxjBQ9nYE)
New Days ~Omen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wArLazE9-VM)

Zero no Kiseki Evolution (Falcom JDK)
Over a Thousand Nights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1dddAG3Se4)
Get Over the Barrier -EVOLUTION- (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwNc2701HK0)
Temptation of Wisdom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzXppY6wVIc)
Arrival Existence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76-YyYl4-RA)

Ao no Kiseki (Falcom JDK)
Concentrate All Firepower!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoQt49lE4aE)
Conflicting Passions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D39U9UkLzk)
Unfathomed Force (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWgkSEESBa0)

Soukaigi (Hiroki Kikuta)
Fire Wire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gceva3eF3k)
Quake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO7nSb9evnQ)

Brandish 2: The Planet Buster (Falcom JDK)
Prologue ~Bundevia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw-JTdSjGoU)
Gadobadorrer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPdQ9828JVw)
Soldier's Sorrow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RpsrjA5ZUs)

Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys (Falcom JDK)
Field (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgoSf9efVpY)
The Great Forest of Celceta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip7Jn-e9wAA)
Walking the Path of Legend (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68myF_3fZ2I)
A Great Ordeal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IehWUs_RioQ)

Metal Max Returns (Satoshi Kadokura)
"Bounty" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI1XqEyVowo)

Metal Max 4: Gekkou no Diva (Satoshi Kadokura)
Gekkaryoufuu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R16YhOs49wY)

Brandish 4 (Falcom JDK)
Gilias -Victim- (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-1xeQUplxY)

Sora no Kiseki (Trails in the Sky) SC (Falcom JDK)
Shine of Eidos ~Sora no Kiseki~ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcYhIrY15ko)
Looking Up at the Sky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V38cvIcpli0)
The Enforcers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am48lgKgxnw)
Fateful Confrontation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6q9ulSFSi0)
Silver Will (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1X9k21EIVQ)
Visions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIETEVZxUTo)
Aiming for That Future (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_4TqXAQvz4)
A Gravestone Struck by Thunder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATJv91QnXEo)
Outskirts of Evolution (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0NobPi2D58)
The Merciless Savior (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoRp9OMwDIE)
Back to Your Friends (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75XkkNcmKok)
I swear... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQZw-m5gGbo)

Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim (Falcom JDK)
Release of the Far West Ocean (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN3CGAU4Z0g)
Ernst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzfodAERwuU)
The Depth Napishtim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NyvvCGxRes)

Ys Origin (Falcom JDK)
Genesis ~Beyond the Beginning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_6SKlT0FXM)
The Guidance of a White Tower (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1TfhpuP54M)
Dreaming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0K4JI-isFM)
Scars of the Divine Wing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlSxN98y7Z4)

Koudelka (Hiroki Kikuta)
Waterfall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Eu_zij3Rz8)

Wachenröder (Ian McDonald)
Catastrophe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHzFG3UdXgo)

Mystic Ark (Akihiko Mori)
Your Fighting Eyes are Always Beautiful (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpTSrp8N9oo)

Gurumin (Falcom JDK)
Sight of Silence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovn0wiyltVA)
Rocky Nebula (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtddV05M0ls)
Soaring through the Melancholy Skies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1RO6AG1w3Y)
TO MAKE THE END OF DIGGING (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKOJQNi_Vng)

Rudra no Hihou (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ8Ehj50C1A) (Ryuji Sasai)
Rudra
Crime of the Heart
Strange Encounters
A Place in the Sun
Whistle Down the Wind
Earth Bound
The Spirit Chaser
Underwater City
Blazing Impact
Sanctuary
Holiday in the Village
Battle of the Last Enemy ~ In the Mirror
Beyond the Rising Moon

Chaos Rings Omega (Noriyasu Agematsu)
Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5JGH0bdo3M)
A World Without Tears (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBe2BC565oQ)

Chaos Rings II (Noriyasu Agematsu)
Battle Benedictit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SvfLXBDFGg)
Dire Struggle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv9PZNCNdKo)
Hallowed Beast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxHO9SKnlZw)

Romancing Saga 2 (Kenji Ito)
Last Battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eZGnTuBHGg)

Romancing Saga 3 (Kenji Ito)
Katarina's Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulyyG-v3M0I)
Aurora (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsHQK1UdQxk)
Magical Tank Battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2VlvNVSeQY)

Monster Kingdom: Jewel Summoner (Kenji Ito)
"Battle Theme" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIaQL3bfiVo)

Fire Emblem: Shin Monshou no Nazo (New Mystery of the Emblem) (Yuka Tsujiyoko)
Reign of Despair (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMhykdLq1aY)

Gensou Sangokushi Super Arrange Version (Composed by Userjoy Sound Team and arranged by Falcom JDK)
Defeated Ones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pymG7ph-1D4)

Super Robot Taisen OGS (Hironobu Kageyama/Masami Okui/Wataru Yumura/Satoru Okada/Naofumi Tsuruyama/Takuya Hanaoka/Kayoko Matsushima)
Trombe! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCmTJVew_tY)
The Sword that Cleaves Evil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VSA7CvnBAU)
Sword, Soul, One Strike (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ABHFWlmAG4)
Ash to Ash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN00p8MNajg)

Spiral Knights (Harry Mack)
Haven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1prVJLPIb1A)
Sky Islands Day Action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkUNpjz6gT0)
Sky Islands Day Ambient (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8WV0uzELf0)
Fiend (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6AeTLz5L0U)
Fire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvWZA8GgjYU)
Freeze (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwdeiZtAiw)
Shock (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdEBx2uv8hc)
Poison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQKvmTgFKO0)
"Lockdown" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFmjbn7x4d0)
Castle Action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3OacngGWBM)
"Boss 2" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HISs7PAzMVQ)

Nayuta no Kiseki (Falcom JDK)
One Summer Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eubfecx-cDI)
The Island Left Behind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRr3VfnppBk)
Overflowing Feelings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAsle4GQpUw)
Tower of Ruins (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1VggxONS1k)
The Golden World (Terra) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57FY_4QsYks)
Dazzling Sunlight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nZ5e7twNn0)
The Water Cave of the Abyss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KyZgnR267s)
Indelible Feeling (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzL3G_QfqOI)
Canyon of Harvest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TbpBRgfpxI)
Rime on Trees of Silver (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qhI9rqQSUY)
Sky of Truth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFmKswaqNH4)
Get Back the Power of "Arts"! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwsfoslvJ1M)
Mission of Mythus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjVu_aX-4c4)
Win Back Your Heart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsWZLa3xR_E)
Memory of the Planet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNNpEsdw7ds)
Nihilistic Icon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dACh8Qv3ia4)
Gentle Lullaby -Creha- (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxE5fznWEsk)
Far-Off Promise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlKREm9IHS0)
For My Precious Friend (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0cJCU7wGqQ)
The Door to Adventure (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA92viGh5Fc)

Eternal Sonata (Motoi Sakuraba)
Leap the Precipice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcC1RjtSVSM)

Fhey Area (Motoi Sakuraba)
Boss Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXASf-Rphv0)

Oceanhorn (Kalle Ylitalo/Kenji Ito/Nobuo Uematsu)
Sky Island (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGXYwNIJtxw)
Final Boss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH3lpXqKWNA)

Bastion (Darren Korb)
Setting Sail, Coming Home (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDflVhOpS4E)

World of Goo (not an RPG, but Taelus did say "anything" and it is so goo-d), seriously, this is required listening (Kyle Gabler)
The entire soundtrack (http://kylegabler.com/WorldOfGooSoundtrack/)

1: The original PSP version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtM6ryCVJzI) of this song is a little better in my opinion, but it wouldn't technically count as a 2014 selection.
2: This IS the original PSP verson, simply because more than half of the song was cut out in the Evo remake to make room for the new credits theme.


I know this is probably too much, and probably is a bit over-saturated with Falcom. I did my best to pick good stuff, though!

what am I doing with my life
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on November 19, 2014, 03:47:07 PM
Three things:

1) Sorry for the delay in posting. I've been hiring new people and super busy!

2) Thanks so much for everyone's continued patience: the drought should be over now :) There's an episode of Rhythm Encounter cooking for Friday, and we're also RECORDING another on Friday with a talented musician.

3) holy freaking crap Reta: thanks for all the selections. I will be totally honest and tell you I will absolutely not have time to listen to them all. Your enthusiasm, however, is super appreciated! However, if you can pick one or two that you'd REALLY like to hear on the show, let me know and thy will shall be done.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on November 19, 2014, 11:25:14 PM
Three things:

1) Sorry for the delay in posting. I've been hiring new people and super busy!

2) Thanks so much for everyone's continued patience: the drought should be over now :) There's an episode of Rhythm Encounter cooking for Friday, and we're also RECORDING another on Friday with a talented musician.

3) holy freaking crap Reta: thanks for all the selections. I will be totally honest and tell you I will absolutely not have time to listen to them all. Your enthusiasm, however, is super appreciated! However, if you can pick one or two that you'd REALLY like to hear on the show, let me know and thy will shall be done.

Don't worry Reta, I'll listen to them all. :)

From what I've listened, I really, really liked "Aria -Holy Saint, Holy Spirit-." Very, very beautiful. Sempre Dolce. :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on November 20, 2014, 01:19:48 AM
A thousand thanks to you, Marcos :) And again to you for your participation, Reta!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arklight on November 20, 2014, 01:41:38 AM
Sorry to bog your log of tunes down even more, but I've got one last song to share.
Ar nosurge: em-pyei-n vari-fen jang; (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNx9GZhXRVU)
Normally I'd just leave it at a single post, but this song is far far FAR too beautiful to not share. The vocalist actually sort of reminds me of the vocalist in Legend of Mana.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Rucks on December 08, 2014, 11:02:11 PM
(editing out my foolishness....)


Also, I'd hate myself if I didn't interject with this classic bit of brilliance from the 8-bit days http://youtu.be/HFKtYCcMWT4 (http://youtu.be/HFKtYCcMWT4)
and its highly entertaining remix http://youtu.be/JTcvxPrzZUg (http://youtu.be/JTcvxPrzZUg)

so glad chiptune is a thing
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on December 08, 2014, 11:36:00 PM
Per the tracklist, I think that song in the first link is called Devil's Wind (?)

WILY STAGE <3 <3 <3 <3

I too love chiptune. One of my favorite parts of MAGFest last year was the random bursts of chipmusic being jammed out with all throughout the place.

edit:

this mix is awesome
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dice on December 09, 2014, 12:06:02 AM
Just super saiyan, Wild and I posted a bagpipes, accordion, and sitar selections that are nothing short of extraordinary musical selections
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on December 09, 2014, 12:19:29 AM
I actually saw that earlier but didn't have a chance to listen? Can I be lazy and ask you to link it here :)?
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on December 09, 2014, 12:26:01 AM
I actually saw that earlier but didn't have a chance to listen? Can I be lazy and ask you to link it here :)?
These two posts from the Random VGM thread (http://www.rpgfan.com/boards/index.php?topic=12553.msg349491#msg349491).  Pretty cool stuff in there. 
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on December 09, 2014, 02:14:47 PM
Just super saiyan, Wild and I posted a bagpipes, accordion, and sitar selections that are nothing short of extraordinary musical selections

Preach it, Sistah. ;)

Also, I'd like to add this accordion vgm track that I have been in love with since its release: Suikoden IV OST: 1-01 "La Mer" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc7evTrULxk)

I actually saw that earlier but didn't have a chance to listen? Can I be lazy and ask you to link it here :)?
These two posts from the Random VGM thread (http://www.rpgfan.com/boards/index.php?topic=12553.msg349491#msg349491).  Pretty cool stuff in there. 

Pretty cool indeed!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on December 11, 2014, 10:01:19 PM
Soooo I guess I should have realized by now that we've got a thread for the podcast. Sorry to be no show for a while there. I promise I wasn't being antisocial on purpose, just on accident! ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on December 11, 2014, 10:05:43 PM
I actually really like Suikoden IV's OST. I know that game isn't well-loved, but since I've literally never even seen it in action, I can't comment on that.

On a related note, my project for Christmas at the family's place is to pick Suiko2 back up and finish it once and for all.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dice on December 11, 2014, 11:26:58 PM
Speaking of accordion and Suikoden popping up....

The suikoden IV opening theme is fantastic.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on December 12, 2014, 01:05:11 AM
Soooo I guess I should have realized by now that we've got a thread for the podcast. Sorry to be no show for a while there. I promise I wasn't being antisocial on purpose, just on accident! ;)

Welcome! Better late than never. ;)

I actually really like Suikoden IV's OST. I know that game isn't well-loved, but since I've literally never even seen it in action, I can't comment on that.

On a related note, my project for Christmas at the family's place is to pick Suiko2 back up and finish it once and for all.

I adore Suikoden IV's soundtrack and game with a passion. It is true that sailing in the ocean can be a drag, but I really enjoyed this game's cast of characters. I do have to say one of my favorite music moments is the duel with Mitsuba (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6SLeqzXpvk), when this plays: Magnificient Handling of a Broadsword [Mitsuba Fight BGM] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL18NPyJa9k). Then again, just that theme @ 0:24 is my favorite part, which is also in another duel theme: Fated Confrontation [Duel Battle BGM] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6tuXPmceE0).

*hint: If anyone wants to get me anything ever, the gensosuikoden IV soundtrack (http://vgmdb.net/album/682) is the way to go! ;) ;) ;)

Speaking of accordion and Suikoden popping up....

The suikoden IV opening theme is fantastic.

You know it! :D
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: IhaveFURY on December 14, 2014, 05:12:27 PM
I think I sent an email with some MOTY suggestions a while ago, but I'm listening to the newest episode while furiously typing away on finals stuff, and now I'm in the mood to listen to more VGM and suggest a couple of Dissidia tracks. ^_^

Lux Concordiae : http://youtu.be/zL3qNJEGpSk

Cantata Mortis & God in Fire: http://youtu.be/E4Z3_9ub2tU  The transition between the bombastic chorus and the hard rock is a little jarring- I once described it as auditory whiplash- but it's a crazy awesome song. Plays when you fight Feral Chaos. 

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Grainofariver on January 20, 2015, 02:52:51 PM
 So after checking the lists, it doesn't seem Star Ocean 2's soundtrack has ever been brought up in any episodes (I could be wrong - sleep deprivation tends to do that to people). The Venerable Forest (also Rena's Theme, though they are similar), Field of Expel and Pyroxene are all, in my opinion, fantastic. Although it's not perfect - hilariously I actually dislike the main battle theme - I think it does have a unique sound that I haven't heard in anything since. It's a pity because Sakuraba can do some awesome things with the criminally underused woodwinds. What are your thoughts on the sound of SO2?
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on January 22, 2015, 10:09:20 AM
Don't worry, SO2 will get featured on the podcast if I have anything to say about it. I've just been waiting for the right theme to pick a track or two. ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dice on January 22, 2015, 12:30:05 PM
PFFFT.   What DOESN'T work?

EVENT

http://youtu.be/RFWkNdRzr7A
Lose One's Illusions -- Plays at the start of disc 2 on Nede, lovely redone version of Rena's theme and the Venerable Forest

http://youtu.be/boRCmchdgP0?list=PL4272CFF71FF5C27D
We Form in Crystals -- Ending theme, a rather melancholy yet lovely tune

http://youtu.be/xDxRKMC1YhI?list=PL02269E339590713C
The introduction version of "Star Ocean Forever" with that very "intro" sound that captures a narrator talking about the sights and struggles and context of the game.  Eh.  Added here for completion sake, but if you went this route I'd go for one of the nicer versions from SO3 or 4.  Star Ocean 3 having an aamaaazzing 7 minute long Jazz version (http://youtu.be/djx-RZ9IpVA) that was toe-tapping and smooth.

http://youtu.be/jq3cFBwmRsY?list=PL4272CFF71FF5C27D
Theme of Rena -- I feel like Venerable Forest is better, but I like the use of deeper vocals.

http://youtu.be/7o8vwBFUGys?list=PL4272CFF71FF5C27D
Field of Nede
http://youtu.be/hYbFnoRSW6M?list=RDdqKWA1HIN0A
Field of Expel
The main planet's themes.  I like how they're both epic but still somewhat melancholy sounding.  Certainly the fact both planets are in deep trouble and teetering towards disaster are conveyed within.

BATTLE

http://youtu.be/zogwJRiHgzA?list=PL4272CFF71FF5C27D
Incarnation of the Devil -- Boss theme that kicks a bunch of butt

http://youtu.be/QjVmw8M_Lq0?list=RDdqKWA1HIN0A
Stab the Sword of Justice -- Main battle theme, makes me want to stab someone with the fork I'm holding

http://youtu.be/gQE3Y5gC-xA?list=PL02269E339590713C
Dynamite -- Main boss theme; again, doesn't suffer from harsh sounds of more 'serious' boss fights.  I like the bit of crazy here.  And ya, it's 'dy-no-MITE'.

http://youtu.be/X8bhnZJXgYc?list=PL02269E339590713C
This epic track!!! ... No I'm kidding, don't do it.

DUNGEONS

http://youtu.be/NzD5MnpTZ2w?list=PL02269E339590713C
Pyroxene -- One of the nicer dungeons themes.  The game has good dungeons themes, well, some, but this one is possibly the least "noisy" and less reliant on harsh synth sounds, or like, against shit like this which is almost impossible to love (http://youtu.be/G8jMm3S0hC8?list=PL02269E339590713C).

http://youtu.be/se6nQasm4EU?list=PL02269E339590713C
Rescue Operation -- Cool dungeon theme that's named after what it honestly sounds like

http://youtu.be/OlrJaZ2qx_Y?list=PL4272CFF71FF5C27D
Mission to Deep Space -- Personally I like the more jazzy SO3 one, but a great bonus dungeon theme if there was one with all the techy synthy goodness

TOWNS

http://youtu.be/4h5FzzXKjLA?list=RDdqKWA1HIN0A
Venerable Forest -- The song I hear in the back of my mind when I go for a hike...y'know, along with this one (http://youtu.be/vkailb3xcTI).  Shut it!  I'm not weird!

http://youtu.be/BLYsbCaf7K8?list=PL4272CFF71FF5C27D
White the Heart -- Town theme for a completely...optional Snowy Town, actually.  Very chill (hah) and lovely.

http://youtu.be/IKNZoEPbCfI?list=PL02269E339590713C
In a Lightsome Mood -- And HOW! Makes me wanna take a trip on a ship [rhyme points!!!!]

http://youtu.be/QraFfjq1C1o?list=PL02269E339590713C
Walk Over - I love how this song feels rich and proper of a port town.  It's busy, it's beautiful.

http://youtu.be/XzShumL0Ous?list=RDdqKWA1HIN0A
Pure a Stream -- I don't think any village song is better to convey leaving a gross, polluted place to a clean and pretty one.  Arlia's theme is really nice.

http://youtu.be/v_8vgQS3do0?list=PL02269E339590713C
Moderate --- Mars village theme.  Fucking lovely.  I love the weird flute work that kicks in about 40 sec.  Very peaceful and becoming of a magical planet theme.

http://youtu.be/a5ALxL9Gf6c?list=PL02269E339590713C
Sacred Song -- Great tune used for the Castles on Expel.  I especially like that it doesn't sound completely archaic and medieval since the game depicts levels of technology even on its more "middle ages planet".

http://youtu.be/aw2zRnCAXAU?list=PL02269E339590713C
Cuddle -- The "nighttime" theme.  Again, this song works well in game and on its own for being relaxing, but I like how the game shifts the mood from Earth, Melancholia, and the Calnus to Expel being something completely different.

Yeah sorry, I honestly love the town themes in Star Ocean games and a lot of Sakuraba's more "pleasant tunes".  Except the song that plays in Salva, only because it's much more [appropriately] depressing sounding.


I always liked the weird use of, what may or may not be (when it comes to synthesized tunes), the bandura.  Odd choice, but works against some of the medieval backdrops.  But I do have some reservations is that in the harder-hitting and heavy synethesized songs I tend to tune out a bit more.  I love the Final Fantasy Tactics OST, but again, some songs are just really heavy on the electronic strings and it bugs my ears even despite a pleasant melody.  I also should admit that I'm not as BIG into battle and dungeon tunes, or when I am, they're more few and far between compared to other types of tracks (like event music or more relaxing town/world themes).

Don't get me started on doing Star Ocean 3... c-cuz I WILL!! >:(

I also confess I can probably do a game journal on this game without even needing to replay it though.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Annubis on January 22, 2015, 10:22:54 PM
http://youtu.be/jq3cFBwmRsY?list=PL4272CFF71FF5C27D
Theme of Rena -- I feel like Venerable Forest is better, but I like the use of deeper vocals.

I love this song and how calm and yet emotion charged it sounds.

Don't get me started on doing Star Ocean 3... c-cuz I WILL!! >:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEMr9waZaaw
The Dawn of Wisdom - The theme of Star Ocean 3. Welcome to space, you will explore, meet new species, meet new people, you will adventure, struggle, and finally, marvel at the power of science and civilization!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNFf4uCaoPY
Bird's Eye View - Speaking of exploration, go out there in this vast field and discover!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT7hrB2TWSg
Collapse Of Frailty - Say goodbye to your childhood boy, you are now a man!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgMXWnWH1TA
Cutting Edge of Notion - MY MONEY MY MONEY! aaaaaAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa !!
Erm... I mean, just the first two seconds of this song already make you want to wreck shit up with awesome moves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFqYog98p7w
Gaiety Company - So damn weird a song but it just sounds so homely and kinda medieval fair at some times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eCzwWLnfSs
Mission To The Deep Space - You will listen to this song for at least 50 hours and love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KKLkLJVt0c
So Alone, Be Sorrow - Great use of vocal as an instrument

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlV1hsOd_WA
The Divine Spirit of Language - The #1 reason why getting to Crossel is the highlite of any playthrough.
Listen to that thing at 5% higher tempo, it rocks even more =D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyJCOIZimYA
The Future of Blood-Stained Blade - So glorious. I love the part at 1:12.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vANRdqvvf6E
Chrysanthemum in Winter - A land where times flows o so slowly; lost in the calm of winter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G28copkOp0
Requiem For A Saint - Such a 'heavy' song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt7fW1zlSyc
Imperial Garden - I just love how 'imposing' this song is.
ABSOLUTE DESPAIR
You have no chance of survival, make you time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N85mxgIDnIo
Interval Of Freezed Time - Why are you here? This is the domain of the gods, ever so... ever such...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcEQ-CYTVx8
The Virtual Image - Remove the god awful dungeon and this song is great. Again, great use of vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW5mfcIi43A
Confidence in the Domination (Band Recording) - Damn you Lenneth! This game isn't about you! Go back to your own game with your damn awesome music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3dTr0M7FMQ
The True Nature Of All - Fuggit Freya, that applies to you too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CugyaQzmx8
Bitter Dance - I kid, I kid...
Seriously, did he watch Space Jam the night before composing this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9FImc2LOr8&feature=player_detailpage&x-yt-cl=84503534&x-yt-ts=1421914688#t=58
Shit that song is atrocious, here's a way better remix of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNXpHREyEWA
♥ Nicol Amalfi

http://youtu.be/4h5FzzXKjLA?list=RDdqKWA1HIN0A
Venerable Forest -- The song I hear in the back of my mind when I go for a hike...y'know, along with this one (http://youtu.be/vkailb3xcTI).  Shut it!  I'm not weird!

Your lack of Candy Mountain while mountaineering is sad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fz_xsHzSvQ
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dice on January 22, 2015, 10:56:53 PM

Your lack of Candy Mountain will mountaineering is sad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fz_xsHzSvQ

Annubis you just won a lot of fake internet love from me right here.

And ending it off with a Kirby Super Star song just made me
(http://i.imgur.com/A4mSQAq.gif)

I will have to remember Kirby.  As is, when I walk in some posh fancy place I think of Marshmallow Castle (http://youtu.be/w5kP4CkRgOo), same for Great Cave Offensive for other cool "explore-y" things. x)
And no disrespect to other Kirby games, but I thought Kirby Super Star had the best 'overall' OSTof the bunch.

