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Title: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 23, 2013, 11:20:11 AM
"Square Enix will live broadcast its E3 showcase next month through a new program dubbed "Square Enix Presents."

It will offer a "diverse and user-friendly" range of programming, Square Enix promises.

"Square Enix will be showcasing a terrific lineup of games this E3 Expo," said Square Enix Japan marketing director Akio Oofuji. "Square Enix Presents is a new way we can engage on a more meaningful and personal level with our community and fans and share with them the spectacle and excitement of E3."


SQUARE ENIX Presents (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2gbLaZRPoI)

"The full programming schedule for Square Enix Presents will be revealed in the coming weeks, including the games and key personalities featured."

Viewers can expect coverage of all key titles in SQUARE ENIX's 2013 lineup during E3 across the following channels..."

 
YouTube: www.youtube.com/squareenixpresents
Twitter: https://twitter.com/@squareenix
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SquareEnix

Source(s): Gematsu (http://gematsu.com/2013/05/square-enix-to-live-broadcast-e3-showcase), Nova Crystallis (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/05/square-enix-adds-livestreaming-to-its-e3-booth-this-year/)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on May 23, 2013, 04:53:18 PM
What I'd like:
Announce Versus for holidays (a stretch, but a nice surprise) and I'd also like them to bring something back from the grave.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Taelus on May 23, 2013, 05:19:59 PM
Intriguing. A good start, beats the closed megatheater.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 23, 2013, 05:51:35 PM
Remember that this guy flew over all the way from Japan to the PS Meeting just for this:

(http://i41.tinypic.com/vsm7gn.jpg)

For their own good and for all the bad times I hope they deliver. After so many years of fucking so much stuff this is the event they can't afford to disappoint their fans.

And I would hate if they safe something for TGS at this point, but is not unexpected if they do it anyway.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klutz64 on May 23, 2013, 06:32:04 PM
What I'd like:
Announce Versus for holidays (a stretch, but a nice surprise) and I'd also like them to bring something back from the grave.

Dewprism 3? :P
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Kevadu on May 23, 2013, 07:17:35 PM
And I would hate if they safe something for TGS at this point, but is not unexpected if they do it anyway.

I'd say it's almost certain that they'll save something for TGS.  The question is just how much, and will they have anything worth talking about at E3...

Let's hope they do.  This is about their last chance to redeem themselves.  The fact that they're actually streaming it (instead of doing the usual behind-closed-doors BS) is a promising sign.  It's like they've decided to acknowledge that their fans actually still exist (well, at least I think they do...somewhere...).
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Hathen on May 23, 2013, 07:30:02 PM
Dewprism 3? :P

There was a 2?
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Fadedsun on May 23, 2013, 07:36:00 PM
I don't even care about Versus anymore;that game is dead to me, but I do hope they announce something worthwhile.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 23, 2013, 07:39:14 PM
I don't even care about Verus anymore;that game is dead to me, but I do hope they announce something worthwhile.

That's gonna be Versus. :p

...or Versus renamed to XV. Or Versus still being Versus but renamed like Agito to Type-0. Or FFXV actually being a brand new Final Fantasy for PS4.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Fadedsun on May 23, 2013, 08:55:32 PM
I don't even care about Verus anymore;that game is dead to me, but I do hope they announce something worthwhile.

That's gonna be Versus. :p

...or Versus renamed to XV. Or Versus still being Versus but renamed like Agito to Type-0. Or FFXV actually being a brand new Final Fantasy for PS4.

You are correct, sir. Curse these fast typing fingers!
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: cj_iwakura on May 23, 2013, 09:28:15 PM
Dewprism 3? :P

There was a 2?

My sentiments exactly.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klutz64 on May 23, 2013, 10:22:23 PM
If I remember correctly, there was but it never made it to the US. I could very well be wrong, though. Still wouldn't mind more whichever form it comes in.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Alisha on May 23, 2013, 11:48:00 PM
versus is vaporware
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: kyuusei on May 24, 2013, 01:34:36 AM
Maybe it's because I'm going to E3 and have no use for a live broadcast, but I'm way more excited about their merch store shipping to Canada.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on May 24, 2013, 02:08:15 AM
Maybe it's because I'm going to E3 and have no use for a live broadcast, but I'm way more excited about their merch store shipping to Canada.

OMG...FUCKING FINALLY..... JEEEZUS.   I've wanted the Valkyrie Profile keychain for what's felt like 20 years.  So simple, so pretty.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: kyuusei on May 24, 2013, 02:15:37 AM
...I just wanted FemShep and MGR Raiden figures.

/random
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Hathen on May 24, 2013, 02:21:09 AM
Matsuno Fantasy or maybe letting Masato Kato work on a project that isn't set up to screw him over would interest me.

I can dream
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on May 24, 2013, 02:25:27 AM
Now you too can blow a couple of Benjamins (or whatever passes for Cannuck's $100) on a tacky replica of Squall's Gunblade to display next to your Kilingon Bat'leth (or however its spelled).

As for expectations that are being built up to be dashed expertly, I'd like Parasite Eve 3. Accept no substitutes.

Better yet, let them announce a collaboration between somebody like Capcom or Konami and announce either Breath of Fire 6 or Suikoden 6 respectfully.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 24, 2013, 05:36:54 AM
versus is vaporware

Assuming anything about Versus outside of the few rumors going on could bite you in the ass to be honest.

Besides, is not strange that in the last decade brand new FF titles can take around half a decade (or more) to produce. And also by saying that Versus is vaporware you are like ignoring all the stuff that has happened with SQEX since 2006, not to mention all the times in interviews where Nomura seemed really excited to talk more about the game but he couldn't do it because there was still business going on at the company with Versus and a bunch of other stuff.

Versus or not at E3 I really hope that whatever they hyped in the PS Meeting is worth the wait.

Edit: http://www.jp.square-enix.com/event/e313/ JP site for the event.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: cj_iwakura on May 24, 2013, 06:37:08 PM
I'm confident Versus will happen, just a question of how and when(and what it'll get called).
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Taelus on May 24, 2013, 06:50:24 PM
Matsuno Fantasy or maybe letting Masato Kato work on a project that isn't set up to screw him over would interest me.

I can dream

For the love of god this.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klyde Chroma on May 24, 2013, 09:54:55 PM
interviews where Nomura seemed really excited to talk more about the game but he couldn't do it because there was still business going on at the company with Versus and a bunch of other stuff.



^^ This is the very reason I am sure versus will come in time. Be it sooner or later, it will come... No matter how disappointing the news of a project not happening may prove, they have no qualms about saying pretty bluntly "Don't hold your breath" or "There are no plans for said project right now". I am confidant if versus was in fact a complete pipe dream we would know it by this point.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on May 24, 2013, 11:26:55 PM
Matsuno Fantasy or maybe letting Masato Kato work on a project that isn't set up to screw him over would interest me.

I can dream

For the love of god this.

A new Tactics Ogre Battle 64: Knights of Lodis would be nice, especially since Squeenix already took the liberty of revisiting the series with the PSP remake of Tactics Ogre.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Annubis on May 25, 2013, 01:19:50 AM
lol, I'd actually buy a launch PS4 if they had a Ogre Battle game on it.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Lard on May 25, 2013, 02:15:40 AM
So is this what's going to happen to E3 now? Every company is going to do its own style of Nintendo Direct that they can control with no room for surprises during the main speeches? Blech
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Taelus on May 25, 2013, 02:27:17 AM
The exact same surprises are happening. The location is changing. To the home viewer, does it really matter if the surprise comes from a Square Enix/Nintendo boardroom or an E3 stage? I'd rather them not spend all the money on the song and dance at E3 and do the cheaper broadcasts.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 25, 2013, 05:30:15 AM
@Lard: Do you want another Mega Closed Theater?
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: AuraChannelerChris on May 25, 2013, 11:12:17 AM
Bring on the smartphone games.

Versus confirmed for Android.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 25, 2013, 07:04:59 PM
Pre-orders open for Final Fantasy Eau de toilette Noctis perfume (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/05/pre-orders-open-for-final-fantasy-eau-de-toilette-noctis-perfume/) -- Source: Nova Crystallis
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: wenchwogg on May 26, 2013, 12:34:55 PM
I'd like some RPGs worth getting excited about. Doesn't even have to be on next gen consoles, I'd prefer 3DS or Vita.

They'll probably just show off Bravely Default and announce a cell phone Final Fantasy Match-3 RPG
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Ramza on May 27, 2013, 08:54:28 AM
Livealive remake

This is all I want
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 27, 2013, 10:27:40 AM
Square Enix feel they have something to learn from Kickstarter (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/26/square-enix-feel-they-have-something-to-learn-from-kickstarter/) -- Source: Siliconera

"Square Enix recently revealed that, despite being major hits, Tomb Raider, Hitman Absolution and Sleeping Dogs failed to meet their sales forecasts. In a financial results briefing, Soon-to-be Square Enix president Yosuke Matsuda explained the problem in more detail."

Square Enix: We will continue to pursue high-end game quality; new information to be shared at E3 (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/05/square-enix-we-will-continue-to-pursue-high-end-game-quality-new-information-to-be-shared-at-e3/) -- Source: Nova Crystallis

"The full transcript from Square Enix’s financial briefing for the previous fiscal year is now available (http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/news/pdf/20130527_01en.pdf) in English and with it a little more insight into the company's plans for the future."
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Farron on May 27, 2013, 10:59:05 AM
For once I'm actually glad to hear what SE is saying. Even if things are somewhat of a mess in Japan, at least their Eidos branch and their other partners are doing awesome games. Of these games he mentioned, at least 2 are among my favorites for this generation.

Now what I trully hope is that they try to stay in touch with their consumers when they develop the next Final Fantasy. I'm one of the people that really enjoyed XIII but the more I play the game the more I see why there are so many people unhappy with it.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 27, 2013, 02:14:07 PM
Now what I trully hope is that they try to stay in touch with their consumers when they develop the next Final Fantasy.

The SQEX hate machine is not going to stop for anything.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Alisha on May 27, 2013, 05:36:03 PM
the problem is their consumers are divided. some like the psuedo sci fi stuff and other want the ff9 style stuff back. though i think SE needs another guy like yoshi P. to work on console stuff.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 27, 2013, 06:26:49 PM
^Yeah I've thought about that before.

Would be great if some new blood that knows the nuances of the series would get a big role to work on the non-MMO titles, that could bring some new life to the next big Final Fantasy but until that happens we have to keep waiting for E3 (and have hope in Nomura too I guess).
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Kevadu on May 27, 2013, 08:07:01 PM
Square Enix to Increase Focus on Region Specific Games (http://"http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/27/square-enix-to-increase-focus-on-region-specific-games/")

...

