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Title: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on July 03, 2013, 03:25:16 PM
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Director(s): Motomu Toriyama, Takayoshi Nakazato & Toshiro Tsuchida (FF X) / Motomu Toriyama (FF X-2)
Producer: Yoshinori Kitase (FF X & X-2)
Writer(s): Kazushige Nojima (FF X & X-2) / Daisuke Watanabe (FF X-2)
Lead Art Director(s): Yusuke Naora (FF X) / Shintaro Takai (FF X-2)
Composer(s): Nobuo Uematsu, Masashi Hamauzu & Junya Nakano (FF X) / Noriko Matsueda & Takahito Eguchi (FF X-2)

Platform(s): PlayStation 3 / PlayStation Vita
Genre: RPG
Release Date(s): March 18 (NA) / March 21 (EU), 2014

Official website(s): Japan (http://www.jp.square-enix.com/ffx_x-2HD/) / International (http://www.finalfantasyxhd.com/)

'Differences from the original versions' from Final Fantasy Wiki (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X/X-2_HD_Remaster#Differences_from_the_Original_Versions):

"Both games contain improved maps and character models and textures as well as improved lighting, shadowing and enhanced pre-rendered movies with better quality in high definition. Trophies for both games will be added. All controllable and other major characters have new character models, and monsters and minor characters have rearranged textures to improve quality. The game now plays at 16:9 widescreen and some scenes have been adjusted with different camera angles to accommodate for it.

As the HD remasters will be of the games' International versions, they have some new additions for North American and PAL region players. The Final Fantasy X International was never released in North America and includes a new Sphere Grid option, new optional bosses and new abilities. Final Fantasy X-2 International + Last Mission was a Japan exclusive release, and adds new dresspheres, a Monster Create system, and Coliseum.

Both games will also get improved voice audio."


'Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster has a new drama sequence during the credits' from Siliconera (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/07/03/final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-remaster-has-a-new-drama-sequence-during-the-credits/):

"Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster will have a new 30-minute-long drama that will play during the compilation's credits sequence."

"This 30-minute sequence will feature newly recorded voices and will be written by Kazushige Nojima."
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on July 03, 2013, 03:47:55 PM
OH MAN. I was kind of hoping they wouldn't confirm that this was the International Edition. I hate that Square is releasing both this and KH 1.5 on the same day. There's no way I can afford to get both at the same time, but which to get first is driving me nuts.

For KH, it's mostly the pre-order artbook that has me thinking of getting it day 1.

BUT two years ago I was just starting to play through FFX again when Square announced the HD version. I stopped playing then and there and have been waiting that entire time to get my FFX fix.

BUT THE ARTBOOK :\
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on July 03, 2013, 04:30:57 PM
If it means anything, the HD titles are priced at $40 as opposed to the usual $60... can't budget for it? =/
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on July 03, 2013, 09:18:35 PM
I make a grand total of $100 - $150 a month and am $4500 in debt. Ideally I'll have a better job by the time they come out, but I've been saying that for 3 years...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on July 03, 2013, 10:06:12 PM
I make a grand total of $100 - $150 a month and am $4500 in debt. Ideally I'll have a better job by the time they come out, but I've been saying that for 3 years...

Yeah, I know what that's like.  I might actually pull the "mum, I did well on my test, can I get a vidya game?".  Brrr.... x(
Sorry, I do think a lot of us are or have been there.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: GuardianBoi on July 03, 2013, 11:57:24 PM
Wow! I was honestly not that excited about this game, but with a whole new ending, and some new content...I may have to get it for my Vita. I'm pleasantly surprised. :)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Taelus on July 04, 2013, 12:40:36 AM
SOLD! To my game-happy Vita.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Cyril on July 04, 2013, 12:50:49 AM
I'm definitely glad destructoid was wrong about it not being the International versions.

I can't really decide which version I want, though.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Aurian on July 04, 2013, 12:53:09 AM
My vita needs some wuv too. This is my favorite FF so looking forward to playing it again.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Sagacious-T on July 04, 2013, 04:09:16 AM
No Dual Audio, no buy.

FFX was so far behind FFXII in English VA.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on July 04, 2013, 04:35:34 AM
Does anyone know if the Vita version is digital-only or not? I tried to search for some info for the OP but I didn't found anything.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Lard on July 04, 2013, 05:55:04 AM
I'm glad the DLC rumour turned out to be false.

Will be picking these up for sure.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Alisha on July 04, 2013, 06:07:53 AM
now i just need for hd remasters of shadow hearts 2 wild arms 3-5 and xenosaga 3 to be announced.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Lard on July 04, 2013, 07:28:41 AM
now i just need for hd remasters of shadow hearts 2 wild arms 3-5 and xenosaga 3 to be announced.

I'll take all three Shadow Hearts and all three Xenosaga
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on July 04, 2013, 07:42:31 AM
^In what cloud do you guys live in? I mean, if we are being realistic here and try to keep expectations in check all of those RPGs have more of a chance to be "PS2 classics" more than anything else.

#isnicetowantthings
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dincrest on July 04, 2013, 08:11:18 AM
A little wishful thinking never hurt anyone.  So to add to the wishful thinking pile of collections (we already mentioned Shadow Hearts series, Wild Arms series, and Xenogears/Saga series) I add Grandia series! 

No Dual Audio, no buy.


Japanese laughing scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAgVjH9V9Ps (starts at 5:45.  Laughing at about 8:01)

English laughing scene:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg9I54vFFms

I actually liked the English version better.  My muddled thoughts on the laughing scene are in this thread: http://www.rpgfan.com/boards/index.php?topic=6353.0
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on July 04, 2013, 10:57:12 AM
It's so weird to think the English version did a better job depicting a terrible scene than the original Japanese one.

...I wonder if they're gonna scout the voice actors down for the extra 30 minutes of cutscene.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Cyril on July 04, 2013, 11:33:37 AM
X's Japanese voice acting is really, really bad.  The English voice acting is 10/10 in comparison.

I've no idea why you'd even want it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on July 04, 2013, 11:36:11 AM
X's Japanese voice acting is really, really bad.  The English voice acting is 10/10 in comparison.

I've no idea why you'd even want it.

i don't?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Cyril on July 04, 2013, 11:54:12 AM
Oh, apologies. I wasn't referring to "you" as in, er "you." I meant in general.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Sagacious-T on July 07, 2013, 11:10:18 PM
They're going to do FFXII HD next if this sells well.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Cyril on July 08, 2013, 12:04:25 AM
I certainly hope so.  I've love to have an official western release of International Zodiac Job System.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Haven on July 08, 2013, 12:28:42 AM
They're going to do FFXII HD next if this sells well.

 FFXII in HD on the Vita would be amazing. I loaded up a save with about 96 hours on it about a week ago. Good times.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dincrest on July 08, 2013, 07:21:30 AM
I certainly hope so.  I've love to have an official western release of International Zodiac Job System.

This!  I've pissed and moaned enough about the License Board yet the Zodiac system sounds good.  I'd want FF12 HD remix if it's the International version with the Zodiac system.

As for FFX, love it or hate it (it's linear, repetitive, some plot elements and characters are polarizing, etc.) I still think it has the best battle system I've encountered in a Final Fantasy game and still wonder why it hasn't ever been used again.  
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on July 09, 2013, 01:51:32 PM
Annnd... Square Enix announced an artbook for X/X-2 HD as well. Fuck it, I'm getting both this and KH 1.5. Finances BE DAMNED!!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Raze on July 09, 2013, 06:40:35 PM
Japanese laughing scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAgVjH9V9Ps (starts at 5:45.  Laughing at about 8:01)

I've always thought it was the writing that was more at fault and that that scene couldn't have been done well.

But my god that was awful.

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I've love to have an official western release of International Zodiac Job System.

I've considered the not so official version a few times and oddly get turned off by it. I generally hate the give everyone everything 'customization' and the licence grid is the worst of the offenders. But that's what the game was made around. So I might look at gamefaqs and go 'what do I get for being a archer' and find the answer is..nothing really. You get a bow. There's no bow specials or anything because you're still playing ff12. It just comes off less as being a specialist and more as limiting.

Who knows though, on paper it doesn't look so hot, but maybe I'll play it one day and it'll win me over.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Zendervai on July 09, 2013, 07:35:06 PM
The problem with vanilla XII's license board is that it's actually really hard to specialize. Everyone ends up the same because everyone starts in really similar spots and when your characters are completely interchangeable in terms of skills and useable weapons, what's the point of having a choice of characters? You almost always end up with a really weird selection of skills at first with the characters too, because you sort of need to go for the Quickenings and some of them are in the stupidest spots.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on July 09, 2013, 07:49:07 PM
That and you can easily fill the entire first license board (sans the very best weapon/armor/spell slots) by level 40.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on July 10, 2013, 02:36:27 AM
Final Fantasy X/X-2's ending voice drama takes place a year after FFX-2 (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/07/final-fantasy-xx-2s-ending-voice-drama-takes-place-a-year-after-ffx-2/) -- Source: Nova Crystallis

"This new story is said to take place one year following the events of Final Fantasy X-2 and will feature all new characters. Square Enix is also preparing illustrations to accompany the episode, in place of actual cutscenes. Although the games are being split up for PS Vita, the audio drama will be available for both console and handheld releases."

Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster will have International edition content (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/07/12/final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-remaster-will-have-international-edition-content/) -- Source: Siliconera

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"The International edition of Final Fantasy X includes bonus features like Dark Aeons, bonus boss battles, and a 14-minute video clip, titled "Eternal Calm," which bridges the story of Final Fantasy X and its sequel Final Fantasy X-2. Regarding the Last Mission, Square told Polygon in May that its inclusion would be dependent on disc capacity."

"Kitase mentioned the possibility of Last Mission's inclusion in a separate interview, and we've updated our report to reflect this."
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Taelus on July 13, 2013, 05:42:38 PM
How the shit can Last Mission not fit on a bluray? It can't possibly be THAT MUCH SPACE. Further, if they're digital, it REALLY doesn't matter if it fits on a bluray. And you're telling me they can fit a 30 minute video on the disc, but not content that was original in the game?

No.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: lavarock on July 15, 2013, 09:14:20 PM
Not buying if no last mission.  Already beat X numerous times and X-2 100% years ago, an half hour audio drama is not enticing enough
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on July 15, 2013, 09:17:17 PM
Not buying if no last mission.  Already beat X numerous times and X-2 100% years ago, an half hour audio drama is not enticing enough

I'm mostly shaking my head with what the half hour J-drama can possibly be about; the FF10-2 "true ending" was dumb enough.

 I really think the perks of FFX Int are pretty damn splendid, but like what Taelus says, there's no excuse for not including it based on memory of a goddamn bluray; far grander epics have fit onto one disc like the related corridor adventure: FF13.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dincrest on July 15, 2013, 09:39:45 PM
I don't even think FFX-2 was necessary, story-wise.  I thought FFX ended just fine as is.  I will admit, though, that I liked Noriko Matsueda and Takahito Eguchi's music for X-2.  It was different than your garden variety JRPG soundtrack (lots of jazz and funk textures), but I dug it. 
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Zendervai on July 15, 2013, 09:43:17 PM
X-2 wasn't necessary, but it showed another side of Spira when the people aren't constantly afraid for their lives, which is nice. It's not necessary, but it's not useless.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Cyril on July 15, 2013, 10:26:16 PM
I thought the Eternal Calm Epilogue did a good job of the showing Spira after war, to be honest.  I'm not sure how openly released it was in North America, though.  I remember the first time I saw the movie was on a demo disk in one of the gaming magazines.  I think it was part of the International release?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkOHcImHBmw

So, er, yeah, I agree. Not really necessary.  I honestly wasn't the biggest X fan, so had they put X-2's battle system into any other game I would have loved it a lot more. I ended up liking X-2 a lot more than X.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on July 16, 2013, 12:01:52 AM
I'm mostly shaking my head with what the half hour J-drama can possibly be about; the FF10-2 "true ending" was dumb enough.

Dumb is how sensitive FF fans can get sometimes (or, most of the time).

I thought that the ending of X was kinda abrupt and didn't give a sense of closure from the point of view of Yuna so everything that came after it expanded that world more for those who wanted to see new scenarios and what not.

Besides is not like X-2 and the True Ending ruined the entire story, that always for me has been people feeling polarized by the game itself more than anything else. But you know, people is gonna say whatever they want so in a way I'm glad that Square Enix has that attitude of just doing what they think is best for what they are creating while still trying to be careful with the reaction they can get from fans.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on July 16, 2013, 12:42:43 AM
I'm mostly shaking my head with what the half hour J-drama can possibly be about; the FF10-2 "true ending" was dumb enough.

Dumb is how sensitive FF fans can get sometimes (or, most of the time).

I thought that the ending of X was kinda abrupt and didn't give a sense of closure from the point of view of Yuna so everything that came after it expanded that world more for those who wanted to see new scenarios and what not.

Besides is not like X-2 and the True Ending ruined the entire story, that always for me has been people feeling polarized by the game itself more than anything else. But you know, people is gonna say whatever they want so in a way I'm glad that Square Enix has that attitude of just doing what they think is best for what they are creating while still trying to be careful with the reaction they can get from fans.

With all due respect, and forums need people like ya (so I say it actually *with* respect) but you seem a bit more over-sentimental for X and XIII.  I'm the same for cerrtain other series' (Star Ocean for one), so yeah.

I thought the more abrupt nature of the ending (whether you meant it or not, but certainly Tidus' "abrupt" departure in the ending) was what made almost more tragic because it was quick and sudden, where you're not given more "magical love" time for the main couple to spend time together.  The endgame "hug" he gives her was certainly one of the most memorable things I've seen as far as videogame romance is concerned.  But it gets really cheapened when ~magic~ brings him back for little reason besides Yuna missed him and went through some of the most arbitrary conditions to get a 100% completion score to achieve said ending (skipping text, talking to a mascot two minutes into the game, wtf).

The game really didn't need a x-2, and certainly few were expecting it at the end of the first game.  It IS a nice addition though, I liked Zen's perspective where it's nice to see people not living in fear and saying "SIN" like they're talking about Lord Voldemort; I also felt that similar pain where Zanarkand became a cheap tourist attraction the second time around (...hmm).  I also loved the fuck out of the battle system and had a blast with it, and I agree with Din's remarks on super funky and hip OST (while maybe not as memorable than the original game's soundtrack, certainly had an interesting flair...and the opening piano tune is 11/10 as far as a main FF theme goes).