EDIT:  Okay, back on Star Ocean 3
= God awful dungeon?  They were all pretty awful, haaah...
= I def didn't appreciate Requiem for a Saint till I got a bit older and could enjoy something a bit more 'emotive', or as you say, "heavy".
= Good call on Mission to Deep Space.  50 hour dungeon?  SOUNDS good ahahahahhahahahaha
= In my FF9 topic I said it's hard for a main battle theme not to become tiresome.  Reason I didn't say "ALL main battle themes" is because of Cutting Edge of Notion and Digital Devil Saga's "Battle for Survival" (http://youtu.be/BCuOjfyUHnA) exist.
= Dawn of Wisdom is also accompanied by a brilliant opening visual that shows gool ol' 1969 and the future.  And part of why I love sci-fi in general is for ideas and motifs like that.
= Future of the Blood Stained Blade is phenominal for a main "event" theme, it's soft but still very impactful.
= Expiration (http://youtu.be/ahe-8KQfkis) needs to be on there.  It's so damn exicitng for a dungeon theme, and I kinda like the long winded guitar
= Reflected Moon (http://youtu.be/9LtR6vp5Fcc) is also untouchable as far as soft and elegant castle themes go.  I think I listenned to this once during a panic attack to help me chill.
= Divine Indignation (http://youtu.be/FLJ8y6s1dP4) doesn't start nicely, but the middle point on is so lovely.  I love the very slow and quiet ending only to finish off with such an enlightening and uplifting sound
= Yeah, Gaiety was charming as hell.  I even liked the beach resort theme.... but that could be because it NAILS the resort sound and I haven't been on vacation in 10 years. D:
= So alone be sorrow *brofist* The rhytm version especially
= But really the remix for Slam and Jam was the cherry on the cake (and that remix is sexy)

EDIT  Shit I forgot Rust Colour.  Take that chipper town themes, http://youtu.be/TSlDUPl7DoA
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Annubis on January 22, 2015, 11:54:16 PM
Man, between the both of us, there's enough SO love that they should let us make SO5...
(it's not about saving the entire universe for once)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Grainofariver on January 23, 2015, 03:00:20 AM
 I know they said Star Ocean has ended, but it doesn't mean Tri-Ace can't continue something new as a 'spiritual successor', re-using (and improving) many of SO's systems. Then again, I don't even know what Tri-Ace is doing anymore aside from helping with 13-2 and LR. But, trying to bring it back to music, perhaps they could bring Sakuraba and give him more freedom than the Tales studio to actually make some awesome music (I don't hate Tales music, but it's far from his best work). Who would you like to see compose for a spiritual successor to SO? (sorry if I sound like a teacher leaving prompts - I just want to add to the conversation)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on February 15, 2015, 11:39:46 AM
I support Caitlin's pro-Okami revolution. That is all.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arklight on February 15, 2015, 11:53:40 AM
I know they said Star Ocean has ended, but it doesn't mean Tri-Ace can't continue something new as a 'spiritual successor', re-using (and improving) many of SO's systems. Then again, I don't even know what Tri-Ace is doing anymore aside from helping with 13-2 and LR. But, trying to bring it back to music, perhaps they could bring Sakuraba and give him more freedom than the Tales studio to actually make some awesome music (I don't hate Tales music, but it's far from his best work). Who would you like to see compose for a spiritual successor to SO? (sorry if I sound like a teacher leaving prompts - I just want to add to the conversation)

Tri-Ace were the developers of the very recent Phantasy Star Nova on the vita. They even got Sakuraba to compose. It's definitely no Star Ocean, but as far as the soundtrack is concerned, I think that'll be pretty close. Also, track down the Frontier Gate soundtrack. THAT'S pretty good.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on February 15, 2015, 10:11:28 PM
I support Caitlin's pro-Okami revolution. That is all.

And the movement gains another member! Welcome! We've got jackets. ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on March 20, 2015, 11:51:26 AM
I joined the forums here for the sole purpose of telling you guys that Rhythm Encounter 20: Winter Warmer was far and away the best Rhythm Encounter so far.  Every single track was A+, even the ones I was totally unfamiliar with.  Really stellar job, great choices, interesting discussion.  Can't enthuse enough about the episode.

NOTE: I tried to join and post this shortly after the episode came out, but it took a while to get approved for the forums, and then once I did I... kinda... forgot about coming here.  But I did eventually make it!  Please forgive my tardiness.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on March 20, 2015, 12:02:23 PM
Sorry - every so often, we try removing the new member approval process, but the board inevitably gets flooded with spam when we do. :(
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on March 23, 2015, 02:05:38 PM
Sorry - every so often, we try removing the new member approval process, but the board inevitably gets flooded with spam when we do. :(
As someone who voluntarily (and manually) reports every single Spambot in another small forum community I am a part of, I can appreciate this.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on March 23, 2015, 02:14:08 PM
Hey-- sorry, I've been knee deep in finishing up Music of the Year (coming VERRRY soon :D) and my master's defense.

Thanks a ton for joining and for your kind words! I'm really happy with episode 20 as well, and I think moving forward we're going to be producing some really great stuff /bias.

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arklight on March 31, 2015, 12:54:51 PM
Just curious, how long ago was the second segment of MOTY Part 1 recorded? I found it a bit odd that nobody mentioned the fairly recent passing of Origa when you guys were talking about her track in Ar nosurge.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on March 31, 2015, 01:12:41 PM
Quite a while ago, actually. Before it happened, which is why it wasn't mentioned. Sadly.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on March 31, 2015, 03:15:12 PM
It was before the recent Persona 5 stuff as well. Otherwise we would have had a LOT to say about the music in the P5 gameplay trailer.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ultra7k on April 07, 2015, 01:54:07 PM
started listening to the MOTY casts on my drive in to work. I really like the use of the music playing in the background while you guys talk about them. It really helps refresh my memory as to what I liked/didn't like when I have to stop the podcast every so often.

Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on April 07, 2015, 03:39:04 PM
Thank you so much. We're taking a small break from the music show as we recover from MOTY, but I'm sure there's plenty to keep you company until we come back, hahaha.

So it turns out, that music playing in the background was actually an accident! But you're not the only one to suggest that it's actually not so bad, so I'm going to see about maybe playing snippets of the song under our chatter in the future.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on April 23, 2015, 12:03:35 PM
Hey-- sorry, I've been knee deep in finishing up Music of the Year (coming VERRRY soon :D) and my master's defense.

Thanks a ton for joining and for your kind words! I'm really happy with episode 20 as well, and I think moving forward we're going to be producing some really great stuff /bias.
Ok, well, first of all, I've started the 12-FREAKING-HOUR Music of the Year Podcast Marathon.  I only listen to podcasts at work, really, and I don't think I'll be listening to any other podcast but Rhythm Encounter for a month or so.
Second of all, you weren't kidding about producing some great stuff, and I'm not even halfway through First Movement.  I've been trying to hold off coming here and posting too early, but the second I heard Kanako Itou's vocals on "Sky of Twilight" from Atelier Escha & Logy, I had to come and say how much I appreciated that pick for the MOTY podcast.  Itou sang the main theme for the Steins;Gate anime, "Hacking To The Gate", which is my favorite anime of all time.  I recognized her voice immediately, which I've never done with a non-English speaker before.  Hearing her distinct vocals brought back a rush of emotion, and I really felt like this track was a super-hardcore choice that many may not have appreciated.  But I did, and I want to thank you guys for it.


Random Thoughts on First Movement:

- That Final Fantasy XV theme REALLY sounded like Legend of Mana, to me.  I know LoM is Shimomura's personal favorite soundtrack, so perhaps she is purposely going back to it for inspiration now that she has been tasked with scoring Square's hugely-important, most culturally significant, flagship franchise.  This is easily the biggest project she has done, by far.

- "Title Theme" from Bird Story is amazing.  Kan Gao is an incredible composer.  The music in To The Moon was one of my favorite parts of a game that was incredible all the way around.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mickeymac92 on April 23, 2015, 12:27:25 PM
Random thought, but wouldn't you want this in the RPGFan music section? Preferably stickied? Or is it too big to move now?
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on April 24, 2015, 09:33:12 AM
Random thought, but wouldn't you want this in the RPGFan music section? Preferably stickied?
This. When I first joined the forums a few weeks ago, I had to use the search function to even find this thread.  I had assumed it would be stickied in the Music section, or that maybe there was a dedicated "Podcasts" subforum somewhere, but couldn't find anything.

Btw, I'm still listening to the MOTY podcasts.  I'll keep posting my thoughts as I go.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on April 24, 2015, 10:04:55 AM
This thread existed before the music forum did. :)  I moved it now, though, because I agree it makes more sense there.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on April 24, 2015, 11:52:27 AM
Random Thoughts on First Movement, continued:

- Boy, "Wicked Flight" from Bravely Default went on about 3 minutes too long.  Not enough variation, too.  It may not loop, but it sure sounds like the same thing being repeated every couple minutes.

- Dang, I gotta put Granblue Fantasy on my list of soundtracks to listen to.  "Evergreen Wind" was incredible!  You definitely get a feeling of Uematsu's extra level of genius from it.

- This Nier jazz is the best jazz.  I'm serious.  Don't even like Nier.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on April 24, 2015, 04:57:23 PM
Random Thoughts on Second Movement:

- Good night, this episode is off to a bang.  Both "The Revolving Wheel of Fate" and "Song of the Ancients", the opening two tracks, were AAA+ top-notch stuff.  That sax on "Song of the Ancients" just melted me into puddle.

- That piece from The Banner Saga was quite powerful.  I wonder how Wintory found the vocalists?  They're perfect for the setting and "feel" of the game.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on April 24, 2015, 09:43:16 PM
Hey-- thanks a ton for dropping by and offering such substantial commentary!!

Anyways, let me see here:

I agree re: Shimomura, FFXV, and LOM. LoM is an amazing score, and I'd love for her to dip into that thematic for FFXV. Also yes, Kan Gao's music is wonderful.

Mickey-- you're right, and Tooker beat me to it :)

Arvis, once again-- thanks for live-posting your thoughts on the show. I'm really glad you're able to enjoy it and get some music enrichment! That's the goal! I love Wicked Flight, but I can see where you're coming from there. That said, I think Granblue Fantasy is an amazing OST. And yeah-- I love the first movement, but man did we drop some seriously awesome stuff in everyone's picks for second. You should listen to the whole Banner Saga OST if you haven't. It's incredibly evocative-- I think I've described it as 'gray.' Not in that it's bland or monotone, but in that it just captures that sense of grim, impending end that the game does so well.

Looking forward to more of your thoughts!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: DaviKaze on April 26, 2015, 07:52:07 AM
Glad you're enjoying the moty stuff!  It got me through a couple rough days of work xD
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: dharkhades on April 27, 2015, 05:29:18 PM
Most of the music for MOTY 2014 has been fantastic (some of the orchestrated pieces were not doing it for me) and I was glad to see so much love for the Persona Q as I wasn't sure whether to grab that or not. One album that was for me the best release last year was the Transistor OST which was only represented by one song. Out of all of the soundtracks from last year that I've listened to so far, that is one I keep coming back to. It's beautiful, haunting, bad ass, and has such great flow from one song to the next. One other opinion I had was that I LOVED the song "The Hollow City" from Tales of Xillia 2. I don't know what is about that song, it's just so unique and strange that I can't help but love it. I wasn't a fan of the other song from that game, however.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on April 27, 2015, 05:30:35 PM
Thanks Taelus!  I'm a long time listener of this site's podcasts, but for some reason I just never really got myself into the forums.

Only a few thoughts on Second Movement, for now:

- Besaid Theme.  Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........... *instantly relaxed*

- Can somebody please tell me what this Grinsia is!?  There's a 3DS RPG with that name, a Kemco mobile RPG called "RPG Grinsia" which I don't think is the same thing(???), and then one of you guys said something about Steam when talking about it....  so...... WTH??  How can I play this game that has such amazing music?  (sorry for the manic nature of this last thought, busy day at work and don't have the time to do the necessary research myself)

- Shades of TMNT IV: Turtles in Time in this CrossCode track.  Or am I just imagining that?  I see turtles on neon hoverboards....
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on April 27, 2015, 10:34:47 PM
Hades-- you should check out our interview with the composer! He talks a lot about how he put together the Transistor OST.


Arvis:

Grinsia was first released as a mobile game with a different OST, but was re-released on 3DS (and I believe Steam) with a new soundtrack by Shannon Mason. It does have rad music! And two excellent musicians are currently working on an remastered version of the soundtrack, too!

And no worries! Posting on forums takes time, but I do appreciate that you've dropped by to share your thoughts! Always great to interact with other lovers of great VGM.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on April 27, 2015, 11:07:28 PM
Thanks Taelus!  I'm a long time listener of this site's podcasts, but for some reason I just never really got myself into the forums.

Only a few thoughts on Second Movement, for now:

- Besaid Theme.  Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........... *instantly relaxed*

- Can somebody please tell me what this Grinsia is!?  There's a 3DS RPG with that name, a Kemco mobile RPG called "RPG Grinsia" which I don't think is the same thing(???), and then one of you guys said something about Steam when talking about it....  so...... WTH??  How can I play this game that has such amazing music?  (sorry for the manic nature of this last thought, busy day at work and don't have the time to do the necessary research myself)

- Shades of TMNT IV: Turtles in Time in this CrossCode track.  Or am I just imagining that?  I see turtles on neon hoverboards....

Having played the mobile version of it, I can tell you it was something special. The mobile version's soundtrack was fine, but I prefer the re-composed soundtrack over it. ;) Also, looks like Mr. Taelus beat me to the punch with the additional info (would have posted sooner, but just got back from work!). With that said, it's great to have you on the boards, Arvis! Hope to chat with you about music in the near future. ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on April 28, 2015, 06:01:43 PM
Thanks again, guys!  I'll add the 3DS version of Grinsia to my Play Queue (where it will be game #130).  There is no Steam version, sadly.
Wild Armor, that is a sick Tellah avatar.  Nice find.

More thoughts on Second Movement:

- You guys made me cry with that re-arranged Dark Cloud 2 track.  I made a Top 10 list of my favorite games and Dark Cloud 2 was like #3.  I really really love that game and it is wildly unappreciated.  When I heard that amazing version of "Never Ending Adventure" appear from nowhere, my heart leaped.  I even rewound so I could listen to it a second time.

- And then the Dark Cloud 2 track just moved seamlessly into Time's Scar (Scars of Time) from Chrono Cross, the single greatest musical composition in video game history!  What a surprise that was, I don't think it was even listed in your breakdown of the tracks.  And then to follow it up with a jazzy version of "Corridor of Time".... wow.... brilliant.  So... many.... emotions....

- I don't really know if Walking Dead is teeeeechnically an RPG, but DANG Clementine's Theme is gorgeous...

- Fisherman's Horizon is always a sentimental favorite, and it arranges REALLY well.  I don't think there is a bad version of this track.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on April 28, 2015, 06:39:18 PM
Yeah, TWD gets coverage because we do point & click games as well as RPGs. :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on April 28, 2015, 06:49:03 PM
Actually, that Dark Cloud 2/Chrono Cross arrange is ONE SONG from the album Multiplayer. It's fantastic, right? :D I adore that song, and agree with you that DC2 is a wonderful, wonderful game and that Time's Scar is the best ever.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: DaviKaze on April 28, 2015, 07:00:23 PM
Most of the music for MOTY 2014 has been fantastic (some of the orchestrated pieces were not doing it for me) and I was glad to see so much love for the Persona Q as I wasn't sure whether to grab that or not. One album that was for me the best release last year was the Transistor OST which was only represented by one song. Out of all of the soundtracks from last year that I've listened to so far, that is one I keep coming back to. It's beautiful, haunting, bad ass, and has such great flow from one song to the next. One other opinion I had was that I LOVED the song "The Hollow City" from Tales of Xillia 2. I don't know what is about that song, it's just so unique and strange that I can't help but love it. I wasn't a fan of the other song from that game, however.

Yeah, the OST as a whole wasn't that great.  Although I almost picked the battle theme just so we'd get to say "Keel pushing, until the sword is exhausted."
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on April 29, 2015, 11:26:00 AM
Actually, that Dark Cloud 2/Chrono Cross arrange is ONE SONG from the album Multiplayer. It's fantastic, right? :D I adore that song, and agree with you that DC2 is a wonderful, wonderful game and that Time's Scar is the best ever.
I think I need that album. *puts on list*

Last thoughts on Second Movement:

- Oh..... my..... goodness.... This isn't a thought on the music, but rather the discussion at the end of Second Movement.  You'll have to forgive me, I'm really horrible with names, but...
Cool Woman (Emily, maybe?): "It's like life, right?  Everyone is like 'Life is great, life is great' but then you actually go and LIVE life and it's like..... pff."
Taelus(?): "Yeah, all I did was grind for 80 years."
Not only was Cool Woman's summation of life incredibly funny, but the host's (sorry) reaction was so incredibly witty I almost fell out of my chair.

- "Reflections" does NOT sound like it's from Pokemon.  I almost got emotional listening to it, and I have never played a Pokemon game.  The orchestration was simply so evocative I could feel the heart of it.

- Just a little note I have always wanted to tell you: back before I used iTunes to manage all my podcasts, I used to download the mp3s individually.  Sometimes, iTunes would get it into its head to autoplay another podcast after one ended, and I could never figure out why or how it decided what it would play.  Well, there was an OLD OLD OLD episode of Random Encounter that started with Taelus (with no context at all) saying "Ok, so um, conclusion: ......pandas." And then the opening music would roll.  For whatever reason, my iTunes would start playing THAT epsiode, EVERY SINGLE TIME I finished an episode of either Random Encounter or Rhythm Encounter.  So even though it was a cold opening to an old episode, it always sounded, to me, like it was the END of every podcast you guys did.  Which always made me giggle, every time.  So now, when I listen to your shows, I am always waiting for Taelus to say "Conclusion: pandas" at the end.  It's kinda disappointing when it doesn't happen.

Onwards to Final Movement.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on April 29, 2015, 01:05:52 PM
Thoughts on Final Movement:

- I love the style of "Freedom Blues".  I could listen to music like that for hours.

- Gotta say, Tears to Tiara II is pretty gross. Can't say I know TOO much about it, but romanticizing an ancient religion that often featured ritualistic murder of infants doesn't sit too well with me.  Not bad music, though, with those tracks selected.  This is a case of "ignorance is bliss", on my end.  Knowing that the first one was hentai kinda makes sense, though, with all the glorifying of Ishtar and Baal and whatnot.

- The "80 Days Theme" and "Hollow Moon" from Bravely Default were also exceptional.  The latter, especially, does that "latin chant" style of vocals incredibly well.  Very haunting and exceedingly moving, even without the benefit of context.

- I'm not the biggest fan of Kingdom Hearts (meaning, I enjoy the series I just don't follow it) but that "Working Together" track from Project Destati KILLED it.  Equal parts lush and sentimental, it worked on every level.  Even has a "pump-up" quality to it.  I got a burst of energy just listening to it.

- Am I right in thinking that "Lonely Rolling Stars" is a Katamari reference?  **NOTE: You just mentioned that Katamari stuff is at their concerts, so... I guess I'm right.  The song they're named after is great.

- After hearing "Neverending Journey" I want Final Fantasy Explorers even more, now.

- "Battle in the Clock Tower" made me think of Dynasty Warriors for some reason.  Perhaps the combination of orchestral sounds with wailing electric guitar...

To be Continued
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on April 30, 2015, 11:58:17 AM
More thoughts on Final Movement:

- Just to set the record straight, Ys is pronounced like the word "ease", not "wise".  I guess you probably know that.  :P

- "Footsteps of Time" is the best Persona Q track so far.

- "Band: Oblivion" totally just took me back to 2003. Thanks for that.

- You may have slightly overhyped "Darkness of the Unknown".  Slightly.  >____>

To Be Continued
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on April 30, 2015, 12:19:34 PM
- You may have slightly overhyped "Darkness of the Unknown".  Slightly.  >____>

I don't understand the statement :)

That said, yeah, Footsteps of Time is my favorite PQ track for sure. It's a reminder that I'm a bad person for still not having finished that game.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on May 01, 2015, 12:55:43 PM
Final Thoughts on Final Movement:

- "Remembrances..." was fantastic.  Solo acoustic guitar, done right, is one of the most beautiful sounds a human can hear.  This track is proof of that.  Jarring for it to be followed up by the ultra-trance "Transcend Beat".  But that track was also good, in its own right.  Kinda psyched me up.

- Of course, "Walk to Narshe" is one of the greatest pieces of music ever.  Doesn't really need to be said.  Nice choice, here, audience.  FFVI is in a place right now where it has basically a perfect blend of nostalgia and objective quality.  Its original SNES release is actually, as of right now, the 7th-highest user-rated game of all time on GameFAQs (among games with at least 1000+ ratings).  To put that in perspective, FFVII isn't even in the Top 50.  So yeah, VI gets a lot of love for a lot of reasons.

- Holy crap, you guys were killing me with impersonating the 16-bit opera vocals from FFVI.  What made it funny was that the impersonations were actually pretty true to the originals!

- Ahhhhhh yes, Cid's Theme!  So incredibly heroic.  The most heroic piece of music in the franchise for a side character.  Interesting.  He was always my favorite character, when I was a kid.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Kater on May 26, 2015, 04:56:43 AM
Just started listening to the podcast (just finished up episode 7). I am really enjoying it so far, I am big fan of video game music and your show definitely matches my tastes. My favorites episodes so far were 3 and 4, the Phantasy Star series overview. I was not very familiar with the series going in, but after listening to the shows I decided to pick up the Phantasy Star Collection for the GBA to check it out. Hopefully you do more series overviews through music in the future (you may have already). I'll be trying to catch up to the later episodes to have some comments that are a bit more relevant.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on May 26, 2015, 08:38:32 PM
Welcome, Kater! We're always happy to see new people joining the Rhythm Encounter nation and we're glad that you're enjoying what you've heard so far. We were actually recently discussing doing some episodes more focused on an individual game or series soundtracks, so you may very well get your wish! ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on May 26, 2015, 10:36:14 PM
Yeah actually you saying you love the Phantasy Star episodes is glorious because those two are close to my heart. I'm super glad you picked up PS Collection-- what greater pleasure can there be than sharing a classic series with a new fan!

And yeah-- we're actually going to turn over the idea of doing 'deep dives' on one particular series/soundtrack as Caitlin said (in addition to our current format of 'interview episodes' and 'topic' episodes! We don't do any of those in particular after the PS episodes, but it's definitely something we'd like to try again.

Anyways, thanks a ton for joining the board and sharing your thoughts! We super appreciate the time it takes to do that!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: DtS Bard on May 30, 2015, 05:13:48 PM
I just finished listening to episode 21 as I was travelling for work. Not only was it very appropriate but it was also very enjoyable. The only issue I had with it is it was too short. Every time an episode is over I'm always left wanting more... but I guess that's a good thing. Thanks so much for another great episode.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on May 30, 2015, 06:40:01 PM
Glad you enjoyed it! We talk a lot about episode length, and while I love the lengthier episodes, I also try to get a good balance of talking with music. We've got more coming, though :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: DtS Bard on May 30, 2015, 06:52:49 PM
Length is fine. I was just expressing my joy for the show and the want for it to never end.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on May 30, 2015, 11:11:09 PM
Length is fine. I was just expressing my joy for the show and the want for it to never end.

As a person who makes something, that's always good to hear! We will do our best not to disappoint!

(interview episode coming this week, I wonder with whom!)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: dharkhades on June 01, 2015, 09:50:01 PM
That Airship song from the Penny's Arcade 4 OST was like the quintessential song for Ep. 21 for the theme. I'm surprised you chose it as the bonus song and not a song you all would talk about. Someone also mentioned FF8 on their airship/travel songs and I fist-pumped in the air. I love that OST and really wish one of those songs was on there because that soundtrack had like three or four great songs in lieu of the theme and it's the album that got me into video game music.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 01, 2015, 10:05:24 PM
Haha yeah I love that song too. I would have included it, but there were so many to choose from and I didn't want to overload on FF!!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: DtS Bard on June 02, 2015, 03:14:09 PM
Final Fantasy 8 is one of my favorite soundtracks. But if they always put them in our would become Theatrythm Encounter and it would be all final Fantasy music. Maybe I'm into something here....
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 02, 2015, 03:47:39 PM
Haha, believe me, I've been tempted to do all-FF episodes. I love the series and its music, but as we've gone on doing the show, I've started to come to the school of "lots of variety is important, too!" line of thinking.

That said, I <3 Theatrhythm and I will now go play it because you reminded me of it. People should hit me up if they wnat to do some online!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: DtS Bard on June 02, 2015, 04:25:40 PM
Maybe an all square-enix one would work. Then we Could include Kingdom Hearts and chrono games as well as xenogears. You know what? I'm just going to go listen to my iPod. ☺️
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 02, 2015, 04:29:30 PM
We've been kicking around some ideas like that :D

Also this is not related to RPG music specifically but the D4 theme was performed by VGO and it's awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Z3dOMTYVg
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: dharkhades on June 02, 2015, 07:55:30 PM
A Square Enix episode would be great! Of course I would either A. Know/have all the songs or B. Immediately want the ones I don't have. I know it's maybe slightly on topic but where is a good place to start with Kingdom Hearts music. I figured start at the beginning but there are so many titles now and the original games have been "Remixed" so I just don't know. I enjoyed the first game a lot and the music was awesome and I tried the GBA Kingdom Hearts 1.5 card/battle game but nothing after that so I have no familiarity with the music other than what I hear on this lovely podcast.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: DtS Bard on June 02, 2015, 09:37:42 PM
It's tough to say where to start. There is so much good music but I feel most of it can only be appreciated if you know the source material. My suggestion would be to start with 1.5 and 2.5 as these are very good arrangements and retain the heart of the songs without sounding too dated. Taelus is probably more suited to answer this question though. Happy listening. 
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on June 04, 2015, 08:31:15 AM
Taelus, thought you would appreciate this: http://imgur.com/L9AxcGG
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: dharkhades on June 08, 2015, 05:58:19 PM
As much as wish there were more episodes of the podcast, I'm happy for what you've put out there already. If it weren't for the show, I wouldn't have ever given the Xenoblade Chronicles OST another chance. I remember loving the music with what little I played of the game (30 hrs? I think) but when I got the soundtrack, the first disc (and some of the second) was kind of unimpressive or unlistenable (that Conspiracy song has a high pitch noise that makes me want to shoot things). The third and fourth discs are brillant and totally worth all of the rupee's in the world. The podcast has also pointed me towards Arrange albums, which I can't beleive was not a part of my music listening life. Anyway I'm done gushing, thanks for putting out an awesome podcast, keep up the great work!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 08, 2015, 06:44:19 PM
Taelus, thought you would appreciate this: http://imgur.com/L9AxcGG

You thought correctly ;)

I would pay large sums for a DLC pack that was all Chrono music.

and thanks, Hades! Those are the best words folks like us can hear! Expanding the awesome listening options of someone like yourself is rad, and I'm happy we could have opened you up to new venues!