Unfortunatley I can't read that as anything besides, "we're going to localize less stuff".
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on May 27, 2013, 09:22:46 PM
Square Enix to Increase Focus on Region Specific Games (http://"http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/27/square-enix-to-increase-focus-on-region-specific-games/")

...

Unfortunatley I can't read that as anything besides, "we're going to localize less stuff".

At least they're not forcing Eidios into making games for only Japan.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Eusis on May 27, 2013, 09:43:24 PM
Square Enix to Increase Focus on Region Specific Games (http://"http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/27/square-enix-to-increase-focus-on-region-specific-games/")

...

Unfortunatley I can't read that as anything besides, "we're going to localize less stuff".

It's a knife that potentially cuts both ways. They may localize less stuff (Bravely Default is NOT reassuring), but they may also stop this attempt at appealing globally with every title and just make what they feel is best and get it localized anyway. Probably depends on if Bravely Default actually does have a large enough base for them to go "ok, maybe we shouldn't be turning our backs on our traditional output."

Or they can at least get into the business of licensing their damn games out, it was understandable not to do that before, but now if they'd really rather be Eidos + FF then something has to give.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on May 27, 2013, 11:22:20 PM
I kinda wanna yell at Squeenix a bit too.

FF spin offs can be an amazing thing... but how many of those were actually good????

None of the Crystal Chronicle games ever pulled in AMAZINGs/10
The Mana series got butchered more and more with every new installment
FF13 was a game about hallways and machine gods; while FF13-2 was a time travel anime with cosplay people
NieR's numerous OSTs [probably] outsold the game (certainly its "musical-legacy" will anyways)
The 3rd Birthday ruined what the first two games built up and gave us the wrong heroine
Kingdom Hearts has become a dried up sponge.
FFXIV became a laughing stock that, literally, had a bomb dropped on it and remade
Type-0 was a major success but stayed in Japan
And the much anticipated Versus has had hype that's cooled off for a while (E3 had better get us excited for something).

Really, I honestly think some of their best reviewed stuff were re-releases from the generation before.

Is it sad that one of few things I really can't wait is a goddamn game I've already played (FFX/-2)??

They can say they're changing their strategy as much as they want, nothing changed the root of the problem and not asking "why aren't their game good"?
Most of their success has, without a doubt, come from Eidos.  Squeenix should be happy as hell to have them.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 27, 2013, 11:51:03 PM
FF13 was a game about hallways and machine gods; while FF13-2 was a time travel anime with cosplay people

Eh, more or less.

The games themselves are based on the Fabula Nova mythology. By default the story of XIII and XIII-2 are just pieces of that mythology.

The only thing that really bothers me about XIII are the novels, all the novels (Final Fantasy XIII Episode Zero -Promise-, Episode i-, Final Fantasy XIII-2 Fragments Before and Fragments After) are canon to the story of the games and only "Episode i" has been officially translated.

"Episode Zero -Promise-" was fan translated before FFXIII was released in the west while Fragments Before and Fragments After have not been translated as far as I know.

The 3rd Birthday ruined what the first two games built up and gave us the wrong heroine

Was that a direct sequel anyway? I don't remember.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Alisha on May 28, 2013, 12:38:44 AM
3rd birthday was literal character assassination. 3rd birthday and other m both need to be retconned
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: insertnamehere on May 28, 2013, 01:11:29 AM
So, a few points I'd like to make:

- He was probably just referring to the fact that they had some embarrassing attempts to reel in fans of "shooters" with Front Mission Evolved, Gun Loco, Mindjack, etc.
- And then the fact that they tried giving Nier global appeal (http://www.siliconera.com/2010/05/20/barbarian-nier-was-born-in-los-angeles/) by making him an adult.
- Nanashi no Game's localizing getting turned down for lack of guns and violence (etc etc) seemed to be a side effect of this mindset.
- Even a major FF (T-0) with a supposed localization couldn't get out of Japan, though one of its creators did want to port it to 3DS iirc.
- Most of the games they localized this generation were entries of their cash cow franchises (FF/KH) and mobile games, everything else (tri-ace stuff, tactics ogre, nothing else really comes to mind) seems like it did okay or below expectations.
- With that in mind how much less could they really localize with FF and KH doing generally better in NA than Japan?
- I think this new president mentioned something about wanting to focus on stuff that makes them money (for now at least?) and big budget games that try to have global appeal but fail to return expected profits are an obvious place to start with that.
- This old article is old but relevant (http://www.destructoid.com/more-detail-from-square-president-no-more-non-mainstream-games-allowed-87774.phtml) and it seems to me like more or less at rock bottom.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 28, 2013, 01:30:53 AM
- And then the fact that they tried giving Nier global appeal (http://www.siliconera.com/2010/05/20/barbarian-nier-was-born-in-los-angeles/) by making him an adult.

That wasn't even a bad decision...

- Even a major FF (T-0) with a supposed localization couldn't get out of Japan, though one of its creators did want to port it to 3DS iirc.

Any plans of making an HD version for console?

"We did think about how fun it would be playing Type-0 on a HD television. In fact we did experiment with it, and it was definitely submersive. But unfortunately, there are no plan as of yet."

If you were to make a continuation of Type-0, what kind of game would it be?

"During the creation of Type-0, if felt that it should have been a content high-end machine. If there is a continuation, it definitely would be for a high-end machine. So part of the world will be carried over, and some not; but not to the point of making the two unrelated, but playable by some one who has not played Type-0."

source (http://type0.haloandwingsstudio.com/tabata/)

3DS version of Type-0 has never been a thing (not yet anyway).

- This old article is old but relevant (http://www.destructoid.com/more-detail-from-square-president-no-more-non-mainstream-games-allowed-87774.phtml) and it seems to me like more or less at rock bottom.

First time I see this. :o
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: insertnamehere on May 28, 2013, 03:52:59 AM
Quote
That wasn't even a bad decision...

I never called it one, but it strikes me something probably wouldn't happen with this new president.

Quote
3DS version of Type-0 has never been a thing (not yet anyway).

Not a thing but actually like expressed interest (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/04/04/after-square-enix-announced-it-what-ever-happened-to-before-crisis-final-fantasy-vii/) in doing it, but rereading it now I just misread it/remembered wrong.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 31, 2013, 09:57:58 AM
Final Fantasy X / X-2 HD and Lightning Returns added to Square Enix's E3 streaming schedule (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/05/final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-remaster-and-lightning-returns-added-to-square-enixs-e3-streaming-schedule/) -- Source: Nova Crystallis

Square Enix to hold 'Future of Final Fantasy' pre-E3 Q&A (http://gematsu.com/2013/06/square-enix-to-hold-future-of-final-fantasy-pre-e3-qa) -- Source: Gematsu

Square Enix E3 Live Stream Schedule:

(http://i39.tinypic.com/2zjjrlx.png)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2d9ao0.png)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/kb6q8w.png)

source (http://square.vo.llnwd.net/o2/e3/SEP_E3_2013_program_ver_0607.pdf)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 08, 2013, 10:54:55 PM
(http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2013/23/1370741814-please-be-excited.png)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Taelus on June 08, 2013, 11:13:23 PM
Future of Final Fantasy QA sounds suspiciously like "here are vague promises but no games."
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Bleaker on June 09, 2013, 10:22:09 AM
Apparently, and don't take my word on this, but both Kingdom Hearts 3 and Final Fantasy XV are going to be at the show.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.410033-Rumour-Kingdom-Hearts-III-at-E3-leaked-pictures

If you look closely you can see the Final Fantasy XV logo strongly resembles Final Fantasy Versus XIII logo. Although I don't know why people think that is kingdom Hearts 3 because I'm not seeing a three there.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Hathen on June 09, 2013, 10:40:37 AM
So am I correct in assuming the only reason they'd change the name of XIIIvs to XV is because their numbered titles sell more copies?

Other than that, why does it even matter.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Lard on June 09, 2013, 10:45:28 AM
Probably just easier to move on from the FF 13 world and make it a separate game. It wasn't well received and it might be better to start fresh.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 09, 2013, 12:01:47 PM
@Bleaker: Some people say that the image is fake.

So am I correct in assuming the only reason they'd change the name of XIIIvs to XV is because their numbered titles sell more copies?

Other than that, why does it even matter.

It matters mostly to the people that has been obsessed over Versus for the last 7 years.

Though, if Versus was in fact renamed to XV then that would mean that the entire project suffered a massive change at one point that made Versus no longer part of the Fabula Nova series like it was originally planned.

And I don't know about you but I rather see XV being something completely new that we haven't seen yet. But we'll see soon if they even show something anyway.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Bleaker on June 09, 2013, 12:15:01 PM
I said don't take my word on it :D. However I'm more likely to believe these leaks after that last Microsoft one had Spartan Assault on it, and the next day that was revealed.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Kevadu on June 09, 2013, 01:57:13 PM
Though, if Versus was in fact renamed to XV then that would mean that the entire project suffered a massive change at one point that made Versus no longer part of the Fabula Nova series like it was originally planned.

No, it really doesn't mean that at all.  Type-0 was also renamed (remember Agito?), but the mythology of the world stayed the same.  Nothing about the game changed.  It's just a name.

Honestly, renaming Versus to FFXV makes more sense at this point.  The connections between the games were always pretty weak, and then consider the fact that XIII got two full-blown sequels.  The average person might see the XIII in the name and think that it was yet another sequel of some sort, when it's not and never was.

That and the fact that Versus XIII was always a stupid name...
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 09, 2013, 03:54:05 PM
^You followed Type-0 closer than me. Did the game didn't suffered any big changes when the project went from cell phone to PSP?
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: unsmashable_pumpkin on June 09, 2013, 04:34:50 PM


That and the fact that Versus XIII was always a stupid name...

Just watch them rename it to FFXVersus or something equally dumb :/ Names have not been a strong suit of Squeenix lately.

They pretty much have to remove FFXIII from the name now. When they were running with the numbered FFXIII-2 naming pattern, I suppose using just a subtitle might differentiate it from the "Lightning saga", but it really doesn't make any sense to keep it now. Do the games even really share any significant mythos that would validate the use of the FFXIII "brand"?
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Kevadu on June 09, 2013, 05:05:12 PM
^You followed Type-0 closer than me. Did the game didn't suffered any big changes when the project went from cell phone to PSP?

