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Title: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 06, 2016, 07:52:47 PM
So we're now within a week of this year's E3. Its time to start posting links, gifs, webms, hopes/expectations/dreams and complaints when nothing you posted doesn't occur.

First, a link to get us started. http://gematsu.com/2016/06/e3-2016-press-conference-streaming-schedule

Next, expectations. Everybody's doing worse this year (except for EA who cut the line). Bethesda's only got Dishonored 2 and maybe one other game versus their Doom/Fallout 4 combo; Microsoft's no longer front and center as EA's going to cut into their presentation for once, and their big announcement is probably them boning up on their XBone; Ubisoft's probably going Watch Dogs 2 and maybe a new IP, but the goodwill is still gone; Sony 2016 has the toughest act to follow, Sony 2015; and Nintendo's sans Iwata and much of anything beyond Zelda U|NX. (And off in the distance, on a cold dreary night, perhaps you can hear from the depths of one of Konami's sex dungeons, a single videogame developer, the last of his kind, shackled to his janitor's cart, sobbing to himself as he carefully puts the finishing touches on the company's E3 video, which nobody will watch because it'll all be Pachislot trailers for old school Konami properties featuring copious amounts of Sexual Violence.)

And finally, the gifs/webms, will be posted when (re: if) I get around to it.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Dice on June 06, 2016, 08:54:37 PM
Seems like a bunch of things announced last year is getting pushed to 2017. :P

Can't wait anyways, whatever goes down it'll be a pleasure reporting in to the actual event this year! :D
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Klutz64 on June 06, 2016, 11:25:59 PM
REAL PREDICTIONS
----------------------------
- I fully expect we'll get a release window for Kingdom Hearts 3
- I also fully expect for KH3 to get pushed beyond that release window.
- We'll probably see some more concrete gameplay from FFVII Remake, with "more concrete" being a very relative term.
-Though SE will probably focus on games with concrete releases like SO5, Setsuna, and FFXV
- The PC game show will either be a drastic improvement from last year or another insufferable snoozefest, either way I think it will be a popular watch as people tune in to see which way it goes.
- Sony's big closer will be Bloodborne 2 teaser trailer
- CoD coverage will be toned down, but only subtly.

WISHFUL THINKING
---------------------------
- Golden Sun 4 with a promise of a proper ending.
- Persona 5 Western release date
- Ubisoft presser hosted by that For Honor viking dude.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 07, 2016, 02:16:36 AM
REAL PREDICTIONS
----------------------------
- I fully expect we'll get a release window for Kingdom Hearts 3
- I also fully expect for KH3 to get pushed beyond that release window.
- We'll probably see some more concrete gameplay from FFVII Remake, with "more concrete" being a very relative term.
-Though SE will probably focus on games with concrete releases like SO5, Setsuna, and FFXV
- The PC game show will either be a drastic improvement from last year or another insufferable snoozefest, either way I think it will be a popular watch as people tune in to see which way it goes.
- Sony's big closer will be Bloodborne 2 teaser trailer
- CoD coverage will be toned down, but only subtly.

WISHFUL THINKING
---------------------------
- Golden Sun 4 with a promise of a proper ending.
- Persona 5 Western release date
- Ubisoft presser hosted by that For Honor viking dude.

I think Sony's probably actually going to spend some time on The Last Guardian now that the devs are actually talking about it again, though we might get a long runner for the closer (like Legend of Dragoon 2 lol).
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Towns Car Marty on June 07, 2016, 03:07:16 AM
Haha, something tells me we'l get a Persona 5 release date *way* before KH3. I can't imagine they'll save much concrete about it at E3.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 07, 2016, 08:52:57 AM
Ubisoft downgrades (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNter0oEYxc) -- CrowbCat, YouTube

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Seems like a bunch of things announced last year is getting pushed to 2017.

And? Is par for the course that more than a few titles shown between E3 and TGS come out around 1 or even 3 years after being at the event for the first time. With a few of them getting swallowed within development technicalities, or become smoke.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Dice on June 07, 2016, 09:01:25 AM
And?

Time flies is all.

Anyways, I'm hoping for just ONE surprise I'm crazy for.  I kinda get irked with all the leaks already happening, they're like a spoiler. :P

Or one of these moments:
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/26ecbe8b0dfb8b157da991169987f62b/tumblr_mo73c6iHl41qfzwago1_400.gif)
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 07, 2016, 09:17:21 AM
And?

Time flies is all.

Pff. Sure, whatever. As long as you understood what I said I'm good.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Jimmy on June 07, 2016, 10:55:40 AM
I think Sony's probably actually going to spend some time on The Last Guardian now that the devs are actually talking about it again, though we might get a long runner for the closer (like Legend of Dragoon 2 lol).

LOL! If that happened I would totally play it though because it was just that crazy that it happened. Especially if we get another hilariously bad commercial like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEs2OlW25Ao
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Arvis on June 07, 2016, 11:17:18 AM
No one should be that excited about a Peggle game.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 07, 2016, 01:37:29 PM
XSeeD and Gaijinworks (lol) are kicking things off with some localization news.

http://gematsu.com/2016/06/akibas-beat-fateextella-story-seasons-trio-towns-coming-north-america

http://gematsu.com/2016/06/summon-night-6-coming-west-early-2017
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Dice on June 07, 2016, 07:17:47 PM
And?

Time flies is all.

Pff. Sure, whatever. As long as you understood what I said I'm good.

I didn't understand the point, no.

XSeeD and Gaijinworks (lol) are kicking things off with some localization news.

http://gematsu.com/2016/06/akibas-beat-fateextella-story-seasons-trio-towns-coming-north-america

http://gematsu.com/2016/06/summon-night-6-coming-west-early-2017

XSeed is on a roll and I can't thank them enough...!
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 08, 2016, 12:24:36 AM
There are rumors (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-06-07-skyrim-remaster-prey-2-wolfenstein-2-evil-within-2-rumoured-for-e3) (or "rumors" if we go by how reports of this nature sort of come and go around E3) of supposed titles from Bethesda to be in some form at the event.

---

I didn't understand the point, no.

You might truly have a rock for a head then.

Also as a side note. Time doesn't fly, but it can heal wounds.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Klutz64 on June 08, 2016, 07:52:30 AM
oops
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Rucks on June 08, 2016, 12:58:19 PM
I'll be Very interested to see how much stuff for the Vita or 3DS ends up being featured (my guess: not much).
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Dice on June 08, 2016, 02:57:35 PM

You might truly have a rock for a head then.

Also as a side note. Time doesn't fly, but it can heal wounds.

Yet my wounds run deeper than time can heal.  My pain is an abyss, a deep deep chasm of calamity, a den of deceit.  No comfort can cure it.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Arvis on June 08, 2016, 05:16:13 PM
^ I chuckled.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 09, 2016, 02:35:26 AM
Watch Dogs 2 Cinematic Reveal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh9x4NqW0Dw) -- Ubisoft US, YouTube

Past faults aside. This is probably the most tightly put together trailer Ubisoft have dropped since AC: Revelations' E3 trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMsbMK9Odoc&t=0m6s).

Yet my wounds run deeper than time can heal.  My pain is an abyss, a deep deep chasm of calamity, a den of deceit.  No comfort can cure it.