On a related note, we'll have an episode up today or tomorrow, and then another coming probably early July (would be sooner, but we're all going to E3!)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 09, 2015, 01:07:58 PM
New episode live! We chatted with HyperDuck SoundWorks, and played music from Penny Arcade 4, Dust, and Cosmic Star Heroine (among others)!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on June 26, 2015, 05:24:42 PM
Great episode, as always, guys!  The music selections are always so solid, achieving stellar a lot of the time.

Thoughts:

- SWINGING!! was kind of all over the place, don't you think?  Felt... dissonant.  But somehow good.  It was a strange track.  I'm a big big fan of Nishiura's work on Dark Cloud 2, too.  I'm a fan of everything about Dark Cloud 2, though.

- The Dark Star was.... short?  Always hard to remember the first track in a group of three.

- The... "Delfindas" song?  No track list, so I have no idea what Stephen is saying, but that song was really really good.  I don't know what it is or what it was from, but it really made me wish I was exploring.

- Xenogears OST is so freaking good.  So freaking good.  *singing*Broken mirrrorrr a million shades of light!  The old echo fades away....*gets vegetables thrown at face*

- "The Big of Two Pieces" WOULD have been a really good title, actually, for this episode.

- The commercial airliner song from FFXII: This soundtrack is so wildly underrated it actually frustrates me.  This track is another example of how well Sakimoto does "mood", even if he was forced to "homogenize" somewhat on the XII OST (I have no evidence that he was, it just always seemed like it, to me, especially when comparing XII's OST to Valkyria Chronicles').  Basically every soundtrack Sakimoto does just screams "evocative".  Every track is tied to your heart on an atom-thick string and tugs only at one particular feeling or memory.  This track, for me, says "busy but happy."  A very specific feeling.  I must admit, though, that there are a few more tracks from this soundtrack that have a very similar mood.

- Skygate from Valkyrie Profile: Valkyrie Profile is a legendary game with a soundtrack that boasts a lot of really good tracks.  This one is kind of a slow burn, but when that synth-flute busts out that... sort of melodic breakdown about halfway through, it reaches greatness.  Generally, though, it's got that weird Tri-Ace thing going on where the music is.... too complex.  They go for way too many layers at once, rather than building on a simple melody.  It makes their soundtracks really distinct and likable, but also almost comical at times.  See Star Ocean 2's "sleeping in an inn" theme to hear what I am talking about.
Stephen, you don't think Sakuraba's work on Baten Kaitos is objectively of higher quality than his PS1 stuff?
You guys are spot on about the tone of VP, though.  Very serious.  Very... almost morbid?  The whole game just felt very dark and very somber right from the beginning.  "Somber", yeah.  That's the word that describes the tone of Valkyrie Profile.  Like a funeral in video game form.

- (Untitled Sailing Theme) from Golden Sun: This felt very similar to "Skygate", actually, to me, in it's first few moments.  But that is probably just a quirk of it's following right after it.  I admit, I have basically no familiarity with Golden Sun at all, but this track was solid enough.
Note: apparently Sakuraba did the OST for both VP and Golden Sun?  That would explain why the two tracks sounded similar to me.  :P

- Bird in the Sky from Wild Arms: I have only ever played Wild Arms 3 and hated it, but any time I hear music from the series, it makes me want to play the games.  This track is no exception.  It was insanely short, though. Sheesh.

- Don't Worry from Xenoblade Chronicles X: WHERE ARE MY FREAKING GLOW STICKS!?

- Voyage: Home World from Chrono Cross: Forget it.  Chrono Cross has the greatest soundtrack in the history of music and visual storytelling.  Death to any who disagree. DEATH!  But if this track doesn't make you want to get up and go on a journey, then you are probably already dead inside anyway.

- I could have done without you guys doing the "oh oh oh"s from Don't Worry. :P

- Also, regarding "killing characters from Trigger in Chrono Cross", keep in mind that those are alternate timeline versions of the characters.  Remember, they're from a timeline that the REAL Trigger characters ended.  It's an awesome twist that was wildly misinterpreted by Trigger fans.

- Editor's Choice, Airship from Penny Arcade Adventures 4: This was.... surprisingly solid.  I come into these kinds of tracks thinking "Western composer + joke game = bad music" but that isn't really the case here.  This was a really solid pump-up track.

Awesome stuff, guys.  On to the interview!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: MeshGearFox on June 26, 2015, 06:09:50 PM
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- Also, regarding "killing characters from Trigger in Chrono Cross", keep in mind that those are alternate timeline versions of the characters.  Remember, they're from a timeline that the REAL Trigger characters ended.  It's an awesome twist that was wildly misinterpreted by Trigger fans.

You mean the /time ghosts/ you see in the dead see? Yeah, those guys were not the ghosts of the CT cast proper, although I'm not clear if they're from a bad timeline the CT cast ended, a good timeline that the time crash ended, or a good timeline that Serge ended by not dying.

Although, Lucca IS definitely dead in Another World and it's implied that Crono and Marle are either dead or in exile in Home World, crucially there's no information about their whereabouts /after/ you fix the timelines in CC so assuming that even if they were dead during the main game, assuming that they're STILL dead after it is kind of hasty.

And then Frog and Ayla are obviously dead but I mean hey

-- edit --

Removed random paragraph intended for a different thread. WHOOPSIES.

Oh also I feel like Chrono Trigger's soundtrack was more consistent -- I don't think I stand alone when I say that Gale doesn't really do it for me and, as great as a composer Mitsuda is, boat themes just ain't his thing (Zelbess and Yggdrasil ffhadsfhahsdf)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on June 26, 2015, 06:33:10 PM
Arvis--

Actually, we have a tracklist for basically every episode other than the first two! There's a link to it in the RSS feeds, and if you go to the podcast hub, each episode also has a link there!

Also now you guys have me wanting to play Chrono Cross again.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on June 30, 2015, 06:32:36 PM
Although, Lucca IS definitely dead in Another World
For me, a character is never dead unless we see them die and get buried.  And even then, not always.

I don't know, I only played Trigger after playing Cross, so I could have easily missed important details regarding this.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on October 12, 2015, 12:08:30 PM
We're back! Sorry for the long delay in getting a new episode up, but we're finally back on track. Should have more episodes later this month and we're starting a special three-part miniseries with episode 23, so lots to look forward to!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on October 12, 2015, 02:21:22 PM
WHEEEE!!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: DtS Bard on October 16, 2015, 05:53:38 PM
Nice to have you guys back! I knew something was missing from my life. I just couldn't put my finger on it.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on November 12, 2015, 12:31:30 PM
Welp, I decided that listening to a bunch of people talking about playing a game I have never played was a little pointless, and I wanted to get to Rhythm Encounter, so... bye Retro Encounter (for now) and hello Rhythm Encounter!

Commentary on 22.9 "Casual Fundays"

- Vayne & Friends / Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
Ok, this took all of 8 seconds to put a smile on my face.  Made me want to play Animal Crossing for some reason....  No idea why.  It's not musically derivative of that series, as far as I can tell.  But the use of recorder on this melody is just too fun to not grin at.  Glad you guys agree about the recorder.
Is this the same composer as Atelier Rorona et al?  I think that's what it reminds me of.  I see you mention "Gust music", and yes, it appears that you have confirmed my suspicion about the composer.  There's definitely a familiar flavor here.
Also, I would so play "LoZ: Tuba of Time". :P

- Corn Dog / Persona Q
Flipping flip the funky funk of Persona tracks ALWAYS gets me going!!  AAAAAGH this is so good!  More games need a modern funk feel to their music.  This is just STELLAR!  I love this podcast for introducing me to stuff like this.

- Tifa's Theme / Final Fantasy VII
One of my all-time favorite theme's.  DJ Pretzel has THE definitive remix of this, called "Short Skirt".  But its strength is in the melody, which is always the case with Uematsu tracks.  There's a lot of hyperbole thrown around in internet commentary, but I feel strongly that Uematsu has the strongest grasp of melody out of all VGM composers, ever.  Even moreso than Koji Kondo, which is saying a lot.  This track is an example of this.
You're right, too, this definitely works as a location theme for 7th Heaven.

- U.M.N. Mode / Xenosaga Episode I
This takes me back.  Definitely a nice, futuristic ambiance here.
Having this play every time you open your email is a brilliant idea.  I should try and do that too...

- Piu-Piu (AKA Merchant's Song) / Chaos Rings
This........... this isn't a Mario Bros. remix?  This sounds like something right out of SMB3, for some reason.
Boogerman did have a lot of farting.  There was a powerup you could get that gave him powerful gas that allowed him to use his farts like a jetpack for a limited time.  That game was dumb as heck.

- Support Car / Mega Man Legends (unreleased)
Man, I had no idea Legends 2 had reach the $100 level on the used market.  I used to rent it from Blockbuster all the time back when it came out.  Wasted a lot of time on that 100 question quiz (or whatever it was).
Anyways, I LOVED the first Legends and think it's probably a Top 20 or so RPG on the PS1.  I've don't remember hearing this track before, but it's definitely reminiscent of the feel of the game.  Not sure it necessarily works for the theme of this episode of Rhythm Encounter, but... what the heck do I know? :P

- Salty Sailor / World of Warcraft: Taverns of Azeroth
Good lord I love tavern music.  It is ALWAYS awesome.  Always.  This is no exception.
It's definitely very Celtic, which is a classic theme for Taverns and it always works.

- Being Congenial / The Last Story
Heh, I JUST heard this over on Retro Encounter and commented about it in that thread.  This would really make great podcast intro theme music.  It sounds like something that should be playing in a hotel lobby where posh, intelligent people are having an idle discussion.
LOL, YES, DUKE SILVER!!!  No idea which host you are, but you are my hero for making that reference.  Anyways, yeah, this definitely is "night clubby" in tone.

- Illuminated by the Sunlight / Tales of Xillia
Interesting that you pronounce it "Egzillia".  It's a weird nonsense name.
But man... this track... Is it an Elympios track?  Because the Elympios music in Xillia is AMAZING, definitely nicer and more interesting to listen to than the majority of Xillia's music (which is all solid, not bad at all).  I definitely didn't think of death when I heard it, though.

- ??? / Guest's Choice (Undertale track)
I've heard Undertale has AMAZING music, so... let's do this! *listens*
...................I really need to play this game.  On top of all the positive buzz, if it has fun music like this, I just know I'll enjoy it.

And some final thoughts on this episode:

- Is there anyway you guys can crank that volume on the music during your commentary sequences?  I like having the theme you're discussing playing in the background, as it's a nice reminder of how the song sounded.  But I really couldn't hear them at all in this episode.  I could hear just enough to know they were THERE, but not enough to make out the melody or anything.  Just a suggestion.

- This is maybe one of my favorite podcasts.  I love VGM and I love video game discussion, and this one gives me equal measures of both.  I can't say enough how much I love Rhythm Encounter.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on November 12, 2015, 04:33:48 PM
Commentary on 23, "Those Who Fight"

- Battle Theme II / Magna Carta: Tears of Blood
Mmmm, classic bombast.  Definitely works for a battle theme, and it doesn't rely on its bombast to have weight; it actually dares to have a distinct melody.
Honestly... this sort of reminds me of Metal Gear Solid IV for some reason.  I like your comparison to Soul Calibur, since that series is All Bombast All The Time in its music.  This battle theme is basically Soul Calibur With A Melody, yeah.

- Unknowable Geometry / Sword and Sworcery LP
What am I even listening to?  It's not bad, but... it's odd.  Like... this belongs in an art film or something.  Kind of minimalist.

- Elf / Jeanne d'Arc
This is really nice.  Seems to borrow heavily from titles that came before it, but most things do nowadays I think.  But it borrows good bits and makes something unique.  I like this.
Stephen's sentiments about Strategy RPGs and how Tactics ruined all of them is my exact experience with the genre, btw.

- Bombardment / Skies of Arcadia
Pretty solid JRPG fare here.  I wasn't exactly moved, but it was unimpeachable, for sure.

- Battle Theme / Glory of Heracles
Hm... old school, for sure.  Some nice alteratons between minor and major notes.

- Don't Be Afraid / Final Fantasy VIII
An all-time classic, of course, and happy it's included since it often gets overshadowed by FFVIII's "other" battle theme, "The Man With The Machine Gun".  Not sure which I PREFER, but the latter gets a lot of play on VGM radio.

- Battle 2 (UNRELEASED TRACK) / Chrono Trigger
This seriously just makes me want to play F-Zero.  Am I the only one?

- ...Steel for Humans / The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
This is crazy.  I mean... it's good, but.... ugh, this is my problem with modern VGM.  It just sounds like regular ol' music.  That's a dumb criticism isn't it?  Anyways, this track is just... trying way too hard.  I think it succeeds at being what it wants to be, but... it's really not my thing when it comes to VGM.

- Blue Radiance / Radiant Historia
THIS is more like what I am looking for in VGM. ;)
Not that I hate all modern VGM.  Skyrim has one of my all-time favorite soundtracks.  But I yearn for tracks that evoke heart, and that means memorable melodies and superlative instrumentation (synth or otherwise).  That Witcher 3 track didn't have either, and this has both.
I should probably clarify that I have not played Witcher III, nor shall I.  I must also admit that I also had to drop Radiant Historia due to the sluggish battles.  Still plan on going back to it someday.

- Celestia Battle / Tales of Eternia
LOL, this is so classic Tales I can hardly believe it.  There was some REALLY weird high-pitched synth in there at one point that, in my headphones, sounded really surreal and I thought for sure it was coming from somewhere in my surroundings.  I actually had to take my headphones out for a second.  Not sure what that was.  I think it was during what would be called "the breakdown", you know what I'm talking about?

- Critical Hit! / Wild ARMs
Hm, this is good, but not as Wild ARMs-y as I expected.  Whatever that means.  This felt kind of like a combination of.... idk, Legend of Heroes and Turtles in Time??

- What Appeared in Eternity's End / Tales of Graces
Mmmm, this is very nice.  I never finished Graces but plan on doing so someday.  Thanks for not spoiling it.

- ??? / Guest's Choice (Super Mario RPG track)
I whistled this out loud in my office.  I don't even care.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on November 13, 2015, 05:46:18 PM
Commentary on 24, "Those Who Fight Further"

- By the way, nice FFVII references with the titles of these last two episodes. :P

- Fire Eyes / Secret of Evermore Remastered Tracks
I completely approve of the ambient nature sounds in this track.  I enjoy instrumental music that can pull that off, and it's used to great effect here.

- Final Fantasy Tactics / Legacy Sessions: GAME Generation 5
Actually kinds bummed this is a piano solo piece as I, in general, don't think boss themes work as solos.  But it's certainly an interesting way to experience this familiar and wonderful melody.

- The Forest of Awakening (for String Orchestra and Piano) / The ETHEReal String Project
This is very pretty.  I like it a lot.

- Faith in Her Fury / Before the Fall: Final Fantasy XIV
It's weird having two FFXIV tracks next to each other.  I wasn't sure if it was one long track that had a major shift or something.  This one doesn't have much variety and the melody is weak, but I like the instrumentation a lot.

- Don't Speak Her Name! / Fire Emblem: Awakening
Man, I don't remember this track from FE:A.  It's fantastic.  A very strong, evocative orchestral piece that uses it's lush and complex instrumentation to great effect.

- Battle 2 / Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Mystic Quest is horrible and NOT cool at all, but the music really is VERY good.  VERY VERY good.  And this is a wonderful example of that.  This is like Mega Man X levels of awesome SNES music, before Mega Man X was even a thing.

- Plosive Attack / Parasite Eve
I don't think I've listened to Parasite Eve music in forever.  The music works really well in the context of the game.  Like... really well.  But by itself, it's not particularly interesting to listen to.
PLEASE don't say "on fleek".  Please. :( :( :(
I'll be honest, I had NO IDEA Shimomura composed the Paraste Eve soundtrack.  That blows my mind.

- Saber's Edge / Final Fantasy XIII
Good ol' FFXIII music.  It's all pretty darn solid.

- Boss Battle (AKA Battle 2) / Final Fantasy IV DS
Ha!  I heard a lot of this not too long ago when I played through the FFIV: Complete Collection.  That was an amazing game.  I really don't like the original FFIV, but it's music was always really very good.  I can't say I'm a superfan of IV's battle themes, but they're definitely good.  Not FFVI level good, of course!  MEYERINK.  >____>

- This Journey Without End / Last Ranker
For some reason, this reminds me of the first Ninja Turtles movie (from like 1991).  But I really like it.  I liked it in the first few notes, actually.

- Atolm Dragon Battle Theme / Panzer Dragoon Saga
Yeah, I've never played this game either, but I am consistently impressed with its music.  That synthy woodwinds sound underneath that urgent percussion... so cool sounding.

- Beauty and the Shining Sword / Wild Arms XF
I gotta play this game.  This music is fun.  For me, it kinda harkens back to a lot of old brawlers I used to play for some reason.  Like the music just makes me want to jump kick my way through wave after wave of thugs.  I know you can't do that in WA:XF but still, this is a good pump-up song.

- I'll Face Myself (Battle) / Never More -Reincarnation: Persona 4-
This isn't my favorite of the stuff I've heard from Persona 4 (not enough funk, yo) but it's still really good. And it uses that same... uh... electro-synth-orchestra-hit thingy that "Heartbeat Heartbreak" uses, iirc.  So that's cool.  And that soft piano solo ending was amazing.  Nice touch.

- Uncontrollable / Xenoblade Chronicles X
First of all, I love the puns.  Second of all, the letter "x" is not pronounced "cross" so... let's just stop that right now.  Third of all, this song is pretty hot.  Could do without the lame vocals, but Xenoblade's music consistently impresses me.

- Megalomania / Live a Live
Awwwwwwwwwhahahahaa this is awesome.  I love this particular old school vibe, it works so well.  Even modern-day chiptunes lose an important je ne sais quoi that these older games had.  That Shimomura lady is just........ I mean, what a talent.  I wish everyone spoke of her in the same breath as Uematsu, Mitsuda, and Kondo.  And... well, I guess most VGM aficionados do. :P

- la L'inno per il IDOLA / Phantasy Star Online 2
This is... ok.  Seems unremarkable, which is my normal reaction to everything I hear from Phantasy Star music, in general.
I've never heard of a game that CHANGES its music on the fly.... not that I know of.... 0___o
Seems like such a neat idea.

- Congrats on moving to Japan, Stephen.  I am envious, for sure.

- ??? / Secret Guest's Choice (Grandia Extreme track)
Oooooohhhh, nice instrumental breakdown.  I like that it gets all soft and the percussion takes a break.  That was nice.  The rest of the track is solid, too, but not special.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on November 13, 2015, 10:20:27 PM
- Illuminated by the Sunlight / Tales of Xillia
Interesting that you pronounce it "Egzillia".  It's a weird nonsense name.
But man... this track... Is it an Elympios track?  Because the Elympios music in Xillia is AMAZING, definitely nicer and more interesting to listen to than the majority of Xillia's music (which is all solid, not bad at all).  I definitely didn't think of death when I heard it, though.

Actually, it plays in Rieze Maxia in the first half of the game (well, that's where it first plays anyway; I forget if it plays later on in Elympios). Also plays in Xillia 2 in a couple of places, mostly the quieter scenes during some of the character episodes.

And I'm kind of weird in that I sometimes use the Japanese pronunciation for games. According to the kana, the X in Xillia is pronounced "ex" instead of "zee" (in fact, there is no "zee" sound in Japanese IIRC), so that's what I went with. But yeah, it is a nonsense name (like most Tales of games), and I've heard lots of different pronunciations. This is just the way I've always pronounced it. Like I said, I'm weird. :)

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- Is there anyway you guys can crank that volume on the music during your commentary sequences?  I like having the theme you're discussing playing in the background, as it's a nice reminder of how the song sounded.  But I really couldn't hear them at all in this episode.  I could hear just enough to know they were THERE, but not enough to make out the melody or anything.  Just a suggestion.

I'll definitely make sure to pass this onto Mike, if he hasn't already seen this. ;)

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- This is maybe one of my favorite podcasts.  I love VGM and I love video game discussion, and this one gives me equal measures of both.  I can't say enough how much I love Rhythm Encounter.

And if I may steal the AT&T gag, I can't say how much I love that you love our show!

- Faith in Her Fury / Before the Fall: Final Fantasy XIV
It's weird having two FFXIV tracks next to each other.  I wasn't sure if it was one long track that had a major shift or something.  This one doesn't have much variety and the melody is weak, but I like the instrumentation a lot.

That's just one long track.

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- Don't Speak Her Name! / Fire Emblem: Awakening
Man, I don't remember this track from FE:A.  It's fantastic.  A very strong, evocative orchestral piece that uses it's lush and complex instrumentation to great effect.

It sadly only played in a single battle and you couldn't select it for random battles. But it was amazing. Unlike almost every other battle in the game, the music played during both the player and enemy's turns, so you got to experience its awesomeness throughout the entire fight.

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- Uncontrollable / Xenoblade Chronicles X
First of all, I love the puns.  Second of all, the letter "x" is not pronounced "cross" so... let's just stop that right now.  Third of all, this song is pretty hot.  Could do without the lame vocals, but Xenoblade's music consistently impresses me.

So, I mentioned before that I'm kind of weird and use Japanese pronunciations at times? This is another one of those times.

The letter X by itself isn't pronounced "cross" in English, you're right, but the Japanese actually have taken to pronouncing it as such in game titles as of late. Take Project X Zone or Street Fighter X Tekken, for example. They're both stylized with an X but pronounced "cross". Xenoblade is the same. The romanized Japanese title is Zenobureido Kurosu, which is literally Xenoblade Cross. Yes, I know that Nintendo is calling it X for the localized version, but Cross sounds a whole lot better to me than X and I'm used to calling it that. I try to pronounce it both ways when I announce something because I don't want our listeners who only know it as X to get confused, but I'm still going to keep calling it Cross. Plus, you can call the game Xenocross for short that way, which sounds pretty cool IMHO.  ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on November 16, 2015, 10:38:15 AM
Hey, thanks for the replies! :)

I think the Japanese will always have weird/unfamiliar titles/pronunciations for their games.  I'm used to it.  I will still be sticking with the established Western pronunciations of things, though.

When is the next Rhythm Encounter being released?
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on November 16, 2015, 10:55:55 AM
Oh I definitely agree with you on the weirdness of their titles. It's a kind of quirkiness that is pretty uniquely Japanese, for better or worse.

We're working on episode 25 right now, but I'm not exactly sure when we'll post. It ended up being quite the jam-packed finale to our little battle miniseries, so there's a lot to listen to. It shouldn't be too long of a wait, though, so you can "please look forward to it." ;)

Sorry, Square, that meme is never going to die.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on November 16, 2015, 04:57:19 PM
That is one of the few "memes" that I use irl.  I say "please look forward to it" to people weekly.  It's almost become a reflex.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dice on November 23, 2015, 01:57:07 PM
I'm sad I've missed so many of your responses Arvis...  Great write ups, and at risk of just quoting a bunch of stuff I'll definitely keep an eye on this topic in the future.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on November 23, 2015, 02:44:50 PM
Thanks, Dice!  Sometimes a few episodes can come out before I can get to them, though.  I follow too many podcasts.  For example, I am backed up on Axe of the Blood God episodes back to July.  So I have 14 of those waiting for me, 1 hour each.  Yeah.  But I'll always get to Rhythm Encounter eventually and I will always leave my commentaries, because I love VGM too much not to. :P
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on November 23, 2015, 05:30:04 PM
I subscribe to 29 podcasts and my backlog is around 100 episodes.  Send help.  Or more RPGs where I can grind and listen to podcasts at the same time. 
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on November 23, 2015, 06:45:59 PM
Wow.  I had to back off on mine, because I couldn't stand the backlog any more.  I'm down to 12, and at least 2 of them don't update on a normal basis.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Monsoon on November 23, 2015, 08:07:13 PM
A good 6 or 7 of mine aren't updating regularly, but... yeah.  Bill Simmons and Marc Maron alone are like 8 hours per week.  I'm never going to catch up :(
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: missRPGirl on December 17, 2015, 04:21:46 PM
It helps to have a job where you can subscribe to podcasts on the computers iTunes and listen to it all day long :D
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on December 17, 2015, 05:02:23 PM
It helps to have a job where you can subscribe to podcasts on the computers iTunes and listen to it all day long :D

That's me. :)
But half of my job is too mentally taxing to get anything out of listening to people talk.  I need music for those times.  So I still get super backed up on podcasts.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: insertnamehere on December 31, 2015, 01:17:33 AM
Speaking of final boss themes, I like this one even though it's a bit artsy as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fId01ehxU0g
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: missRPGirl on January 15, 2016, 03:59:37 PM
I've been listening to a few Rhythm Encounter podcast and I've got to say I am impressed of how much you guys like video game music. I'm sure you guys buy soundtracks to your favourite artist, but by any chance do you know if any of the people you mention are in any music subscriptions like Xobx music (currently changed it to Groove music). I know people like Jack Wall, Yasunori Mitsuda and Nobuo Uematsu are on there but do you know of anyone else? It doesn't have to be Groove Music. Chances are if they are in one music subscription channel they're on others.