.....but then fuckin Vegnagun happened and then we got a Romeo and Juliet story done to the tune of Brittany Spears and Tidus-wannabe on his period threatening to blow things up with his big gunz.  Also, I gotta throw beef at the obligatory bathing scene for being pointless and awkward more than "girls bein' girls".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NDQcuO_16aQ#t=101s
Are they like....even doing anything at the end?  If they were trying to be cute they failed because that conversation has happened in 99.5% of all anime, and if they were trying to be sexy, the girls wear basically the same amount of clothing (or lack of) in just their normal attire.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Giga_Force on July 16, 2013, 12:47:09 AM
I can't wait to hear the soundtrack for X again. "Wandering Flame" 0____0

I hope this sells well so we'll see FFXII: IZJS in the near future.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Alisha on July 16, 2013, 03:01:15 AM
i absolutely hate the oldschool FF fans that think X-2 is amazing because dat atb.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on July 16, 2013, 03:03:53 AM
you seem a bit more over-sentimental for X and XIII.

Maybe. Everytime I see someone barking about X-2 or the XIII series I just assume is another person that has the attitude of some older fans with being salty and feeling betrayed by SQEX all the time, or something.

I got bored of that a long time ago. *shrug*

And yeah... I just enjoy FF for what it is and I don't let nostalgia get to me or ruin my experience. Though that doesn't mean that I don't agree with some of the criticism that fans have reapeated over and over and over again for years.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Giga_Force on July 16, 2013, 05:22:06 AM
i absolutely hate the oldschool FF fans that think X-2 is amazing because dat atb.

Meh. I'll take Vagrant Story's battle system over any game.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on July 16, 2013, 08:03:38 AM
i absolutely hate the oldschool FF fans that think X-2 is amazing because dat atb.

I enjoy X-2's battle system because it's nothing LIKE old school FF battle systems. It's much faster paced, cast times become a consideration, and the garment grid system was a really nifty idea if not poorly executed (seriously, did anyone bother using activated grid bonuses?)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Frostillicus on July 16, 2013, 10:37:45 AM
I never played X-2, but there were a few times I almost bought it... Seemed interesting, with a few somewhat unique aspects. It ultimately sounds like I didn't miss too much however, so I'm content not knowing this "True Ending" (lol). X ended well as it was, IMO.
I should replay X soon, actually. Been years...

Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on July 16, 2013, 11:01:54 AM
I don't really understand the push to "go back" to turn based.  Those days are still, rather, *right* behind us; we've had turn based for like 15 years.  COME FORTH, AGE OF ACTION RPGs!!!  I WELCOME YOU.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on July 16, 2013, 11:53:53 AM
^Turn-based battle systems that feel dynamic are cool in my book.

That said, I do like my action being as fast-paced as it can be personally.

I never played X-2, but there were a few times I almost bought it... Seemed interesting, with a few somewhat unique aspects. It ultimately sounds like I didn't miss too much however, so I'm content not knowing this "True Ending" (lol). X ended well as it was, IMO.

Well too fucking bad that X got a sequel then. T_T'

I mean, one of the reasons why X-2 was made in the first place was because a decent amount of fans wanted to see more VII and X universes, so Square did that and the classic case of gamers wanting a thing, getting the thing and then complaining endlessly for years about how it wasn't exactly what they wanted or expected happened.

...though, Final Fantasy V was the first FF that got a sequel that was a short series of OVAs if I'm not wrong.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dincrest on July 16, 2013, 12:31:12 PM
One theme I liked in X-2 was that of rebuilding/reconstruction, because that process is always filled with uncertainty.  In FFX where you break open the truth about Yevon to the people, many like Wakka still cling to their shattered faith.  FFX-2 has a New Yevon faction and the opposing Youth League.  New Yevon is proof that many in Spira could not have faith in a non-religious world.  By contrast, there's that one guy Beclem who's hardcore atheist and harshly admonishes the Besaid Aurochs for doing "ancient meaningless traditions" such as praying.  There's also Dona and Barthello.  They were tighter than teeth and gums in FFX, but when she joined the Youth League and he joined New Yevon, it wasn't pretty.  Interesting that no matter how close you are, where you place your faith can tear even the closest people apart.

Bottom line, the FFX/X-2 saga has some solid thematic elements, but execution was not always consistent.

And, like I said before, I actually agree with Alisha that FFX had my favorite battle system of any FF game.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Frostillicus on July 16, 2013, 01:27:46 PM
Well too fucking bad that X got a sequel then. T_T'

I mean, one of the reasons why X-2 was made in the first place was because a decent amount of fans wanted to see more VII and X universes, so Square did that and the classic case of gamers wanting a thing, getting the thing and then complaining endlessly for years about how it wasn't exactly what they wanted or expected happened.

Relax. I'm not hating on X-2. Don't know enough about it to do so. Just sayin', it sounds like something I can miss and not lose any sleep over. I do get your point, though.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yoda on July 16, 2013, 01:46:48 PM
I'm looking forward to trying X2 for the first time.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dincrest on July 16, 2013, 10:12:30 PM
It's safe to say that FFX-2 is a cotton candy RPG; it's a fluffy, empty calorie sweet with not much substance.  But sometimes, cotton candy is what you want.  And as far as cotton candy goes, X-2 is a decent enough ball of the spun sugar confection.  Not a bad game, but not too fulfilling either. 
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Cyril on July 16, 2013, 10:16:47 PM
I'd personally recommend not getting the "True Ending" extra movie, too.  I felt that hindered the game's, and series', overall narrative.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Annubis on July 16, 2013, 10:17:55 PM
It's safe to say that FFX-2 is a cotton candy RPG; it's a fluffy, empty calorie sweet with not much substance.  But sometimes, cotton candy is what you want.  And as far as cotton candy goes, X-2 is a decent enough ball of the spun sugar confection.  Not a bad game, but not too fulfilling either. 

My cotton candy never moaned loudly as I touched it that I had to lower the volume because it was really embarrassing.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Kevadu on July 16, 2013, 10:21:56 PM
It's safe to say that FFX-2 is a cotton candy RPG; it's a fluffy, empty calorie sweet with not much substance.  But sometimes, cotton candy is what you want.  And as far as cotton candy goes, X-2 is a decent enough ball of the spun sugar confection.  Not a bad game, but not too fulfilling either. 

My cotton candy never moaned loudly as I touched it that I had to lower the volume because it was really embarrassing.

You're eating the wrong cotton candy then.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on July 16, 2013, 11:18:24 PM
It's safe to say that FFX-2 is a cotton candy RPG; it's a fluffy, empty calorie sweet with not much substance.  But sometimes, cotton candy is what you want.  And as far as cotton candy goes, X-2 is a decent enough ball of the spun sugar confection.  Not a bad game, but not too fulfilling either. 

My cotton candy never moaned loudly as I touched it that I had to lower the volume because it was really embarrassing.

I remember my dad asking me what the hell I was playing when Kingdom Hearts went on a friendship dialogue train.

I was embarrassed.
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Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on July 16, 2013, 11:21:50 PM
I'd personally recommend not getting the "True Ending" extra movie, too.  I felt that hindered the game's, and series', overall narrative.

Sure you can do the whole "Lalalala~♪ That didn't happen, that's not canon." thing but that doesn't mean that is going to go away because of it.
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Post by: Cyril on July 17, 2013, 02:07:14 AM
I wasn't trying to say that it isn't canon, nor was I saying one should close their eyes and ears to its existence.  I was just saying he may enjoy it a bit more that way.

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I simply found the scene. . .invalidating.  Despite the overall tone, I enjoyed the story up until that point exactly.

However, on the subject of "ignore it," I find the people who close their eyes and "lalala, these connections to FFVII don't
exist and certainly weren't confirmed by the director  in the X Ultimania!" to be far more annoying.
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Post by: Yggdrasil on July 17, 2013, 04:18:53 AM
^I never could complete X-2, at best I just reached like 75% and I was pretty satisfied with the ending I got.

About the Compilation of FFVII. Was that ever finished or not? I never seen all the mateial from the compilation, but I remember someone saying that SQEX should have done a sequel to Dirge of Cerberus because of some of kind of secret ending there that showed Genesis Gackt and some stuff was left unfinished.
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Post by: Giga_Force on July 17, 2013, 05:52:37 AM
I actually enjoyed Dirge of Cerberus, a great deal! A fantastic soundtrack from Masashi Hamauzu.  Did Square just abandon a chance for a sequel?  That game was released when? 2006?
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Post by: Cyril on July 17, 2013, 06:09:45 AM
^I never could complete X-2, at best I just reached like 75% and I was pretty satisfied with the ending I got.

About the Compilation of FFVII. Was that ever finished or not? I never seen all the mateial from the compilation, but I remember someone saying that SQEX should have done a sequel to Dirge of Cerberus because of some of kind of secret ending there that showed Genesis Gackt and some stuff was left unfinished.

I think it was finished, but my only source on that matter is that they haven't put out any new games recently. Do they really need to make more, though?  Outside of milking for $$$.  They've pretty much thoroughly told FFVII's story and elaborated what needed elaborating. But in this case I was actually referring to the relationship between VII/X that was elaborated on in X-2 that some people vehemently deny despite it actually being confirmed;
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That is: X and VII take place on the same world.I wasn't aware that people even denied the VII Compilation's existence anymore, I thought it was sort of a dejected acceptance, haha.

And yeah, I actually really like the default/"Good" ending in X-2.  It's this one I was complaining about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXlBumDiI_U
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Post by: Ranadiel on July 17, 2013, 06:42:41 AM
But in this case I was actually referring to the relationship between VII/X that was elaborated on in X-2 that some people vehemently deny despite it actually being confirmed;
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That is: X and VII take place on the same world.

.....Wait what? Could you elaborate on that spoiler block because I don't remember anything to that effect (probably wasn't paying attention).
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Post by: Yggdrasil on July 17, 2013, 07:32:16 AM
^I never saw that mentioned in X-2 in a direct way but it was a big deal in two Ultimania books back in the day, and still is really.

Connection to Final Fantasy VII (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Shinra_(Final_Fantasy_X-2)#Connection_to_Final_Fantasy_VII) -- Source: Final Fantasy Wiki

I actually enjoyed Dirge of Cerberus, a great deal! A fantastic soundtrack from Masashi Hamauzu.  Did Square just abandon a chance for a sequel?  That game was released when? 2006?

Not sure. Outside of FFVII, Advent Children and two OVAs (one that is no longer canon I think) are all of what I saw from the compilation, and that's why I was asking if anybody here knew something because I saw the secret ending with Genesis Gackt appearing for curiosity but I have not much context to understand what was happening in that scene other than what fans of VII had said before.

And yes Dirge of Cerberus was released back in 2006.
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Post by: Ashton on July 17, 2013, 07:55:11 AM
But in this case I was actually referring to the relationship between VII/X that was elaborated on in X-2 that some people vehemently deny despite it actually being confirmed;
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That is: X and VII take place on the same world.

.....Wait what? Could you elaborate on that spoiler block because I don't remember anything to that effect (probably wasn't paying attention).
There is a character in X called Shinra, who's looking into energy sources and wants to find an alternative energy source. An interview in Ultimania (with Nomura, I think?) said that his distant descendant eventually went into outer space, landed in Final Fantasy VII's world, and... well...
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Post by: Zendervai on July 17, 2013, 11:53:33 AM
It actually works surprisingly well. Either the Farplane or the Lifestream is really screwed up (more likely the Farplane), but the effects are surprisingly similar and given what we know about the WEAPONS, that explains pretty well how the Aeons were made. Maybe SIN is a hijacked version of OMEGA Weapon or something?
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Post by: Dincrest on July 17, 2013, 03:01:12 PM
It's safe to say that FFX-2 is a cotton candy RPG; it's a fluffy, empty calorie sweet with not much substance.  But sometimes, cotton candy is what you want.  And as far as cotton candy goes, X-2 is a decent enough ball of the spun sugar confection.  Not a bad game, but not too fulfilling either. 

My cotton candy never moaned loudly as I touched it that I had to lower the volume because it was really embarrassing.

You're eating the wrong cotton candy then.

That sounds so dirty.  The 12 year old hentai in me wants to respond, "Guys, if there's no loud moaning, you're not eating that cotton candy right" while snickering about pink cotton candy. 

Ahem... so yeah... playing dress up with Rikku in HD...

I'm a naughty boy. 
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Post by: Yggdrasil on July 18, 2013, 04:17:36 AM
Final Fantasy GO THERE collaboration campaign launched (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/07/final-fantasy-go-there-collaboration-campaign-launched/) -- Source: Nova Crystallis

"Comprised of Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, and Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster – the campaign will set the stage for various collaborations to come about, a couple of which have already been revealed."

Official site: http://www.finalfantasy.jp/ff_go_there/

---

FINAL FANTASY X/X-2 HD Remaster [JP] Ending voice drama preview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLO1PC_ZQpY)

Tidus: "It's been two years since Spira entered the Eternal Calm. I was given a new life. For an entire year, I was able to walk alongside Yuna. It was fun. It really was."

Chuami: "Kurgum and I were walking around the Bevelle stadium road, formerly known as Mika Road. The stadium that should've been completed by now is still under construction, so I wonder if the tournament will actually take place here. If not, I wonder how the Spira council will take responsibility. Oh well, it doesn't matter to me. I have nothing to do with it. The only issue for me is the large crowd ahead, and the star shining in the middle of it."

Kurgum: "Hey Chiwami, not over there! We're in a hurry."

Chuami: "I waited for you, so we might as well just show up late. Anyways, isn't that Tidus?"

