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Title: New Batman.....
Post by: Chronix112 on August 23, 2013, 04:01:24 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57599811/ben-affleck-to-play-batman-in-man-of-steel-sequel/ 
All i got say is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgI2ZQVyrBo
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Post by: Aeolus on August 23, 2013, 04:58:17 AM
Well, he can't be any worse than George Clooney and his Bat Rubber Nipples. Fake Edit: Oh god dammit, nevermind. I forgot that he was Daredevil.

And speaking of, lol at Affleck for finally rectifying his lack of being a Batman in an effort to catch up to Clooney in that regard.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Agent D. on August 23, 2013, 08:58:08 AM
I don't get what you guys are bitching about. Ben Affleck is a great actor. Yeah Daredevil sucked, that wasn't his fault by any means, the movie was just silly. How about movies like The Town? Or Argo? What about Pearl Harbor? Hell even his daredevil portrayal wasn't bad in itself. I look forward to at least seeing his future attempt at Bruce Wayne.

His wife can stay off the big screen, however. She was terrible as Electra.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Dice on August 23, 2013, 09:52:28 AM
I was gonna ask: Why do we hate Ben Affleck?

EDIT:
http://i.imgur.com/r8Wnwq4.jpg
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Frostillicus on August 23, 2013, 11:19:05 AM
EDIT:
http://i.imgur.com/r8Wnwq4.jpg

Sheeple... Bigots. Sheegots.



Granted, Affleck is not the best actor out there, but he's not bad, either. Hell of a director on top of it. I personally think he will do just fine here.  People are too quick to cast doom and gloom on things they don't immediately approve of. No actor could have saved the mess that was Daredevil...
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Dincrest on August 23, 2013, 11:40:47 AM
My negative kneejerk reaction was the same as all of yours, but then I remember Dark Knight Rises.  I balked at the idea of Anne Hathaway playing Catwoman.  I saw her as breezy rom-com fluff who'd probably crumble under Bale's intensity.  My personal choice was Christina Ricci because she's edgier.  But, man, Anne Hathaway surprised the hell out of me and played Catwoman extremely well, probably due in large part to Christopher Nolan's skilled directing.   So here's hoping this turns out of be a pleasant surprise as well. 

Part of an actors performance hinges on a director.  A good director, like Nolan, can bring extra dimensions out of seemingly mediocre talent, as evidenced above by Anne Hathaway as Catwoman.  On the other hand, a director with a less skilled hand (i.e. George Lucas) can often bring out the worst in even the most skilled actors.  Natalie Portman is a kajillion times better than what she portrayed in Star Wars.  And even Hayden Christensen, yeah he wasn't very good in Star Wars but he was really good in other movies, like Shattered Glass. 
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Frostillicus on August 23, 2013, 12:07:40 PM
My negative kneejerk reaction was the same as all of yours, but then I remember Dark Knight Rises.  I balked at the idea of Anne Hathaway playing Catwoman.  I saw her as breezy rom-com fluff who'd probably crumble under Bale's intensity.  My personal choice was Christina Ricci because she's edgier.  But, man, Anne Hathaway surprised the hell out of me and played Catwoman extremely well, probably due in large part to Christopher Nolan's skilled directing.

Agreed. I honestly wasn't sure what to expect, but like you, wifey and I were both pleasantly surprised by her performance. Very well done. 
Plus, the way she mounts the batcycle.... yeah.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Agent D. on August 23, 2013, 12:38:53 PM
I never pictured Anne Hathaway to pull off catwoman like the comics. I expected her to be more like Adam West Batman's catwoman, basically eye candy and henchmen. Either way, skin tight leather and sultry poses worked wonders for my appreciation of her.
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Post by: Starmongoose on August 23, 2013, 01:02:29 PM
I thought she was okay, if on the dull side. I preferred Michelle Pfeiffer's batshit crazy Catwoman.

EDIT: Fuck Michelle Pfeiffer's name.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Fadedsun on August 23, 2013, 03:03:38 PM


Part of an actors performance hinges on a director.  A good director, like Nolan, can bring extra dimensions out of seemingly mediocre talent, as evidenced above by Anne Hathaway as Catwoman.  On the other hand, a director with a less skilled hand (i.e. George Lucas) can often bring out the worst in even the most skilled actors.  Natalie Portman is a kajillion times better than what she portrayed in Star Wars.  And even Hayden Christensen, yeah he wasn't very good in Star Wars but he was really good in other movies, like Shattered Glass. 