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on January 20, 2016, 01:12:10 AM
Thanks for the kind words! As much as I didn't want to reply with a shrug, I figure it's better than none - I don't use Groove (or well, have my Xbox hooked up), so I'm not sure. I'm surprised that Mitsuda and Uematsu are on there, though! That's pretty cool. And that's in North America? Hopefully there's more too - I know I tend to get surprised when I stumble across Japanese artists on the US iTunes Store. Square Enix and Sega actually have a lot of music on there, and not just from the likes of Uematsu - there's a great deal of their properties represented, even if the selection is seemingly random - such as the only Yoko Shimomura album being Live A Live, a game that didn't even release here!

So, there's my non-answer! :D But if you or anyone else has an interesting find on Groove or any other music service, be sure to let us know. You never know what you may find out there.

Speaking of final boss themes, I like this one even though it's a bit artsy as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fId01ehxU0g

That is so... bizarre and unsettling. It's just "off" enough that I imagine the battle itself is equally odd.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on January 20, 2016, 05:19:54 PM
Thoughts on Retro Encounter 25 - "Terminus Est"

- Holy freakin crap!  DICE!  I can hear you!!  How did I miss the fact that you're on this podcast now??

- Polpota Harbor / Legend of Mana: Promise
See now, THIS is perfect for solo piano.  It has the right emotion and is fun without being TOO fun - if that makes sense.  It makes me want to.... cook or build something.  Quite good.  "Dancing along the notes" is a great way of describing it, actually.

- I was listening to a big band rendition of some Super Mario 64 music at work once, and was flat out dancing in my chair until I realized one of my coworkers could actually see me....

- Corridors of Time / To Far Away Times: Chrono Trigger & Chrono Cross Arrange
Been waiting for this........ *closes eyes*
The vocals won me over very quickly.  It's weird: I was EXPECTING to get goosebumps and tears, and when I expect it it doesn't happen.  But this time it happened anyways.  That's how gorgeous this was.

- The loop on "Robo's Theme" is just too short, guys.

- Cid's Theme / Materia: Final Fantasy VII Remixed
I know it's heresy to claim any FFVII character theme is better than Tifa's, but... this is my favorite FFVII charactr theme.  So freaking heroic and epic.  And this remix does all kinds of justice to it.  Great justice, even.  I think if anyone listened to this not knowing anything about VII, they would HAVE to assume that Cid was the hero of the whole dang story.  And for me... he always was....

- DICE!  >:(
Cid is TOTALLY heroic and epic!  How dare you???

- Hitotsu no Owari wo Mukaete / Yoru no Nai Kuni
Mmmm.... cello.......  I wish I had more to say about this because it's lovely.
Incidentally, back when I was a teen, my dad and I bought Chrono Cross because of the music in the opening movie.

- Hyron / Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Ok, so I've never played this game.  But the visual look of the game is very "sci-fi bland", if that makes sense.  So I assumed this would be as bland as the visuals.  It was not.  It wasn't stellar, but it did enough things right to grab my attention.  I liked the the hectic feel of the synthy "space notes" that kept popping underneath all the other instrumentation.*
* Sounds like exactly the same sound you guys were trying to describe in the commentary.  Never thought about the thematic harmony in using "synthetic" with "human vocals".  Nice.

- Unseen Abyss / Final Fantasy XIII-2
This started off blah and then turned into James Bond music and after that transitioned into a discordant mess of orchestra hits before finally coalescing into The Evening News From Space.  Then it looped back to blah.  Are you sure this is from a Final Fantasy game?

- Dialga's Fight to the Finish / Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky
I think this really benefited from following right after "Unseen Abyss", because it put childlike grin on my face.  I love the lo-fi, synthy flute that drives the melody.  I need more lo-fi synthy flute in my life.  The track is also structured quite nicely; it has sections.  I feel like it almost tells a bit of a story, which a lot of the best RPG music does.

- Finish the Promise / Tales of the Abyss
I never really expect "super-great" from Tales of music, but I feel like this is pretty exceptional.  Especially for a boss fight!  However, I'm not particularly versed in Tales boss music, much less FINAL boss music.  I just know that it's never made an impression on me from the games in the series I have played.  But as I said, this is quite good!

- Pretty sure MissRPGirl already said this, but you guys really freakin' know your VG Music.  The way Dice just referenced the Lost Odyssey final boss theme and Meyerink jumped right on it... I was impressed.

- I'll have to finish this up later.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on January 20, 2016, 08:43:27 PM
- Holy freakin crap!  DICE!  I can hear you!!  How did I miss the fact that you're on this podcast now??
She was great to have on there, even when we had to wark-out her Canadian expletives. :D We've talked about having her back, so feel free to join in on the nudging!

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- Corridors of Time / To Far Away Times: Chrono Trigger & Chrono Cross Arrange
Been waiting for this........ *closes eyes*
The vocals won me over very quickly.  It's weird: I was EXPECTING to get goosebumps and tears, and when I expect it it doesn't happen.  But this time it happened anyways.  That's how gorgeous this was.
My feelings about this album were and are identical to you: Expectations were through the roof, but this album surpassed what I even hoped it would be.

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- The loop on "Robo's Theme" is just too short, guys.
Aha, someone caught it! You're talking about the bit around 29m? When Stephen and Stephanie burst into song, I had to sneak in a little piece in the background. But! It's not Robo's Song, but Gato, as they sung Gato's Song. Specifically, it's "Joints of Metal" from the stellar - possibly overlooked - Chrono Cinematica (https://loudr.fm/release/chrono-cinematica/rYysz) album. I strongly urge people to check it out.

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- Cid's Theme / Materia: Final Fantasy VII Remixed
I know it's heresy to claim any FFVII character theme is better than Tifa's, but... this is my favorite FFVII charactr theme.  So freaking heroic and epic.  And this remix does all kinds of justice to it.  Great justice, even.  I think if anyone listened to this not knowing anything about VII, they would HAVE to assume that Cid was the hero of the whole dang story.  And for me... he always was....
Tifa's Theme is probably my next-favorite character theme, but yeah, Cid's is my first choice, too. Stephen especially laid out Cid's heroically tragic past well in the episode, and even though I knew all that, it made me think about it and respect his theme (the original and this arrangement) even more.

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- Unseen Abyss / Final Fantasy XIII-2
This started off blah and then turned into James Bond music and after that transitioned into a discordant mess of orchestra hits before finally coalescing into The Evening News From Space.  Then it looped back to blah.  Are you sure this is from a Final Fantasy game?
Aw, I'm sad you didn't care for this one. It's not like Uematsu's work, but I love the music in all three XIII titles. If you're unsure about this one, I'd recommend looking up Time's Master and Heart of Chaos. I like both a bit more, but they're pre-final boss fights, so I couldn't bring them here. :)

If you add more later, I'll look forward to it! But thanks for listening, for the kind words, and for the already-extensive commentary! This episode in particular was a TON of work. We... may have been sidetracked often between segments, so when I sat down to edit, I had a 5-hour Skype call to sort out. The extra music and extended commentary was also more than we usually do. So, it was a bit of an editing nightmare, but I'm really proud of everyone's efforts, and it felt fitting to close out our battle trilogy with a super-sized show.

So again, we appreciate that you all listen and have comments on our work, cause it makes it all worthwhile. :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on January 21, 2016, 11:17:57 AM
:)

RE: Dice
Yes, it's no secret that I am a fan of Dice, so it was cool to get an audio version of her distinct personality here.  Also, everyone agrees she knows her crap, especially when it comes to VGM, so I'm always interested in her viewpoints/opinions, the same way that I have developed respect for all the views of the RPGFan podcasters over years of listening.  So yes: more Dice on podcasts, please and thank you.

RE: Trigger/Cross Arrange album
How precisely can I purchase this album?

RE: Cid
You are a person of exquisite taste.  And yeah, Meyerink really nailed it in this part of the discussion.  He said everything that needed to be said.  I think he even converted the non-believers.  DICE... >___>

RE:  FFXIII-2's music
I REALLY do not like FFXIII-2.  It's maybe the worst FF I have ever played.  Maybe.  But there is no arguing that its soundtrack is amazing.  Like, seriously good.  So even I am surprised and sad that I didn't care for that track :(

RE: Commenting on this amazing podcast
I've been listening to VGM for about 15+ years?  The last 8-10 years pretty regularly.  And do you know how many people in my life I can have a discussion with about VGM?  That's right: ZERO PEOPLE.  So this podcast is a godsend and I am always eager to be a part of the discussion.  Hence the effort to comment on every track.

I may not even be able to finish this episode today, but I will give it priority in my podcast rotation until it is complete.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on January 21, 2016, 11:29:02 AM
RE: Trigger/Cross Arrange album
How precisely can I purchase this album?

CD Japan (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/SQEX-10501)
Play-Asia (http://www.play-asia.com/chrono-trigger-chrono-cross-arrange-album-harukanaru-toki-no-k/13/7092k9)
Yes Asia (http://www.yesasia.com/us/chrono-trigger-chrono-cross-arrange-album-harukanaru-toki-no-kanata/1044810621-0-0-0-en/info.html)

It's also sold from the Square Enix store, but the US site (https://store.na.square-enix.com/product/286966/chrono-trigger-chrono-cross-arrangement-album-cd) is out of stock ATM. EU site (https://store.eu.square-enix.com/emea_europe/merchandise/Chrono-Trigger-Chrono-Cross-Arranged-Album.php) has it, though, if you're in that neck of the woods.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on January 21, 2016, 05:05:08 PM
Thoughts on Retro Encounter 25 - "Terminus Est" Continued

- The Creator / Sands of Destruction
Are you sure this isn't actually from, like, Illusion of Gaia or something?  One of those SNES-era adventure titles that always had amazing music?  That's what it reminds me of.  I have no clue what "Sands of Destruction" even is, sorry.  But the nostalgia is strong with this one....
*Oh, Mitsuda did this.  Now it all makes sense.

- The End of the Beginning / Wild Arms 3
My experience with the Wild Arms series is sorely lacking.  However, I have heard a lot of music from the franchise, and it never fails to impress.  It's seriously good.  They often have what I call "whistling motifs" to get that Western feel.  I just love that synth whistling sound they often use.  This track uses it so well, too: the whole thing would be complete without it, but adding it on top of the already strong instrumentation gives it that Wild Arms Flavor.
*Wait.... that whistling isn't synthesized?  What!?

- Answers (Bahamut Prime Complete) / Final Fantasy XIV
I'm one of those dorks that hates on XI and XIV for having Roman numerals, but man you can't argue with the music in those two games.  Susan Calloway's rendition of "Distant Worlds" from XI is THE GREATEST vocal song from any Final Fantasy, so getting more of that here with "Answers" is just.... lovely.  It doesn't have quite the emotional impact on me that "Distant Worlds" has, but it's still a spine-tingling experience.  Can't believe this plays during a final boss.  It's gotta be just.... mind-bogglingly epic to experience that.
Good god, that lyric:
"Tell us why / given life / we are meant to die / hear us in our cry"  GAaaaaaaahhhhhhh, the goosebumps!

- Battle for Freedom / Final Fantasy XII
I love Sakimoto and XII's soundtrack.  I think it's pretty underappreciated, simply because so much of the OST fades into the background of the game.  But I think that's one of the great things about it: the sense of emotion and of "flavor" (for lack of a better word) that Sakimoto punched into this work.  You hear it, and you can immediately visualize the world you're in.  The music takes you there just as effectively as the visuals. And don't even get me started on the audio fidelity.  So good.  The structure of this track is extremely impressive.  The loop is crazy long and the piece goes through several different "feelings" over that time.  It's awesome.  But I am a massive fan of Final Fantasy Tactics and Valkyria Chronicles, so... I'm biased, I admit it.
*Oooh, "cinematic" is a great word for what this track is doing.  And yes, you guys are very right: this music IS Ivalice.  Man, I want to spend more time in that world.... *sigh*

- Welp, another break.  Part 3 to come...
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on January 21, 2016, 08:30:44 PM
- The End of the Beginning / Wild Arms 3
My experience with the Wild Arms series is sorely lacking.  However, I have heard a lot of music from the franchise, and it never fails to impress.  It's seriously good.  They often have what I call "whistling motifs" to get that Western feel.  I just love that synth whistling sound they often use.  This track uses it so well, too: the whole thing would be complete without it, but adding it on top of the already strong instrumentation gives it that Wild Arms Flavor.
*Wait.... that whistling isn't synthesized?  What!?
This song (and other WA tracks people have brought on the show) was what finally convinced me to check out WA3. I have it, now I just need to find time to play it. ;)

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- Answers (Bahamut Prime Complete) / Final Fantasy XIV
...Can't believe this plays during a final boss.  It's gotta be just.... mind-bogglingly epic to experience that.
Good god, that lyric:
"Tell us why / given life / we are meant to die / hear us in our cry"  GAaaaaaaahhhhhhh, the goosebumps!
This is the battle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdnhbTqkPJs), if you want to hear it on context. It's people strategizing, but they do have the music turned up. This is the best way to really understand how the song transitions during battle, and how awesome the final segment is (also, for the tanks, yes, that Akh Morn attacks hurts BAD).

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- Battle for Freedom / Final Fantasy XII
And yes, you guys are very right: this music IS Ivalice.  Man, I want to spend more time in that world.... *sigh*
Me too. I hope there's more to come one day.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: missRPGirl on January 22, 2016, 09:53:37 AM
Thanks for the kind words! As much as I didn't want to reply with a shrug, I figure it's better than none - I don't use Groove (or well, have my Xbox hooked up), so I'm not sure. I'm surprised that Mitsuda and Uematsu are on there, though! That's pretty cool. And that's in North America? Hopefully there's more too - I know I tend to get surprised when I stumble across Japanese artists on the US iTunes Store. Square Enix and Sega actually have a lot of music on there, and not just from the likes of Uematsu - there's a great deal of their properties represented, even if the selection is seemingly random - such as the only Yoko Shimomura album being Live A Live, a game that didn't even release here!

So, there's my non-answer! :D But if you or anyone else has an interesting find on Groove or any other music service, be sure to let us know. You never know what you may find out there.

Speaking of final boss themes, I like this one even though it's a bit artsy as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fId01ehxU0g

That is so... bizarre and unsettling. It's just "off" enough that I imagine the battle itself is equally odd.

Yeah the last interesting thing I found on Groove music was the soundtrack to Spore Hero.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arklight on January 22, 2016, 11:51:38 AM
Dice is the reason a censorship noise exists now.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on January 22, 2016, 04:50:42 PM
Thoughts on Retro Encounter 25 - "Terminus Est" Continued

- First, thanks to Lian Kaiziri for the links to that Trigger/Cross Arrange album.  Unfortunately, I can't spend $30 on it, since I am married.  :(

- Last Battle / Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille Zur Macht
Man, I REALLY don't remember Xenosaga having any tracks this..... Chrono Cross-y.  O___o
Obviously, I approve.  All RPG music should strive to be Chrono Cross-y.  Those strings, man..... those glorious strings...

- Final Boss Theme / Fire Emblem Fates
Man, right from the opening choir notes this grabbed me.  This is a track that tells a clear story.  I was already planning on pre-ordering this game (something I haven't done with ANY game in YEARS) and now I want to preorder it even more.  This might actually be one of my favorite tracks on this whole episode.  I can't even pick a few things about it I like, it's just... amazing all the way around.

- The Day That Falls Upon the World / Luminous Arc 2
It's ok to be a Shimomura fanboy, Meyerink.  In fact, it's a good thing that we should all aspire towards.  So no apologies necessary, especially not for this track, which was quite excellent.  Love the "calm" sections of the track, where the percussion stops and it becomes mournful (with the telltale violin :P), before picking back up into the "desperation" feel of the rest of the piece.

- Unrestrained Struggle / Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
I make no bones about being in love with what I call "the Tri-Ace sound font"; that synthy hyper-orchestration feel, where even Sleeping At An Inn Themes sound like they're done by a 60-piece orchestra.  Yes, generally this style makes the music feel overdone, and I think you could level that criticism at this track as well, but I love it anyways.  When I was a kid, that "overdone" quality to the music of games like Star Ocean and Valkyrie Profile made everything feel heavier and more important.  I loved that feeling, and the music still makes me feel that way.
*Can't say as I know how "Unrestrained Struggle" is an oxymoron, though.

- Dice, how exactly do you hang out with your parents?  Or get through job interviews? :P

- Suicide Mission / Mass Effect 2
Love the ambiance here.  Very nice use of brass here to drive home that depth-of-feeling that's permeating this track.

- ??? / ??? (Chrono Trigger final boss theme)
Definitely a fan of the Chrono Trigger album, of course.  That crazy noise that keeps jumping back and forth from the left to the right messed my brain up a little, I think.  All in all, not a particularly great track.  Doesn't do anything spectacular, but it's still very good.  Hangs with a lot of the better final boss themes, even if it's a weaker Mitsuda work.

- Calling From a Distance / Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
I really appreciate the use of organ here to drive the emotion.  A lot of final boss themes use organ, of course, but I like it when a composer doesn't shy away from using it.  It's such an evocative instrument.

- Battle 1~3 / Preludio (Mystic Quest)
GAAAAAAAHHHH MQ music is so freaking good!  And this remix (remaster?) of it definitely works!  Man, I am so PUMPED listening to this!  YES!  MORE GUITAR SOLOS!!

- Oh, yes, Retta... major shout out to Retta for all the comments he/she is making here.... definitely... glad we got that done.... *looks around*  Who the heck is Retta???  >:(

- BONUS TRACK: The Best Final Boss Theme of All Time / ??? (One-Winged Angel NOT! IT'S DANCING MAD)
I'm sorry, but even if I am sick to death of One-Winged Angel, it's a better final boss theme than Dancing Mad.  But ONLY JUST BARELY.  Both of them are the Top 2 best final boss themes ever and I really don;t think anything else even comes close.
Seriously, though, you trolled me so hard with the psyche-out.  Nice use of the Kefka laugh, of course.
What is there to even say about Dancing Mad, anyways?  Nobuo Uematsu was in some kind of creative trance when he did the soundtracks to VI and VII.  To this day, it boggles my mind and makes my eyes water to think about him summoning these two beautiful soundtracks from deep within himself.  Maybe someday there will be a composer who has a body of work that can compare to these two OSTs, but... I don't know when that day might come.
Uematsu is the Greatest of All Time.  The Da Vinci, Tesla, and Beatles of VGM.  The mathematical probability of any future VGM composer reaching his level of genius is very low.  His is a once-in-a-lifetime talent and I am so so so privileged to have seen him play in person at a Distant Worlds concert.  Thank you, and good night.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dalamud_Descends on February 03, 2016, 11:25:28 AM
Hey there!

 I found your podcast while randomly searching iTunes podcasts for RPG's and am I glad that I did!  I love that there are people out there who love game music as much as I do.  I marathoned all your podcasts over the course of a week and was sad to see it come to the end where I have to wait for another.  Enough gushing though.  On to the important stuff!

1.  Xenoblade OST is a mixed bag that has awesome themes (Don't Worry and THEMEX being two at the front of my mind) and atrocious themes (NLA theme : night or day...bad Engrish rap and repetitive banging on guitars). All in all I appreciate the separation from Xenoblade, but some of it is definitely jarring.

2.  I share Meyerink's love of all things Shimomura.  She has a way of being diverse while maintaining a consistency in her music.

3. While I have enjoyed your musical selections, there seems to be an extreme lack of Noriyuki Iwadare music.  Grandia and the Lunar series have some of the best music from the PSOne era that needs to be played.  One that would have been great for the New Beginnings episode was Field to Tomorrow when Jean goes from dancer to kick-ass karate master!

Anyways, those are just some random thoughts to introduce myself on the boards!  Keep the podcasts coming!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on February 03, 2016, 12:10:28 PM
Hm, did we not have a Lunar track in a recent episode? I think it was on my shortlist for one of our themes, unless I'm confused and I'm thinking of an upcoming episode... ;) But I agree, both series have good music, so I'm sure they'll show up at some point! You should see what we go through to settle on our picks for each episode... lots of hard decisions are made. For our next regular episode, I'm still trying to decide how I'm going to cut down my 8 selections to 3 or 4!

But thanks for listening and for the comments! Welcome aboard! I'm impressed you could marathon the whole show that fast, especially considering the extreme length of our Music of the Year 2014 shows. But don't worry, we're not too far away from more Rhythm Encounter goodness, so just stay tuned~
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on February 03, 2016, 03:33:17 PM
3. While I have enjoyed your musical selections, there seems to be an extreme lack of Noriyuki Iwadare music.  Grandia and the Lunar series have some of the best music from the PSOne era that needs to be played.  One that would have been great for the New Beginnings episode was Field to Tomorrow when Jean goes from dancer to kick-ass karate master!

WHO SAID IWADARE?? Hey there! Thanks for joining up and enjoying the show! Are you a fan of Iwadare? What are some of your favorite game soundtrack done by him? :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dalamud_Descends on February 03, 2016, 04:14:22 PM
I am a huge fan of Iwadare!!  The soundtrack to Eternal Blue was his best work IMO.  It expanded on the adventurous tone that was set in the Silver Star and cranked it up to 11!  Everytime I hear the main theme, I get chills.  And as I stated earlier, Field to Tomorrow is one of the best field themes.  I used to just sit and let it play over and over.  The entire Lunar series' music is amazing. 

It really is hard to not love most of his music as Grandia and the Ace Attorney series all have very fitting music for their settings.  Also, while I've never played the Langrisser series before, I might have to pull a Meyerink and purchase Re:Incarnation just to hear his music again!

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on February 03, 2016, 04:40:21 PM
Hey, I also ended up registering for these here boards because of Rhythm Encounter. :)

Nice to have one more VGM fan around.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dice on February 03, 2016, 08:04:09 PM
So yes: more Dice on podcasts, please and thank you.

(http://i.imgur.com/HxYEfKY.gif)
Thanks so much Arvis, I had so much fun with everyone too.  It was a good outlet from playing it for my non-gaming friends who I'm sure only listen to me because we are friends.

RE Cid's Theme: I barely remember what I said on Cid's theme, if it was bad I must have phrased myself wrong because he's always in my party and I'm always doing that synth-y sounding hum-along when his theme is on. xD  I think at worst I mentioned his theme was a lot more nobler than his characters comes off on the outside.  But I think FF7 Cid is a true onion --- he's got many layers. ;)

The Chrono Trigger selection... I dunno, I thought it was a little unexpected and I sort of like how modern it is; along with the Ocean Palace theme, I really respect they went sort of tech-y sounding on it when so many games (esp the SNES era) were doing a more medieval thing and how many STILL go for more grand orchestrations.  The CT album is very melodic (expect, appropriately, during the 65,000 BCE).  Lavos is a weird creature, I don't think a standard boss theme would have worked here --- especially when it does go to the glowy phase of the boss fight.  That calculated rhythm of the final boss theme really works well against the Lavos SCREEEEEECCCH that plays during it too.

I agree with you on One Winged Angel.  I never adored it to begin with, so to my surprise seeing it get only more popular as time when on was just baffling to me --- especially since Dancing Mad is such a more complicated tune.  I respect that OWA has that awesome vocal quality, and I like it as a crazy obsessive chant for a crazy obsessive villain... But Dancing Mad was just cooler to me (that power of that synth organ cannot be denied).

And yeah that Xenosaga Ep I OST.  Oh man imagine if the whole game was orchestrated, but overall I think the silent corridors for like 70% of the game sort of sours the experience of the whole album --- the negative literally being "Why isn't there more music" is such a bittersweet thing.  I do like that final boss theme, Mitsuda is so damn good with real emotional work and that's what I really get from that final boss theme.  Of all fucking tunes from the OST I like it's the victory theme (https://youtu.be/h3x-GkZyQlQ)...  I think I just love victory themes in general though. 