Translation -- Siliconera (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/07/25/first-listen-to-final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-remasters-new-drama-scene/)
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Post by: Yggdrasil on August 01, 2013, 10:49:13 AM
"Similar to Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX, Final Fantasy X will see around 60 of its tracks rearranged for the HD version. Masashi Hamauzu – one of the game's original composers and also responsible for Final Fantasy XIII's score – has even participated in bringing these new arrangements to life." -- Nova Crystallis (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/07/newly-arranged-music-coming-to-final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-remaster/)

Link should be fixed.*
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Post by: Dice on August 01, 2013, 01:10:54 PM
Holy .... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=f0Iu2CAwQaU&t=11)

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Post by: Giga_Force on August 02, 2013, 12:16:04 AM
"Similar to Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX, Final Fantasy X will see around 60 of its tracks rearranged for the HD version. Masashi Hamauzu – one of the game's original composers and also responsible for Final Fantasy XIII's score – has even participated in bringing these new arrangements to life." -- Nova Crystallis (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/07/newly-arranged-music-coming-to-final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-remaster/lDSAs)

I hope to hear an arranged version of Wandering Flame. 0_______0

I used to listen to that song for hours.
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Post by: Yggdrasil on August 02, 2013, 01:02:00 AM
Final Fantasy X - Wandering Flame [Extended] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5lyc2gLri4)

(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/053.gif)
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Post by: Giga_Force on August 02, 2013, 01:19:16 AM
Final Fantasy X - Wandering Flame [Extended] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5lyc2gLri4)

(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/053.gif)

I hope to hear this when I die, on an infinite loop.
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Post by: Aurian on August 02, 2013, 05:16:40 PM
Hopefully the arranged tracks are as good as the originals. Been hankering to listen to them actually.... trying to track down an affordable soundtrack CD/download.
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Post by: Giga_Force on August 02, 2013, 05:45:47 PM
Do you think we'll have the option of switching back to the original soundtrack or will this rearranged be the default option? I'm sure it will be amazing but for nostalgic reasons, I would love to have the original, too.
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Post by: Yggdrasil on August 05, 2013, 01:34:59 PM
Start and Character screens were deleted.*
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Post by: Giga_Force on August 05, 2013, 02:05:02 PM
I can't wait for this.  The screens looks good, even though it's the Menu and Character screen.
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Post by: Lard on August 06, 2013, 12:20:47 AM
Has anyone got links to the remastered music? The link above isn't working.
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Post by: Dice on August 06, 2013, 12:31:49 AM
Oh man, I hope Rikku's menu picture won't be 'squished' anymore xD
It was one of those small things that kept on nagging at me.
squish (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130215054229/finalfantasy/images/b/b9/FFX_Sphere_Grid_Rikku.png)
norm (http://moe.animecharactersdatabase.com/uploads/chars/5688-827658970.jpg)

I hated that whole "Play Online" logo too. 
But I really like how they're focusing on making things look, literally, water-down now.

EDIT: Why is there a Final Fantasy X logo and a banner that reads 'Final Fantasy X'?  Hell, on the old PS2 screenshot, it's written 3 goddamn times
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Post by: Spoony Mage on August 06, 2013, 05:37:27 AM
Am I a horrible person for wanting to get the the game just so I can hear the battle theme in an actual fight?  Because that and having never given either of the games a fair shake are among my primary reasons for getting this.  *.*
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Post by: Yggdrasil on August 06, 2013, 12:47:37 PM
Rumor: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD main menu leaked, confirms Eternal Calm and Last Mission (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/08/rumor-final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-main-menu-leaked-confirms-eternal-calm-and-last-mission/) -- Source: Nova Crystallis
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Post by: Klutz64 on August 06, 2013, 12:55:18 PM
Honestly, the whole "does it or does it not?" is getting a little tired. The fact that we still have to use "Rumor" and "Leaked" when the game is supposedly only a month away is at least a little bit silly.
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Post by: Dice on August 06, 2013, 01:24:26 PM
Honestly, the whole "does it or does it not?" is getting a little tired. The fact that we still have to use "Rumor" and "Leaked" when the game is supposedly only a month away is at least a little bit silly.

Yeah, I doubt we'll know 100% for sure until some Japanese dude is finally playing it and 'stumbles' into the content. x(
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Post by: Cyril on August 06, 2013, 06:24:58 PM
Edit: Or I can't read. Someone already said that.  Oopsie. 

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Post by: Yggdrasil on August 08, 2013, 12:15:25 PM
Probably you all know this by now, but there will be a playable demo of X/X-2 HD Remaster at gamescom.
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Post by: Cyril on August 08, 2013, 12:33:12 PM
With the pictures of review copies floating around, did we ever get an official western release date?  I'm not seeing any.
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Post by: Klutz64 on August 08, 2013, 01:03:16 PM
Everywhere I've been has this and KH 1.5 listed for Sept. 10
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Post by: Klyde Chroma on August 08, 2013, 01:11:49 PM
Everywhere I've been has this and KH 1.5 listed for Sept. 10

What!!? So soon... I didn't check... I would have to quit everything else in life to finish the maelstrom of RPG's this fall before the next sequential releases on my "must play" list hit the shelves. Gee golly. I'm still gonna be playing these August/Sept/October realeases this time next year.
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Post by: Cyril on August 08, 2013, 01:20:53 PM
I don't think they'd release them on the same day.  That seems silly.  The FFX one is probably a placeholder date.

Amazon has September 10th for KH HD, but a placeholder date (December 31st) for FFX/X-2 HD.
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Post by: Yggdrasil on August 08, 2013, 01:36:25 PM
There isn't any release date set yet.
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Post by: Yggdrasil on August 18, 2013, 01:38:36 PM
Final Fantasy X Interview(s):

James Arnold Taylor (Tidus) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MurmenCSIOI)

Hedy Burress (Yuna) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fu12YWhfrI)
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Post by: Giga_Force on August 18, 2013, 04:15:51 PM
That was interesting watching those two interviews. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by: Klutz64 on August 23, 2013, 12:57:35 PM
Oh my God, that battle video you guys just posted...

I WANT THIS GAME YESTERDAY!!
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Post by: Giga_Force on August 23, 2013, 04:10:47 PM
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Masashi Hamauzu, but I'm really not digging the arranged battle theme. It's "OK", but the original just sounds perfect and not because I'm used to it.  Hopefully, we have the option of using the original soundtrack.
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Post by: Yggdrasil on August 23, 2013, 05:07:50 PM
Glad they arranged the battle theme, I always had problems with the original composition as some of you might already know.
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Post by: kyuusei on August 23, 2013, 05:58:47 PM
I do like the original, but the new one is great IMO. It'll take some getting used to, but after watching my brother play FFX these last few weeks, I'll welcome the change.
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Post by: Dincrest on August 23, 2013, 06:56:22 PM
Loving the arrangement.  It's like they took an already good headlight on a car, polished up the lens, and now it's bright and clear. 

And, as I said before, FFX still has my favorite (and, IMO, the best) battle system EVER in a Final Fantasy game.  Hopefully one day the series will revisit that engine again. 
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Post by: Giga_Force on August 23, 2013, 07:00:37 PM
The arrangement is "ok". I'm just curious if "Wandering Flame" will be arranged.
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Post by: Dice on August 23, 2013, 07:29:43 PM
I love the remaster version because the melody otherwise bores me to death -- so I'm happy to hear it "spruced up" if nothing else :D

NEED GAME YAY
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Post by: Marshmallow on August 24, 2013, 10:51:11 PM
I like the new arrangement! I still like the old battle theme too, but it's surprising how MIDI-like some of the instruments sound.

I can't wait to add this to my growing collection of portable FF games on my Vita.
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Post by: Lard on August 26, 2013, 12:59:42 AM
Glad they arranged the battle theme, I always had problems with the original composition as some of you might already know.

I thought it was fine.

The new one is a little bit too "spacey" for me.

I really hope this isn't coming out on the 10th. That means I'm *just* going to miss it.
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Post by: Yggdrasil on August 26, 2013, 02:49:00 AM
^Part of the problem that I had with the battle theme is that it never worked as a battle theme for me. Sure is fine, but it doesn't have that sort of intensity that elevates the action of what you are doing at that moment.

I said this on the Random VGM thread, but before hearing the appropriately called "Battle Theme" in Final Fantasy X you hear "Hurry!!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP47cCDOpKY) which is far better and has all of the intensity that the original main battle theme never had.

Also, I have to put this here: "He is big, he is bad, he is your DAD!!!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xfN0RB5hYs)
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Post by: Giga_Force on August 26, 2013, 03:02:35 AM
It infuriates me that people still think Rammstein composed "Otherworld".  I've been a fan of them since 1997, but it sounds nothing like them,lol. They're actually one of my favorite bands from Germany in the Neue Deutsche Härte subgenre.
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Post by: Lard on August 26, 2013, 10:37:55 AM
Rammstein are just a Laibach knockoff anyway.
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Post by: Dice on August 26, 2013, 10:43:03 AM
^Part of the problem that I had with the battle theme is that it never worked as a battle theme for me. Sure is fine, but it doesn't have that sort of intensity that elevates the action of what you are doing at that moment.

I said this on the Random VGM thread, but before hearing the appropriately called "Battle Theme" in Final Fantasy X you hear "Hurry!!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP47cCDOpKY) which is far better and has all of the intensity that the original main battle theme never had.

Also, I have to put this here: "He is big, he is bad, he is your DAD!!!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xfN0RB5hYs)

Yeah, I definitely think that as well.  It sort of stays the same throughout the whole song, I just didn't feel it wasn't a very interesting melody.

Speaking of Rammstein, I love that Enya tends to be over-credited for anything that sounds 'like' her work (iirc, the Gladiator ending was mistakenly attached to her for a while).
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Post by: Dincrest on August 26, 2013, 12:11:57 PM
Otherworld is a song that I feel could have been good, but was not done properly.  The way the song was produced and EQ'd made is sound like mud with too much treble.  In my review of the Final Fantasy Vocal Collection soundtrack, I said this about Otherworld:

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I appreciate the experimentation into heavy metal with "Otherworld", and it goes very well with that first Blitzball scene, but it's not as good a song as it could have been. The main riff is solid, and there is some delightfully dissonant soloing during the bridge and choruses, but the overall tone is too processed and compressed, leading to a somewhat nasal sound. I feel the same way about the guttural, growled vocals. They are so processed and compressed that they sound almost auto-tuned. What I also disliked was that the spoken vocals during the bridge took away from the cool solo that was going on. And do not get me started on the paper-thin lyrics. Metal is one of my favorite genres of music, particularly death metal, and I like my guitars and vocals with a fuller, crisper, and more organic sound. I think the razor-sharp sound of Fear Factory's album "Demanufacture" is what "Otherworld" should have tried for instead of the muddy mess it is.

I did like the Black Mages version of it with the clean female vocal.  Maybe it didn't fit the music as well as a growler would, but it was far preferable to the overly processed growling in the original version where it sounded like an autotuned metalcore vocalist with a paper bag on his head. 
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Post by: Darilon on August 26, 2013, 01:44:15 PM
Otherworld is a song that I feel could have been good, but was not done properly.  The way the song was produced and EQ'd made is sound like mud with too much treble.  In my review of the Final Fantasy Vocal Collection soundtrack, I said this about Otherworld:

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I appreciate the experimentation into heavy metal with "Otherworld", and it goes very well with that first Blitzball scene, but it's not as good a song as it could have been. The main riff is solid, and there is some delightfully dissonant soloing during the bridge and choruses, but the overall tone is too processed and compressed, leading to a somewhat nasal sound. I feel the same way about the guttural, growled vocals. They are so processed and compressed that they sound almost auto-tuned. What I also disliked was that the spoken vocals during the bridge took away from the cool solo that was going on. And do not get me started on the paper-thin lyrics. Metal is one of my favorite genres of music, particularly death metal, and I like my guitars and vocals with a fuller, crisper, and more organic sound. I think the razor-sharp sound of Fear Factory's album "Demanufacture" is what "Otherworld" should have tried for instead of the muddy mess it is.

I did like the Black Mages version of it with the clean female vocal.  Maybe it didn't fit the music as well as a growler would, but it was far preferable to the overly processed growling in the original version where it sounded like an autotuned metalcore vocalist with a paper bag on his head. 

I am on the opposite side of the spectrum. I agree that it went well with the blitzball match in the beginning and I also loved when it played during the boss fight. While I like the Black Mages version I can't see it working in either of those parts of the game.

I do agree with you when it comes to listening to it outside the game though. I felt it fit perfectly with the game but its flaws were more noticeable outside it.
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Post by: Giga_Force on August 26, 2013, 01:53:35 PM
Rammstein are just a Laibach knockoff anyway.

LOL! While true, both bands are amazing :D
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Post by: Lard on August 26, 2013, 02:34:50 PM
Rammstein are just a Laibach knockoff anyway.

LOL! While true, both bands are amazing :D

Yeah, Rammstein are okay. Laibach have a little more wit to them I find.

I did like the Black Mages version of it with the clean female vocal.  Maybe it didn't fit the music as well as a growler would, but it was far preferable to the overly processed growling in the original version where it sounded like an autotuned metalcore vocalist with a paper bag on his head. 

I like the original vocals a lot. The problem I have with it is the drums sound like shit. They should sound really powerful and driving, and they sound like they got a jazz drummer to come in and lightly play for them. It just doesn't fit.
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Post by: Giga_Force on August 26, 2013, 02:50:54 PM
Rammstein are just a Laibach knockoff anyway.

LOL! While true, both bands are amazing :D

Yeah, Rammstein are okay. Laibach have a little more wit to them I find.

I did like the Black Mages version of it with the clean female vocal.  Maybe it didn't fit the music as well as a growler would, but it was far preferable to the overly processed growling in the original version where it sounded like an autotuned metalcore vocalist with a paper bag on his head. 

I like the original vocals a lot. The problem I have with it is the drums sound like shit. They should sound really powerful and driving, and they sound like they got a jazz drummer to come in and lightly play for them. It just doesn't fit.

"Life is Life" is just simply amazing :D
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Post by: Yggdrasil on September 02, 2013, 03:40:05 AM
Rumor: Final Fantasy X|X-2 HD Remaster delayed until 2014 (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/09/rumor-final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-remaster-delayed-until-2014/) -- Source: Nova Crystallis
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Post by: Giga_Force on September 04, 2013, 03:38:29 PM
Rumor: Final Fantasy X|X-2 HD Remaster delayed until 2014 (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/09/rumor-final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-remaster-delayed-until-2014/) -- Source: Nova Crystallis

*Sigh*  Oh well, I have other games to catch up on. 
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Post by: Lard on September 04, 2013, 04:32:35 PM
I would guess they probably don't want to release KH HD and FFX HD at the same time and make people choose.

Makes sense.
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Post by: Giga_Force on September 04, 2013, 05:32:29 PM
Yeah, that does.  Let me go back to my previous opinion on the arranged Battle Theme.  I listened to it some more, and I think I actually prefer it over the original.  I was in a bad mood when I first listened to the arranged version  Is it the entire soundtrack being arranged?  I really want to hear "Wandering Flame" arranged.  My favorite song in the game.  I used to use it as mediation music :P
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Taelus on September 04, 2013, 08:08:23 PM
i JUST CAn't see them releasing this so close to Lightning Returns. Hmm.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Giga_Force on September 05, 2013, 01:16:52 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if this turns out to be true, that we won't see it until the Summer.  It would fit the games theme, though.
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Post by: Yggdrasil on September 05, 2013, 03:35:40 AM
Is it the entire soundtrack being arranged?

