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Title: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Starmongoose on February 18, 2017, 05:10:35 PM
Talk about Fire Emblem Heroes and updates here.

I'll let you know if I ever get a 5 Star.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on February 18, 2017, 05:22:14 PM
Ok, I'm ready to post!

Although... I have nothing to update.  Except that I am sorry for anyone who draws three of me in one pack.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 18, 2017, 05:23:41 PM
Well I just finished grinding my backup 5*s to level 40. So I now have 8 lvl 40 5*s. I should probably figure out what everyone's Bane/Boon is. I figured out Julia's yesterday and she is not anywhere close to being optimal (but I love her voice and artwork so I might keep using her despite it being a bad idea). I think her stat spread was +ATK, -SPD, +DEF, -RES.

Since I am out of 5*s to train, I have started to train Eliwood up to see if I can get him to start killing level 35 enemies before the month ends so I can get the last of the month's lunatic missions.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on February 18, 2017, 05:45:18 PM
My second draw was all 4-stars, and the only one of those that really seemed worthwhile is kind of redundant with my 5-star Lucina.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 18, 2017, 06:14:54 PM
Oh yeah since I got a bunch of 5*s to level 40, might as well give my thoughts on their "devotional" speeches that they give level 40 (I've read the speeches only trigger for 5*s, but I haven't gotten a 4* or lower to 40 to test whether that is true or not).

Robin- Who is this Alfonse you speak of? I feel like I would know if I had a bond with someone by that name.

Hawkeye- It was alright. It really fit him as a character in the sense that it was kind of deep, but also kind of boring. XP

Takumi- I was meh on this one, but I feel like Tomara would love it.

Lyn- I feel like there is more of an implied romance angle to the female speeches than the male ones. I could kind of see the implied romance with Takumi, but it feels much more blatant with Lyn (and Julia).

Fae- Very uninteresting. Basically she just comments about how fun hanging out with you is and then falls asleep. I suppose I should be glad that this one is free of implied romantic feelings?

Camilla- Oh god this one is kind of frightening. She apparently doesn't care who the heck she is being the "big sister" to or why. I almost feel like I should send her home just so I don't have to worry about her going yandere on my in game character.

Julia- I like this one a lot...despite the very heavy implied romantic feelings. >.>

Seliph- This one is actually my favorite. It shows an aspect of the character that I was not familiar with and I would very much like to learn more about it. Specifically he talks about himself as a coward who constantly wants to run from danger and who only managed to do what he did thanks to being inspired by his friends. I don't remember that being in FE4. So I'm wondering if that was in the original and I forgot/missed the nuances/used a translation that missed the nuances or if it was a later addition to his character. Whichever it is, I would love to see it explored more throughly in a (hopefully inevitable) FE4 remake.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 18, 2017, 09:00:17 PM
Oh yeah since I got a bunch of 5*s to level 40, might as well give my thoughts on their "devotional" speeches that they give level 40 (I've read the speeches only trigger for 5*s, but I haven't gotten a 4* or lower to 40 to test whether that is true or not).

Robin- Who is this Alfonse you speak of? I feel like I would know if I had a bond with someone by that name.

Hawkeye- It was alright. It really fit him as a character in the sense that it was kind of deep, but also kind of boring. XP

Takumi- I was meh on this one, but I feel like Tomara would love it.

Lyn- I feel like there is more of an implied romance angle to the female speeches than the male ones. I could kind of see the implied romance with Takumi, but it feels much more blatant with Lyn (and Julia).

Fae- Very uninteresting. Basically she just comments about how fun hanging out with you is and then falls asleep. I suppose I should be glad that this one is free of implied romantic feelings?

Camilla- Oh god this one is kind of frightening. She apparently doesn't care who the heck she is being the "big sister" to or why. I almost feel like I should send her home just so I don't have to worry about her going yandere on my in game character.

Julia- I like this one a lot...despite the very heavy implied romantic feelings. >.>

Seliph- This one is actually my favorite. It shows an aspect of the character that I was not familiar with and I would very much like to learn more about it. Specifically he talks about himself as a coward who constantly wants to run from danger and who only managed to do what he did thanks to being inspired by his friends. I don't remember that being in FE4. So I'm wondering if that was in the original and I forgot/missed the nuances/used a translation that missed the nuances or if it was a later addition to his character. Whichever it is, I would love to see it explored more throughly in a (hopefully inevitable) FE4 remake.

Seliph's referring to the timeskip and why they're starting out cornered in one of the northern most regions on the continent. Lief also gets chased around in Leonster before the events of FE5 (where he still gets harassed and chased around before bungling an insurrection). Also Seliph doesn't actually defeats the big bad of his game (and is the only main lord of the series that doesn't get a chance/isn't equipped for it; Lief doesn't count since he's not the main lord in FE4 and there aren't any big bads for FE5).


Also, still banging my head on that 6-5 Infantry Mission (I keep losing someone due to Kagero or Ryoma, but I'm fielding a B-Team for this and its close).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 19, 2017, 07:04:50 AM
Seliph's referring to the timeskip and why they're starting out cornered in one of the northern most regions on the continent. Lief also gets chased around in Leonster before the events of FE5 (where he still gets harassed and chased around before bungling an insurrection). Also Seliph doesn't actually defeats the big bad of his game (and is the only main lord of the series that doesn't get a chance/isn't equipped for it; Lief doesn't count since he's not the main lord in FE4 and there aren't any big bads for FE5).
That doesn't sound right to me. They are in Isaac at the beginning of chapter 6 because it is friendly territory to them thanks to Shannon. They are in the northern most portion of Isaac because it is governed from a castle to the south of Isaac giving them more breathing room away from the main occupying forces while the liberation army builds up their forces. Nothing about that really says "coward" or "uncertain about himself" to me. Plus at the start of chapter 6, I'm not even sure whether Seliph is even in control of the Liberation Army.

Levin was the one who seems to first put forth the idea of Seliph leading, and while Seliph is reluctant when Levin first proposes the ides, he relents after a speech about destiny (and not any examples from his friends like his Heroes speech is about). Before that, I think the leaders are supposed to be Oifley and Shannon meaning they would be responsible for the decision on starting base location.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Starmongoose on February 19, 2017, 07:10:35 AM
New Pack:

4* Eliwood
4* Laslow
3* Lon'qu
3* Robin (M)
3* Donnel

*Sighs*
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 19, 2017, 12:37:13 PM
New Pack:

4* Eliwood
4* Laslow
3* Lon'qu
3* Robin (M)
3* Donnel

*Sighs*

Not a terrible cluster. 4 stars Eliwood is the best we're gonna get outta him without a Focus, and I've had good luck with my 4 star Laslow, plus even though he's 3 stars, Male Robin was a Focus character and one you can get an arena bonus from, though yeah, Donnel sucks (at least you can retire your freebie Donnels).


Seliph's referring to the timeskip and why they're starting out cornered in one of the northern most regions on the continent. Lief also gets chased around in Leonster before the events of FE5 (where he still gets harassed and chased around before bungling an insurrection). Also Seliph doesn't actually defeats the big bad of his game (and is the only main lord of the series that doesn't get a chance/isn't equipped for it; Lief doesn't count since he's not the main lord in FE4 and there aren't any big bads for FE5).
That doesn't sound right to me. They are in Isaac at the beginning of chapter 6 because it is friendly territory to them thanks to Shannon. They are in the northern most portion of Isaac because it is governed from a castle to the south of Isaac giving them more breathing room away from the main occupying forces while the liberation army builds up their forces. Nothing about that really says "coward" or "uncertain about himself" to me. Plus at the start of chapter 6, I'm not even sure whether Seliph is even in control of the Liberation Army.

Levin was the one who seems to first put forth the idea of Seliph leading, and while Seliph is reluctant when Levin first proposes the ides, he relents after a speech about destiny (and not any examples from his friends like his Heroes speech is about). Before that, I think the leaders are supposed to be Oifley and Shannon meaning they would be responsible for the decision on starting base location.

Shanan and Olifey are the organizers of the Liberation Army (consisting of themselves, Seliph, the Wunder/Blunder Twins and Staffbot with(out) a Staff), but Gen 2 starts while the two of them are out of town and on business, and said Liberation Army gets caught with their pants down. Between that, the fact that word is beginning to spread about Seliph being the 'chosen one', and the fact that there's nowhere else left to run, basically forces him to say "screw it, we're going deep" (and then they proceed to steamroll Gen 2 because even without the eugenics, there's plenty of Legendaries to go around this time, and not that great writing to cause issues beyond Julius and his ultra clingy girlfriend).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Starmongoose on February 19, 2017, 01:31:34 PM
Don't tell me about the meta or how good they are Aeolus!!!

ALL THAT MATTERS IS GOOOOLLDD
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 19, 2017, 03:24:54 PM
Don't tell me about the meta or how good they are Aeolus!!!

ALL THAT MATTERS IS GOOOOLLDD

At least all your gold aren't all up in the incest (seriously, Ephraim, Raven and Camilla; mister "I totally don't want to bang my sister even though we get a paired ending together and our weapons are named after two mythological siblings who totally did the nasty", mister "I'd bang my sister if I weren't gay", and miss "due to the weirdness about how same gendered S-ranks work, I can only bang my brother and not my sister even though I'm OCD for them both").


Also, finally finished up Feburary's missions. Gotta Arena like a bitch for the next couple of days and I'll be as done as I can be.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on February 19, 2017, 03:54:23 PM
Just picked up my second 5-star, an Effie. Anyone have experience using an armor knight? They often seem like sitting ducks to me.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 19, 2017, 06:20:16 PM
Just picked up my second 5-star, an Effie. Anyone have experience using an armor knight? They often seem like sitting ducks to me.

They have HUGE HP, Def and Atk and can be unstoppable if you're up against physicals without type advantage against you. Tome/Stone users will pretty much eat them for breakfast though (especially if they employ body blocking or terrain works against you), and Armor Effective weapons aren't uncommon at higher levels.

Effie herself is only behind Hector in highest overall stats, so she's not a bad substitute for a 5 star.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on February 19, 2017, 07:50:04 PM
Thanks Aeolus. I might swap her in then once I level her up. Currently, Sharena (2-star) is still my go-to blue unit. which is stupid, really, because I have some much better 3- and 4-star fliers, but she's a higher level at the moment!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 19, 2017, 10:16:45 PM
Thanks Aeolus. I might swap her in then once I level her up. Currently, Sharena (2-star) is still my go-to blue unit. which is stupid, really, because I have some much better 3- and 4-star fliers, but she's a higher level at the moment!

I'd highly recommend dumping some feathers towards your OGs since I suspect the game will eventually call for some kind of bullshit that requires them at a reasonable powerlevel (even if it will reset their levels and stats back to level 1).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on February 19, 2017, 10:48:05 PM
Yeah, I'd been contemplating that since at least 2-3 star is pretty cheap. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on February 20, 2017, 12:50:43 AM
The 4-star Tiki I got in my second draw is turning out to be a lot more useful than I thought a close-range mage would be.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 20, 2017, 02:04:34 AM
The 4-star Tiki I got in my second draw is turning out to be a lot more useful than I thought a close-range mage would be.

Both Tikis are really good since they get Lightning Breath(+) for 1~2 range shenanigans and Stones target Res which is generally less protected.


Currently debating on whether or not I should pull again this focus. I have the orbs for it, but I suspect there's going to be a more substantial rotation update in March (then again, I still do not have Lyn, Eirika or some of my other wants; decisions, decisions...).

Mission Fake Edit: Also I hope you guys have been raising a variety of physical weapon users because new missions just popped up and you're gonna need a full team of each.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 20, 2017, 06:21:59 AM
Mission Fake Edit: Also I hope you guys have been raising a variety of physical weapon users because new missions just popped up and you're gonna need a full team of each.
Hahaha....no. I have trained 4 sword users, 2 axe users, 2 tome users of different colors, 1 dragonstone user, 1 bow user, and 0 spear users. So I guess technically I have trained a good variety of weapon users, but you can easily guess which of this week's missions I am going to have the hardest time with. x_x
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on February 20, 2017, 03:53:23 PM
I'll probably prioritise the orbs in those new missions (which aren't too hard anyway), then work on training up more teams after that. I have 3 solid axe/sword/spear users, so really just need a fourth for each.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 20, 2017, 05:18:43 PM
...whelp I'm going to get some more hate for this. I got two more 5*s this morning. I had a lot of orbs left over from what I bought for Seliph and Julia that I decided to draw to try and get a 5* spear user for the new missions. Decided to draw some greens (in hopes of getting Hector) and reds (because I still want those 4 cut scene summons I am missing) while I was at it (some day I may actually draw colorless as well). Highlights of my draws (which were more than I had planned on doing) are 4* Chrom, an extra 5* Julia, and a 5* Azura.

So yeah that happened. >.>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Starmongoose on February 20, 2017, 05:21:37 PM
[User: Ranadiel was banned.]
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 20, 2017, 05:26:23 PM
[User: Ranadiel was banned.]
Aww that is no way to treat someone just because they were born with a high luck stat...also I think the ban missed and hit a random bystander. Since dodge formula is based on luck and all. :p
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on February 20, 2017, 05:41:57 PM
I had a dream that this game gave me 20 Orbs for free.  So disappointed this morning.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on February 20, 2017, 05:54:56 PM
Getting good draws from orbs you bought isn't really good luck, though. I'd consider it normal luck if my money didn't go to waste and shitty luck if it did.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 20, 2017, 06:21:36 PM
[User: Ranadiel was banned.]
Aww that is no way to treat someone just because they were born with a high luck stat...also I think the ban missed and hit a random bystander. Since dodge formula is based on luck and all. :p

You get 1/2 a point of Avoid for every point of Luck you have and we're rolling Fates levels of weighted RNG towards Hit (also Luck caps out at 35, have fun dodging anything with more than 17% chance to hit).

Anyways, broke down and pulled and immediately regretted it. 4 star Caeda and a 3 star Sully were the only new draws this time, everyone else was a 3 star repeat except Bartre who's a 4 star repeat.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on February 21, 2017, 02:57:25 AM
[User: Ranadiel was banned.]
Aww that is no way to treat someone just because they were born with a high luck stat...also I think the ban missed and hit a random bystander. Since dodge formula is based on luck and all. :p

You get 1/2 a point of Avoid for every point of Luck you have and we're rolling Fates levels of weighted RNG towards Hit (also Luck caps out at 35, have fun dodging anything with more than 17% chance to hit).

The stat on its own is one thing. You have to keep all factors in mind. Is Ranadiel using a weapon or other items that boosts luck or dodge? What are his parents' luck caps? Does he have any skills that could affect the outcome? Has he teamed up with anyone to increase relevant stats and complete his skill set? Even if he isn't dodging all the time, if we're looking at a 100% Miracle build, you might need to pull an Astra Ban to get it to stick.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on February 21, 2017, 03:01:35 PM
Seems I can post in this thread.  Wonder what's going on with Aeolus?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Starmongoose on February 21, 2017, 03:34:22 PM
He ran out of stamina?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 21, 2017, 07:35:04 PM
He ran out of stamina?

That might actually have been the case (as I seem to have been posting quite a bit in this thread lately).

Also, it is unfortunate that those weapon Missions are for physical types only as they seem to love throwing you against Armors with type advantage against you.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tooker on February 21, 2017, 08:38:22 PM
Would you like to buy five more posting gems for $1.99?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 21, 2017, 09:31:57 PM
So status update for the day. I have cleared all the mastery missions except the lunatic ones because I do not care enough about great seals to raise up armorslayer/heavy lance/axe equivalent. I've already got more than 20 of each and it takes about 2 months to get enough feathers to use them.

I have been spending time level grinding. Got Azura up to level 40. Eliwood is up to level 38 because got nothing better to spend stamina on. Once I finish with Eliwood might just start leveling up the default characters. Doubt I'll ever make all three of them 5*, but it is better for my wallet than drawing to get more 5*s to level up to 40 (although I still want a Hector to complete my FE7 lord collection). >.>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on February 22, 2017, 09:30:47 AM
Reading Ranadiel's posts makes me want to drop this game now as opposed to later.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Mickeymac92 on February 22, 2017, 10:19:45 AM
^Aye. And I haven't even started playing it yet. I think I'll delete it, though. At least the review was fun to read.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on February 22, 2017, 10:29:38 AM
Honestly I keep it on my phone simply because I *can* play it for about 20-30 minutes a week total and not feel like I'm missing out.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Starmongoose on February 22, 2017, 10:39:18 AM
I'm over it, but i'll log in now and again.

Maybe I'm just salty I don't have any way to get orbs now unless I do lunatic maps and I never got a 5* :(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Mickeymac92 on February 22, 2017, 01:54:47 PM
Honestly I keep it on my phone simply because I *can* play it for about 20-30 minutes a week total and not feel like I'm missing out.

Personally, I find that to be the antithesis of playing a game, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 22, 2017, 05:25:01 PM
As an fyi, Female Robin is apparently going up tomorrow as an event battle. Although I have apparently scared off half the board from playing, so I guess it is kind of a moot point? >.>

Reading Ranadiel's posts makes me want to drop this game now as opposed to later.
Good job me? O.o
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 22, 2017, 06:56:30 PM
Now see, I've yet to drop a single cent on this game because I know it isn't worth it, but so far I've been doing well enough just with whatever came my way. Admittedly, even having a 5 star unit doesn't mean anything since it seems that Raven just straight up sucks, while my 4 star Cordelia kicks more ass than my 5 star Camilla.

That said, I'm still not looking forward to the Lunatic Arena grind since 80 goddamn battles is a bit much (60 would've not have been so utterly ridiculous, or if they had given us a full month to spend the daily Duel Swords on).

And with that said, yeah. 50 Stamina is just too low since a bunch of Lunatic Story Mode Battles require somewhere between 16~23 stamina per go, and though the recharge rate is generous enough, the low cap means that ideally you're back at it within 3~4 hours which is a rather inconvenient amount of time.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 22, 2017, 07:25:56 PM
Eh, I don't mind giving some money to support the game. *shrug*

Not familiar with Cordelia's kit. I vaguely recall hearing that she is one of the better lance users though. Camilla on the other hand has issues with the red heavy meta/enemy units.

I have no intention of going for the lunatic arena mission. I think I have enough dueling swords to pull it off, but no that is a ridiculous amount.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 23, 2017, 06:17:39 AM
Eh, I don't mind giving some money to support the game. *shrug*

Not familiar with Cordelia's kit. I vaguely recall hearing that she is one of the better lance users though. Camilla on the other hand has issues with the red heavy meta/enemy units.

I have no intention of going for the lunatic arena mission. I think I have enough dueling swords to pull it off, but no that is a ridiculous amount.

Cordelia's kit is all about Alpha Striking Red Units. She sports a Brave Lance/+, a fairly large Atk score (40 at lv 40 4 star; Brave Lance+ would make it 44 before 5 star growths), and Triangle Advantage (which ups type advantage damage at the cost of type disadvantage damage). At 4 stars, the best you can do is Astra for activation skills (takes forever to charge, but adds 150% damage to the next hit), but at 5 stars you can choose between Astra and Galeforce for hit and run shenanigans (though it still takes forever to charge).

Camilla meanwhile is all about Savage Blow and not dying immediately. Even with Brave Axe+ and 5 star growth, my Camilla has 37 Atk, which isn't all that great, but she does get a +6 Spd bonus for attacking (which can lead to some unlikely doubles, even in the face of the Brave weapon penalty) and Moonbow is relatively quick to charge and can turn a series of light hits into a one-round KO. Of course, Camilla still lacks power and her HP total keeps her from tanking for any significant length of time.


That being said, new focus that I literally do not care about (4 star Fir's already on my A team (and dragging it down since she's only a 4 star), and I've got two Adult Tiki's to begin with).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 23, 2017, 06:29:17 AM
That being said, new focus that I literally do not care about (4 star Fir's already on my A team (and dragging it down since she's only a 4 star), and I've got two Adult Tiki's to begin with).
Oh yeah the next focus is going to suck. I think all four of the units in the next focus are usable...but that is about the best that can be said for most of them. Although I think my Hawkeye might have helped make Female Robin's mission easy for me thanks to his high res and attack debuff aura. But that was a specialized case.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on February 23, 2017, 10:09:35 AM
Doing a 20-orb pull now.  Here goes:

1. 3* Oboro.  I like the character, at least.  "The clothing you and your friends wear here is very stylish. Impressed!"

2. 4* Wrys.  Seems like a good healer with his Reconcile ability.  "How can a humble curate help you today?"

3. 3* Stahl.  Like this character, too.  "Why are you star-? Pfft, is my hair sticking up again?"

4. 3* Shanna.  No idea who this is.  Another Pegasus knight, but I already have a 4* Catria at lvl 20.  "Hm? Need something? You name it and I'm on it!"

5. 3* Gwendolyn.  I have her already.


Well, that was officially my worst-ever pull.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on February 23, 2017, 02:45:31 PM
That's your worst?!

My worst was... terrible. Takumi was a focus character at the time and the batch of orbs contained four neutrals. I thought: "This is it! The odds will never be better!"

One 3* Wrys (my third), one 3* Matthew and two 3* Virions (my fourth and fifth, IIRC) later, I started to wonder if my phone was feeling suicidal. The blue and final orb was a 4* Oboro and I love her, so it was not a total loss, but still...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on February 23, 2017, 03:55:02 PM
Anyone cleared the Hard Female Robin map? I'm getting slaughtered with my low-res main team. :P Cleared Normal though...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on February 23, 2017, 04:09:34 PM
That's your worst?!

My worst was... terrible. Takumi was a focus character at the time and the batch of orbs contained four neutrals. I thought: "This is it! The odds will never be better!"

One 3* Wrys (my third), one 3* Matthew and two 3* Virions (my fourth and fifth, IIRC) later, I started to wonder if my phone was feeling suicidal. The blue and final orb was a 4* Oboro and I love her, so it was not a total loss, but still...

I'd say that's about equal.  You got dupes in the same pull, but my one 4* was a healer.  Yours might still be worse, but not by much.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 23, 2017, 06:08:56 PM
Oh hey when I posted earlier I didn't realize that the "new" focus is already up. Wonder what the focus next week is going to be. I have seen a lot of people suggesting we might be getting the poll winners, but I think that is just what they are hoping for.

Anyone cleared the Hard Female Robin map? I'm getting slaughtered with my low-res main team. :P Cleared Normal though...
Yeah, my Hawkeye tanked that room. I think his Res is so high that the only one who could harm him was the red mage due to color triangle advantage. Then I threw in a mage tank to help him slaughter the room. Went in expecting to die like I did with Narcian several times, but I happened to bring a team that worked well on this map.

Female Robin...is adequate? I think best way to describe her is that she is a decent unit with a niche (anti-spear and anti-cavalier) that does not match the current meta (which is red heavy and almost absent any sort of cavalier).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 23, 2017, 09:08:09 PM
Anyone cleared the Hard Female Robin map? I'm getting slaughtered with my low-res main team. :P Cleared Normal though...

I had more trouble with Normal than Hard since I wasn't using my A-team and its level 39 'member of this anti-Grand Hero Battle Focus' Fir. My winning strategy was to have Fir trigger the trap, then Camilla Bomb and clean up with Fir. I didn't even need the other half of my team.

But its amusing that yeah, the most recent Focus is entirely about arming you with a character who can defeat the trap.


Doing a 20-orb pull now.  Here goes:

1. 3* Oboro.  I like the character, at least.  "The clothing you and your friends wear here is very stylish. Impressed!"

2. 4* Wrys.  Seems like a good healer with his Reconcile ability.  "How can a humble curate help you today?"

3. 3* Stahl.  Like this character, too.  "Why are you star-? Pfft, is my hair sticking up again?"

4. 3* Shanna.  No idea who this is.  Another Pegasus knight, but I already have a 4* Catria at lvl 20.  "Hm? Need something? You name it and I'm on it!"

5. 3* Gwendolyn.  I have her already.


Well, that was officially my worst-ever pull.

Wrys is actually the worst healer available since Rejuvenate kinda requires putting him in harm's way, his stat gains are garbage, and it slows down his ability cooldown. His other gimmick is mass healing the party, but only for 10 HP each, and only affects the units that you aren't healing (even Azama provides a Def buff which can be useful regardless to the state of your team's health).

Shanna is one of the Pegasus Trio from FE6 (aka the one with Roy in it). She's better known as miss "Watch out for Arrows!". She's also one of seven potential waifus for Roy (where its Roy who tells Shanna to 'watch out for arrows'; the others include Lilina, Sophia, Sue, Lalum, Cecilia and Wolt).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on February 24, 2017, 03:03:30 AM
Also doing a 20 orb draw right now.

4* Sheena - This isn't too bad, I guess? Atleast she's new.

3* Barst - Again. I can't even make any puns because those would be in Dutch and this is an English forum...

3* Selena - Fine. Whatever. But why does she sound like Trump with a slightly larger vocabulary? "I'm Selena, a mercenary who works for Nohr. Very talented. Ask Anyone! They'll say I'm cute too. Bonus!"

3* Selena - Fuck.

3* Setsuna - That's number three...

This draw was sponsored by the letter S - for Shit.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 24, 2017, 06:35:53 AM
Also doing a 20 orb draw right now.

4* Sheena - This isn't too bad, I guess? Atleast she's new.

3* Barst - Again. I can't even make any puns because those would be in Dutch and this is an English forum...

3* Selena - Fine. Whatever. But why does she sound like Trump with a slightly larger vocabulary? "I'm Selena, a mercenary who works for Nohr. Very talented. Ask Anyone! They'll say I'm cute too. Bonus!"

3* Selena - Fuck.

3* Setsuna - That's number three...

This draw was sponsored by the letter S - for Shit.

They just announced a Skill Inheritance feature slated to open up for March, so I guess you'll have plenty of cannibalization fodder.


Meanwhile, (and I probably should've mentioned this days ago), I'm still working on getting a Sword team together for that 7-3 Lunatic quest (since right now, my A-Team Red is Fir who is not geared towards fighting a Blue Armor, let alone the rest of the physical heavy team). Hana's my best bet right now due to Line of Death and Armorslayer (but she still needs more stats to survive long enough to double the asshole).

Also kinda still ambivalent about pulling right now since none of my FE waifus have shown up yet (Lyn and Eirika are close, but I could do better, and from the sound of things, Eirika will be back sooner or later).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on February 24, 2017, 09:24:06 AM
[member=33]Tomara[/member] Ok, you win.  That was horrible.  How do you keep getting so many dupes??
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on February 24, 2017, 09:32:25 AM
I've decided I probably won't bother crossing a lot of the full-weapon team quests off the list, because its not like any of the rewards other than the Orbs are worth getting.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on February 24, 2017, 10:41:34 AM
[member=33]Tomara[/member] Ok, you win.  That was horrible.  How do you keep getting so many dupes??

It's what has been called 'the curse'. I don't consider myself unlucky, but there's always one part of my life where everything goes wrong every time. Concentrated chains of bad luck. Fortunately, it has weakened significantly over the years, going from deaths and traffic accidents to, well, this.

Meanwhile, a friend of mine...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/KaitouKID/feh2_zpsdadeaf3k.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on February 24, 2017, 11:18:37 AM
If it makes you feel better, I've spent I think 120 orbs so far and I only have 2 5-stars, and they both are the same weapon type. They also both suck (Roy and Eirika).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on February 24, 2017, 01:49:54 PM
Not really, because I've used pretty much the same amount and only got one 5*. Nowi. On the one hand, far from a bad unit. On the other, it's Nowi.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 24, 2017, 03:47:03 PM
I've decided I probably won't bother crossing a lot of the full-weapon team quests off the list, because its not like any of the rewards other than the Orbs are worth getting.

I wish the bonus 1.5*Exp effect was still in effect. We're back to anything above level 25 being a glacial pain in the ass to level, which really sucks since I kinda need Hana to reach level 36+ and she's only level 31 right now (alternatively Alfonse past level 28). That or I need to find 4 star Red Sword Infantry with effects like Fortify Def, Spur Def or Rally Def because right now all of my Red Sword Infantry beyond Alfonse only have Skills that affect themselves (like Line of Death, HP+5 or Spd+2), Pass or Breakers.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 24, 2017, 10:41:54 PM
So is it my imagination or are the arena scores lower this week than last? I have a lower score than I got last week, but I only got bumped in rank from 40ks to 50ks today while I think I was booted from 100k around this time last week.

I've decided I probably won't bother crossing a lot of the full-weapon team quests off the list, because its not like any of the rewards other than the Orbs are worth getting.
If you have high level characters for a weapon type, you can basically solo all of the missions minus the lunatic ones (which honestly have the least useful reward?).

I wish the bonus 1.5*Exp effect was still in effect. We're back to anything above level 25 being a glacial pain in the ass to level, which really sucks since I kinda need Hana to reach level 36+ and she's only level 31 right now (alternatively Alfonse past level 28). That or I need to find 4 star Red Sword Infantry with effects like Fortify Def, Spur Def or Rally Def because right now all of my Red Sword Infantry beyond Alfonse only have Skills that affect themselves (like Line of Death, HP+5 or Spd+2), Pass or Breakers.
I feel your pain. I'm working on leveling some units at the moment and those last few levels suck. What makes it worse is that it at least feels like the top levels of the towers almost never give me weapon advantage for whoever I am training. And on the rare occasion that they give me three greens while I am training a red, the enemies just happen to be able to two shot my red despite weapon advantage. >.>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 25, 2017, 12:37:40 AM
So is it my imagination or are the arena scores lower this week than last? I have a lower score than I got last week, but I only got bumped in rank from 40ks to 50ks today while I think I was booted from 100k around this time last week.

I've decided I probably won't bother crossing a lot of the full-weapon team quests off the list, because its not like any of the rewards other than the Orbs are worth getting.
If you have high level characters for a weapon type, you can basically solo all of the missions minus the lunatic ones (which honestly have the least useful reward?).