Well, Nolan isn't directing this movie so don't get your hopes up.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Agent D. on August 23, 2013, 03:51:40 PM


Part of an actors performance hinges on a director.  A good director, like Nolan, can bring extra dimensions out of seemingly mediocre talent, as evidenced above by Anne Hathaway as Catwoman.  On the other hand, a director with a less skilled hand (i.e. George Lucas) can often bring out the worst in even the most skilled actors.  Natalie Portman is a kajillion times better than what she portrayed in Star Wars.  And even Hayden Christensen, yeah he wasn't very good in Star Wars but he was really good in other movies, like Shattered Glass. 

Well, Nolan isn't directing this movie so don't get your hopes up.
Snyder is, and he did a good job with Cavill for Superman.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: dyeager on August 23, 2013, 05:11:00 PM
http://feedly.com/k/154UamM
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Dincrest on August 23, 2013, 06:49:03 PM
I thought Snyder did a great job on The Watchmen. 
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Aeolus on August 23, 2013, 06:59:43 PM
Yeah, that is the core of the matter isn't it. Both Daredevil and Batman & Robin were terribly directed among other things and it showed.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: dyeager on August 23, 2013, 07:08:53 PM
I thought Snyder did a great job on The Watchmen. 

The only Snyder movie I've ever liked was 300.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Yggdrasil on August 23, 2013, 09:55:00 PM
http://feedly.com/k/154UamM

Ha. That's just another way of saying "I'm too old for this shit".
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: dyeager on August 23, 2013, 10:56:55 PM
You're probably right. :-D
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: GrimReality on August 24, 2013, 12:41:00 AM
I think he's a mediocre actor, but a pretty darn great director. This stupid batman gig will take time away from directing another film, and that's why it bothers me. Oh, well.
BTW, Snyder has been all over the place. he does visuals great, but suffers almost everywhere else. Lets not forget he made the abysmal Sucker Punch.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Yggdrasil on August 24, 2013, 01:32:05 PM
Ben Affleck is Batman in Man of Steel 2! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGmFjKxXxl4) -- JeremyJahns, YouTube

Hm. I agree with his point in that is difficult to see the character of Batman in Ben Affleck, I don't see that the dude has that thing to be the Batman. At least not right now...

Daredevil: Batman Voice (2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_5WtyilrBw)
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Dice on August 24, 2013, 01:37:15 PM
Ben Affleck is Batman in Man of Steel 2! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGmFjKxXxl4) -- JeremyJahns, YouTube

Hm. I agree with his point in that is difficult to see the character of Batman in Ben Affleck, I don't see that the dude has that thing to be the Batman. At least not right now...

Daredevil: Batman Voice (2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_5WtyilrBw)

There's a part in Dazed and Confused where he's telling people to fuck themselves that was very Batman-y. :)
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Yoda on August 24, 2013, 01:43:04 PM
The problem with a lot of the kneejerk reaction going on is that the Nolan trilogy is extremely overrated. They're awesome movies but man if you express any negative opinion about them you're torn to pieces in some circles.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Dice on August 24, 2013, 08:00:05 PM
The problem with a lot of the kneejerk reaction going on is that the Nolan trilogy is extremely overrated. They're awesome movies but man if you express any negative opinion about them you're torn to pieces in some circles.

Nolan's Batman is not over-rated when juxtaposed to other Batmen movies (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118688/).
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Yoda on August 24, 2013, 10:11:52 PM
The problem with a lot of the kneejerk reaction going on is that the Nolan trilogy is extremely overrated. They're awesome movies but man if you express any negative opinion about them you're torn to pieces in some circles.

Nolan's Batman is not over-rated when juxtaposed to other Batmen movies (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118688/).

Yeah but just about every super hero movie sucked back in the day. I'd rather watch the 89 batman any fucking day of the week.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Hathen on August 25, 2013, 06:38:42 AM
a new guy as batman is not a problem

a sequel to man of steel is
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Ashton on August 25, 2013, 08:29:05 AM
The problem with a lot of the kneejerk reaction going on is that the Nolan trilogy is extremely overrated. They're awesome movies but man if you express any negative opinion about them you're torn to pieces in some circles.