(http://i.imgur.com/s51lOFQ.png)
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Dice on June 09, 2016, 08:49:07 PM
Watch Dogs 2 Cinematic Reveal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh9x4NqW0Dw) -- Ubisoft US, YouTube

Past faults aside. This is probably the most tightly put together trailer Ubisoft have dropped since AC: Revelations' E3 trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMsbMK9Odoc&t=0m6s).

My dumb butt thought this was a SLEEPING Dogs sequel for the last two days.  Nevertheless, that was definitely an impressive trailer.  I already like this new lead more than Aiden.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 10, 2016, 04:10:11 AM
Watch Dogs 2 Cinematic Reveal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh9x4NqW0Dw) -- Ubisoft US, YouTube

Past faults aside. This is probably the most tightly put together trailer Ubisoft have dropped since AC: Revelations' E3 trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMsbMK9Odoc&t=0m6s).

My dumb butt thought this was a SLEEPING Dogs sequel for the last two days.  Nevertheless, that was definitely an impressive trailer.  I already like this new lead more than Aiden.

Unfortunately, its going to take a lot more than a less 'creepy uncle' protagonist to convince me that this won't suffer Ubisoft's chronic sequelitis.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Frostillicus on June 10, 2016, 10:14:54 AM
My dumb butt thought this was a SLEEPING Dogs sequel for the last two days.

Personally, I would have been much more excited about that.



I enjoyed Watchdogs, but it got too repetitive. I was pretty much glad for it to be over. Hopefully, this one will have some more variety to it.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 10, 2016, 10:20:51 AM
http://gematsu.com/2016/06/sony-confirms-ps4-neo-not-e3

So there is a PS4.5 (glad I saved my money on that one), but that's all we're getting on this until TGS.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Arvis on June 10, 2016, 10:22:51 AM
http://gematsu.com/2016/06/sony-confirms-ps4-neo-not-e3

So there is a PS4.5 (glad I saved my money on that one), but that's all we're getting on this until TGS.

Final Fantasy XV bundle maybe?
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Rucks on June 10, 2016, 11:04:47 AM
http://gematsu.com/2016/06/sony-confirms-ps4-neo-not-e3

So there is a PS4.5 (glad I saved my money on that one), but that's all we're getting on this until TGS.

This seems to benefit WRPG enthusiasts (and FPS/adventure/sports games) far more than JRPG enthusiasts.  I feel like the vast majority of JRPG's won't even come close to taking advantage of all of the bells and whistles a PS 4.5 is going to offer. So while this sounds neat, it's hard for me not to be pretty meh about it.  The biggest bonus I see is that it might drive the price of vanilla 4 further down.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 10, 2016, 12:58:33 PM
My dumb butt thought this was a SLEEPING Dogs sequel for the last two days.  Nevertheless, that was definitely an impressive trailer.  I already like this new lead more than Aiden.

Aiden was sort of a peculiar choice for a protagonist coming from Ubisoft. I mean for a moody fellow that keeps his cards close to chest, he's not badly portrayed or overbearing. And that's weird to see since normally that kind of personality mainly appeals to most people exclusively with Batman.

---

@glassjawsh: VR is the main incentive for the idea of an enhanced PS4 if you ask me. But I don't doubt that there will be benefits for most genres and even the already established catalog the console has, but honestly, is better to take a breather and not obsess over this kind of stuff because it iterates virtually every second.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Klutz64 on June 12, 2016, 05:20:50 PM
Anyone watch the EA presser? Another disappointment very similar to last year with a lost behind-the-scenes looks at games not far enough in development for even solid teaser trailers.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 12, 2016, 05:45:45 PM
Anyone watch the EA presser? Another disappointment very similar to last year with a lost behind-the-scenes looks at games not far enough in development for even solid teaser trailers.

Slept right on through it. I'm more interested in Bethesda's stuff anyways.


That said:
http://gematsu.com/2016/06/xbox-one-s-slim-model-leaked
http://gematsu.com/2016/06/new-legend-zelda-artwork-leaked-amazon
http://gematsu.com/2016/06/recore-launches-september-13

Some leaks are already going down.

I suppose you could refer to this new Xbone as XbointFive; Nintendo's gonna need more than a piece of impressive artwork to convince me that this won't be another Twilight Princess/Skyward Sword; and lol at ReCore still existing (why do I have that strange sinking feeling that you're going to be playing as the transforming robot and not the human as she's going to be your perpetual escort quest objective).
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Annubis on June 12, 2016, 05:51:53 PM
Anyone watch the EA presser? Another disappointment very similar to last year with a lost behind-the-scenes looks at games not far enough in development for even solid teaser trailers.

Slept right on through it. I'm more interested in Bethesda's stuff anyways.

I stand by my statement:
(http://i.imgur.com/DhBtiv2.png?1)
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 12, 2016, 06:31:46 PM
^You three already playing the "too cool for the show" card? That might be a new record.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 12, 2016, 06:41:45 PM
^You three already playing the "too cool for the show" card? That might be a new record.

Yeah, man, just look at those shades. He don't need no E3 - he IS the show!
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Klutz64 on June 12, 2016, 06:43:57 PM
^You three already playing the "too cool for the show" card? That might be a new record.

No. I'm calling a boring press event boring.

Not like I'm complaining about how much time they spent talking about sports or anything like that. The show had a few good moments, like the EA Originals announcement and the Titanfall 2 trailers, but otherwise it felt sterile and uninspired.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 12, 2016, 07:16:13 PM
EA was always the filler between Microsoft and Sony that I watched because I had nothing better to do that day (plus I'm fairly nocturnal on a regular basis so I wasn't being facetious about me being asleep at the time).

And frankly, EA cutting the line did them no favors since Microsoft typically covers most of their warez anyways (especially since Microsoft has nothing of its own beyond Bungie so they need warez from somewhere to fill the time between their pie charts/bar graphs/self-flagellation to their latest dead on arrival consumer bilking scheme/advertisements to completely unrelated products like tablets, shoes, cars etc) and they're far more entertaining about it than EA really ever was (you'd get longer trailers but you don't get the technical difficulties or the shameless commercials).
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 12, 2016, 08:30:37 PM
^I've been better with EA's mostly clean presentations than with Nintendo's live streams in the last few years on my end.

Yeah, man, just look at those shades. He don't need no E3 - he IS the show!

(http://i.imgur.com/M6pPgGE.png?1)
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 12, 2016, 08:40:10 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot Titanfall 2 was a thing.
*Googles*

And you officially have my attention again, EA. Congratz.

Wait.

*Checks Mirror's Edge 2 on Metacritics*
*Sees that it isn't terrible and/or utterly broken on release*

My my, maybe there's hope yet for a new leaf?

EDIT: @Yggdrasilly

I just changed my avatar, why must you tempt me?!

...Might make a good BL banner, though...
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: kofvscapcom on June 12, 2016, 09:30:48 PM
Got back from work and just watched the super best friends stream of the EA conference. I think it was actually quite good, yeah there's a lotta sports stuff but those are probably the franchises that make them the most money so it's understandable. Titanfall 2's supposedly multiplatform and it looks great, so thankfully I'll actually be able to play it this time.