From what I've read, the cell phone project barely even existed.  It was still in the conceptualization, pre-production stage when they decided to make the switch.  And that had nothing to do with the name change, that came much later.

Do the games even really share any significant mythos that would validate the use of the FFXIII "brand"?

I can tell you that Type-0 still has fal'Cie, l'Cie, and the like, though their roles aren't exactly the same.  The general mythology (and, uh, crystals I guess...) was the only thing connecting the games from the start.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 09, 2013, 05:45:38 PM
"Fabula Nova Crystallis, which means "new tale of crystal" in Latin, is nevertheless based on various worlds and different characters, but each game will be "ultimately based on and expand upon a common mythos".

The connection between the Fabula Nova Crystallis games could be partly compared to the one that exists between games like Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy III, Final Fantasy IV and Final Fantasy V - different universes but roughly the same crystal mythos. Officially, they have been characterized as "different titles based on variations of the Final Fantasy XIII universe". The figure shown in the Fabula Nova Crystallis: Final Fantasy logo is one of the gods of the mythos, but when asked by Famitsu, Yoshinori Kitase would not reveal which god it is."


Source: Final Fantasy Wiki (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Fabula_Nova_Crystallis:_Final_Fantasy)

From what I've read, the cell phone project barely even existed.  It was still in the conceptualization, pre-production stage when they decided to make the switch.  And that had nothing to do with the name change, that came much later.

Yeah, I remember when you posted that a while ago.

I also found this that I forgot about:

"At the Square Enix 1st Production Department Premiere event on January 18, 2011, the game was retitled Final Fantasy Type-0 because Hajime Tabata did not think it was similar enough to Final Fantasy XIII to warrant the old title. Square Enix had trademarked the title in December 2010, along with Type-1 (壱式, Ichishiki), Type-2 (弐式, Nishiki), and Type-3 (参式, Sanshiki), as they hoped the game would be successful enough to be spun off into its own subseries." -- Final Fantasy Type-0 - Development (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Type-0#Development)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: unsmashable_pumpkin on June 09, 2013, 06:18:37 PM


I can tell you that Type-0 still has fal'Cie, l'Cie, and the like, though their roles aren't exactly the same.  The general mythology (and, uh, crystals I guess...) was the only thing connecting the games from the start.

Do we know if the fal'cie/l'cie is incorporated into the plot of versus as well? I would assume so, but haven't really followed any details (not that there has been much concrete information released recently)
When I think about it, some of the story aspects towards the end of FFXII is actually quite reminiscent of the same kind of storyline.

A lot of the mythos of the Fabula nova crystallis universe did seem interesting. A shame it was never really realized in FFXIII; Type-0 might have been more successful. Part of me is still holding out hope we might see it in English, even an iOS-port would do.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 09, 2013, 07:19:16 PM
Do we know if the fal'cie/l'cie is incorporated into the plot of versus as well?

The Goddess Etro and the Door of Souls are the only known things from the mythos that are being used for the story in Versus, but it wouldn't be strange if they use those terminologies too.

It has been a long time since the last bit of official info though, so who knows if the story was changed all together or not.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 09, 2013, 10:14:34 PM
Knowing Squeenix though, they're going to try to preserve as much prebuild material as possible. So expect Falcie/Lcie nonsense, Etro bullshit, and that picture of Lightning in that art gallery regardless of the game becoming XVersus or not.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 09, 2013, 10:25:21 PM
Knowing Squeenix though, they're going to try to preserve as much prebuild material as possible. So expect Falcie/Lcie nonsense, Etro bullshit, and that picture of Lightning in that art gallery regardless of the game becoming XVersus or not.

Aeo, your cold hearted truths make me happy
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 09, 2013, 11:17:36 PM
If Versus "becomes" XV then it wouldn't make any sense that it still uses stuff from the FNC mythology. Because a brand new FF from the main series is, you know, something brand new that doesn't have any direct correlation to past games.

But, giving Aeolus some benefit is better not to assume anything with SQEX until is official. So yeah. 50/50.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klutz64 on June 10, 2013, 12:06:10 AM
I thought a big part of the purpose of FNC was to have a more coherent connection between FF titles. Naturally FFXIV already kind of broke that, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the mythology from XIII carried on through the rest of the franchise.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Kevadu on June 10, 2013, 12:11:10 AM
"The connection between the Fabula Nova Crystallis games could be partly compared to the one that exists between games like Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy III, Final Fantasy IV and Final Fantasy V - different universes but roughly the same crystal mythos."

If Versus "becomes" XV then it wouldn't make any sense that it still uses stuff from the FNC mythology. Because a brand new FF from the main series is, you know, something brand new that doesn't have any direct correlation to past games.

...
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 10, 2013, 12:45:14 AM
...

If SQEX makes Versus be XV while still having the mythos nonsense that would mean that the whole point of the FNC series was to be expanded throughout the main series over time and not be contained to the series of "XIII" games and its extensions (novels, mangas, etc) that were announced back then (which was the original plan as far as I know).

Also, I'm tired of your shit SQEX. ;_;
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Kevadu on June 10, 2013, 12:53:30 AM
I doubt even S-E knows what they're doing with the FNC series.  They wanted to make three games with a common mythos, fine, but one of them was already renamed (yet retained the mythos) and the other got a bunch of previously unplanned sequels.  It's a mess.

Anyway, my point is that the mythos has nothing to do with the number 13.  S-E can call Versus whatever they want.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 10, 2013, 09:05:10 AM
I doubt even S-E knows what they're doing with the FNC series.  They wanted to make three games with a common mythos, fine, but one of them was already renamed (yet retained the mythos) and the other got a bunch of previously unplanned sequels.  It's a mess.

Anyway, my point is that the mythos has nothing to do with the number 13.  S-E can call Versus whatever they want.

And this is precisely why Squeenix should never be trusted with Compilations.

Besides, Squeenix proved how loathed they can be to discard pre-rendered cutscenes when they inserted that goofy ass scene at the end of the Casino Night Zone in FFXIII-1 let alone even having "Set Color Code to Blackwatch Plaid!" Jhil Naboopalin (or whatever) around given that I just described the sum total of her contributions to the events of the game in this very sentence before getting disposed of like a Red Shirt on Star Trek. And then there's Fang's gender getting stuck in Female because somebody did up a pre-rendered cutscene before Squeenix realized they could ignore Lightning's agency in the story to turn Fang/Vanille into the stealth main couple ala Vaan and Penelo in FFXII (and this is also the reason why there are cutscenes on Namek Australia Pulse).

Type-0 got away with the conversion because there was hardly anything there to begin with (and the cellphone idea was ludicrously unrealistic to begin with).

But despite all the jokes to the contrary, there have been pre-rendered stuff put on the table over the years (including ties to FFXIII-1). Its just a matter of how awkwardly they're going to shoehorn those scenes into the final game, XVersus or not.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 10, 2013, 10:32:16 AM
I doubt even S-E knows what they're doing with the FNC series.  They wanted to make three games with a common mythos, fine, but one of them was already renamed (yet retained the mythos) and the other got a bunch of previously unplanned sequels.  It's a mess.

Is hardly a mess considering the whole deal that happened with XIV.

Anyway, my point is that the mythos has nothing to do with the number 13.  S-E can call Versus whatever they want.

The FNC games still haven't been expanded into to the main series yet (which is a good thing if you ask me). But yeah it can happen even though SQEX has always showed the contrary for years now.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 10, 2013, 06:03:48 PM
I doubt even S-E knows what they're doing with the FNC series.  They wanted to make three games with a common mythos, fine, but one of them was already renamed (yet retained the mythos) and the other got a bunch of previously unplanned sequels.  It's a mess.

Is hardly a mess considering the whole deal that happened with XIV.


I think that's the first time game developers solved a problem with a game of theirs by LITERALLY* dropping a bomb on it and starting all over[-ish].

*(http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/parksandrecreation-chris-traeger-literally.jpg)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Raziel on June 10, 2013, 10:18:42 PM
Welll...
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: (Tunnels) on June 10, 2013, 10:23:22 PM
I loved that 15 trailer. I don't care if it was once V13; it totally blew away all my cynicism.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Kevadu on June 10, 2013, 10:28:39 PM
Yeah, I have to frankly admit that traily was quite impressive.  I guess they've actually been doing something all these years.

And as I said in this thread already, renaming it to XV just makes so much more sense.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 10, 2013, 10:34:29 PM
:O
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 10, 2013, 10:35:44 PM
@Kevadu: Yes.

And with this announcement FNC is part of the main series now.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Parn on June 10, 2013, 10:40:36 PM
Not going to lie.  I'm sold.  That looked really awesome, even with all the out of context dialogue that just wouldn't stop.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 10, 2013, 10:48:02 PM
Oooooh, so THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE WORKING ON ALL THIS TIME. :D

Definitely impressive, and definitely doesn't look PS3 (then again I watched in shit-quality, but even that looked amazing)

Looks fantastic, I'm glad that WITH all the hold out they really delivered.  And judging by appearances, I guess it does look like something that should stand on its own (daresay, not marred by the "13" series given its length and somewhat...luke-cool reception).
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 10, 2013, 10:57:07 PM
And judging by appearances, I guess it does look like something that should stand on its own (daresay, not marred by the "13" series given its length and somewhat...luke-cool reception).

Versu- I mean, XV was never supposed to be directly related to the XIII series (just like Type-0).
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 10, 2013, 11:00:57 PM
And judging by appearances, I guess it does look like something that should stand on its own (daresay, not marred by the "13" series given its length and somewhat...luke-cool reception).

Versu- I mean, XV was never supposed to be directly related to the XIII series (just like Type-0).

Mythology is close enough though, at least with respect to certain plot elements.
...Irrelevant anyways, the trailer was damn fine.

We also seem to be even more steps away from that "traditional" FF combat.  I'm happy about it, but I'm wondering how purists feels (or if they even give a tit)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aurian on June 10, 2013, 11:14:17 PM
Anyone have a link to just this trailer?
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 10, 2013, 11:21:34 PM
@Dice: Those "purists" have been crying about FF for over a decade now. It doesn't seem that anything is enough for them.

Anyone have a link to just this trailer?

FINAL FANTASY XV E3 2013 Trailer - E3 2013 Sony Conference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3xKbPooKAo)

There.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Akanbe- on June 10, 2013, 11:44:14 PM
I loved that 15 trailer. I don't care if it was once V13; it totally blew away all my cynicism.