And I think it'd be good to add real quick that Yuki Kijiura did a damn fine job taking the reins up afterward.

Hey there!

 I found your podcast while randomly searching iTunes podcasts for RPG's and am I glad that I did!  I love that there are people out there who love game music as much as I do.  I marathoned all your podcasts over the course of a week and was sad to see it come to the end where I have to wait for another.  Enough gushing though.  On to the important stuff!

1.  Xenoblade OST is a mixed bag that has awesome themes (Don't Worry and THEMEX being two at the front of my mind) and atrocious themes (NLA theme : night or day...bad Engrish rap and repetitive banging on guitars). All in all I appreciate the separation from Xenoblade, but some of it is definitely jarring.

2.  I share Meyerink's love of all things Shimomura.  She has a way of being diverse while maintaining a consistency in her music.

3. While I have enjoyed your musical selections, there seems to be an extreme lack of Noriyuki Iwadare music.  Grandia and the Lunar series have some of the best music from the PSOne era that needs to be played.  One that would have been great for the New Beginnings episode was Field to Tomorrow when Jean goes from dancer to kick-ass karate master!

Anyways, those are just some random thoughts to introduce myself on the boards!  Keep the podcasts coming!

I SORT OF agree about the Xenoblade X OST being a mixed bag.  More specifically though, the tracks I like I LOVE and the tracks I don't like I still can listen to.  While I doubt I can listen to the NLA theme casually on iTunes, I still love it in-game and it feels like it works for the busy and hip sanctuary that NLA is.  I do wish they added a few other tunes and maybe did sort of cool transitions to different areas having different tunes instead of the one repetitve beat (I loved the Skyloft Marketplace in Zelda Skyward Sword for this).  I think the music in Sylvalum and Noctilum is absolutely *perfect*.... but then your Oblivia and Primordia sound like your basic "jurassic world RPG" tunes and...meh.  It's definitely a powerful OST and overall it totally works, but naturally it can't be perfect track-to-track.

And yes Shimomura is outstanding. 
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on February 04, 2016, 09:12:10 AM
I agree with everyone who supports my unabashed Shimomura fanboying.

And I apologize that I haven't been around to make as any comments or responses to everyone, but I read everything you write and wanted to thank you all. What we do here at RPGFan is absolutely important to me, and even though for the past few months and the next several I'm neck deep in work, I and the rest of the excellent folks on the show will do our best to keep it coming!

MOTY's afoot, after all ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on February 04, 2016, 12:35:45 PM
I think the music in Sylvalum and Noctilum is absolutely *perfect*.... but then your Oblivia and Primordia sound like your basic "jurassic world RPG" tunes and...meh.

Couldnt agree more.  Sylvalum and Noctilum are my two favorite places in the game, and I think half the reason is the music.  I can't NOT whistle the Noctilum theme when I am there, no matter how many times it loops.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on February 04, 2016, 12:58:49 PM
I think the music in Sylvalum and Noctilum is absolutely *perfect*.... but then your Oblivia and Primordia sound like your basic "jurassic world RPG" tunes and...meh.

Primorida's either tied with or just a smidge above Cauldros for my least favorite continent themes (though I don't dislike either), and I definitely get the "Welcome to Jurassic Park" vibe it has going. I can see Oblivia's day theme falling into the same meh category, but the night theme (https://youtu.be/FsmCb0bY2Wk) there is one of my favorites. I love the more laid back take on the really energetic and loud day theme; it really lets the refrain shine and I love that melody (which is just a little too overpowering in the day version).

But yeah, Noctilum and Sylvalum are definitely my favorites, particularly Noctilum day and Sylvalum night.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arklight on February 15, 2016, 10:30:48 AM
I TOTALLY FORGOT that MOTY was coming soon, so I should at least get a couple songs posted here if it's not too late (which admittedly it very well MIGHT be!).

Tales of Zestiria - New Power Awakens (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ia4if0y7ks) by Go Shiina

God Eater 2 - Beasts of the Wilderness (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS65eUnTX1w) also by Go Shiina (I don't think you guys cover this game, but EH)

Legend of Legacy - Fighting the Unknown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjZsCckMyDQ) by Masashi Hamauzu

Xenoblade Chronicles X - So nah, so fern (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BirpPXU09r4) and Wir fliegen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE0PpPREGkE) by Hiroyuki Sawano

Daigyakuten Saiban (The Great Ace Attorney) - Naruhodo Ryuunosuke ~ Objection! 2015 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgdMPyQFZFc) by Yasumasa Kitagawa

Undertale - Bergentrückung/ASGORE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfgmMPke7_k) and Waterfall (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v712NiVK5uY) by Toby Fox
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on February 15, 2016, 11:37:56 AM
Too late to be on the show, but we still appreciate you sharing! Based on your interests here, you're going to like what's coming in the next podcasts. :)

We didn't do a formal "listener's choice" this year; I kinda wanted to, but we had to reconfigure plans this time around, so we didn't get a chance. Hopefully next time! But it's always great to discuss and share music, so I encourage everyone to keep the spirit alive. :D
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on February 17, 2016, 11:32:39 AM
WOOT!  Music of the Year!

Thoughts on First Movement:

- Eve on Piano / Nights of Azure
Not even sure what this was, but it was awesome.  Very... classic.  Too short to really form a commentary on, though.

- Z5 Mira / Xenoblade Chronicles X
Oh man.... this song.  Xenoblade is all I have been playing for the last month, so this is very familiar for me.  And I love it.  I don't care what anyone says, Sawano did an awesome job on this OST.  Even though the NLA themes aren't this good, they're still creative.
This track uses the Noctilum theme very heavily in the beginning, so I admit that, while listening to this, I kinda just wanted it to be the regular Noctilum theme. Can't say I know where in the game this track is actually used, though.
Describing the Xenoblade OST as "exotic, but dangerous" is a great way of putting it.  The music really fits the game's various settings, beautifully.

- Death by Glamour / Undertale
Definitely digging this.  I have been consistently impressed with everything I have heard from the Undertale OST.  I look forward to the day when I actually play this game.  I like how the feel of the track matches its name.

- White Thunder / Final Fantasy Type-0 HD
Listening to this, one could hardly tell it's the same guy who did Crisis Core (if I'm not mistaken).  Completely different feels, imo.  This track feels a little overdone, when removed from its context, but I would imagine it sets a pretty epic atmosphere in-game.

- Hazy Moon / Tokyo Xanadu
Uh.... you said "Falcom Sound Team" and I was not expecting this at all.  This is.... I am astonished.  "Lush" is the word I would use, whereas I am used to FST stuff being more "wall of noise".  Maybe I just have the wrong concept of FST in my head.  But this is SERIOUSLY fantastic.  For some reason, i feel like Tokyo Xanadu has been featured on this podcast before.  I saw the name and, even though I have never seen anything about the game, it felt familiar and I thought "I'm pretty sure I have heard some good music from this game".  This is seriously my favorite piece on this episode of the podcast so far.
The mood of this piece is so chill I want to melt.  If I weren't at work I could just close my eyes and be carried away by it.... *sigh*

- Lady of Worlds / The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (Miracle of Sound)
Not a fan of the Witcher series, so I don't WANT to be impressed by this, but..... I am, curse you.  These vocals are seriously good.  And... is that a sitar I hear underneath them??  How did they make THAT work?  Seriously, this song is just insanely moving.  I think this would be awesome in an actual video game.
*Guys, the "twangy sound" has got to be a sitar!  It's gotta be!  No?

- Kirisaku Ongeki / Shining Resonance
So, this game looks cool, but this track isn't moving me.  Perhaps just because it followed right after that non-Witcher track?  Anyways, it's definitely a solid track and I enjoy the way it uses its synth, but it feels a bit standard.  It picks up really well at its crescendo, though.  But then it's over!  Darn!  Didn't really give me time to warm up to it.
*When re-listening underneath your commentary, I found myself whistling it.  It's actually pretty catchy after a few loops, which is important for RPG music, I feel.

- Veiled in Black / Final Fantasy XV
I really enjoyed how the piano here was like... the "vocalist" of this track.  Like if this were being performed live, the pianist would be front and center under the spotlight, even though the instrument isn't necessarily driving the piece.  Interesting that Shimomura would feature it the way she did while still making it kind of minimal.  Her use of strings was very "Hollywood" too, I thought.  Everything was structured and tuned to perfection here, almost excessively so.  But since it's Final Fantasy XV, I would understand why the music might feel "overly crafted".

- Battle of Tribulations / Bravely Second: End Layer
Hmm.... wasn't feeling the intro here, but it steadily improved as it went.  Overall, though, this piece felt unremarkable.  I'd be curious to hear this game's mood pieces, though.
* It was actually that "psychotic" feel that I didn't really care for.  Sorry. :(

- WILL / Oreshika: Tainted Bloodlines
Wow............ just, wow.  That instrumentation.... the richness... the slightly-husky vocals...  Everything about this one was a lovely experience.  This alone makes me want to try the game.

- "Ya gotta have blue hair."  HOLY CRAP WAS THAT A STRONG BAD REFERENCE!?  <3 <3 <3   0_____0   :D :D :D

- Reincarnation / Genei Ibunroku #FE SPECIAL VOCAL SELECTION
This makes me want to watch anime really badly.  There was some interesting contrast here, with a "cutesy" vocal type tackling a more "powerful" performance.  This was some pretty fun J-pop, for sure.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on February 17, 2016, 03:26:55 PM
In case anyone has not seen the Strong Bad in question, or (like me) just needs to see it again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KqF9G_DQls

Challenge and fighting and fighting and challenge toniiiight....
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on February 17, 2016, 05:01:38 PM
Arvis, I think you'll like my track samples from Shining Resonance on my favorites page in MOTY: Marcos' Favorites (http://www.rpgfan.com/features/Music_of_the_Year_2015/Editors_Favorites/Marcos.html). "Kirisaku Ongeki" perhaps is a track that works better in context. It's played, I believe, when you encounter a group of enemies/stronger enemas/or something of that nature. I watched about 2-3 hours of gamplay of this game on Youtube and finally found it. It really works well in its situation, so maybe you would get the full effect in game...if we ever get the game. I own the soundtrack and really like this soundtrack. I was a little nervous I wasn't because it was a very blind purchase (Usually I look for tracks, but there were only vocal tracks and the battle tracks on youtube). However, once I gave it a listen through, I fell in love with it. Definitely one of my favorites for 2015.

"Battle of Tribulations," or more so the whole soundtrack, might be a hit or miss for many people. It was a hit for me because I'm generally open to new ideas and themes for games. However, I did come in with some expectations that I wanted it to me, but it didn't hit those expectations. that's okay, because I enjoyed it for what it was and look forward to playing End Layer! :)

In regards to "Mira" from Xenoblade--GREAT MUSIC, RIGHT?! :)

I am a huge fan of Iwadare!!  The soundtrack to Eternal Blue was his best work IMO.  It expanded on the adventurous tone that was set in the Silver Star and cranked it up to 11!  Everytime I hear the main theme, I get chills.  And as I stated earlier, Field to Tomorrow is one of the best field themes.  I used to just sit and let it play over and over.  The entire Lunar series' music is amazing. 

It really is hard to not love most of his music as Grandia and the Ace Attorney series all have very fitting music for their settings.  Also, while I've never played the Langrisser series before, I might have to pull a Meyerink and purchase Re:Incarnation just to hear his music again!

I've yet to listen to Eternal Blue's full soundtrack, so I'm expecting high things from that praise your giving it. ;) Lol, I expect it's great, because I adore the Grandia series music, Radiata Stories, and Ace Attorney series music. Langrisser is on my listening docket, so I'll eventually get to that. I keep hearing great things, so it must be wonderful! :)

I TOTALLY FORGOT that MOTY was coming soon, so I should at least get a couple songs posted here if it's not too late (which admittedly it very well MIGHT be!).

Tales of Zestiria - New Power Awakens (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ia4if0y7ks) by Go Shiina

God Eater 2 - Beasts of the Wilderness (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS65eUnTX1w) also by Go Shiina (I don't think you guys cover this game, but EH)

Legend of Legacy - Fighting the Unknown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjZsCckMyDQ) by Masashi Hamauzu

Xenoblade Chronicles X - So nah, so fern (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BirpPXU09r4) and Wir fliegen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE0PpPREGkE) by Hiroyuki Sawano

Daigyakuten Saiban (The Great Ace Attorney) - Naruhodo Ryuunosuke ~ Objection! 2015 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgdMPyQFZFc) by Yasumasa Kitagawa

Undertale - Bergentrückung/ASGORE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfgmMPke7_k) and Waterfall (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v712NiVK5uY) by Toby Fox

Haha, Arklight, please check out my favorites page for MOTY 2016. I think you will be please with three of my choices. ;)

In case anyone has not seen the Strong Bad in question, or (like me) just needs to see it again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KqF9G_DQls

Challenge and fighting and fighting and challenge toniiiight....

Bless you, Tooker. It's always great to relive classics. ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on February 17, 2016, 07:39:05 PM
stronger enemas

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  >________>

In all seriousness, thanks for the response.  I need to remember to check out the MOTY feature and listen to everything there after I listen to Second Movement.

Also, I spent a good 5 seconds of the First Movement wondering how your Tellah avatar was supposed to be a hot dog.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on February 17, 2016, 07:59:01 PM
stronger enemas

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  >________>

In all seriousness, thanks for the response.  I need to remember to check out the MOTY feature and listen to everything there after I listen to Second Movement.

Also, I spent a good 5 seconds of the First Movement wondering how your Tellah avatar was supposed to be a hot dog.

Hey, enemas were very potent in Mel Brooks "Dracula: Dead and Loving It" ;)
(Hahaha. Spell check was very wrathful today, lol.)

Also, here's my skype avatar for reference:

(http://i.imgur.com/KXI6kSk.jpg)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Artimicia on February 21, 2016, 01:50:41 AM
Listened to my first podcast the other day... cool =-)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dalamud_Descends on February 22, 2016, 07:52:32 PM
Oh man!  Such a good MOTY group this year!  I am excited to add my input.  However, seeing as I am sitting in class at the moment, I have limited time.  Wild Armor, the Eternal Blue OST is greatness, but I've gushed on that enough.  Considering Undertale is a favorite, I will post this video of Ace Water doing a cover of Undertale theme.  Very awesome stuff!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRw26sEEywY

I can't wait to post my thoughts....though Arvis may have me beat!  Looking forward to it!

P.S. Love all of you hosts, but I missed Derek and Rob on this year's MOTY
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on March 07, 2016, 05:13:12 PM
Thoughts on Music of the Year Second Movement:

- That Resonating Sound is the Cry of the Nue / Kakuriyo no Mon Original Soundtrack
Hm.... a slightly tribal feel.  No idea what this game is, but the title of this track reminds me of the names of some FFVII tracks (even though the music is nothing like it).  Apparently this is from a visual novel?

- Battle ~ Adel / Imperial SaGa
This came out in 2015?  This is some super old school stuff.  That nostalgic, overdone synthy feel is nice, and even though I used to hate this sort of thing, the way this track tries and fails to be "rock" is so charming.  I miss that in VGM, sometimes.

- The Q Field / Qurare: Magic Library
This is all kinds of joy.  Love the poppy synth and the way the whole thing breaks down into a melodious mash-up of the most trancey VGM I've heard in a while.  Loved it.  Insert yesyesgood.gif here.
LOL, I looked up Qurare to see some of this "artwork" that was supposed to be so good.  It's definitely well-drawn, but if anyone is listening to this at work, wait until you get home to look this one up.

- Begin the Emergency Mission! / Schoolgirl Strikers
I notice the host called this "School Strikers".  Too embarrassed to say the full name? :P
Either way, this track is FREAKING AWESOME.  It reminded me of the always-happy and melody-driven music from a lot of Ultra-Japanese-Anime-style stuff, like Gust RPGs or even the Little Busters VN.  It seems wildly misnamed, though.  There's no sense of emergency here.  But that's just fine.  Peaceful and melodious tracks like this make me want to be a kid again.
Yes, "most laid back emergency mission ever" is a good way of describing it.
Oooh, "watercolor" is a great one-word-description of this track.  I'm not nearly creative enough to describe each of these tracks with one word.

- "Cave / Brandish: The Dark Revenant" was pretty good, in the interlude.  There was some VERY nice melody work here, albeit hidden under the over-produced bombast.

- .....more to come.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on March 08, 2016, 11:53:01 AM
Thoughts on Music of the Year Second Movement, continued:

- Silver Will, Golden Wings Game Opening Version / The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC
As far as vocal opening tracks go, this one was neither sub-par, nor par.  Rather, I could call it super-par.  I often feel like vocal openers are always better as instrumentals (see: White Knight Chronicles' "The Travelers" for an example of this), but as long as the melody is strong, like this one, they can work and work well.
Trails SC is one of those games that is basically "I wonder when I will get to this?" level on my backlog.  I know I will eventually, but it might be years from now.

- The Forgotten Capital/ Etrian Mystery Dungeon
This is so delightfully Etrian.  The music in this franchise is underrated and always pleasant to listen to.  The various change-ups in this track, too, give it a nice cinematic quality.

- Sherlock Holmes ~ The Great Detective of the Foggy Town / Daigyakuten Saiban: Naruhodou Ryuunosuke no Bouken
This is the Ace Attorney game set in the past, right?  If so, this music works brilliantly for that setting.  And yet, at the same time, it's still strangely evocative of the AA series as a whole, even though those games tend to sound ultra modern.  I have no idea how they achieved this, but I can hear it, for sure.

- Artemis / Lord of Magna
I'll be honest.... this was short, and I didn't get a good sense of it.  Heard some fun violin, but I can't really form an opinion on it.

- Rem Tokimiya / Final Fantasy Type-0 HD
This is the guy who did Crisis Core, yes?  I can tell right away.  That's a good thing, though.  Nice, strong feeling here: a sorrowful melody supported by relentless synth/guitar that breaks down nicely when it needs to.  I think this composer could potentially be the heir to the mainline FF soundtracks if Shimomura doesn't want the job.  Feel he could maybe branch out on the sound font a little though, because this seriously sounded like Crisis Core.  I guess this and CC both began life on the PSP, though, so that makes sense...

- Testing the Passionate Bonds / Tales of Zestiria
Man, I've heard something a lot like this in another RPG and I can't remember which one.  It's a solid, if uncreative, track.  Of course, right when I just typed that last sentence the track just crescendoed into a truly bizarre synth portion with this cool, poppy alien sound that jumped around all over the place, and then THAT broke down into an acoustic guitar jam session.  WTH??  I guess it was just the first... 20% of the track that came off as uncreative?  Because this actually turned into something exceptional.  Ok, what the heck, was that a synth KAZOO I just heard?  WHAT WAS THAT!?  Alright.... can somebody count for me the number of times the instrumentation completely changes in this track?  I'm starting to want to go back and erase my "uncreative" comment, because now I sound like an idiot.

- Alright, I should be able to get to the last two tracks in Second Movement this afternoon.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on March 08, 2016, 04:49:24 PM
- Bonus Track: The Essence of Aeris / MATERIA: Final Fantasy VII Remixed
Ok..... I admit, that was funny.  When the the one dude's vocals started, I was like "Lame" but then..... well, you-know-what happened.  Don't want to spoil it.  People will just have to listen.  Either way, I lost it.  Well played.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on March 08, 2016, 08:46:00 PM
That was the exact reaction I was hoping for with that last-minute addition. :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on March 09, 2016, 11:45:53 AM
That was the exact reaction I was hoping for with that last-minute addition. :)
I've been singing it this morning while getting ready for work. :P
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Perigryn on March 15, 2016, 11:09:24 PM
Hey! Need to dust off my forum account, and what better place to do it than here?

I finally got not-shitty-headphones new headphones so I can hear podcasts again! Hizzah!

I've gotten myself entirely caught up with the exception of MotY 2015, and I gotta' say, it's been fun.

I'm sad to see Derek go, but Mike and Caitlin's consistent presence is great. Plus, I never tire of your segues, Stephen.

There's been a lot of great music poured into my brain this past month as I shotgunned, like, 8 or so episodes, and it's all been pretty on point. Being introduced to some new stuff has been fantastic, and I'd like to go back over the show notes and, you know, remember.

Also, Stephen, word up on Palpota Harbour. You know where it's at, sir. I need to get that arrange album.

So... where're we at these days? I need to stay up to date henceforth so I can finally get a suggestion in on the podcast, or, you know, weasel my way onto it with my sultry thespian vocals!

As always, great work, and continue it! A joy to listen to.
 
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on March 16, 2016, 11:09:56 AM
So... where're we at these days? I need to stay up to date henceforth so I can finally get a suggestion in on the podcast, or, you know, weasel my way onto it with my sultry thespian vocals!


Hey you, if anyone's gonna weasel their way on to this podcast, it's me!  Step off!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on April 15, 2016, 05:05:12 PM
Thoughts on Music of the Year Final Movement:

- Night in the Brume / Heavensward: Final Fantasy XIV OST
Wow................... wow, this is seriously beautiful.  This was one of the the most evocative pieces of VG music I've heard in a while.  And it's in an MMO.  Crazy.  That mournful piano...

- Skyline / VA-11 HALL-A Prologue
This is totally cool and chill and I like it.  Unfortunately, it's a bit too "backgroundy".  I had to go back and play it twice, and the second time I listened to it, I had no memory of hearing it the first time.  Might be my fault.  It's a stellar chill-out track, for sure.

- Skies of a Strange Land / The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel
Trails music never fails to impress.  Sure, it might be "generic JRPG" to some, but that happens to be the sound I tend to enjoy most.  Different just to be different leaves us with stuff like the "NLA Day Theme" in Xenoblade X.  Gimme something that sounds like this, any day.

TO BE CONTINUED NEXT WEEK


- Battle / Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam


- Little Green Hero / Chrono Cinematica


- Imagination / Heavensward: Final Fantasy XIV
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on April 15, 2016, 07:34:33 PM
That's why I like the VA-11 HALL-A soundtrack(s), actually, because they work so well as mood-setters. :) I often just let it loop while I'm doing work - sometimes I've even had it going for the full eight hours.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on April 18, 2016, 03:46:20 PM
- Battle / Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam
This is the Mario-est thing I have listened to in a long long time.  In a good way.  Frenetic and colorful, with all the right instrumentation change-ups.  Did I hear correctly that Shimomura composed this?  It has her melody sensibilities, either way.  I enjoy the... uh... "clappy percussion", for lack of a more technical term.

- Little Green Hero / Chrono Cinematica
Why do some of the most beautiful/amazing/epic VGM rearrangements/remixes have the goofiest titles?  I can't even believe how rich this track is.  Definitly fits the "Cinematica" name, as I could so imagine this in a Chrono Trigger movie.
I see you have explained that that is the exact intent of this arrange album.  Well done, Chrono Cinematica people.  Comparing this to the music from How To Train Your Dragon is one of the biggest compliments you could ever give to any cinematic music.
Meyerink: GO LISTEN TO THE HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON SCORE.  Do it.

- Imagination / Heavensward: Final Fantasy XIV
You people and your XIV.  Making me even more jealous with your awesome music that I will never get to experience in context..... T_____T
I always like it when Final Fantasy uses a choir.  The Distant Worlds version of FFXI's "Memoro de la Stono ~ Distant Worlds" with the choir is one of my all-time favorite VGM tracks ever, and I never even played XI.

- Echoes in the Wind / Sakura Fantasy
The briefest of Google searches ever tells me that this game is only safe for work in audio form.  That being said, this is some amazing music.  Who the heck is composing such beautiful pieces for what basically amounts to an H-Game?  How does this even fit, thematically, with yuri make out sessions (which, as far as I can tell, is what the game is about)?

- Theme X / Xenoblade Chronicles X
Very excited for this one!  Haven't heard it yet, but it's nice to look forward to a track from a game I have actually played!  Listening now..... and of course it's something I have no memory of hearing.  It's frickin amazing, though.  I definitely recognize some of the melody, here, but I'm used to the vocals.  I think it might be Elma's Theme that I'm thinking of.  Could this be the Credit Roll?
Gosh dang this is triumphant as heck.  I'm close to tears listening to this crescendo.
**Ok, so it plays during the intro to New LA.  I look forward to hearing it again when I inevitably get to this game for a second playthrough.  As for the vocal themes, I think they're hit and miss.  But really... we can't really talk about which ones are hit and which ones are miss unless you guys list them all... ONE BY OOOONNNNEEE (one by one)!
**Oooh, nice use of Sylvalum theme in the background.

- Bergentrckung + ASGORE / Undertale
This sounds like it's from Undertale, which makes sense and is completely a good thing.  Not sure what else to say.  Solid, wonderful retro sounds.
**Totally agree about composers writing better melodies when they're restricted by the medium.  Look at Uematsu on the SNES and PS1.  It's his most famous and memorable work for a reason, even though his later stuff is also really fantastic.

- ??? / Host's Choice (Undertale Title Traack)
This completely does NOT sound like it's from Undertale.  It's amazing, though.  Seriously amazing.  Kinda reminds me of the Besaid Theme from X (or X-2).  Dat piano.  Like, seriously, listen to the Besaid Theme and this back to back.  I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that the composer of this track didn't have the Besaid Theme in mind when he composed this.