"Final Fantasy X will see around 60 of its tracks rearranged for the HD version." -- Nova Crystallis (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/07/newly-arranged-music-coming-to-final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-remaster/)

That's all I found.
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Post by: Lard on September 05, 2013, 03:40:36 AM
i JUST CAn't see them releasing this so close to Lightning Returns. Hmm.

When is that being released? This year or is it releasing in the Feb. deluge?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on September 05, 2013, 03:57:21 AM
When is that being released? This year or is it releasing in the Feb. deluge?

February 11.
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Post by: Lard on September 05, 2013, 06:21:22 PM
So release KH in Sept., FFX in Nov. or Dec. and Lightning Returns in Feb.

That spaces them out nicely.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Giga_Force on September 10, 2013, 05:52:04 PM
Wasn't Final Fantasy X originally released in December, 2001?  It would be cool to see it release this December, for nostalgia sake,lol.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yoda on September 11, 2013, 03:39:59 PM
Is there a cross save thing for the vita versions?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on September 19, 2013, 08:50:25 AM
"Tokyo Game Show will not be the place Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster gets dated, as so many probably hoped it would.

Instead, a new press released issued to us by Square Enix lists the launch date for the PS3 and Vita title as "Winter" instead of their previously touted 2013. Pricing and packaged details remain TBA as well, although we know both X and X-2 will be bundled eventually with custom PS Vita hardware in Japan."
-- Nova Crystallis (http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/09/final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-remaster-will-launch-in-japan-this-winter/)

FINAL FANTASY X/X-2 HD Remaster TGS Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxM_Q8qUStA) -- SQEXMembersNA, YouTube
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Post by: Giga_Force on September 19, 2013, 04:28:51 PM
January 2014 then?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Giga_Force on September 22, 2013, 04:29:37 PM
WOW, that rearranged is amazing :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CjZVJht0U0Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CjZVJht0U0Q)
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Post by: Cyril on September 22, 2013, 11:13:12 PM
Wow!  The remastered track is beautiful.

SE is setting standards for how to properly make a HD version of a game, here.
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Post by: Giga_Force on September 23, 2013, 12:25:47 AM
Seeing how impressive this version is coming along, just makes me want Final Fantasy XII: IZJS HD even more.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on September 28, 2013, 08:50:49 PM
FINAL FANTASY X/X-2 HD Remaster Play Arts -KAI- Promo Pictures (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.209885062521183.1073741868.100004990716473&type=1&l=45ed9f77eb) -- Source: Facebook

Not gonna post the pictures here since you can watch them in better quality in the link.
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Post by: Yggdrasil on October 09, 2013, 11:57:04 PM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/qpktid.jpg)

"PlayStation 3 and PS Vita remaster arrives December 26 in Japan." -- Source: Gematsu (http://gematsu.com/2013/10/final-fantasy-x-x-2-hd-remaster-japanese-release-date-set)

SQUARE ENIX e-STORE (http://store.jp.square-enix.com/special/ffx_x-2HD)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on October 10, 2013, 12:00:05 AM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/qpktid.jpg)

"PlayStation 3 and PS Vita remaster arrives December 26 in Japan." -- Source: Gematsu (http://gematsu.com/2013/10/final-fantasy-x-x-2-hd-remaster-japanese-release-date-set)

SQUARE ENIX e-STORE (http://store.jp.square-enix.com/special/ffx_x-2HD)

The image is a surprisingly lovely remake of the original art...  I'm kinda impressed?

Tidus still looks like Meg Ryan though (them lips... he's too " :3 "). 
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Post by: ULTROS! on October 23, 2013, 10:25:54 PM
New Besaid Island (FFX) music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drw1dfxPaq0

For reference, here's the old one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNycYm5jfXQ
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Post by: Dice on October 23, 2013, 10:49:53 PM
It's like if FF13 as a "musical entity" slapped FFX as a musical entity and that happened.

Not bad.  The original gets to the "point" faster with less musical flourishes (yeah I don't know music terminology -- where's Taelus?).  The violin is nice, but I think a bit of a distraction from the original's mood.  This sounds a lot more romantic almost.
But it's still very, very nice.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yoda on October 23, 2013, 11:10:47 PM
Has anything been said of cross buy/play between the vita and ps3?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Lard on October 23, 2013, 11:48:51 PM
New Besaid Island (FFX) music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drw1dfxPaq0

For reference, here's the old one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNycYm5jfXQ

I liked the old one in this case.... :/
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on October 24, 2013, 12:04:58 AM
New Besaid Island (FFX) music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drw1dfxPaq0

For reference, here's the old one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNycYm5jfXQ

I liked the old one in this case.... :/

At least we can switch. =/
On a second listening, I agree with ya.

Has anything been said of cross buy/play between the vita and ps3?

Google says yes
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Post by: Farron on October 24, 2013, 04:31:49 PM
Cross play seems unlike but I doubt they make it cross buy.
If anything cross play may make people consider buying both versions but so far it seems only sony and some indies have adopted cross buy, which is a shame.
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Post by: Cyril on October 25, 2013, 01:02:31 AM
Eh, in the case of the Besaid theme, I can definitely respect what it does and its quality is undeniable - that beautiful violin section - but I prefer the original.  I'm almost tempted to say there's too much going on in the new one.  I feel like it's the missing the "bubbly" quality in its heavier use of piano.
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Post by: Dincrest on October 25, 2013, 05:17:42 PM
I think I prefer OG Besaid to Nu Besaid.  The violin just doesn't feel as airy, ya know?  I think it's because of all the sustained notes.  The piano not having sustained notes just lets the song breathe more. 
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Post by: AuraChannelerChris on October 25, 2013, 05:48:58 PM
The Besaid Island theme sounds waaaaaaaay slower and mellower than the original sound to me. I liked it faster.
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Post by: Starmongoose on October 25, 2013, 05:57:42 PM
I like it, though I'm not going to accuse anyone who doesn't like it of wearing nostalgia goggles, I hate that argument.
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Post by: Giga_Force on October 27, 2013, 06:51:19 PM
Was it confirmed that you can switch soundtracks in the game?
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Post by: Yoda on October 29, 2013, 12:06:34 AM
I think that was just wishful thinking here.

I can't wait to play this again. I hope the trophies are rad
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Post by: Dincrest on October 29, 2013, 05:01:39 PM
I like it, though I'm not going to accuse anyone who doesn't like it of wearing nostalgia goggles, I hate that argument.

The new version is still a very good piece of music, but it just doesn't have the "breeziness" the old version had, and considering the type of environment Besaid is, the theme should be airy and breezy.  It's like with the FF7 remaster soundtrack I reviewed.  Some of the pieces, while excellent, had a few stylistic choices I wasn't quite feeling, such as sections where notes that ring out were replaced with notes with quick cut-offs, and that just didn't work contextually. 


Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on November 03, 2013, 02:42:44 PM
(http://i40.tinypic.com/4pzi88.png)

Now she kinda looks more like Lulu on Dragon Age: Inquisition.
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Post by: Yggdrasil on November 11, 2013, 09:30:21 AM
from Siliconera:

Final Fantasy X-2 HD Remaster will have International Dresspheres and Creature Creator (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/06/final-fantasy-x-2-hd-remaster-will-international-dresspheres-creature-creator/)

Final Fantasy X's original idea and other reflections from Yoshinori Kitase (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/08/final-fantasy-xs-original-idea-reflections-yoshinori-kitase/)

---

(http://i40.tinypic.com/30i7qm0.png)

Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster screenshots (http://www.allgamesbeta.com/2013/11/final-fantasy-x-x-2-hd-remaster.html) -- All Games Beta
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Post by: Yggdrasil on November 18, 2013, 10:26:27 AM
(http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2013/47/1384766989-ffx-x2-limited-edition-art.jpg)

Release Date(s): March 18 (NA) / March 21 (EU), 2014
Price: $39.99

Details here (http://www.allgamesbeta.com/2013/11/final-fantasy-x-x-2-hd-remaster-saving.html)
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Post by: Dice on November 18, 2013, 10:59:54 AM
Lovely boxart. 

I really hope the "art book" (+game case hybrid) we get is better than the lousy ten-page one we got with Kingdom Hearts HD.
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Post by: Annubis on November 18, 2013, 11:00:08 AM
Final Fantasy X-2 HD Remaster will have International Dresspheres and Creature Creator (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/06/final-fantasy-x-2-hd-remaster-will-international-dresspheres-creature-creator/)

Quote
It’s also possible to capture other Final Fantasy X characters like Tidus, lulu, Kimahri, and even Seymour plus NPCs like Nooj.

How the hell can this even work?
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Post by: Yggdrasil on November 18, 2013, 11:05:33 AM
How the hell can this even work?

I remember you can get Tidus on X-2 International for the Coliseum, or something like that.
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Post by: Annubis on November 18, 2013, 11:16:33 AM
I mean story/world, not mechanics.

Also, capturing pregnant Lulu and forcing her to battle sounds like a complete jerk move.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on November 18, 2013, 11:44:17 AM
I mean story/world, not mechanics.

I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem that they made the Coliseum to have connections with the narrative like it does in XIII-2. It all works from the perspective of mechanics.
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Post by: Dice on November 18, 2013, 11:44:58 AM
I mean story/world, not mechanics.

Also, capturing pregnant Lulu and forcing her to battle sounds like a complete jerk move.

"Pregnant".
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Post by: Rockko on November 18, 2013, 11:47:32 AM
So, Feb-Mar 2014 on PS3 gives us the FFX, FFX-2 Remasters, Lightning Returns, Dark Souls , and South Park: The Stick of Truth. All of which I was looking to pre-order, gonna be a busy month or so. Glad I'm not looking to get a new console or anything... Hell, I've got so much in my backlog that I'm already set for a few years as it is.
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Post by: Yoda on November 18, 2013, 12:02:04 PM
South Park will probably get delayed....AGAIN
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Post by: kyuusei on November 18, 2013, 12:13:51 PM
South Park will probably get delayed....AGAIN

What I was about to say.

Also there's Bravely Default if you want to lump 3DS into that pile. Yikes. Maybe I'll wait even longer for a PS4, that would only add to the backlog.
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Post by: Klutz64 on November 18, 2013, 01:42:57 PM
Already ordered this on Amazon a couple months ago expecting it by the end of the year. Sucks I have to wait so long, but at least I don't have to worry about the financial aspect come March, it will just show up like magic.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Kevadu on November 18, 2013, 02:16:13 PM
They haven't set an exact date yet, but isn't Xillia 2 supposed to be out around then too?

What is it about Feb/March? This time period has been really busy for releases for several years in a row now.  Busier than the holiday season, at least for stuff that interests me...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on November 18, 2013, 02:45:21 PM
They haven't set an exact date yet, but isn't Xillia 2 supposed to be out around then too?

What is it about Feb/March? This time period has been really busy for releases for several years in a row now.  Busier than the holiday season, at least for stuff that interests me...

People getting bored of their holiday games + End of fiscal year around the corner = good time for a sales push.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: AuraChannelerChris on November 18, 2013, 03:42:55 PM
Yeah, about that European trailer for this game? Don't watch it if you're still new to FFX and don't want to know the story's biggest points.

It's RIDDLED TO THE TOP with massive spoilers it's not even funny.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on November 18, 2013, 04:30:31 PM
^ They play a similar trailer in US Gamestops and all I can think is "Seriously!?"
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klyde Chroma on December 16, 2013, 03:50:14 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/12/16/final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-remaster-collectors-edition-announced-north-america/

FFX Squeenix CE.

Yea... what is that like, basically, 30-40 buck extra for an uber-fancy soundtrack? The force is weak with this one for me...

I feel like soundtracks should be a given inclusion for CE's. I want some extra goodies Square... Even your freakin' XIII-3 pocket watch tempts me more than this.
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Post by: Cyril on December 16, 2013, 03:52:10 PM
Eh, I've been buying Soundtracks for years and $30 isn't too bad for a full one.

That said, I already own the original four-disk soundtrack, so there's really no need for me to buy it.  But seriously, I loathe these Digital River exclusives.  I already ranted about this in the LR thread, but ugh. I hate their website.  I suppose it's better than a GameStop exclusive though.
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Post by: Klutz64 on December 16, 2013, 04:00:16 PM
You also don't get the GORGEOUS cover art from the day-one Limited Edition. So yeah, sticking with my Amazon purchase, thanks.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Giga_Force on December 24, 2013, 08:06:04 PM
Eh, I've been buying Soundtracks for years and $30 isn't too bad for a full one.

That said, I already own the original four-disk soundtrack, so there's really no need for me to buy it.  But seriously, I loathe these Digital River exclusives.  I already ranted about this in the LR thread, but ugh. I hate their website.  I suppose it's better than a GameStop exclusive though.

I pre-ordered the Digital River exclusive (I had a horrible time with Ni no Kuni, so I'm taking another risk), but I already own the original soundtrack, but with that Bluray disc, is it possible to rip the re-arranged songs to my PS3 and then transfer them to a flash drive? Or am I just limited to listening to the songs from the disc?  I know with the Journey Collection, you were able to download the soundtrack for fl0w, flower, and Journey to your hard drive; was just wondering if the same thing applied.
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Post by: Dincrest on December 24, 2013, 08:12:21 PM
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/music/sem/page/FFXHD/

Samples of music and tons of them, including lots of arranged stuff for FFX.  Sadly, none of the X-2 tracks got the arrange treatment.  I still think X-2 has one of the more underrated soundtracks out there.  YuRiPa Fight No. 2 is a great battle theme.  The first song on the soundtrack is good too.  I agree with one of my companions that Mitsuto Suzuki could've HD-arranged the X-2 music like a boss.  It deserves some re-treatment.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Cyril on December 24, 2013, 09:43:34 PM
Oh hey, thanks for that.

I feel like a few of the X redone tracks are kind of hit and miss, compared to KH1.5's where I'd give about 90% the superior rating.  They're not bad, per se, but I almost feel like they're trying to convey a different atmosphere all together (like the Blitzball menu prep theme, Inflexible Determination, is a lot less demanding due to less focus on the drum, for example) in some cases.  Other times they get it perfectly.

Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on December 24, 2013, 11:34:36 PM
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/music/sem/page/FFXHD/

Samples of music and tons of them, including lots of arranged stuff for FFX.  Sadly, none of the X-2 tracks got the arrange treatment.  I still think X-2 has one of the more underrated soundtracks out there.  YuRiPa Fight No. 2 is a great battle theme.  The first song on the soundtrack is good too.  I agree with one of my companions that Mitsuto Suzuki could've HD-arranged the X-2 music like a boss.  It deserves some re-treatment.

While I definitely think the OST has a few "misses" (X-2 Besaid is bland as hell to me. the airship theme with a monkey cry too...), I agree for the most part.  I thought it was far more ambitious and I loved some of the atypical sounds coming out of it.  A minor example is how we went from a somewhat "safe" (but catchy) piano theme for the Thunder Plains to the interestingly "tech-y" one featured in X-2.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on December 25, 2013, 03:20:24 AM
Fuck nostalgia. The remastered soundtrack is *vastly* improved over the original.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Parn on December 25, 2013, 05:55:03 AM
Not really, and it's nothing to do with nostalgia.  There is an excessive amount of reverb, and the mixing is really off.  It's like the difference between this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElPq2u74bMk

...versus this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weewaTuUheQ


The new arrangements could sound a lot more like the latter example with some work, which would require time.  But it doesn't.  It mostly sounds like the former example.  Sound levels for instruments are off.  In its current state, it sounds very unpolished.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: blackthirteen on December 25, 2013, 12:35:58 PM
Somehow I would have greatly appreciated the insertion of new dungeons and story chapters to blend smoothly with what we've already played.

Sometimes I find those giant companies so lazy. Maybe it's just me but I don't feel a huge difference with the HD versions. They major reason I'm excited is because I will be able to play it on an handheld system. But well, they'll surely get my money anyway for that collection.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on December 25, 2013, 02:27:49 PM
Not really, and it's nothing to do with nostalgia.  There is an excessive amount of reverb, and the mixing is really off.  It's like the difference between this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElPq2u74bMk

...versus this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weewaTuUheQ


The new arrangements could sound a lot more like the latter example with some work, which would require time.  But it doesn't.  It mostly sounds like the former example.  Sound levels for instruments are off.  In its current state, it sounds very unpolished.

I agree.  I'm not a "music person", so in layman's terms, it sounds like the "instruments" are better ...but the quality of sound and the volume is off.  It still sounds nice, and I do like some of the new liberties taken...  I can still see myself switching up songs a lot mid-game.  x)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on December 25, 2013, 03:46:48 PM
@Parn: Just in case I didn't said that the original soundtrack was terrible, I was never particulary fond of it for the most part. I'm happy with how the remastered version turn it out to be for my own enjoyment and that's that.

I'll see about the point that you mentioned on my own later though.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Cyril on December 25, 2013, 08:28:38 PM
Fuck nostalgia. The remastered soundtrack is *vastly* improved over the original.

How is it nostalgia if I don't even particularly like the original game's soundtrack. . .?  Or the original game, for that matter.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on December 25, 2013, 10:49:55 PM
How is it nostalgia if I don't even particularly like the original game's soundtrack. . .?  Or the original game, for that matter.

What'chu talkin' 'bout, Willis? Is totally cool if you are not into X (and/or X-2), that previous post wasn't directed at anyone in particular.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Cyril on December 25, 2013, 11:52:07 PM
Oh, I see.  My bad.

I do love X-2, though.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on December 26, 2013, 01:51:41 AM
^X-2 is pretty fun, I've always liked it better than X. Overall though I'm not that much into this series of games to be perfectly clear.

Honestly I rather put time in Final Fantasy IX again or get the few trophies I never got in XIII.

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Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster (http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Final%20Fantasy%20X%2FX-2%20HD%20Remaster) -- Twitch

Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster Trophy Sets (spoilers) (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=94661770&postcount=1) -- NeoGAF
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Lard on December 26, 2013, 04:38:07 AM
I agree.  I'm not a "music person", so in layman's terms, it sounds like the "instruments" are better ...but the quality of sound and the volume is off.  It still sounds nice, and I do like some of the new liberties taken...  I can still see myself switching up songs a lot mid-game.  x)

Wait - are both soundtracks included? I got the impression we were just getting the remixed tracks.

Listening to both, I prefer the originals. I can't say why, I just don't find the new ones appealing.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Cyril on December 26, 2013, 04:46:40 AM
Something is very wrong with those trophies.

Why is a Complete the Sphere Grid (one character) a Silver while Completing the Chocobo riding with 0.00.00 a Bronze?

SE has a twisted version of what is "easy."
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: unsmashable_pumpkin on December 26, 2013, 05:36:45 AM
Something is very wrong with those trophies.

Why is a Complete the Sphere Grid (one character) a Silver while Completing the Chocobo riding with 0.00.00 a Bronze?

SE has a twisted version of what is "easy."

Yeah. I hated those blasted sea-gulls and invisible walls with a passion. >_<

I love how getting all the al behd dictionaries are gold, but you don't even get anything for the butterfly hunt or beating all the dark aeons.
Safe to say I will not be doing any of the more obscure bullshit this time around, but kudos to anyone who does decide to platinum this. That's going to take a while.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: AuraChannelerChris on December 26, 2013, 10:59:12 AM
Something is very wrong with those trophies.

Why is a Complete the Sphere Grid (one character) a Silver while Completing the Chocobo riding with 0.00.00 a Bronze?

SE has a twisted version of what is "easy."
Meanwhile, all 26 Al Bhed Primers is a Golden. Wow.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on December 26, 2013, 02:42:04 PM
With release of X/X-2 HD Remaster is hilarious for me to see that there's still fans out there that after 10 years make like X-2 never existed.

Wait - are both soundtracks included?

Probably. For the little I've seen in livestreams I haven't since anyone changing soundtracks, and really it wouldn't be weird if they don't offer the option.

SE has a twisted version of what is "easy."

Not like that's any kind news at this point. More than one person has gone crazy over the years completing Square's RPGs.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on December 27, 2013, 02:31:45 PM
So some fans online are going bananas over the possibility of X-3 being a thing.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Cyril on December 27, 2013, 04:16:03 PM
I think it's less the idea of X-3 that makes people mad, but how terrible the drama CD was and how forced the plot of X-3 is going to be if it is any indication.

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To be honest, I was thinking of being snarky and making a comment about how X-3 already exists as FFVII, but. . .
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on December 27, 2013, 07:36:51 PM
^There would be negativity among some fans either way knowing how this sort of things usually go.

By the way, I'm completely apathetic as I'm writing this so don't get any kind emotion out of what I'm saying in this post.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Eusis on December 27, 2013, 10:16:38 PM
^There would be negativity among some fans either way knowing how this sort of things usually go.

There can be more negativity depending on certain directions, and what I'm hearing is probably the sure fire way to get a fuck load of that venom. Fanfic/shit cash-in movie quality right there.

EDIT: For the record I don't think the idea of FFX-3 is inherently a bad idea, but if that audio drama's any indication it may well be everything I don't want out of an FFX-3.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on December 28, 2013, 12:27:56 AM
I'm not confident with Square Enix's current treatment of the series to want a FFX-3.  And come on!  That'd be a THIRD trek around Spira.  I don't mind sequels for particular titles, but I definitely don't think a "three-quel" for an RPG is better than perhaps something brand-spanking-new.  Unless they set that shit 3000 years in the future and terraform the hell out of the planet....  I don't think third time's a charm for this, hell, it's *barely* working for FF13-3.

I DO approve of more HD titles.
....Yes, I do mean FF9. 

...  Just a thought too.
I'm kinda getting old here, so bare with me.  But as much as I loved the FF15 trailer and gameplay, I then think of it opposite of something like 'The Last of Us'.  You got some hot-shit like Noctis who looks like he stepped out of Naruto,  and he literally has like 40 weapons on the go on one end... and on the other you get Joel who has struggled for 20 years through shit, shit, and more shit.  He's got muscles because of a lifetime of survival, permanent frown lines because he's hold and has probably seen hell, and he looks filthy the rest of the time.

It's probably a bad idea to compare the two, they're obviously completely different contexts and game genres...  But what I mean to say is not much of FF13 really compelled me dramatically as 'The Last of Us' did.  The bit with Sazh was effective enough, certainly the amount of struggle he faced to get his son safe and sound was very sweet.  But then his plot got rehashed, cut up, and had him playing fucking Poker to get him back in 13-2 and god knows what in 13-3.  I'd also say Serah's tale was quite interesting and tragic till they played her between life and death the entire time and it got weird and old (something tells me she'll have more than a few lines in FF13-3 as well because ????). 

FFX-3 sounds just like a bad idea.  The way dubious way Tidus brought back to life in FFX-2 (and even that game's plot in general) really gives me no confidence to create a compelling plot for a third time around.  But, like X-2, if the gameplay is enough and it's good then I'll probably bite....  But still...  I think even that goes so far to create something (as silly as it may sound) "Final Fantasy-worthy".
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on December 28, 2013, 05:06:34 AM
^Playing The Last of Us a bunch times only made me appreciate Resident Evil 4 even more in the end.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Starmongoose on December 28, 2013, 06:53:18 AM

By the way, I'm completely apathetic as I'm writing this so don't get any kind emotion out of what I'm saying in this post.

You should put that in your signature. :P
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Sagacious-T on December 28, 2013, 10:55:04 AM
sry to be the broken record here but do any of the releases of this have dual audio?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on December 28, 2013, 12:00:32 PM
You should put that in your signature. :P

(http://i.imgur.com/seh6p.gif)

sry to be the broken record here but do any of the releases of this have dual audio?

"Unfortunately for those who wanted Final Fantasy X and X-2 HD with Japanese voices, it will not be available to them. Vita games will have region-specific voice acting due to its ROM capacity."
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on December 28, 2013, 07:43:05 PM
Everyone I know interested in this game only ever talks about the Vita version, but I'm completely skipping those for the PS3 version. I know the Vita screen is amazing and the game will look just fine, but I'd much rather play FFX on the big screnn
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on December 29, 2013, 02:04:30 AM
Everyone I know interested in this game only ever talks about the Vita version

They gotta get something to play
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Kevadu on December 29, 2013, 02:23:45 AM
They gotta get something to play

You've been making a lot of snarky Vita comments lately, Dice.  What's up with that?

I'll have you know my Vita backlog is rivaling my PS3 backlog...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Eusis on December 29, 2013, 04:02:08 AM
Everyone I know interested in this game only ever talks about the Vita version

They gotta get something to play

They'll have Conception II before it comes out.

I'm not sure whether that's a good or bad thing.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Andrew on December 29, 2013, 05:05:21 AM
I'm not sure whether that's a good or bad thing.

It's both at once and more.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Ranadiel on December 29, 2013, 08:42:37 AM
Everyone I know interested in this game only ever talks about the Vita version

They gotta get something to play

They'll have Conception II before it comes out.

I'm not sure whether that's a good or bad thing.
It goes beyond the concepts of good and bad into the territory of amazing.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: blackthirteen on December 29, 2013, 01:24:45 PM
Everyone I know interested in this game only ever talks about the Vita version

We've already played FFX on a big screen, I think it makes sense the game will feel newer on an handheld system. I don't think the graphics are that much improved to make the PS3 release that interesting (even if it's nice anyway).
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Eusis on December 29, 2013, 06:37:52 PM
I'm not sure whether that's a good or bad thing.

It's both at once and more.

I was ready to write the whole thing off, but then I found out the first game was kind of a bait and switch in that it ended up mocking the very audience you'd think it was being sold to primarily, and I guess this one might actually have a pretty good story? Though that still depends on the gameplay being good, and at any rate this is something of a derail.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Kevadu on December 29, 2013, 08:21:51 PM
Yay derails.

I only ever played a demo of the first Conception but it did not impress gameplay-wise.  Still, everything I've read about Conception II seems to indicate that it brought some pretty big improvements to the gameplay.  It's gotten rather high reviews, in fact.  I'm actually kind of excited for it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Lard on December 29, 2013, 08:57:50 PM
Everyone I know interested in this game only ever talks about the Vita version, but I'm completely skipping those for the PS3 version. I know the Vita screen is amazing and the game will look just fine, but I'd much rather play FFX on the big screen

I actually saw the Japanese version for sale in Seoul, and I was somewhat tempted to grab it because I already know the story.
Either way, I'm waiting for the big screen version like you. I didn't get an HD monitor for nothing!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Lard on January 08, 2014, 12:06:48 AM
Just thinking out the X/X2 remasters and wondering what the chances are we're going to a remaster of 13 1-3 for PS4/XBO while they're working on FF15?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on January 08, 2014, 09:36:22 AM
Just thinking out the X/X2 remasters and wondering what the chances are we're going to a remaster of 13 1-3 for PS4/XBO while they're working on FF15?

I want Square Enix computers with FF13 data to be buried in a deep hole and remembered never so they can start fresh.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on January 08, 2014, 01:41:43 PM
I wonder if the deep hate/annoyance people have showed online with the XIII series is gonna last as long as the complaining about Final Fantasy VIII and X-2 has (which is something I always find pretty amazing).

I'm past the point of taking "The endless battle on forums and gaming sites about how much FF/SQEX sucks nowadays and how FFVI was the best game ever, or whatever" seriously anymore. I still enjoy my time with the mainline series and that's enough for me.

I want Square Enix computers with FF13 data to be buried in a deep hole and remembered never so they can start fresh.

Well that sort of happened with some of the earlier Kingdom Hearts games and that didn't stop them to do a remastered version of those titles for PS3.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on January 08, 2014, 02:42:36 PM
EDIT: (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqejceGstV1qglb4yo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Annubis on January 08, 2014, 02:45:10 PM
WONDERFUL!

Come on, play nice Dice.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on January 08, 2014, 02:50:04 PM

Come on, play nice Dice.

I edited it out before your qoute brought it back. xP
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on January 08, 2014, 02:55:36 PM
Even though this thread is way off topic, I would like to say something about why I like FFXIII since Dice brought it up.

I see it less as an RPG and more as it's own beast. The "dungeons" are more like stages in a platformer or FPS with RPG elements and all the post-game elements the extra challenge missions or whatever. This way the developers could design each encounter to be less of a random annoyance and more of an obstacle to get past. Each battle brought a new set of challenges and were tailored to be increasingly more difficult as you made your way through that particular area and throughout the game as a whole.