Nolan's Batman is not over-rated when juxtaposed to other Batmen movies (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118688/).
I disagree (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106364/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1).
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Aeolus on August 25, 2013, 08:34:13 PM
The problem with a lot of the kneejerk reaction going on is that the Nolan trilogy is extremely overrated. They're awesome movies but man if you express any negative opinion about them you're torn to pieces in some circles.

Nolan's Batman is not over-rated when juxtaposed to other Batmen movies (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118688/).
I disagree (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106364/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1).

Pretty much. Batmans 89 and Returns are still fairly great movies in their own right. The Nolan Trilogy is only really good when you consider the source material having a different flavor to the usual, more comic book affair, that the mainline material is made out of.

It's like that episode of early 00's Animated Batman where you have the different kids tell their different interpretations of Batman to each other, one of which was 60's era, Adam West style, Batman where another went with Frank Miller's The Dark Knight, and the third went with "He's a Pterodactyl!", and all of them saw what they assumed they were going to see in Animated Batman when he finally shows up.

Actually, my beefs with Forever and Robin are that in the case of the former, they REALLY should've gotten somebody other than Jim Carrey to play The Riddler (if they really had to have Jim Carrey play a Batman villain he should've been a Joker or the Mad Hatter), and then not made the plot about that stupid brain-drain gizmo; and in the case of the latter, well they pretty much made it into 60's era Batman with gimmicky, one-liner Mr. Freeze and gimmicky Bane, as well as other stupid shit like having Robin drive his motorcycle through a wall, leaving a Batman crest shaped hole in his wake (and this was long before he ditched his Nightwing persona to become Batman mk2); or another way to look at it was that everything in regards to B&R was bad aside from Mr. Freeze's campy one-liners and Poison Ivy being appropriately hawt.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: CluelessWonder on September 04, 2013, 12:49:02 AM
At first  I was like "Ben?  Really?"  But I think I had that same reaction when Michael Keaton was cast as Batman and he ended up doing a great job.  So I will reserve judgment for now. 
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: pseudonym on September 11, 2013, 12:42:28 AM
Casey Affleck or Matt Damon as Robin? Kevin Smith as the Penguin?
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Yggdrasil on September 17, 2013, 08:00:51 PM
Ben Affleck tells parenting stories, talks Batman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8BaVKUoUGo) -- latenight, YouTube
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: EmeraldSword on January 29, 2015, 07:51:47 PM
Couldn't find a more recent thread, so I'll leave my thoughts here. So any guesses as to the possibility that we may see a teaser trailer to the movie now titled, "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice" this weekend during America's big game, the Super Bowl? Too soon? IMDb says the movie is slated to open in the U.S. on March 16, 2016. Rumors circulating the internet this month is that the teaser trailer is supposedly attached to the soon-to-open, "Jupiter Ascending."
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: EmeraldSword on April 17, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
So yesterday a new Star Wars 7 movie trailer hits the internet and then a trailer for Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) leaks online after a Brazilian records with a shakey camcorder the trailer in an advanced screening of the Avengers 2 film w/Portuguese subtitles. Like a hawk, WB has been taking the leaked trailer down left and right on YouTube.

Here's an official screen from the teaser that the director, Zack Snyder promoted online yesterday to hype up the upcoming trailer:
(https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/batmanvsuperman_newcostume.jpg?w=670&h=377&crop=1)

I read somewhere that the new suit is supposed to be more armored and have "green" kryptonite to help protect him against Superman's punches. I didn't read the comics, so I don't know much about it or how Batman may have got his hands on the source. A quick Google search reveals that green krypton was created after the explosion of Krypton.

As for the bat-voice? While it doesn't sound exactly like the ol' Christian Bale. It's been confirmed to sound altered. Most likely due to fact that there will be modulation in Affleck's voice from being inside the new Batman armored suit.

Two epic trailers in one day. I can't get anything done at work in the last 24 hours. Nerdgasm.

I think the trailer will show in front of Avengers 2 IMAX screenings next week for select theaters in the states and then it'll probably pop online officially on YouTube or other people go to sites. Can't wait to hear your guys thoughts on it.