Mike, thank you for your editing!  Lian Kaitlinziri Whatever, thank you for being awesome!  Rhythm Encounter is one of my favorite ever podcasts, so please keep up the good work.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Perigryn on April 30, 2016, 02:23:47 AM
So... where're we at these days? I need to stay up to date henceforth so I can finally get a suggestion in on the podcast, or, you know, weasel my way onto it with my sultry thespian vocals!


Hey you, if anyone's gonna weasel their way on to this podcast, it's me!  Step off!

Haha! You tell me, Arvis!

On that note, kudos on all your song reviews! Really great way to keep up to date on the tracks listed in the podcast, it's appreciated!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on April 30, 2016, 03:43:01 PM
As always, thank you all for listening and commenting! We know it's been awhile since the last episode, but your patience will be rewarded very soon. Stay tuned!

Perigryn, I love that avatar! I have a feeling you'll enjoy the next episode...
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on May 01, 2016, 03:24:07 PM
Okay, here we go! It's been in the works for awhile, but we're back with a new episode, with a special guest!

http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2016/4724.html
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on May 02, 2016, 03:40:50 PM
Stoked!  Can't wait to get to this!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: missRPGirl on May 03, 2016, 08:41:21 AM
Okay, here we go! It's been in the works for awhile, but we're back with a new episode, with a special guest!

http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2016/4724.html

Listening to the new episode. I was a little surprised to know that Caitlin hasn't played Chrono Trigger. Not a bad thing, it was just surprising to her talk so passionately about the song but then not play the game, but its all good. 

Anyway nice show guys. :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on May 03, 2016, 11:51:44 AM
Haven't listened yet but just wanted to chime in that I am also in the camp that prefers Trigger's music to its gameplay.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on May 03, 2016, 02:00:48 PM
Listening to the new episode. I was a little surprised to know that Caitlin hasn't played Chrono Trigger. Not a bad thing, it was just surprising to her talk so passionately about the song but then not play the game, but its all good. 

Anyway nice show guys. :)

Thank you!

And yeah, I'm always nervous about admitting I haven't played Chrono Trigger, because it's one of those classic RPGs everyone has played and do I lose my credibility as a gamer or lover of RPGs because I haven't played it? I keep telling myself I should play it, but it's really hard for me to get motivated to play older games like that. I do like the music from Chrono Trigger though; some of it is present in Chrono Cross and then there are remixes I would listen to back in high school, so the music is special to me even if I haven't played the game itself.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: missRPGirl on May 03, 2016, 02:14:09 PM
Listening to the new episode. I was a little surprised to know that Caitlin hasn't played Chrono Trigger. Not a bad thing, it was just surprising to her talk so passionately about the song but then not play the game, but its all good. 

Anyway nice show guys. :)

Thank you!

And yeah, I'm always nervous about admitting I haven't played Chrono Trigger, because it's one of those classic RPGs everyone has played and do I lose my credibility as a gamer or lover of RPGs because I haven't played it? I keep telling myself I should play it, but it's really hard for me to get motivated to play older games like that. I do like the music from Chrono Trigger though; some of it is present in Chrono Cross and then there are remixes I would listen to back in high school, so the music is special to me even if I haven't played the game itself.

Nah don't feel bad about not playing the game. I buy more games than I can play so I am sure there is some classic RPG game out there that everyone has played and I haven't. I just need one of those stay at home jobs that allows me to enough time to play games at home lol.

Also the person on the podcast who suggested to play Chrono Trigger on the DS, thank you. If I ever replay it I'll make sure to get it on there.

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arklight on May 03, 2016, 03:01:26 PM
If the fact that I have never finished a single Final Fantasy game doesn't detract from my credibility as a fan of RPGs, I don't think you have anything to worry about.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: missRPGirl on May 03, 2016, 04:00:18 PM
If the fact that I have never finished a single Final Fantasy game doesn't detract from my credibility as a fan of RPGs, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Any of them? Well I guess the next question I would ask is how many have you tried?
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on May 03, 2016, 04:46:32 PM
If the fact that I have never finished a single Final Fantasy game doesn't detract from my credibility as a fan of RPGs, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

This totally detracts from your credibility.  You have something to worry about, Lian.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on May 03, 2016, 05:05:28 PM
Also the person on the podcast who suggested to play Chrono Trigger on the DS, thank you. If I ever replay it I'll make sure to get it on there.

The SNES version is fine too, of course. I don't recall if the Virtual Console release has much in the way of loading, but avoid the PSone release (even on PSN)! It had some neat extras like anime cutscenes - which I THINK are in the DS one - including one that tied in to Chrono Cross. But the load times when simply opening the menu are simply awful. The DS one is quick, and has even more cool extras, like a music player, a log cataloguing which endings you've seen, and a bonus boss battle that ties into CC. There's also an additional bonus zone, noteworthy for offering cool gear, and including music that was cut from the original game, but the gameplay here is MMO-esque fetch quests. Lame, but again, cool music.

(I may know more than is healthy about this game, I think)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on May 03, 2016, 05:22:13 PM
Nah don't feel bad about not playing the game. I buy more games than I can play so I am sure there is some classic RPG game out there that everyone has played and I haven't. I just need one of those stay at home jobs that allows me to enough time to play games at home lol.

If the fact that I have never finished a single Final Fantasy game doesn't detract from my credibility as a fan of RPGs, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Awww, thanks! =^__^=

If the fact that I have never finished a single Final Fantasy game doesn't detract from my credibility as a fan of RPGs, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

This totally detracts from your credibility.  You have something to worry about, Lian.

.... ;__;
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on May 03, 2016, 05:59:36 PM
Nah don't feel bad about not playing the game. I buy more games than I can play so I am sure there is some classic RPG game out there that everyone has played and I haven't. I just need one of those stay at home jobs that allows me to enough time to play games at home lol.

If the fact that I have never finished a single Final Fantasy game doesn't detract from my credibility as a fan of RPGs, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Awww, thanks! =^__^=

If the fact that I have never finished a single Final Fantasy game doesn't detract from my credibility as a fan of RPGs, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

This totally detracts from your credibility.  You have something to worry about, Lian.

.... ;__;

Adorable.  I lol'd.

Serious talk: I've only beaten Trigger once, so...
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: missRPGirl on May 03, 2016, 11:03:10 PM
Also the person on the podcast who suggested to play Chrono Trigger on the DS, thank you. If I ever replay it I'll make sure to get it on there.

The SNES version is fine too, of course. I don't recall if the Virtual Console release has much in the way of loading, but avoid the PSone release (even on PSN)! It had some neat extras like anime cutscenes - which I THINK are in the DS one - including one that tied in to Chrono Cross. But the load times when simply opening the menu are simply awful.
Ha I played the PSone version, but I played it on the PS2, so I don't know if it loads faster on there compared to the PSone console. At the time I think I was still used to long loading screens so I didn't notice. Maybe if I went back to it I would though.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arklight on May 04, 2016, 11:33:50 AM
If the fact that I have never finished a single Final Fantasy game doesn't detract from my credibility as a fan of RPGs, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Any of them? Well I guess the next question I would ask is how many have you tried?

I've played through a vast majority of 4 on the DS, but just sorta...dropped off. Something else probably captured my interest. I've also played through the first disc of 8, but that didn't really end up jiving with me so I dropped that, and I ALMOST got to Gran Pulse in XIII but my interest mostly died at some point, and I think I sold the game. I own FFX but have yet to try it, and I am still trying to get a group of friends and terrible peripherals together to play through Crystal Chronicles because trying to play through that alone is not a fantastic experience. I REALLY want to play VI and IX though! VII too, I suppose, although I have enough games to play in the meantime that I might just wait on the remake. Also probably gonna get XV! Also I beat Dissidia 012 but that absolutely does not count.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on May 04, 2016, 05:48:49 PM
Thoughts on Rhythm Encounter 26: Bends of Time

- Considering Chrono Cross has my all time favorite OST in all of video games (or maybe anything) I could not be more excited for this episode!  Thanks in advance for all of your hard work on this, guys!

Distant Scenery / Read Only Memories
Awwwwwwww yyyyeeeeeeaaaahhhh....... so soulful........ like the midnight sky inside a cup of black coffee.........
In all seriousness, I think this just gave my ears a 3-minute orgasm.  Listening to this FELT good.  Like, I'm chuckling while typing this because of how good my brain feels right now.  What is this feeling??  ......ok, I just shut my eyes for a moment and let it wash over me.  I feel a little more normal now.  What was that?  What is Read Only Memories?  What did I just experience??
*Uh oh... you guys are talking about it now... and it's playing in the brackground... here come the goosebumps again...
Alright, after the agony of having to pause the podcast so I could look up Read Only Memories, it is now on my Steam Wishlist.  Hopefully it will not die there like many an other good game.

Camp Approach / Firewatch
There's probably no more appropriate game title for this piece than "Firewatch".  Because that's totally the feeling it evokes; like I'm huddled around a fire in silence.  Even some of the instrumentation evokes images of chirping insects, and the mournful melody gives me a sense of fatigue and journey.  Really nicely done piece.

Dance With The Balamb Fish / SUCCESSOR: Final Fantasy VIII Remixed
This was utter utter nonsense that offended all of my higher brain functions.  My lower brain functions made me grin at it, though.  But that's it.  Just a grin.  Don't hold it against me.  Also... why "fish", precisely?  Is that a reference I don't understand.
*LOL, the "Aeris Dies" track you referenced got me really laughing, for sure.  Definitely prefer that one to this.

Chrono Trigger, Allegro Con Brio / Chronicles of Time
WHOOOOAAAAA.... I was about to comment on how much I like the use of the Trigger main theme, but then it turned into the CROSS main theme and then it kinda blended them both together and OMG JVFAIGFLSBFBLSKF<ILA:HF
........
*cough*
Ok, I think I'm good.  I didn't think those two themes could blend that well, but I was wrong.  Man.  Really, though, is there anything better than the main melody of "Scars of Time" being ripped out on a violin?  It could raise the dead, I swear.
*As far as how iconic it is, there's a VGM radio station called Rainwave.cc that allows users to vote and rate all the songs it plays.  To this day (afaik) "Scars of Time" continues to have the highest average rating out of every single song they play.  And Rainwave has almost everything you could think of.

Against the Wind / Chrono Cinematica
This was seriously cool.  All the cinematic touches (like an evil laugh, even!) just sent this track to the next level.  I almost want to say that I feel PRIVILEGED to be hearing these familiar melodies done so well, and it really does make my heart ache for a bonafide Chrono movie.  With music like this, how could it ever be bad?

Star-Stealing Girl / Chrono Cross
So....... real talk:  I was excited to hear this one, but when it finally came on, I just ended up shutting my eyes and crying, alone in my office.  I simply cannot separate the turbulent emotions of my teenage years from the music of this game.  I played so many games back then, but it's always THIS soundtrack that always gets the emotions going.  This track started and all I could feel was the pain of Kid's loss as the orphanage burned to the ground in the distance...
*Ok, good, I'm not the only one who cries over this song...  Seriously, how did Mitsuda write so much dang emotion into music!??!?!  HOW?!

- More to come tomorrow.  SOOOOO excited for Scars of Time!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: missRPGirl on May 05, 2016, 11:30:13 AM
So I have a question about the show. Why is the show so long? I guess I don't have a problem with length so much as I wonder if it were shorter (45-60 minutes) would be able to produce episodes consistently on a monthly basis. I did notice in your last podcast Blends of Time that the first 25 minutes were spent playing and discussing soundtracks to games that weren't Chrono related. 25 minutes is long when your should is almost 2 hours long. Again this is nothing major, I still like the show and will continue to listen to the podcast. I'm just wondering what would happen if you cut the time down.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on May 05, 2016, 11:38:10 AM
One of my favorite music shows prior to Rhythm Encounter did the same thing at some point - switched to really long shows less often rather than shorter ones more often.  There are a few benefits to that method - you don't have to get your team together as often (this is a huge challenge for us, but will likely be less of one with Stephen departing, so we won't be coordinating between US and Japan), you don't burn through topics as quickly... Probably others, but those are the main ones.

The advice the other podcast gave was, I thought, pretty solid - remember that you don't have to listen to it all at once. :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on May 05, 2016, 12:09:38 PM
More Thoughts on Rhythm Encounter 26: Bends of Time

- I played "Distant Scenery" from Read Only Memories for my wife last night and she said "You should play this every night at bedtime."  It's even better when you play it in tandem with Rainymood.

CHRONO CROSS ~The Scars of Time~ / Chrono Cross
What was the start of all this?
When did the cogs of fate begin to turn?
Perhaps it is impossible to grasp that answer now
From deep within the flow of time
(But for a certainty, back then
We loved so many, yet hated so much)
We hurt others, and were hurt ourselves
And yet still we ran like the wind
Whilst our laughter echoed
Under cerulean skies

Goosebumps...... tears..... feelz.....  And yes, I typed up everything but the part in parentheses from memory.  This song is the reason I bought and played this game.  Seriously.  Never before and probably never since have I purchased a video game based on one piece of music.  My dad and I had just purchased Vagrant Story, I believe, and it came with a Squaresoft "hype disc" with demos and previews for various other Square release, which was at the height of Square's Golden Age, so everything was amazing.  But on that disc was the opening cinema of Chrono Cross, which of course famously features this song.  The video showed NO GAMEPLAY, but my dad and I just sat and watched and listened and when it was over we looked at each other and I said "We have to get this game" and he said "Definitely".  And the rest is history.
I can think of no better way to describe the sheer life-transcending brilliance of this song... but I will try.  There are few pieces of music from any artist, genre, medium, or time period that can rival the melody, instrumentation, and structure of Scars of Time.  It is a superlative masterwork of creative genius whose very existence makes life better than it otherwise would be.  It is a flash of brilliance from heaven and bordering on proof of God.  Listening to this song with your eyes closed and meditating on its beauty could reform criminals and reality tv stars.  It can fix marriages and heal the sick.  This song.... could possibly be the single greatest two and a half minutes of music ever created.

But that just, like, my opinion, man.

*Caitlin, you described it perfectly.  It's perfection.  The way all of its elements combine is...... magic.  Lightning in a bottle.

Eons I / Chronicles of Time
Yeeeessssss!  Love love love this theme!!  Few things put a smile on my face like this one.  It's just so fun and cool!  And this remix is very "sci-fi cool"!  Almost like a hi-fi chiptune sort of feel.  I will never in my life get tired of "Corridors of Time" remixes.  Especially Smooth McGroove's version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtKCt8Afk9s).  Something about that one just always makes me feel happy.  I like that Eons I is not just a remix of that, but blends many themes from Trigger.  Keeps it fresh.
*Mmm, yes, the term "demake" works here.  And it definitely gives the track a cool flavor that gets the blood pumping.  Man... I frickin' love this podcast.

Schala's Theme / To Far Away Times: Chrono Trigger & Chrono Cross Arrange
That is quite a voice.  Wow.  **Yes, "pure sounding" is another great descriptor.  You guys are good I finding words to describe the feel of various bits of music.
Dang, this track does that thing I love where they get all these rich orchestral instruments to build the sound, and then they let a single acoustic guitar drive the melody between vocal sections.  That never ever sounds bad.  And why does it always feel like Japanese orchestrated vocal tracks do vocal layering so much better than everyone else?

G.A.T.O. Must Be Respected / Chronicles of Time
Ha!  I had no idea an acoustic guitar version of this could work so well!  The layering on this track, man... the layering...

Epich (Part 3) / Chronicles of Time
Hm... this doesn't even sound like something from the Chrono series.  Which I guess they were going for.  But after all the amazing music so far this episode, this one is just a bit too noisy for me to really appreciate.  In general, though, I'm not a huge fan of the whole "metal" arrangement for game music, in general.

RADICAL DREAMERS ~Le Trsor Interdit~ / Chrono Cross
It is appropriate that the game with the all-time greatest opening theme would also have the all-time greatest end credits theme.  This song is buried so deeply into my heart, I even used the English translation of its lyrics for a spoken word project for one of my acting classes.  It's always so disappointing when friends who appreciate good guitar can get past the Japanese vocals.  Alas.
I'd have to say, if there was a single piece of music that ever made me want to learn an instrument, it's this one.  It always blows me away how simple guitar strings can make such beautiful sounds when put in the right hands.  I've listened to this so many times, it's basically the only song with Japanese vocals that I can sing along with.  And to this day it grabs my heart the same as it ever did.  That mournful sound of loss..... so powerful....

??? / Guest's Choice (Ayla's Theme)
What a very hipster pick. :)
But a good one.  Doesn't get a lot of play, but definitely has that signature "Trigger" feel that makes you want to give it the attention it deserves.  Like a lot of Trigger themes, though, the loop is just too darn short.

Man, you guys sure do put out a quality podcast.  This is maybe my favorite episode so far.  So glad you finally got to do the Chrono episode you've been wanting to do.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ScottC on May 05, 2016, 07:42:58 PM
And yeah, I'm always nervous about admitting I haven't played Chrono Trigger, because it's one of those classic RPGs everyone has played and do I lose my credibility as a gamer or lover of RPGs because I haven't played it? I keep telling myself I should play it, but it's really hard for me to get motivated to play older games like that. I do like the music from Chrono Trigger though; some of it is present in Chrono Cross and then there are remixes I would listen to back in high school, so the music is special to me even if I haven't played the game itself.

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You know what you must do Caitlin.  Andrew recently played FF7 and now you must play this.  And when you do you need to stream it or chronicle it.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on May 05, 2016, 08:43:57 PM
Arvis, as always, thank you for your extensive commentary! I'm always happy to see you get so invested in each show, and I can tell this topic resonated with you as much as it did us. :D If you haven't been sold yet, I again strongly urge you to pick up Chronicles of Time, as it's just a stellar compilation of artists and musical styles. It was hard to only pick certain things from it, because believe me when I say there's an arrangement of Singing Mountain on there that just gives me chills.

So I have a question about the show. Why is the show so long? I guess I don't have a problem with length so much as I wonder if it were shorter (45-60 minutes) would be able to produce episodes consistently on a monthly basis. I did notice in your last podcast Blends of Time that the first 25 minutes were spent playing and discussing soundtracks to games that weren't Chrono related. 25 minutes is long when your should is almost 2 hours long. Again this is nothing major, I still like the show and will continue to listen to the podcast. I'm just wondering what would happen if you cut the time down.

I'm glad you asked, actually! We've debated the show's length for a long time, usually ending on leaving it mostly alone, since we rarely seem to get feedback on the shows being too long. I've personally wanted us to try shorter formats as well, which is kind of what we did here: Typically we had 3 people choosing 4 songs each, so cutting it to 3/3 cut an entire block of show. It's also worth noting that a good chunk of time is for the music - in this episode, I believe each "dialogue" segment was about 15 minutes. And that covers three people discussing 3 songs and introducing three more, so each segment itself isn't too long. I mean, we COULD trim the music, and only play partial songs. It would cut down on overall length, but I don't think anyone wants that.

As for the "recent tracks," we know we're a little inconsistent with them. Originally, Rhythm Encounter came about as a complement to the Music section on the site, so as we posted new album reviews, we would highlight tracks from recent reviews and encourage listeners to check out said reviews. These days, we don't always have 3 reviews to highlight, which is why we tend to just highlight either recent reviews on RPGFan OR recently-released albums. Maybe it would make more sense to have interstitial episodes that focus on recent stuff and completely separate it from the themed ones? I'm not sure. This is the first time I've seen this brought up since I've been part of the show, so I'd be interested in hearing others' thoughts on the length, as well.

I know as a podcast listener, I usually prefer shorter shows, but that's because I would try listening to podcasts that would post an hour show five times a week, or a 2-3 hour podcast weekly - I just could never keep up. In theory, our show is monthly, so if people are waiting that long for a show, we want to offer substance. Plus, the longer it takes you to listen, the closer that next episode will seem. ;)

I'm not dismissing you though. Like I said, we talk about length a lot, because longer episodes mean we need to devote more time to record, to talk, to try not to let you guys hear us when we're tired after 3 hours on Skype, and of course, more time in editing. Production-wise, shorter would be beneficial. So we'll likely continue to assess all of this. Again though, we'd love to hear more feedback as well!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Drtsoni on May 06, 2016, 08:00:22 AM
Just some quick tidbits. The first piece of video game music that won a Grammy Award is "Baba Yetu" by Christopher Tin (53rd - Best Instrumental Arrangement Accompanying Vocalist(s)). His album "Calling All Dawns", which opens with "Baba Yetu" also won Best Classical Crossover Album that year, but it would be difficult to call this a video game music album, since only "Baba Yetu" is featured in a game. The Journey OST was nominated for Best Score Soundtrack for Visual Media at the 55th Grammy Award, but lost to The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

So yes, a video game music track has won the Grammy, but no VGM soundtracks has.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on May 06, 2016, 10:40:19 AM
Arvis, as always, thank you for your extensive commentary! I'm always happy to see you get so invested in each show, and I can tell this topic resonated with you as much as it did us. :D If you haven't been sold yet, I again strongly urge you to pick up Chronicles of Time, as it's just a stellar compilation of artists and musical styles. It was hard to only pick certain things from it, because believe me when I say there's an arrangement of Singing Mountain on there that just gives me chills.
Yes, Retro Encounter is my favorite podcast!  I get so excited for every episode!
As for Chronicles of Time, it sounds amazing!  .......but:
1. Looks like that album snubs Cross, which I can't abide.
2. I'm a loser who uses Amazon for mp3s and it looks like that album isn't available on there.

I mean, we COULD trim the music, and only play partial songs. It would cut down on overall length, but I don't think anyone wants that.
You are correct: NOBODY WANTS THAT

The first piece of video game music that won a Grammy Award is "Baba Yetu" by Christopher Tin

That song is abso-frickin'-lutely incredible.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Artimicia on May 09, 2016, 01:50:29 AM
Whoa someone here hasn't played CTrigger?

I admit I'm kind of surprised by that... not a bad thing though just always thought of it as one of the definitive JRPGs.. at least in the spheres of public opinion and such.

I'll just leave this here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpw6Lt6USrs

(Frog's Theme =-P)

Ah psh I should link the original as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp7PYi5b8jg

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: missRPGirl on May 10, 2016, 10:47:40 AM
Arvis, as always, thank you for your extensive commentary! I'm always happy to see you get so invested in each show, and I can tell this topic resonated with you as much as it did us. :D If you haven't been sold yet, I again strongly urge you to pick up Chronicles of Time, as it's just a stellar compilation of artists and musical styles. It was hard to only pick certain things from it, because believe me when I say there's an arrangement of Singing Mountain on there that just gives me chills.

So I have a question about the show. Why is the show so long? I guess I don't have a problem with length so much as I wonder if it were shorter (45-60 minutes) would be able to produce episodes consistently on a monthly basis. I did notice in your last podcast Blends of Time that the first 25 minutes were spent playing and discussing soundtracks to games that weren't Chrono related. 25 minutes is long when your should is almost 2 hours long. Again this is nothing major, I still like the show and will continue to listen to the podcast. I'm just wondering what would happen if you cut the time down.

I'm not dismissing you though. Like I said, we talk about length a lot, because longer episodes mean we need to devote more time to record, to talk, to try not to let you guys hear us when we're tired after 3 hours on Skype, and of course, more time in editing. Production-wise, shorter would be beneficial. So we'll likely continue to assess all of this. Again though, we'd love to hear more feedback as well!

I was wondering how long were you guys talking to each other. 3 hours on Skype. I can barely hold a 1 hour conversation with my boyfriend lol.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on May 10, 2016, 12:00:33 PM
I was wondering how long were you guys talking to each other. 3 hours on Skype. I can barely hold a 1 hour conversation with my boyfriend lol.

Three hours is nothing. We were on for over five hours once, mostly because we took huge breaks between each segment. It was a ton of fun, but man were we tired at the end. Thing is, we don't really have a set length in mind when we're recording. We say what we want to say about the music, we play off each other, and sometimes we get sucked into tangents. Things should get a little bit shorter now that we're going from four picks per person to three, though.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on May 10, 2016, 12:03:44 PM
And we're at least trying to cut down on our tangents, especially off-air, but dammit, everyone is so much fun, it's hard to do.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: missRPGirl on May 10, 2016, 01:20:21 PM
I was wondering how long were you guys talking to each other. 3 hours on Skype. I can barely hold a 1 hour conversation with my boyfriend lol.

Three hours is nothing. We were on for over five hours once, mostly because we took huge breaks between each segment. It was a ton of fun, but man were we tired at the end. Thing is, we don't really have a set length in mind when we're recording. We say what we want to say about the music, we play off each other, and sometimes we get sucked into tangents. Things should get a little bit shorter now that we're going from four picks per person to three, though.