I wish the bonus 1.5*Exp effect was still in effect. We're back to anything above level 25 being a glacial pain in the ass to level, which really sucks since I kinda need Hana to reach level 36+ and she's only level 31 right now (alternatively Alfonse past level 28). That or I need to find 4 star Red Sword Infantry with effects like Fortify Def, Spur Def or Rally Def because right now all of my Red Sword Infantry beyond Alfonse only have Skills that affect themselves (like Line of Death, HP+5 or Spd+2), Pass or Breakers.
I feel your pain. I'm working on leveling some units at the moment and those last few levels suck. What makes it worse is that it at least feels like the top levels of the towers almost never give me weapon advantage for whoever I am training. And on the rare occasion that they give me three greens while I am training a red, the enemies just happen to be able to two shot my red despite weapon advantage. >.>

Don't forget that they changed the bonus units from the ones used since the game's release. Also, a number of other factors determine how many points you make per battle, like levels and rarity of units used and how many survived the battle. A team of Level 40 5 stars will score more points than a team of level 1 5 stars or a team of level 40 1 stars (why would you even do this?), since higher levels means more SP, and more SP means more Skills and Abilities at play. Also Pay 2 Win Assholes are going to start owning the Arena fulltime with Skill Inheritance coming into play, so don't expect any more Feathers from Defense or Ratings anymore.

As for Tower training, its a good idea to have a second or third team to train on the side just in case you get low on Stamina or don't like the Stratum's current enemy loadout (not that it informs you if you're fighting against a bunch of frail Fliers or a murder orgy of two Hectors, a Sheema, a Beruka, and a generic Staffmount). Another good idea is to keep your A-team around to throw at the highest tier of Tower on the start of a new day since you can get a shitload of Shards or some Crystals to help level your teams.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 25, 2017, 06:38:34 AM
I thought the only real factors for determining your score in the arena was stat point total of your deployed units (so using a level 40 Hector means more points than a level 40 Eliwood), number of units that survive, and whether or not you have a bonus unit. So basically a team of 4 level 40+10 Hectors surviving was the way to get maximum points (although fuck anyone who has this team).

I don't know if skill inheritance will really have that much of an impact on the ratings (compared to the current rankings). I mean the rankings are likely already top loaded with P2W players due to + level characters getting you better scores, so there won't be too much shifting around on that front unless skill inheritance causes a surge in the number of P2W players. I figure as long as I have a bonus character I should probably be able to make it into the 50k-100k bracket.

As for defense, I feel like that is already falling off for me. Last week I had at least five defense victories. This week I have had three. Those feathers are probably just always going to be a crapshoot with P2W players always running over my team (not that I'll notice).

I did start using a second training team, but the level up difference is so ridiculous. My second character got from level 1-20 in less time than it is taking to go from 34-36 for my first char. >.>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 25, 2017, 09:17:48 PM
Welp, I ended up burning a Light's Blessing, but I've finally nailed down that last Weapon Mission. I might have gotten away without needing to burn that Light's Blessing if the AI wasn't set to 'be a dick' mode (the enemy Blue Mage targeted Cain over Fir despite putting itself in Fir's direct line-of-fire, while this left only the Lance Knight, it prevented me from utilizing Cain's Debuff Attack aura to knock down his attack enough to prevent him from one-shotting Hana and letting me tag him 3 times with Hana's Armorslayer).

I'm probably going to grind the arena until time's up and finish off Lunatic Story Mode between now and the next Focus.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on February 26, 2017, 09:23:35 PM
Up to Chapter 7 on Lunatic, but I'm getting bored. Grinding up levels, as Aelous mentioned earlier I think, is so slow.I've got lots of Orbs saved up for the next Focus, so I'll probably pull then, but my interest is definitely waning.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on February 27, 2017, 03:56:44 AM
I have 20 orbs and there's a new Focus. This should be fun!

3* Shanna - Well, that's number three. I thought the point of Pegasus Sisters is that there are three different ones...

3* Eliwood - Three stars? That's kinda lame. But... I didn't have an Eliwood yet, so I won't complain too much.

3* Sophia - I think this is number five or six. It's hard to keep track of them all.

4* Stahl - I like Stahl but I don't think I need four of them...

3* Matthew - Another triplet.

Maybe I should just stop playing...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 27, 2017, 06:27:00 AM
What the fuck did they do to Lachesis? I feel like this design for her is completely out of character. O.o Maybe someday she'll get a version based on her promoted class that looks less...bubbly?

Oh well let's see what my first draw of this new focus is.

3* Cellica...meh
4* Barst (because I haven't drawn 10 already)
3* Olivia
4* Henry
4* Clarine...at least she is higher star than my current version?

Nothing new in this draw, oh well.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 27, 2017, 06:38:20 AM
What the fuck did they do to Lachesis? I feel like this design for her is completely out of character. O.o Maybe someday she'll get a version based on her promoted class that looks less...bubbly?

Oh well let's see what my first draw of this new focus is.

3* Cellica...meh
4* Barst (because I haven't drawn 10 already)
3* Olivia
4* Henry
4* Clarine...at least she is higher star than my current version?

Nothing new in this draw, oh well.

Wait? Cellica's out now? I thought we hadn't gotten to Gaiden yet? (You probably meant Cecilia.)

That said, Lachesis was kinda garbo before her promotion, so I'm not surprised they went with the Staffbot (alternatively, who even used her after promotion beyond Rescue/Warp shenanigans?). Either way, I'm definitely pulling for this Focus, Olwen's waifu tier, and playable Reinhart? WTF (also Dime Thunder is now Dire Thunder, not doing Holy Sword then eh).

*Pulls a Virion, a Raigh, 2 3 star Lon'qus, and a 4 star Kagero*

Welp. At least I finally got a Kagero for anti-infantry shenanigans.

Also, apparently Ephraim and Julia are 5 star pulls only now. At least Eirika and Seliph are 4 stars.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on February 27, 2017, 08:31:35 AM
[member=33]Tomara[/member]: That looks really similar to my third draw that made me decide to stop playing.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on February 27, 2017, 10:52:47 AM
Alright, time for my pull with this new Focus or whatever.
Two Green, Two Red, and 1 Null.  Here we go...

#1 - 4* Prostitu- er I mean, Camilla.  Got a sexy little scene of her arrival.  Bleh.  Won't be using her.

#2 - 3* Olivia.  I got her 1* and 2* versions before, so... yay?

#3 - 4* Lilina.  Neat.  Don't know anything about her, but this is my first Red Tome user. She can do AoE damage, apparently.

#4 - 4* Frederick!  I like this guy, from Awakening.  He comes equipped with a Hammer, so it'll be nice to have a non-mage who can take out those Knights.

#5 - 3* Felicia.  One of my favorite characters from Fates and probably one of my favorite FE characters ever.  She's just so charming and the voice actor does a great job.  But I've gotten her lower * versions before, too.

Not horrible (especially compared to poor [member=33]Tomara[/member] ) but still no 5*.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on February 27, 2017, 11:08:45 AM
[member=33]Tomara[/member]: That looks really similar to my third draw that made me decide to stop playing.

Well, atleast I'm beating the odds.

...

In the worst way possible. But I'm beating them!

And look at it this way! If the curse was at full power, my phone would have exploded or something. This is just a sad repeat of my Hearthstone days.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 27, 2017, 11:40:14 AM
Well I'm a rat bastard apparently, because I just pulled again (I was saving up from the last two Focuses as they weren't worth the orbs) and I pulled Mr. Klein (not Olwen but I'll take him anyways), his 3 star sister Clarine, 4 star sisters Maria and Florina, and yet another 3 star Serra.

Then again, maybe that pull was my reward for suffering through those awful Lunatic Arena Missions (at least now I've gotten some of the good healers).

Also, apparently the next Focus was leaked. Looks to be another anti-Grand Battle team (consisting of Effie, Felicia, Setsuna and Nino). My guess is that between the current Focus and that team, the next Grand Battle will be against Micaiah.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on February 27, 2017, 12:02:13 PM
3* Sophia - I think this is number five or six. It's hard to keep track of them all.

I just checked and actually... it was number seven. Over the last month I got one 1*, one 2*, three 3*s and two 4*s.

Also, apparently the next Focus was leaked. Looks to be another anti-Grand Battle team (consisting of Effie, Felicia, Setsuna and Nino). My guess is that between the current Focus and that team, the next Grand Battle will be against Micaiah.

Blah. All characters I already have regular versions of.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 27, 2017, 12:51:36 PM
Also, apparently the next Focus was leaked. Looks to be another anti-Grand Battle team (consisting of Effie, Felicia, Setsuna and Nino). My guess is that between the current Focus and that team, the next Grand Battle will be against Micaiah.

Blah. All characters I already have regular versions of.

I have all but Effie, but the actual takeaway is that it might be a good idea to dust one or two of these characters off and get them a few more levels in the near future (Grand Battles are massive dick moves without one or two of the right characters to solve the trap).

Anyways, hopefully the new month will bring in a new round of Special Battle Recruits (I'd take a 1 or 2 star Sheema or Effie over having only Gwendolyn as my only Armor; alternatively, well see some commons from the other games like FEs 8 or 9; anything to get us outta Archaena/Ylisse/Hoshido/Nohr purgatory).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on February 27, 2017, 01:29:52 PM
I... actually have a very decent selection of armoured units at my disposal.

4* Draug
4* Effie
4* Sheena
3* Gwendolyn

Those 4*s cover the three colours. On top of that I have some high def characters of other movement types, such as a 4* Oboro.

Okay, so it's nothing super special, but enough to get most jobs (outside of the Arena) done.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on February 27, 2017, 02:12:14 PM
[member=33]Tomara[/member] : you should make an all-Armored team with your best healer in the 4th slot.  That would be sweet for any matches that don't have mages.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on February 27, 2017, 03:26:07 PM
My best healer would be Clarine, meaning I'd have a high-mobility unit running around healing my tanks (and damaging/killing the occasional low-res unit). That does sound fun. And Sheena is also somewhat tanky in the res department, so blue and green mages may not be too much of a problem either.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on February 27, 2017, 04:06:32 PM
Did 2 pulls today. Mostly 3-stars, but I picked up a 5-star Fae (not the greatest, but I'm certainly not going to complain - good support skills, at least) and a 3-star Robin (male). I bumped him up to 4-star immediately since I had the spare materials and will probably level him up.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 27, 2017, 05:06:19 PM
So, I feel like I have to admit that after today I am officially a whale. >.> *sigh* Had much better luck drawing focus characters last focus.

On an unrelated note, I have to wonder why they didn't do Ephraim and Eirika the same week as Eldigan and Lachesis. Just feels more thematically appropriate. XP

Wait? Cellica's out now? I thought we hadn't gotten to Gaiden yet? (You probably meant Cecilia.)
Yes I did. >.>

Also, apparently the next Focus was leaked. Looks to be another anti-Grand Battle team (consisting of Effie, Felicia, Setsuna and Nino). My guess is that between the current Focus and that team, the next Grand Battle will be against Micaiah.
That seems like a long shot bet. Both of the previous grand battles have been against unreleased units in the story (setting a trend) and Micaiah was not a story fight. So if the trend holds the possibilities would be Camus, Michalis, Navarre, Ursula, Xander, or Zephiel (Veronica not being an option because her recruitment stats are not currently in game...plus being way too soon). I've seen Ursula suggested as being next (because of Nino?), but I'm not sure if Effie would really be useful against Ursula. Actually looking at the units, not sure what they would all be useful against.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on February 27, 2017, 05:14:26 PM
So, I feel like I have to admit that after today I am officially a whale. >.>

......how much have you spent?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 27, 2017, 05:26:26 PM
So, I feel like I have to admit that after today I am officially a whale. >.>

......how much have you spent?
I'd rather not say the exact amount? It is significantly less than 1k, but I don't think I can claim to not be a whale at this point. I have not gotten close to breaking my bank account yet though.

I seriously have to wonder how much people who have +10 5*s have spent though since the most I could theoretically make would be +1 5*s.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on February 27, 2017, 07:09:14 PM
Also, apparently the next Focus was leaked. Looks to be another anti-Grand Battle team (consisting of Effie, Felicia, Setsuna and Nino). My guess is that between the current Focus and that team, the next Grand Battle will be against Micaiah.
That seems like a long shot bet. Both of the previous grand battles have been against unreleased units in the story (setting a trend) and Micaiah was not a story fight. So if the trend holds the possibilities would be Camus, Michalis, Navarre, Ursula, Xander, or Zephiel (Veronica not being an option because her recruitment stats are not currently in game...plus being way too soon). I've seen Ursula suggested as being next (because of Nino?), but I'm not sure if Effie would really be useful against Ursula. Actually looking at the units, not sure what they would all be useful against.

I know Setsuna's geared towards anti-Dagger & Bow units with a Bow Breaker and a Dagger breaker weapon and Felicia's Dagger based and high Res (non-existent Def though). If Miccy is the next Grand Battle, it stands to reason that her team will include either Sothe or a Dagger-using Generic Substitute, and Miccy herself will likely be a High Res, Low Def unit with high Magic Attack. Plus with her in every current Focus' character's sibling will be accounted for (because right now Sanaki getting in via Focus before either Miccy, Ike or one of the other major players like Elincia, the Laguz Royals or even the Black Knight makes very little sense), although this particular Focus also includes two goddamn Camuses (Camuii?), so Sanaki's presence doesn't really confirm or deny anything.

Though going at it from your angle, the most likely candidate would be Michalis as he's also a sibling and another Camus archetype.


Edit: Nevermind, they datamined it. Its Ursula.

Also they datamined the Missions for March. Jesus Tapdancing Christ! Four Armors!? I think I know who I'm bumping up to 4 stars in the near future. Also keep your Hanas handy, there's a quest for one of those too.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on February 27, 2017, 07:43:46 PM
I know Setsuna's geared towards anti-Dagger & Bow units with a Bow Breaker and a Dagger breaker weapon and Felicia's Dagger based and high Res (non-existent Def though). If Miccy is the next Grand Battle, it stands to reason that her team will include either Sothe or a Dagger-using Generic Substitute, and Miccy herself will likely be a High Res, Low Def unit with high Magic Attack. Plus with her in every current Focus' character's sibling will be accounted for (because right now Sanaki getting in via Focus before either Miccy, Ike or one of the other major players like Elincia, the Laguz Royals or even the Black Knight makes very little sense), although this particular Focus also includes two goddamn Camuses (Camuii?), so Sanaki's presence doesn't really confirm or deny anything.

Though going at it from your angle, the most likely candidate would be Michalis as he's also a sibling and another Camus archetype.
I think the more likely scenario is that Miccy will be in the next focus that pops along with Sothe (along with Sigurd and Deirdre for canon love pairings?...actually I hope that is not the case because that would destroy my wallet x_x). I don't think they are going to limit any lord to starting at 3 stars at most (I'd say not limit a lord to below 4 stars to start...but Eliwood) and as a time limited character.

Michalis is an interesting choice from the currently unrecruitables though. Setsuna would work as a counter to him because he is a flier. Dragon knights tend to be weak to magic so that covers Nino. Not sure about Felicia or Effie being useful against him though (well other than Effie being useful against everyone). I mean Effie would have WT disadvantage. Wait. Why is he a green unit? Stats I see for him on the general wiki indicate he is a spear user in the games. I guess blue dragon riders aren't in yet? So no Altena anytime soon?

Tangent aside, this group of four just feels like there will always be one person off focus with the other three. I mean if we went with Ursula instead, Nino is a personal connection, Felicia resists Ursula's magic, Setsuna counters the inevitable Jaffar stand-in, and Effie...kills things because she is broken?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 01, 2017, 04:42:32 AM
[member=33]Tomara[/member] : you should make an all-Armored team with your best healer in the 4th slot.  That would be sweet for any matches that don't have mages.

Status update:

All three 4*s armoured units are now L24-28. Clarine was already L33.

Sheena has a great skillset with Killer Axe + Escutcheon (=-30% damage every other hit taken by adjacent foes), Svalinn Shield (no extra damage from hammers and such!) and Fortify Armor (the other two really like this +6 res/def boost).

Effie has more attack than HP and her HP is 40. That's excluding the +4 atk boost from Death Blow 2. Wary Fighter protects her from mages and armour slayers.

Clarine attacks healers and weak mages here and there, ensuring her HP is about 1/2 tot 2/3 full at all times. Under the best circumstances, she can heal 40+ HP.

Draug is useless.

(His attack is only high enough to really damage mages/healers, but his low res and lack of defensive skills make it very difficult for him to get close enough to attack. He does give a def/res boost to the others, but Sheena does it better and I'm not entirely sure these skills stack on Effie (would be really sweet if they did though - +10 res/def combined for an already sturdy wall!). Swap is either great or awful, depending on the situation.)

Maybe I should replace him with a mage. Sophia, maybe? She's red, has very good attack and boosts res.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 01, 2017, 05:52:25 AM
So new month means new quests. And apparently there is a lunatic quest this month for clearing a specific stage on lunatic with a team of 4 armors. So you know that is going to be fun.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 01, 2017, 09:34:39 AM
[member=33]Tomara[/member] - sounds like Sophia is the way to go. :)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 02, 2017, 05:18:33 PM
Ok, time for another live pull!  Two Red, Two Green, and 1 Null.  Wasn't that the combo I had last time, too?

1. 5* Marth.  It finally happened.  My first 5*.  Condolences to [member=33]Tomara[/member] .  This Marth is effective against Dragons and recovers 10 HP every 3 turns.  Nice.

2. 4* Virion.  Gotta love more Virion.  Night Sky gives a 50% boost to damage when it activates.

3. 3* Bartre.  Who?

4. 3* Hinata.  Cool to land another Birthright character, but I'll never use him.

5. 3* Nino.  Already have a 4* version.


Well, I finally have a 5* character.  I guess I can quit playing now. :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 02, 2017, 06:22:26 PM
Ok, time for another live pull!  Two Red, Two Green, and 1 Null.  Wasn't that the combo I had last time, too?

1. 5* Marth.  It finally happened.  My first 5*.  Condolences to [member=33]Tomara[/member] .  This Marth is effective against Dragons and recovers 10 HP every 3 turns.  Nice.

2. 4* Virion.  Gotta love more Virion.  Night Sky gives a 50% boost to damage when it activates.

3. 3* Bartre.  Who?

4. 3* Hinata.  Cool to land another Birthright character, but I'll never use him.

5. 3* Nino.  Already have a 4* version.


Well, I finally have a 5* character.  I guess I can quit playing now. :P
Wait getting a 5* is the win condition? Fuck I've been playing this wrong. XP Congrats on the Marth though, he's a good unit from what I have read.

As for Bartre, he's a character from FE6 who reappears as a younger version of himself in FE7. The Heroes version is based on the FE6 version as he wasn't rocking the ugly moustache in FE7. Incidentally, he happens one of the characters that I have yet to get, which is weird since he is a 3*/4* and not a 5*. Also incidentally, I've been reading analysis on him and it seems like if you are willing to put in the effort to get him to 5*, he is actually one of the best units in the game atm. Thanks to Fury his stats get ridiculous and he tends to bump you into the Hector/Effie meta in the arena...and he can counter both of them pretty well.

Don't know if I would actually put in the effort to raise him myself if I were to actually get him....because of that stupid moustache.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 02, 2017, 11:03:26 PM
Ok, time for another live pull!  Two Red, Two Green, and 1 Null.  Wasn't that the combo I had last time, too?

1. 5* Marth.  It finally happened.  My first 5*.  Condolences to [member=33]Tomara[/member] .  This Marth is effective against Dragons and recovers 10 HP every 3 turns.  Nice.

2. 4* Virion.  Gotta love more Virion.  Night Sky gives a 50% boost to damage when it activates.

3. 3* Bartre.  Who?

4. 3* Hinata.  Cool to land another Birthright character, but I'll never use him.

5. 3* Nino.  Already have a 4* version.


Well, I finally have a 5* character.  I guess I can quit playing now. :P
Wait getting a 5* is the win condition? Fuck I've been playing this wrong. XP Congrats on the Marth though, he's a good unit from what I have read.

As for Bartre, he's a character from FE6 who reappears as a younger version of himself in FE7. The Heroes version is based on the FE6 version as he wasn't rocking the ugly moustache in FE7. Incidentally, he happens one of the characters that I have yet to get, which is weird since he is a 3*/4* and not a 5*. Also incidentally, I've been reading analysis on him and it seems like if you are willing to put in the effort to get him to 5*, he is actually one of the best units in the game atm. Thanks to Fury his stats get ridiculous and he tends to bump you into the Hector/Effie meta in the arena...and he can counter both of them pretty well.

Don't know if I would actually put in the effort to raise him myself if I were to actually get him....because of that stupid moustache.

In FE7, he's the guy you only used in Hector/Hector Hard Modes if you wanted to recruit everyone available per playthrough because his Speed growth sucked, the rest of his stats didn't make that up, he's up against better/far superior Axe users than himself (i.e. Hawkeye, Dorcas, Dart and Hector), and the reward for using him is one of the worst characters in the series (as in Mystery's Midia's levels of bad).

In FE6, he's the guy you never saw because Echidna's on the other route.

In either case, Fir is his daughter, and unlike her parents, she's actually really good in her game (though she's competing directly with Rutger who's either a straight up better Myrmidon or distiled sick nasty in a bottle depending on the difficulty (his bases are ridiculously good in Hard Mode and makes the first half of the game manageable and retires to prime shitkicker status during the latter half when Melady and her 'makes promoted units blush' base stats shows up to steamroll the remainder of the game), she still has her uses as shitkicker #2~whatever once you get her up to speed). Unfortunately, in Heroes she's one of 30 Sword using Infantry with her only major claim to fame being her decent Res.


Also, congrats on your Five star story Arvis. Marth's pretty cool in terms of usability (though Lucina's better in the meta and Chrom's either equal or also better depending on whether you want Pivot or Aether + Spur Def).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 03, 2017, 02:59:15 AM
Five star story

I applaud your appreciation of old-school Japanese sci-fi series.

I had 23 orbs just a moment ago, but there were not white orbs in the selections, which means no chance of getting a Takumi (and in case it wasn't clear yet: I really, really want a Takumi). I only grabbed the red one and got a 4* Fir. Didn't have one yet, so I'm not too disappointed.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 03, 2017, 02:51:01 PM
Thanks, all.  Now that I have Marth, the first thing I am doing is... leveling up other characters besides him.  *shrugs*
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 03, 2017, 05:46:19 PM
Five star story

I applaud your appreciation of old-school Japanese sci-fi series.

I had 23 orbs just a moment ago, but there were not white orbs in the selections, which means no chance of getting a Takumi (and in case it wasn't clear yet: I really, really want a Takumi). I only grabbed the red one and got a 4* Fir. Didn't have one yet, so I'm not too disappointed.

Ehh. Its just L-Gaim mk 2.


Anyways, I had 22 orbs not too long ago....I wish I still had them (or at least something maybe worth their weight in Feathers). );

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Seriously, all repeats, no Armors, only one 4 star (and my other Raven is 5 stars) and only enough Orbs left to pull one more time this Focus.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 04, 2017, 07:31:19 AM
So which of the royals is everyone planning on supporting in the upcoming tournament? I'm thinking I'll support Lucina as she is probably my favorite of the bracket (the fact that she probably has the best odds at winning doesn't hurt either). A shame I don't have her, but hey maybe she'll become a focus again if she wins the tournament?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on March 04, 2017, 08:06:18 AM
I imagine either Chrom or Lucina have the best shot. Betting a good chunk of the people playing don't even really know who Eirika/Ephraim are.

Got myself my first non-Red 5-star in Reinhardt. Having never played any of the Jugdral games for more than 2 or 3 chapters, I have little knowledge of the character. Having a blue tome user is great though- a mounted one at that.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on March 04, 2017, 03:16:18 PM
So which of the royals is everyone planning on supporting in the upcoming tournament? I'm thinking I'll support Lucina as she is probably my favorite of the bracket (the fact that she probably has the best odds at winning doesn't hurt either). A shame I don't have her, but hey maybe she'll become a focus again if she wins the tournament?

Too bad it isn't possible to gift you mine since I don't play anymore.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 06, 2017, 03:11:20 AM
I'm just going to stick to characters I like. So, uh, not the wonder twins... and that's basically it. This is not a pool I have strong feelings about.

Anyway, new pull! This is going to be great!
 
3* Sully - She's new, so whatever.

3* Donnel - Oh, *bleep* off...

4* Female Corrin - Would've been really nice if I didn't already have one.

4* Lon'qu - I like Lon'qu, but did I really need another one?

The last stone is a white one. This could be it! My luck should turn around sometime, right? Now would be perfect!

Here we go!

...

This is exciting!

...

3* Serra - Because I really needed another one of those...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 06, 2017, 05:09:45 AM
Pulled today, all duplicate 3-stars, plus a 4-star Marth. Not useful since I have a 5-star Lucina. Oh well.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 07, 2017, 04:21:35 AM
I didn't know who to support and didn't just want to go with the Smash Hall of Fame, so I rolled a dice. Rolled a five, that's Leo according to the scribbles on my notepad. A few hours in and Leo is losing badly.

Which kind of surprises me, actually. He's from a recent game and he seems like the type to attract a lot of fangirls.

Oh well. Against the odds, we fight!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 07, 2017, 12:40:57 PM
I didn't know who to support and didn't just want to go with the Smash Hall of Fame, so I rolled a dice. Rolled a five, that's Leo according to the scribbles on my notepad. A few hours in and Leo is losing badly.

Which kind of surprises me, actually. He's from a recent game and he seems like the type to attract a lot of fangirls.

Oh well. Against the odds, we fight!

Should've sided with Lucina. The Smash Bros. is strong with that one (she's currently trouncing Sharena 2:1).


That said, the recent updates have finally opened up enough Orbs for me to pull again. Immediately I'm looking at one Green Orb and 4 Red Orbs. Fuck. Well, it can't be as bad as that last pull so I go all in. I pulled Sanaki along with a 4 star Merric and Hinata and two 3 star Olivias. Now I have both a 5 star magic user and a 5 star Red which now gives me solid coverage in Color, Damage Types and Range. Additionally, Merric might be worth bumping up to 5 stars if I don't go with Cordelia or Eliwood. As for the Olivias, here's hoping that April's bullshit Mission requires fielding four Singers/Dancers. As for the next pull, that one's going towards the one with Lucina/Eirika/Elise.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 07, 2017, 06:35:22 PM
So some tips regarding the current event.

1. You can get an easy win if you have high level friends and field a level 1. Basically I've been slaughtering level 1s using a level 38 Minerva that keeps popping up when I use a level 1 character.

2. Using 1 you can easily get flags by fielding different colored level units (although green seems unnecessary since I at least keep getting low level Annas from people in my third slot).

I have backed Lucina. It is starting to look like she might get triple the votes....and her opponent has enough votes to win in any other competition from the early results I was seeing. Lucina is going to slaughter this thing unless the anti-Lucina gets really strong.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 07, 2017, 09:07:57 PM
So some tips regarding the current event.

1. You can get an easy win if you have high level friends and field a level 1. Basically I've been slaughtering level 1s using a level 38 Minerva that keeps popping up when I use a level 1 character.

2. Using 1 you can easily get flags by fielding different colored level units (although green seems unnecessary since I at least keep getting low level Annas from people in my third slot).

I have backed Lucina. It is starting to look like she might get triple the votes....and her opponent has enough votes to win in any other competition from the early results I was seeing. Lucina is going to slaughter this thing unless the anti-Lucina gets really strong.

One other thing that's really nice about the Voting Gauntlet is the fact that those bullshit Focus Character Missions are now doable (and do yourself and everyone else a favor and use current Focus Character Mission characters).

No help in regards to the 4 Armors bullshit. -_-;
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on March 08, 2017, 11:13:38 AM
I picked Ephraim myself (sorry Tomara), but if Lucina's doing as well as you guys say, doesn't sound like he'll be able to survive against her (assuming he even survives against Chrom).

Also didn't pull much on my latest 20 orbs. Got Shanna, Sakura and Chrom 4-stars, but not too interested in using any of them.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 08, 2017, 11:55:40 AM
It's fine... Atleast it's easy to get a decent rank when a character is so ...underappreciated? Besides, support Leo is pretty funny, since players who actually have a Leo seem to be very rare. On the other hand, there are so many Takumis! It's not that rare to get two on my team or see four or more in one charge. Since Leokumi seems to be popular pairing, I'm guessing the fangirls do have his back. It's just that there aren't enough of them to make a difference.

So, uh...

I guess I'll go down with this ship.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 08, 2017, 03:56:57 PM
Time for another Live Pull.  3 Blue, 1 Red, 1 Null.  Here we go...

1. 5* Kagero.  This... this is the best thing.  My waifu from Birthright, in 5* form.  Never mind her slutty new artwork, she's still awesome.  Great in battle, great in personality, I love me some Kagero so much.

2. 4* Gwendolyn.  Now what do I do with the 3* Gwen that I already leveled up to 10??

3. 3* Frickin' Donnel.

4. 3* Stahl.  Cool guy, Stahl.

5. 5* Ephraim.  What the heck?  I almost have enough for an All 5* Team.  Sorry [member=33]Tomara[/member] .  Persevere!  Your time will come!!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 08, 2017, 05:16:26 PM
Well, my 5* Nowi, a unit I hate very very much, has a great time walking all over those 3x Ephraim parties I keep running into. Since Leo's army is basically all the Takumis, I keep ending up with a party that has three units that can hurt things at every range. I'm useful!

Well, we're still losing, but atleast we passed the 1,000,000,000 mark.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 08, 2017, 07:27:54 PM
Time for another Live Pull.  3 Blue, 1 Red, 1 Null.  Here we go...

1. 5* Kagero.  This... this is the best thing.  My waifu from Birthright, in 5* form.  Never mind her slutty new artwork, she's still awesome.  Great in battle, great in personality, I love me some Kagero so much.

2. 4* Gwendolyn.  Now what do I do with the 3* Gwen that I already leveled up to 10??

3. 3* Frickin' Donnel.

4. 3* Stahl.  Cool guy, Stahl.

5. 5* Ephraim.  What the heck?  I almost have enough for an All 5* Team.  Sorry [member=33]Tomara[/member] .  Persevere!  Your time will come!!

Now watch as randoms almost always spawn mounts, fliers or armors just to spite her.

Also, keep that Gwendy around and hope that there's a Zephiel Grand Battle before March is out for that fucking 4 Armors Mission (you're also gonna want to level them).