Not much shown of new Mass Effect, but we do know that we got returning races like Krogan and Asari. Plus we get Mako 2.0. I got some confidence this new game'll be good since the slate's mostly wiped clean and they don't have the pressure to carry over decisions made in previous games. We kinda got shown in 3 that there's just no way to fit in all your previous decisions, same with dragon age inquisition. Sure some of the storylines that did carry through all 3 games were cool like punching the reporter and Conrad Verner was hilarious, but the expectations were just too great for ME 3. Either way, look forward to more media on this.

Onto Bethesda stuff in half an hour. We know about Dishonored 2 already, wonder if they have any actual surprises.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 12, 2016, 11:23:14 PM
Bethesda's come and gone. They announced a new Quake and something called Prey (wasn't there another game called Prey that featured something involving gravity shenanigans or something), but they really didn't have anything terribly interesting.

That said, that Elder Scrolls: Dark Brotherhood trailer sounded like I was in some incredibly hokey haunted house ("Filled with BLUUD! And GUUTS! And FEER! And DEETH!").
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Klutz64 on June 12, 2016, 11:53:54 PM
^ As a friend of mine pointed out, the Prey franchise now consists of two games: Prey, and Prey.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Kevadu on June 12, 2016, 11:58:42 PM
I remember Prey!  It was going to be the coolest game ever...like, back in 1996 (when single-syllable non-descriptive names were all the rage).  Wait, it actually got released?  I just remember it as DNF-level vaporware.  I guess by the time it was released I had stopped paying attention.

But hey, why not reboot a 'franchise' with only one game in it that everyone forgot about!
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 13, 2016, 12:18:31 AM
I remember Prey!  It was going to be the coolest game ever...like, back in 1996 (when single-syllable non-descriptive names were all the rage).  Wait, it actually got released?  I just remember it as DNF-level vaporware.  I guess by the time it was released I had stopped paying attention.

But hey, why not reboot a 'franchise' with only one game in it that everyone forgot about!

Like in 2006 or something. There apparently was also going to be a sequel which ended up becoming vaporware (so I guess this would be it).

Not that Bethesda has really abandoned the single word, non-descriptive names since (Elder Scrolls continues to be their big exception).
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 13, 2016, 11:33:05 AM
Honestly, the first Prey was pretty cool. I haven't played it in a while, though. Maybe I should buy it...except shipping from Gamestop costs more than the game itself...and the PC version's long gone...and my 360's not connected to the internet...and no Xbone BC yet (and is highly unlikely judging from the amount of votes), so I can't play it should my old Jasper spontaneously combust...

So how about that reboot? Looks nice, eh?
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 13, 2016, 02:08:39 PM
Gotta admit it. Microsoft's wasn't the barren wasteland I was expecting. Definitely wasn't expecting anything like FFXV to show up or Tekken 7 to troll and Scalebound looks nice.

That said, could they have at least not done so many panning shots of the audience everytime they showed game footage? That got really annoying, really fast.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 13, 2016, 02:29:21 PM
Speaking of Tekken 7:

Yes.
Just...

YES

I missed you, Tekken.

Well, non-Tag Team Tekken. TT's still good, but a little too hectic sometimes because of all the switching, makes it harder to get into the flow of things.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Klutz64 on June 13, 2016, 02:31:01 PM
Yeah, lots of stuff looked good. Never played a Dead Rising, but the DR4 trailer made me smile.

That being said:

"Please, buy this cool new XBox One we're introducing. Also, please buy the other new more powerful XBox One we're introducing next year."
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 13, 2016, 03:00:12 PM
@Mickeymac92: Tekken Tag 2 is one of the most solid fighting games I've had the pleasure to play. And Tekken 7 has been very good as well despite leaving behind a bit of tradition and putting Street Fighter nonsense in the form of gameplay and Akuma, whom I've never been a fan nor cared about. But hey, for all the hours and hours I've seen of Tekken 7 and FR on streams, I can tell it might end up being as good or close to Tag 2.

And unrelated to Tekken, I liked the enthusiasm of that dude from CD Projekt Red on stage showing off Gwent.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Arvis on June 13, 2016, 03:01:46 PM
Speaking of Tekken 7:

Yes.
Just...

YES

I missed you, Tekken.

Well, non-Tag Team Tekken. TT's still good, but a little too hectic sometimes because of all the switching, makes it harder to get into the flow of things.

But will it have Force Mode/Scenario Campaign?
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 13, 2016, 03:06:24 PM
BTW, I want to like Sea of Thieves.

That's why I'm going to avoid the latest trailer of it. Because that asshole floating in the corner of the screen is going to ruin any positive feelings I could ever have towards that game.

Speaking of obnoxious gaping assholes, Scalebound is an Action-RPG? I'm not sure how I feel about that. Platinum's always been best at skill-based action games, often with a fast pace. I feel like an action-rpg from them would either be too fast-paced and hectic for me to enjoy as an RPG, or the RPG aspects would just ruin (or at least significantly hold back) what would otherwise make for a great Action game.

At least, what I saw would just give me all the issues I have with Dark Souls and Bloodbourne, where I can't even treat it like an RPG. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy those games, but they wind up being more like the 3D Castlevanias that Konami wished they could make. However, that's also because of the slower pacing and the risk vs. reward factor that forces you to be more careful, and stay aware of your surroundings.

That is the antithesis of pretty much every game Platinum's put out since Bayonetta. Not entirely convinced they could pull it off any other way.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Agent D. on June 13, 2016, 03:13:17 PM
Speaking of Tekken 7:

Yes.
Just...

YES

I missed you, Tekken.

Well, non-Tag Team Tekken. TT's still good, but a little too hectic sometimes because of all the switching, makes it harder to get into the flow of things.

But will it have Force Mode/Scenario Campaign?
Fuck all that, where the hell is my Kuma!!!
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 13, 2016, 06:33:42 PM
PC, Ubisoft's conferences and Edios' presser have come and gone. Mount and Blade 2: Khergits Harder looked like an improvement. South Park 2 got a few cheap chuckles out of me (who knew that Kyle was a Gundam?). Jeri Ryan still looks good 15 years later, Leivar Burton not so much. Trail of the Blood Dragon was the stupidest goddamn looking thing (though the dedication to replicating old 80s/90s kids action figure commercials was amazing). And Deus Ex: Fractured War looked sleek as usual.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: kofvscapcom on June 13, 2016, 07:32:46 PM
Ugh, both the FF XV and Scalebound stuff just really feel like they picked the wrong boss to showcase. The FF XV footage, don't know if it was a guy playing it live and messing up or all prerecorded, but it just looked awkward and kinda janky. Scalebound's boss fight didn't feel very dynamic and a lot of that fight was just him shooting arrows or hey, attack the boss here. It's Kamiya so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but they could've chosen better footage to show. Well, it's pc/xbox anyways so I probably won't get to play it.

On the bright side, Dead rising 4 looks really good and so does We Happy Few. The gwent game we'll see how they rebalance because spies kill the balance of that game.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Klutz64 on June 13, 2016, 07:35:09 PM
The FFXV demo solidified my opinion of the combat in that game from everything we've seen so far: All style but absolutely zero substance. And even then, the style can only go so far when the mechanics seem so limited.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Andrew on June 13, 2016, 07:50:41 PM
Prediction!

On its release I expect FFXV to receive general critical praise (7-8+/10) and general fan disgust.