I'm glad you guys have fun talking about the music. Everyone who is involved on the show definitely shows their passion, its great. Also have you guys ever thought about (or maybe you have done this) picking your favourite top 3-4 songs from only one album? Its probably more interesting to talk about different songs on different albums, but its just a thought. 
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on May 10, 2016, 02:43:14 PM
Not a bad idea! We usually try and keep it diverse, not only because it's interesting, and hopefully introduces people to new music... But also because we had a pair of early episodes that were 100% Phantasy Star, and some people didn't like how narrow that focus was, haha. That's one of the reasons we held off on a Chrono episode for so long, but all the new albums in 2015 convinced us to give in.

Still though, we don't know what the wider consensus is amongst listeners. Maybe there's more people than we think that would like to hear a show based on one album, or one game, but they're not as vocal?

The trick, of course, is deciding WHICH album if we were to try this. :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: missRPGirl on May 10, 2016, 03:24:49 PM
Not a bad idea! We usually try and keep it diverse, not only because it's interesting, and hopefully introduces people to new music... But also because we had a pair of early episodes that were 100% Phantasy Star, and some people didn't like how narrow that focus was, haha. That's one of the reasons we held off on a Chrono episode for so long, but all the new albums in 2015 convinced us to give in.

Still though, we don't know what the wider consensus is amongst listeners. Maybe there's more people than we think that would like to hear a show based on one album, or one game, but they're not as vocal?

The trick, of course, is deciding WHICH album if we were to try this. :)
Yeah that's what I was thinking, a show based on one album, game, series or composer.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on May 10, 2016, 03:32:33 PM
Clearly, the answer is Okami. To make up for all the not Okami we've had on the show. Because I'm pulling rank and saying we can play music from Okami.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on May 10, 2016, 04:09:15 PM
Okami is just as much of an RPG as Zelda (meaning, not at all) so I don't see why not.  Great music, too.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on May 10, 2016, 05:04:16 PM
I will forever maintain that Zelda and Okami are at least "close" to action RPGs, so yes. As I recall, we had a track from the Okami Jazz Album on once so at this point I think it's fair game. :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on May 10, 2016, 06:57:06 PM
The precedent has been set!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on May 10, 2016, 09:08:10 PM
The precedent has been set!

Hooray! :)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Taelus on May 11, 2016, 05:04:39 AM
I just can't wait until my goodbye episode in which I play Shimomura for six hours and intone gravely at everyone. TANGENTS HOOOO
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on May 11, 2016, 03:34:19 PM
Every time Stephen says Shimomura you take a shot. ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on May 11, 2016, 03:51:47 PM
Watch out for alcohol poisoning!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on May 11, 2016, 03:55:56 PM
Watch out for alcohol poisoning!

(http://i.imgur.com/aj5PzKV.png)

(but seriouslly, don't take a shot because you'll be out before the first hour.) ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on May 12, 2016, 12:25:57 PM
Every time Stephen says Shimomura you take a shot. ;)

Probably the fastest way to get drunk known to man
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dalamud_Descends on May 28, 2016, 10:55:09 AM
Instead of alcohol shots, I'll take shots of Dr. Pepper everytime Stephen says "Shimomura"!  I'll get a little fatter, but I'll enjoy the podcast to its fullest without the negative effects of inebriation!

Ideas for Topics:
- Tavern themes
- Town themes
- Iwadare Extravaganza!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dice on May 31, 2016, 09:57:14 PM
Instead of alcohol shots, I'll take shots of Dr. Pepper everytime Stephen says "Shimomura"!  I'll get a little fatter, but I'll enjoy the podcast to its fullest without the negative effects of inebriation!

Ideas for Topics:
- Tavern themes


I think a podcast of this would constitute like almost all RPG music dedicated to taverns (I can only think of so many that exist).

That said, I like this idea, and I think we should take a shot each time we do a 'round' of songs, feels super appropriate in this case ("Stephen" and "Shimomura" might result in an early end to that podcast because the team got too drunk).  What say you podcast team? :P
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on June 01, 2016, 09:25:30 AM
I could have SWORN Tavern Themes was a ... uh ... theme that's already been used in Rhythm Encounter.

Or maybe someone played a Tavern theme, talked about how they love Tavern themes, and it was bandied about "on-air" that there should be a episode based on that theme.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dalamud_Descends on June 01, 2016, 11:33:13 AM
They played a tavern theme from the Witcher 2 in the Inn/Rest themed episode a while back, but that was it, I believe.  Another theme that you could do would be large scale battle/war themes.  These could be from SRPG games or RPGs with large scale battles in them (eg. Suikoden series).  Also, please find a way to get some Lunar music somewhere in an episode.  Here's some suggestions:

Lunar Silver Star Story:
City of Magic
Fairy Rain
Solitary Wolf
Fighting Through the Darkness (for sheer 90's cheese factor)

Lunar Eternal Blue:
Field to Tomorrow
Footsteps to the Decisive Battle
White Mask Funk

Looking forward to the next episode!  Also, for a great non-RPG soundtrack, check out DustForce!  Awesome OST!

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on June 01, 2016, 09:29:27 PM
That's right! We did an "Inn" episode, but a "Tavern" specific one is actually on our list of future plans, as well. :)

We'll definitely be giving battle themes a break after our battle trilogy, however, I like the idea of specifically using songs from particularly large scale battles. It's an interesting twist.

And yes, somewhere, we need to get more Lunar on the show. We'll look into it!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Artimicia on August 28, 2016, 09:41:59 AM
I know this wasn't part of the podcast per se, but I just wanted to say that interview with Yuzo Koshiro that RPGfan did was pretty awesome IMO.... he did some of the OSTs for games I liked growing up so that was cool to see... totally random I know... I think it was like a 1 year and a half ago or something but it's one thing that brought me to this site.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on September 20, 2016, 05:08:40 PM
Sweet!  New episode of Rhythm Encounter!  Very excited about this. :)
I was going to repeat myself about how much I enjoy Dice's presence in this podcast, but then thought better of it.  And then I heard that utterly hilarious cold open from Dice and now I just have to mention it.  I almost embarrassed myself with a massive guffaw in the office.  So... nice job, Dice.


Thoughts on Rhythm Encounter 27 - "Foliage Ocean in St. Louis"

- Forest of Elrit / Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
Not an Odin Sphere fan, but this is kinda everything I want from a "sun-dappled forest" theme.  I mean... I think the forest in question is probably sun-dappled.  I mean, the music sounds sun-dappled, so....  Anyways, I was going to ramble about this being different-but-similar for Hitoshi Sakimoto, but it turns out this was actually composed by Mitsuhiro Kaneda (Grand Kingdom).  The loop's kinda short, but the whole flavor of everything about this works.

- Into the Woods / I Am Setsuna
There's something about solo piano that makes music emotional.  I've raved about solo piano many times on my Rhythm Encounter analyses, but I'll rave again.  This makes me want to play I Am Setsuna, despite all the blas reviews.  It also makes me want to watch Into The Woods and sing along, but... that has nothing to do with the music itself.
**I was under the impression that the entirety of the Setsuna OST was solo piano? Whoops, you guys addressed this.
**Also, props to Dice for working the word "flurry" into her description, that was well done.

- "Antipyretic - arrange -" from FINAL FANTASY TACTICS / DISSIDIA FINAL FANTASY -Arcade-
Listening to this almost doesn't feel real.  Tactics is by far my favorite game of all time and I have put about 2000 hours of my life into it.  So... I'm obviously super familiar with the music.  Hearing it professionally rearranged for another game is pretty darn cool.  I love that the main melodic hook feels almost IDENTICAL to the original, while still having improved fidelity.  And it somehow even feels more epic with the revised instrumental support.  The Tactics soundtrack has a very distinct flavor, and I appreciate that this arrangement of Antipyretic doesn't lose much of that flavor at all.
Wouldn't call it "foresty" really, but that could just be me.  Hard to be objective.
**Ramza is GORGEOUS in Dissidia.  I have never been so attracted to a male video game character, ever.  He is flat out hot.  Man, I need to get out more or something.


To be continued, of course.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on September 20, 2016, 10:34:22 PM
Wouldn't call it "foresty" really, but that could just be me.  Hard to be objective.

It wasn't meant to be. The first three tracks are recent picks, and those don't have to follow the theme.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on September 21, 2016, 12:07:03 PM
Wouldn't call it "foresty" really, but that could just be me.  Hard to be objective.

It wasn't meant to be. The first three tracks are recent picks, and those don't have to follow the theme.

HA!  You're right, of course, and I forgot that because of the first two "recent" tracks.  That makes me dig having Antipyretic there all the more, since it's plopped right in the middle of all these forest themes.

Idea: should I take a shot every time someone says "foresty" in this episode?  I have a good feeling about that one.


Thoughts on Rhythm Encounter 27, continued

- Extensive Forest Green / Ys SEVEN
As someone who bagged on Jawsh for calling Ys music "far superior" to Zelda's, this is easily up there with a lot of Zelda tracks.  Still has that trademark "Ys energy", but is much more melodic, which I appreciate.  Love the upbeat percussion that drives it, too.  That's really what makes it feel special.  Unfortunately, too short.
**Yes, "energy and movement" are good words for this one.  Nice, Lian.

- Totems of the Grizzlemaw / World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King
This doesn't really match its title at all.  The name evokes gnarled, leafless branches under a red sky.  But the music itself is like... the frickin' forests of Lothlorien or something.  I did like the changeup to the fiddle-driven, Old Celtic feel when it hit (reminded me of Braid), although it sort of clashed with the ethereal feeling established at the start (which was most welcome when it returned).  An interesting and beautiful track, and i'm glad it made it in to the podcast at the last minute.  I especially enjoy the river sounds in the background, which I find quite calming.
**So that "fiddle" I heard was actually this "nyckleharpa" or whatever?  I have never heard of that thing.

- Rain in the Dried Up Valley / Atelier Ayesha
It was a bit jarring to jump into these heavily synthesized instruments after the last track, but after the initial impact it began to feel familiar.  I do enjoy the Gust synth soundtracks, and Atelier is always pretty good when it comes to having an acceptable style to their soundtracks.  This one feels a bit jumbled, but pleasant.  I feel like there's a particular brand of "happy" that Japanese composers seem to have nailed down, and you can hear it here.  It's difficult to describe, but I think you know what I mean.

- Moogle Woods / Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers
I think one complaint that nobody with ears has ever made against this game is that it's soundtrack isn't good.  Some of my all time favorite VGM tracks are from CC franchise, and this beautiful mood piece here is a good example of why.  I love music that makes me feel like I'm actually in a fantasy world, and this piece nails that feeling so well.  Although it lacks a really memorable melody, it still transports your mind with those synths and flowing hooks.  Everything in this piece feels "soft", which I like.

- The Venerable Forest / Star Ocean: The Second Story
I'd say this track is an All-Time Great.  Honestly, the SO2 "sound font" is so... odd, with it's highly synthesized orchestra with layers and layers of synth piled on top of each other.  But, back when I was young, it definitely achieved a sense of "epicness" that I had never felt from game music before.  Not only that, but its distinct style makes it easily nostalgic, too.  So every time I hear this piece, I'm back on Expel with Claude and Rena and I have that same feeling I had before; like I'm exploring a strange and beautiful medieval planet.  The melody here is so evocative I can hardly stand it.  The minor key stirs up my heart every single time.
**YES, "sounds important", that's the perfect way to describe the feelings it still gives me.
**"Dias is the most kickass character in the game."  Is he, though?  In battle, I mean?  I feel like Claude and Ashton both outclass him easily in battle.  You're right about Leon, though.  Useless kid.
**There are plenty of hot guys in games whose bodies are spilling out of their outfits.  Not Dias, though.  Or the dude from Berseria.

- Eruyt Village (FINAL FANTASY XII) / The ETHEReal String Project
Ahhhhhh......
I feel like XII's soundtrack is oft underrated, so I really enjoy it when it gets some tracks rearranged like this.  This one really brings the melody forward, but without making it the centerpiece and losing that ambience that's so strong in XII tracks.  True to the name, the string instruments really stand out here, even when they're just establishing mood.  They resist the urge to let the piano take over, and I think the track is stronger for it.
It would be nice to read a book outdoors with this playing in the background for a while.
**Man, I remember my roommate making so much fun of Eruyt Village.  He was always like "Hey, a village full of Playboy Bunnies.  How creative."  I mean, it definitely feels like paradise when you're there, but he has a point.
**Building a treetop village is probably the first idea I've ever heard that makes Minecraft sound somewhat appealing.

- Kingdom of Ixa'taka / Eternal Arcadia [Skies of Arcadia]
Ha!  This is great!  Not only is the melody bouncy and great, but I love the whooping in the background!  This put a smile on my face right away.  The contrast of the mournful sounding flute with the happy melody is so interesting, and of course the Spanish guitar underneath it all totally works.  This track is the complete package.  I tried Skies of Arcadia once and couldn't get into it, but I really should try again.  What's the best format/console to play it on?  Could I play it on my Wii U gamepad perchance?

- Yakou Mori / Xenoblade Chronicles X
The soundtrack of this game got a lot of hate from some fanboys, but man I loved it.  The OST here has a ton of personality, and you can REALLY feel it in this track.  That "one by oooonnnne...ONE BY ONE" feels so awesome every single time!  And then the high pitched flute melody kicks in and it's like GRRAAGAHGAHG!!!!  I'm getting goosebumps from this one.  I don't know how well it would work if I hadn't played Xenoblade X for over 100 hours, but it definitely takes me back to the amazing moments I had exploring this corner of the planet that you hear it in.  Over many many hours, I still could never resist whistling that melody.
**Dice: ........no.  No.  No "Final Fantasy Ecks".  Stop that nonsense now.  That's even sillier than pronouncing the letter X as "cross".  I get that people have a way that they're accustomed to pronouncing something, but when you know it's obviously wrong then you revise your behavior.  Do the moral thing, Dice.  I believe in you.
**I also agree with Dice in principle about doing away with Normal Battle themes so you can keep hearing the overworld themes, but that normal battle music served an important gameplay function in Xenoblade X in that oftentimes it was the only thing that really indicated to the player that an enemy was coming after them.
**Also: FINISH THE DANG GAME.  :P

- Lost Forest / Legaia Duel Saga
I had to double check, but yes, this is the game that Sakimoto and Mitsuda BOTH worked on along with Michiru Oshima.  And yet it doesn't necessarily have the "signature style" of either composer.  It, of course, is still really good though.  On this track (not sure which composer did it), that driving acoustic guitar is right up my alley.  I mean, honestly, this track has so many layers of gorgeous, I really can't help but wish somebody would pony up the requisite cash required to get these three folks collaborating on another game.
**I agree that his one feels "more Sakimoto", but more in the structure than the sound.

- Makna Woods / Xenoblade Chronicles
This track is beautiful.  The piano melody is truly special, although sparse, and when the flute takes over it's just as good.  On top of that, you've got a sweet sounding acoustic guitar riff playing underneath, and then the whole thing breaks down beautifully, only to be built up again.  So I'm VERY curious to hear what Dice's complaints are about this one.  The short loop, perhaps?
**Yep, I think I got it: grinding in a forest with a short loop.  Not good.

- ??? / Guest's Choice Super Mario RPG - Beware the Forest Mushrooms
Turns out I've heard this one a bunch of times and various VGM radio stations I listen to.  Had no idea what game it was from.  It's DISTINCTLY this composer (trying to avoid spoiling it), though, especially this version.  My favorite part of this arrangement is that violin.  Everything else feels familiar, but that violin over the top of everything makes it special.


Awesome episode guys, I'm so grateful for all of your hard work!

And, for the record, although I think I have already posted about it, I enjoy the length of the show very much.  I like having many different tracks in each episode.  HOWEVER: if shorter shows means more frequent Rhythm Encounters, then I would be in support of that, too.
As it is now, though, each episode feels like a treat, an event.  And I love it.  As I've said before, of all my podcasts, this is my FAVORITE podcast.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on September 22, 2016, 04:52:05 PM
- The Venerable Forest / Star Ocean: The Second Story
**"Dias is the most kickass character in the game."  Is he, though?  In battle, I mean?  I feel like Claude and Ashton both outclass him easily in battle.  You're right about Leon, though.  Useless kid.

I mean, Claude and Ashton may very well be better damage dealers in the long run, but Dias is pretty overpowered when you first meet him (for story purposes). It's kind of a JRPG trope, now that I think about it: you meet a character who wipes the floor with you, but he ends up joining your party, and your main hero ends up outclassing him (because main heroes are special snowflakes in most JRPGs). Dias is still infinitely more badass than either Claude or Ashton, though. I mean just in terms of appearance and his battle voice (particularly in the PS1 version).

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I tried Skies of Arcadia once and couldn't get into it, but I really should try again.  What's the best format/console to play it on?  Could I play it on my Wii U gamepad perchance?

This is a very good question. I know you can play the GameCube version on a Wii with a GameCube controller, but I don't think you can play it on a Wii U.

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- Lost Forest / Legaia Duel Saga
On this track (not sure which composer did it)...

This one is composed by Sakimoto.

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Awesome episode guys, I'm so grateful for all of your hard work!

And, for the record, although I think I have already posted about it, I enjoy the length of the show very much.  I like having many different tracks in each episode.  HOWEVER: if shorter shows means more frequent Rhythm Encounters, then I would be in support of that, too.
As it is now, though, each episode feels like a treat, an event.  And I love it.  As I've said before, of all my podcasts, this is my FAVORITE podcast.

As always, thank you so much for these amazingly kind words. It's so nice to hear from people who have as much fun listening to the show as we have making it! ^__^
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on September 23, 2016, 10:19:02 AM
You're welcome, of course!

And yeah, there's really no denying that Dias' voice is amazing.  Claude and Ashton sound like total wimps compared to his gravelly, sex-infused brogue.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: ScottC on September 27, 2016, 02:30:37 PM
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I tried Skies of Arcadia once and couldn't get into it, but I really should try again.  What's the best format/console to play it on?  Could I play it on my Wii U gamepad perchance??

The game goes for 100+ now if you dont still have it.  As Caitlin said Gamecube or Wii is your only choice or the orginal dreamcast version.  Alternativly you can watch us do a blind playthrough on Monday nights on our Twitch page which allows you to experince the game without actually playing it! Its win win! The music in the game is fantastic and for my first time playing it I am really enjoying it despite the stupid high random encounter rate.  The one thing this soundtrack does that I love is during boss fights if you are about to die the music gets serious in tone, or if your about to win it changes to a heroic tune.  Its actually really awesome.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Frostillicus on September 27, 2016, 05:40:38 PM
Every time I think about that game, I keep hearing "It is time.. FOR YOU TO DIE!" in my head.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dalamud_Descends on October 02, 2016, 06:00:12 PM
Mike!  You remembered! Just got done listening to the new podcast and love that you have Lunar some love.  Both Silver Star and Eternal Blue are amazing soundtracks that seem to have been lost to antiquity.  Either way, it is much appreciated that you made mention of my constant nagging on you guys to represent Iwadare and his awesome music on the podcast.

I was a little skeptical of the new format, to be honest.  It seemed like there was less music in the same amount of runtime that the older podcasts had.  Not that I don't enjoy the commentary, but I love a good selection of music and the track list from the last few recordings was smaller.  All that went away with this new podcast.  I am fine with the format if it means more frequent recordings.  Just a little feedback.  At the end of the day, I love this show and will continue supporting you guys!  Loved Alana as well!  Though she needs to remedy the whole "never played Lunar" thing!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on October 03, 2016, 12:28:51 AM
I don't consider it nagging! Given RPGFan's heritage (http://www.rpgfan.com/features/rpgfan/index.html), it was well overdue that Lunar gets some love on the show, so I appreciate the suggestion! I've always adored that theme in particular too, so it was pretty fortunate that we planned this maps/fields episode.

We're still working on the format thing without giving too much away, we'll be talking about that when episode 29 releases. Though episode 29 also features TWO guests, so we have three more tracks than usual, on what I think is a really great topic idea. So look forward to that, and keep the feedback coming! We love hearing it.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: divingfalcons on October 03, 2016, 03:06:36 AM
At the end of the day, I love this show and will continue supporting you guys!  Loved Alana as well!  Though she needs to remedy the whole "never played Lunar" thing!

Awww, thank you! I loved being on and was really nervous recording, because I have a tendency to repeat myself. Hopefully you'll hear from me again.

I do plan on playing Lunar. I'll make that promise to you.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on October 19, 2016, 03:42:28 PM
Thoughts On Rhythm Encounter 28, "Strange Wilderness"

Somehow I have always (until yesterday) missed the fact that the woman with the Australian(?) accent is Divingfalcons, who is an active and lovely forum member here who is always kind and helpful.  Now I know to read her posts with an accent.
*NOTE: The more I listen to her, the more I am second-guessing that Australian guess.  But it doesn't sound like any of the British accents I'm familiar with.

Either way, super excited for yet another Rhythm Encounter!  My favorite podcast.
And I am subscribed to this, but not through iTunes, unfortunately, as I have no iTunes account.  But I am subscribed through Pocket Casts on my android phone.  And... that's just as good, right?


Giza Plains / Over the Sky -Final Fantasy XII-
5 seconds in and I already love this.  It's so cheerful that I can't help but smile.  The familiarity from the source material helps cement that emotion, but this remix is just different enough to be interesting as well.  The synths here are pretty darn good, too.  I thought the flute was a live instrument at first.
Honestly, this is exactly the kind of music I want playing when I am exploring a beautiful locale.  In a game or IRL, for that matter.
I really liked that it started very simple and it just added layers and layers until the climax, then went back to the simpler aesthetic from the beginning.


The Cold Morning Star Passes / Tales of Vesperia
As someone who is currently playing Tales of Graces f, I appreciate this.  However, the appreciation comes with a smirk, as this sounds like it's just exactly the same as one of the main field themes from Graces.  Or Xillia.  Or Symphonia.
These Tales games have good and creative field themes for a lot of their areas, but there's always a few that sound just like this: Generic Wall of Synth Noise.  In a vacuum, they're not bad to listen to.  They're kind of neat.  But in-game, they can get a bit grating on a loop.  Just too busy, and the melody isn't distinct enough.
*That being said, everything you guys said about it is pretty on-point.  Can't argue with it.


Neverending Journey / Lost Odyssey
Alright.... now THIS was cool.  Not a massive fan of electric guitar in RPG themes (especially field themes) but THIS..... THIS, man.  Totally unexpected and fascinating.  I REALLY liked the acoustic guitar at the beginning, joined by the flute (every RPG soundtrack needs flute somewhere), but when it broke down into that electric guitar portion, it was super-effective.  I liked it in spite of my biases.  "Aggressively epic" would be my two word description.
*ok, I typed that bit about flute well before I got to where you guys went on your spiel thing about flute.  Glad we're on the same wavelength there.


Street of Memories / Persona 3
So, for someone who doesn't play Persona games, I sure get excited when music from the franchise crops up on Rhythm Encounter.  While this track isn't quite as "Persona style" as a lot of others, some of it is still there.  And I don't think "miserable" is a fair term for this track!  "Melancholy" maybe, but it's a very pleasant listen.  It's not depressing or boring.  I like the feelings it evokes. The piano even sounds like a rain, a little.
*maybe I would consider it depressing if I had the experience of the game to give it context.  But on its own, I thought there was a certain sweetness to this track.
**pfft, ok, Mike just said that same thing about the context.  Maybe I shouldn't type anything until you guys are done talking.  But I won't do that.
***"All of Persona music would be good music for sitting in a cafe" YES AND THAT IS AWESOME for some reason


Urban Noise / Parasite Eve
This lived up to its name.  I always forget that Shimomura did the OST for PE because it really doesn't feel like her signature style at all, which is fine.  But this track felt like good "background noise", for me.  It sets an effective mood, but it's not something I enjoy listening to on its own.
*I agree about the instrumentation, though.  It's cool and distinct, and the beat gives it that metropolitan feel.


Sea of Sand -Shallistera- / Atelier Shallie
This, on the other hand, is gorgeous.  The Atelier series consistently has fantastic RPG music, and this track could hold its own against anything from the big-name JRPG franchises.  It kind of has a Western feel (with a capital W), which I like a lot, but it doesn't go too far.  I think if they replaced the flute with a whistle it would sound like it came right out of a Wild Arms game.  But the flute keeps it feeling "European", if you will, which is a necessary part of the Atelier aesthetic, if you ask me.
Incidentally, "Atelier Aesthetic" would be a good name for a remix album of Atelier songs.
*I'm playing Rorona right now and I'm worried that I will also start to feel like it's work.  But for now (early days yet) it's still just fun silliness for me.
**Also, in Rorona, Water is the easiest resource to get; you just draw as much as you want for free from the well behind the atelier.  It's odd to imagine an Atelier game without water.  Neat.
***"Familiar", "light", and "happy" are three good words for Atelier music.  Nice job on those, Divingfalcons.


Toward the Horizon / Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Oh man.... what does this remind me of?  Google says the composer of this piece is Noriyuki Iwadare, who has done............. Radiata Stories?  I don't know if that's what this reminds me of, but either way this track smacks of Turn-of-the-Millennium JRPG music, all the way.  Which makes sense, I guess.  It's not bad at all, and not even generic.  But it definitely feels formulaic and sort of like a product of its time.  But a GOOD product, nevertheless.  It's cute and fun and has that yummy JRPG flavor!
*NOTE: I am aware that Iwadare has also done Grandia, Growlanser, and Langrisser, but I haven't played ANY of those and yes I am a terrible person.