Well, my 5* Nowi, a unit I hate very very much, has a great time walking all over those 3x Ephraim parties I keep running into. Since Leo's army is basically all the Takumis, I keep ending up with a party that has three units that can hurt things at every range. I'm useful!

Well, we're still losing, but atleast we passed the 1,000,000,000 mark.

Everyone's done that by now though (although it was Alfonse who did it last).

My suggestion is to save your Flags for the Lucina train as everybody's burning all of their current batches on this first round (I went from rank 50000 to unranked in short order).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 09, 2017, 03:36:03 AM
I've got plenty of flags left, so I might even rank in that final match...

In other news, time for some more disappointment! :D (Princes focus, by the way)

3* Raigh - Look at me, I can see the future!

4* Eirika - Eirika, I don't mind having you, but you're doing this whole focus thing wrong! Also, 4 stars? Bad Eirika! D:

3* Sophia - Hi, Sophia #9, don't you agree this future is still rather disappointing?

3* Arthur - We'll call this one thematically appropriate.

3* Saizo - One angry ninja, one disappointed player, oh the fun we're having...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 09, 2017, 03:52:00 PM
Got a 5* Klein in my draw today, alongside a bunch of 3-stars. I don't have any particularly good neutral units yet, so this was a useful draw for me! ...Now to grind...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 09, 2017, 06:20:27 PM
Oh yeah for anyone supporting Lucina, my user ID is 0509658992. Currently using my Sanaki as my representative to help people with the Sibling Bonds event.

Got a 5* Klein in my draw today, alongside a bunch of 3-stars. I don't have any particularly good neutral units yet, so this was a useful draw for me! ...Now to grind...
I hear that Klein is supposed to be pretty good. Primary thing making Takumi better is Close Counter. Don't have one myself though so I don't have any strong opinions on him beyond what I've heard.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 09, 2017, 06:27:51 PM
Oh good! His abilities looked decent from what I saw. I have 4 5* units now, so if I ever manage to grind my non-Lucina ones up to 40, I could field a team. :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 09, 2017, 06:32:25 PM
Oh yeah for anyone supporting Lucina, my user ID is 0509658992. Currently using my Sanaki as my representative to help people with the Sibling Bonds event.

Got a 5* Klein in my draw today, alongside a bunch of 3-stars. I don't have any particularly good neutral units yet, so this was a useful draw for me! ...Now to grind...
I hear that Klein is supposed to be pretty good. Primary thing making Takumi better is Close Counter. Don't have one myself though so I don't have any strong opinions on him beyond what I've heard.

Mr. Clean is okay, but numerically speaking, a 5 star Gordin does one turn nuking better (and no, I don't have one of those, only a 3 star Gordin, my only 5 star common right now is Raven).

As for Focus characters I already have the Clean Snack (I'd complain about not pulling Olwen or Lachesis but Sanaki gives me a Red 5 star and is a Tome User to boot, both of which I really wanted), but I'd appreciate one of the other four for those bullshit Focus Missions.

Also, hopefully you've gotten Female Robin, Effie, Setsuna, Nino or Felicia trained up by now as Ursula the next mysterious Grand Battle opponent is about show up (and she's gonna have a 4 star version available; yay a 4 star Blue Tome User (now if only she didn't suck; or the next Grand Battle)).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 09, 2017, 07:05:08 PM
Mr. Clean is okay, but numerically speaking, a 5 star Gordin does one turn nuking better (and no, I don't have one of those, only a 3 star Gordin, my only 5 star common right now is Raven).

As for Focus characters I already have the Clean Snack (I'd complain about not pulling Olwen or Lachesis but Sanaki gives me a Red 5 star and is a Tome User to boot, both of which I really wanted), but I'd appreciate one of the other four for those bullshit Focus Missions.

Also, hopefully you've gotten Female Robin, Effie, Setsuna, Nino or Felicia trained up by now as Ursula the next mysterious Grand Battle opponent is about show up (and she's gonna have a 4 star version available; yay a 4 star Blue Tome User (now if only she didn't suck; or the next Grand Battle)).
I have only bothered training a single archer, so I don't really know how any of them compare to each other. I just know that Klein was considered the best of this batch of new heroes at first. Of course I think the initial reaction might have been off as Eldigan is insane due to Fury (and he is the first Fury user to naturally come as a 5*). I would not be surprised if Fury becomes the new meta once skill inheritance is a thing.

And you should not complain about not pulling Lachesis. I love the character in FE4...but she is the worst healer in the game. And healers are pretty much crap to begin with. She possibly could be salvaged to usable if they got rid of the 50% damage reduction on healer attacks, but for now she is sadly a waste of a 5*. :(

I do not have any of those trained up for the Ursuala battle. I do however have a Julia nuke ready to launch at Ursula. So it will be entertaining to see how this plays out. :p
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 09, 2017, 07:23:42 PM
From Aeolus, "okay" is a pretty encouraging remark! :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 09, 2017, 10:29:33 PM
Mr. Clean is okay, but numerically speaking, a 5 star Gordin does one turn nuking better (and no, I don't have one of those, only a 3 star Gordin, my only 5 star common right now is Raven).
Wait I just took a look at their stats. How the heck is Gordin better at one turn nuking? Gordin has slightly higher attack due to his attack +3 (41 vs 38), but that 3 point advantage is the only benefit I see for him. Klein has 8 points higher speed (20 vs 28) and death blow. So when attacking on the player turn, Klein will do 6 points more damage (3 higher attack due to death blow for two attacks from brave weapon) and may double that damage due to his higher speed (although I guess not likely since that would require a -spd Hector or something equally slow). That doesn't even count Klein's Glacies which should trigger frequently due to the brave weapon. Klein seems to outclass Gordin completely in offense except maybe defense phase offense (since Gordin has Vantage).

Am I missing something or are the stats I am looking at wrong? O.o
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 09, 2017, 10:39:14 PM
Oh, also, I finally have enough feathers to upgrade a 4* to a 5*. Any suggestions from my FE friends here on who would be most worthwhile (if any) out of the following lot?

Olivia
Eliwood
Abel
Robin (M)
Corrin (F)

My current team: Lucina, Shareena, Merric, Lissa
My (pending) future team (all 5*s): Lucina, Effie, Fae, Klein
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 09, 2017, 10:55:41 PM
Can you figure out what your 4*s bane/boons are? That can drastically change whether a unit is worth promoting. Without knowing bane/boon, my first instinct is Robin (M). Effie might be generally considered a better unit, but Robin is pretty good and makes for a good colorless unit counter if you end up needing one some day.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 09, 2017, 11:15:59 PM
Alternatively you might just want to promote Sharena since she's actually pretty good at 5 stars (better than the other two at least) and you'll know you'll never accidentally pull another 5 star one. Plus her stats are completely static. No boons or banes.


Mr. Clean is okay, but numerically speaking, a 5 star Gordin does one turn nuking better (and no, I don't have one of those, only a 3 star Gordin, my only 5 star common right now is Raven).
Wait I just took a look at their stats. How the heck is Gordin better at one turn nuking? Gordin has slightly higher attack due to his attack +3 (41 vs 38), but that 3 point advantage is the only benefit I see for him. Klein has 8 points higher speed (20 vs 28) and death blow. So when attacking on the player turn, Klein will do 6 points more damage (3 higher attack due to death blow for two attacks from brave weapon) and may double that damage due to his higher speed (although I guess not likely since that would require a -spd Hector or something equally slow). That doesn't even count Klein's Glacies which should trigger frequently due to the brave weapon. Klein seems to outclass Gordin completely in offense except maybe defense phase offense (since Gordin has Vantage).

Am I missing something or are the stats I am looking at wrong? O.o

No, I was the one looking at it wrong.I stopped at the part where Gordin's Arena score weighed better the Klein's.

Klein's big advantage is Quick Riposte due to triggering without needing to survive a hit. Klein's Spd isn't that impressive due to still being below the magic threshold number of 33 Spd that Arena meta tends to run (you'd need at least 29 to survive). And Klein's softer Def makes it harder to counter other Archers and Daggers on a defensive strategy.

Basically, Klein is better than Gordin, but he's in need of some team synergy to shine. Somebody who can buff his Atk or Spd should help.


Anyways, I pulled again, I lost again. Got a 4 star Ogma and Donnel (whom I already had a 3 star of) and more chafe (another 3 star Saizo, Serra and Est).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 09, 2017, 11:18:20 PM
Thanks guys. Not a bad idea on Sharena, actually, though my first thought was the same as yours, Ranadiel. I will continue to ponder!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 10, 2017, 06:54:43 AM
Ursula is up. Only two levels. One for 3* and one for 4*. Managed to beat it on my second try. Sadly don't have any real advice as my strategy for my second run basically amounted to "We have a Hector." >.> Well okay I guess I can give some advice. The two dagger users use poison daggers, so non-infantry units are useful for taking hits. Since Ursula uses an anti-cavalry tome, best bet for tanking the dagger users are either someone with daggerbreaker, an armor, or a flyer.

Thanks guys. Not a bad idea on Sharena, actually, though my first thought was the same as yours, Ranadiel. I will continue to ponder!
Well just remember to check boon/bane on a character (other than Shareena or GHB characters) before upgrading just to make sure that you aren't wasting feathers on a unit hobbled by its stats.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 10, 2017, 03:42:09 PM
Will do!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 10, 2017, 06:15:48 PM
The other Grand Battle characters (i.e. Narcian, Robin(F) and Ursula) also have static stats if you want to choose them (and Robin(F) could even be considered good; no idea on Narcian and Ursula has really crappy Atk).


Voting Gauntlet Edit: So after a 2:1 blowout between Lucina v. Eirika, most everyone's seen the writing on the wall and has hopped aboard the Lucina Smash Waifu +500 Feathers Train which is steamrolling Ephraim 4:1. At this point the only reasons to vote is to hopefully get a high ranking for a few Feathers more and to hopefully knock out those remaining Focus Missions. I know I've since cleared Reinhart (I used to see a couple of Lachesis, but not anymore, and I still haven't had any luck with the others I still need). And that didn't happen, but the Lucina Smash Train paid out well enough (put me over the 20k Feather mark finally).


3/14 Focus Double Edit: Welp. Hope you like FE7 characters, because we're getting Karel, Jaffar, Lucius, Priscilla, Rebecca and Ninian for the next Focus. I think I'm gonna hold my Orbs unless Ninian or Jaffar are fantastic, because I have enough Grey units already (although with this there'll finally be some non-Fates Grey units up for grabs). Fake Edit: Looking at it again, Lucius is probably gonna be yet another Staffbot. Xp Ninian looks like she'll be a Dancing Manakete, which will be interesting to say the least, but not worth pulling for on her own.

Additionally (and more importantly), they're starting up Daily Arena Missions (which will likely end up being our new source of Orbs and Feathers) and replacing the current Daily Login Reward bonus with a new set, the latter starting today with 100 Feathers.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 13, 2017, 05:19:46 PM
Yeah looking at the next focus we are going to get 4 colorless, 1 red, and 1 green or blue (depending on whether they align ice as wind or say fuck it and give her blue). While I would like a Jaffar, fuck no to drawing from 4 colorless focus units. I might go for drawing from 4 focus units if it was another color, but I have enough worthless colorless units. I don't need more. I'll probably draw for Ninian for the novelty of a dancing dragon. Might draw on Karel depending on how good he is (not that I need anymore red).

In view of the fact that they are apparently making Ninian into a combat unit, I wonder what they are going to do with the Heron tribe from the Tellius games and other non-combat dancers who lack obvious combat options.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 13, 2017, 05:38:34 PM
No more 2 Orbs a day? Well, I suspect a lot of people's interest will start to fizzle out when they can't draw 1-2 times a week any more.

Also, I want Azura. :(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 14, 2017, 04:05:00 AM
Who wants to laugh at my next pull? :D

3* Fir - Fire Emblem Heroes, I know you hate me, but come on...

4* Cain - Okay, could be worse, but it could also be a LOT better, you know?

3* Frederick - Not giving me any 5*s is not polite!

3* Azama - Didn't have one yet and I think he might be one of the better healers? I dunno...

3* Setsuna - Of course.

And tot hink that the odds of not getting a 3* should be over 40%...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 14, 2017, 04:07:52 AM
First off, I failed the Lunatic Grand Battle (namely because my Setsuna was only 4 star and those Dagger users were designed to be felled by a Level 40 5 star Setsuna or something equivalent therein; which in of itself wouldn't have been so bad if not for the fact that Setsuna is straight up hot garbage, and/or I didn't need to spend as many resources as I did to come to this conclusion). At least I have 'a' Ursula and my 5 star Sanaki is now at max level.

Second, Ninian is indeed a Manakete Dancer and sports some nice Manakete support abilities while Karel is making non-Legendary swords look bad with his Wo Dao (too bad, every time I've pulled for a Focus, I end up with the characters I'm least interested in).

Third, apparently somebody heard that tying March's quests to the game's rarest unit type was something of a dick move so hopefully you don't mind a nearly free Draug.

Fourth, and on that note, apparently somebody's been reading some other posts and noted that tying Missions to Focus pulls was also a colossal dick move and have dialed it back to weapon types instead (thank god).

And finally, someone pointed out to me that the owl's name is Feh. I mention this because its not some random sound, but because its short for Fire Emblem Heroes. >.<;
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 14, 2017, 06:27:15 AM
Alright time for the regular live draw for the new banner. I swear, if this has 4 colorless though I am not full pulling and doing a second one instead though. >.>

And I get 3 colorless...fuck it why not.

4* Sakura- Useless
3* Saizo- Useless
3* Matthew Less than useless
5* Ninian-....yeah I kind of expected that when I saw that there was a blue. Now for the red...
4* Eliwood- Was hoping for Karel, but w/e. Should check his Bane/Boon since the one I promoted had a less than great one and I kind of regret that now.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 14, 2017, 08:25:50 AM
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5* Ninian-....yeah I kind of expected that when I saw that there was a blue. Now for the red...

That's how it works for you? You just kind of expect it and it happens? Just 'Let's positive thinking!' and then it's 5* get?

I may have been playing this game wrong...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 14, 2017, 11:44:49 AM
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5* Ninian-....yeah I kind of expected that when I saw that there was a blue. Now for the red...

That's how it works for you? You just kind of expect it and it happens? Just 'Let's positive thinking!' and then it's 5* get?

I may have been playing this game wrong...

*consolation hug*
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 14, 2017, 12:41:46 PM
Alright time for the regular live draw for the new banner. I swear, if this has 4 colorless though I am not full pulling and doing a second one instead though. >.>

And I get 3 colorless...fuck it why not.

4* Sakura- Useless
3* Saizo- Useless
3* Matthew Less than useless
5* Ninian-....yeah I kind of expected that when I saw that there was a blue. Now for the red...
4* Eliwood- Was hoping for Karel, but w/e. Should check his Bane/Boon since the one I promoted had a less than great one and I kind of regret that now.

Yeah, that's actually a fairly good pull all things considered. If for no other reason than getting the best unit out of the Focus right out of the gate.

And Sakura isn't bad either considering that she's one of the game's better healers, even at 4 stars.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 14, 2017, 12:59:18 PM
I wish I had a 4* Sakura... I'm not a fan of the timid healer archetype, but I certainly prefer Miss Social Anxiety Disorder over Clarine.

Not to mention that my L40 team basically consists of characters I dislike + Sophia. And I can't say I really like Sophia that much either. She's just sort of there, I guess. Okay, and in Heroes she's there a lot, because I keep pulling new Sophias.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 14, 2017, 04:39:33 PM
Game dropped 20 Orbs in my lap for no reason, so here's another live pull, 2 Green, 1 Blue Red and Null.

1. 4* Hawkeye - Beefcake.  He finds me mysterious, with his sultry voice.  Nice to see something for the ladies (and such) here.

2. 3* Subaki - Yay Fates!

3. 4* Virion - Again???  Should I grind him into my current Virion or dismiss him for Feathers?  I don't even know how to deal with this game.

4. 3* Sophia - *shrugs*

5. 4* Raven - No idea who this is but his character art is pretty freakin' cool.  However, it clearly shows him with a sword and he uses an axe.  Weird.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 14, 2017, 06:58:19 PM
So saw the next GHB banner earlier today. It has Eliwood, Gordin, Selena, and Minerva. Unfortunately for me, Minerva is on my wishlist, so I'm going to be drawing on that banner.

That's how it works for you? You just kind of expect it and it happens? Just 'Let's positive thinking!' and then it's 5* get?

I may have been playing this game wrong...
I don't know? Maybe? I'm really not sure if I am bending reality, really lucky, or my desires are precognitive knowledge that I am misinterpreting. But I do tend to get one unit I want fairly early on in my drawings for a banner. Then maybe a second....and then my luck runs out for the day and I have to draw a lot to get the next unit (really need to learn to take a break after the second in the hopes of recharging my luck).

Yeah, that's actually a fairly good pull all things considered. If for no other reason than getting the best unit out of the Focus right out of the gate.

And Sakura isn't bad either considering that she's one of the game's better healers, even at 4 stars.
Probably my best "live" pull that I've done. Certainly not my worst pull of the day. I don't know if Ninian is the best unit of the Focus. I feel like Karel is going to be a complete monster especially once you slap Fury on him Then again slap Fury on almost anyone and they become a monster, Karel just benefits from it more than most. Also I got a pretty crappy Bane/Boon on my Ninian. I think it was -Spd/+Def? Oh well, I don't a full dragon team to throw her on yet anyways. Someday I'll finish leveling her up and get her some more dragon friends.

As for Sakura...if I need a healer I have better options? Then again she does seem better than Lachesis who I am currently leveling (why is she so bad?). Either way, not really looking to train up a fleet of useless healers. Also I already had a 4* Sakura. :p

Not to mention that my L40 team basically consists of characters I dislike + Sophia. And I can't say I really like Sophia that much either. She's just sort of there, I guess. Okay, and in Heroes she's there a lot, because I keep pulling new Sophias.
Merge the Sophias together! Create a super Sophia who can learn all of the skills in the universe with her giant SP number once skill inheritance is a thing!

Game dropped 20 Orbs in my lap for no reason, so here's another live pull, 2 Green, 1 Blue Red and Null.

1. 4* Hawkeye - Beefcake.  He finds me mysterious, with his sultry voice.  Nice to see something for the ladies (and such) here.

2. 3* Subaki - Yay Fates!

3. 4* Virion - Again???  Should I grind him into my current Virion or dismiss him for Feathers?  I don't even know how to deal with this game.

4. 3* Sophia - *shrugs*

5. 4* Raven - No idea who this is but his character art is pretty freakin' cool.  However, it clearly shows him with a sword and he uses an axe.  Weird.
For Virion, if you use the one you have and he is short on SP go ahead and merge him. If you don't use your other Virion then either send him away for feathers or save him if you would be interested in having him teach another unit Seal Speed.

As for Raven, he is a character from FE7. I honestly don't remember a lot about him other than he is Priscilla's brother (she is the red head in the current banner). There may have been implied incest between them? It is FE though, so I'm just going to assume there was some implied incest in their relationship. As for his weapon, his starting class could only use swords, but he gained axes on promotions. Not really clear why they decided to give him axes instead of swords. He is not the only unit with questionable weapon choices *glares at Lachesis*
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 14, 2017, 08:13:22 PM
They obviously went with unpromoted Lachesis since she sucked/was the resident trainee of FE4's Gen 1.

Still not as baffling as making Lucius a Staff bot since he was a Light Mage to start with and only promoted to Staffs later.

And I'd hold off on merging units for now since it seems like you'll need to cannibalize them to pass their Skills (when Skill Inheritance drops). Having spares on hand might just be a good idea, especially if one of their skills fills a neglected slot.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 14, 2017, 08:30:38 PM
They obviously went with unpromoted Lachesis since she sucked/was the resident trainee of FE4's Gen 1.

Still not as baffling as making Lucius a Staff bot since he was a Light Mage to start with and only promoted to Staffs later.

And I'd hold off on merging units for now since it seems like you'll need to cannibalize them to pass their Skills (when Skill Inheritance drops). Having spares on hand might just be a good idea, especially if one of their skills fills a neglected slot.
But Lachesis could use swords in her base class, and she has a signature weapon! And they can do interesting stuff with the Earth Sword! I will be sad if they make Nanna another staffbot and do not give her the Earth Sword. >.>

As for Lucius...they really just do not seem to know what to do with Light Magic users. If we retcon Shine to be light magic (since light magic didn't exist as a magic type till FE4), then we have three light magic users. One who beats the currently in game dark mages, one who is beaten by dark mages, and one who is a staff bot. Maybe someday they'll figure out what the hell they are doing there. And they'll add in low level light magic spells.

I'm personally holding onto all my duplicates until we know how skill inheritance works. I got a lot after today though.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 14, 2017, 08:59:37 PM
They obviously went with unpromoted Lachesis since she sucked/was the resident trainee of FE4's Gen 1.

Still not as baffling as making Lucius a Staff bot since he was a Light Mage to start with and only promoted to Staffs later.

And I'd hold off on merging units for now since it seems like you'll need to cannibalize them to pass their Skills (when Skill Inheritance drops). Having spares on hand might just be a good idea, especially if one of their skills fills a neglected slot.
But Lachesis could use swords in her base class, and she has a signature weapon! And they can do interesting stuff with the Earth Sword! I will be sad if they make Nanna another staffbot and do not give her the Earth Sword. >.>

The problem with making Lachesis into a Red Infantry is that there's already a shitload of Red Infantry, to the point of outnumbering every other type of unit by at least 2:1. Hell, Red Units in general outnumber total available Green Units by 1.5*. And the Earth Sword's effect wouldn't be that hot since Falchions already have a built-in Renewal effect on top of Dragon Effectiveness.

What its looking like is that the Main Focuses tend to have units who are really good and units who aren't that good but you're still getting them at 5 stars. The current one for instance has good units like Karel, Ninian and Jaffar and a bunch of chaff with units like Priscilla, Rebecca and Lucius. Before that, you had good units like Reinhardt, Klein, Eldigan and Sanaki and some mediocre units like Olwen and Lachesis. Before that, you had Ephraim and Julia for good units and Eirika and Seliph for not as good.

Of course, another reason to hold onto duplicates is when crap like one of this month's Missions require fielding 4 fucking Armors on a Lunatic Map and win without casualties (or at least burning a Light's Blessing at the last minute to cheese the requirement), when as of right now there's a grand total of 5 Armored unit types, one of whom is rare, while two others are uncommon. Its kinda bullshit and I feel bad for anyone who might have had enough through duplicates but Feathered or Merged them instead (at least the freebie Draug now gives those out there who couldn't even field one Armor a chance to get past the Normal tier March Missions and the 8 Orbs up for grabs behind that gate).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 14, 2017, 09:28:48 PM
The problem with making Lachesis into a Red Infantry is that there's already a shitload of Red Infantry, to the point of outnumbering every other type of unit by at least 2:1. Hell, Red Units in general outnumber total available Green Units by 1.5*. And the Earth Sword's effect wouldn't be that hot since Falchions already have a built-in Renewal effect on top of Dragon Effectiveness.

What its looking like is that the Main Focuses tend to have units who are really good and units who aren't that good but you're still getting them at 5 stars. The current one for instance has good units like Karel, Ninian and Jaffar and a bunch of chaff with units like Priscilla, Rebecca and Lucius. Before that, you had good units like Reinhardt, Klein, Eldigan and Sanaki and some mediocre units like Olwen and Lachesis. Before that, you had Ephraim and Julia for good units and Eirika and Seliph for not as good.

Of course, another reason to hold onto duplicates is when crap like one of this month's Missions require fielding 4 fucking Armors on a Lunatic Map and win without casualties (or at least burning a Light's Blessing at the last minute to cheese the requirement), when as of right now there's a grand total of 5 Armored unit types, one of whom is rare, while two others are uncommon. Its kinda bullshit and I feel bad for anyone who might have had enough through duplicates but Feathered or Merged them instead (at least the freebie Draug now gives those out there who couldn't even field one Armor a chance to get past the Normal tier March Missions and the 8 Orbs up for grabs behind that gate).
Red units will always outnumber green and blue by a significant margin because swords are the most common weapon type in FE period. Hell there aren't even any playable axe users in FE2 from what I understand.

As for Earth Sword not being that hot, I disagree. Make it a sword that targets Res and give it the absorb effect and it creates a unique niche (which she is not currently fulfilling because of the *.5 modifier on healer attacks). Even if she wasn't that great of a unit, I'd prefer mediocre red sword user with a gimmick to worst healer. >.>

And I don't think they intend for any of the focus units to be "bad." Like Seliph for example, I can see what they were going for with him, it just doesn't work in the meta that has developed. I would not be shocked if we start seeing "bad" units less frequently as time goes on as the developers get a better feel for the meta that has developed (although very little can be done to make healers viable so all of them will suck forever).

Side note, You really put Ephraim as good and Eirika as not good? I don't think I would classify Ephraim as bad, but Eirika completely outshines him in overall usefulness. I mean Eirika is one of the better buffers in the game, so she can fit on any team and is priceless for a -blade focused team.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 14, 2017, 10:27:33 PM
Sucky draw day. Blew 40 Orbs and got 9 3* units + a 4* Merric (who I already have). :(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 14, 2017, 10:50:16 PM
Side note, You really put Ephraim as good and Eirika as not good? I don't think I would classify Ephraim as bad, but Eirika completely outshines him in overall usefulness. I mean Eirika is one of the better buffers in the game, so she can fit on any team and is priceless for a -blade focused team.

In my defense, I don't actually have an Eirika to compare to Ephraim with (much to my consternation).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 15, 2017, 03:45:01 AM
Sucky draw day. Blew 40 Orbs and got 9 3* units + a 4* Merric (who I already have). :(

Haha, your luck is terrible! Now watch me fail!

3* Gwendolyn - That's the third. One more, and I have an entire team. Yay...

5* Reinhardt - Wait? What! Wrong focus, but I'm not going to complain! No, wait. Is he good? Is Reinhardt a good unit? Please tell me he's a good unit.

3* Hana - Hana? More like Nana... Or Hachi, if she keeps this up.

3* Lon'qu - Again, I do like him, but I don't need this many!

3* Barst - Barst zelf, eikel...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 15, 2017, 06:37:59 AM

In my defense, I don't actually have an Eirika to compare to Ephraim with (much to my consternation).
Well let's put it like this, if she stands next to a -Blade user, their attack damage will increase by 10 points even without any other buffs.

5* Reinhardt - Wait? What! Wrong focus, but I'm not going to complain! No, wait. Is he good? Is Reinhardt a good unit? Please tell me he's a good unit.
I don't know if he qualifies as "good," but he is not "bad." Looking at the tier list I use, he is ranked as A+ (there are two ranks above S and S+). For comparison, M. Robin is also currently ranked A+ and the only blue tome user that is above them is Linde who is S+. Reinhardt is very good on attack phase due to him having effectively a brace weapon. However his speed sucks as a result, so he will get doubled fairly frequently. Additionally his stat totals are kind of bad (mounted units have lower overall stats due to higher movement and he gets a -5 speed from his brave weapon), so he is not going to be usable to get you to the high tiers of arena play. But he will probably be incredibly powerful if he is your first 5*.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 15, 2017, 06:57:56 AM
Well, he's my first 5* I don't hate. I already had... Nowi. Technically a better character and also a blue 'mage'. ... Oh well, at this rate I'm never going to rank high in the arena anyway, but I might as well train him up to L40 as there should be plenty of other occassions to use him.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on March 15, 2017, 08:19:13 AM
I have Reinhardt and he's pretty great (with crappy boons in DEF- and RES+), I don't really have a problem using him in the arena personally...I haven't really looked into how the ranking stuff works but I win while picking Advanced pretty consistently. Pull Back or a Dancer to support Reinhardt avoids his weaknesses for me, and I have both on my main team (Roy/Reinhardt/Nino/Olivia).

Anyway my last 60 orbs have not gotten me anything useful- guess I'll do one of them live pulls you guys are so fond of.

3 Red, 1 Blue, 1 Colorless. Yuck, was aiming for Ninian.

4* Tiki: Meh, already got one.
4* Seliph: Well, like I said I haven't played the Jugdral games much, but he's new at least.
4* Ogma: Meh.
4* Jeorge: Think I have like 3 of this guy already.
4* Robin M: Thought I got lucky when I saw the cutscene. Oh well.

At least I didn't get flooded with 3 stars like my last 3 pulls I guess?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 15, 2017, 10:45:27 AM
[member=33]Tomara[/member] got a 5* unit!  YAAAAAAAY!!!!




Also...



WHY IS THERE SO MUCH INCEST IN FIRE EMBLEM!?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 15, 2017, 03:03:20 PM
[member=33]Tomara[/member] got a 5* unit!  YAAAAAAAY!!!!




Also...



WHY IS THERE SO MUCH INCEST IN FIRE EMBLEM!?

Kinda part and parcel of the whole anyone can support/have kids with anyone. Plus old man Kaga is rather old skool in design philosophy and getting that authentic medieval Europe nobility feeling of everyone being each other's cousin and arranging marriages in half-assed efforts to avoid warring with each other (which usually fell apart at the first sign of dispute), and that aspect kinda held over for awhile (Tellus avoids it, but then Awakening/Fates brought eugenics back with a vengeance). Not that Kaga going solo has helped matters since all of his independent games (Tearring/Berwick/Vestaria) are even more :asoiaf:-ish than before thanks to a lack of oversight.


That said, word on the grapevine is that another round of Missions are on the way, and of course there's another one that requires 4 fucking Armors, so I pulled twice.

The bad news is that I still didn't get any Armors from the draws (why the hell are they spamming all these Armor Missions now when Zephiel's GHeB is in late April?), the good news is that I now have Cherche (3 stars of course) and 9 repeats (including yet another 4 star Marth, a 4 star Sully (saves me 2k Feathers) and a 5 star Cordelia (saves me another 20k and makes my leanings towards Eliwood getting 5 stared all the more likely; especially after all the flailing that went into that last GHeB and my Atk Bane 4 star Setsuna), and a bunch of 3 star rejects).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 15, 2017, 05:36:27 PM
Well, he's my first 5* I don't hate. I already had... Nowi. Technically a better character and also a blue 'mage'. ... Oh well, at this rate I'm never going to rank high in the arena anyway, but I might as well train him up to L40 as there should be plenty of other occassions to use him.
You can probably make him into a very powerful unit by slapping Death Blow onto him. Problem is that all the units that can learn it are semi-rare. >.> But if you happen to have any spare 4*s of Effie, Hawkeye, Klein, or Ursula then you might be able to kick him up a notch tomorrow (depending on how  skill inheritance ends up working). Although if Skill Inheritance requires you to learn the skill on the source unit, that would limit you to Death Blow 2.