Indeed.  I know it's not vaporware or cancelled and I enjoy poking fun at it, but at the end of the day I still do want to play it.  I don't care about the name and the trailer looked great.  Not sure what I was expecting but trailer turned out great.  Hope there's something more substantial at TGS =\
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Annubis on June 10, 2013, 11:50:56 PM
You guys think they actually scrapped most of VS13 and rebuilt it from nearly scratch?
I get the impression VS13 was really conservative and boring and that's why it was going nowhere. This now seems like it's pushing the FF envelop and I really like what I see.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: pseudonym on June 10, 2013, 11:55:37 PM
Trailer looked good. Gameplay looks different and interesting. Story seems intriguing. I see potential.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 10, 2013, 11:58:31 PM
You guys think they actually scrapped most of VS13 and rebuilt it from nearly scratch?

They messed around with the project for a long time but for what I've read over the years Nomura always wanted to make Versus something special.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Bleaker on June 11, 2013, 12:01:49 AM
The gameplay looks much improved from the original trailer. Anyone else getting any sort of Romeo and Juliet vibe from the story so far?
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 11, 2013, 12:05:32 AM
FINAL FANTASY XV / Setting (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Versus_XIII#Setting) -- Source: Final Fantasy Wiki
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Agent D. on June 11, 2013, 12:13:03 AM
All I wanted to do was hate you SE, you have been making it so easy. FFXIII sequels no one wants, FFXIV being a suckfest, FFXI expansion, no VI remake.....so many reasons to hate you.


Then you do this. Goddamnit.....day 1 purchase for me.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 11, 2013, 12:16:25 AM
FFXIII sequels no one wants

Hey now. That's a lie.

If you don't like it is one thing, but there is people out there that enjoys the XIII series (and I know that I'm part of "the problem").

FFXI expansion

What was bad about this?

(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/efb50fe2.gif)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Agent D. on June 11, 2013, 12:20:56 AM
Just stuff that pissed me off. I elaborated back in the XI topic why.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 11, 2013, 12:22:46 AM
I wouldn't say it's a sequel no one wants (especially since 13-2 ended in a cliffhanger), but I'm certainly not anticipating it as much as I did 13 when it was announced or, especially now, overshadowed the FF15 KH3 reveal.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: MeshGearFox on June 11, 2013, 12:32:35 AM
OH SHIT SQUARE LEARNED HOW MATH WORKS.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Jotacon on June 11, 2013, 12:44:11 AM
OH SHIT SQUARE LEARNED HOW MATH WORKS.
For now. Never underestimate the power of the numbered sequel. It'll be 10 years, but we'll get FFXV-II

But no joke, that looked so good. My favourite game of the whole conference (surprisingly beating MGSV). I kind of wish everything wasn't so shaky, it was a little bothersome.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Eusis on June 11, 2013, 01:12:24 AM
OH SHIT SQUARE LEARNED HOW MATH WORKS.

To be fair no one else knows how to count as high as they do. And in correct sequence UNLIKE MICROSOFT.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Jotacon on June 11, 2013, 01:21:44 AM
1, 360, One.
Yeah that's f-ed up. Good thing they started at the beginning so they can fix things from now on. SQEX just rereleased the FF1-4 hoping nobody would notice their screw ups.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Sagacious-T on June 11, 2013, 03:10:29 AM
I hope ff15 doesn't suck
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 11, 2013, 03:23:24 AM
I hope ff15 doesn't suck

Even if they do an amazing game fans are going to search for every reason possible to attack SQEX. At this point that might never change, but I could be wrong. I hope I'm wrong.

Then again, FF is not everybody's cup of tea and everyone has their own expectations and ideas of what FF is or should be about.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Alisha on June 11, 2013, 04:07:27 AM
i want it to fail sorta because i HATE the versus fans.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 11, 2013, 04:16:39 AM
^I hate Versu- fuck, XV fans for how annoying they can be too.

But I want this to be good you know.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Lard on June 11, 2013, 05:32:28 AM
I hope ff15 doesn't suck

My hope as well.

I will pick up Kingdom Hearts HD and check it out since I never played the series. Am I in for something good or turrible?
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Cyril on June 11, 2013, 06:44:17 AM
Do you like Disney?

If so, you'll probably like it.  

If you don't like Disney, well, it's an interesting ARPG but I'm not sure how much you'll get out of it.  I really enjoy its vertical components and its emphasis on jumping and gliding.   You even get the ability to fly, later.  It also has some neat platforming that, unfortunately, was removed from the later titles.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 11, 2013, 06:46:38 AM
Just don't go into expecting to understand anything about the plot.

Game of Thrones is more straight forward than KH (or at least less pants on head retarded).
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Cyril on June 11, 2013, 06:52:02 AM
Nah, the first Kingdom Hearts isn't too bad.  I'd say it's pretty straightforward.  It's everything after that. Especially DDD.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: kofvscapcom on June 11, 2013, 08:13:15 AM
I remember some of the platforming inKH1 being an exercise in frustration, but I played that game way long ago. 15 looking like adult KH without clown shoes.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Hathen on June 11, 2013, 09:31:50 AM
Wow, that was actually a really good trailer. Definitely interested. Don't disappoint, SE.

What was bad about this?

I've been playing it and I can tell you it's been a really mediocre expansion thus far.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klutz64 on June 11, 2013, 10:50:14 AM
At least they didn't take a lesson from other franchises and just rename it "Final Fantasy."

Seriously. I'm excited about Star Wars: Battlefront, but is it really so hard to just slap a number on that?
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Farron on June 11, 2013, 01:06:51 PM
I still haven't seen their presentation but I'm already so glad they announced not only new games but actually the ones people were asking for.

I'm not much into Kingdom Hearts but I loved Birth By Sleep as opposed to KH1 which I didn't like. KH1 had for me at the time a mix of nice things but some very bad choices so in the end I dropped it and never looked back.
With some fine tuning of the controls, I'm pretty sure I'll leave my little grudge behind it and try KH3.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 11, 2013, 01:32:43 PM
At least they didn't take a lesson from other franchises and just rename it "Final Fantasy."

Why should they when the idea behind every new FF from the main series is essentially a reboot anyway?
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Sagacious-T on June 11, 2013, 01:50:26 PM
I hope ff15 doesn't suck

Even if they do an amazing game fans are going to search for every reason possible to attack SQEX. At this point that might never change, but I could be wrong. I hope I'm wrong.

Then again, FF is not everybody's cup of tea and everyone has their own expectations and ideas of what FF is or should be about.

People criticize SE's games because there are legitimate reasons to do so.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 11, 2013, 01:55:00 PM
People criticize SE's games because there are legitimate reasons to do so.

I've read and heard all kinds of complaints for years now, no need to tell me about that.

Edit: Final Fantasy XV (http://www.jp.square-enix.com/ff15/) and Kingdom Hearts III (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/kingdom/kh3/) are going to be released on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Legaia on June 11, 2013, 02:23:20 PM
Kingdom Hearts 3 being revealed just solidified my decision to purchase PS4 when it releases - well that and all the other advantages it has over Xbone - but I'm glad KH3 is confirmed. I thought they would never get it done.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klutz64 on June 11, 2013, 02:28:40 PM
Key word there is "Get it done"

This is, after all, Square Enix showing us a trailer for a game that is simply "In Development." They tend to have a habit lately of debuting titles several years before we actually see a release date.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Legaia on June 11, 2013, 02:33:43 PM
Key word there is "Get it done"

This is, after all, Square Enix showing us a trailer for a game that is simply "In Development." They tend to have a habit lately of debuting titles several years before we actually see a release date.


True. But I'm just happy they've confirmed to be working on it.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 11, 2013, 03:15:59 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/11/final-fantasy-xv-questions-answered-some-of-them-at-least/

You know what XVersus needed? Sequels.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Agent D. on June 11, 2013, 03:23:48 PM
Not sure why they'd release KH3 on xbone. No other kingdom hearts title has ever been on a microsoft console, seems silly given the very large following it has. Also, wasn't XVersus originally a sony exclusive?
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klutz64 on June 11, 2013, 03:27:14 PM
So the spinoff Final Fantasy became a stand-alone Final Fantasy that will most likely spawn more sequels and spin-offs. My guess is one of those spin-offs will become Final Fantasy XVII and so-on...
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 11, 2013, 03:28:13 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/11/final-fantasy-xv-questions-answered-some-of-them-at-least/

You know what XVersus needed? Sequels.

"A World of the VERSUS Epic"

3:34min in the official trailer.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Eusis on June 11, 2013, 03:28:42 PM
Not sure why they'd release KH3 on xbone. No other kingdom hearts title has ever been on a microsoft console, seems silly given the very large following it has. Also, wasn't XVersus originally a sony exclusive?

Both the systems have similar enough hardware that it's probably trivial to keep both in mind (and given the framerate in that XV trailer accommodating X1 then smoothing out on PS4 is probably ideal), and VersusXIII was either going to be built specifically around the PS3's architecture or at least the storage capacity of blu-ray, neither of which are concerns here.

It's pretty much "why not?" given presumed ease of porting. An exclusive would be more valuable a little later anyway, and for all we know maybe Microsoft will screw it up enough that the X1 simply isn't worth keeping in mind.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Kevadu on June 11, 2013, 03:50:28 PM
Yeah, porting between the two systems should be pretty much trivial this gen.  They are essentially the same architecture.  My only concern is that it means that multiplatform games won't look as good as they could on the PS4 (which has more GPU power) since they still have to be optimized for the Xbone.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Eusis on June 11, 2013, 03:55:58 PM
Yeah, porting between the two systems should be pretty much trivial this gen.  They are essentially the same architecture.  My only concern is that it means that multiplatform games won't look as good as they could on the PS4 (which has more GPU power) since they still have to be optimized for the Xbone.

Yeah, it's kind of the same as built for consoles then ported to PCs versus built for PCs period. Either you get a smoother running version (pending BS Microsoft policies anyway, though at worst I'd see the PS4 running at 30/60 FPS locked whereas the X1 version TRIES to but falters to some degree) or you get a version with a few more bells and whistles even if it's not completely different looking. Still, I imagine for anyone more tech obsessed it's another reason to want to see the X1 do poorly, in which case fewer publishers will see it as worthwhile to accommodate, or will get it running there but won't care about it being notably inferior.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 11, 2013, 04:04:17 PM
...huh.

I'm seeing people bitching about the ending of XIII-2 and XV getting sequels now. *sigh* You people I swear. :|

Anyways, I'm pleased that XV is not changing its action-oriented nature.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 11, 2013, 04:09:34 PM
...huh.