12 months later, everyone will hate it equally.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 13, 2016, 10:34:47 PM
Welp. Sony's come and gone. The orchestra was probably the highlight of the night, followed by the Resident Evil VII reveal. God of Tomb Raider looks like its still playing following the leader with other franchises. It'll be funny as hell if Horizon really is the Zelda game with a female protag that people have been clamoring for (that ball's in Nintendo's court now). Last Guardian finally has a launch date (probably what's gonna win them E3, not that there's been much competition). Lol at FFXV for both giving players a chance at playing somebody other than his royal boybland-ness and a VR gimmick at the same time. #SpidermanPS4 didn't do much for me but I'll give Insomnia the benefit of the doubt on this one since they seem to know their stuff. And if The Last Guardian getting a release date wasn't enough, Kojima strutting out and announcing that "He's back!" along with a trailer that ended with the entire audience literally plastered with the glazed over look of "WHAT???" pretty much locks it.

That said, Sony's was probably the shortest of the today's pressers and the VR segment was a drag (and they also managed to squeeze in a montage).
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Agent D. on June 13, 2016, 10:41:35 PM
Welp. Sony's come and gone. The orchestra was probably the highlight of the night, followed by the Resident Evil VII reveal. God of Tomb Raider looks like its still playing following the leader with other franchises. It'll be funny as hell if Horizon really is the Zelda game with a female protag that people have been clamoring for (that ball's in Nintendo's court now). Last Guardian finally has a launch date (probably what's gonna win them E3, not that there's been much competition). Lol at FFXV for both giving players a chance at playing somebody other than his royal boybland-ness and a VR gimmick at the same time. #SpidermanPS4 didn't do much for me but I'll give Insomnia the benefit of the doubt on this one since they seem to know their stuff. And if The Last Guardian getting a release date wasn't enough, Kojima strutting out and announcing that "He's back!" along with a trailer that ended with the entire audience literally plastered with the glazed over look of "WHAT???" pretty much locks it.

That said, Sony's was probably the shortest of the today's pressers and the VR segment was a drag (and they also managed to squeeze in a montage).
Coupled with the craptacular announcement of Crash Bandicoot in skylanders and remastering 1 2 and warped...this year definitely left me a tad depressed. Kojima coming onstage and speaking Engrish was pretty great though, although naked Norman Reedus definitely killed my "excitement" at that point
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 13, 2016, 10:42:51 PM
You guys can all throw the annual smartassery and jadedness and keep that tired mindset going, but what was shown at this E3 overall was solid. I'm satisfied and I'm out.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Annubis on June 13, 2016, 11:10:03 PM
Best thing by far that was shown today, speaking for myself, was the siege battles in Mount and Blade: Bannerlord.
Everything they've shown about that game makes me know I'll love it.

Prediction!

On its release I expect FFXV to receive general critical praise (7-8+/10) and general fan disgust.

12 months later, everyone will hate it equally.

I can see that happening.
Time is a harsh critique for some games.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Agent D. on June 13, 2016, 11:48:29 PM
You guys can all throw the annual smartassery and jadedness and keep that tired mindset going, but what was shown at this E3 overall was solid. I'm satisfied and I'm out.
How do you not get airsick with that throne you sit on so high above everyone?
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 13, 2016, 11:56:19 PM
How do you not get airsick with that throne you sit on so high above everyone?

I stay with as much of an open perspective as possible and my mantra is not "everything is terrible all the time for ever and ever" when it comes to this sort of thing. That said, I bet that's not enough of an answer for you.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yoda on June 14, 2016, 01:14:09 AM
I don't care that new slim Xbox looks real nice and I love the idea of customizable controllers.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Agent D. on June 14, 2016, 01:27:20 AM
How do you not get airsick with that throne you sit on so high above everyone?

I stay with as much of an open perspective as possible and my mantra is not "everything is terrible all the time for ever and ever" when it comes to this sort of thing. That said, I bet that's not enough of an answer for you.
Sorry, the answer we were looking for was "Rolaids".

@Yoda it does look mildly appealing, and the price point ain't too terrible...but with Scorpio happening now, I can't see a reason to donate money to a temporary buy like that. Rather save up for an xbone scorpio and be ready for the immediate news of the xbone 2 afterwards.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yoda on June 14, 2016, 01:31:36 AM
I know itd be foolish but if my 360 died out i would get that.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 14, 2016, 02:22:46 AM
How do you not get airsick with that throne you sit on so high above everyone?

I stay with as much of an open perspective as possible and my mantra is not "everything is terrible all the time for ever and ever" when it comes to this sort of thing. That said, I bet that's not enough of an answer for you.
Sorry, the answer we were looking for was "Rolaids".

@Yoda it does look mildly appealing, and the price point ain't too terrible...but with Scorpio happening now, I can't see a reason to donate money to a temporary buy like that. Rather save up for an xbone scorpio and be ready for the immediate news of the xbone 2 afterwards.

I loved how they kept trying to emphasize the idea that current XBone owners weren't going to be XBoned by Scorpio, while also trying to push the utter awesomesauce that is 4k gaming like that meant anything at all. The whole thing sounded like something regurgitated by a high pressure sales rep (short of inundating you with a dozen pamphlets and their business card; and I'm not so sure about the second one (they're currently drawing up the former)).

Also, I would much rather get a new 360 to replace a fallen 360 rather than any new Microsoft system since at least I know that it'll actually be mostly compatible with the 360 library instead of empty promises of implementing backwards compatibility that'll never come.


@Ygg. So you're a fan of the big budget, ultra violent, blood and guts, mowing down hoards of humans/zombies/mutants/androids/other human-like enemies, first/third person shooters then eh? Because that made up of most of the last two days conferences. Everything from stuff like We Happy Few to Dead Rising 4 and Gears of Four from Microsoft, to Ubisoft's annual Rainbow Six/Ghost Recon/Division/Hunt for Red October and For Honor, to Sony's mass zombie hoard shooter Days Gone, to EA's predictable Battlefronts and Call of Duties, to Bethesda, just Bethesda, all of it. Comparatively, there were like 4 RPGs, the yearly Forza/Just Dance/other destined to immediately land in shovelware bins and casual gamers' libraries until they sell it off at a garage sale 5 years later games, and a bunch of nondescript trailers/glorified announcements/release dates (especially of the VR stuff which was almost entirely FPSes (yes including FFXVR)) and a pair of cardgames/other merchandise heavy crap like Skylanders.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yoda on June 14, 2016, 09:11:18 AM
So they kept talking about hdr gaming with the slim xbone. Da fuq is that?
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Lard on June 14, 2016, 09:29:53 AM
How do you not get airsick with that throne you sit on so high above everyone?

I stay with as much of an open perspective as possible and my mantra is not "everything is terrible all the time for ever and ever" when it comes to this sort of thing. That said, I bet that's not enough of an answer for you.

I watched the conferences, hoping and wanting to be excited. There just wasn't that much to be excited about. I sure as fuck don't want consoles to adopt the iterative model that Nintendo does with the 3DS. No. Way. Hose. A. Bad for the market and bad for gamers.

It's funny how much the thread title sums up my feelings because most of the stuff we saw last year would have been better served being shown this year. Most of the stuff wasn't even bad....just a resounding "meh". In a word....generic.