Around in the Wilderness / Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Hmm.... this doesn't sound like a Star Ocean song much at all, at first.  But as it gets more synthy it does just barely start to have that SO feel.  Kinda feels like it needs a little bit more structure, though.  A bit "too" environmental.  Like... it's not really doing any one thing or another.  It's just sort of there.
*I can hear that "funk" you guys are talking about, yeah, but... still, it's just not enough to give this track a stronger identity.


Field of the Machinae / Xenoblade Chronicles
Good dear sweet heavens XBC has amazing music.  How the heck does every track I hear from this game impress me so much??  Like many others I have heard from this game, this track is so richly layered and lush I can't help but feel moved in my heart.  And it's so distinctly sci-fi, too, while still feeling like an RPG field theme.  Tracks like this can really make me want to play a game immediately.  I wish I had more words to use to praise this game and praise its layering and instrumentation, but I feel like I would just be repeating myself over and over.  Utterly amazing, and this narrowly beats out the Giza Plains remix for my Favorite Track of the Episode.
*Anyone know which composer did this track?  XBC has like 5 composers, so....  was it ACE+, maybe?  Nothing on the Xenoblade wiki has the name "Field of the Machine".
**After a little more research, I was right, it was ACE+.  Apparently this is 3 different composers?
***Dang it, I did all that research, and you guys just came out and said it was ACE+.  See?  I should wait before I type all this crap.


??? / Guest's Choice (Into The Thick Of It from Secret of Mana)
This was... really extremely pleasant and nice.  And.... I'll just have to actually play this one of these days.  Is it on Wii U VC?


Amazing episode once again, guys.  Sorry it sometimes takes me a while to get around to episodes, but I always love it when I do!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on October 19, 2016, 06:39:54 PM
Yep, that's our head of reviews, Alana.  She lives in England, but more than that is not mine to say.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: divingfalcons on October 19, 2016, 06:54:13 PM
You're not the first person to think I'm Australian, Arvis! As Tooker says, I'm indeed from England. Sussex to be precise, although I sometimes slip into a Northern accent, which comes from my dad's side.

Thank you for your kind words. I kinda bumbled my way through out of sheer nerves and adoration for the music. Unfortunately Secret of Mana is only on Wii VC, otherwise you'll have to settle for an SNES and expensive copy of the game or the IOS version. It's a lovely game. Beautiful, and one of my favourite video game soundtracks of all time.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Andrew on October 19, 2016, 07:17:31 PM
Alana, you and I need to appear on a podcast together so people can hear the difference between a British and an Australian accent!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Tooker on October 20, 2016, 01:30:19 AM
Yes.  This needs to happen.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: divingfalcons on October 20, 2016, 03:54:29 AM
Alana, you and I need to appear on a podcast together so people can hear the difference between a British and an Australian accent!

Yes!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on October 20, 2016, 08:48:48 AM
Ok... just to clarify, I do know the difference between most British accents and Australian/Kiwi accents (I have had friends from all areas), but something about Alana's just threw me off.  It sounded like a combination of things, and her "O"s sound Australian to me.

I hate being isolated over here in a massively huge country separated from everywhere cool by gigantic oceans.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: divingfalcons on October 20, 2016, 09:34:26 AM
Haha, we're not digging at you :)

Try living on an island surrounded by an ocean that's basically segregated itself from the rest of the mainland.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Frostillicus on October 20, 2016, 10:09:51 AM
I hate being isolated over here in a massively huge country separated from everywhere cool by gigantic oceans.

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Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dalamud_Descends on November 07, 2016, 08:45:40 AM
Love that you guys are putting out more frequent episodes!  I haven't listened to the entire new podcast, but I'm loving it so far.  Although I could have sworn that the Taylor Davis version of Zanafkand was played on a previous episode, making two versions of Besaid Island and Zanarkand being played on Rhythm Encounter.  Also, Stephen and Derek played Tsuyoshi Sekito's guitar rendition of the FFX battle theme on a very early episode as well.  All that to say FFX has been represented, though still largely underutilized based on its awesome soundtrack.

On another note, as much as you guys love the Xeno and Chrono series, have any of you had the chance to listen to Sam Dillard's Xeno/Cross album?  I just bought it on iTunes for $4.99 and it was well worth the purchase!  It's only six tracks, but he weaves  Mitsuda's two soundtracks together into nothing short of perfection, and all with his signature flare for cinematics.  I would highly recommend it and let me know what you think.  Not sure if you guys take Reader soundtrack reviews, but this one got my writing juices flowing.  Anyways, keep up the great work!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on November 07, 2016, 10:47:20 AM
Yeah, the Xeno Cross album is great! By the time we get to our second Interlude episode, it may be too late to include it as a "recent" album... but speaking for myself, I'll try and work it into a future episode. :)

Thanks for the feedback, and hopefully you like the rest of the episode!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Andrew on November 07, 2016, 05:36:45 PM
Late reply...

Try living on an island surrounded by an ocean that's basically segregated itself from the rest of the mainland.

:D

Seriously though, Australia is fantastic and I love living here.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Lian_Kazairl on December 18, 2016, 10:35:10 PM
ATTENTION Fans of Rhythm Encounter!

We're preparing our GOTY and MOTY features, and I know some of our listeners have asked about whether we're doing listener picks this year. The answer is yes! We're going to sprinkle them through our traditional blowout episodes, so PM me or Mike (or just post here) your picks for MOTY 2016! As a courtesy to your fellow listeners, please try to limit your selections to no more than three pieces. We probably won't be able to feature everything, but we'll try to make sure that everyone who sends something in gets a spot on the show.

The deadline for this is December 28th, so be sure to get your picks in by then!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on December 21, 2016, 04:47:57 PM
Ok, finally listening to the Interlude episode!

Thoughts:

Iclucian Dance / Ys VIII -Lacrimosa of DANA-
Allowing a single violin to be the feature instrument driving the melody on this one is what makes it special.  Without it, it would be another too-synthy "very Ys" track that basically just amounts to a lot of sound without much in the way of memorability.
But that well-defined melody stirs something lovely in among all that powerful sound.

The Underwater Ruins of Amenochi / Tales of Berseria
Classic Tales of.  This sounds like it could be in literally any other Tales game.  But in a good way.  Very synthy, but lush, as most Tales music tends to be.  The minor key breakdown about halfway through the piece was a welcome surprise, though.
You guys nailed it, though: this track makes it sounds like its location is big.  I pictured a very large underwater amphitheatre while listening.
And yes, a lot of Tales music sounds very similar to the distinct style of Star Ocean 2.

Autumn Sunshine / Tokyo Xanadu eX+
Ok, I'm happy.  I think I just listened to happy.  Someone made happy into music.  And this is what came out.  So jolly.  So sweet.  Couldn't help but smirk the whole time I was listening to that bouncy melody.
Think we'll ever get a localization of this?  Although I doubt I'll ever play it.

Special Arrange Medley FFRK Ver. Arrange / Final Fantasy Record Keeper
Nothing beats classic FF music.  So darn powerful, and so memorable.  This arrangement mixes various FF themes surprisingly well.  Surprisingly, it's when the FFXII theme (of all themes) comes in that I really broke into a big grin.  My heart is still stirred deeply by VI's music, though.


Great job, guys!  Loved the episode.  the length of the normal ones doesn't bother me at all, but neither does the length of these short ones.  Keep up all your great work.  Thanks a million.


EDIT: Loved the prank message on Marzipan's answering machine at the end.  Well done.  I adore a good turn-of-the-century reference.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on December 22, 2016, 02:19:09 AM
Thank you as always for your lively feedback, Arvis. :) I'm glad you liked the episode. It's much easier for us to record this way by spinning off the "recent" segment to its own show. It gives more freedom to talk about these songs without worrying about cutting into the "main" topic, so both shows get more breathing room. And it also means slightly less time recording single sessions, which means less fatigue, heh.

When [member=1201]Wild Armor[/member] broke into Strongbad during one of our "off air" breaks, I nearly lost it. I just HAD to include it as an outtake. Glad you enjoyed that as well. :D
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on February 09, 2017, 05:39:16 PM
Interlude 2

TF29 / Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
A helicopter approaches the island prison, as waves crash against the rocky cliff faces.
You can get in.
But you can never get out.
Abandon hope, all ye who enter here.
At least that's the impression I get, anyways.  Bleak.  Heavy.  Totally cool.
 
World of Nine Wood Hills / World of Final Fantasy
This is the most Final Fantasy XIII track I have ever heard.  It's more Final Fantasy XIII than anything in Final Fantasy XIII.... if that even makes sense.
That being said, it's pretty darn good.  I actually really love this distinct style and it wasn't what I was expecting at all from a track with this title.  Always love the violin that you get with XIII stuff, the echoing reverb is cool, and the vocals are oddly charming.  And when the piano gets urgent in the background, it really ties everything together.

The Song of Hometown Departure / Atelier Firis
So, I don't know if it's just that all Atelier games have amazing music or if I just really love flute-driven melodies.  But this is worthy of its Atelier heritage, for sure.  This series really knows how to do "happy" with its music.
Incidentally... I did NOT appreciate that cat litter discussion.  Thanks for that.

Paniola Town (Night) / Pokmon Sun & Moon
I played this game, thoroughly and recently, and I have no recollection of this at all.  It's quite good.  That Old West style, lazy guitar strumming really feels awesome, especially with the whistling (also a staple of Old West style music). 
It definitely doesn't sound like it's from Pokemon, for sure.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Artimicia on February 15, 2017, 06:04:46 PM
GET KOICHI SUIGYAMA ON SOMEHOW!!

Seriously that would be the best interview ever, I can translate I know like 12 words in Japanese... seriously that would be the best thing ever.

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dalamud_Descends on February 20, 2017, 05:18:02 PM
You guys are keeping me in suspense!  So ready for MOTY!  Hope to see it soon!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on February 20, 2017, 05:50:49 PM
We ended up needing more production time than expected on the podcasts, but you may see it rolling out sooner than you think...!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Reta on March 01, 2017, 02:37:30 PM
Fantastic job on everything this year, and excellent picks! I'm greatly honored to see you played all three of my requests.

By the way, Caitlin, about that riff in Phantasmal Blaze and other CS2 tracks - it's not taken note-for-note from anything in 3rd, but it's an obvious homage to The Final Choice (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=robYHoHOFK8) from that game (which is reused in both Cold Steel games as well, pretty much confirming the reference is deliberate). Awakening Will (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHf7MUSiES4) in particular is basically The Final Choice 2.

I also totally see what you mean about it reminding you of Ace Combat - I'd thought the same thing. The beats in Phantasmal Blaze really remind me of those in Megalith -Agnus Dei- from AC4 in particular. There aren't any actual connections between the composers and Ace Combat, though. You weren't missing anything there.

If you haven't heard it already, definitely check out Liberation Drive (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ph1y7rpTyo) from Tokyo Xanadu since you like Phantasmal Blaze so much - they share some common elements and I'm very sure they were both composed by the same person, Takahiro Unisuga. (I think he did both The Final Choice and Awakening Will as well.) While the game itself isn't necessarily Falcom's best, it has an exceptional soundtrack even by their standards.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on March 22, 2017, 05:25:40 PM
Woof.  Here we go.

Thoughts on Rhythem Encounter MOTY 2016 First Movement

Give Me!! / Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE
It's J-pop!  Yep.  Pretty catchy.  Cute!

Epiphany Fields / Oxenfree
Mmmmm.......
This is a pretty aptly-named track.  I like it when the synthy tweeters appear a minute or so in.  It feels sleepy, but also emotive, like it has weight.  I feel like this is what 3am would sound like if it were a song and not a time of day.
*"It's in an undeniably happier key".  That's a good way of describing it, yes! 

Furuya / The Silver Case
Good heavens, this is a very cool track.  That bass line... the way it just keeps pounding and moving the song forward.  Makes it difficult to not move along with it.  And of course, the melody being essentially unending scales on some kind of xylophone instrument, I don't know, it was awesome.
*Incidentally, the Persona Q track that played in the background of this discussion here sounded pretty great.

Forever Flame / Dark Souls III (Miracle of Sound)
This is pretty bad.  But... I understand that's just my taste.  I dislike this series very much, I dislike this genre of music in general, and these lyrics are wretched.  The vocal performance is not good, either, until the chorus hits, where it works much better.  There's good stuff here (wailing guitar solos are always welcome) but overall, this is maybe my least-favorite track ever featured on Rhythm Encounter.  I almost skipped it.
*TBF, I paused the podcast after this and this song was totally stuck in my head.
*GAH, it's growing on me as it plays in the background!  Dang it!
*Totally agree with [member=5236]Lian_Kazairl[/member] about the vocals.  They are definitely helped by never going distorted.  The chorus us legitimately good.

MORE TO COME!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on March 27, 2017, 04:38:30 PM
Simple Gratitude / I am Setsuna
Don't know when I'll ever get around to playing this one, but I love the soundtrack.  This piece really helped melt some of the stress of the day away.  Solo piano always has something special to it.  The simplicity of just being able to focus on the melody here is welcome.

Hellfire / Final Fantasy XV
I'm not always a big fan of the Epic Chanting Chorus pieces from FF boss battles.  In context, of course, they're amazing.  This one, though, is very good.  The breakdown, especially, makes it special by preventing it from feeling too "patterned", if that makes sense.
Love the variety here, too!  No short loop, but various sections that all feel complete and well-connected.



Corridor of Reveries / The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II
Great track!  So excited to get into this series this year after all the accolades it earned last year.  This track is really solid!  I love that it "feels" like a Trails piece, but at the same time, higher quality and "newer".

New World Order / Granblue Fantasy
Is this an Uematsu track?  Because it honestly sounds like whoever wrote this was channeling Hamauzu pretty heavily.  It's not bad.

The End of the Road Should Be Here (English) / Fire Emblem Fates
Heh.  I cracked a smile when I heard "You are the ocean's gray waves" at the beginning.  That got old pretty quickly in Fates.  This melody is quite good, though!  This is a cut above a lot of Fire Emblem music, which tends to be a bit too busy overall and weak on the melody side.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on March 28, 2017, 02:44:15 PM
World of Sunshine / World of Final Fantasy
This.... this is awesome.  This speaks to my heart.  A song that can take me back to my childhood, when the game it's from is new and I haven't even played it yet!  Impressive.  Flute-driven, bouncy, and in a joyous key.  This is what I come to RPG music for.  Really really liked this.

Soul of Cinder / Dark Souls III
As the host said, this is completely different from the preceding track. :P
Not my usual taste, but this is certainly well-done for the style.  Sort of LotR-lite, which is a huge compliment from me.  These kinds of compositions tend to be overdone, but this one feels fresh; sufficiently epic without trying too hard.
Wow, though, the way it breaks down into a softer, but ultra-somber, violin piece (with, of course, the ringing bells, which I always love) makes this more than good!  Excellent selection from a series I don't care for with music I usually don't like much!
*Totally agree with the host's comments about "too much bombast".
*Yep, second half sold me on this, too, [member=5236]Lian_Kazairl[/member]

ARDYN II / Final Fantasy XV
This is gonna sound weird, but did this feel like a really good Tales of track to anyone else?  I kinda got that vibe, a bit.  Either way, it was pretty good.  I love a lot of the XV soundtrack, but this isn't one that I have really heard/noticed before.  It's a bit of a slow burn, and I think I need to hear it a couple more times.

Interminable Dilemma / Zero Time Dilemma
Mmmm, this is exceptional.  A lot of games from this genre tend to have soundtracks that excel at ambience, but this is good even among them.  I really like the synth voice, and those clear ringing notes that drive the main melody (before it gets a bit dirty on the breakdown).
*"Haunting and beautiful", yes, well said.

Wintry Arrival / The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II
Loving this.  This track meets kind of a high standard set by the rich world of JRPG music that came before it.  It's not Mitsuda, but it is still sufficiently evocative and sets an unmistakable tone.  It doesn't get too "wall of sound"-ish, a la Tales, which is always welcome.

Battlefield Activation (FM Ver.) / Etrian Odyssey V
What on earth!?  This is catchy and fun, but not what I was expecting from EO5, at all!  This sounds like something right out of a Mega Man title.  My only experience with EO, though, is Untold, and the music in that was, I thought, amazing, but nothing like this at all.  It was all higher-fidelity tunes with a modern feel and not a lot of ultrasynth like what's happening here.  What's the difference between this "FM Version" and another version of this same track?


Listener Picks
Ahhh!!  I can't believe you guys chose my selections from Stardew Valley for this segment!  I really couldn't be more thrilled to have contributed to my favorite podcast.  Thanks again, guys.
Typing up commentary on these would seem oddly self serving, though, so I'll forego it this time. ;)
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on March 31, 2017, 03:40:04 PM
Melancholia / Final Fantasy XV
Shimomura at the top of her game.  The title really says everything.  I love how it manages to have "pace" while still being very somber and sad.

Alight (Storm) / Fire Emblem Fates
I like that little whistle that pops up in the background!  Gives the whole thing a burst of flavor in what might otherwise be a somewhat generic track.  Fates really did have good music, moreso than a lot of the classic FE titles.  Even without the whistle, though, this is still one solid piece of music.

Melodia de la Montaa / Chronicles of Time
I really need to pay more attention to Chrono arrange albums being released if this is the kind of stuff on them.  This very Western European instrumentation makes me insanely happy, with Spanish guitar and accordion (or at least some sort of synthy accordion).  I'd be very surprised to hear if this was the State Song of Montana, because it doesn't feel "American" at all, much less midwestern.  ;)

Noctis / Final Fantasy XV
As someone who isn't even to Ch. 5 of this game yet, I'm very curious when I'll be hearing this one.  It's definitely beautiful; a classic string/piano composition, with a classic melody, and a lot of heart.  It feels like something that would play during a montage that starts sad but becomes happy and hopeful as it goes, before ending on another sad note.  That was a very specific description, I know.

Phantasmal Blaze / The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II
Uh... yeah, this definitely sounds like it's called "Phantasmal Blaze", that's for sure.  The main violin hook here really stands out, and I like that the urgent percussion is understated.  I am getting more and more eager to play this.  I'm surprised at how long it goes without looping.

Gladion's Theme / Pokmon Sun & Moon
Although this track doesn't particularly stand out to me amongst all the RPG music from last year, I do think it's a very interesting piece for a Pokemon game, and really harkens back to early SNES soundtracks, which is a good thing.
*Yes, Mega Man X is a good comparison!

Your Love is a Drug / VA-11 HALL-A
This just needs the lead singer of Depeche Mode singing over it and it would be complete, I think.  I do love the synth a lot, and that bell sound they use to drive the melody is fantastic.  Such a nice little noise.  The synth electric guitar is a bit cheesy, though.
*LOL, glad I'm not the only one who thought 80s after the first 3 seconds. :P

The Sound of Leaves Rubbing My Back / Atelier Firis
Atelier music is consistently my favorite of everything Rhythm Encounter covers.  I just love happy, flute-driven pieces with strong melodies, and this franchise always supplies them.  This one has TWO flutes!  The acoustic guitar work underneath them is very welcome, too.  Other than the rain chimes, I think that's all of the instruments.  I love it!  Simple is often good when it comes to music.

Oblivion (Never Let It Go Version) / Final Fantasy XIV: Duality
When I heard the rain chimes early in this one, I thought it might be a weird continuation of the Atelier Firis track, especially since it was all acoustic.  But the vocals tell me otherwise.  This is quite gorgeous, and the little splashes of cello are amazing.  Kinda sounds like an Imogen Heap song.  Breakdown is lovely lovely lovely.

??? / Host's Choice
[spoiler]Ah, a Persona 5 track!
This started pretty generically, but then got a bit more creative after the first 10 or 15 seconds.  Persona has always had fantastic music, but I'm not a huge fan of battle themes in general.  This was decent, but I've already forgotten it.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on March 31, 2017, 09:03:51 PM
Ah, I always love seeing your commentary here, Arvis. :D Every so often when you podcast, it can feel like you're talking into a vacuum, hoping someone is hearing it and liking it, but you never know! So it means a lot that you always come here and offer up such detailed commentary. It's fun talking about these on the show, but even better hearing it resonates with you. :)

And yes, there's much Chrono out there from 2015-2016, but if you only dive into one... well, it should be the official arrange album (http://www.rpgfan.com/soundtracks/chrono-tfat/index.html), haha. But if you dive into TWO, then Chronicles of Time (http://www.chroniclesoftime.net/) should be your next venture. It's epic in both sound and diversity, and if you couldn't already tell from this (http://www.rpgfan.com/features/Music_of_the_Year_2016/Editors_Favorites/Mike-Salbato.html), I wholeheartedly recommend it!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on April 03, 2017, 11:00:13 AM
Thank you, [member=8]Mike[/member] . :)

Rhythm Encounter is my favorite podcast, and I just can't help but want to get involved.  I love VGM so much.

Also, I have officially added To Far Away Times, Chronology, and Xeno Cross to my list of albums to check out.  The only reason I'm not hot on Chronicles of Time is because I'm not as big a Trigger fan as I am Cross, so I went with Chronology instead, for the jazz.
It'll be a while before I get to any of them, as I have a list I'm trying to get through.  Currently working on listening to the FFXIII-2 soundtrack (best part of the game), and then I've got about 21 other albums on the list before getting to these.  The original Chrono Trigger OST is included in that number, though. :P
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dalamud_Descends on August 09, 2017, 06:40:34 PM
Not a knock on Marcos and the interviews he's been getting, but when can we expect a new episode of Rhythm Encounter?  I've been missing you guys and after Mike's State of the Site address, I figured it couldn't hurt to ask.  Hope all is well with you guys and hope to hear more from you all on the podcast!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on August 11, 2017, 12:35:26 AM
Hi! I have to apologize for how this was handled. We were still figuring out what to do when we recorded that interlude in March, and I'll admit our messaging in the recording and episode description was confusing - "Are they on hiatus or coming right back?" was likely the question.

We should have explained better then and the error in communication is exactly why I published that Letter from the Editor, as an example of the kind of thing we can't do.

To the point: Caitlin and I both had to leave the show, because our work efforts were needed elsewhere. For me, I also knew my own change in position was looming, right alongside E3. I adore Rhythm Encounter, but I didn't want to risk affecting the quality of the show and turning in weaker efforts, since I have to spend the energy elsewhere.

As for the future of "regular" episodes, we're not sure what to do with it yet, even though we discuss it. Everyone on staff is committed to their departments, so it's hard to find people to work in a time-heavy show like Rhythm as well. I want the show to have a phoenix moment, but I can't promise anything right now.

I know that's... kind of a downer answer, haha. But you folks in this thread are such committed listeners, and you deserved an explanation. My apologies again for that explanation coming so late, and we'll do better about this in the future.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Dalamud_Descends on August 15, 2017, 01:50:15 PM
That is very sad to hear, but thanks so much for being open and honest about it.  I hope that Rhythm Encounter can be revived and if there's any way that I can help, please let me know.  You guys were the first VGM related podcast that helped satisfy my craving to find new RPG music that I might not have ever heard before.  I've found a significant number of great VGM podcasts since, but you guys offered something special that I hope can still continue.  Best wishes!
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Wild Armor on August 15, 2017, 06:05:07 PM
Yeah, what's up with that Marcos guy, sheesh! ;) [/it'sjoke]

I know how you feel, [member=5425]Dalamud_Descends[/member] . I'm very eager to have regular Rhythm Encounter episodes start up again, but things have been a little busy lately. We've been having the interviews because it's a little easier and we've just been getting the opportunity to chat with some enthusiastic arrangers and composers.

However, like Mike said, when the show does come back, it will be a Phoenix moment, where we come back lively and with full force. Until then, thank you everyone for being understanding and being patient with this break.

(Also, you rock [member=5425]Dalamud_Descends[/member]! Thanks for being an RPGFan Music listener (you too, [member=5295]Arvis[/member]! [/endterriblepunIhavenoregrets]. ;)

A parting gift: One of my favorite boss themes for this year: BLUE REFLECTION: TIGAR(ALL PHASE MIX) (https://youtu.be/96l0MwFAf7c) (They need to let Hayato Asano compose more projects solo!)

Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Electricb7 on November 28, 2017, 01:23:40 AM
I miss Rhythm Encounter >:(
Is it never coming back?
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on November 30, 2017, 05:23:37 PM
Same
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Mike on December 08, 2017, 04:32:10 PM
I miss Rhythm Encounter >:(
Is it never coming back?

I hate throwing out overly-official-sounding vague statements, but... we currently don't have any plans to bring it back.

I want to at some point, but it's a logistics issue, so until we have a way to make it work again on a regular basis, it will have to remain on hiatus. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Arvis on December 08, 2017, 04:44:05 PM
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Title: Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread
Post by: Perigryn on March 24, 2018, 12:26:28 AM
I second this sadface.