I'm seeing people bitching about the ending of XIII-2 and XV getting sequels now. *sigh* You people I swear. :|

Anyways, I'm pleased that XV is not changing its action-oriented nature.

Nor should it. 

I want to apologize to traditional turn-based fans, but it's too dated for me to feel the same love for it (at least, not without something to spice it up like, maybe, the way SMT games play it or Radiant Historia did).

What's there to bitch about 13-2 ending??  It's been ended for over a year....
(I'm not even touching sequel discussion for XV -- that's just nuts)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Eusis on June 11, 2013, 04:16:01 PM
We're going to have reasons to criticize anyway because for me taking forever on vsXIII (to the point of morphing into a next-gen FFXV!) and KHIII were just jokes, not my REAL problems. My real problems are how they're focusing more and more on a few tentpole series, sporadically released ones at that, while doing relatively little outside of that like they used to in the SNES/PS1 days or even PS2 and DS. With XIV more or less wrapped up maybe this will start to shift especially with the 3DS taking off and to a lesser extent an intent to deliver meatier experiences to mobile.

And anyways specifically on continuing FFXV and the combat system: they said they'd still go with turn based (or "command based") in the future, and for all we know FFXV would've been had vsXIII not taken that number for itself, and if FFXV has a compelling, big enough world to continue developing with new games then they can bring it on, hell I make jokes about "XIII spawn" but XIII-2 was fun and Lightning Returns looks to be enjoyable so I don't REALLY care so long as the product's compelling and that's not ALL they make (... huh, that was something of an issue with XIII actually, but that's more XIV's fault.)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klyde Chroma on June 11, 2013, 04:18:58 PM
All I have to say about all the news today is that, IMO, not having a "XIII" in the title of versus is quite possibly the smartest business move Square Enix has made. By changing to "XV" I predict exponentially better sales than the title could have fostered with a "XIII" regardless of how awesome it in fact proved to be. Silly as that may be......
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 11, 2013, 04:32:46 PM
@Eusis: Well, one of the reasons why FNC was expanded and renamed was because of all the mess with XIV and the dramatic reaction fans had over XIII. That and the fact that it was kinda pointless in retrospective making those three games they announced back in 2006 and not expanding their universes and stories over time when in interviews they said that they could make 2 or 3 more games with what they were producing.

So yeah. If they feel confident about what they are doing and are doing their own thing while keeping in mind what people say about them then I don't see much of a problem with that personally.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 11, 2013, 04:45:04 PM
I just wonder if they're keeping all the original mythology from FF13.  I know there's that painting of Etro from one of the early scenes...

I remember that early cutscene they showed...I wonder if it was all pitched or redone to compensate for PS4.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klutz64 on June 11, 2013, 04:46:33 PM
Speaking of early information, I hope they're still able to implement the open-world airship navigation they were talking about in some of the early interviews about Versus XIII.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Sagacious-T on June 11, 2013, 04:56:18 PM
I hate to sound like a dumbass but is FFXV in the same world as FFXIII? Or are there just thematic similarities?
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 11, 2013, 05:10:11 PM
I hate to sound like a dumbass but is FFXV in the same world as FFXIII? Or are there just thematic similarities?

XIII is the only one that has a direct connection with the story of the mythos while Type-0 only uses the Deities and Terminologies of that mythos in the story with their own purposes for that universe/story.

It is not known how direct the connection of XV will be to the mythos but I doubt it takes place in the same universe that XIII did.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 11, 2013, 05:13:41 PM
Huh, so I suppose it's "as connected" as FFTactics is to FF12.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 11, 2013, 06:13:52 PM
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(http://i41.tinypic.com/e5rc3m.png)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 11, 2013, 06:17:32 PM
Noctis seems to go between red and blue eyes.  Looks like Stella got more of a rounded chin and more "adorably featured" since last time.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Alisha on June 11, 2013, 06:47:26 PM
im seeing some media that makes it appear the party in ffxv is a sausage fest. as in all sausage and no taco. i'll have to keep an eye on that in the coming months.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 11, 2013, 06:51:20 PM
"Following its announcement for PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, Square Enix has released a brand new gameplay trailer for Final Fantasy XV at E3.

The in-game footage was unveiled earlier today at Square Enix's "Future of Final Fantasy" media event and showcases the first real-time combat system in the series."


FINAL FANTASY XV Battle Gameplay - First Look / E3 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBilT83Uq4A)

Source(s): Gematsu (http://gematsu.com/2013/06/final-fantasy-xv-e3-battle-gameplay-trailer) (news), SQEXMembersNA (video)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 11, 2013, 07:37:22 PM
im seeing some media that makes it appear the party in ffxv is a sausage fest. as in all sausage and no taco. i'll have to keep an eye on that in the coming months.

Hopefully they make the few tacos worth it then. :)

"Following its announcement for PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, Square Enix has released a brand new gameplay trailer for Final Fantasy XV at E3.

The in-game footage was unveiled earlier today at Square Enix's "Future of Final Fantasy" media event and showcases the first real-time combat system in the series."


FINAL FANTASY XV Battle Gameplay - First Look / E3 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBilT83Uq4A)

Source(s): Gematsu (http://gematsu.com/2013/06/final-fantasy-xv-e3-battle-gameplay-trailer) (news), SQEXMembersNA (video)

*drool*
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klutz64 on June 11, 2013, 08:47:58 PM
Wasn't really feeling the combat until the fight with the Iron Giant. The rest was just like, "I get it, he has teleporty super powers." I don't know, I guess I was looking for a more straightforward action RPG and not something with a single gimmick, like Crystal Bearers.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 11, 2013, 08:50:12 PM
Wasn't really feeling the combat until the fight with the Iron Giant. The rest was just like, "I get it, he has teleporty super powers." I don't know, I guess I was looking for a more straightforward action RPG and not something with a single gimmick, like Crystal Bearers.

If this plays even REMOTELY like Birth by Sleep did (with an FF-flair?) then I'll be happy as a clam.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 11, 2013, 08:55:42 PM
Just read the news here that DX:HR Director's Cut doesn't appear that will be available as DLC. Disappointing.

@Klutz64: Is so easy to be jaded.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klutz64 on June 11, 2013, 09:08:14 PM
I don't think of myself as jaded, more as underwhelmed after four years of hype over the combat in Versus XIII.

Once I saw that fight with the Iron Giant, between the blocking of the Giant's attacks and using his own sword against him, I was back to hyped.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Cyril on June 11, 2013, 09:24:31 PM
It was the giant Leviathan that did it for me. 
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Kevadu on June 11, 2013, 09:26:32 PM
Wasn't really feeling the combat until the fight with the Iron Giant. The rest was just like, "I get it, he has teleporty super powers." I don't know, I guess I was looking for a more straightforward action RPG and not something with a single gimmick, like Crystal Bearers.

He's got a lot more gimmicks than just the teleporting thing (which seems short-range only).  At various points he has some sort of shield thing going on, then there's all the flying by sticking his sword into things (looks to me like you can point it at a distant object and it will just magically fly over there and take you with it, embedding in the wall/celing/whatever and leaving you hanging from it), some more traditional spell-like explosions, and then of course all the sword-switching.  Seems like he has a bunch of different swords (where does he keep them all...) with different abilities that he can call out when he needs them.  Sort of remind me of Advent Children, actually...except it's a game.  That's playable.  Which automatically makes it far more interesting than Advent Children...

I don't think of myself as jaded, more as underwhelmed after four years of hype over the combat in Versus XIII.

There was hype over the combat?  We never even saw the combat before...
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Cyril on June 11, 2013, 09:29:06 PM
I imagine his teleporting will be, at most, like Zone of the Enders 2.

I'm certainly not complaining if it is, though they may have to balance the game around it.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 11, 2013, 09:32:09 PM
It was the giant Leviathan that did it for me. 

You mean "SEXY BEAST"

..yeah, it looked fiiine
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 11, 2013, 10:26:25 PM
Nomura talks Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy XV (http://gematsu.com/2013/06/nomura-talks-kingdom-hearts-and-final-fantasy-xv) -- Source: Gematsu

You can watch the interview here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPogSTwUREM#t=2h29m42s) if you want.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Fadedsun on June 11, 2013, 10:40:30 PM
After not paying attention to anything about Versus well, ever, I can say I was pleasantly surprised and now incredibly hyped. It looked gorgeous and combat looks fun and fast paced.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Alisha on June 11, 2013, 10:51:33 PM
now its looking like noctis is the only playable char.... yeah no
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Fadedsun on June 11, 2013, 11:00:51 PM
now its looking like noctis is the only playable char.... yeah no

You're basing this off of a few minutes of trailer footage? I haven't seen any information suggesting he is the only playable character.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 11, 2013, 11:46:25 PM
The character designers for FFXV are Tetsuya Nomura and Roberto Ferrari according to the official Japanese site.

now its looking like noctis is the only playable char.... yeah no

You're basing this off of a few minutes of trailer footage? I haven't seen any information suggesting he is the only playable character.

It didn't help that Nomura was not very clear with his answer.

Does the game focus mainly on Noctis, or on the other characters in the party, as well?

"In Final Fantasy games, party is necessary, I think. So how we use party members is a core part of Final Fantasy games. How to take turns and how to act is very important. Noct can battle himself, but in the trailer, you can tell he did battle with other characters, as well. So I think there will be a lot of co-operation within the team, but in a different form from previous Final Fantasy games. In the trailer, you probably saw that three players were co-operating with each other to fight with that giant, so there was some drama in it. I don't want to make it into a systematic team play, but that it has some story to it. We are always aware that party battle is necessary in the Final Fantasy series."

The whole co-operative aspect in how the team operates in a way that is not systematic is the most important part here. That can means a lot of different things, but... I don't know I'm kinda lost with how vague he was answering the question. :|
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Kevadu on June 12, 2013, 12:08:15 AM
The problem is they didn't ask Nomura the right question.  You're wondering if other characters are playable, but what Nomura was asked was more like what the role of other characters was.  I guess part of this you can can blame on the translator, but part of it was that the interviewer's question wasn't terribly clear to start with.  Nomura's answer was reasonable given the question he got, it really wasn't very clear.