WHY IS THERE SO MUCH INCEST IN FIRE EMBLEM!?
I dunno. I just sort of accept it as part of the series since FE4 was my first FE. And incest is a major plot point in that game. Not just implied incest, actual undeniable incest occurring is a major plot point. After that happened, really no point in questioning the half implied instances.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on March 15, 2017, 07:25:38 PM
WHY IS THERE SO MUCH INCEST IN FIRE EMBLEM!?

Feudalism.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 16, 2017, 03:57:35 AM
WHY IS THERE SO MUCH INCEST IN FIRE EMBLEM!?

Feudalism.

+ weird otaku obsessions infecting the franchise.

In other news:

10th Stratum missions are bullshit. Unless this pull is absolutely perfect, I won't be able to complete them. Here we go...

3* Florina - Well, she's new and on a pegasus. ... Yeah. Not she's not gonna survive the tenth.

3* Donnel - ...

3* Cecilia - A mounted unit. Wouldn't be bad, if I didn't already have a L38 4* Cecilia.

3* Bartre - ...

Last one is a white one. If life is fair, this would be a Takumi. A 4* non-mounted healer would be okay too. I need one of those. That's reasonable to ask for, right?

3* Clarine - Fuck.



Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 16, 2017, 06:42:10 AM
So skill inheritance is out. I haven't messed around with it too much yet. When I first started messing around with it, thought for a moment it needed to be same color type, but nope that was just my mistake due to me selecting favorites. Oh god removing favorite status from all my spare 4*s is going to suck. >.>

10th Stratum missions are bullshit. Unless this pull is absolutely perfect, I won't be able to complete them. Here we go...

To be fair, beating the 10th stratum 15 times with any team is complete bullshit, so even with my ridiculously deep roster, I am probably not going to be able to clear all (any?) of the 10th stratum quests. >.>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 16, 2017, 07:27:28 AM
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So skill inheritance is out. I haven't messed around with it too much yet. When I first started messing around with it, thought for a moment it needed to be same color type, but nope that was just my mistake due to me selecting favorites. Oh god removing favorite status from all my spare 4*s is going to suck. >.>

Finally, my extra Lon'qus will serve a purpose. Vantage for everyone!

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To be fair, beating the 10th stratum 15 times with any team is complete bullshit, so even with my ridiculously deep roster, I am probably not going to be able to clear all (any?) of the 10th stratum quests. >.>

With some extra training and a lot of luck, I might be able to do infantry and cavalry. While I technically have enough armoured units, the ones I have can't counter mages effectively, especially if they're without a healer.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 16, 2017, 12:03:30 PM
I know for a fact that 3 of those Orbs are beyond my reach thanks to that 4 Armors bullshit.

Not too worried about Cavaliers, Infantry or Fliers since I already have a healthy mix of level 40 units of those types (and I'm already -1 on the Infantry requirement), but fuck dem Armors.

And Inheritance is already looking to benefit the Whales more than anyone else.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 16, 2017, 12:04:47 PM
My last live pull for a while, probably?  2 Blue, 2 Null, 1 Red

1. 3* Virion.  Why won't this guy leave me alone?

2. 3* Clarine.  Who is this 13-year-old in the short skirt?

3. 4* Hinata.  Yay Fates!

4. 3* F-Corrin.  Ok.

5. 4* Subaki.  Yay Fates!  But I got this guy last time...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 16, 2017, 12:19:01 PM

2. 3* Clarine.  Who is this 13-year-old in the short skirt?

She's from Binding Blade. I'm not a fan either, but she's actually a competent healer. There's the mobility factor, of course, but she also gets all her best stuff at only 4*. Martyr can be pretty awesome when she's somewhat hurt. Think 'bringing tanky units back to full health' awesome. Fear, which most likely won't hurt all that many enemies will still lower their attack by 6. Not a bad thing if your melee units are on the frail side.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 16, 2017, 06:42:56 PM
God damn it, all these possible options are paralyzing me! I don't know what to do! I don't plan on transferring weapons, but that still leaves so many possible options. I'm probably going to have to spend an hour or two this weekend figuring out who is worth keeping in reserve and who is safe to throw out from my stores of reserves. Some units that have useful skills that I have noticed:

Cain- Wings of Mercy 3 at 4* (assume all of these are for 4* versions)
Roy- Triangle Adept 3 (Selena seems more plentiful but one has 2 at 4*)
Palla or Odin- Moonbow (a very strong 2 charge special)
Cecilia- Escape Route 3
Shanna- Desperation 3 and Iceberg
Sophia and Male Corrin- Dragon Fang
Eirika- Pivot (throw that onto armors for fun)
Lon'qu- Vantage 3
Adult Tiki- Bonfire
Saizo- Poison Strike 3
Hinata- Fury 3
Effie- Wary Fighter 3
Wrys- Everything he has (sadly there is no way to Live to Serve 3 outside of 5* units)

I see a few things I can do with my spares, but this is going to take a while to figure out exactly what I want (and of course I only have one spare Roy at the moment).

Not too worried about Cavaliers, Infantry or Fliers since I already have a healthy mix of level 40 units of those types (and I'm already -1 on the Infantry requirement), but fuck dem Armors.
Jesus, you've already cleared level 10 14 times? I avoid level 10 like the plague because of how much bullshit is up there. Although most of my stamina is spent on leveling up, so I'm not really fielding an optimal team I suppose.

She's from Binding Blade. I'm not a fan either, but she's actually a competent healer. There's the mobility factor, of course, but she also gets all her best stuff at only 4*. Martyr can be pretty awesome when she's somewhat hurt. Think 'bringing tanky units back to full health' awesome. Fear, which most likely won't hurt all that many enemies will still lower their attack by 6. Not a bad thing if your melee units are on the frail side.
At this point all healers are really pretty much equal thanks to skill inheritance. Basically just grab a 4* Wrys and steal Rehabilitate and Heavenly Light. Then get either Live to Serve or Wings of Mercy and boom instant best healer. I suppose Priscilla, Clarine, and Elise have a minor edge due to mobility, but that is slightly countered by the inability to go into forests.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 16, 2017, 08:48:03 PM
God damn it, all these possible options are paralyzing me! I don't know what to do! I don't plan on transferring weapons, but that still leaves so many possible options. I'm probably going to have to spend an hour or two this weekend figuring out who is worth keeping in reserve and who is safe to throw out from my stores of reserves. Some units that have useful skills that I have noticed:

Cain- Wings of Mercy 3 at 4* (assume all of these are for 4* versions)
Roy- Triangle Adept 3 (Selena seems more plentiful but one has 2 at 4*)
Palla or Odin- Moonbow (a very strong 2 charge special)
Cecilia- Escape Route 3
Shanna- Desperation 3 and Iceberg
Sophia and Male Corrin- Dragon Fang
Eirika- Pivot (throw that onto armors for fun)
Lon'qu- Vantage 3
Adult Tiki- Bonfire
Saizo- Poison Strike 3
Hinata- Fury 3
Effie- Wary Fighter 3
Wrys- Everything he has (sadly there is no way to Live to Serve 3 outside of 5* units)

I see a few things I can do with my spares, but this is going to take a while to figure out exactly what I want (and of course I only have one spare Roy at the moment).

Not too worried about Cavaliers, Infantry or Fliers since I already have a healthy mix of level 40 units of those types (and I'm already -1 on the Infantry requirement), but fuck dem Armors.
Jesus, you've already cleared level 10 14 times? I avoid level 10 like the plague because of how much bullshit is up there. Although most of my stamina is spent on leveling up, so I'm not really fielding an optimal team I suppose.

She's from Binding Blade. I'm not a fan either, but she's actually a competent healer. There's the mobility factor, of course, but she also gets all her best stuff at only 4*. Martyr can be pretty awesome when she's somewhat hurt. Think 'bringing tanky units back to full health' awesome. Fear, which most likely won't hurt all that many enemies will still lower their attack by 6. Not a bad thing if your melee units are on the frail side.
At this point all healers are really pretty much equal thanks to skill inheritance. Basically just grab a 4* Wrys and steal Rehabilitate and Heavenly Light. Then get either Live to Serve or Wings of Mercy and boom instant best healer. I suppose Priscilla, Clarine, and Elise have a minor edge due to mobility, but that is slightly countered by the inability to go into forests.

I meant, I'm one down, 14 to go (I haven't had the time or energy to deal with that grind yet; not since I started TitS SC today). That said, I tend to pop in on that stratum to maximize my daily Shard/Crystal gain. What I have been doing today is to go up the scrub tiers with scrubs and my required 4 star level 31~ Askr the Grouches for that tier.

Also, compared notes and I don't know whether its the Boon or the Bane but my 5 star Cordelia has less HP and more Def than my 4 star would at 5 stars. In short, I'm burning my Feathers on Eliwood to 5 star his ass (IDK what his Boons/Banes are but I'm going to want a 5 star in case of another Lunatic GHeB, because I can sorta replicate Gordin's function with Klein (or I can just upgrade my 3 star Gordin into 4 stars and take him from there) and I just got my hands on a 4 star Sully).

As for Inheritance shit, I'm of half a mind to get Darting Blow onto Ephraim (he's already all about delivering one big hit, why not put some extra speed behind that and go for Double), but I'd need to 5 star my other Camilla or find someone with Darting Blow 3 at 4 stars to pass on.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 16, 2017, 09:20:40 PM
Ah, I currently have 2 wins for the infantry goal. I'll probably end up getting that one. I do have four trained cavalry units but I don't see myself wasting 135 minimum stamina that I could be using on training just for those orbs. Armors, I have one trained and plan on training another soonish. Fliers...I have one trained and zero in the pipeline? Actually that reminds me, we have yet to get any new fliers or armors since release. I guess we'll technically be getting a "new" flier in the next GHB?

You reminded me that I forgot to look up units for the Blow skills. So it looks like Klein gives Death Blow at 4* and Florina and Tharja gives Darting Blow at 4*.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 17, 2017, 12:04:50 AM
Yeah, but I wouldn't waste Klein on Death Blow when he provides Quick Riposte for counterattacking shenanigans. And speaking of, it might be better to give him one of the Spurs, or Breath of Life/Savage Blow instead.

As for new Fliers/Armors, we did get Narcian (assuming you had a party strong enough to deal with his bullshit back then), but since then its been predominantly Horses, Red Infantry and Grey units from GBA FEs.

My current situation is that I've got the Fliers (Level 40 5 star Camilla, Level 40 4 star Cordelia and Level 30+ 4 stars of either Est, Palla, Caeda, Florina or Beruka, with that 5 star Cordelia I just got (her Boon/Bane aren't much different from my earlier Cody, so I'll train the new one up and Promote + Inherit + Merge the old one when I get a chance to Limit Breaker (despite hardly even knowing her)) on top of 3 star Narcian, Subaki and Cherche who are currently waiting for enough Feathers to promote to 4 star), and I'm doing okay on the Cavalier front (4 star Level 37 Frederick is my current headliner, 4 star Cain and Eliwood are 35~ish right now, I was working on a 3 star Sully but a 4 star Sully fell into my lap recently, and I've slowly but surely been grinding Cecilia up from nothing (bringing anyone from 1 star just isn't worth it) and Clarine can tag along if I want a healer (the big advantage Cavs have over Fliers right now), but my Armor situation sucks out loud (I pulled a 3 star Gwendolyn ages ago, but freebie 2 star Draug has been the only other Armor I've seen since). My Dragonstones and Dancers situations are pretty dire as well (two Adult Tikis for Manaketes and 3 Olivias, the 4 star I'm using was raised from my 1 star before two more 3 stars fell into my lap, its been kinda stupid).


Pulled Edit: Figured I might as well keep trying to solve my Armor issues. I have not. 4 star Nino was the only pull of note. At this rate, I'm not going to have a choice but to wait for Zephiel before I get my Armor Brigade.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 17, 2017, 04:11:46 AM
Another live pull. Can't be worse than the last one. Besides, I'm expecting there will be atleast one 5*! I also expect it will be a Takumi, because apparently that's totally how this game works!

4* Seliph - Well, he's new and 4*s! Not bad! Next one is going to be even better!

3* Draug - ... I don't need any extra armours, but... okay. Positive thinking!

3* Sully - Fire Emblem Heroes, I'm willing to overlook this, but you can't keep acting like this.

3* Jagen - Missing some stars there, Jagen! Also, you're Jagen.

Okay, final one. This one will be a Takumi. It has to be. I believe in the odds (which are terrible)!

3* Virion - Go throw yourself off a wall or something...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 17, 2017, 06:44:34 AM
Yeah, but I wouldn't waste Klein on Death Blow when he provides Quick Riposte for counterattacking shenanigans. And speaking of, it might be better to give him one of the Spurs, or Breath of Life/Savage Blow instead.
Thing is Klein provides Death Blow 3 at 4*s and only Quick Riptose 2 at 4*s. Apparently no one currently provides Quick Riptose 3 at 4*s yet, but you can get Quick Riptose 2 off of Subaki instead while there is no other source of Death Blow 3 other than 5*s.

As for new Fliers/Armors, we did get Narcian (assuming you had a party strong enough to deal with his bullshit back then), but since then its been predominantly Horses, Red Infantry and Grey units from GBA FEs.
Honestly? I don't really mentally count the GHB as new characters since they are already in the game (at least until the Linus one), but yeah I guess you are technically right about us getting one new flier. Although honestly, I forget that Narcian exists most of the time. XP

Another live pull. Can't be worse than the last one. Besides, I'm expecting there will be atleast one 5*! I also expect it will be a Takumi, because apparently that's totally how this game works!
If you really want a Takumi, it might be best to save orbs for the next time he is a focus character (probably next voting gauntlet?) so you can maximize your chances.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 17, 2017, 07:11:37 AM
If you really want a Takumi, it might be best to save orbs for the next time he is a focus character (probably next voting gauntlet?) so you can maximize your chances.

True, but I like the thrill of imminent failure. Besides, there are plenty of other characters that would make me happy. Despite the game being dominated by cool sword users, I still don't have anything better than a 4* Eirika and 4* Alphonse. And while many of my favourite characters aren't all that great in Heroes, I wouldn't mind having them just so I can play with my favourites.

Plus, I know that even under the best circumstances, the odds of getting a Takumi is maybe ~1%. It's better than normal but far from odds you should bet on. And hey, it's Fire Emblem. There'd be something wrong with the game if the RNG gods smiled upon you.

So I'm just going to enjoy the game as a free playing, pulling whenever I have 20 orbs. If I get a Takumi, that's great. And if not... Well, it's not going to ruin the game for me.

(But I still want one! D:)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on March 17, 2017, 09:24:06 AM
I've actually barely paid attention to skills myself, so I have no idea what's good. Can you inherit stuff like Dance? That'd be pretty broken.

I've been clearing out the training missions. I'm pretty sure I can get the Infantry one for the Tenth Stratum, but I doubt I'll be able to hit the other ones especially since you need to do them 15 goddamn times each. I don't even have 4 armors.

Anyway, live pull time.

2 Red, 3 Blue. Fingers crossed.

4* Stahl: Well, I guess I can try to get the cavalry mission?
4* Palla: Hm, didn't have a sword flyer either, so I'll take it.
3* Donnel: Hate this kid and his dumb hat.
3* Corrin F: Eh, already have her at 4*.
4* Abel: Well, he's new at least.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 17, 2017, 09:37:54 AM

3* Donnel: Hate this kid and his dumb hat.


Hathen is a man of refinement.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 17, 2017, 10:13:13 AM

3* Donnel: Hate this kid and his dumb hat.


Hathen is a man of refinement.

While I'd argue his point in Awakening, here, Donnel is kinda rather scrublord-ish. He's like Setsuna with Lances, although there's only 5 Blue Infantry units in the game right now (the bulk of Blue units right now are Fliers). Also the game decided to throw me a bone this morning and gave me a free 4 star Female Corrin (yay a third manakete).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 17, 2017, 09:33:44 PM
Start of Ninian's level 40 dialogue, "So you surely realize by now that...dragon blood courses through my veins."...I never would have guessed that Ninian without you subtly pointing it out. You should have given me some kind of clue sooner. I mean how am I supposed to guess that after 40 levels of your routing enemies by turning into a dragon? XP

Side note, I love that we got 1.5 Exp back. Hopefully I will be able to speed a few more characters up to level 40.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on March 17, 2017, 10:04:17 PM
Eh, what the hell. Logging in to get my free orbs and do one o' dem live pulls...

Lessee... 2 neutral, 1 each of RBG...

Neutral #1: 3* Lissa... a 3-star, but at least it's one of my favorite character designs from Awakening?
Blue: 3* Corrin... Well, I got that 4-star log-in bonus, so... yeah.
Red: 4* Draug... I'd yet to get a single armored unit, so probably useful at the very least.
Neutral #2: 3* Felicia... Uhh...huh. Moving on.
Green: 3* Bartre... 'nother 3-star, whatever.

Yeah... since I have 15 orbs I might play a bit more and see what happens, but I really think you actually have to have some history with the FE series to get much enjoyment out of this for more than a couple hours.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 18, 2017, 12:49:37 AM
Eh, what the hell. Logging in to get my free orbs and do one o' dem live pulls...

Lessee... 2 neutral, 1 each of RBG...

Neutral #1: 3* Lissa... a 3-star, but at least it's one of my favorite character designs from Awakening?
Blue: 3* Corrin... Well, I got that 4-star log-in bonus, so... yeah.
Red: 4* Draug... I'd yet to get a single armored unit, so probably useful at the very least.
Neutral #2: 3* Felicia... Uhh...huh. Moving on.
Green: 3* Bartre... 'nother 3-star, whatever.

Yeah... since I have 15 orbs I might play a bit more and see what happens, but I really think you actually have to have some history with the FE series to get much enjoyment out of this for more than a couple hours.

Its fairer than other Gatchas of similar ilk, but yeah, its Record Keeper all over again (especially since the plot so far has been 'whatever'). At least there's a chance to bone up on some retro characters in the near future.

Also, you didn't get a 2 star Draug from the current Focus Mission?


Live Pull Edit: Got enough Orbs to pull again, so I did. Nothing but repeats, but a 4 star Gunter (saves me 2200 Feathers), Kagero (hello Poison Dagger Gaius) and Florina (maybe worth something to someone), but more importantly, I also pulled a second 3 star Gwendolyn (yay, my 3rd Armor, just one more to go, then the level grinding commences) and another 3 star Gordin (a 4 star version would've been nice on my Feathers, but I'll live).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 20, 2017, 03:42:06 AM
Completing those 10th Stratum guests isn't going too well (I'm halfway with Infantry and got one win for Cavalry), so let's hope this pull will make a difference. I'm expecting it will because apparently that works.

Okay, the orbs are looking good. Three red means I might actually get a proper sword user. Finally.

4* Tharja - I'm not a fan of her character but I heard she's a good unit, so yay!

3* Olivia - Well, that gives me something to work with if I ever want a dancer, I guess.

3* Palla - Appalling.

3* Cecilia - I don't need this many! Wait, actually, she's not bad skill fodder. I'll take it!

Last one is a white one and will totally be a Takumi. It really will be! Really...!

5* Lucius - Holy shit! A 5*! And from the focus and everything! This is great! I mean, he doesn't seem like a great unit, but it's nothing skill transfer can't fix, I think. More importantly, he was one of my faves from his original game and I've always felt a little bad for letting him die the first time I finished Fire Emblem 7. That probably doesn't sound like a big deal, but it was the first Fire Emblem I played and that was the only time I didn't reset to 'save' a character. This Lucius has Miracle, so it's like destiny or some shit like that.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 20, 2017, 07:02:45 AM
Completing those 10th Stratum guests isn't going too well (I'm halfway with Infantry and got one win for Cavalry), so let's hope this pull will make a difference. I'm expecting it will because apparently that works.

Okay, the orbs are looking good. Three red means I might actually get a proper sword user. Finally.

4* Tharja - I'm not a fan of her character but I heard she's a good unit, so yay!

3* Olivia - Well, that gives me something to work with if I ever want a dancer, I guess.

3* Palla - Appalling.

3* Cecilia - I don't need this many! Wait, actually, she's not bad skill fodder. I'll take it!

Last one is a white one and will totally be a Takumi. It really will be! Really...!

5* Lucius - Holy shit! A 5*! And from the focus and everything! This is great! I mean, he doesn't seem like a great unit, but it's nothing skill transfer can't fix, I think. More importantly, he was one of my faves from his original game and I've always felt a little bad for letting him die the first time I finished Fire Emblem 7. That probably doesn't sound like a big deal, but it was the first Fire Emblem I played and that was the only time I didn't reset to 'save' a character. This Lucius has Miracle, so it's like destiny or some shit like that.

Dancers are actually really good since as long as they have the stats to not die to a stiff breeze, they give you huge mobility shenanigans (and in a game with maps of the 6x8 variety, that's even more useful) and combat potential (both in getting somebody who's served their purpose out of harms way and by letting your heavy hitter hit twice in a single round (icing two foes in one round without serious reprisal can easily win a match).

Tharja's big thing is being a Magic user with high Atk and Spd as surprisingly few units have good Res scores and she comes with Darting Blow for extra doubling potential, plus her later tomes double the effects of Buffs on her (so Rally Attack gives +8 Atk instead of just +4 and Hone Atk 3 would provide her with +10 Atk). So yeah, she's pretty nuts with proper support.

Lucius is unfortunately a Staff Bot in a game where their endgame sucks. They level really slowly after a while, their healing and abilities largely fall off or become so pigeonholed that they can't keep up with the demand, enemies become so well equipped that you're usually dealing in ORKOs which makes patching units up moot, and their stats don't really keep up all that well (even somebody like Azama, who have an actual Def score, is still fairly easy to double and kill, and even with Pain, he usually doesn't have the Atk to bypass enemies' Res enough to actually inflict the 1HP of damage needed to finish the job).

Palla's one of the game's two Sword Fliers (and the one to get Ruby Sword/+), so she's not totally useless (at the very least she's a good source of Spur Spd). Of course, I suspect you already have at least one (and 3 stars is pretty bad for her).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 20, 2017, 07:18:43 AM

Dancers are actually really good since as long as they have the stats to not die to a stiff breeze, they give you huge mobility shenanigans (and in a game with maps of the 6x8 variety, that's even more useful) and combat potential (both in getting somebody who's served their purpose out of harms way and by letting your heavy hitter hit twice in a single round (icing two foes in one round without serious reprisal can easily win a match).

Yeah, but I'm not sure I want to spend a lot of time and resources on a low-star Olivia. As far as dancers go, this 3* is my best option and I'd still have to feed her feathers.

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Tharja's big thing is being a Magic user with high Atk and Spd as surprisingly few units have good Res scores and she comes with Darting Blow for extra doubling potential, plus her later tomes double the effects of Buffs on her (so Rally Attack gives +8 Atk instead of just +4 and Hone Atk 3 would provide her with +10 Atk). So yeah, she's pretty nuts with proper support.

Fortunately, I have a lot of good characters that somehow boost stats. I'm going to raise Tharja and see if she's a good replacement for my Sophia.

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Lucius is unfortunately a Staff Bot in a game where their endgame sucks. They level really slowly after a while, their healing and abilities largely fall off or become so pigeonholed that they can't keep up with the demand, enemies become so well equipped that you're usually dealing in ORKOs which makes patching units up moot, and their stats don't really keep up all that well (even somebody like Azama, who have an actual Def score, is still fairly easy to double and kill, and even with Pain, he usually doesn't have the Atk to bypass enemies' Res enough to actually inflict the 1HP of damage needed to finish the job).

Maybe, but I can't count the number of times Clarine or Lissa saved my butt. With the right skills, healers can fully heal my more tanky units like Nowi and Effie. Looking at what I have available, Lissa is the reason I'll be able to complete the 10th Stratum Infantry quest. All those wins are thanks to her keeping Nowi alive.

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Palla's one of the game's two Sword Fliers (and the one to get Ruby Sword/+), so she's not totally useless (at the very least she's a good source of Spur Spd). Of course, I suspect you already have at least one (and 3 stars is pretty bad for her).

This was my fourth 3* Palla...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 20, 2017, 11:35:58 AM

Dancers are actually really good since as long as they have the stats to not die to a stiff breeze, they give you huge mobility shenanigans (and in a game with maps of the 6x8 variety, that's even more useful) and combat potential (both in getting somebody who's served their purpose out of harms way and by letting your heavy hitter hit twice in a single round (icing two foes in one round without serious reprisal can easily win a match).

Yeah, but I'm not sure I want to spend a lot of time and resources on a low-star Olivia. As far as dancers go, this 3* is my best option and I'd still have to feed her feathers.

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Tharja's big thing is being a Magic user with high Atk and Spd as surprisingly few units have good Res scores and she comes with Darting Blow for extra doubling potential, plus her later tomes double the effects of Buffs on her (so Rally Attack gives +8 Atk instead of just +4 and Hone Atk 3 would provide her with +10 Atk). So yeah, she's pretty nuts with proper support.

Fortunately, I have a lot of good characters that somehow boost stats. I'm going to raise Tharja and see if she's a good replacement for my Sophia.

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Lucius is unfortunately a Staff Bot in a game where their endgame sucks. They level really slowly after a while, their healing and abilities largely fall off or become so pigeonholed that they can't keep up with the demand, enemies become so well equipped that you're usually dealing in ORKOs which makes patching units up moot, and their stats don't really keep up all that well (even somebody like Azama, who have an actual Def score, is still fairly easy to double and kill, and even with Pain, he usually doesn't have the Atk to bypass enemies' Res enough to actually inflict the 1HP of damage needed to finish the job).

Maybe, but I can't count the number of times Clarine or Lissa saved my butt. With the right skills, healers can fully heal my more tanky units like Nowi and Effie. Looking at what I have available, Lissa is the reason I'll be able to complete the 10th Stratum Infantry quest. All those wins are thanks to her keeping Nowi alive.

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Palla's one of the game's two Sword Fliers (and the one to get Ruby Sword/+), so she's not totally useless (at the very least she's a good source of Spur Spd). Of course, I suspect you already have at least one (and 3 stars is pretty bad for her).

This was my fourth 3* Palla...

Ouch in regards to Palla.

Since my tankiest units are Ephraim (who's not particularly fast and folds at the first sign of magic), and Camilla (who doesn't have the HP or Spd to make use of her stats, also Arrow weakness), I'm kinda less partial towards healers.

I don't recall Sophia really having anything that stands out (although that's because I've been stuck with 2/3 stars and really haven't gone back to her or Raigh in a long time; then again, its probably due to my disappointment with Virion spilling over).

My fear is that next month's gonna up the ante and stick us with some dumb Mission where we need to clear a Chapter 7 Lunatic stage with 4 Dancing/Singing units.


That said, who else picked up Michalis this morning? I only got the 3 star version due to not having enough time before I needed to head off for work.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 20, 2017, 12:21:50 PM
The thing about my 4* Sophia is that she's sturdy enough to survive the counter attack of an average L40 Hector. As long as there's an obstacle between them, she will win. Since I have exactly 0 decent sword fighters, she's my only reliable anti-Hector unit. If Tharja can't do the same or double Hector, it's Tharno for me.

(Yes, that was terrible. I'm sorry.)


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That said, who else picked up Michalis this morning? I only got the 3 star version due to not having enough time before I needed to head off for work.

Huh, wait, he's available? The only new special map in my game is Starter Support 2.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 20, 2017, 02:44:45 PM
The thing about my 4* Sophia is that she's sturdy enough to survive the counter attack of an average L40 Hector. As long as there's an obstacle between them, she will win. Since I have exactly 0 decent sword fighters, she's my only reliable anti-Hector unit. If Tharja can't do the same or double Hector, it's Tharno for me.

(Yes, that was terrible. I'm sorry.)


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That said, who else picked up Michalis this morning? I only got the 3 star version due to not having enough time before I needed to head off for work.

Huh, wait, he's available? The only new special map in my game is Starter Support 2.

He was....for all of 45 minutes (he'll be back by Friday).

[spoiler]It was a special thing meant for Japan only, but anyone could participate if you were up at that hour (I just so happened to have a few minutes between getting ready and going off to work).

We all will get a bunch of Orbs and Feathers out of it though.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 20, 2017, 05:27:49 PM
Regarding Palla, she is a good source of Moonbow if you aren't swimming in Odins, so having spares of her is not a bad thing (need to promote her to 4* first though).

That said, who else picked up Michalis this morning? I only got the 3 star version due to not having enough time before I needed to head off for work.
I got the 3* Michalis this morning. I was unaware of the event, so I panicked when I noticed that he was up and was only going to be up for 15 more min. I tried for the 4* several times and repeatedly got my ass kicked. So I took a shot at the 3* without any issue. Strategy "We got a Hector" was not useful on this map. I'll probably try to get the 4* because having a spare to transfer the shield ability would be useful in the future.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 20, 2017, 06:25:40 PM
Regarding Palla, she is a good source of Moonbow if you aren't swimming in Odins, so having spares of her is not a bad thing (need to promote her to 4* first though).

That said, who else picked up Michalis this morning? I only got the 3 star version due to not having enough time before I needed to head off for work.
I got the 3* Michalis this morning. I was unaware of the event, so I panicked when I noticed that he was up and was only going to be up for 15 more min. I tried for the 4* several times and repeatedly got my ass kicked. So I took a shot at the 3* without any issue. Strategy "We got a Hector" was not useful on this map. I'll probably try to get the 4* because having a spare to transfer the shield ability would be useful in the future.

I had Ephraim and Eliwood to bait and smite respectfully, with Klein and Raven on standby for anti-air/weapon triangle needs.