To be fair, the Dead Rising 4 trailer was great and it looks fun. And I'm excited about Insomniac's Spider-Man game after playing Ratchet and Clank. Plus ... Syberia 3 is coming! But this was not a good E3 for games.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 14, 2016, 10:33:09 AM
Sorry, the answer we were looking for was "Rolaids".

I expect nothing less from a shit for brains like you.

@Ygg. So you're a fan of the big budget, ultra violent, blood and guts, mowing down hoards of humans/zombies/mutants/androids/other human-like enemies, first/third person shooters then eh? Because that made up of most of the last two days conferences. Everything from stuff like We Happy Few to Dead Rising 4 and Gears of Four from Microsoft, to Ubisoft's annual Rainbow Six/Ghost Recon/Division/Hunt for Red October and For Honor, to Sony's mass zombie hoard shooter Days Gone, to EA's predictable Battlefronts and Call of Duties, to Bethesda, just Bethesda, all of it. Comparatively, there were like 4 RPGs, the yearly Forza/Just Dance/other destined to immediately land in shovelware bins and casual gamers' libraries until they sell it off at a garage sale 5 years later games, and a bunch of nondescript trailers/glorified announcements/release dates (especially of the VR stuff which was almost entirely FPSes (yes including FFXVR)) and a pair of cardgames/other merchandise heavy crap like Skylanders.

You love drowning yourself in your projections bit too much pal. Then again, indulging in personal deception is your specialty after all.

I sure as fuck don't want consoles to adopt the iterative model that Nintendo does with the 3DS. No. Way. Hose. A. Bad for the market and bad for gamers.

I agree with that, but is not like is a new initiative that hasn't been taken before with consoles. I'm not a fan of it with all the money it gets to do the upgrade sometimes and all that but I'd say that the option is there to take it, or be fine with what you got. Though, is bothersome when there are features locked in the game by the platform you have. There's no way that's not at least frustrating.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Agent D. on June 14, 2016, 10:33:59 AM
I'm with Lard on this one. 2015 was pretty unbeatable. I mean, the games shown all look entertaining, but it's more of the same stuff we just finished. Days Gone should really just be titled "The Last of Me" since it's almost exactly like a solo Last of Us. Detroit screams Heavy Rain and its ilk, God of War 4 actually looks like Skyrim had a baby with the last of us, Resident Evil 7 going first person...where have I seen that before...

FUCKING SKYLANDERS!?!?!?!? I CAN'T FUCKING FATHOM HOW ANY CRASH FAN WAS ACTUALLY EXCITED BY THAT LUDICROUSLY CHEAPO CASH IN OFF ACTIVISION'S FUCKING CONSOLE MONEYMAKER!!!! (though at least the announced remasters were something...ish)

And then we had Death Stranding...on the one gand KOJIMA POWER!!! On the other hand....what the actual fucknwas that supposed to be aside from a gross ego stroke at how amazing they can make something look? I was left perplexed and lost...even the name makes no sense. Death Stranding? Is he stranded on an island of death? Does he play with the weave of fate and pick individuals strands to end lives? I mean...what?

I mean don't get me wrong, I wanna play them all EXCEPT SKYLANDERS, as I enjoy most of those games shown. I was just left...wanting something else I guess. Maybe because the rpg love was left at home that night (FFXV doesn't count), and as such left a bitter taste in my mouth.

Also, as much as I liked the look of the xbone s, I realize the announcement of it AND the scorpio coming up soon just nailed MS in the foot, and hard. Only desperate individuals are going to buy the S knowing the Scorpio is coming soon. It's likely to blow up in Microsoft's face, as all that money developing a smaller system, and a new system on the horizon...ESPECIALLY with the current install base being as high as it is...what were they thinking?
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Agent D. on June 14, 2016, 10:42:30 AM
Edited because "killin' the mood"
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Arvis on June 14, 2016, 10:56:56 AM
So, completely random and unrelated to this thread question: how exactly does the "Report To Moderator" function work for this forum?  Asking for a friend.

Also, did I read correctly that Jeri Ryan and Levar Burton were both at E3??  Why?  Was there a Star Trek related announcement or something?
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Towns Car Marty on June 14, 2016, 11:00:22 AM
Agent D and Ygg, both of you: Knock it off. This isn't acceptable, it's a just trade show.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 14, 2016, 11:10:58 AM
Also, did I read correctly that Jeri Ryan and Levar Burton were both at E3??  Why?  Was there a Star Trek related announcement or something?

Yes. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=romB8e5nMp8) It was at Ubisoft's show, though, so no one can blame you for missing it.

Also: Ygg, D - killin' the mood.

Why not take this outside? Queue up some Street Fighter or whatever you both play, preferably with voice chat. Probably easier to vent when the digital fists are more appropriately shaped than @'s and Z's, doncha think?

EDIT: Erm, not trying to one-up the staff, just trying to offer an alternative...and possibly some entertainment...
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Starmongoose on June 14, 2016, 11:13:25 AM
So, completely random and unrelated to this thread question: how exactly does the "Report To Moderator" function work for this forum?  Asking for a friend.


You hit the report post button and then I get an email and swoop in with heroic fanfare playing in the background while everyone else rolls their eyes, mostly.

@Agent: Anyway, childish personal attacks make everyone look stupid. It's not going to cause anyone to change their ways, so if you dislike someone so much that you can't help but call them out on it all the time, make full use of the ignore function and your life will be happier.

@Ygg: Tone down your condescension. You are able to express your disagreement in a manner that doesn't try to belittle the other person. It doesn't make you look intelligent, it makes you look petty. I'm honestly really tired of seeing your name pop up in relation to forum drama and whatever soft spot everyone has for you will eventually go away and I'll just ban you. I don't like banning anyone, but you're taking the piss.

Anyway, hopefully we can move on and continue talking about E3.  

Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Klutz64 on June 14, 2016, 11:15:44 AM
Sorry, the answer we were looking for was "Rolaids".

I expect nothing less from a shit for brains like you.

Why the fuck do you even come around here anymore? All you are is toxic poison on here and I'm goddamn sick of the mods playing all coy with you just giving warnings and shit when time and time again you just constantly prove all you're good for is personally insulting forum members who don't share your incredibly naive and hypocritical world views.

So yes, please be so kind as to fuck off back to wherever scum like you comes from.


Note to mods: Apologies for that tirade. But I really am sick of his bullshit on what is otherwise one of the only truly serene havens on the 'net to talk about video games.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 14, 2016, 11:19:02 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/XVoyga8.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/BPYj9Sm.gif)

I forgot how much I missed good open-world Spider-Man games...
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Agent D. on June 14, 2016, 11:20:01 AM
I apologize, I already edited the unsightly comment (I refuse to remove the rolaids one, though, because that was actually funny), and I'll "try" to keep it in line better. I'll leave my swearing and foul language for video games and exaggerated descriptions of women.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Starmongoose on June 14, 2016, 11:20:31 AM
@Klutz64: He can considerate his final warning, he's had more chances than anyone should get to be honest, but it is what it is.

Not everyone needs to jump in now and voice their opinion, I can pretty much guess how most of you feel. If you have anything more to say about the matter, private message me. This topic is going back to E3 or I'll lock it.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Lard on June 14, 2016, 11:22:21 AM

I agree with that, but is not like is a new initiative that hasn't been taken before with consoles. I'm not a fan of it with all the money it gets to do the upgrade sometimes and all that but I'd say that the option is there to take it, or be fine with what you got. Though, is bothersome when there are features locked in the game by the platform you have. There's no way that's not at least frustrating.