In summary, and said much better by other people on the Internet, I thought FFXIII was a below average Final Fantasy, but a fantastic game.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Darilon on January 08, 2014, 02:56:00 PM
I actually had a lot of fun with both FFXIII games. Please dont judge me
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Starmongoose on January 08, 2014, 03:01:04 PM
I don't judge anyone who likes FFXIII. Though I have a feeling they judge me plenty for not liking it. :P
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on January 08, 2014, 03:02:23 PM
I don't judge anyone who likes FFXIII. Though I have a feeling they judge me plenty for not liking it. :P

Considering my hatred of hypocrisy, if I judged anyone for their tastes in video games I think I would have been lynched by now.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Annubis on January 08, 2014, 03:04:07 PM

Come on, play nice Dice.

I edited it out before your qoute brought it back. xP

I got your back.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on January 08, 2014, 03:05:25 PM
I actually had a lot of fun with both FFXIII games. Please dont judge me

Oh they're fun, lots of fun. Just FAR from classics that I think the way the series has otherwise been known for.  
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on January 08, 2014, 03:12:16 PM
This is just adorable. :3

I don't condemn your opinion Dice (yeah I saw the post before it got edited), you have every right to feel like that with the XIII series. But seriously the criticism got pretty ridiculous a long time ago. Not that I'm saying that XIII is the best or anything like that, but the fact that you can't say online in a bunch of sites that you enjoy this series of games without someone coming and saying that you are moron with no standards is silly to say the least.

I mean, a few years ago I got my problems with DmC: Devil May Cry but nowadays I really don't care. The game didn't meet expectations and the repercussion that left on the fanbase was messy but despite that there were people who like that game a lot and is totally cool with me since my problems with DmC at the time came from how Capcom, Ninja Theory and a lot of the press handle the whole deal so poorly and with no care at all going as far as insulting the original fans of DMC in more than one occasion.

---

I see that nobody has talked here yet about the faces of the remastered version of FFX/X-2 HD.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on January 08, 2014, 03:23:23 PM
I said they're fun, the music is very good, the graphics are also phenomenal (except for NPCs.in LR).

Traveling is a drag, the characters are forgettable and pretentious, and if you like the story I think you'd also like the quality of writing seen in reality television and fan fiction by 16 year olds.  Serah probably won't stay dead, or at least she seems to have just as many lines and plot relevance as she did in at least the first game (anyone else especially happy that Aeris was never brought back to life?), and the epilogue spoilers and enemies don't have me very hopeful that "the third time's a charm". It's an entertaining plot, but I don't think I can call it well written...
On a positive note, I'll at least thankfully add that Square has learned to make the gameplay more interesting with each title.

But dear God, the series has been around too long... I'm kinda just sick of hearing about "FF13 news and updates" every week or so.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on January 08, 2014, 03:34:59 PM
In reference to your comments about the story, are you referring to both games, because I enjoyed both the writing and story in the first game. It wasn't a literary masterpiece, but it was more enjoyable than what I can usually expect in a JRPG, and not the worst story in the Final Fantasy series, either.

Sorry, but adding a personal insult to people who don't agree with your opinion seems a bit opposite your criticisms of Yggdrasil's attitude Dice.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Darilon on January 08, 2014, 03:40:28 PM
In reference to your comments about the story, are you referring to both games, because I enjoyed both the writing and story in the first game. It wasn't a literary masterpiece, but it was more enjoyable than what I can usually expect in a JRPG, and not the worst story in the Final Fantasy series, either.

I also liked the story in the first game. Can't really say the same about the second though. That goes on the same level as FF X-2 for me with fun gameplay and... has a story.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on January 08, 2014, 03:45:14 PM
if you like the story I think you'd also like the quality of writing seen in reality television and fan fiction by 16 year olds.

I don't like either of those. :v I've always said that I have enjoyed the story and that it took me a while for me to click with me, not that I loved it. At best I could say that I appreciate that they had the balls to present the narrative the way they did.

Keep fighting the good fight though.

But dear God, the series has been around too long... I'm kinda just sick of hearing about "FF13 news and updates" every week or so.

I expect more or less the same happening with XV online personally since is said to be a series like X and XIII too.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Datastorm on February 20, 2014, 06:52:41 PM
Pre-ordered this today along with the guide, will be a nice addition  to our collection and will be fun to play all over again...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Starmongoose on February 20, 2014, 07:07:10 PM
I've wanted to replay FFX for about a month now, but have refrained because I know how close the HD version is to being released. D: Torture.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Ashton on February 20, 2014, 07:19:32 PM
I've wanted to replay FFX for about a month now, but have refrained because I know how close the HD version is to being released. D: Torture.
Yeah, same here. Can't wait!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Blace on February 20, 2014, 07:55:30 PM
Pre-ordered this today along with the guide, will be a nice addition  to our collection and will be fun to play all over again...

I didn't even think about pre-ordering the guide. Since this is my favorite game ever, I went ahead and pre-ordered the guide with the game now. Thanks! lol
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on February 20, 2014, 08:12:20 PM
Between this and Symphonia HD, I feel like I'm just playing the same titles I did 10 years ago... yay nostalgia!

Eugh, I am kind of dreading the Case/Artbook hybrid if they're doing that again.... that KH bundle pack-thing was gross.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on February 20, 2014, 08:34:37 PM
I've had this game on preorder on Amazon since last summer, and now it's less than four weeks away. Also, I started replaying this a week before they revealed the project over 2 years ago. I put it on hold then thinking there was no way it would take this long to make. So to say the anticipation is killing me wouldn't be too far from the truth.

I do have a question for those of you that have already played the International Version: Does the expert sphere grid have the same nodes as the regular sphere grid but in a different order, or does it make it harder overall to develop the characters to ridiculous lengths?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Blace on February 21, 2014, 09:58:01 AM
Between this and Symphonia HD, I feel like I'm just playing the same titles I did 10 years ago... yay nostalgia!

Eugh, I am kind of dreading the Case/Artbook hybrid if they're doing that again.... that KH bundle pack-thing was gross.

I have a feeling it will be the same type of case and I agree that was awful packaging. I was disappointed.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Starmongoose on February 21, 2014, 10:05:01 AM
If I remember correctly (its been years since I played FFX) It doesn't make it harder, it just doesn't limit characters to certain classes.

For example: Lulu could more easily make the jump to Auron's more Knight-like abilities early in the game. In the end, you will probably have a mish-mash of different characters skills/abilities.

Basically it's like everyone is Kimahri and Kimahri is still pointless. (Hehe, not really but I couldn't resist that joke)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on February 21, 2014, 12:46:29 PM
Basically it's like everyone is Kimahri and Kimahri is still pointless. (Hehe, not really but I couldn't resist that joke)

The battle where it's him alone was the worst for me.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dincrest on February 23, 2014, 10:21:52 AM
Basically it's like everyone is Kimahri and Kimahri is still pointless. (Hehe, not really but I couldn't resist that joke)

The battle where it's him alone was the worst for me.


And the kicker is that a Gameshark actually makes that battle a million times longer, more tedious, and potentially more difficult. 
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Holykael1 on February 23, 2014, 10:38:30 AM
Next month will be insane, Ill be getting LR:FF XIII to wrap up the trilogy, FF X/X-2 HD for PS3 because it's one of my favourite games ever, Metal Gear Legacy so I can play Peace Walker(it's the only metal gear game I havent played) on an HDTV and get that done in preparation for Ground Zeroes and then buy MGS V Ground Zeroes. Looking forward to finally playing this game in it's 60 hz borderless glory.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: DPB on February 23, 2014, 06:20:16 PM

I do have a question for those of you that have already played the International Version: Does the expert sphere grid have the same nodes as the regular sphere grid but in a different order, or does it make it harder overall to develop the characters to ridiculous lengths?

Like Starmongoose said, as far as I can remember it just gives you more options, you can still develop them the way they were originally intended.

The main difference with the International Version is the stupid near-impossible Dark Aeons blocking off areas you might want to go back to near the end of the game.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Back2Basics on March 10, 2014, 01:37:17 AM
cant wait for this!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Blace on March 10, 2014, 02:06:29 PM
I mean they are rather pointless because the games in this collection are old and already have separate reviews of their own from their original release, but the reviews of this have been very positive so far. Can't wait till next week. Why did my spring break have to be this week?!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Lard on March 10, 2014, 08:37:09 PM
I'm still confused about whether the soundtrack is original + remixed and lets you choose or whether it's remixed only.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on March 10, 2014, 08:40:14 PM
I'm still confused about whether the soundtrack is original + remixed and lets you choose or whether it's remixed only.

I've heard 'no'. :(

I'm gonna be liking Besaid Island a whole lot less now.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on March 11, 2014, 12:57:04 AM
^As far I've seen in livestreams you can't choose between soundtracks.

Also I'm not gonna bother with these two games. I enjoy them in their time but I have too many problems with both games to play them again. Besides, there's this thing called Dark Souls II coming out and you know as a fan of the Souls series duty calls.

That said, have all the fun I can't get from X and X-2 nowadays for me guys!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Lard on March 11, 2014, 05:52:50 AM
It's a real drag about the soundtracks but I've never played FFX-2, and I really enjoyed X, so being able to play these over here without lugging out a PS2 is really nice.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: ultra7k on March 13, 2014, 02:03:00 PM
Wasn't really interested in getting this at first, but now I sort of am.

The only question is, PS3 or Vita...

Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Blace on March 13, 2014, 02:39:52 PM
Wasn't really interested in getting this at first, but now I sort of am.

The only question is, PS3 or Vita...



If you are me... both haha. I have to be able to play on my vita when my fiance wants the TV (which is fine) and then be able to play it on the TV when she is gone or doing something else.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Bleaker on March 13, 2014, 04:56:03 PM
Bad news about the Vita version, only FFX is on the cartridge, so you have to download FFX-2 separately. I really would have liked to have gotten it on my Vita, but the fact is that I still just have a 4 gb harddrive, and I don't feel like upgrading because they couldn't spend the money on an extra cartridge. PS3 version it is then, whenever I feel like I need to actually play Final Fantasy X. Spoony's videos kind of turned me off of the game.   
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Blace on March 13, 2014, 05:00:05 PM
Yeah it does kind of suck that X-2 is download only for Vita, but luckily I just bought my Vita and an 8GB memory card today so I should be fine.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Kevadu on March 13, 2014, 05:08:46 PM
Vita game cards max out at 4GB so there's no way they could have fit both games on one card.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on March 13, 2014, 07:33:08 PM
Spoony's videos kind of turned me off of the game.

I would never take anything he says about most games all that seriously personally. His best stuff was when he talked about the Ultima series and some of his playthroughs, like SWAT 4 and Phantasmagoria: A Puzzle of Flesh.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on March 13, 2014, 07:46:29 PM
Bad news about the Vita version, only FFX is on the cartridge, so you have to download FFX-2 separately. I really would have liked to have gotten it on my Vita, but the fact is that I still just have a 4 gb harddrive, and I don't feel like upgrading because they couldn't spend the money on an extra cartridge. PS3 version it is then, whenever I feel like I need to actually play Final Fantasy X. Spoony's videos kind of turned me off of the game.   

Spoony annoys me.  It's one thing to criticize, but the guy doesn't have enough content for the time slot he gives himself and makes a lot of empty points that can be applied to a lot of games on the principle of being games.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on March 14, 2014, 02:21:44 PM
Good News: I not only have Tuesday off, but Sunday off as well (I normally work every Sunday), so I have no work days between now and when the game releases.

Bad News: I figured with my free 2-day shipping Amazon would ship the game tomorrow and I'd receive it on Tuesday. However, a friend reminded me they wouldn't ship on a Saturday--and holy crap just had a deja vu moment typing that--so it would most likely ship today. And since I haven't heard anything yet, I'm starting to worry a little bit.

I've never been this anxious for a game to come out, and for an HD port nonetheless!
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Post by: Dice on March 15, 2014, 02:30:11 PM
Thanks to an awesome boyfriend, I have game and Atelier Eschatology.

Final Fantasy X HD - Impressions

= God Tidus starts as such a wiener.  Certainly the sub-par voice direction and general scene planning (which is very wooden) isn't helping anything at all.  Like Brother grunting his way to explain things is more ape than man, or Auron acting so cool it comes off as occasionally hammy.  However ---

= Graphically, and the HD bits aside, the game has aged very well and it's kinda hard to believe the game came out as early in the 2000s as it did.  In terms of how that translates for new players or even old I'm sure as different for everyone. 

= Which reminds me.  The best thing this game did was prompting the battle menu RIGHT AFTER an enemy attacks (you don't have to wait for them to go back to their idle positions) making quick fights a literal volley of attacks.  So it's aged well too, mostly because it was so perfect before.  And a helluva nice change up from the snails-paced FF8 and 9 battle systems....*groan*

= I love how strange and hazy the beginning segment is

= Honestly, I've barely noticed the OST changes. Maybe the initial tracks don't vary too much from the original right now.  But right now, paired with the rest of the sights and sounds and furies, it's ok.

= I *love* the new Menu!  GOD I HATED THE OLD PS2 ONE; what the hell was all the stuff on it?  Some random water band?  Giant PlayOnline logo and website? And two versions of "Final Fantasy X" written out?!  Hideous.
(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120214175553/finalfantasy/images/archive/0/04/20130211080113!Final-fantasy-x-international-title-screen.png)
It *still* has the two FF's written out (why?), but now the water band moves and all that PlayOnline garbage is gone.  But also, I love the added textures here and in the actual menu screen.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on March 15, 2014, 04:52:34 PM
I sort of kind of hate you right now, Dice. Don't take it personally.

And yeah, that PS2 title screen is just so awkward looking. I plan on playing the first hour or so of the PS2 version on Monday so the differences will be immediately apparent.
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Post by: Lard on March 17, 2014, 12:41:34 AM
I really want to play this, but I bet it's going to be ages before I find it over here. :(
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: kofvscapcom on March 17, 2014, 01:33:48 AM
Just hope skipping cutscenes no longer lower your % completion in X-2, I've never been good at sitting through cutscenes I've already seen before.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on March 17, 2014, 10:36:21 AM
I sort of kind of hate you right now, Dice. Don't take it personally.

And yeah, that PS2 title screen is just so awkward looking. I plan on playing the first hour or so of the PS2 version on Monday so the differences will be immediately apparent.

Honestly, don't. 

With the pace I play things these days, you'll be 100% done FFX-2 before I get through Act 1 of the game. :(

Just hope skipping cutscenes no longer lower your % completion in X-2, I've never been good at sitting through cutscenes I've already seen before.