Unfortunately, Ephraim isn't strong enough to one hit the Pegasus on 4 star and got combo killed by Michalis. I suspect that this is why Minvera is recommended as she's both beefy and fast and isn't at a triangle disadvantage to Michalis when your bait gets comboed (or alternatively, she's both strong and fast enough to ice the lance using Pull Backer in one round, letting her disarm the trap without getting caught in it, letting Eliwood/Selena finish).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 20, 2017, 09:30:23 PM
I got the 3* Michalis this morning. I was unaware of the event, so I panicked when I noticed that he was up and was only going to be up for 15 more min. I tried for the 4* several times and repeatedly got my ass kicked. So I took a shot at the 3* without any issue. Strategy "We got a Hector" was not useful on this map. I'll probably try to get the 4* because having a spare to transfer the shield ability would be useful in the future.

I had Ephraim and Eliwood to bait and smite respectfully, with Klein and Raven on standby for anti-air/weapon triangle needs.

Unfortunately, Ephraim isn't strong enough to one hit the Pegasus on 4 star and got combo killed by Michalis. I suspect that this is why Minvera is recommended as she's both beefy and fast and isn't at a triangle disadvantage to Michalis when your bait gets comboed (or alternatively, she's both strong and fast enough to ice the lance using Pull Backer in one round, letting her disarm the trap without getting caught in it, letting Eliwood/Selena finish).
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Ah if only I had a Minerva. Oh well, I guess that is what the next GHB focus is for...not that I expect to have her trained up that quickly. I seriously do not get how people can get level 40s same day new characters release. It normally takes me something like 3 days to train them up to 40.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 21, 2017, 05:02:41 PM
Drew a 5-star Seliph this morning. Which is cool, but not that useful because I have Lucina. Ah well.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on March 21, 2017, 10:08:38 PM
That 4* Palla I drew the other day is really putting in a lot of work, because I'm 10/15 on the quest for flying team wins. Pretty much a roll of the dice on if I get a map that I can actually survive, but without Palla I'm pretty sure it'd be impossible. If I'm lucky I should be able to hit the infantry one too. I have a cavalry team but I don't think 12 days is enough time to get there. The armor one can eat a dick.

Also I've decided to only draw blues for now, at least while this Focus is still going on. I got a soft spot for 7 and Ninian's one of my favorite characters. At worst I'm only spending 1 more orb per character.

Got off to a great start when my first set of draws was from 3 reds and 2 greens. Picked the green and got 3* Cecilia.

Second try only got one blue, which ended up being 3* Jagen.

Third try got two blues, 3* Oboro and Shanna. At least the former is new.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 22, 2017, 03:52:39 AM
I cleared that infantry mission with 4* Lissa, 5* Nowi, 4* Sophia, 4* Alfonse and a lot of luck. Now I'm halfway through the cavalry mission thanks to 5* Reinhardt, 4* Cecilia, 4* Clarine and L28 4* Stahl who is mostly there as filler but helps defeat healers and can actually stop a Sheena in her tracks.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 22, 2017, 06:30:11 AM
I also finished off the Tenth Stratum Infantry Quest this morning and have 2 victories under my Tenth Stratum Fliers Quest.

Also pulled a 3 star Oboro and a whole lot of trash.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 22, 2017, 11:14:44 AM
Another live draw!  2 Green, 1 of everything else.  Some nice variety.  Hoping for a Blue Tome user.

1. 3* Gunter.  Bleh.

2. 3* Felicia.  Cute waifu, but useless for me in this game.

3. 4* Peri.  Ew.  This monstrosity instead of a Tome user. :(

4. 3* Hana.  So adorable!

5. 3* Arthur.  Dupe.

Well, that was a waste of 20 Orbs.  Maybe I can take a skill or two from Peri?  I've actually been going for the plan [member=1214]Aeolus[/member] had with increasing the *-level of the OCs.  I think that's a good idea, since all the other characters can theoretically be pulled.  So any characters I don't want could possibly be sacrificed to give the OCs some sweet skills.
Although my Anna has been ROYALLY RNG-screwed with her level-ups.  She's almost lvl 20 and her Def is 7!  >:(
Hoping her transfer to 3* will fix that.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 22, 2017, 06:16:35 PM
I have actually ended up promoting Anna and Sharena to 5*s. I could promote Alfonse, but I kind of need another flier more than I need another sword lord, so Michalis is up next for 5* promotion...then again I might end up with enough feathers to promote Alfonse as well once I send all my unneeded duplicates home.

Although what I really need is probably a good 5* Pegasus Knight since my only current lvl 40 flier is a Wyvern Knight, I plan on pulling for Minerva next banner, and Michalis is also a Wyvern Knight. So I will end up with 3 Wyvern Knights. >.>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on March 22, 2017, 11:24:04 PM
Although my Anna has been ROYALLY RNG-screwed with her level-ups.  She's almost lvl 20 and her Def is 7!  >:(

You actually can't get RNG-screwed on level ups in this game as far as I know. Anna just goes against tradition and has thief stats on an axe user. I think characters have preset stats but can get a bonus to one of their stats at random when you pull them, which will be offset by a minus to another stat. Given how this game plays at high level I imagine only pluses to attack or speed are worth anything.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 23, 2017, 12:19:06 AM
Although my Anna has been ROYALLY RNG-screwed with her level-ups.  She's almost lvl 20 and her Def is 7!  >:(

You actually can't get RNG-screwed on level ups in this game as far as I know. Anna just goes against tradition and has thief stats on an axe user. I think characters have preset stats but can get a bonus to one of their stats at random when you pull them, which will be offset by a minus to another stat. Given how this game plays at high level I imagine only pluses to attack or speed are worth anything.

It really depends on the character since somebody like Ephraim or Hector won't benefit from +Spd much due to their natural lack of it, meanwhile somebody like Setsuna lives or dies on her Atk stat since a -Atk stat takes her from one-trick pony to godawful since she can barely harm anything with -3 Atk on top of her already low Atk and counter heavy build. Basically, having the right Boon can change a particular character's match ups since everyone has good and bad match ups (yes, even Takumi has bad match ups, just ask anybody with high Atk and a Brave weapon or high Atk & Def plus Bowbreaker or Quick Riposte), just as long as their Bane doesn't cripple them.

Also, anybody received through a fixed event like the Askr brigade, the Special Battle/GHeB units, your starting defaults, or your free Draug/FCorrin will have totally natural stats. So yeah, Anna will never have not-awful Def, but +1 starring her will up all of her stats anyways (compared to that level from the previous star rating).

And yeah, every copy of a particular character of the same star level will have the same stats at the same level + or - their Boon/Bane respectfully. That's why Inherit Skill exists since Kagero has middle of the road Spd and even with Poison Dagger, her Atk alone isn't enough to reliably one round many enemies, whereas Gaius has generally better stats all around, but his Rogue Dagger kinda sucks since Dagger users aren't really all that good at taking hits, and this is where you make like Reeses and combine the Peanut Butter with the Chocolate. Likewise, if you have a bunch of 4 star Pallas around, you can drop your inferior Boon/Bane one into the Inherit Skill option and give another Flier Goad Fliers for extra coverage on an all Flier team (plus your designated Palla can benefit from it too).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 23, 2017, 03:29:57 AM
Or you can be like me and not worry about banes/boons and just be happy with whatever 4*.

Speaking of 4*s, let's see if the next pull gives me anything good. Two neutral, two red and one blue. I'm expecting one two of them will be a five star because that's how things work.

3* Oboro - I like her as a character and this only my second, so yeah, not terrible!

3* Palla - Oh come on. Atleast be a 4*!

3* Fir - Is this payback for me finally getting a 5* character I actually like?

3* Setsuna - Setsuna, the only thing you have in common with Takumi is that your clothes are kind of similar. And okay, you're both archers, but that doesn't mean anything since you can't actually damage the average enemy.

4* Lachesis - Ah well, she's new.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on March 23, 2017, 04:57:13 AM
Got 3 blue, 1 red and 1 colorless so I guess I'll spend the 20 orbs this time around.

3* Corrin F: Already have a 4* of her.
4* Corrin F: In the case the one I have got lonely I guess?
4* Subaki: Didn't have him at 4* but I just finished the flyer quest. Eh.
4* Stahl: Lots of copies today.
4* Lissa: As far as I know Rehabilitate is like the only good heal at high levels so I'll take her. Didn't have a healer above 3* anyway.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 23, 2017, 08:57:48 AM
I'm expecting one two of them will be a five star because that's how things work.

Ah, the [member=4534]Ranadiel[/member] strategy.  I like it.  It'll pay off one of these days!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 23, 2017, 03:56:52 PM
Got 20 orbs again thanks to the log-in presents and the completion of several Lunatic quests, so here we go!

One of each and an extra red. Should be interesting. I normally save the neutral ones for last, but let's shake things up and...

4* Setsuna - Setsuna, just because I'm currently rewatching Gundam 00 does not mean you're somehow relevant to my interests.

3* Stahl - Stahl, no, please don't make me hate you...

3* Fir - Damnit. That's number four...

4* Cecilia - More skill fodder, I guess...

3* Robin - No. Bad Robin. Go away.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 23, 2017, 04:01:52 PM
You just didn't believe hard enough, Tomara
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 23, 2017, 04:37:34 PM
I guess I subconsciously expected more Setsunas and Firs and got exactly that... Man, this game is tough.

BTW my number of Setsuna's is currently sitting at 7. Also: 5 Cecilias, 9 Sophias, 4 Stahls, 4 Donnels, 4 Firs 6 or 7 Virions (I lost track), 5 Pallas... and I think that's the worst of them.

BTW 2 a round of applause for my Tharja! She defeated her first L40 Hector today. It was a close one (she was only L26 at the time), but she did a good job.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 23, 2017, 06:21:01 PM
God damn it, I've run through all the characters I have that I want to train...so not I'm training Chrom (aka discount Lucina) and Merric (aka discount Julia). It will be nice to have something I want to train with Minerva (hopefully) tomorrow. Wouldn't complain about an extra Eliwood with a better bane/boon either. It will be interesting to see what I get.

I'm expecting one two of them will be a five star because that's how things work.

Ah, the Ranadiel strategy.  I like it.  It'll pay off one of these days!
Disclaimer: The Ranadiel strategy may not be for you. Side effects may include running out of character storage space, a craving for whole milk, and suddenly becoming a whale. If you accidently release Eldridge Horrors by breaking causality while employing the Ranadiel strategy, scream bloody murder as this may be a sign of the end of the world. It won't help, but it will make you feel better in the seconds before you go mad. Consult your doctor to determine if the Ranadiel strategy is right for you. *soothing music plays*
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 23, 2017, 07:29:25 PM
With all the Orbs that keep coming from all these Quests and Events, I've decided to pull again. Got another 5 star, this time its Rave-wait, fuck! I already have a 5 star Raven (I guess he's gonna be Level 40+1 now), also pulled a 4 star Lissa (so much for raising one of the freebies), a 4 star Female Corrin (another repeat of a trained freebie, at least this one gives me 4 Manaketes now, bring it April), and a 3 star Shanna and Peri ("Yay! Violence!", also two that I didn't have, after this "I better watch for arrows.").

Still no Focus Units or a fourth Armor. So fucking close, yet so far away.

Also, something, something, finished Story Mode on Lunatic, something (I may have used a Light's Blessing, but screw it, I got like 4 Quests done on that one charge and some levels for my Tenth Stratum Flier team (which is up to 5/15 victories now)).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 24, 2017, 06:03:15 AM
So beat Michalis easily on Lunatic today. As I thought only reason I had trouble before was because I was panicking due to the time limit. Used Takumi, Azura, Julia, and Sanaki for my win. But that's not what you all are here for. Instead...

New banner, new live pull (followed by however many pulls it takes to get what I want). My only goal today really is Minerva, but if I get an Eliwood with a decent Bane/Boon I would not complain. For non-focus characters, I want a Linde. Let's see if I get any of those on my first pull!

4 blue and 1 colorless....w/e.

3* Odin- Eh moonbow, I guess?
3* Est- ....I'm being punished for something?
3* Subaki- I now regret drawing more than 1
4* Gwendolyn- I don't even know her skills, but I expect they are bad
4* Jakob- You are worthless at 5*, why would I want you at 4*?

I am pretending that did not happen. So let's do a live pull!

2 red, 1 blue, 1 green, and 1 colorless. Variety at least.

3* Stahl- Meh
3* Shanna- Meh
3* Saizo- Poison strike 3!
4* Cain- You are useless but you do provide Wings of Mercy 3...
3* Nino- Already have a 4*

At least I got some decent skill fodder with my pull.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 24, 2017, 10:53:05 AM
Nice to see that even Rana-chan can have some dreary pulls.  Time for a live one myself!

2 Green, 1 of everything else.  Let's see if I can't get that Blue Tome...

1. 4* Cherche.  Nice, I was just remembering her fondly and admiring her interesting character design.  She'd be cooler if she weren't a wyvern rider (always, without exception, totally lame).

2. 3* Arthur.  I just poofed a 4* version into Skills for my Nino.  This one won't be around very long.

3. 4* Sully!  Not a Tome user, but one of my faves from Awakening.

4. 3* Tiki.  Blech.

5. 4* Wrys - Dupe.

Could have been much worse.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on March 24, 2017, 12:13:44 PM
I finished the cavalier tenth stratum quest. Much, much easier than fliers. I find cavaliers kinda broken personally, especially ones like Reinhardt who have a brave weapon. Just gotta plan out your movements right.

Also tried for Ninian again. Only 2 blue this set.

3* Shanna: Have like 5 of this lady.
3* Jagen: The original useless old guy. Also have like 5 of him.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 24, 2017, 08:53:15 PM
Nice to see that even Rana-chan can have some dreary pulls.  Time for a live one myself!
Of course I have bad pulls. Why else would I have 10 Draugs and 9 Raighs? Well I suppose I should say had since I just sent them home while I was thinking about it, but yeah I am not immune to bad draws.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 24, 2017, 10:18:09 PM
Nice to see that even Rana-chan can have some dreary pulls.  Time for a live one myself!
Of course I have bad pulls. Why else would I have 10 Draugs and 9 Raighs? Well I suppose I should say had since I just sent them home while I was thinking about it, but yeah I am not immune to bad draws.

I'll trade you 1 Bartre, 1 Raven, 1 Clarine, 1 Lissa, 1 Gunter, 2 Serras, 2 Azamas, 2 Ninos, 2 Raighs, and a Cecilia for one of those Draugs (and don't think I don't have plenty more redundant copies to throw around, I may not have been totally stuck getting the exact same unit 10 times, but what I lack in a quality of quantity, I make up for in a diverse portfolio).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 25, 2017, 04:04:09 AM
I'd give you a 4* Draug and a 3*Gwendolyn for that, but that's not how the game works, sadly :(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 25, 2017, 06:47:59 AM
[I'll trade you 1 Bartre, 1 Raven, 1 Clarine, 1 Lissa, 1 Gunter, 2 Serras, 2 Azamas, 2 Ninos, 2 Raighs, and a Cecilia for one of those Draugs (and don't think I don't have plenty more redundant copies to throw around, I may not have been totally stuck getting the exact same unit 10 times, but what I lack in a quality of quantity, I make up for in a diverse portfolio).
I would have gladly made that trade if possible because I still have 0 Bartres. And that is freaking weird to me because I think he is the only non-5* character that I have 0 copies of.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Maxximum on March 25, 2017, 03:09:49 PM
So, I had some feathers and a few useless starting characters. So I figured "Let's make something happen here"... so:
(http://i.imgur.com/m0o1zs1.png)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 25, 2017, 04:38:27 PM
Nice. Are you going to load him up with skills?

My FEH haps:
-Final got that 3* Michalis. That flyer with drag was the worst and it took me a while to find a unit that could counter it. Stupid L40 Camilla left the jackass with 1HP... I ended up training a 3* Narcian to L30. Won't be attempting the L40 one. Well, I could probably manage if I leveled up Subaki and Narcian some more, but I'm not sure I have the time/resourches or if it's even worth it.

-Just one more win to and I'll have completed the cavalry quest!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Maxximum on March 25, 2017, 04:45:29 PM
[member=33]Tomara[/member] Probably not, his current skill set is pretty decent. he has a +6Atk on initiation which stacks nicely with his +5 Atk if hp =< 50%
+4 to adjacent allies isn't bad either. I might get him a B type skill, but that's probably the extent of it.

I was going to do unlock Anna first, but needed a red 5*.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 25, 2017, 08:40:21 PM
Nice. Are you going to load him up with skills?

My FEH haps:
-Final got that 3* Michalis. That flyer with drag was the worst and it took me a while to find a unit that could counter it. Stupid L40 Camilla left the jackass with 1HP... I ended up training a 3* Narcian to L30. Won't be attempting the L40 one. Well, I could probably manage if I leveled up Subaki and Narcian some more, but I'm not sure I have the time/resourches or if it's even worth it.

-Just one more win to and I'll have completed the cavalry quest!

I'm still working on the Lunatic version myself. Klein kept getting oneshotted by the Sword Cavalier if I attacked him, and one-rounded if I didn't and opted to remain under a Spur Def. So I fed him my spare Donnel and now he's switched out Deathblow 3 for HP+ 1 (unfortunately, he couldn't inherit Drag Back which is probably Donnel's best skill), but now he can barely scratch Michalis which my Level 36 Eliwood can't one-round anymore. So now its time for me to level Eliwood up and figure out a way to not die to the other Pegasus Knight.

Also, currently 12/15 on Fliers and I'm still grinding the Cavs (I may want to replace Sully with Cain at this point since Sully can barely do any damage, even against Red units due to her bad Atk, and her only contribution is her Spur Def 2).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 25, 2017, 09:17:02 PM

I'm still working on the Lunatic version myself. Klein kept getting oneshotted by the Sword Cavalier if I attacked him, and one-rounded if I didn't and opted to remain under a Spur Def. So I fed him my spare Donnel and now he's switched out Deathblow 3 for HP+ 1 (unfortunately, he couldn't inherit Drag Back which is probably Donnel's best skill), but now he can barely scratch Michalis which my Level 36 Eliwood can't one-round anymore. So now its time for me to level Eliwood up and figure out a way to not die to the other Pegasus Knight.

Also, currently 12/15 on Fliers and I'm still grinding the Cavs (I may want to replace Sully with Cain at this point since Sully can barely do any damage, even against Red units due to her bad Atk, and her only contribution is her Spur Def 2).
As I recall my setup was to use a dancer on my archer after taking out the first flier to have my archer retreat behind my dancer (who would then deal with the cavalry...although that probably requires a blue dancer?). I then used a red mage to take out Mich and my archer to take out the other flier. I then used a green mage to take out the remaining cavalry.

Still no progress from me on the clearing level 10 missions other than infantry (which I think is at 10?)...don't plan on trying to do any of them either because I hate level 10 so much. :p
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on March 25, 2017, 10:19:07 PM
Don't know why I keep doing these live pulls like everyone else when A) I don't really play the game that much and B) Have very little history or interest in Fire Emblem and thus my comments are usually pretty boring.

But here we go anyway:

2 neutral again, but paired with two green and one red

Neutral #1: 5-star Jaffar. Well it's a 5-star, so yay!(?) Is he supposed to be a close-range neutral?

Green #1: 3-star Barst. At least he looks pretty rad.

Red: 4-star Olivia. Not such a bad pull so far, might even inspire me to dedicate some time to this game again.

Neutral #2: 4-star Lissa. Well, there goes my 3-star Lissa as my main healer. Really liking this pull.

Green #2: 3-star Frederick. Guess they can't all be winners. Should've saved those last 3 orbs knowing I wasn't gonna get much better than I already got.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 26, 2017, 07:47:39 AM
Neutral #1: 5-star Jaffar. Well it's a 5-star, so yay!(?) Is he supposed to be a close-range neutral?
He is a range 2 debuffer. He isn't particularly great at killing things on his own, but he combos pretty well with anyone. If you have a Saizo you aren't using, you can create a fairly potent Jaffar by giving Jaffar Poison Strike. It stacks with his weapon, so with Poison Strike 3 he deals 17 unresistable damage. So pair him with a dancer, and he can kill almost anything other than really high def armors in one turn. Or you can use him to weaken up high level enemies to make training a bit easier for lower leveled characters.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 26, 2017, 08:06:59 AM
Finally completed some more Lunatic and a tenth stratum quest, and now I have orbs.

Three blue, one green and one neutral. There must be a Ninian in there!

3* Beruka - Well, that was a green one, and let's be honest, a Hector on top of a Takumi and a Ninian would be too much to expect.

4* Oboro - Uh, nice follow-up to Beruka? I'm sure those two will get along great... <_<

3* Oboro - ... I'm sure Takumi, the unit from the neutral orb, will be very happy to have so many Oboros around, but...

3* Sully - Whatever.

Okay, last orb, hello Takumi!

3* Setsuna - Oh come on! You could atleast give me an archer that isn't Setsuna or Virion! A Klein would be fine too! Or a Jeorge with an attack boon!

Oh, and in case anyone's wondering how my favourite staff bot is fairing: Lucius is doing great. He's L35 and with Assault is equipped he has 40 atk, meaning he can actually help kill stuff. Plus, he learned Rehabilitate and Live to Serve 2 from a leftover Wrys. So yeah, he's a big help.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 26, 2017, 05:03:42 PM
Actually managed to beat the Grand Hero Battle this time on both difficulties! In case it helps anyone else...

Team: Lucina 5*, Effie 5*, Klein 5*, Olivia 3*

Turn 1: I had Effie tank the right side red cavalry with Klein standing right behind her. Turn 2: Klein 1HKOs one winged unit, then Lucina stands in the way so Michalis will hit her on the following turn. Turn 3: Lucina attacks Michalis, leaving him on <30 HP. Klein kills other winged unit, Olivia uses Dance so Klein can kill Michalis. Turn 4 etc.: Get Effie out of the way of the remaining spear unit, then have Klein kill at distance.

Short version: Lucina and Effie tank while Olivia helps Klein kill everything.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 26, 2017, 08:11:50 PM
Got 4 star Michalis. Klein killed the Blue Pegasus, got Danced by Olivia, wounded the Cavalier, survived the counterattack with Inherited HP +1, dropped the Cav on turn 2, got Danced by Olivia to safety, then moved Buffed Eliwood up to the front of Michalis but did not attack, countered, but did not kill Michalis on EP, finished him on turn 3, then got Danced by Olivia to safety, then Klein moved in and dropped Red Pegasus, followed by everyone retreating so that Gunter could solo the Lance Infantry under Eliwood's and Olivia's Buffs.

Having access to Inheritance makes a huge difference.


Live-a-Pull Edit: Beat the Flier x 15 Quest finally and so had the Orbs to pull again. 2 Greens and one of every other color, not bad. Got a 3 star Gaius (crap), 3 star Jagen (new guy at least), 3 star Draug (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs), 3 star Arthur (Inheritance fodder), and a 5 star Fae (that gives me full Color coverage with Manaketes, I can probably Inherit fodder one of my Adult Tikis now to boot). Still nobody from the current Focus, but its a good pull never-the-less.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on March 26, 2017, 11:22:52 PM
I'm done with all the Training Tower quest outside the stupid armor one myself. Still only have 3 armors total but even if I had 4 I don't think I'd torture myself trying to get 15 wins with those things.

Michalis Lunatic was a pain until I played around with Inheritance. x-breaker skills and gem weapons make everything die as long as you play smart.

Next goal is to try to do those Chapter 9 Lunatic Challenges I guess. No idea how I'll clear 9-5 without any deaths considering how I barely won when I went to get the win.

Pulled 2 blue characters again.

3* Shanna: How many of this lady am I going to get?
3* Corrin F: Wish I was this much of a chick magnet in real life.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 26, 2017, 11:32:38 PM
[member=99]Hathen[/member] I've only managed 9-1 on Lunatic with no deaths. Any tips for 9-2,3,4? Seems pretty damn impossible without maybe very specific units?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on March 27, 2017, 12:22:19 AM
Yeah I don't think most high level maps can be cleared with no deaths without either  specific units or lots of inheritance shenanigans. On 9-2 I guess using magic would be the way to go since there's a bunch of armors, plus a dancer so they don't get the chance to heal up. 9-3 you could probably take out the axe armor on the first turn with a red tome, but dunno how the rest of the run would go.

Also did two separate pulls. First pull had no blues so I got a 3* Wrys and said screw it.

Second pull had 3 blues but RNG didn't want to be nice to me.

3* Oboro: Seal DEF might be kinda nice.
3* Oboro: Wee.
3* Gwendolyn: Well, there's that 4th armor so I'll be sure to not bother trying the missions with 4 3* armors.
3* Beruka: "..."
4* Lissa: Rehabilitate is a nice skill at least.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 27, 2017, 06:30:28 AM
Well you guys could always cheese the requirements by using a Light's Blessing to revive everyone just before you strike the finishing blow. After all the requirement is "survive" not "don't die."
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 27, 2017, 06:31:41 AM
Oh true. I do have a lot of those lying around...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 27, 2017, 07:44:19 AM
[member=99]Hathen[/member], why did you copy my pull? That's dumb.

Well you guys could always cheese the requirements by using a Light's Blessing to revive everyone just before you strike the finishing blow. After all the requirement is "survive" not "don't die."

That's what I did for the 9-4 and 9-5 quest. I still have some in storage and I assume we'll be earning new ones in April, so I have no regrets.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 28, 2017, 06:33:58 AM
Yeah, Light's Blessings are a godsend for some of those final Lunatic tier 9 battles since they're pretty heavily rigged against you without a proper team (let alone gimmick teams like the ones they want you to use).

Also, http://www.siliconera.com/2017/03/28/fire-emblem-heroes-teases-first-special-costume-heroes-bunny-ears/

Next Focus is gonna have Bunny Azura and Chrom (was hopping for new characters instead of reskins, but then I don't have an Azura yet).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 28, 2017, 06:39:54 AM
Also, http://www.siliconera.com/2017/03/28/fire-emblem-heroes-teases-first-special-costume-heroes-bunny-ears/

Next Focus is gonna have Bunny Azura and Chrom (was hopping for new characters instead of reskins, but then I don't have an Azura yet).
Huh...I'm not sure if I am going to go for these or not. I guess I'll have to see what their skills are? My instincts are screaming at me to go for them because probably limited edition...but if it is Chrom and Azura, I can't say I am particularly interested in extra copies of them, especially if they have the same skills/stats.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 28, 2017, 11:34:09 AM
Can't wait for Pink Gold Lucina.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 28, 2017, 04:48:52 PM
Okay, so I managed lunatic 9-2 with no Light's blessings, but needed them for 3,4,5. All done now!

Oh, also, have you guys been using your Nintendo account points? Not sure whether to burn them now or sit on them.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 28, 2017, 05:06:05 PM
Kinda just sitting on mine.  I keep thinking "I could get a discount on something!"  But then I forget to ever look at the eshop and see what's up.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 28, 2017, 06:29:20 PM
So I took another look at the teaser image, and I'm betting that the female is not Azura. Looking at it some more, I am betting it is a dragon. Based on hair probably either Ninian or Nowi. Probably Ninian. My reasoning? The way the Egg is being held reminds me of Dragonstones, so I am betting the female is going to use an easter egg as a dragonstone (to turn into a bunny?).

Meanwhile, Chrom will probably use a carrot as his sword to make him even less effective because the universe refuses to let anything good happen to Chrom.

Edit: Accidental leak from NoA possibly reveals that the Easter characters are Chrom, Lucina, Xander, and Camilla. If this turns out to be true, going to be slightly disappointed because fucking three reds. That is a pain in the rear to draw for. Oh well, not like I have enough Eldigans yet. >.>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 28, 2017, 07:59:19 PM
Edit: Accidental leak from NoA possibly reveals that the Easter characters are Chrom, Lucina, Xander, and Camilla. If this turns out to be true, going to be slightly disappointed because fucking three reds. That is a pain in the rear to draw for. Oh well, not like I have enough Eldigans yet. >.>

Last time I doubted a leak, I got owned hard. Funny that they're making Xander available now when Vanilla Xander isn't and won't be for another two months.

That said, I have no idea who the female silhouette belongs to since only Azura has that much hair (I guess Camilla if I'm being generous with proportions).


Anyways, 8/15 for Cavs, but raising Armors is hard (anything past 20 and I'm brickwalling, even with Olivia support, maybe if Draug didn't suck and I didn't have to field two of him).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 28, 2017, 08:18:18 PM
Is there likely to be another Focus alongside Easter? I'm not interested in those leaked characters, but am contemplating having another go at Ninian...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 28, 2017, 08:28:02 PM
Is there likely to be another Focus alongside Easter? I'm not interested in those leaked characters, but am contemplating having another go at Ninian...
If the leak is true and there are four alternate costumes, then I am thinking no. If it had just been two then I would consider it a maybe. I mean there will of course be the GHB banner in a week, but I expect there to be no new characters until the Easter banner is over.

Edit: Also saw that there is a leak about a Christmas Robin (https://www.spriters-resource.com/mobile/fireemblemheroes/sheet/87976/) and Tharja (https://www.spriters-resource.com/mobile/fireemblemheroes/sheet/87977/). Not sure how long this leak has been out, but I like the Christmas Tharja more than I figured I would. Just 8 months till they are live?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 28, 2017, 11:15:20 PM
Is there likely to be another Focus alongside Easter? I'm not interested in those leaked characters, but am contemplating having another go at Ninian...
If the leak is true and there are four alternate costumes, then I am thinking no. If it had just been two then I would consider it a maybe. I mean there will of course be the GHB banner in a week, but I expect there to be no new characters until the Easter banner is over.

Edit: Also saw that there is a leak about a Christmas Robin (https://www.spriters-resource.com/mobile/fireemblemheroes/sheet/87976/) and Tharja (https://www.spriters-resource.com/mobile/fireemblemheroes/sheet/87977/). Not sure how long this leak has been out, but I like the Christmas Tharja more than I figured I would. Just 8 months till they are live?

Liking Robin's Christmas Tree Sword (and the Mittens reminds me of Ys Origin's Yunica).


Also, http://gematsu.com/2017/03/fire-emblem-heroes-adds-spring-festival-heroes-chrom-lucina-xander-camilla

Confirmed.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 28, 2017, 11:28:37 PM
I noticed in that video their unit types have changed. Xander is Blue Lance and Lucina is Blue Tome, it looked like. Didn't catch Chrom or Camila's and can't be bothered to rewatch. :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 29, 2017, 03:04:57 AM
I will never be able to take Xander seriously again.