God..... March 25, 2016 feels sooooo far away.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Ranadiel on April 18, 2015, 06:30:37 AM
A coworker showed me that Batman V. Superman trailer yesterday while we were at lunch. I laughed times during it for the wrong reasons (like the Iron Bat Suit or w/e that was that gave Batman glowy eyes). This movie is going to be horrible. >.>
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Rucks on April 18, 2015, 09:40:25 AM
A coworker showed me that Batman V. Superman trailer yesterday while we were at lunch. I laughed times during it for the wrong reasons (like the Iron Bat Suit or w/e that was that gave Batman glowy eyes). This movie is going to be horrible. >.>

This x100,000.  And for reasons that have little to do with Ben Affleck being cast as the caped crusader.  Zach Snyder is awful and I'm already sick of edgy reboots. STOP IT, YOU CAN'T MAKE HIM ANY EDGIER!! Someone smarter and funnier than me needs to "reboot" the Adam West style "WIZ" "BANG" "POW" batman.  That's something I'd actually be excited about.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Hathen on April 19, 2015, 12:04:38 AM
Batman using a power suit thing to fight Superman isn't exactly a new thing. I'm pretty sure it even happened like a decade before Iron Man ever used a special suit to fight The Hulk.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-k88l0ZOJW14/Ue-20vxfVZI/AAAAAAAAPlI/M46UIvQW3Yg/s1600/superman+vs+batman+dark+knight+returns.gif)
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Post by: Tooker on April 19, 2015, 12:29:25 AM
Had to look it up, and you are pretty close.  Looks like Dark Knight Returns (where I think that armor came from) showed up in 1986, and Hulkbuster armor showed up in 1994.

When I saw the trailer, that armor is precisely what I thought of.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Ranadiel on April 19, 2015, 07:36:01 AM
Batman using a power suit thing to fight Superman isn't exactly a new thing. I'm pretty sure it even happened like a decade before Iron Man ever used a special suit to fight The Hulk.
Whether it is new or not doesn't change the fact that it looked ridiculous (to me) in the five second clip of it in the trailer.

Actually....I just thought about Batman having an anti-Superman suit, and it seems like a really bad idea this early in the franchise. In Dark Knight Returns, Batman was at the end of his career having passed his prime decades prior and was partially using it to compensate for that. But in this movie, he is apparently going to have an Iron Man suit at the beginning of his career and then either use it forever and be overpowered for his entire rogue gallery or never use his most powerful gadget ever again for....reasons. This just does not seem like a good idea long term....then again that describes just about every decision made by DC regarding their movie verse. x_x
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Hathen on April 19, 2015, 08:20:58 AM
You're comparing it a lot to the Iron Man suit(s), and appearance-wise I'm really not seeing how it looks any worse than any of the Iron Man suits (which I think look great too). I'm only slightly familiar comics but it makes sense to me that Batman would need some kind of special suit to fight Superman, prime or not. On that note, do we even know much about the movie other than that Batman is using this suit and that Batman and Superman are going to fight? For the record, I think Man of Steel was really bad, I just don't see any reason to dislike this movie yet. Low expectations, I can understand, it just seems like people are making a whole of assumptions to rip on the movie for no real reason.

And personally, I've never really cared about how one movie might affect another, even with the Marvel Universe. I just want good movies. Honestly half the time I feel like the Marvel movies are so obsessed with their universe it negatively impacts individual movies (Iron Man 2 is my go-to example).
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Aeolus on April 20, 2015, 12:38:36 AM
Batman using a power suit thing to fight Superman isn't exactly a new thing. I'm pretty sure it even happened like a decade before Iron Man ever used a special suit to fight The Hulk.
Whether it is new or not doesn't change the fact that it looked ridiculous (to me) in the five second clip of it in the trailer.