Something tells me they didn't care.  At the very least, I'd be more surprised if they did add in that feature.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on March 18, 2014, 06:45:51 PM
^ I was only jesting anyway~

Initial Impressions:

Deciding to play the first hour or so of the original last night was one of my rare good ideas. The differences immediately blew me away. This is hands down the most gorgeous HD remaster I've seen yet. I'm absolutely in love with the new AI, and the music is all pretty good (except when they overdo the instrumentation, like with the victory theme). The expert sphere grid combined with how long ago I last played the game kind of makes this a little bit of a new experience for me. When browsing the grid, I had to wonder if some of the abilities were new to the International Edition or if I just don't remember them because they were hardly put to use.

There are a few minor issues I have with the game. First, saving defaults to a new save file. I didn't like this about the original Final Fantasy XIII either. If I'm tired and looking for a save point, I'll just button mash my way through and end up with way more save files than I want or need. Secondly, Tidus' new douse of Mako is a bit distracting, especially in close-up cutscenes. And last, the volume difference between in-game cutscenes and rendered ones is much bigger.

When starting the game, I recommend just taking a moment to appreciate the amazing backgrounds in Zanarkand. Holy wow is this game beautiful.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on March 18, 2014, 08:54:11 PM
Anyone else get a good laugh at Tidus at the beginning when he's trying to bat away alien monsters with his bare hand like they're tiny insects?  Then he falls down. 
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on March 18, 2014, 08:57:03 PM
Anyone else get a good laugh at Tidus at the beginning when he's trying to bat away alien monsters with his bare hand like they're tiny insects?  Then he falls down. 


I like that instead of adhering to the "JRPG opens with main character waking up" trope, they decided to go with "JRPG opens with main character waking up 6 times in a row"

EDIT: Just turned around to see the XMB Splash Screen for this game, and it's kind of awesome.

EDIT 2: Post 1111 hehe
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Post by: Blace on March 18, 2014, 08:58:08 PM
So when does the X-2 vita code work? I just tried mine and it still isn't working and I know I'm putting it in correctly.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on March 18, 2014, 08:59:08 PM
Anyone else get a good laugh at Tidus at the beginning when he's trying to bat away alien monsters with his bare hand like they're tiny insects?  Then he falls down. 


I like that instead of adhering to the "JRPG opens with main character waking up" trope, they decided to go with "JRPG opens with main character waking up 6 times in a row"

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Honestly should have saw the ending coming after that hallucinogenic opening.
I actually kinda like the air of mystery that lingers around the whole event. Other parts of the plot are pretty odd or dubiously made -- but I liked that one.

Ah well, who knows, maybe Christopher Nolan borrowed this and put it in Inception.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Deufo on March 19, 2014, 12:12:17 AM
Hm... I can buy this game for my Vita and renew my Ps Plus... Or i can eat for the rest of the month...

I've already beaten the PS2 version of X for PS2, but i've never beaten X-2 (not sure if it's worth it though). Meh, what the heck, there are only 12 days of this month left.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Cyril on March 19, 2014, 12:18:52 AM
Who needs to eat?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on March 19, 2014, 12:27:24 AM
Who needs to eat?

Buy diet pills, you'll only need one small meal a day!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Deufo on March 19, 2014, 12:48:05 AM
Well, as my friend said "If you're not already on a diet made exclusively of instant noodles, go ahead and buy the game".

Will probably buy it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on March 19, 2014, 01:03:55 AM
Well, as my friend said "If you're not already on a diet made exclusively of instant noodles, go ahead and buy the game".

Will probably buy it tomorrow.

That's the spirit!!

I put on FFX-2.... just to listen to that opening credit music and video (http://youtu.be/3sVvxJG1Ydc).  For an otherwise tacky game, the opening and visuals are extremely tasteful. 
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Post by: Taelus on March 19, 2014, 01:15:31 AM
I want to buy these but I'm already buying Reaper of Souls and InFamous hnngh
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on March 19, 2014, 05:42:49 AM
I put on FFX-2.... just to listen to that opening credit music and video (http://youtu.be/3sVvxJG1Ydc).  For an otherwise tacky game, the opening and visuals are extremely tasteful. 

I swear everyone that has had or still has a grudge with X-2 say the same thing. I've been practically reading the same post from different people for years now. xD
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Blace on March 19, 2014, 09:05:54 AM
Played a couple hours of FFX on the Vita last night and the visuals were gorgeous! I thought I wouldn't like some of the new song arrangements, but with my headphones in they actually sounded great. I will be switching over to the PS3 tonight to see if there's any differences. Finally got my X-2 Vita code to work too.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Klutz64 on March 19, 2014, 09:49:31 AM
I want to buy these but I'm already buying Reaper of Souls and InFamous hnngh

Last month I picked up Bravely Default, Lightning Returns and Professor Layton. This month I'm getting FFX/X-2, Reaper of Souls, and Witch and the Hundred Knight. Terrible financial decision, but I convinced myself to do it since there are really only 3 other games I want for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Haven on March 19, 2014, 10:02:55 AM

  It kinda sucks there  is no cross play. I grabbed it on the PS3 so my wife and I could play through it together. We met and starting playing FFXI and WoW and she never really played through a single player RPG. I thought this would be a solid first game. 23G download was a shock. Is that uncompressed audio for both games?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Blace on March 19, 2014, 10:07:54 AM

  It kinda sucks there  is no cross play. I grabbed it on the PS3 so my wife and I could play through it together. We met and starting playing FFXI and WoW and she never really played through a single player RPG. I thought this would be a solid first game. 23G download was a shock. Is that uncompressed audio for both games?

What do you mean there's no cross play? You can switch between the Vita and PS3 versions if you buy both copies. Are you meaning something else?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Zendervai on March 19, 2014, 10:25:35 AM
Sorry, wrong thread.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Haven on March 19, 2014, 11:11:50 AM

  It kinda sucks there  is no cross play. I grabbed it on the PS3 so my wife and I could play through it together. We met and starting playing FFXI and WoW and she never really played through a single player RPG. I thought this would be a solid first game. 23G download was a shock. Is that uncompressed audio for both games?

What do you mean there's no cross play? You can switch between the Vita and PS3 versions if you buy both copies. Are you meaning something else?

 Sorry, I meant cross buy. It sucks having to buy it twice. Game looks amazing and I want 12 done like this, so I may just buy it twice.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on March 19, 2014, 11:28:03 AM
I put on FFX-2.... just to listen to that opening credit music and video (http://youtu.be/3sVvxJG1Ydc).  For an otherwise tacky game, the opening and visuals are extremely tasteful. 

I swear everyone that has had or still has a grudge with X-2 say the same thing. I've been practically reading the same post from different people for years now. xD

I think the plot is silly, but I think it's also almost unanimous that the battle system is adored as well.
It being tacky is hard to argue against when you see the 'quality' of the hot spring scene haha
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Post by: Annubis on March 19, 2014, 11:44:40 AM
It being tacky is hard to argue against when you see the 'quality' of the hot spring scene haha

That massage minigame... had to mute the TV due to embarrassment.
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Post by: Starmongoose on March 19, 2014, 11:53:40 AM
It being tacky is hard to argue against when you see the 'quality' of the hot spring scene haha

That massage minigame... had to mute the TV due to embarrassment.

I was far too oblivious as a child when I was playing that scene. I now understand why my mother asked me what I was doing.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on March 19, 2014, 01:23:03 PM
love it

I've had the reactions before too
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Post by: Klutz64 on March 19, 2014, 02:02:39 PM
It is pretty hard to argue about FFX-2's horrendous presentation. The game is great when you look past that, but when you combine FFX's sub par writing with fanservice sleaze, even the best story in the world won't save that combination.

I do disagree with a couple of the detractors who dislike the endings though. I actually liked them all, particularly the "Good but not perfect" ending. Call me a sucker for happily ever after kitsch.
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Post by: Starmongoose on March 19, 2014, 02:13:24 PM
love it

I've had the reactions before too

Why did you edit a seemingly innocuous post? :P
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Post by: Yggdrasil on March 19, 2014, 02:14:02 PM
I think the plot is silly, but I think it's also almost unanimous that the battle system is adored as well.
It being tacky is hard to argue against when you see the 'quality' of the hot spring scene haha

I didn't mind any of the fanservice and playful tone of the story or how it was presented. After how dense X was it was nice changing the tone for something different IMO.

And for as long as I've seen people complaining about what X-2 isn't, I'd say is pretty fun for betraying whatever expectations some fans had for a sequel to X.

That massage minigame... had to mute the TV due to embarrassment.

There is a long story of Western players feeling ashamed with Japanese games. Screw your sensibilities, just embrace the madness. :)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on March 19, 2014, 02:36:08 PM
love it

I've had the reactions before too

Why did you edit a seemingly innocuous post? :P

... >_>
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I feel like I yak too much
I think the plot is silly, but I think it's also almost unanimous that the battle system is adored as well.
It being tacky is hard to argue against when you see the 'quality' of the hot spring scene haha

I didn't mind any of the fanservice and playful tone of the story or how it was presented. After how dense X was it was nice changing the tone for something different IMO.

And for as long as I've seen people complaining about what X-2 isn't, I'd say is pretty fun for betraying whatever expectations some fans had for a sequel to X.

That massage minigame... had to mute the TV due to embarrassment.

There is a long story of Western players feeling ashamed with Japanese games. Screw your sensibilities, just embrace the madness. :)

With respect to the second half, I get it, but I think it's more just the style just isn't for me.  Moaning and risqué massages?  It's fanservice and trying too hard to be funny and sexy and coming off more awkward since, being a game, I gotta to it to progress the story.  I don't doubt that there's an audience for it -- it just isn't me.  The rest of the gameplay is swell though.

And also, it was nice seeing Yuna break out of her more 'lovely and frail flower' demeanour from the first game and to actually see her running around.  TAKE THAT WHITE MAGE TROPE.  And I loved being able to travel more freely not have to travel up and down Spira again.

As for the first half, I have no problems with a lighter tone... But along with what Klutz was saying, I just found it unnaturally acted and poorly scripted that it didn't, again, do much for me.  It felt like girls pretending to be girly and coming off kinda wooden. x)
I love the idea of it, and I'd always advocate some "gurl power' in games.  And by no means am I bashing the title as a whole -- because I actually don't hate it at all.

@Klutz Yeah I had no problem with the super-happy-wonderful ending.  For any amount of grief an MC goes through I like when they're rewarded for the efforts than punished with a sad/bad ending.  I actually really get bugged out by sad endings.
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Post by: Datastorm on March 19, 2014, 09:39:23 PM
Hello

Say we're having a strange issue with the X-2 game. Been playing X on my original ps3 just fine, everything is working great. My wife wanted to try X-2 tonight as she never played it. Put the disc in the slim ps3 that we have on our home theater and went to launch X-2 and got this trophy initialization error, please exit game message, which I've never seen before. Tried it a couple of times.

Took this disc back on my original release ps3 and got the same message there too on the X-2 game. Anybody know what the heck is going on there?

Thanks
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Post by: Blace on March 20, 2014, 09:53:22 AM
Those errors are the worst and usually require completely restoring your system after backing up your hard drive.

Here's a helpful link:

http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-3-Support/How-to-fix-a-80022D86-error-amp-trophy-Sync-issue-on-the-PS3/td-p/42407223
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Datastorm on March 20, 2014, 05:42:01 PM
Those errors are the worst and usually require completely restoring your system after backing up your hard drive.

Here's a helpful link:

http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-3-Support/How-to-fix-a-80022D86-error-amp-trophy-Sync-issue-on-the-PS3/td-p/42407223

I read through all that but the error that I was getting on both consoles doesn't really match any of those and heres the really weird thing, somebody else was having this exact same issue in this thread. I'm xlorthosx on there....and I tried washing the disc and it worked lol

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/643146-final-fantasy-x-x-2-hd-remaster/68825163

Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Blace on March 20, 2014, 08:50:52 PM
Wow that is crazy. Glad it worked. Hope that doesn't happen to me, but I won't get to X-2 for awhile haha.

Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on March 25, 2014, 11:54:22 PM
The ART OF FINAL FANTASY X/X-2: Live Art Demonstration by Yusuke Naora (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRJtzsVRpfY) - SQEXMembersNA, YouTube

(http://i58.tinypic.com/11gleuw.png)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on March 26, 2014, 01:37:12 PM
The ART OF FINAL FANTASY X/X-2: Live Art Demonstration by Yusuke Naora (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRJtzsVRpfY) - SQEXMembersNA, YouTube

(http://i58.tinypic.com/11gleuw.png)

^ Damn that's a nice image.  Wish they had the time[?] to use it for official release propaganda.

So.  Did anyone listen to the 30 minute audio drama?  Anyone else kinda like it then kinda go "aaaugh"?  I was also stupidly amused by how everyone's voices had changed since the in-game audio was done (that's all 10+ years old now). x)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Blace on March 26, 2014, 01:55:20 PM
I haven't listened to it yet. Kind of wanted to wait till I finished FFX since it takes place after correct?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on March 26, 2014, 02:07:58 PM
I haven't listened to it yet. Kind of wanted to wait till I finished FFX since it takes place after correct?

FFX
Eternal Calm Chapter
FFX-2
Audio Drama!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: AuraChannelerChris on March 26, 2014, 02:08:50 PM
You should all read the story the writer wrote before the events of the audio drama.

It goes something like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/xoGV64H.gif)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Blace on March 26, 2014, 02:17:24 PM
I haven't listened to it yet. Kind of wanted to wait till I finished FFX since it takes place after correct?

FFX
Eternal Calm Chapter
FFX-2
Audio Drama!

Sweet, thanks!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on March 26, 2014, 02:19:11 PM
You should all read the story the writer wrote before the events of the audio drama.

It goes something like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/xoGV64H.gif)

Um, elaborate. x)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: AuraChannelerChris on March 26, 2014, 03:47:37 PM
You should all read the story the writer wrote before the events of the audio drama.

It goes something like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/xoGV64H.gif)

Um, elaborate. x)
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/84750196.html

Read that if you want to know the full details.

But to summarize things...

Tidus and Yuna get stranded on an island together.

Tidus finds a "blitzball" and kicks it out of boredom.

The writer suddenly makes the scene so random and tragic by pointing out that Tidus actually kicked a bomb and died in the explosion. Yuna cries when Tidus's head falls to her side with a frozen look of shock.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Elegance on March 26, 2014, 04:14:59 PM
You should all read the story the writer wrote before the events of the audio drama.

It goes something like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/xoGV64H.gif)

Um, elaborate. x)
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/84750196.html

Read that if you want to know the full details.

But to summarize things...

Tidus and Yuna get stranded on an island together.