Which isn't saying much, considering Fates' shitty writing that more or less gave him a split personality, but still... I will never be able to take Xander seriously again.

Also, is it me or is Camilla wearing slightly more clothes than usual despite being dressed like a sexy bunny girl?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 29, 2017, 03:06:00 AM
I noticed in that video their unit types have changed. Xander is Blue Lance and Lucina is Blue Tome, it looked like. Didn't catch Chrom or Camila's and can't be bothered to rewatch. :P

Chrom is going to be a Green Axe and Camilla is a Green Tome (which is actually interesting in that she will be the first Flier that can attack from range and with Magic Damage versus Physical).

In other words, it's actually worth pulling for for me (if I can land one of them *looks at the FE7 Focus and grumbles*).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 29, 2017, 05:08:40 AM
I'd rather have a regular Lucina since basically all my 5* units are mages, two of them blue, but knowing my luck Lucina will be the one I get. She does looks cute though.

In other news, my Lucius just hit L40, then he basically confessed he has anxiety attacks and told me he'd understand if I hated him. Holy shit?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 29, 2017, 06:45:01 AM
Hmm wish it had been a 1-1-2 split on colors, but I guess 2-2 on colors is better than the 1-3 split I was expecting. Going to be interesting to see how good they are. Camilla as a flying mage should add some diversity (although I wish she was a color other than green since all my current trained fliers are already green).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 29, 2017, 07:38:27 PM
Hmm wish it had been a 1-1-2 split on colors, but I guess 2-2 on colors is better than the 1-3 split I was expecting. Going to be interesting to see how good they are. Camilla as a flying mage should add some diversity (although I wish she was a color other than green since all my current trained fliers are already green).

There's actually not as many Green Units as there are for other colors, and Red does need a break in the face of all these Sword Lords/heavy games. But yeah, Green is not wanting for Fliers.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 29, 2017, 07:58:10 PM
*sigh* Today was a lot of wasted stamina. I've been working on Leo, and he SUCKS. I don't even know what it is about him that makes him so worthless, but I have seen him ORed by greens so many times today it is just ridiculous. I feel like I need to check him to make sure he isn't equipped with a skill that inverts triangle advantage (but only for your strong color since blus still murder him). >.>

There's actually not as many Green Units as there are for other colors, and Red does need a break in the face of all these Sword Lords/heavy games. But yeah, Green is not wanting for Fliers.
Wish they had made her red. We need more red fliers and dragon rider=fire mage makes perfect sense to me. Oh well. I suppose it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. Eventually my flier roster will have something other than green...probably.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 30, 2017, 04:05:39 AM
Alright! New focus and 20 orbs to spend! This is going to be awesome :D

So, let's see... One normal Lucina, one spring Xander, one Hector en two Takumi. Yep, this is going to be perfect!

3* Stahl - ...

3* Gwendolyn - ...

5* Spring Camilla - !!!

3* Niles - An archer that's isn't Virion or Setsuna! Amazing!

3* Niles - ... I'm not going to steal his spotlight and make a dirty joke...

Far from bad! I'm pretty happy. It's just that... all my 5* are mages of some sort. I can't make a proper team out of that...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 30, 2017, 06:35:54 AM
Went through the paralogue...and I'm really not sure I want all these characters. Just looking at their costumes feels painful (well Lucina look alright?). >.> Oh well time for the draw. Only going to do a full draw if there is three or more green/blue though. Looking for any of the focus or Linde.

3 blue, 1 red, 1 colorless...eh fine

4* Eirika- Eh Pivot is good for transferring
3* Clarine- Healer, so worthless
4* Florina- I don't think she has any good skills?
3* Robin- Have you
4* Gwendolyn- Didn't I see you a week ago?

Meh draw.

Edit: Oh hi Festive Xander...you look ridiculous. Oh well, guess I don't have 5* cavalry lance so he at least fits a niche I was missing?

Far from bad! I'm pretty happy. It's just that... all my 5* are mages of some sort. I can't make a proper team out of that...
Sure you can, my defense team consists of three mages of different colors and a dancer. Also does wonders whenever I need a level 40 and have no idea of what to expect in the level.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 30, 2017, 06:53:04 AM
Sure you can, my defense team consists of three mages of different colors and a dancer. Also does wonders whenever I need a level 40 and have no idea of what to expect in the level.

That... might work. But should I take both Reinhardt and Nowi? And would a dancer work well with Spring Camilla anyway? And what to pick for red... either my 4* Tharja or 4* Sophia, I guess.

Nowi, Tharja, and Camilla. Three characters I dislike. Yay...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 30, 2017, 10:53:30 AM
5* Spring Camilla - !!!

Her outfit is the most absurd thing I have seen in this game.  Kagero's pretty bad, but Spring Camilla is a whole new level of pornographic.

Anyways, here comes another live pull!  2 Blue, 1 Red, 2 Null.  Ready for that Blue Tome!

1. 3* Florina.  She's shy.

Next one will be Blue Tome! Here goes...

2. 4* Jagen. Literally the opposite of a Tome user.

3. 3* Eliwood.  Already have 4*.

4. 3* Niles.  He can hang out with your two, [member=33]Tomara[/member] , and do.... uh... whatever 3 Niles would do.

5. 3* Matthew.

Terrible pull.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 30, 2017, 11:53:11 AM
5* Spring Camilla - !!!

Her outfit is the most absurd thing I have seen in this game.  Kagero's pretty bad, but Spring Camilla is a whole new level of pornographic.

I take it you haven't seen damaged Nowi yet? There was not much clothing to be damaged, but somehow, they managed...

I'm pretty sure I'm going to jail now.

Anyway, I've been training Spring Camilla so she can be part of the 'We don't know how clothes work' team. Having a flying mage is actually a lot of fun. I just wish it was a different character...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 30, 2017, 11:59:21 AM
I don't even want that mental image, but now there it is, thank you, [member=33]Tomara[/member] .    >:(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on March 30, 2017, 04:50:04 PM
I think I'm going to pass on pulling from Spring festival, purely for aesthetic reasons.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Frostillicus on March 30, 2017, 05:06:31 PM
Do you guys wear your purity rings and wedding bands on the same finger?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on March 30, 2017, 05:19:26 PM
Do you guys wear your purity rings and wedding bands on the same finger?

ROFL

Look man, it's not that I don't understand the appeal of tatas (they're great).  I just find it inconvenient to be sexually excited unexpectedly and in public.

Loli appeal, on the other hand, is something I will never understand.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Frostillicus on March 30, 2017, 05:27:44 PM
I got you, brother. There's definitely a time and place for everything. Just couldn't help teasing you guys.

But yeah, pedo loli shit is straight up disturbing. One of Sophie's costume in Graces f had the word in it, and that made it unsettling alone.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 30, 2017, 06:50:06 PM
That... might work. But should I take both Reinhardt and Nowi? And would a dancer work well with Spring Camilla anyway? And what to pick for red... either my 4* Tharja or 4* Sophia, I guess.

Nowi, Tharja, and Camilla. Three characters I dislike. Yay...
I would think Reinhardt might fit better, but this team does sound like it is going to be mixed a bit. A dancer can work with Spring Camilla, but not all the time. I'd use the dancer to extend Camilla's range and then try to have everyone else catch up.

Her outfit is the most absurd thing I have seen in this game.  Kagero's pretty bad, but Spring Camilla is a whole new level of pornographic.
To be fair, she does have more clothing on her thighs than normal Camilla. >.>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on March 31, 2017, 02:31:07 AM
This little discussion got me thinking: few of the characters currently available wear cool clothes. There are so many boob plates, bare legged riders... It's distracting, because all I can think is: Man, that's uncomfortable!

It's not that I want everything to be realistic, people can wear pink armour for all I care, but atleast actually wear armour. I love Effie's colour scheme and pretty hair, but she's missing some essential pieces.

(Some of my favourite characters in FEH right now are Oboro, Jeorge and Lon'qu because their outfits are cool. Sharena and Anna actually got close, but then they forgot to wear pants.)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on March 31, 2017, 06:21:05 AM
Totally fucked up a pull today (forgot to actually cash in the daily Orb quest so I pulled on 19 Orbs) and such only got a 4 star Jorge (I'd actually be happy about this one if I hadn't fucked up), a couple of Fredericks to feed someone Wings of Mercy 3 to, and a garbage Gaius.

Also, raising Armors still sucks. News at 11.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on March 31, 2017, 06:44:24 AM
This little discussion got me thinking: few of the characters currently available wear cool clothes. There are so many boob plates, bare legged riders... It's distracting, because all I can think is: Man, that's uncomfortable!

It's not that I want everything to be realistic, people can wear pink armour for all I care, but atleast actually wear armour. I love Effie's colour scheme and pretty hair, but she's missing some essential pieces.

(Some of my favourite characters in FEH right now are Oboro, Jeorge and Lon'qu because their outfits are cool. Sharena and Anna actually got close, but then they forgot to wear pants.)
Well part of that is just that there are a lot of Awakening and Fates characters, and well that was the design style (or fetish) of the character designer for that game. I mean sure earlier characters have stuff like Caeda in a mini-skirt and almost no armor, but the earlier characters also have stuff like Minerva in full-plate with no skin showing beneath the neck. As we get more early characters, we'll hopefully get more characters in sensible outfits?

My personal favorite unit design wise is probably Julia. I dunno, I just really like her dress even if mage attire is not really practical on a battlefield.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on March 31, 2017, 09:48:16 AM
Doing a Spring draw to kill some time before heading out to Anime Boston. Here goes nothing.

3 Red, 2 Blue

Red 1: 3* Raigh - okay, I already don't like him for the non sequitur in his intro text.

Red 2: 3* Eliwood - Well this isn't off to a good start.

Red 3: 4* Seliph - Okay, but I'm imagining made useless by my 5* Lucina

Blue 1: 3* Donnel - *sigh*

Blue 2: 3* Subaki - Guess I wasn't kidding when I said here goes nothing.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on April 01, 2017, 12:28:37 AM
Camilla seems like the winning draw this time around, doubt we're going to get another 2-range flyer anytime soon.

Draw time.

4* Cherche: Only had her at 3* so I guess I'll take it.
4* Palla: Guess I'm trying to rival Tomara with her Palla collection.
3* Hana: I guess I could stick Life or Death on Reinhardy since he dies in one hit anyway.
4* Azama: At least he's new. I guess he'd be pretty useful if you inherit a decent heal onto him?
3* Oboro: I too can have a harem waiting for Takumi.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 01, 2017, 01:24:51 AM
Pulled a 4 star Selena to bump up the Rarity Rate counter for the next actual pull set (effectively completing my previous pull at -2 Orbs), but more importantly, I've finished March's set of Quests (and it only cost me 2 Light's Blessings; ugh). Now to grind up those 15 wins with an all Armor team (uuuugggghhhh).

Also, word on the street is that Navarre's GHeB Focus will offer Caeda, Sophia, Effie again, and Kagero.

And the next Voting Gauntlet sounds to be between Fliers with Team Pegasus being repped by Hinoka, Cordelia, Palla and Subaki; while Team Wyvern is getting repped by Camilla, Cherche, Minerva and Beruka. Of the eight, Camilla and Cordelia will have the best odds since both are from recent 3DS games and were among the most popular from them on top of having high end Meta applications and being Uncommon pulls rather than Rare. Cherche, Hinoka and Minerva also have legs, but they're running on either being from the 3DS era or having high Meta and two of them are Rare pulls only. Palla might be a Dark Pegasus Horse, but her Meta is weak beyond being the less sucky of the two Red Fliers, and frankly, Beruka and Subaki don't even have a prayer.

I'd bet that first round will eliminate Subaki, Beruka, Palla and Cherche or Minerva; with the other and Hinoka getting eliminated on round two and then Cordelia fights hard but gets eliminated against Camilla who wins it all.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 01, 2017, 07:32:11 AM
I'm thinking I am going to back Hinoka at the start. Got a copy of her during my Spring Banner pulls, so I can do the whole level 1 character trick with her. Might move to Camilla after Hinoka eventually assuming Spring Camilla gets the bonus just like regular Camilla.

4* Palla: Guess I'm trying to rival Tomara with her Palla collection.
Eh could be worse. Palla provides Moonbow the sort of default damage booster.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 01, 2017, 05:17:57 PM
The good news is that I've gotten the Lunatic March Armor and the Cavalier Training Tower quests done.

The bad news is that, if Ursula's GHeB has taught me anything, its that Atk is everything and not having enough of it is a waste of time and resources.

Even if I got all four of my Armors to level 40, it wouldn't matter since everything kites them and they can't damage shit without Gwendy's Armor buff. Inheritance can't even help because their SP well has dried up and their stats and skills are shit (4 star Level 36 Gwendolyn has 35 Atk while most generics will sport about 30+ Def at Tenth Stratum, before their broken skill sets come into play; for reference, Level 40 4 star Fir has 36 Atk and a Special that's actually worth a damn; Draug's Atk is straight up worse, before factoring in Brave Sword's debuffs). Even if I got them the extra four levels, it wouldn't change much since their top Atk ratings aren't any better.


Also, haven't seen anyone mention this, but I suspect that Springtime Xander's grinding+ ability is for Shards/Crystals instead of Badges like the description implies.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 01, 2017, 05:34:10 PM
Also, haven't seen anyone mention this, but I suspect that Springtime Xander's grinding+ ability is for Shards/Crystals instead of Badges like the description implies.
O.o Why? Live for Honor has a badge on its icon. I mean I haven't actually started training Spring Xander, so I haven't experimented with it, but Spring Camilla is the one that seems more likely to have the incorrect description since Live for Bounty has a Crystal on its icon. Plus I've read that the Japanese text for Bounty says crystal or shard instead of badge with the English translation just being not matching (not that I can confirm that myself).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on April 01, 2017, 05:42:22 PM
So I've spent nearly a week levelling a Cavalier Team up to 40 for the Training Tower quest. Problem is, now that I'm up to Tenth Stratum... they suck. I can barely win a single battle with them. Feel like I wasted so much time and effort... Team is: Abel, Peri, Eliwood, Frederick. They were the only cavaliers I had, so I just ran with them. Mistake...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 01, 2017, 06:48:23 PM
So I've spent nearly a week levelling a Cavalier Team up to 40 for the Training Tower quest. Problem is, now that I'm up to Tenth Stratum... they suck. I can barely win a single battle with them. Feel like I wasted so much time and effort... Team is: Abel, Peri, Eliwood, Frederick. They were the only cavaliers I had, so I just ran with them. Mistake...
Sorry to hear that didn't work out for you. A shame you didn't have a few more characters with the cavalry specific buff lines as they could probably help a lot. I'm just going to return to my standard comment though of Tenth Stratum sucks.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on April 01, 2017, 07:17:30 PM
Yepppp. Oh well. Maybe one of them will come in handy in the future for something else.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 01, 2017, 08:09:47 PM
Well if you upgrade Eliwood to 5*, he is pretty decent for cavalry teams since he has a decent Prf weapon (one of only two Prf weapons wielded by cavalry?) and comes with one of the four cavalry skills out of the box. His Atk and Spd are respectable. He probably could use a damage skill, and his only major flaw is low def, but he's meant to be a Paladin style cavalry unit (aka strong res).

I'm not familiar with stat and skill spreads on your other three.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on April 02, 2017, 01:00:38 AM
My Cavalier run was mostly carried by Reinhardt one-rounding almost everything. Gunter was pretty helpful too.

From what I've heard, the only way most people do Armor quest is if they have 5* Effie around. She can solo entire maps apparently.

Live pull time.

1 of every color and 2 colorless.

4* Corrin M: Already got a 5*, but Dragon Fang might be kinda useful I guess.
3* Shanna: Not even good for skills.
5* Spring Exalt Chrom: Wee. Would've preferred Camilla, and unfortunately I just checked and I rolled -ATK with +DEF. A 5*'s a 5* though.
3* Gaius: Gotta balance that good roll out I guess.
4* Lachesis: Staffbot therefore useless. New though.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 02, 2017, 02:51:54 AM
My Cavalier run was mostly carried by Reinhardt one-rounding almost everything. Gunter was pretty helpful too.

From what I've heard, the only way most people do Armor quest is if they have 5* Effie around. She can solo entire maps apparently.

Live pull time.

1 of every color and 2 colorless.

4* Corrin M: Already got a 5*, but Dragon Fang might be kinda useful I guess.
3* Shanna: Not even good for skills.
5* Spring Exalt Chrom: Wee. Would've preferred Camilla, and unfortunately I just checked and I rolled -ATK with +DEF. A 5*'s a 5* though.
3* Gaius: Gotta balance that good roll out I guess.
4* Lachesis: Staffbot therefore useless. New though.

Nice thing about Chrom is that he makes grinding up Axe users easier.

And yeah, Effie and Hector are the only good Armors right now since they both have monstrous stats and solid skill sets that make them top tier. Meanwhile Draug is considered to be the worst Sword user in the game and Gwendolyn is really mediocre too.


So I've spent nearly a week levelling a Cavalier Team up to 40 for the Training Tower quest. Problem is, now that I'm up to Tenth Stratum... they suck. I can barely win a single battle with them. Feel like I wasted so much time and effort... Team is: Abel, Peri, Eliwood, Frederick. They were the only cavaliers I had, so I just ran with them. Mistake...

Should've raised a Tome using Cav like Ursula or Cecilia to offer some kind of balance. Gunter is also considered really good since he can provide the +6/6 Atk/Spd buff to Cav units. Meanwhile, Peri pretty bad and IDK about Abel's abilities but I hear he's decent at least.


Also, haven't seen anyone mention this, but I suspect that Springtime Xander's grinding+ ability is for Shards/Crystals instead of Badges like the description implies.
O.o Why? Live for Honor has a badge on its icon. I mean I haven't actually started training Spring Xander, so I haven't experimented with it, but Spring Camilla is the one that seems more likely to have the incorrect description since Live for Bounty has a Crystal on its icon. Plus I've read that the Japanese text for Bounty says crystal or shard instead of badge with the English translation just being not matching (not that I can confirm that myself).

Yep. Meant Camilla. IDK how I could've possibly gotten them mixed up. :p
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 02, 2017, 03:17:16 AM
Spring Camilla's skill definitely affects shards/crystals. Just got 2250 universal crystals from the Tenth Stratum.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 02, 2017, 09:20:31 AM

And yeah, Effie and Hector are the only good Armors right now since they both have monstrous stats and solid skill sets that make them top tier. Meanwhile Draug is considered to be the worst Sword user in the game and Gwendolyn is really mediocre too.
You forgot about Sheena. Not that I blame you since she is just as mediocre as Gwen. Half the time I forget she is an armor. The other half I forget she is an axe user. >.>

Good news for armors is that in 2.5 weeks we'll be getting Zephiel who has decent datamined stats (a shame he doesn't get Distant Counter though since his weapon legendary weapon is 1-2...unlike Hector's). So we'll have a decent armor for each weapon type. Well each weapon type that there are a lot of armors of. Some day I'm sure we'll get a magic armor (probably Arvis) and a bow armor, but I'm not sure there have ever been any healing, dragonstone, or dagger armors though. Those could be fun though. XP
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 02, 2017, 09:52:58 AM

And yeah, Effie and Hector are the only good Armors right now since they both have monstrous stats and solid skill sets that make them top tier. Meanwhile Draug is considered to be the worst Sword user in the game and Gwendolyn is really mediocre too.
You forgot about Sheena. Not that I blame you since she is just as mediocre as Gwen. Half the time I forget she is an armor. The other half I forget she is an axe user. >.>

Good news for armors is that in 2.5 weeks we'll be getting Zephiel who has decent datamined stats (a shame he doesn't get Distant Counter though since his weapon legendary weapon is 1-2...unlike Hector's). So we'll have a decent armor for each weapon type. Well each weapon type that there are a lot of armors of. Some day I'm sure we'll get a magic armor (probably Arvis) and a bow armor, but I'm not sure there have ever been any healing, dragonstone, or dagger armors though. Those could be fun though. XP

Spring Festival alone has blown away any preconceived notions on weapon limitations.

As for Zephiel, the same problem applies now as it did back when March's quests leaked. He's not available until long after the fact. Zephiel wouldn't do me any good, even if I obtained him right now as he'd be Level 1.

Also, I didn't forget about Sheena, as while she's likely a more solid Armor unit than Gwendy, her buff is the Def/Res +6/6 one and her raw stats still don't compete with Hector's/Effie's. She's not the game changer that one really needs to do the Tenth Tier quest.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 02, 2017, 05:20:06 PM
I feel like we will probably never have a dragonstone armor user. I just can't see them giving dragonstones to non-dragons and at least so far they seem to be keeping movement type with variants (no guarantee that will hold though). Healing or dagger is not entirely impossible, although would be kind of hilarious to me.

And I didn't mean so much that Zephiel would be helpful in the current quests. I was more of just commenting that we'll have another good armor fairly soon (for whenever they decide to do another 4 armor quest, because you know that this is not going to be the last one).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 02, 2017, 10:16:51 PM
I feel like we will probably never have a dragonstone armor user. I just can't see them giving dragonstones to non-dragons and at least so far they seem to be keeping movement type with variants (no guarantee that will hold though). Healing or dagger is not entirely impossible, although would be kind of hilarious to me.

And I didn't mean so much that Zephiel would be helpful in the current quests. I was more of just commenting that we'll have another good armor fairly soon (for whenever they decide to do another 4 armor quest, because you know that this is not going to be the last one).

I'm just glad they're going with 4 Cavs for this month's 4 something quest (also that they finally decided to do away with unlocking difficulty tiers for the monthly quests, for the best after March's 'need at least one Armor to get past Normal' bullshit).

As for Dragon whatevers, there's only a limited number of possible Dragonstone units and most of them fall into the archetype of 'can use Dragonstones'. The available Dragonstone characters in the series are: Both Tikis, Bantu, Fae, Nils, Ninian, Myrrh, Ena, Nasir, Kurthnaga, Gareth, Nagi, Nowi, Nah, the Corrins and the Kanas (and maybe the Morgans or Female Robin (Male Robin's seasonal alt seems to involve a Christmas Tree Lance and I doubt we're getting multiple seasonal repeats for anyone)), so I doubt that we're gonna see too many variants beyond maybe a Wyvern Adult Tiki or something involving the Laguz.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 03, 2017, 03:52:04 AM
Finally, another 20 orbs... I could try to snag myself a pegasus knight, but that's kind of broring. Spring Festival it is.

3 red and 2 blue. That's... a little disappointing. No, wait. Spring Lucina, regular Lucina, some other 5* sword user that isn't shit, Ninian and... I dunno, Leo? I don't have one yet.

Here we go!

3* Henry - Yeah. No. ... And oh my god, why didn't I notice sooner? His legs are like toothpicks! It's scary!

4* Olivia - Actually, I don't mind this at all!

4* Cain - Well, atleast he got skills or something. Maybe.

3* Donnel - Great. Another pothead.

The final pull, my phone slowed down and it looked kind of dramatic, so I thought something special was going to happen. It was in fact...

3* Odin - But he's new so it's okay.

The disappointment fun never ends :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 03, 2017, 06:45:59 AM
Whelp this game has managed to make me hate Lilina. Her entering battle quote is something along the lines of "The magic is inside," which makes me cringe every time I hear it.

As for Dragon whatevers, there's only a limited number of possible Dragonstone units and most of them fall into the archetype of 'can use Dragonstones'. The available Dragonstone characters in the series are: Both Tikis, Bantu, Fae, Nils, Ninian, Myrrh, Ena, Nasir, Kurthnaga, Gareth, Nagi, Nowi, Nah, the Corrins and the Kanas (and maybe the Morgans or Female Robin (Male Robin's seasonal alt seems to involve a Christmas Tree Lance and I doubt we're getting multiple seasonal repeats for anyone)), so I doubt that we're gonna see too many variants beyond maybe a Wyvern Adult Tiki or something involving the Laguz.
Well you are forgetting the evil dragons in the series that have human forms like Idenn...not that I expect her to get a variant (or even really normal release) anytime soon.

As for multiple seasonal variants, I fully expect we'll see a second Lucina seasonal variant at some point. Because they love Lucina.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on April 03, 2017, 10:22:25 AM
3* Donnel - Great. Another pothead.

LOL!  Can't believe this is the first time I've seen that joke.

My adventures with FE Heroes has been entirely revolving around The Askr Trio.  I have Anna up to 4* now, and Alfonse and Sharena are just about ready to hit that mark themselves.  Once they do, though, I'll only be able to make one of them a 5*.  I'm thinking Sharena, probably.
However, I've managed to fill in skill gaps on both Alphonse and Anna, but not Sharena yet.  She needs an Attack skill and a B skill, and the only unit I have that would give her both is Shanna.  Unfortunately, Shanna's Attack skill ads her Res to her damage, and Sharena's Res is pretty bad right now.

Either way, this makes new pulls more fun because anyone could have the skill combo I'm looking for to beef Sharena up!  So let's do a pull now!  The question is: what Focus to use?  Pegasus Knights are the coolest, but will they give Sharena good skills?  Wyvern Riders are lame.  And Spring Festival is dumb as heck and I don't want to risk getting Spring Camilla.  Grr.  I think I'll just use RNG and see what happens.  The RNG says: Pegasus Knights Focus!

Here we go, 2 Blue, 2 Red, 1 Null.

1. 3* Virion.  *sigh*

2. 3* Shanna.  Ok then.  I guess I can just give Sharena her skills now.

3. 4* Lilina.  Another dupe, but maybe I can use some skills?

4. 3* Fir.  Cute.  New.

Last one, blue.  Blue Tome, finally?

5. 3* Robin.  Well, there it is!  Never knew I would get such a dramatic scene for a 3*, but I can easily level him up into a usable Blue Tome user.  Very cool!

Not a great draw, but I did get two very usable units from it.

Finally, a random question: when you increase a character's Rarity, their stats reset, but they keep any unused SP they have, yes?  I assume so, but was just looking for confirmation.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on April 03, 2017, 10:51:13 AM
They keep their SP and their boon/bane stats, and the former is more important than ever because of how expensive inheritance is and how little SP you get at the level cap. With the latter if you're the picky type with a favorite character you might opt to upgrade a low tier of that character that you rolled a good boon/bane on even if you already have a 5* of him.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on April 03, 2017, 11:01:30 AM
Thanks, [member=99]Hathen[/member]
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 03, 2017, 01:04:18 PM
3 star Hana (the 3rd).

3 star Sully (the 3rd).

3 star Bartre (the 4th).

3 star Cecilia (the 4th).

3 star Gordon (the 3rd).

Pulling nothing but trash.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 03, 2017, 05:06:06 PM
Hmm I really don't NEED anything right now, but doing live pulls is fun? So I guess I'll do one on the pegasus banner? Hopes are Linde and lobster head.

3 colorless....fuck no. So just the blue.

3* Gwen,

Another draw and 2 colorless. Fuck no again. I'll just grab the red and blue and call it a day. >.>

3* Raigh

4* Abel

Eh, I knew this was a bad idea, but w/e. You all need to see my occasional bad luck.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 04, 2017, 06:52:02 AM
Narrator voice: what Ranadiel didn't realise, is that he just threw away a Kagero and a Takumi.

Anyway, I;m having a bit of trouble with 4* Navarre. I don't have enough high def units to really deal with those ranged attackers. Nowi's nice (especially now that she has vantage), sure, but she doesn't do enough damage to kill them swiftly.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 04, 2017, 10:36:47 AM
Narrator voice: what Ranadiel didn't realise, is that he just threw away a Kagero and a Takumi.

Anyway, I;m having a bit of trouble with 4* Navarre. I don't have enough high def units to really deal with those ranged attackers. Nowi's nice (especially now that she has vantage), sure, but she doesn't do enough damage to kill them swiftly.

Do you have a Kagero? She counterkills them easily enough with some healing support (though I may have deleted the second one with my Mr. Klein instead). She's also got effective damage over everyone since they're all Infantry (although Navarre's a goddamn sponge at 57 HP).

Also, jobbed Navarre Lunatic with a team of Klein, Sanaki, Kagero and Cordelia (and I didn't even need Cody). Now to go for the 3 star version while getting the rest of those Lunatic Quests out of the way.


Voting Gauntlet Edit: So the first round match-ups have been posted and its gonna be a bad time for Pegasus fans as only Cordelia is in a favorable match-up versus Cherche. Camilla's advantages are heavily stacked in her favor over Hinoka, Minerva's meta is better than Palla's, and Subaki's gonna get jobbed harder than Alfonse was in the previous VG Bout even in spite of going against 'Bargain Bin Solid Snake on a Wyvern' Beruka.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 04, 2017, 11:03:57 AM
Narrator voice: what Ranadiel didn't realise, is that he just threw away a Kagero and a Takumi.

Anyway, I;m having a bit of trouble with 4* Navarre. I don't have enough high def units to really deal with those ranged attackers. Nowi's nice (especially now that she has vantage), sure, but she doesn't do enough damage to kill them swiftly.

Do you have a Kagero? She counterkills them easily enough with some healing support (though I may have deleted the second one with my Mr. Klein instead). She's also got effective damage over everyone since they're all Infantry (although Navarre's a goddamn sponge at 57 HP).

Nope, I have exactly nothing fancy that could help me here. My plan right now is to put some extra skills on my L40 Oboro and use her to tank the worst of it. Drag back might be nice considering the map... My other option is, I think, leveling up my 4* male Robin and hope its good enough. Or... Maybe one of my seven million Cecilias could teach my Spring Camilla Gronnraven. With 30 def she should be a good tank as long as I keep her away from Navarre...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on April 04, 2017, 05:55:10 PM
In a surprise turn of events, this was a really easy GHB for me. First attempt on both difficulties and I won with my standard party (Lucina, Effie, Fae, Klein).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 04, 2017, 06:15:34 PM
Narrator voice: what Ranadiel didn't realise, is that he just threw away a Kagero and a Takumi.

Anyway, I;m having a bit of trouble with 4* Navarre. I don't have enough high def units to really deal with those ranged attackers. Nowi's nice (especially now that she has vantage), sure, but she doesn't do enough damage to kill them swiftly.
Little did the narrator realize that Ranadiel already had one of each, so he didn't care about throwing both of them away.