(Doesn't help that the translator was clearly a native Japanese speaker but her English wasn't very good...)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 12, 2013, 12:15:29 AM
I will be disappoint if I can't choose which member of my roving J-Pop Boy Band I want to play as.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Jotacon on June 12, 2013, 03:19:37 AM
I am very excited, but now that I've seen it in action I want to hear all about the boring stuff. I wanna see menus, I wanna see stats, equipment and leveling up. SQEX can do engaging action RPG combat since I liked Birth by Sleep and Crisis Core a lot and the abilities look interesting so now I wanna see the RPG part. I loved the detail of the little sword slider beside the action menu, it seems to just show what sword you have equipped, but it just looks so sleek. I know I have to wait for the information I want so I'm not going to get hung-up on stats, menus or party-members any time soon.
It was the giant Leviathan that did it for me. 
Oh, god yeah. That thing and Noctis in the water... it was like... WOOSH!
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 12, 2013, 01:03:55 PM
Final Fantasy XV - Main characters and Japanese voice cast revealed (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=62968066&postcount=1) -- NeoGAF
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 12, 2013, 01:11:14 PM
Final Fantasy XV - Main characters and Japanese voice cast revealed (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=62968066&postcount=1) -- NeoGAF

I want Cor Leonis.....mmmmmmm.....
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Sagacious-T on June 12, 2013, 03:20:10 PM
Haha these are the most unintentionally hilarious names.

e: Good god this game is gorgeous. I'll play it just for the visual thrill ride.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Hathen on June 12, 2013, 03:39:14 PM
Prompto looks like a douche.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 12, 2013, 05:00:10 PM
Haha these are the most unintentionally hilarious names.


You must be new to japanese games.


Prompto looks like a douche.

He looks like a teenage Asian version of Dennis the Menace.
...not a good thing, of course.  That hair of his is a sin on its own right.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Kevadu on June 12, 2013, 05:09:19 PM
Prompto looks like a douche.

He looks like a teenage Asian version of Dennis the Menace.
...not a good thing, of course.  That hair of his is a sin on its own right.

They did a really good job of recreating what it looks like when an obviously asian person dyes their hair an extremely fake blond color.

The question is why...
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 12, 2013, 05:22:16 PM
Haha these are the most unintentionally hilarious names.


You must be new to japanese games media.

Fixed.

Seriously, Gundam alone is hilarious inept at coming up with names with such gems as Bring Stabbity and Full Frontal (among many others).


Prompto looks like a douche.

He looks like a teenage Asian version of Dennis the Menace.
...not a good thing, of course.  That hair of his is a sin on its own right.

They did a really good job of recreating what it looks like when an obviously asian person dyes their hair an extremely fake blond color.

The question is why...

I think you answered your own question.

(Or to put it bluntly, its a trope used in Japanese media to indicate a rebellious teenager or a foreigner, depending on how intentionally inept the dye job is. In this case, its most definitely the former.)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 12, 2013, 06:19:44 PM
Nomura details Final Fantasy XV and Kingdom Hearts III in Famitsu (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/06/nomura-details-final-fantasy-xv-and-kingdom-hearts-in-famitsu/) -- Source: Nova Crystallis (via: NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=63026166&postcount=1))
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: (Tunnels) on June 12, 2013, 09:14:37 PM
Final Fantasy XV - Main characters and Japanese voice cast revealed (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=62968066&postcount=1) -- NeoGAF

I want Cor Leonis.....mmmmmmm.....

Agreed.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: kofvscapcom on June 12, 2013, 09:15:37 PM
Look guys, the most important question about KH 3 hasn't been asked yet.

Are we going to
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KLrlUyzV1Bg/UG3JCo38rmI/AAAAAAAABHo/TFZxsl4XpyY/s1600/VW___Hades_by_DarkAngelX.jpg)
FEEL THE HEAT?
(seriously though, coliseum please)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 12, 2013, 10:28:04 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/917bfeb889ac686701c698d8f0ee4701/tumblr_mo94968lZ61r0yf4ko1_1280.jpg)

"We all know what Nomura was really thinking during E3.
Seriously he looked pretty grumpy."


source (http://neophoton.tumblr.com/post/52744784606/we-all-know-what-nomura-was-really-thinking-during)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Lard on June 13, 2013, 06:32:27 AM
So this tweet (Don't know how to link it) is interesting.

Imran Khan ‏@imranzomg 11 Jun

Sounds like Nintendo had to choose between Bravely Default and DQ7 if what I'm hearing is right.


Why would they? Why wouldn't they bring both?

That said, if that's the case they made the right choice. I'd rather have a new RPG than a remake.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Cyril on June 13, 2013, 07:11:19 AM
Oh God, that's a horrible decision.  I honestly don't think I could choose one or the other (which is probably why I'm not in a position of authority at Nintendo).  I'd probably pick DQVII if I had to only choose one, because it's almost guaranteed to be the bigger game that I'd spend more time with, even though I've already played the original a few times.

But still. Wow. 
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 13, 2013, 09:23:01 AM
And this is why I'm so pissed that Squeenix doesn't bother localizing their own games anymore. :argh:

Ah well, at least I don't have to give Squeenix even more of my money than I haft to (even if the original version is virtually unplayable by today's standards).
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Akanbe- on June 13, 2013, 04:29:37 PM
Just out curiosity.... am I the only person here who just realized FF15 is PS4/Xbone only?  I was surprised the videos looked that good visually, but I thought that was because they said they developed it first on the PC then they would make it work for consoles.  That's all fine with me, it was just surprising news.  Kinda makes me more excited for it truthfully.

*puts on dunce cap*
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 13, 2013, 04:37:26 PM
Just out curiosity.... am I the only person here who just realized FF15 is PS4/Xbone only?  I was surprised the videos looked that good visually, but I thought that was because they said they developed it first on the PC then they would make it work for consoles.  That's all fine with me, it was just surprising news.  Kinda makes me more excited for it truthfully.

*puts on dunce cap*

I was like (and with how brilliant FF13 looked in general), "Oh yeah, this can be PS3".  But then the enemies got bigger, the settings more detailed, and the water effects + sky leviathan/dragon thing and I doubted and knew it was PS4/XBone*.

Also, Dragon Quest is awful, I hope for Brave Default.... according to siliconera though, that was in the bag... but this news makes the idea more dubious though.

*anyone else say "X-Bone?"

Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 13, 2013, 07:08:40 PM
from Gematsu:

Final Fantasy XV the first part of a larger epic (http://gematsu.com/2013/06/final-fantasy-xv-first-part-larger-epic)

Kingdom Hearts III announced "a little early" (http://gematsu.com/2013/06/kingdom-hearts-iii-announced-a-little-early)

To further make sure more fans get the message; XV is its own thing but it borrows stuff from the mythos just like Type-0.

XIII, Type-0 and XV are not directly connected by their narrative but they are vaguely related with each other by the FNC mythos, and this mythos only has a direct connection with story of XIII.

Hope that's easy enough to understand...

About KH III development: "The game is being produced on the Luminous engine with over-specifications (likely on PC), and is being ported to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. It will use a special "Kingdom Shader" to give Sora and company visuals adjusted differently to each world's motif."
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 13, 2013, 07:23:50 PM
1) If they're putting THAT much developmental resources into FFXV, then I can see them making a few games in the series (like they did with 13) to just save on the budget....  Not to judge things so, so early, but the game looks great so far (fucking better with 6+ years development!!!), and if it plays great, then I have no problem with this.

2) Yeah, something about the KH3 trailer seemed.....very preliminary?  It just looked a bit off, almost you could tell, even from just that snippet, it was in early, early development and probably (daresay) rushed to be shown off in time for E3.  It still looked good, but sort of incomplete (the lighting, for one, looked awful).  I'm curious what they mean about capturing the "essences" of the Disney world.  If they just mean aesthetically or with some crafty filter or whatever.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klutz64 on June 13, 2013, 10:17:20 PM

About KH III development: "The game is being produced on the Luminous engine with over-specifications (likely on PC), and is being ported to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. It will use a special "Kingdom Shader" to give Sora and company visuals adjusted differently to each world's motif."

Oh dear lord now I kind of want them to NOT include PotC or Star Wars. Awlward high fidelity Sora anyone?
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 14, 2013, 12:05:46 AM
Pirates already happened though, and they turned out ok.  The Tron crew looked pretty tight too.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Lard on June 14, 2013, 12:13:53 AM
Also, Dragon Quest is awful

So are Tales games but I don't harp on about their awfulness every time they're mentioned.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yoda on June 14, 2013, 12:15:18 AM
Even though I've lambasted Noctis for looking the fool XV looks pretty amazing...

Though my beef with the newer FFs is all the flashy shit going on around the characters. Seems a bit distracting. So many sparklies and flashies.


Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 14, 2013, 12:26:31 AM
Also, Dragon Quest is awful

So are Tales games but I don't harp on about their awfulness every time they're mentioned.

Dragon Quest (main series) is more appealing to me than the Tales series. I don't particularly care for one or the other but I tend to appreciate Dragon Quest way more than any of the Tales games.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 14, 2013, 12:46:35 AM
Also, Dragon Quest is awful

So are Tales games but I don't harp on about their awfulness every time they're mentioned.

Dragon Quest (main series) is more appealing to me than the Tales series. I don't particularly care for one or the other but I tend to appreciate Dragon Quest way more than any of the Tales games.

Aw boo.  I was just having some fun.  My vocal tone when i was typing that was all uplifiting and in good humor.

I certainly can't wrap my head around a comment like that nonetheless.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klutz64 on June 14, 2013, 10:39:02 AM
Pirates already happened though, and they turned out ok.  The Tron crew looked pretty tight too.

Yeah, but that was before the "Kingdom Shader" and rather than looking awkward for matching the high fidelity, it was the contrast that made it awkward.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 14, 2013, 04:00:28 PM
Even though I've lambasted Noctis for looking the fool XV looks pretty amazing...

Though my beef with the newer FFs is all the flashy shit going on around the characters. Seems a bit distracting. So many sparklies and flashies.




To be fair though, this has been an issue for the series since VII, if not before that. First, it was stuff like Summons taking anywhere from the better part of a minute to resolve to more than 5 minutes, then it was excessive camera panning, then it was ATB gauges including a query gauge to disguise loading and allow the developers a shortcut to artificially inflate challenge, to swiping scenes from Star Wars almost wholesale, to making Summons functionally useless, to people bouncing around the battlefield, vaulting up in the air, wailing on an enemy suspended in the air, and summoning fancy transformers to pretty much the same effect as every other ATB based FF made prior to it.

Seriously though, Final Fantasy has always favored style over substance. It just wasn't that much of a problem early on as most RPGs of that era looked like shit, and they and a few others were the exceptions.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 14, 2013, 05:44:05 PM
Just a little update.

"Thank you very much for watching our live stream at E3!
We will be uploading video of the individual programming in high-resolution very soon.
Stay tuned!"