It's starting to remind me of what Sega did with all the add-ons like the Sega CD, etc. except instead of buying them separately, we are going to have to buy a new console if we want them. :/

And seriously, weren't they saying the same things about 3-D gaming that they're now saying about 4K gaming?
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Klutz64 on June 14, 2016, 11:23:51 AM
@Starmongoose: S'ok, replacing "consider it" with "considerate" put me right back into a smiley mood, intentional or not.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Rucks on June 14, 2016, 11:24:44 AM
edited on account of seeing Starmongoose's comments and resolving to fit "take the piss" into my regular vocabulary.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Frostillicus on June 14, 2016, 11:25:57 AM
I'm with those who pretty much said "meh" to most of these announcements. I just can't find it in myself to care about 4K gaming this, and sequel that... It's mostly repetitive, substance-lacking shit. Now shown in a higher definition.


(http://i.imgur.com/5AGCBEs.jpg)
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Klutz64 on June 14, 2016, 11:33:03 AM
I will say that Horizon: Zero Dawn is still scratching every itch for me. I love blending fantasy and sci-fi in a terrestrial setting, especially when the sci-fi element involves nondescript robots. And just fighting robots in video games in general has always been something I've enjoyed, especially when the damage and "death" animations are as well done as they are in Horizon. Add in a tightly scripted open world, and yeah... REALLY can't wait to play that game.

Recore very similarly strikes my interests, and that one looks like it's going to have a sort of Zelda format that replaces Link's toolkit with the main character's robot pals. Though not exactly worth the price of an XBox One.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Starmongoose on June 14, 2016, 11:34:34 AM
@Starmongoose: S'ok, replacing "consider it" with "considerate" put me right back into a smiley mood, intentional or not.

Purely accidental. I think my brain decided "Eh, those two things sound the same, close enough!"

Nothing interesting to me personally so far at E3 but based on who has been, I wasn't expecting to. Nintendo and Square Enix should be soon, so I'm more interested in that.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Arvis on June 14, 2016, 11:40:30 AM
Dang... those Spiderman gifs....  O___O

EDIT: Also, thanks for the link to the Star Trek Bridge Crew trailer!  I'll be checking that out later for sure, along with this Horizon thing people are talking about.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 14, 2016, 11:56:46 AM
I will say that Horizon: Zero Dawn is still scratching every itch for me. I love blending fantasy and sci-fi in a terrestrial setting, especially when the sci-fi element involves nondescript robots. And just fighting robots in video games in general has always been something I've enjoyed, especially when the damage and "death" animations are as well done as they are in Horizon. Add in a tightly scripted open world, and yeah... REALLY can't wait to play that game.

Recore very similarly strikes my interests, and that one looks like it's going to have a sort of Zelda format that replaces Link's toolkit with the main character's robot pals. Though not exactly worth the price of an XBox One.

I'm more interested in ReCore personally, but that's probably because the of the faster pacing and brighter color pallette. Besides, Horizon looks a little too much like Far Cry: Primal - Robots Edition for my tastes. Not to say it'd be bad, and the story concept does facinate me greatly, but I'm just not not convinced that it could hold my attention for very long...
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Maxximum on June 14, 2016, 12:44:08 PM
I always enjoy people completely overreacting to game announcements and early non hands on demos.
I remember seeing a clip from an early showing of Skyrim a few years ago. Some guy was showing of basic gameplay. Moved a bit, then took a random sword swing at nothing in particular and at that point the room went nuts. It was insane.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 14, 2016, 01:20:02 PM
@Ygg: Tone down your condescension. You are able to express your disagreement in a manner that doesn't try to belittle the other person.

I did that for years and I am fairly respectful of others, but is of no use to put an appearance for the sake of it when is gonna be a completely lost effort with a few that I'm aware is gonna happen for being around here for a decent chunk of time.

Why the fuck do you even come around here anymore? All you are is toxic poison on here and I'm goddamn sick of the mods playing all coy with you just giving warnings and shit when time and time again you just constantly prove all you're good for is personally insulting forum members who don't share your incredibly naive and hypocritical world views.

So yes, please be so kind as to fuck off back to wherever scum like you comes from.


Note to mods: Apologies for that tirade. But I really am sick of his bullshit on what is otherwise one of the only truly serene havens on the 'net to talk about video games.

I could say the same at you if I wanted, but does that make it true? I don't think so.

It's starting to remind me of what Sega did with all the add-ons like the Sega CD, etc. except instead of buying them separately, we are going to have to buy a new console if we want them. :/

And seriously, weren't they saying the same things about 3-D gaming that they're now saying about 4K gaming?

With 3D it was all about buying a new TV, and these upgrades for consoles we have heard lately are (as they have said) influenced thanks to smartphones and PCs. But unless there is a convenience in the use to the upgrade or actual meaningful support for it, it can fall off like a ton of others things that have shown up for consoles and handhelds before.

I always enjoy people completely overreacting to game announcements and early non hands on demos.
I remember seeing a clip from an early showing of Skyrim a few years ago. Some guy was showing of basic gameplay. Moved a bit, then took a random sword swing at nothing in particular and at that point the room went nuts. It was insane.

I remember that.

I think that reaction was stronger and louder than when Nintendo showed up Twilight Princess. And that was super loud.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Arvis on June 14, 2016, 01:45:04 PM
I always enjoy people completely overreacting to game announcements and early non hands on demos.
I remember seeing a clip from an early showing of Skyrim a few years ago. Some guy was showing of basic gameplay. Moved a bit, then took a random sword swing at nothing in particular and at that point the room went nuts. It was insane.

One of my favorite reactions thus far was for Scalebound.  Someone's reaction to it was "See Squenix, that's how you do big boss fights properly without spending 10 years"

And I'm like "Properly?  Neither game is out!"

And then I realize I'm just old and these people are mostly all young.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 14, 2016, 02:12:15 PM
@Yggrasil - Then it really has to be said: why do you still come here? Why not take a break, or find another community that you might enjoy more?

I'm not even saying this to get you out of here. I've been in similar situations at least 3 times before - communities that I spent too much time on, butting heads with certain regular users who never seem to want to listen to what I have to say; plus all the jerks who always seem to get in the way, and noobs that always ask the same damn questions and drudge up the same damn arguments...but I don't know if that applies here. I don't wanna put a bunch words in your mouth. I just know that it can get frustrating to keep running into problems with the same people all the time. It can make communicating feel hopeless, even when there are interesting things to talk about, and maybe some good people who'll listen.

Sometimes you just need space. I know I just came back from taking a year off from another forum - I had been there since June 2008, and I spent at least half that time arguing in circles with people who couldn't seem to listen to reason. But the time off really helped me clear my head, and gave me time to focus on what's important. I utilized my forum time in places I enjoyed more, and since I've been back, I can barely remember why I used to get so angry, despite most the same idiots still being there. =P

'Course, I seem to recall you mentioning that you've taken extended breaks before, and they didn't help. I know I haven't been here as long as the others, and I certainly won't pretend to know everything about you. But I keep getting the feeling there's something you gotta let go. I don't know what it is, and trying to guess aloud would only be impudent on my part. However, I do know from personal experience that the first step is getting some space.