Besides, I likes Jaffar more than Kagero.

I don't know how useful my strategy for Navarre will be. I used Robin with TA to tackle the ninjas since colorless are worthless before him. My plan was to use Effie to block Navarre, but the ninjas decided to attack her first and with debuffs almost managed to kill her. But the tide turned and I finished it off by having my Eldigan run over the hammer user. Oh and Robin destroyed the healer because colorless. Fourth member was a dancer that danced to speed up killing the ninja.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 05, 2017, 07:38:21 AM
So voting gauntlet is now live. Backing Hinoka has turned into a hilarious choice. Camilla has 7x the points of Hinoka. I was fully expecting a slaughter, but I feel like even Lucina did not have this big of a lead during any of her matches. Hell, I did a single fight with Hinoka as my lead character, and I'm already ranked 12,251. Wonder who I should back during round 2 (since apparently S. Camilla does not count for the unit bonus for Camilla.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on April 05, 2017, 09:00:44 AM
I think the problem is that everyone learned is that you'll probably get more feathers if you back the winner early on (especially if you're lazy/aren't addicted and only get a handful of flags so you know you'll place bottom even on a small team). They need to incentivize players to actually back who they like instead of who they think will win.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 05, 2017, 10:40:06 PM
Narrator voice: what Ranadiel didn't realise, is that he just threw away a Kagero and a Takumi.

Anyway, I;m having a bit of trouble with 4* Navarre. I don't have enough high def units to really deal with those ranged attackers. Nowi's nice (especially now that she has vantage), sure, but she doesn't do enough damage to kill them swiftly.

Do you have a Kagero? She counterkills them easily enough with some healing support (though I may have deleted the second one with my Mr. Klein instead). She's also got effective damage over everyone since they're all Infantry (although Navarre's a goddamn sponge at 57 HP).

Nope, I have exactly nothing fancy that could help me here. My plan right now is to put some extra skills on my L40 Oboro and use her to tank the worst of it. Drag back might be nice considering the map... My other option is, I think, leveling up my 4* male Robin and hope its good enough. Or... Maybe one of my seven million Cecilias could teach my Spring Camilla Gronnraven. With 30 def she should be a good tank as long as I keep her away from Navarre...

Male Robin will do it thanks to his Tome giving type advantage versus Colorless and good Bulk. Just aggro the Eastern Dagger first and try to use the forest to get the Northern Dagger into Robin range before the Axe User cometh.


I think the problem is that everyone learned is that you'll probably get more feathers if you back the winner early on (especially if you're lazy/aren't addicted and only get a handful of flags so you know you'll place bottom even on a small team). They need to incentivize players to actually back who they like instead of who they think will win.

I suppose dumping all your Flags onto your dead horse will get you a high ranking once, but yeah, +1500 or even +1000/+500 Feathers are nothing to sneeze at. At least for picking the overall winner on the first round, you'll probably get a decent overall contribution award (on top of the extra +500 Feathers for being right), but yeah, there's no reason not to just snowball onto a clearly dominant unit.

What I find more interesting is how the other battles are playing out as Cordelia is the only Pegasus clearly winning over her Wyvern counterpart Cherche, while Minerva is currently No2 on the overall rankings and handily trouncing Palla who almost has as much support as Hinoka, and Subaki and Beruka are neck and neck for last place.


Anyways, had enough Orbs to pull again and just like the rest of today, the pull was also flaming garbage (at least my fifth Bartre and third Arthur were 4 stars this time).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 07, 2017, 04:37:41 AM
I dislike Camilla, but for some reason the game keeps giving me Camilla's, so I figured I might as well side with her and get extra feathers...

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Male Robin will do it thanks to his Tome giving type advantage versus Colorless and good Bulk. Just aggro the Eastern Dagger first and try to use the forest to get the Northern Dagger into Robin range before the Axe User cometh.

The Nothern Dagger did not want to cooperate. Ever. But I finally managed with a team of Tharja, Olivia, Oboro and Robin. Oboro borrowed some skills (Drag back and Brave Lance) from one of my many otherwise useless Donnels, Robin got Triangle Adapt 2 from that one time I got all the Severas. Robin helped, but the real star was probably Oboro, who kept everyone safe by dragging units into the range of Robin and occassionally Tharja. Olivia gets points for dancing and surviving with one HP after taking a hit.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 07, 2017, 06:36:07 AM
I dislike Camilla, but for some reason the game keeps giving me Camilla's, so I figured I might as well side with her and get extra feathers...

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Male Robin will do it thanks to his Tome giving type advantage versus Colorless and good Bulk. Just aggro the Eastern Dagger first and try to use the forest to get the Northern Dagger into Robin range before the Axe User cometh.

The Nothern Dagger did not want to cooperate. Ever. But I finally managed with a team of Tharja, Olivia, Oboro and Robin. Oboro borrowed some skills (Drag back and Brave Lance) from one of my many otherwise useless Donnels, Robin got Triangle Adapt 2 from that one time I got all the Severas. Robin helped, but the real star was probably Oboro, who kept everyone safe by dragging units into the range of Robin and occassionally Tharja. Olivia gets points for dancing and surviving with one HP after taking a hit.

Congrats on making it.


So apparently FEH thought it was a good idea to just dump Flags onto voters this time around, so I'm gonna try for the big money this round. As for the current standings, Subaki scored the biggest upset of the match by surviving Beruka and is now about to get clowned on by Minerva, meanwhile Cordelia is being introduced to a world of pain from the Camilla train.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on April 07, 2017, 06:51:59 AM
Decided to draw from Battling Navarre since the units are useful.

3 Red, 2 Colorless.

3* Hinata: Have a ton of this guy.
3* Selena: More swords, whee.
4* Ogma: Already got one at 40.
3* Clarine: I actually kinda like Clarine, but I got like 5 of her and staves suck in this game.
5* Kagero: I...wasn't expecting this. +DEF and -HP so basically like having no boon at all. At least I didn't roll -STR or SPD. Titninja's actually not who I was aiming for but I'm not going to complain, heh.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 08, 2017, 12:41:40 PM
Exactly 20 orbs. Time to pull. I think I'll try to get a Kagero since I already have the best/most interesting from a gameplay perspective the Spring focus has to offer. Here we go.

One red, two blue, two white. Good. Looks like I'll get a Takumi and a Kagero!

3* Palla - Hello, skill fodder. It's nice to meet you, again...

3* Est - Bleep off to the pegasus focus or something. You're not wanted.

3* Robin - Dude, I just raised a 4* version to L40...

Okay, time for the main event!

5* Elise - Okay, nothing wrong with a 5* mounted healer. With some skill inheritance, she'll be more than welcome when another one of those annoying cavalry quests pops up. I mean, sure, I could keep using Clarine, but Elise is as sweet as cotton candy, so...

4* Klein - Not exactly the unit I was hoping for, but more than I could reasonably expect, so... yay! Another archer I actually like!

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 08, 2017, 02:52:54 PM
5* Elise - Okay, nothing wrong with a 5* mounted healer.
Except that she is a 5* healer. :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 08, 2017, 03:11:26 PM
5* Elise - Okay, nothing wrong with a 5* mounted healer.
Except that she is a 5* healer. :P

You're just jealous I'm going to be galloping circles around the cavalry quests now that Reinhardt will have a much easier time staying alive.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 08, 2017, 10:51:44 PM
5* Elise - Okay, nothing wrong with a 5* mounted healer.
Except that she is a 5* healer. :P

You're just jealous I'm going to be galloping circles around the cavalry quests now that Reinhardt will have a much easier time staying alive.

I think what he's saying is that Healers are not all that good in a game so focused on maximizing DPS. You're gonna want to feed her either a Gunter or a Jagen to make her useful to a Cavalry team (or at least an Eliwood or an Abel for the Auras).

The problem with getting a good Cavalry team together is that you're gonna need to spend some resources to get it going. Reinhardt is a solid magical nuke, but you're gonna want some solid Red and Green coverage as well. The best Red Cav is a 5 star Eliwood since Durandal is fucking huge in this game (its Prf bonus is its baked in Deathblow 2 which lets Eliwood hit like a truck, and can be stacked with a Deathblow 3 for shenanigans) and because he also sports Ward Cavalry (Rng 1~2 +4/+4 Def/Res Aura; its a good thing), but unfortunately, he only comes at 3/4 stars (unless you pulled him during the Michalis GHeB Focus) so you're gonna want to drop a whole lot of Feathers on his ass. Eldigan is a okay substitute (Mystletainn has a Killing Edge trait baked into it, but Eldigan's Special is an AoE which takes forever to charge), but Leo is not (Gravity is a lame trait for Staffs, nevermind a Prf), while Cain's too frail and Stahl fancies himself a tank. Your top Green ally is Gunter (as Hone Cavalry is just THAT good), followed by either Frederick or Cecilia (Frederick Hammers and can Inherit Fortify Cavalry easily enough; Cecilia has Colorless/Blue Advantages and hits Res), and for right now Jack and Squat (since those three are the only Green Cavalry available; here's hoping that they either get to FE9/10 proper, or Brighton and Machyua show up for a Couples Focus or something in the near future).

And with that said, even a 4 star Klein should serve you very well (since he's running both Brave Bow and Deathblow 2/3). I know my 5 star Klein can drop Takumi's effectively enough.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 08, 2017, 11:06:58 PM

You're just jealous I'm going to be galloping circles around the cavalry quests now that Reinhardt will have a much easier time staying alive.
I am more jealous of your Nowi than I am your Elise. :P


I think what he's saying is that Healers are not all that good in a game so focused on maximizing DPS. You're gonna want to feed her either a Gunter or a Jagen to make her useful to a Cavalry team (or at least an Eliwood or an Abel for the Auras).
That is part of it, but, when I was typing my comment, I was also thinking about how (post-skill inheritance) all the healers are basically the same. Stats for them make almost no difference since none of their abilities trigger off of offensive stats and due to their 1/2 damage modifier, you really should never be sending them into battle so their defensive stats should rarely come up.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 09, 2017, 01:58:10 AM
I know that it's all about DPS, but I've been getting very few units that can effectively do that job. Lucius helps the ones that can stay around longer and it's probably thanks to him that I'm ranked in the Arena right now. If I hadn't been able to heal, it'd have been forced to sacrifice units to win, which would have affected the end score.

As for Elise, while she'll end up with similar stats as Lucius, she's a different movement type and it's good to have options. And hey, she's already being useful as Klein's training buddy.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 09, 2017, 02:32:47 AM

I think what he's saying is that Healers are not all that good in a game so focused on maximizing DPS. You're gonna want to feed her either a Gunter or a Jagen to make her useful to a Cavalry team (or at least an Eliwood or an Abel for the Auras).
That is part of it, but, when I was typing my comment, I was also thinking about how (post-skill inheritance) all the healers are basically the same. Stats for them make almost no difference since none of their abilities trigger off of offensive stats and due to their 1/2 damage modifier, you really should never be sending them into battle so their defensive stats should rarely come up.

It would be nice if Healers could at least contribute enough damage to achieve at least a chip kill because leveling them through healing alone is slow as balls, and that's one more character slot I could be sticking some 45 Atk, 35 Spd, face wrecking, shit wrecker of some color coverage instead (or at least a Dancer for shenanigans).

Also, you want a 5 star Fae?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 09, 2017, 07:20:38 AM
It would be nice if Healers could at least contribute enough damage to achieve at least a chip kill because leveling them through healing alone is slow as balls, and that's one more character slot I could be sticking some 45 Atk, 35 Spd, face wrecking, shit wrecker of some color coverage instead (or at least a Dancer for shenanigans).

Also, you want a 5 star Fae?
Hopefully someday they'll add some skill or weapon that removed the half damage thing on healers. I know that they are adding sometime soonish some new map types that are more endurance based that people assume are meant to make healers more useful...but I feel that ORKOs will still be the reigning meta I those.

And no thanks, 5* Fae was my third 5*.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 09, 2017, 09:04:23 AM
I dunno about your healers, but my perfectly average (seriously, no bane or boon) Lucius can actually damage things. 42 attack (with Assault) and 30 speed means he can atleast put a decent dent into armoured foes. And with 35 res and 42 HP (thanks to a skill I haven't bothered replacing), he doesn't have all that much to fear from units like MRobin and even Takumi. And okay, physical units that can double him are a problem, but that's what Miracle is for.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 09, 2017, 10:53:05 AM
I dunno about your healers, but my perfectly average (seriously, no bane or boon) Lucius can actually damage things. 42 attack (with Assault) and 30 speed means he can atleast put a decent dent into armoured foes. And with 35 res and 42 HP (thanks to a skill I haven't bothered replacing), he doesn't have all that much to fear from units like MRobin and even Takumi. And okay, physical units that can double him are a problem, but that's what Miracle is for.
It is part of the damage formula. For non healers the damage formula without skill modifiers is something the lines of:

(Atk-Def/Res)*WT modifier

For healers, the damage formula is: (Atk-Res)/2

So a neutral 5* Odin (one of the worst mages in the game), has 35 attack with his default weapon. Ignoring WT, Odin will deal more damage unless the target has 29 around Res. There are only around 29 units with Res that high on neutral stats. Other healers don't do much better as 44 is the highest atk that any neutral healer can get at the moment without stk up skills.

I mean you can deal chip damage with healers if you need to, and I keep a healer on my training teams, but outside of training, you will generally be better off with a damage dealer in the current meta.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 09, 2017, 11:20:29 AM
I mean you can deal chip damage with healers if you need to, and I keep a healer on my training teams, but outside of training, you will generally be better off with a damage dealer in the current meta.

If you have enough characters to fill a team with damage dealers, that's great, but if you're like me and only have glass (magic) cannons and Nowi, you need a different strategy if you want to keep everyone alive. Especially when it comes to maps that involve choke points.

And hey, even if it's just chip damage, the 5-10 (x2) my Lucius often does is good enough for mopping up whatever the others couldn't kill.

Right now, my team of Lucius, Nowi, Alphonse and Reinhardt/Spring Camilla let me rank in the arena and I generally get max feathers for defence, so while it may not be ideal, it does work :)

I might switch things up once I get Klein to L40 (and I'm considering promoting him to 5*) and can go for a more offensive team (Klein, Nowi, Reinhart and Olivia?), but right now, I'm not doing too badly for someone playing for free.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 09, 2017, 11:30:19 AM

If you have enough characters to fill a team with damage dealers, that's great, but if you're like me and only have glass (magic) cannons and Nowi, you need a different strategy if you want to keep everyone alive. Especially when it comes to maps that involve choke points.
Well that sort of loops around to the point of my original snarky comment that started this discussion on healers, which was that you would be better served with a 5* other than a healer.

Actually, since you already have two 5* healers, at this point I might recommend avoiding colorless orbs in drawings in order to avoid wasting orbs on a third 5* healer when you are in more need of damage dealers. I mean I know you want a Takumi, but I feel like you might be better off waiting for him to show up on a banner.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 09, 2017, 11:45:43 AM
Well that sort of loops around to the point of my original snarky comment that started this discussion on healers, which was that you would be better served with a 5* other than a healer.

Actually, since you already have two 5* healers, at this point I might recommend avoiding colorless orbs in drawings in order to avoid wasting orbs on a third 5* healer when you are in more need of damage dealers. I mean I know you want a Takumi, but I feel like you might be better off waiting for him to show up on a banner.

Actually, I think I might be better off avoiding blue orbs. I have a 5* Sharena, a 5* Nowi, a 5* Reinhardt and some very good 4* units as well, like a MRobin with TA2, a good Effie and other fun stuff.

With white orbs, I still have a good chance of getting things to improve the neutral units I like using. Not to mention there are some other neutral units I still want. Like, I wouldn't mind having a Sakura or something just for fun. And hey, a Kagero would be great to have. For me it's not just about having the best units, it's also about being able to make functioning teams using my favourites.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on April 09, 2017, 08:22:33 PM
I think someone might have made this comment a few pages ago, but I can't find it.

Anyway, it definitely seems more profitable for to pick the losing teams in the Voting Gauntlet and try to rank well within the individual army. I am a fairly lite player, so it might be different for people logging on every half hour, but I earned way more feather this time (through individual ranking, rather than army wins) around by picking a team I thought would lose and using all my flags each round.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 09, 2017, 09:18:58 PM
I think someone might have made this comment a few pages ago, but I can't find it.

Anyway, it definitely seems more profitable for to pick the losing teams in the Voting Gauntlet and try to rank well within the individual army. I am a fairly lite player, so it might be different for people logging on every half hour, but I earned way more feather this time (through individual ranking, rather than army wins) around by picking a team I thought would lose and using all my flags each round.

Eh. Considering that this VG gave us three instances of Quests for 1100 Flags each round (+10 for the log-in bonuses for 1110 Flags per round), it's still better to pick the winning team early since getting a good Rank in Army requires as many Flags dumped into the team as possible (I'm looking at 2100 Feathers currently for my contribution to the Causmilla, and this is of course on top of the 1500 Feathers for picking correctly out of the gate). If you had gotten all of your Flags on the first round, then it might be worth dumping on a less contested battle since many players tend to dump everything on one round in the hopes of getting the top prize (especially on the last round where there isn't any other choice). It really is a system that favors dogpiling on the obvious winner.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on April 09, 2017, 09:33:36 PM
Well, it works for me. I've won a lot more feathers this time around than during the last when I picked Lucina from round 1 and couldn't even dent the bottom of the army ranking.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on April 11, 2017, 05:51:55 AM
Well, new day and there's no more Arena Quests, so there's basically no regular way to get Orbs if they plan on keeping it that way. There's an update coming in a few days though, so maybe that'll bring new ways. Kinda sucks I probably won't get another chance at the Spring Festival draw though.

In other news with the Voting Gauntlet over I got enough feathers to 5-star Alphonse, so now I have all 3 of the main characters at 5 stars. In retrospect it probably would've been better to invest the 60k+ in different characters, but oh well.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 11, 2017, 06:13:25 AM
Well I did great in this voting gauntlet. Rank in Camilla's army for the last round was 2,770 and total rank was 9,367. I think I'll stick with the strategy of saving all my flags for the last round again next voting gauntlet.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 11, 2017, 06:23:05 AM
Well I did great in this voting gauntlet. Rank in Camilla's army for the last round was 2,770 and total rank was 9,367. I think I'll stick with the strategy of saving all my flags for the last round again next voting gauntlet.

I liked my strategy for dumping at the second round when nobody's looking since the final round typically has everyone who's been saving every single possible Flag (all 3330 of them), taking a massive Flag dump at the end (and has VG mules making sure they're getting in on every single chance to vote) and I'd rather not have to compete with that.


That said, right now I'm waiting for the maintenance to come and go since there isn't even any Arena quests for today.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 11, 2017, 09:09:15 AM
Well I did great in this voting gauntlet. Rank in Camilla's army for the last round was 2,770 and total rank was 9,367. I think I'll stick with the strategy of saving all my flags for the last round again next voting gauntlet.

4224 and a little over 10000 for me. I didn't really bother voting during the final day and it shows... Also got a bunch of flags for (barely) ranking in the Arena, and now I have more than enough to promote another character to 5*. I'm thinking Klein. He has -HP and +Res, which is not too bad, I think? +Atk would have been better, but atleast Glacies is res based. And hey, he's practically married to my Olivia and she boosts attack...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 11, 2017, 06:25:26 PM

4224 and a little over 10000 for me. I didn't really bother voting during the final day and it shows... Also got a bunch of flags for (barely) ranking in the Arena, and now I have more than enough to promote another character to 5*. I'm thinking Klein. He has -HP and +Res, which is not too bad, I think? +Atk would have been better, but atleast Glacies is res based. And hey, he's practically married to my Olivia and she boosts attack...
I barely did any voting on Saturday because I was so busy with Persona 5. >.>

That Bane and Boon seems....passable? +Spd and +Atk are generally considered the best except in some edge cases on Spd (like Effie where +Atk, -Spd is generally considered best). If you are using Glacies then that would put +Res as third best option. -HP I would consider to be okay. Just be careful because I personally am still kicking myself on promoting my Eliwood instead of waiting for a better Bane/Boon on him.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 11, 2017, 11:37:25 PM
1.2.0 is now live. The gist of the changes are the 99 Stamina limit increase (helpful, but would've been more useful back when there were story mode battles left to fight), Hero Marks (gotta collect and train them all for Feathers), Repositioning (which is genuinely useful, especially on maps like the Ryoma showdown map where before your team leader was, more often than not, completely screwed), Special Seals (a fourth passive Skill Slot, expect more shenanigans once they start becoming available), Merging Revisions (sounds like a method of making Inheritance less of an SP grind, haven't tried it yet though), and some other stuff.

One thing I'd like to nip in the bud is that if you go to the Settings menu and look at the entry beneath Inventory, there's an option that shows you which characters have however many Hero's Marks they've accumulated thus far.


Spring Focus Edit: Managed to scrounge up enough Orbs for 2 more pulls, eventually my luck's gonna turn around. First pull, 1 Blue, 4 Red, fuck.... Pulls yet another 3 star Subaki (there's a free one right fucking there), 4 star Lon'qu (well at least he's a star higher than my other Lon'qus), 3 star Eliwood (charmed I'm sure), 4 star Olivia (well, I've got a 4 Dancer team now, I just wish they weren't all Olivias), and 3 star Fir (well at least now I have someone to Heroes Mark grind, and maybe her IVs are better than my OG A-team one). All-in-all crap.

Second pull, 2 Red, 1 Blue, 1 Green, 1 Colorless, better so far. 3 star Nino (I've got like 5 or 6 of these), 5 star Spring Lucina (woot, fucking finally, something to show for this Focus), 4 star Lucius (gat damn, a former Focus pull, I seriously haven't had one till now), 5 star Cain (on the one hand, 2 fucking 5 stars on the same pull, on the other, I just got my 4 star Cain up to level 39, hopefully the IVs are good), 4 star Stahl (saves me on Feathers). That was a damn good pull.


Double Next Focus Edit: http://www.siliconera.com/2017/04/12/fire-emblem-heroes-add-alm-faye-clair-lukas-fire-emblem-echoes-april-14/
Next up is Alm and crew. I now fully expect the next one to be for Celica and crew.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on April 12, 2017, 07:56:40 AM
The 99 stamina change is really nice, means I'll have a lot less "wasted" stamina bothering my OCD when I get off work or whatever. =P

Anyway those 20 free orbs was nice of them so I'll give the Spring Festival another draw. Depending on what they do tomorrow I might be able to do another one, but we'll see.

2 Red, 2 Green, 1 Blue. Nice even spread.

3* Selena: As useless as her actual character in Conquest!
4* Tiki: Would be nice if I didn't already have one.
4* Nino: Already have her but I guess I'll check later if this one has a nice boon/bane.
3* Nino: I need a Jaffar to balance all these Ninos out, and I don't necessarily mean that in a shippy way.
4* Gwendolyn: Well, at least I have an armor that's not 2 or 3* now.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 12, 2017, 04:07:20 PM
So to the surprise of no one, looks like we are getting an Echoes banner next. To the surprise of everyone, there is no Celica in this banner. But we do get Alm. So hurray for another sword lord to take up space in my roster! I don't think I'll be drawing for the other three since I don't know anything about them...well unless they turn out to have OP abilities I guess.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 12, 2017, 06:53:55 PM
So to the surprise of no one, looks like we are getting an Echoes banner next. To the surprise of everyone, there is no Celica in this banner. But we do get Alm. So hurray for another sword lord to take up space in my roster! I don't think I'll be drawing for the other three since I don't know anything about them...well unless they turn out to have OP abilities I guess.

As I mentioned in my previous edit, Celica and a couple members from her team will probably show up in early May's primary Focus, since the late April Focus is all about Alm and key teamsters. And speaking of, expect 1 Sword Infantry with an Anti-Dragon Prf and baked in Renewal 2 (unless they go with a reference to his Levin Sword where he'll have Long Distance instead and Atk that targets Res), 1 Lance Infantry (or Armor since Lukas promotes into a Knight), 1 Lance Flier, and 1 whatever the hell they stick Faye with as she's a Villager and so far that means Lance Infantry with garbage skills (hi Donnel).


My prediction for Celica's Focus will be Celica, Booey, Mae/Sonia (so help me, if they go with Genny, I'll Mrrgrgrgr) and either Dean or New Masked Knight guy (not that Gaiden needed another Sirius, but Alm got a Catria 5.0, so there you go).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 14, 2017, 04:20:03 AM
Just played some of the new chapters. The units look interesting and I have 40 orbs, so...

One green, two red, two blue. That's a lot of potential for units I really need.

3* Gunter - No.

3* Jagen - What? You two drinking buddies or something? If so, go drink somewhere where I can't see you. I have nothing against old folks, but I really need some young people with interesting new battle skills.

3* Odin - Well, okay, I'm sure someone will want his skills...

3* Olivia - That's number five...

3* Eliwood - Do you hate me, FE Heroes? I'm pretty sure you hate me...

Well, atleast my odds increased.

Three neutral, two red. I'm going to get all the awesome archers! And someone with a Falchion! Just you watch!

4* MCorrin - Didn't have one yet, nice! But it could be better! Come on, Alm/Lucina/whatever!

3* Sophia - Okay, so who wants Dragon Gaze? Got a fresh Dragon Gaze right here, come and get it!

4* Serra - Erh... maybe she has something Elise or Lucius would like? ...

3* Wrys - Skills, yay...

Final orb! This is it! There's a 6,5% of getting a 5* and that 5* could be Takumi! Or some other archer I wouldn't mind adding to my army! Or maybe a Kagero! It'll be awesome!

3* Felicia - Fuck.

And then the app froze, because of course it did.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 14, 2017, 06:42:02 AM
Alright live draw time. Focus I am looking for is an Alm, and I am still looking for a Linde and lobsterhead as non-focuses.

....3 colorless. Why do I keep getting this junk?

4* Henry

3* Oboro and stopping.

3 red, 1 blue, and a colorless. Much better.

4* Lachesis...had to remind me how much you messed her up didn't you Heroes?
3* Est, w/e.
3* Tiki, meh
5* Alm. Well that was fast and convenient. Hurray.
3* Fir, really don't need you, but w/e.

I'll call that a good pull since I am not going to need to spend any money to get what I was looking for.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 14, 2017, 09:26:00 AM
Still can't believe they made Faye an Archer. She can't even become one in Echoes and is straight up a good choice for Cleric or Pegasus Knight.

Alm is basically a discount Marth with a confusingly described skill (localization quality seems to be slipping a bit).

Lukas is about as much of an Armor as a Lance Infantry can get without actually being an Armor, which means he's better off as Skill Inheritance fodder for a real Armor like Effie or even crap like Gwendolyn.

Clair is another Lance Pegasus with Galeforce-lite and will end up getting fed to many hungry hungry Tacos (or anybody really since Hit & Away is a B Skill).

And that's my hot take on the newbies.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 14, 2017, 09:58:07 AM
So... what's everyone's 5* collection like anyways? I've got:

Nowi (-atk, +spd) - Don't like the character and I feel dirty for using her, but she's a good unit and beggars can't be choosers.

Reinhardt (-atk, +hp) - I really wish he had a different bane, but... oh well.

Lucius (neutral) - I don't care what anyone says, I love him and skill inheritance made him an awesome healer.

Spring Camilla (+res, -hp) - Probably my luckiest catch: the most interesting and useful character from the Spring Festival and I got her from my first pull. Again, I don't like the character very much (and ugh, her character portrait is like 40% boobs), but she's great to have around thanks to her unique build.

Elise (haven't checked) - Basically Lucius, BUT ON A HORSE! And hey, she's cute, so whatever.

Shareena - Seemed like a good investment.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on April 14, 2017, 10:24:41 AM
I am ashamed of how invested I have become in [member=33]Tomara[/member] getting a Takumi.

Anyways, TWO LIVE PULLS!

1 Red, 1 Blue, 2 Green, and a Null.  Nice variety.  Here we go!

1. 4* Roy, with a cutscene.  Nice. Comes with a Silver Sword and Shove.

2. 4* Effie.  Ok, cool.  Armored.  Don't have many Armored units.

3. 3* Gordin. Fodder.

4. 4* Merric. Don't think I'll be using another Green Tome besides Nino anytime soon, but I am loving all these 4* units.

5. 3* Gunter. Fodder.

That went well!  NEXT PULL!

3 Red, 1 Green, 1 Null.  Hm.

1. 3* Lissa.  She's cute at least, I guess.

2. 4* Chrom.  Cool!  I wonder if I'll get all the Shepherds in this pull.

3. 4* Gunter.  YOU again??  4* this time is nice.

4. 4* Selpih.  Another new 4* unit.  This is awesome.

Ok, time to get me a 5* Focus New Unit!  40 Orbs, I'm practically guaranteed to get one!

5. 3* Palla.  Well, at least she's new for me.


Well, that was fun.  I got a Roy to go with my Marth!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on April 14, 2017, 10:34:13 AM
[member=33]Tomara[/member] literally just a Lucina and Jaffar
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 14, 2017, 10:41:13 AM
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I am ashamed of how invested I have become in [member=33]Tomara[/member] getting a Takumi.

Send your wishes to my crappy cell phone, that always works in anime!


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2. 4* Effie.  Ok, cool.  Armored.  Don't have many Armored units.

Effie's great, even at 4*. Thanks to Wary Fighter 3 and her massive amound of HP, she's pretty much guaranteed to survive one round (I don't think there's anything that can OHKO her). Her attack is amazing as well. Does she have 13 attack at L1? If so, you're in luck. That's a boon and she'll end up with 41 atk at L40 (43 at 5*). She gets Deathblow on top of that.


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1. 3* Lissa.  She's cute at least, I guess.

And she gets Rehabilitate at 4*, which is essential if you plan on building a good healer.

[member=33]Tomara[/member] literally just a Lucina and Jaffar

Which are both good units, I think? I mean, most of my 5*s are units that can be gotten at 4* as well and/or simply aren't all that good.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on April 14, 2017, 10:44:19 AM
Never played Gaiden so I'm not too interested in getting the new guys, I'll be saving my Orbs for now. I'm not really reading too deep into the metagaming myself, I just try to get characters I like. Though maybe I'd feel different if Reinhardt wasn't killing entire maps for me.