Square Enix Presents Live E3 2013 is a Wrap! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIkl9KVZFQA) -- SquareEnixPresents, YouTube

And some news things about XV:

Nomura wanted to turn Final Fantasy XV into a musical (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/06/nomura-wanted-to-turn-final-fantasy-xv-into-a-musical/) -- Nova Crystallis

Final Fantasy XV's Director on art, the modern setting and crazy hair (http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/final-fantasy-xvs-director-art-modern-setting-crazy-hair-6C10312260) -- NBC News
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Jotacon on June 14, 2013, 11:13:52 PM
Nomura's biggest film inspiration is Baz Lurhmann! The king of style over substance! Well, that explains a lot.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klutz64 on June 16, 2013, 11:17:03 PM
By the way, I have to ask... do we have absolute confirmation that X/X2 HD will have the International content for both games?
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 16, 2013, 11:18:42 PM
Nomura's biggest film inspiration is Baz Lurhmann! The king of style over substance! Well, that explains a lot.

Oh man,.... is that for real?  Because that would explain Advent Children almost entirely. 
Freud can hit on the "OKA-SAN!!" part.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Jotacon on June 16, 2013, 11:36:55 PM
Oh man,.... is that for real?  Because that would explain Advent Children almost entirely. 
Freud can hit on the "OKA-SAN!!" part.
Oh my god XD! That is hilarious.

And yeah it's real - from an Article Yggdrasil posted upthread:

On the subject of films, Nomura admits he doesn’t play too many games at home and instead delves into the world of movies – watching several on a typical night. His biggest cinematic inspiration is Baz Lurhman, the director behind Romeo + Juliet, Moulin Rouge, and The Great Gatsby.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 16, 2013, 11:39:00 PM
By the way, I have to ask... do we have absolute confirmation that X/X2 HD will have the International content for both games?

Haven't seen any info about that yet.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Cyril on June 16, 2013, 11:50:47 PM
Destructoid says it's the vanilla content.  I'm hoping he made a mistake, but Dale North seems pretty confident about it.

http://www.destructoid.com/hd-happiness-kingdom-hearts-and-final-fantasy-x-255800.phtml

You've probably heard this by now, but this HD upgrade is a straight port of the western release, meaning that we're not getting that International Version that some series fans were hoping for.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Starmongoose on June 16, 2013, 11:53:21 PM
That's incredibly lame and will probably put me off buying it if true. I've never played the vanilla game.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Taelus on June 16, 2013, 11:54:28 PM
I don't see why they'd cut it from FFX/-2 but not from Kingdom Hearts HD. Unless the rumor about selling Last Mission/Int'l as DLC is true. Which would be dumb, since that would require actual effort to remove.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 16, 2013, 11:57:40 PM
I don't see why they'd cut it from FFX/-2 but not from Kingdom Hearts HD. Unless the rumor about selling Last Mission/Int'l as DLC is true. Which would be dumb, since that would require actual effort to remove.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/ipcbxf.gif)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 16, 2013, 11:58:44 PM
IRC, wasn't it confirmed otherwise that we are getting it?

EDIT: or maybe just as DLC...yeah
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 17, 2013, 02:11:58 AM
Destructoid says it's the vanilla content.  I'm hoping he made a mistake, but Dale North seems pretty confident about it.

http://www.destructoid.com/hd-happiness-kingdom-hearts-and-final-fantasy-x-255800.phtml

You've probably heard this by now, but this HD upgrade is a straight port of the western release, meaning that we're not getting that International Version that some series fans were hoping for.

Translation: Skip it.

Even Wind Waker HD is sounding better than this.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 17, 2013, 02:33:06 PM
Translation: Skip it.

Not if you want to give hope to the idea of having XII remastered.

"Bundling two of the biggest Japanese PS2 titles together on PS3 (though Vita separates them) is a brilliant move, but what about the massive elephant in the room - the potential this opens up for a remake of Final Fantasy XII or other much-loved entries in the series? Surely that title is next on the slate?

Kitase remains coy, but his few choice words give us a little hope. "We'll have to wait and see if these remasters are going to be successful, first," he explained.

"If they do well, I think this will pave the way for more of the previous games to remade in an HD sort of quality. I mean, if we had to single out one of the vast number of Final Fantasy titles which we could make in HD, it would have to be Final Fantasy XII."

Kitase then explained he wasn't involved in that project - that was helmed by the long-silent Hiroyuki Ito and Yasumi Matsuno, who has since left the company - and thus he was reluctant to comment more.

"What I can say though is that I hope the remastering of X and X-2 will trigger similar projects for more of the past games," he concluded. Time - and sales - will tell."


Source: RPG Site (http://www.rpgsite.net/interviews/448-e3-2013-final-fantasy-x-&-x2-hd-remaster-developer-interview)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klutz64 on June 17, 2013, 02:39:16 PM
Yeah, nooot really. FFXII always looked good enough to me, and I doubt my PS2 is going to crap the bed any time soon *knock on wood*

I was mostly looking forward to the extra content in X/X-2. If that will be there as DLC, then I'll still get the games. The game is a really good deal regardless, and though I'm not a fan of locking stuff as DLC, I don't mind giving in this time around.

And yes, I know that XII had some extra content in the international version as well. From what I hear, the extra license board content didn't save that from being a dreadful character development system.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 17, 2013, 02:56:27 PM
MAAAN, PS2 remasters are sooOOooooOo last gen.  PSX remasters would be the thing to bring back from yesteryear.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 17, 2013, 03:36:20 PM
Translation: Skip it.

Not if you want to give hope to the idea of having XII remastered.

And still not get the International version for the price of admission? No dice.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 17, 2013, 03:55:01 PM
No dice.

D:
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Akanbe- on June 17, 2013, 04:48:18 PM
Destructoid says it's the vanilla content.  I'm hoping he made a mistake, but Dale North seems pretty confident about it.

http://www.destructoid.com/hd-happiness-kingdom-hearts-and-final-fantasy-x-255800.phtml

You've probably heard this by now, but this HD upgrade is a straight port of the western release, meaning that we're not getting that International Version that some series fans were hoping for.

I also could have sworn they confirmed it was the international release months ago.  Wish they would get their story straight. 
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Cyril on June 17, 2013, 11:49:52 PM
MAAAN, PS2 remasters are sooOOooooOo last gen.  PSX remasters would be the thing to bring back from yesteryear.

I'd be okay with this.  They wouldn't even need a full graphics upgrade, just the ability to be upscaled without looking horrible and blurry. Which, in itself, is a graphics upgrade I suppose, but they wouldn't need to remodel everything.  It would probably take a good deal more work than the PS2 remasters, though.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 18, 2013, 12:06:18 PM
from Nova Crystallis (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/06/e3-2013-final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-remaster-hands-on/):

"The E3 demo of the title only offered an introductory vertical slice of FFX, but we also know some of the additional features the title will offer.

Both are based off the 'International' versions of each game – meaning that there are additional features, quests, bosses, enemies and other balance tweaks and changes throughout both games.

For FFX this will be new for Americans, but not for Europeans, who got the International additions the first time around. FFX-2's International additions will be all-new for everyone in the West – and even includes a strange additional mission with a completely different gameplay style."


I don't know if I should take this info as reliable yet since is a guest article for Nova Crystallis that a guy from another site wrote, but for now though this is the closest thing to a confirmation I've seen.

And still not get the International version for the price of admission? No dice.

Nobody has said anything official anyway.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 18, 2013, 12:43:08 PM
And still not get the International version for the price of admission? No dice.

Nobody has said anything official anyway.

Right. As I said before, I'm not supporting squat until something official comes out (and I'm still not going to support squat if this turns out to be Squeenix nickle and dimeing us; seriously, FFXII vanilla wasn't worth the original $60 dollar price of admission when it first came out (as evident by the $20 dollar price drop the collector's edition had not more than a week after launch), let alone having to pay that again, plus the adjustments for PS3/Vita/whatever the hell they're porting this to releases at (because you know they're going to charge full price for this), plus the cost of having to buy the international version changes as DLC (and god damn them if its piecemeal); its Capcom levels of sleazy and I'm straight up not supporting that, let alone an HD remaster of an okay PS2 launch title and a piece of shit).
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Der Jermeister on June 18, 2013, 06:25:11 PM
First of all, fuck you asshole, I like FFX and X-2.

Second, I would kill for a PS3 remaster of FFXII Zodiac Job System, which is the version of the game they should have released in the first place.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Eusis on June 18, 2013, 06:35:08 PM
First of all, fuck you asshole, I like FFX and X-2.

Don't attack other users unless you want to be banned. He stated his opinion, crass as it was, and that's fine.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Ashton on June 18, 2013, 08:33:25 PM
And still not get the International version for the price of admission? No dice.

Nobody has said anything official anyway.

Right. As I said before, I'm not supporting squat until something official comes out (and I'm still not going to support squat if this turns out to be Squeenix nickle and dimeing us; seriously, FFXII vanilla wasn't worth the original $60 dollar price of admission when it first came out (as evident by the $20 dollar price drop the collector's edition had not more than a week after launch), let alone having to pay that again, plus the adjustments for PS3/Vita/whatever the hell they're porting this to releases at (because you know they're going to charge full price for this), plus the cost of having to buy the international version changes as DLC (and god damn them if its piecemeal); its Capcom levels of sleazy and I'm straight up not supporting that, let alone an HD remaster of an okay PS2 launch title and a piece of shit).
FFXII was $50 at launch IIRC, the $60 launch price didn't start until this gen. The price drop was likely due to the fact that the current gen was gaining momentum and people were buying previous gen games less and less. Tales of the Abyss got a price drop almost immediately after release and that game was worth every penny.

I doubt the International version changes will be DLC, but we'll see. I also have my doubts about the game being full price (most HD rereleases have been around $40), but again, we'll see when the games come out.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Taelus on June 18, 2013, 11:52:50 PM
Square has basically already said that the HD remasters are going to be $40 for the pack on PS3 and $20 each on Vita.

And yeah, outright attacks are no. I completely disagree with him on everything he said, but you can't tell people to go fuck themselves here. If you disagree, you can say so.