The only new suggestion I can throw out there is...maybe once E3 has settled down, just take some time away from video game communities in general? I forgot to mention, that year off wasn't just for one forum. I also scaled back my internet usage in general. I think I even took 6 months off from this place, too. Sometimes it's just the constant pressure and drama that always seems to comes with social interaction that you gotta get away from, you know?


__________________________________________________________________________


Breath of the Wild has to be the most appropriate subtitle for what I saw - that was definitely the breath of fresh air I was hoping the new Zelda would be, and it definitely looks wild!
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 14, 2016, 03:21:12 PM
Putting aside Yggs usual forums drama bullshit (seriously guys, we have an Ignore function on these forums for a reason)...

I will say that Horizon: Zero Dawn is still scratching every itch for me. I love blending fantasy and sci-fi in a terrestrial setting, especially when the sci-fi element involves nondescript robots. And just fighting robots in video games in general has always been something I've enjoyed, especially when the damage and "death" animations are as well done as they are in Horizon. Add in a tightly scripted open world, and yeah... REALLY can't wait to play that game.

Recore very similarly strikes my interests, and that one looks like it's going to have a sort of Zelda format that replaces Link's toolkit with the main character's robot pals. Though not exactly worth the price of an XBox One.

Horizon's looking mighty cool there for awhile, but Breath of the Wild is actually looking like it'll do one better yet.

And ReCore is hilariously Megaman-ish. Down to the character's dashes/airdashes. Just replace weapon master weapons with robot buddies.

And seriously. Holy crap is Breath of the Wild feelin' like a breath of fresh air.


I always enjoy people completely overreacting to game announcements and early non hands on demos.
I remember seeing a clip from an early showing of Skyrim a few years ago. Some guy was showing of basic gameplay. Moved a bit, then took a random sword swing at nothing in particular and at that point the room went nuts. It was insane.

I still recall the nonsense that was White Knight Chronicles' E3 trailer as that was nothing but lies.

And then there's basically anything shown by Ubisoft where their game looks all cool and freeform and such, but then you stop and think about it and you realize that there's no way that what happened in that trailer could actually happen unless it was entirely scripted since gamers are usually either far more efficient or far more incompetent.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Arvis on June 14, 2016, 04:34:13 PM
I still recall the nonsense that was White Knight Chronicles' E3 trailer as that was nothing but lies.

Still sort of angry about that, I'll be honest.  That's an ember of betrayal that has glowed for like 7 or 8 years now.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 14, 2016, 06:40:06 PM
@Mickeymac92: Some rocks don't like being kicked, simple as that.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: MeshGearFox on June 14, 2016, 06:42:28 PM
I liked that one game they showed where you slowly backpedal through a monotone sepia environment while shooting hitsponge zombies with a BB gun.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Lard on June 14, 2016, 06:47:37 PM
All I want are release dates for DQ 7 and Etrian Odyssey 5
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 14, 2016, 09:56:36 PM
All I want are release dates for DQ 7 and Etrian Odyssey 5

Not gonna lie, that's all I need right now, too...
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 15, 2016, 02:27:30 AM
I liked that one game they showed where you slowly backpedal through a monotone sepia environment while shooting hitsponge zombies with a BB gun.

You're gonna need to be more specific.


I hate to say this, but I think I may have spoken too soon on this one. Nintendo might have actually won this year's E3 by betting everything on The Shadow of Zenoblade Chronicles: Call of the Wild versus Sony's The "About goddamn time!" Guardian release date announcement, the Tomb Raider of War reboot or Kojima's Trolling; or Microsoft's "Wait. Are they actually acknowledging that Japanese game developers exist?" showing of FFXV or their continued strategy of shooting themselves in the foot with Projekt </Scorpio>.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Arvis on June 15, 2016, 09:37:03 AM
The Shadow of Zenoblade Chronicles: Call of the Wild

Gonna need some details on this one.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Monsoon on June 15, 2016, 09:49:09 AM
All I want are release dates for DQ 7 and Etrian Odyssey 5
I think it's extremely likely we get that DQ VII release date announcement this week. There was a rumor that retailers are already clearing shelf space for it over the weekend, and I think they're still claiming a Q3 date for it. I was kinda expecting / hoping we'd get a date at their press conference yesterday, but alas no.

Etrian V I have no idea.  Altus has a pretty big E3 booth and I didn't see Etrian V stuff anywhere. Maybe they'll show it today or tomorrow?
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Lard on June 15, 2016, 09:51:23 AM
Unfortunately, I think EO5 will have more of a presence at TGS.

I'm really hoping we get DQ7 this summer and DQ8 this fall.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 15, 2016, 10:07:38 AM
I believe the DQs were delayed to after Lun- I mean after the Summer. Now it's "Late 2016," last I checked...

...I'm hungry...
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Starmongoose on June 15, 2016, 03:54:06 PM
For some reason this thread got locked. I've unlocked it - no one did anything wrong.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Agent D. on June 15, 2016, 03:58:22 PM
For some reason this thread got locked. I've unlocked it - no one did anything wrong.
Correction, we're all just fucking horrible people and don't deserve good threads, so you reopened this one for us horrible people to keep polluting with hate filled speech and complaints!
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Starmongoose on June 15, 2016, 04:31:15 PM
Have you ever played Roller Coaster Tycoon. Did you ever build a little 4x4 purgatory for anyone who dares to complain about your park and make them live out the rest of their lives there?

Yeah. That's this thread for you guys. :D
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Maxximum on June 15, 2016, 06:42:00 PM
For some reason this thread got locked. I've unlocked it - no one did anything wrong.

Apparently, even the forum had enough of the drama :)
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 15, 2016, 10:10:47 PM
Have you ever played Roller Coaster Tycoon. Did you ever build a little 4x4 purgatory for anyone who dares to complain about your park and make them live out the rest of their lives there?

Yeah. That's this thread for you guys. :D

Nah man. This is more like Mr. Bone's Wild Ride. Just a neverending ride of tepidation and stops that only lead directly back onto the ride.


The Shadow of Zenoblade Chronicles: Call of the Wild

Gonna need some details on this one.

I'm of course referring to the new Legend of Zelda as a portmanteau of the titles of Shadow of the Colossus, Xenoblade Chronicles (either one) with a Z as both an homage to the mistranslation in FFVII and to try to keep something recognizable from the original title, and Jack London's Call of the Wild (because, Breath of the Wild? seriously!?; also because Wolf Link and the fact that they kept showing off colder regions during the videos).
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 15, 2016, 11:22:46 PM
Wait, you guys were actually serious about Wolf Link?!

*Checks Trailer*

...Dog Meat? Is that you?

Damn, now I sort of regret not getting the amiibo. Hopefully they can include it as DLC eventually...I mean, c'mon...
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 16, 2016, 02:32:55 AM
Wait, you guys were actually serious about Wolf Link?!

*Checks Trailer*

...Dog Meat? Is that you?

Damn, now I sort of regret not getting the amiibo. Hopefully they can include it as DLC eventually...I mean, c'mon...