Tidus finds a "blitzball" and kicks it out of boredom.

The writer suddenly makes the scene so random and tragic by pointing out that Tidus actually kicked a bomb and died in the explosion. Yuna cries when Tidus's head falls to her side with a frozen look of shock.
This should have been in the main game.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on March 26, 2014, 04:42:46 PM
Isn't the whole thing with the novel bullshit? I've never seen the novel translated and what it has been said of it is just sounds (to me) like a bunch of people overreacting because of some poor translation of a few pages.

Of course I could be wrong and the novel is as dumb as it has been mentioned. But still, I rather read the entire novel before freaking out.

The audio drama is sort of annoying to me since I don't particularly like the way Nojima writes his stories. It sucks that he's the script writer for XV... I'm crossing my fingers for him to do a good job since the idea behind the scenario in XV has potential in itself, but at this point I don't expect much of anything from him.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Dice on March 26, 2014, 07:28:04 PM
Oh my god I laughed through that whole post xD
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Zendervai on March 26, 2014, 08:55:36 PM
Isn't the whole thing with the novel bullshit? I've never seen the novel translated and what it has been said of it is just sounds (to me) like a bunch of people overreacting because of some poor translation of a few pages.

Of course I could be wrong and the novel is as dumb as it has been mentioned. But still, I rather read the entire novel before freaking out.

The audio drama is sort of annoying to me since I don't particularly like the way Nojima writes his stories. It sucks that he's the script writer for XV... I'm crossing my fingers for him to do a good job since the idea behind the scenario in XV has potential in itself, but at this point I don't expect much of anything from him.

Most of the information is coming from the Japanese side of things. Like, book reviews and such.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Yggdrasil on March 27, 2014, 01:41:40 AM
Most of the information is coming from the Japanese side of things. Like, book reviews and such.

Alright that's fine, but what sort of bothers me about this (aside from my lack of knowledge of Japanese in this case) is how this talk of the novel from what I've seen was generated from a few pages of a book that is not precisely small. There is more stuff I and others don't know about because of the language barrier going on here, right?

(http://i58.tinypic.com/1ovsx3.png)
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Post by: Legaia on March 27, 2014, 07:51:34 PM
Just downloaded the remaster from PSN. I've never played the international version of FFX so this is almost like a whole new experience for me. So far everything is great and the remaster does not disappoint. Only issue (aside from not having a skip cutscene option) is that in most cutscenes the background music drowns out the dialogue. A lot of the time it's hard to make out what the characters are saying with the background music playing at the same time, so I have to keep the subtitles on.
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Post by: Dice on March 28, 2014, 12:20:53 AM
(http://www.ffshrine.org/ffx2/fmvshots/11normalending/00056.jpg)

.... :)

.... :(
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Andrew on March 28, 2014, 01:23:44 AM
GAH!

Edit: That teaches me to innocently browse threads.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Cyril on March 28, 2014, 02:56:16 AM
That is nightmarish, really.

On an unrelated note, I noticed, in the first section with her and Tidus alone, Rikku's HD'd face looks incredibly masculine.  Is it just her early costume that gives that effect or does it look as masculine later?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Lard on March 29, 2014, 09:20:38 AM
Finally got ahold of an English copy today.
Very happy to play through this again as I think it's the last truly good FF.
(12 sucks!)
Never played X-2 before either.
As much as I detest Sony dropping bc to sell us our old games again, the hd versions really are handy for travelling when you can take two or three games on one disc.
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Post by: Klutz64 on March 29, 2014, 10:08:30 AM
^ Not really Sony do anything. Hell, there's a rumor Sony will be introducing disc-based PS1/PS2 emulation on the PS4 before the end of the year.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Lard on March 29, 2014, 10:32:52 AM
Of course Sony did it. They got rid of bc to sell games on psn and hd editions.
And there is no way in hell sony will give us emulation when they can resell us games again and again.

Edit - back on topic:

If there was one song they SHOULD have changed, it was "Other World".

Every time I listen to that song, I think how great the production is - except for the tin can that is being substituted for a snare drum.

The snare sounds like tinny crap. It's weak and doesn't suit the song at all and it's bugged me for years.

The one thing they could have fixed and they didn't!

So far the only song I like better than the original is "Spira Unplugged". The guitar sounds more natural to me.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Lard on March 30, 2014, 03:34:16 AM
I fucking hate blitzball.
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Post by: Cyril on March 30, 2014, 03:53:26 AM
Blitzball is the sole redeeming factor of FFX for me, you're crazy!
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Post by: Lard on March 30, 2014, 04:14:22 AM
Blitzball is the equivalent of having gas soaked shards of glass shoved up your anus then lit on fire.

What pisses me off is you simply cannot win. The game sets you up to fail.

This is my sixth time playing through FFX. I've already played the blitzball game four times today. It is physically impossible to win.

I cannot keep control of the ball. I never steal from the opposing team in tackles yet they always steal from me. 100% of the time.

I even went through the tutorial again today to see if I was doing anything wrong.

Nope. The game just fucks you over.
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Post by: Dincrest on March 30, 2014, 10:15:49 AM
Someone once described "Otherworld" as a metal song produced by a punk.  That song needed cleaner production and a better vocalist.  Imagine if Burton C. Bell of Fear Factory had done it.  The growls would be more ballsy and the cleans would be more resonant. 
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Post by: Lard on March 30, 2014, 11:52:48 AM
I actually don't mind the vocals. They suit the song just fine, overall.

The drums just sound really wimpy compared to the rest of the song and it's jarring.
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Post by: AuraChannelerChris on March 30, 2014, 12:34:22 PM
It's a song meant for super manly drunken men like Jetch.
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Post by: ZeronHitaro on March 30, 2014, 02:01:24 PM
Blitzball is the equivalent of having gas soaked shards of glass shoved up your anus then lit on fire.

What pisses me off is you simply cannot win. The game sets you up to fail.

This is my sixth time playing through FFX. I've already played the blitzball game four times today. It is physically impossible to win.

I cannot keep control of the ball. I never steal from the opposing team in tackles yet they always steal from me. 100% of the time.

I even went through the tutorial again today to see if I was doing anything wrong.

Nope. The game just fucks you over.

Are you talking about the Championship match?

Because I beat that on my second try, both times having been derpy enough to fail to remember you have to press Triangle in order to enable manual movement. So I was letting the AI pretty much make all the moves (sans Passing and Shooting triggers) and still pulled it off, despite the bone-headed 'zerg rush' tactics the game uses on full auto.

Just try a hot-potato tactic and avoid contact with the enemy as much as you can until you can get Tidus in for a Jecht Shot. Take long range passes to backline members if you have in order to avoid being boxed in.

And if you really, really don't want to play fair. You can always Jecht Shot at range, score, then pass the ball to someone and hide in your own goal the rest of the game (assuming they didn't fix that, I haven't tried yet).

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If you mean the rest of Blitzball; wait til end game, recruit better players, play Exhibition mode only for a while and pass the ball to everyone on your team. Also allow the enemy to take a few shots at your goalie.

You need to start hitting the 10's before more of the better stat curves for your players start kicking in.
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Post by: Dincrest on March 30, 2014, 02:02:55 PM
Oh, don't get me wrong.  Otherworld has to have the growls for ballsiness.  The Black Mages version with the clean female vocals is decent, but it lacks balls.  I just prefer my harsh vocals richer and less auto-tuned.  I'm not asking for Mikael Akerfeld from Opeth, but I at least want a Dez Farfara (DevilDriver) snarl.  Like I said before, Burton C. Bell's voice would have been awesome for that song.  I'm picky about my metal growls.  What can I say?
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Post by: blackthirteen on April 01, 2014, 06:35:40 AM
It's definitely a very nice port, FFX was 2nd best FF game and it's great to revisit it again.

I hoped some additional improvements such allowing to skip cutscenes, it's a big flaw they could have easily fixed.

Is it just me or the lips are no longer synced with the English voices? On the PS2 they did a great job with that aspect. In this version there are awkward moments when characters still move their lips when they're no longer speaking.

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Post by: Blace on April 01, 2014, 12:00:25 PM
I don't remember the lips being synched very well in the PS2 version either, but it is more noticeable now because it is in HD and clearer to see. At this point I don't expect Square to do much in that regard. The FFXIII games weren't synched very well either.
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Post by: Yggdrasil on April 01, 2014, 01:30:38 PM
The FFXIII games weren't synched very well either.

That's weird. I don't recall any of the XIII games being badly lip-synched as X or X-2 were on some occasions.
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Post by: ultra7k on April 01, 2014, 01:44:59 PM
XIII was ok, but in LR when you switch the VA to Japanese, you can really see the difference in lip syncing.
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Post by: Lard on April 01, 2014, 11:42:08 PM
Are you talking about the Championship match?

Because I beat that on my second try, both times having been derpy enough to fail to remember you have to press Triangle in order to enable manual movement.

No I meant the championship match. What usually happened was they scored on me in the first half, I scored with Tidus, then Wakka would come out and I would get scored on and lose. Repeat ad nauseum. 

I never seem to be able to hang onto the ball. I finally beat it on Sunday after about 8 tries but I was growing increasingly frustrated by the end. I mean, I *know* I'll never get the 200 lightning dodge trophy, and I'm fine with that, but blitzball.....man that just pissed me off.
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Post by: ZeronHitaro on April 01, 2014, 11:55:08 PM
Are you talking about the Championship match?

Because I beat that on my second try, both times having been derpy enough to fail to remember you have to press Triangle in order to enable manual movement.

No I meant the championship match. What usually happened was they scored on me in the first half, I scored with Tidus, then Wakka would come out and I would get scored on and lose. Repeat ad nauseum. 

I never seem to be able to hang onto the ball. I finally beat it on Sunday after about 8 tries but I was growing increasingly frustrated by the end. I mean, I *know* I'll never get the 200 lightning dodge trophy, and I'm fine with that, but blitzball.....man that just pissed me off.

I had a moment like that today with the Chocobo Races. Was about three seconds off from swearing because of those freaking birds. X-x

Couldn't just quit either because I got 0.0:8 on my third try.

40 minutes later I finally get the Sigil. ~_~;
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Post by: Dice on April 02, 2014, 08:44:23 PM
For your entertainment:

Some graphic ripper made screenshot differences between the low res and hi res FFX (PS2) models.
http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-PS2-Character-model-swapping

Nothing to do with the HD version; just thought it'd be kinda cool to share
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Annubis on April 02, 2014, 08:48:38 PM
Lulu got a bust upgrade with the HD.
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Post by: AuraChannelerChris on April 11, 2014, 10:58:32 AM
Screw it. It's sale time.

http://www.dealzon.com/deals/final-fantasy-x-x-2-hd-remaster#final-fantasy-x-x-2-hd-remaster-ps3 (http://www.dealzon.com/deals/final-fantasy-x-x-2-hd-remaster#final-fantasy-x-x-2-hd-remaster-ps3)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, Listen to his story again...
Post by: Annubis on April 11, 2014, 01:47:19 PM
Not it Canada it isn't.
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Post by: Klutz64 on April 14, 2014, 07:37:32 PM
Just a random boredom thought:

Did anyone else smile for that little quip hinting at the origin of the Summoner's Horn on Gagazet?

It's the little things that make FFX so special to me.
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Post by: Lard on April 14, 2014, 08:20:41 PM
Not it Canada it isn't.

The only type of price change we get lately are fucking increases.

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Post by: Blace on April 18, 2014, 01:52:12 PM
According to the NPD report from last night the Vita did indeed see a sales spike thanks to this game in the US. Exact numbers weren't given though. PS4 outsold the XOne too despite the bundle with Titanfall being 100 bucks cheaper than the initial cost for the system. That's pretty bad if you ask me.
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Post by: blackthirteen on April 19, 2014, 10:39:52 AM
How tragic... just when I started to feel immersed in the game again, my playstation 3 died with the famous light of death yeallow light... and the game is still trapped in the console.

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Post by: Kevadu on April 19, 2014, 02:30:19 PM
If you're feeling adventurous it's not that hard to disassemble a PS3 to get a disc out of the drive.

(Speaks from experience...)
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Post by: Ranadiel on April 20, 2014, 06:00:51 AM
Alternatively, you can use a hair dryer to buy maybe another day or so of use for it in order to get the disc out and back up your data (look up youtube videos). Question then becomes whether you want to buy a new one or get a refurb. I recommend against a refurb because it will probably die shortly afterwards.
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Post by: Agent D. on April 21, 2014, 05:46:19 PM
You could also contact sony for a service repair, which should run you 130 bucks in the states. Iirc they offer to "upgrade" your older system for a newer model too if you want.
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Post by: Starmongoose on April 21, 2014, 05:51:11 PM
Halfway done Monster Arena collecting. Just got Macalania, Thunder Plains, Inside Sin and Calm Lands to go. Is tedious work.

Then I'll start Celestial Weapon collecting. I have Aurons, Yuna's, Tidus's and Rikku's currently. Wakka's will be a pain the in the hole, Lulu's too. I'll probably just ignore kiamari entirely.
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Post by: Blace on April 21, 2014, 06:46:16 PM
I ignored Kimahri completely lol. I have his celestial weapon, but he's the only one I didn't get the sigil for. I probably would have had they made it a trophy like everyone elses... but they didn't lol. Getting 10 of every enemy was such a pain the butt. Don't wish it on anyone. I am just farming luck spheres and fortune spheres right now.
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Post by: blackthirteen on April 21, 2014, 06:53:11 PM
Thank you for your suggestions guys. $130 for repair (plus shipping costs) is almost the price of a brand new PS3. They are priced around $200 now.
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Post by: Kevadu on April 21, 2014, 07:11:14 PM
I don't recall having to pay any shipping costs but that might be because I took it to a Sony Store and they mailed it from there, rather than being sent straight from/to my home.

It's not really a 'repair', though.  Pretty sure the PS3 they gave me was brand new.  (I had an old fat one, I ended up receiving the latest slim model...).

But I've heard plenty of stories about people never getting discs back that were stuck in their PS3s after sending them in.  It doesn't seem well-organized in that respect.  I still recommend opening it up yourself to get the disc even if you're going to send it in.  It's out of warranty anyway.
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Post by: Ranadiel on April 22, 2014, 06:32:03 AM
You could also contact sony for a service repair, which should run you 130 bucks in the states. Iirc they offer to "upgrade" your older system for a newer model too if you want.
I've done that twice, they just send you a refurb.....hence why I had to do it twice since the first one died again within like two months to the same problem.