Actually....I just thought about Batman having an anti-Superman suit, and it seems like a really bad idea this early in the franchise. In Dark Knight Returns, Batman was at the end of his career having passed his prime decades prior and was partially using it to compensate for that. But in this movie, he is apparently going to have an Iron Man suit at the beginning of his career and then either use it forever and be overpowered for his entire rogue gallery or never use his most powerful gadget ever again for....reasons. This just does not seem like a good idea long term....then again that describes just about every decision made by DC regarding their movie verse. x_x

Batman since at least the 60s has tried to move away from killing crooks and other badguys, Powered Armor kinda makes it hard to do that though so it makes sense not to resort to it in that capacity at least. Plus, one of Batman's superpowers has always been to be crazy prepared at all times, so how do you know if he hasn't always had that Powered Suit just lying around?
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: insertnamehere on April 20, 2015, 12:43:48 AM
So what do you guys think of Dawn of the Dead 2004?
Or how about Legend of the Guardians?
Watchmen was good, iirc, but I haven't seen it all and still need to read/watch the comic.
Man of Steel was decent and inoffensive, I suppose.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Agent D. on April 20, 2015, 01:26:48 AM
I'm all for a powered bat suit, superman is no joke. Short of a kryptonite ring or a hostage, Batman really can't just go toe to toe with supes. Besides, we all know that the Batman/Superman fight is just for coolness sake. Whatever draws a crowd, right?
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Ranadiel on April 20, 2015, 07:13:51 AM
On that note, do we even know much about the movie other than that Batman is using this suit and that Batman and Superman are going to fight? For the record, I think Man of Steel was really bad, I just don't see any reason to dislike this movie yet. Low expectations, I can understand, it just seems like people are making a whole of assumptions to rip on the movie for no real reason.

And personally, I've never really cared about how one movie might affect another, even with the Marvel Universe. I just want good movies. Honestly half the time I feel like the Marvel movies are so obsessed with their universe it negatively impacts individual movies (Iron Man 2 is my go-to example).
Oh you are going to love Batman v. Superman if you don't like movies obsessed with their universes. Off the top of my head, I know that Aquaman, Wonder Woman, and Lex Luthor will all be in the movie. I think there are other characters from the Justice League which will be showing up as well because this movie really is Justice League part 1. Side note, love Iron Man 2.
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: EmeraldSword on April 20, 2015, 11:36:41 AM
A little humor for you guys:

Aquaman
(http://i.imgur.com/uFYpZz9.jpg)

Yep... a lasso being used under water.
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/118931/2276879-funny_gifs_his_logic_is_undeniable.gif)

Funny, when read in RDJ's voice:
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/a34f33ec6e1ab8f91c9e07134e109d61/tumblr_mopcuusbMH1snz3byo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: New Batman.....
Post by: Hathen on April 22, 2015, 09:50:25 AM
Oh you are going to love Batman v. Superman if you don't like movies obsessed with their universes. Off the top of my head, I know that Aquaman, Wonder Woman, and Lex Luthor will all be in the movie. I think there are other characters from the Justice League which will be showing up as well because this movie really is Justice League part 1. Side note, love Iron Man 2.

To clarify, what I mean by that is more that I hate it when Marvel movies have a very obvious part where they stop the movie so they can advertise another movie, especially if its at the expense of the story of the movie I'm currently watching. Iron Man 2 is my prime example of this and one only needs to watch a couple interviews with Jon Favreau and/or Mickey Rourke to get a pretty rough idea of what was going on behind the scenes/ended up on the cutting room floor. They're getting a lot better with that though, I don't think any of the Phase 2 movies had that problem.
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Post by: Link00 on June 03, 2015, 10:41:35 AM
Personally, it's not Affleck that's giving me trouble. Affleck will probably be the best thing about the film, I hope. He has learned to grow and mature as a performer since his dog days of Daredevil. Plus, he's recruited the screenwriter from Argo to replace Goyer at the script's helm.

My problem is with Snyder. He's one for four so far with his films. Watchmen was a success SOLELY becuase he had great source material to work with as well as a ridiculously talented cast. Meanwhile, MAN OF STEEL was f%#king HORRENDOUS! Cavill bored me to tears in that film and Goyer and Nolan's script was bafflingly bad. The only redeeming part of the flick was Russell freakin' Crowe! Also, DC keeps shoving unnecessary characters into the movie: Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Doomsday; DC STAHP @&@;;

PS- Suicide Squad has the potential to be good, provided they realize the Joker is NOT supposed to be the focus of the movie. It would be better if he was just a cameo rather than an actual player in the plot. I love Margot Robbie and the rest of the cast looks decent.