Sounds like you're gonna need both the game and the Amiibo to do anything with it. It'll probably get outdated fairly quickly as well (unless you managed a no-damage run or something crazy; at which point you probably wouldn't need it anyways).
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Towns Car Marty on June 16, 2016, 02:40:46 AM
Man. FFXV, DQ7, Cold Steel 2, Psycho Pass and possibly SMT4 Apocalypse, all in September. My wallet and my schedule are crying.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Ranadiel on June 16, 2016, 06:37:13 AM
Wait, you guys were actually serious about Wolf Link?!

*Checks Trailer*

...Dog Meat? Is that you?

Damn, now I sort of regret not getting the amiibo. Hopefully they can include it as DLC eventually...I mean, c'mon...
You can still pick up the amiibo on its own if you really want it. It is over MSRP on Amazon though. Doubt they are going to release it as DLC on its own.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 16, 2016, 05:26:33 PM
from Polygon (http://www.polygon.com/e3/2016/6/13/11919114/chris-avellone-prey-2-bethesda-arkane-studios):

(http://i.imgur.com/q75RqN3.gif)

"Chris Avellone, Obsidian Entertainment co-founder and the company's former chief creative officer, is working on Bethesda Softworks and Arkane Studios' new Prey, the game developer announced today.

Avellone announced his departure from Obsidian last year, saying he was leaving the studio he helped form in 2003 "to pursue new projects." Today, he announced his involvement in Prey on Twitter (https://twitter.com/ChrisAvellone/status/742211783134306304).

It's not exactly clear what Avellone's role is on the new Prey, but we've inquired with Bethesda Softworks for more details.

Avellone started his career writing campaigns role-playing games, before joining Interplay in 1995. At Interplay, Avellone worked on a number of titles including Fallout 2, Planescape: Torment, Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance and the Icewind Dale titles. Later, at Obsidian and with inXile Entertainment, Avellone worked on Fallout: New Vegas, Pillars of Eternity, Wasteland 2 and Torment: Tides of Numenera."
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 16, 2016, 08:22:17 PM
Wait, you guys were actually serious about Wolf Link?!

*Checks Trailer*

...Dog Meat? Is that you?

Damn, now I sort of regret not getting the amiibo. Hopefully they can include it as DLC eventually...I mean, c'mon...

Sounds like you're gonna need both the game and the Amiibo to do anything with it. It'll probably get outdated fairly quickly as well (unless you managed a no-damage run or something crazy; at which point you probably wouldn't need it anyways).

I got Twilight Princess HD, if that's what you mean. But I decided to save myself $15 and some much-needed shelf space by buying it used, thus missing out on the Amiibo. Oh well, you're probably right about it not being that important in the long run, but as a Wolf-Lover, and a huge fan of Twilight Princess, it's exactly the kind of fanservice I could get into...
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 17, 2016, 10:19:16 AM
New Games I'm Interested in After E3:


1)  The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Wii U/NX)
2)  Ever Oasis (3DS)
3)  Exile's End (3DS eShop)
4)  *Rhythm Heaven Remix (3DS eShop)

* I didn't know about this one until it came out!


1)  Tekken 7 (PS4)
2)  Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (PS4)
3)  Gravity Rush 2 (PS4)
4)  Spider-Man (PS4)
5)  *Yakuza 0 (PS4)
6)  Resident Evil 7 (PS4)
7)  Nioh (PS4)
8)  Prey (PS4)
9)  Titanfall 2 (PS4)
10) Fe (PS4)
11) Farpoint (PS VR)
12) Rabi-Rabi (PS4)

* I didn't realize it was releasing in English until E3


1)  ReCore
2)  Quake Champions

...Honestly, this list feels disturbingly empty for an E3 presentation. I guess 'cuz most of the interesting stuff were announced, and even shown well beforehand. Heck, some of the the stuff I listed were announced last E3, albeit without any substantial gameplay shown at the time. I guess the times really are a-changin'...
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 17, 2016, 03:01:38 PM
"Last year's E3 was better."

(http://i.imgur.com/4pT2lHh.jpg)

This year's E3 showed a heck of a lot of variety, an uncharacteristic type exciting uncertainty about the future for an event that is all about that, and seeing massive long-awaited projects taking form, actually coming out and looking solid was the cherry on top.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 17, 2016, 03:09:44 PM
https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/05/13

I just got a feeling.

_________________________________________________

Does Caligula's localization announcement still count as an E3 reveal? That way I can bump up the Playstation list to a baker's dozen...
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Aeolus on June 17, 2016, 04:14:54 PM
https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/05/13

I just got a feeling.

_________________________________________________

Does Caligula's localization announcement still count as an E3 reveal? That way I can bump up the Playstation list to a baker's dozen...

I mean sure, if you think that'll help anything given how completely derivative and uninspired it looks, but I wouldn't count it with Sony's scorecard since the date was revealed separate from the press conference.

(For precedent, the FE:Awakening localization announcement was not counted for Nintendo's E3 2012's presentation as it was given out 5 minutes after the fact and required pressing Reggie for the info. A fact that cost them the win as that was literally all they had to do that year to win it. In fact they basically wasted the segment on flaffing about with Paper Mario: Sticker Star instead.)
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 17, 2016, 09:44:36 PM
Dude, I have Titanfall 2 and an indie Metroidvania that I only put on there to round out the numbers, and the only other thing I could think of to list was the new Call of Duty game (at least it'll have space battles w/ FPS boarding segments...now all it needs is Space Samurai, and I'll finally have that Battlefront sequel I always wanted...). Even a blatant Persona ripoff will do at this point, since I'm already scraping the bottom of the barrel...
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 17, 2016, 09:48:14 PM
Some of you might want to check out the chat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf-waCLegOo&t=23m0s) that Giant Bomb had with Phil Spencer on their live stream (the section ends around the 1 hour and 8 minutes mark).

---

TEKKEN 7 PC Gameplay (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cknGB1NC55c) -- GameSpot, YouTube

5 casual matches along with showing up the story mode in the middle for a bit.

https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/05/13

I just got a feeling.

(http://i.imgur.com/Cxg9f8u.png?3)
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: Mickeymac92 on June 17, 2016, 09:57:32 PM
^Not gonna lie, I only posted that link as an excuse to read more best-era Penny-Arcade comics (they actually used to go more than 5 strips without a beastiality joke!), but now it is doubly worth it. XD

________________________________________________________________

EDIT:

Looks like the real meat of E3 - the preview articles - are finally coming in. Damn near all the ones here have gotten me excited for stuff I never even considered. Except the Warhammer one (I'm not a huge fan of the franchise's grotesque elements, and Inquisitor just seems to emphasize all of the worst parts of that...), and MieQ (which just seems to be more Compile Hearts filler, but at least the preview confirmed that). The Dwarves probably isn't my thing either.

But everything else - The Surge, The Long Journey Home, the new Deus Ex mode (and by extension, Mankind Divided, which I completely ignored after its announcement), Necropolis, Tumbleweed Park, Battlechasers: Nightwar, the freakin' Witcher Card Game...Everything!

My wallet despises you guys. Thank you.
Title: Re: E3 2016: E3 2015 was better Edition.
Post by: MeshGearFox on June 23, 2016, 06:21:34 PM
Speaking of meat, but

Did I mention that it was like a full two days after E3 that I realized that Norman Reedus was a real person and not some Laura-esque digital actor thing that Kojima was trying to do, and also that his last name was neither Reetus nor intended to rhyme with "Fetus?"

You miss a lot when you don't have cable TV!