And Aeolus, whether or not you like FFXII is completely irrelevant. The game is massive and saying it was somehow cheating you by being full-price at launch is... well, disingenuous. Maybe you didn't like it, but the game was not incomplete. It was much improved by the IZJS version, but it isn't at all a Capcom-level "hey here's the same game 8 months later at full price but we tweaked it." The game was still better than most games and packed with stuff to do.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Cyril on June 19, 2013, 01:37:39 AM
If any single-player FF game released in the last 10 years has been worth its full price at launch, it's FFXII.  It has an amazing amount of content.  The main storyline may get horrible halfway through, when you can tell Matsuno left, but arguing it's not content-filled seems silly to me.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 19, 2013, 02:27:00 AM
And still not get the International version for the price of admission? No dice.

Nobody has said anything official anyway.

Right. As I said before, I'm not supporting squat until something official comes out (and I'm still not going to support squat if this turns out to be Squeenix nickle and dimeing us; seriously, FFXII vanilla wasn't worth the original $60 dollar price of admission when it first came out (as evident by the $20 dollar price drop the collector's edition had not more than a week after launch), let alone having to pay that again, plus the adjustments for PS3/Vita/whatever the hell they're porting this to releases at (because you know they're going to charge full price for this), plus the cost of having to buy the international version changes as DLC (and god damn them if its piecemeal); its Capcom levels of sleazy and I'm straight up not supporting that, let alone an HD remaster of an okay PS2 launch title and a piece of shit).
FFXII was $50 at launch IIRC, the $60 launch price didn't start until this gen. The price drop was likely due to the fact that the current gen was gaining momentum and people were buying previous gen games less and less. Tales of the Abyss got a price drop almost immediately after release and that game was worth every penny.

I doubt the International version changes will be DLC, but we'll see. I also have my doubts about the game being full price (most HD rereleases have been around $40), but again, we'll see when the games come out.

I specified the Collector's Edition for a reason. -_-;

But yes, FFXII has an absurd amount of content (even if most of it requires a guide and an absurd amount of grinding to even have a chance at getting at). I wasn't going at the amount of content per say to begin with so much as the fact that it took a massive price drop a week after release (and the MMO levels of horrible grinding, and the crappy ATB system disguised as a free roaming MMO style combat system, and the shoddy plot and characters).
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 19, 2013, 05:28:47 AM
Final Fantasy XV (http://www.finalfantasy.net/xv/world-epic/) & Kingdom Hearts III (http://www.khinsider.com/news/KINGDOM-HEARTS-III-In-7-4-Famitsu-Weekly-3336) info from Famitsu.

Source(s): Final Fantasy Network, Kingdom Hearts Insider
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 19, 2013, 10:34:38 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
!!!! :D

I know people here have bitter feelings about the Star Ocean series, but I still feel they're incredible titles that require more than level grinding to win the day (and take place in usually pretty fancy settings), so even trademark "news" gets me pretty darn excited. x)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Klutz64 on June 19, 2013, 10:43:51 AM
Hopefully any new Star Ocean doesn't have the major 3 problems I had with Star Ocean 4:

-Generic characters
-Insanely long dungeons
-Battle trophies based purely on grinding and luck
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 19, 2013, 10:50:41 AM
Hopefully any new Star Ocean doesn't have the major 3 problems I had with Star Ocean 4:

-Generic characters
-Insanely long dungeons
-Battle trophies based purely on grinding and luck

I found the BT's were more tedious than luck/grinding (the 7777, 8888 damage ones aside) -- even still, it was pretty easy to manage to get *at least* half so you can hit the level cap (that, if anything, was an annoying idea; but you could beat the game within the cap they give you).

Chracters were definitely a bore; they really shouldn't have tried to give a sci-fi videogame "anime-souls".  SO3 had vaguely better characters because they didn't try to pull any punches with them or use many stupid gags. 

One thing I am loving about Eternal Sonata is that save points are literally EVERYWHERE.  SO3 was probably the bigger offender for "long dungeons" mainly because they had no problem with "consecutive" dungeons....  *that* sucked.

Even if it's an HD release, I don't care.  I'm one of few people who are perfectly happy being perfectly bias towards the series.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Ranadiel on June 20, 2013, 07:16:36 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
!!!! :D

I know people here have bitter feelings about the Star Ocean series, but I still feel they're incredible titles that require more than level grinding to win the day (and take place in usually pretty fancy settings), so even trademark "news" gets me pretty darn excited. x)

Calling it now, reboot with the main cast from 1 as a result of someone time travelling.

Side note: I mentally correlate Star Ocean games with Star Trek series/movies. Last Star Ocean game was the Enterprise game, so the next one has to be the reboot one.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 20, 2013, 10:21:41 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
!!!! :D

I know people here have bitter feelings about the Star Ocean series, but I still feel they're incredible titles that require more than level grinding to win the day (and take place in usually pretty fancy settings), so even trademark "news" gets me pretty darn excited. x)

Calling it now, reboot with the main cast from 1 as a result of someone time travelling.

Side note: I mentally correlate Star Ocean games with Star Trek series/movies. Last Star Ocean game was the Enterprise game, so the next one has to be the reboot one.

Doesn't explain Star Ocean 3.

But admittedly the Matrix was still popular at the time (before the rest of the trilogy kinda ruined it).
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Annubis on June 20, 2013, 12:49:22 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
I would be totally fine with a Star Ocean reboot.
There is seriously very little room for any continuation or prequel right now.
A reboot is good in the sense that you get to keep the things that were good and scrap the ones that weren't (like the universe is an MMORPG).
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 20, 2013, 02:33:17 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
I would be totally fine with a Star Ocean reboot.
There is seriously very little room for any continuation or prequel right now.
A reboot is good in the sense that you get to keep the things that were good and scrap the ones that weren't (like the universe is an MMORPG).

Watch it turn out to be an iOS PtP CCG PoS like everything else that Squeenix is doing right now (that isn't FFXVersus, KH3, FFXIII-3, FFXIVmk2, or Drakengard 3).
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Taelus on June 20, 2013, 02:49:37 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
I would be totally fine with a Star Ocean reboot.
There is seriously very little room for any continuation or prequel right now.
A reboot is good in the sense that you get to keep the things that were good and scrap the ones that weren't (like the universe is an MMORPG).

iOS PtP CCG PoS

I LOLed.

Although I have to admit, they made a lot of good moves at E3. I think they're doing a very good job of balancing their projects between mobile stuff and "stuff for us" right now.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Ranadiel on June 21, 2013, 06:22:59 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/18/square-enix-registers-occult-maiden-and-star-ocean-trademarks/
!!!! :D

I know people here have bitter feelings about the Star Ocean series, but I still feel they're incredible titles that require more than level grinding to win the day (and take place in usually pretty fancy settings), so even trademark "news" gets me pretty darn excited. x)

Calling it now, reboot with the main cast from 1 as a result of someone time travelling.

Side note: I mentally correlate Star Ocean games with Star Trek series/movies. Last Star Ocean game was the Enterprise game, so the next one has to be the reboot one.

Doesn't explain Star Ocean 3.

But admittedly the Matrix was still popular at the time (before the rest of the trilogy kinda ruined it).
I mentally map that one to Voyager, which I acknowledge does not have a lot in common with S03.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Alisha on June 21, 2013, 07:22:57 AM
why does occult maiden instantly make me think of valkyrie profile?
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 21, 2013, 09:29:57 AM
why does occult maiden instantly make me think of valkyrie profile?

A desperate longing stemming from abandonment issues? :v
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 21, 2013, 02:11:20 PM
why does occult maiden instantly make me think of valkyrie profile?

A desperate longing stemming from abandonment issues? :v

I feel that.  I feeeel. that.

EDIT: I kinda like old Yuna's look better.  Either way, nice comparison:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v411/Valkyrie963/Screenshot2013-06-20at125247PM_zps0879be0e.jpg)
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: (Tunnels) on June 22, 2013, 11:28:31 AM
I would be really excited if they did another console or handheld Star Ocean. I'll admit being disappointed with 3 and 4, mainly due to the plots of both games (as well as 4's characters, except Arumat) but I loved 4's battle system and thought it was the best in the series. Also, I liked that 3 kept the optional character choice system, where there are 4 potential characters that can join your party but you can only choose 2, which reminds me of 2 with choosing between Opera+Ernest or Ashton and Bowman or Precis. SO2 is one of my favorite games ever, so I definitely hold the SO series in great esteem despite the shortcomings of the latter entries.

If they made Private Actions like they were in first 3 installments I'd be really fucking happy.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Dice on June 22, 2013, 12:33:41 PM
I would be really excited if they did another console or handheld Star Ocean. I'll admit being disappointed with 3 and 4, mainly due to the plots of both games (as well as 4's characters, except Arumat) but I loved 4's battle system and thought it was the best in the series. Also, I liked that 3 kept the optional character choice system, where you 4 potential characters that can join your party but you can only choose 2, which reminds me of 2 with choosing between Opera+Ernest or Ashton and Bowman or Precis. SO2 is one of my favorite games ever, so I definitely hold the SO series in great esteem despite the shortcomings of the latter entries.

If they made Private Actions like they were in first 3 installments I'd be really fucking happy.

Full 3D remake of SO2 (PS3/4 style) would actually make my head explode.... it'd probably need serious plot revamping, but I'm just super saiyan.
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 22, 2013, 07:28:34 PM
Square Enix Presents livestream videos rounded up (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/06/square-enix-presents-livestream-videos-rounded-up/) -- Source: Nova Crystallis

"If you missed the livestream festivities last week, Square Enix has uploaded the majority of their E3 presentations on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/user/SquareEnixPresents/videos) for easy viewing."
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Lard on June 27, 2013, 12:22:07 AM
I didn't know where to put this so I figured why not here.

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/26/former-square-enix-ceo-yoichi-wada-listed-as-chairman-of-the-boa/

Isn't this kind of like jailing an arsonist then letting him work in a match factory?
Title: Re: SQUARE ENIX Presents, Live Broadcast E3 Showcase
Post by: Aeolus on June 27, 2013, 12:57:54 AM
I didn't know where to put this so I figured why not here.

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/26/former-square-enix-ceo-yoichi-wada-listed-as-chairman-of-the-boa/

Isn't this kind of like jailing an arsonist then letting him work in a match factory?

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2013/06/facepalmshutterstock530.jpg)

Reposting for emphasis.


(Technically, this is effectively promoting the guy out of the trenches and away from anybody doing anything important. Kinda like promoting a captain, lets say Kirk, into an admiral where he is left to administrate and nose about in top secret research rather than being left at the helm of his ship, for lack of a better example shall be referred to as the Enterprise, which he could run into the ground, by like settling an old score, or outright sinking it, perhaps taking a few Klingons down with it if we're lucky. But then again, this is Squeenix we're talking about here, so who knows?)