My 5*s are:

Roy (+DEF, -SPD): He's the first 5* I rolled and he's served me pretty well. He places low on tier lists as far as I know but later on I found him to pair nicely with Reinhardt because Roy can pretty consistently one-shot the Greens that threaten my team.

Eirika (+RES, -SPD): She's one of the best support characters in the game since she buffs both ATK and SPD, the problem is that since all my characters seem to be slow and heavy (and my luck with banes isn't helping there) she can't really synergize into my team right now.

Corrin (+DEF, -SPD): Not sure what he's good for, other than being less "die automatically to Blues" than Roy is.

Reinhardt (+RES, -DEF): My star player. Bane/Boon don't seem to matter since he dies to everything anyway. At least it isn't -ATK. Never played much of the Jugdral games but he certainly makes me want to play them more (though if I'm not mistaken he's a villain so I wouldn't get to use him there).

Spring Chrom (+DEF, -ATK): He's made training axes easier but he doesn't seem all that useful as a unit on his own. Nino seems to work better as my Green still, even at 4*.

Kagero (+DEF, -HP): She seems pretty useful given that most of the game is infantry, but I haven't played with her enough yet to know if she fits on my regular team well.

Alphonse/Sharena/Anna: I 5*'d all three of the main character with the feathers I've earned so far. Not sure what I'll spend them on next now that I'm done with them.

Haven't had much luck getting characters I'm actually aiming for. The one I wanted the most was Ninian, but that Focus wasn't very nice to me.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 14, 2017, 01:08:25 PM
I somehow knew we were going to get a 5 star comparison going about now.

Anyways, mine are:
Camilla
Ephraim
Raven
Klein
Sanaki
Raven again
Cordelia
Eliwood (whom I feathered)
Fae
Spring Lucina
Cain

No idea on their Boons/Banes.


I am ashamed of how invested I have become in [member=33]Tomara[/member] getting a Takumi.
3. 4* Gunter.  YOU again??  4* this time is nice.

5. 3* Palla.  Well, at least she's new for me.

Well, that was fun.  I got a Roy to go with my Marth!

Gunter and Palla are actually really good to build a Cav/Flier team with since they both have unit type Support skills like Hone Cavalry and Goad Fliers. That said, good Flier team support is hard to come by because half of the Flier support skills are on 5 star only units (Minerva and Hinoka with Ward and Hone Fliers respectfully). Cavalry support skills are more easily found on 4/3 star units like Eliwood, Jagen, and Gunter (with Goad Cavalry only being found on Reinhardt, but Olwen doubles up Ward Cavalry).


Also, congrats on having a game with both Marth and Roy in it (and also Chrom, whom nobody cares about).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on April 14, 2017, 01:10:57 PM
I have Marth, Ephraim, and Kagero.  Those are all my 5* units.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 14, 2017, 05:02:59 PM
So... what's everyone's 5* collection like anyways?
O.O I knew this question would come up someday. This is going to be...interesting to see reactions to my list. Advance warning, I am a whale. But you should know that by now?

So in the order they appear when sorting by rarity:

Sword
Alm- +Sp, -Def
Seliph- +Res, -Atk
Lyn- Neutral
Lyn- +Def, -Spd (to be merged)
Karel- +Atk, -HP
Eirika- +Res, -Atk
Chrom- +Atk, -Spd
Lucina- +Def, -Res
Cain- +Def, -Spd
Eldigan(x4)- +Spd, -Atk (Not wasting time figuring out B/B for the three that are to be merged)
Eliwood- +HP, -Spd (Regret not waiting for a better B/B)

R. Dragonstone
Y. Tiki- +Def, -Res

R. Tome
Lilina- +Atk, -Spd (to be merged?)
Lilina- +Res, -Def
Sanaki- +Spd, -Def
Tharja- +Res, -Spd
Leo- +HP, -Spd

Spears
Shareena- Neutral
Ephraim- +Def, -HP
Azura- +Spd, -Res
Effie- +Ark, -HP
S. Xander- Currently Level 35, and I don't remember what they were
S. Xander- +Res, -HP (to be merged)
Hinoka- +Def, -HP

B. Dragonstone
Ninian- +Def, -Spd

B. Tome
M. Robin- +HP, -Spd
S. Lucina- +Def, -Res
Reinhardt- +Res, -Def

Axe
Anna- Neutral
Hawkeye- +Res, -HP
S. Chrom- +Atk, -Spd
Hector- +Atk, -Res
Michalis- Neutral
Minerva- +HP, -Spd
Camilla- +Atk, -Res

G. Dragon
Fae- +Res, -HP

G. Tome
Merric- -Def, +Res
Julia- +Def, -Spd(to be merged)
Julia- +Spd, -Def
S. Camilla- +Def, -Res

Bow
Takumi- +Def, -Spd

Dagger
Jaffar- +HP, -Res
Jakob- +Def, -Res
Kagero- +HP, -Def

Healers
Lachesis- +Def, -Atk
Elise- +Atk, -HP

I'll be promoting Alf...sometime soon once I decide whether to level him to 40 before hand or not.

Reminder, I am a whale, the above is not normal. >.>

I am ashamed of how invested I have become in Tomara getting a Takumi.
It is sort of an ongoing plot that you tune in every week just to see if this is the week it finally happens.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 15, 2017, 12:23:12 AM
I too am pulling for the Tomara Taco.


Btw, does anyone have a good place to check IVs?

I'm kinda curious about mine before I start diving into Merging/Inheritance while we're in this lull.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on April 15, 2017, 12:36:58 AM
Curious Rana, how much have you spent, if you don't mind disclosing? Personally I thought the prices on Orbs were absurd when I saw them, but maybe Pokemon Go is an anomaly for mobile games in that everything worth getting costs like $2 each.

Btw, does anyone have a good place to check IVs?

I use this site (https://feheroes.wiki/Stats_Calculator) since it's got a simple layout and it isn't filled with 10 trillion scripts running in the back that slow down your browser. It only checks level 1 and 40 though.

Tomara Taco

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/799/287/890.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 15, 2017, 06:21:24 AM
Curious Rana, how much have you spent, if you don't mind disclosing? Personally I thought the prices on Orbs were absurd when I saw them, but maybe Pokemon Go is an anomaly for mobile games in that everything worth getting costs like $2 each.
At this point? I have no fucking clue. If I were to guess, I'm probably averaging around $100 on banners I pull on (which is not every banner)? I've had some really good pulls where I got everything I wanted without spending money, but I've also had some nightmare pulls like Sanaki, Eldigan, and Karel....those three are incidentally why I have so freaking many reds. >.>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 15, 2017, 07:46:24 AM
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It is sort of an ongoing plot that you tune in every week just to see if this is the week it finally happens.

I promise I will keep working hard towards my goal and post screenshots when it finally happens.

(It's a shame you can't buy characters with feathers like you can craft cards in Hearthstone. I'd gladly give up 50,000 feathers if it meant getting the character I wanted.)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on April 18, 2017, 12:21:57 AM
Had 105 F2P Orbs saved up (haven't pulled since before the Spring banner) and decided to drop some on trying to get Faye, purely because I like her design and I love archers.

I originally said I wouldn't use more than 40, but went in for the "oh, maybe just one more" trap. In a rare turn of events, today it paid off.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on April 18, 2017, 10:15:09 AM
Congrats!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 19, 2017, 05:25:35 AM
Nice! I wish I had been that lucky with that first focus...

Anyway, Easter was colder than Christmas, so I figure it's about time for Hell freezing over and giving me a Takumi. Here we go!

Two red and one of every other colour. Not bad. That means a Hector, Lucina, Takumi and maybe a dancer!

Let's go!

OMG! A little movie! Is that Roy? That's Roy!

4* Roy - It's always kind of disappointing when a special character is only 4 stars, but yay, a Roy! I didn't have one yet.

5* Alm - !!! O_O

4* Shanna - No complaints.

5* Fae - Wait? What? WHAT?!

Okay, final one! This is the pull that makes the impossible possible! Against the odds, we draw!

3* Azama - ... Makes sense.

Edit: here's a shitty screenshot to prove that FEH is aiming for Stockholm Syndrome:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2828/34135440445_245a082065_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 19, 2017, 06:18:39 AM
Nice! I wish I had been that lucky with that first focus...

Anyway, Easter was colder than Christmas, so I figure it's about time for Hell freezing over and giving me a Takumi. Here we go!

Two red and one of every other colour. Not bad. That means a Hector, Lucina, Takumi and maybe a dancer!

Let's go!

OMG! A little movie! Is that Roy? That's Roy!

4* Roy - It's always kind of disappointing when a special character is only 4 stars, but yay, a Roy! I didn't have one yet.

5* Alm - !!! O_O

4* Shanna - No complaints.

5* Fae - Wait? What? WHAT?!

Okay, final one! This is the pull that makes the impossible possible! Against the odds, we draw!

3* Azama - ... Makes sense.

Edit: here's a shitty screenshot to prove that FEH is aiming for Stockholm Syndrome:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2828/34135440445_245a082065_z.jpg)

Now that's a good pull.


Anyways, amused by the Whitewing quests they posted, partly because I've had both Palla and Est since like my 3rd/4th pull (so both are level 40 4 stars), and mostly because I still don't have a Catria, so I'll happily take these since I can just assemble a Flier squad to clear quests and Catria can powerlevel with a few others I have need of leveling.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 19, 2017, 06:35:24 AM
So Zephiel comes out tomorrow...and we still don't know what will be in his banner.

And congrats to Tomara for a relatively good pull.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on April 19, 2017, 10:14:36 AM
Two 5* characters in one pull = "relatively good" by [member=4534]Ranadiel[/member] standards.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 19, 2017, 10:27:53 AM
I'm not sure I want to know what Ranadiel's standards are...

This was easily my best pull ever (atleast until I get a Takumi). Not just two 5*s, but also three characters I didn't have yet. Not to mention that Alm is my first 5* sword. I really needed something like him!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on April 19, 2017, 10:36:26 AM
Two 5* characters in one pull = "relatively good" by [member=4534]Ranadiel[/member] standards.

*furiously clicks where the like button should be*
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on April 19, 2017, 05:32:40 PM
Congrats [member=33]Tomara[/member]! Awesome pull! :)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 19, 2017, 05:43:24 PM
Two 5* characters in one pull = "relatively good" by Ranadiel standards.
It isn't the fact that it was two 5*s that made it relatively good, rather it was which 5*s it was. Had Tomara pulled a Hector and Takumi, it would have been the most amazing pull ever (hell getting just one of them qualifies as a great pull). Had Tomara pulled a 5* Cain and a 5* Lachesis, well you can always pray the universe hates you less next pull. With Alm and Fae, I was thinking they are both middle of pack for 5*s when I wrote relatively good. Although looking at the tier list, it looks like people might have warmed up to Alm a bit after using him for a few days so he might actually be an upper tier sword lord now that people have figured out how to use him.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on April 19, 2017, 07:10:59 PM
Anyone else picked up a Faye? Firesweep Bow is an odd one (cannot be countered/cannot counter). i'm thinking it'd be more useful on someone other than Faye!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 19, 2017, 11:29:42 PM
Two 5* characters in one pull = "relatively good" by Ranadiel standards.
It isn't the fact that it was two 5*s that made it relatively good, rather it was which 5*s it was. Had Tomara pulled a Hector and Takumi, it would have been the most amazing pull ever (hell getting just one of them qualifies as a great pull). Had Tomara pulled a 5* Cain and a 5* Lachesis, well you can always pray the universe hates you less next pull. With Alm and Fae, I was thinking they are both middle of pack for 5*s when I wrote relatively good. Although looking at the tier list, it looks like people might have warmed up to Alm a bit after using him for a few days so he might actually be an upper tier sword lord now that people have figured out how to use him.

Sorry, but I'll take a 5 star Lachesis over nothing but 3 stars that I already have half a dozen copies of at this point.


I have the Orbs to pull now, but I'm saving them for Celica's Focus because she's probably coming with Mae or at least Sonia and hey, I might instead pull one of Alm's now non-Focused units instead.

Also, this game desperately needs a new batch of 3 star pulls (seriously, half of the Blazing Blade team could easily pass as 3/4 stars at this point; instead the 5/4 star and 5 star pools are where all the new units are flocking that aren't limited in availability).

Also also, Tomara finishing her Tanooki quest in of itself would be the greatest achievement. Pulling your FE husbando/waifu without spending ludicrous amounts of money is how you win the game.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 20, 2017, 06:42:11 AM
New banner, might as well do a live pull. Can't say that I particularly like anything in this banner...but I don't have a Nowi so I guess I can aim for her? Otherwise standard wants on my pull of Linde and Lobsterhead.

3 Blue, 1 Red and 1 Colorless. Colorless I probably a waste, but rest looks potentially promising. So time to start by getting the crap out of the way.

4* Niles- Better than it could be but still useless
4* Roy- Still need a 5* version, but he does have TA3 at 4* so not a waste
5* Hinoka- Well I already have a level 39 version of you  >.>
4* Donnel- Meh
3* Robin- W/e

And checking B/B my new Hinoka is +HP, -Def. So inverse of current one. Neither of which are particularly outstanding.

Oh yeah and I got Zephiel. His stage was a little more annoying than I expected due to the constant swapping around of units. Managed to clear it in two tries with three mages and a dancer.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on April 20, 2017, 09:34:17 AM
Pulling your FE husbando/waifu without spending ludicrous amounts of money is how you win the game.

Then I guess I won, unless Nephenee somehow makes it in.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 20, 2017, 06:20:57 PM
Pulling your FE husbando/waifu without spending ludicrous amounts of money is how you win the game.

Then I guess I won, unless Nephenee somehow makes it in.
Well if we are using that definition of winning then it is basically impossible for me to win because Ayra still isn't in. :(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 20, 2017, 07:22:23 PM
Pulling your FE husbando/waifu without spending ludicrous amounts of money is how you win the game.

Then I guess I won, unless Nephenee somehow makes it in.
Well if we are using that definition of winning then it is basically impossible for me to win because Ayra still isn't in. :(

Same.


As for Zephiel, I was having trouble right up until I recalled that I had those Skill Seals, a point of Spd for Ursula enabled her to double the Mages, and the HP+3 for Gunter allowed him to tank Zephiel + Reprisal with exactly 1 HP remaining.

Now I can finally assemble an Armor Only team worth half a damn (I'll probably even Feather him to 5 star just so that I can have his weapon's Def Debuff effect so that the rest of my Armor team can actually contribute to fights rather than die at speeds somewhere between really fucking slowly and instantaneously).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on April 21, 2017, 11:38:23 AM
Zephiel wasn't too hard for my standard team of Roy/Reinhardt/Olivia/Nino. Armors are too easy to just kite around and screw with. Naturally I had Roy do the final blow to Zephiel because why not.

As for waifus, l I haven't gotten Ninian, but Hana is my Fates waifu so if that counts I guess I've won like 5 times already?

Speaking of which, guess I'll pull from this Zephiel focus- having more Reinhardts to fuse together would be nice. Got 60 Orbs so let's see how (un)lucky I get.

3* Henry: I know someone I can kill if I pull another one of you.
4* Eliwood: Coolio, only had him at 3*.
3* Odin: Nice abs, but I have the sound off so your quips won't help here.
4* Lachesis: Eh.
3* Virion: Yuck.

4* Selena: More swords.
3* Stahl: I don't know why they even bothered giving this guy out as a quest reward, I doubt anybody was missing him.
3* Tiki: At least its not another sword, I guess?
3* Nino: +HP, -DEF. Wouldn't mind getting Nino again if I could at least get a decent bane/boon next time.
3* Serra: Crappy staffbot, and unfortunately she won't have any support conversations to amuse me with in this game.

Oh look. a cutscene.
4* Marth: How anticlimatic.
3* Barst: Well, he's new at least.
4* Bartre: Fury's a pretty interesting skill I guess, maybe it'll have some use in the future.
3* Florina: Cute, but useless.
4* Klein: Whee, another new one. Death Blow is nice so dunno if I should keep him for collection's sake or grind him into skill powder for Reinhardt to snort.

Gotta say that was a disappointing pull overall.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 21, 2017, 12:14:41 PM
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4* Klein: Whee, another new one. Death Blow is nice so dunno if I should keep him for collection's sake or grind him into skill powder for Reinhardt to snort.

I'd keep him around. On the defensive he's no Takumi, but on the offensive he's better. Mine is also 4* and has a sucky bane, but he's still viable for the Arena.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 21, 2017, 04:41:49 PM
My vote would be to turn your Reinhardt into a monster as I've been reading about how he is able to one round kill almost all of the units in the game when given Death Blow 3 especially if he +Atk.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on April 24, 2017, 01:14:54 AM
Well, I failed to get a 4* Zephiel. At least I can promote the 3* if I want to at some point in the future.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 24, 2017, 06:09:01 AM
Well, I failed to get a 4* Zephiel. At least I can promote the 3* if I want to at some point in the future.
Actually better to take the 3* up to level 40, promote, take that 4* up to level 40, promote, and then take that 5* up to level 40. You end up with more SP (meaning more skill inheritance) than using the 4*. I've currently got my (originally) 3* Zephiel up to 4* level 14 or something and he is doing great since I gave him Bonfire.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on April 24, 2017, 07:12:03 AM
True!

In the end, I actually got the 4* with 30min left on the clock! Haha. I had a bit of a weird team with Klein (5*), Fae (5*), Robin (M) (4*) and Olivia (3*). Basically used Draw Back with Fae and Dance with Olivia to keep Robin and Klein killing stuff and out of trouble.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 24, 2017, 05:12:50 PM
So some old GHBs are now up. Nothing really to gain from Navarre in all honesty, but F. Robin is currently the only source of B. Tome breaker, so stocking up on some extras of her is nice.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 25, 2017, 06:32:04 AM
Welp. Looks like I was wrong about the next Summoning Focus. I guess they're saving Celica and crew for the western release of Echoes or something because right now they're dropping Ike's Mercs on us.

Not sure I should drop my orbs now for a chance for Clair or hope that I can pull a Titania.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 25, 2017, 06:45:16 AM
I'm looking forward to this one. There are three characters I want and sure Mist will probably live up to her name (grab a German dictionary if you don't get it), but since there are neutral characters I do want, I can go all-out.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on April 25, 2017, 10:11:25 AM
Ike's Mercs

Cool!  Any chance for Oscar?   .....or Nephenee?  T____T
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 25, 2017, 06:06:25 PM
So this update should be great. I'm pulling for two of the characters, and I'd be fine if I ended up with a third of the four. Additionally we are apparently getting a new story chapter. So I assume 5 new maps.

Further I am hyped about Ike's Heavy Blade skill (skill countdown decreases faster if you atk is higher than your opponent's atk). It seems they really want to enable Aether Ike since he was the original Aether user. Which gives me hope that they'll give the original Astra users something similar. Like a Heavy Blade equivalent skill based off of speed...because that would not be broken. Especially if Balmung is a legendary hero sword. That would be completely balanced. >.>

I'm looking forward to this one. There are three characters I want and sure Mist will probably live up to her name (grab a German dictionary if you don't get it), but since there are neutral characters I do want, I can go all-out.
Yeah...Mist is the one that I will not be pulling for this time.


Cool!  Any chance for Oscar?   .....or Nephenee?  T____T
Nope it is Ike, Soren, Titania, and Mist. So core members+Mist. I'm sure we'll get the others eventually.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 25, 2017, 08:09:32 PM
Meanwhile I decided that if they aren't doing Team Celica tomorrow, I'll roll the dice with what I had for two more times in the hole in the hopes that I didn't waste the modifier from my first round of pulls.

Turns out I did, but it wasn't a complete loss as I've finally pulled a Barst (3 star of course) and a Roy (4 star because a 5 star one would've burned the modifier). Also pulled my third Marth, my second Jeorge, and a bunch of Inheritance fodder (seriously, how many Bartres, Raighs and Azamas am I going to get?). And of course there wasn't even a Blue Orb out of the whole lot (my first pull was so completely unremarkable that I didn't even bother to remark on it until now).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 26, 2017, 04:05:38 AM
The new defence levels are fun, though a bit easy on the lower difficulties. (Or maybe I just happened to be training the perfect characters for those chapters). In any case, I have 20 orbs, time to pull!

Two red and one of each other colour. Perfect. I expecting something on the level of my last pull (the one with the two 5*s).

4* Fir - ...

4* Stahl - Okay, another 4*. Last pull was like that as well. So next up, Takumi and Soren!

3* Azama - I think he thinks his name is Takumi. But! It's still looking like my last pull! Soren and some awesome blue unit, it's going to happen!

4* Fae - Looking a bit too much like my last pull...

4* Odin - Look at the handsome skill fodder that doesn't know how to dress himself!

All in all, this could have been a lot worse. It could also have been a lot better.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 26, 2017, 06:05:18 AM
Live pull time! Ike and Titania are on the menu for today. Soren would be nice, but I really don't need him. As apparently always looking for Lobsterhead and Linde.

Hmm 2 colorless. I'll pass on those. There is probably a Mist in there and I don't need that.

4* Eirika- Meh.

4* Olivia- Double meh

4* Gunter- I want Titania so I don't have to use you, go away

Next circle

3* Lon'qu- I have like twn of you already

4* Ogma- Meh

3* Sully- W/e

4* Robin- Finishes off this round of meh

Well time to spend unknowable amounts orbs to get Ike and Titania then.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 26, 2017, 09:18:18 AM

3* Lon'qu- I have like twn of you already

Vantage for everyone!

Got 20 orbs again, so I might as well. It's time for yet another moment of truth! I'm finally getting my Takumi! And a Soren, and another good red unit and maybe Linde or some dancer... In any case, it's going to be awesome!

Again, two red and one of every other colour. Perfect.

4* Raigh - Well... atleast he's 4*s?

3* Sophia - Damnit. Fortunately, this is just build-up to the next one! Welcome, Takumi!

3* Setsuna - No... Setsuna, no... Bad Setsuna.

3* Arthur - Do you hate me again, FEH? I thought we talked it out...

5* Linde - Much better. Much, much, much better!

I still have this 'nearly all my good 5* units are blue mages' problem, but there's no way in hell I'm going to complain about Linde. ... -SPD, + RES... Eh, good enough!


Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on April 26, 2017, 09:52:06 AM
Guess I'll do a pull of my own.  I definitely want Titania, for sure.  She's one of the best FE waifus out there.

3 Red, 1 Blue, 1 Null.  Not a single Green.  *sigh*

1. 3* Eliwood - dupe

2. 4* Raigh - bleh

3. 4* Oboro - Cool!  I like her a lot and she comes with a Heavy Spear.

- Ike incoming!  I can feel it!

4. 3* Sophia - I hate this game.

5. 3* Niles - I hate this game even more.

Well, that was horrible.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 26, 2017, 05:27:17 PM
5* Linde - Much better. Much, much, much better!

I still have this 'nearly all my good 5* units are blue mages' problem, but there's no way in hell I'm going to complain about Linde. ... -SPD, + RES... Eh, good enough!
*shakes his fist* Curse you for getting one of the few units I am missing and still want!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 27, 2017, 03:17:31 AM
*shakes his fist* Curse you for getting one of the few units I am missing and still want!

That's what you get for having such high standards. I'm happy with whatever shiny stuff I get and the RNG Gods appreciate that. Now if only they'd reward my faith with a Takumi...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 27, 2017, 06:06:20 PM

That's what you get for having such high standards. I'm happy with whatever shiny stuff I get and the RNG Gods appreciate that. Now if only they'd reward my faith with a Takumi...
Fine then, I'm just going to take my +Spd/-Res Ike and go cry in the corner. *sniffle* :p
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 28, 2017, 03:58:54 AM
*shakes his fist* Curse you for getting one of the few units I am missing and still want!

That's what you get for having such high standards. I'm happy with whatever shiny stuff I get and the RNG Gods appreciate that. Now if only they'd reward my faith with a Takumi...

You may yet be in luck, for the game is offering a new Focus specifically for hard to pull units like Azura, Ryoma, Hector and Takumi and at higher than normal odds of getting pulled.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 28, 2017, 04:53:18 AM

You may yet be in luck, for the game is offering a new Focus specifically for hard to pull units like Azura, Ryoma, Hector and Takumi and at higher than normal odds of getting pulled.

Perhaps. I do plan on throwing every orb I get at it (like a full pull and then snipe neutrals with the leftovers), but considering my luck, I'll end up with everyone but Takumi :)

I'm actually kind of regretting using orbs on the other focus. I mean, Linde is great, but she's not one of my favourite characters.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 28, 2017, 06:21:21 AM

You may yet be in luck, for the game is offering a new Focus specifically for hard to pull units like Azura, Ryoma, Hector and Takumi and at higher than normal odds of getting pulled.
Huh...was not expecting this. Well I guess I should get myself a Ryoma finally then. I want to draw for extra Hectors too...but I don't know whether I should draw for them for Distant Counter or to boost my current one. Hmm well, let's just do a live draw first and see what happens.

2 Red, 2 Colorless, 1 Blue, skipping colorless unless a Ryoma is here

3* Olivia- Redundant
3* Fir- Meh
5* Azura- Dammit I already have you. >.>
4* Virion- I don't think I actually have you at 4* yet?
4* Jakob- Stop stalking me

*Several pulls later* Oh hey I finally got a Bartre...and a second Hector.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on April 28, 2017, 11:49:01 AM
Definitely worth pulling from this one! Hopefully I won't steal Tomara's husbando.

3 Green, 1 Red, 1 Colorless.

Cutscene wee...oh look, boobs.

4* Camilla: Wish they'd restrict cutscenes to just the 5*...but hey, -HP, +ATK. Pretty sure that makes this a hell of a unit. Maybe I should consider 5*ing her eventually.

3* Arthur: Lancebreaker is nice.

3* Frederick: Eh.

3* Tiki: go away

5* Priscilla: Eh...nice for the collection I guess. Maybe she'd be useful in a cavalry team?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 28, 2017, 04:04:34 PM
So apparently this event is for Golden Week. Hurray for something good finally coming from that. Normally the only thing I get from that is a week with no new manga. >.>

Oh in other news, apparently the next Voting Gauntlet is going to be a free for all amongst 8 of the best mages currently in the game. And by 8 I mean 4 top tier female mages, M. Robin, and three male mages that were thrown in because they needed three more mages for the theme. Soon Linde will be mine and my collection of Prf. weapon users will be complete!...other than the few that need to be promoted from 4* to 5*.

And speaking of Prf. weapon users, I finally got around to finishing leveling my Zephiel. He is an absolute monster now. I now have 3 overpowered armors of different colors that are ready to destroy everything next time they give a 4 armor mission! Decided to try and level up my Alphonse afterwards (4* level 31)...and it is quite the power drop from Zephiel, who I could basically ignore the weapon triangle with because of his atk and def. Someday Alphonse, you'll manage to hit level 40...and still be inferior to Zephiel.

5* Priscilla: Eh...nice for the collection I guess. Maybe she'd be useful in a cavalry team?
She can work in cavalry team? Honestly best way to use her would be to provide stat boosts to another cavalry unit while you are leveling that unit up. In terms of arena combat, she probably won't help a lot.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on April 29, 2017, 03:32:56 AM
Have another 20 orbs.

2 Red and 1 of everything else.

4* Cain: Would be nice if you could inherit Brave weapons.
3* Hana: I wonder if you could just combine a bunch of 3*s and make a strong unit?
3* Florina: Lots of her, when am I going to get a Hector to balance it out?
3* Nino: -HP +SPD is a pretty good set at least.
4* Jeorge: Wrong archer.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 29, 2017, 04:44:05 AM
Have another 20 orbs.

2 Red and 1 of everything else.

4* Cain: Would be nice if you could inherit Brave weapons.

But you can? It just has to be the right colour. My 4* Oboro is having a lot of fun with one of my many Donnel's brace lances.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 29, 2017, 07:42:02 AM

But you can? It just has to be the right colour. My 4* Oboro is having a lot of fun with one of my many Donnel's brace lances.
One of the most terrifying things in the game is to give Effie a Brave Lance+. I believe that that gives her the highest destructive power (48+6 attackx2 if she initiates) in the game (although Reinhardt with Death Blow 3 is probably more dangerous due to movement and range).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on April 29, 2017, 10:40:05 AM
Hm, guess I thought that was the reason Dire Thunder couldn't be passed around, but I guess it's a Prf weapon for two different units.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 29, 2017, 11:39:07 AM
Hm, guess I thought that was the reason Dire Thunder couldn't be passed around, but I guess it's a Prf weapon for two different units.
Huh never noticed that, but yeah Dire Thunder matches the Prf weapon naming scheme. Prf weapons go Silver weapon (or silver weapon equivalent for tomes)->(New weapon name) while non-Prf weapons go (tier 3 weapon name)->(tier 3 weapon name)+. Dire Thunder goes Thoron->Dire Thunder while all the non-magic brave weapons go Brave (weapon type)->Brave (weapon type)+.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on April 29, 2017, 11:40:12 AM
Dire Thunder is a Prf on two different units because both units used that weapon in their game of origin (its also why there are 4 Falchions floating around right now).


That said, I decided to pull for the Meta Focus instead of the Radiant one since while I like Titania, I really want a Hector to round out my Armor Team (Zephiel's amazing, but he can't carry the entire team on his own). My most noteworthy pull was a second 3 star Jagen (I can finally find someone to Inherit his Fortify Cavalry skill, once I promote him, a second 3 star Florina (not particularly useful but a cheap Darting Blow inheritance is pretty sweet) and my third Camilla (4 star of course, not that I need a second 5 star, though a 40+ Camilla isn't too bad). The other two were a 3 star Beruka, who I should just Feather since not many units want a Glimmer/Killer Axe combo or Defiant Def, and a 3 star Gaius, who at least bring some more Rally Speed and Defiant Attack to the table.


So apparently this event is for Golden Week. Hurray for something good finally coming from that. Normally the only thing I get from that is a week with no new manga. >.>

Oh in other news, apparently the next Voting Gauntlet is going to be a free for all amongst 8 of the best mages currently in the game. And by 8 I mean 4 top tier female mages, M. Robin, and three male mages that were thrown in because they needed three more mages for the theme. Soon Linde will be mine and my collection of Prf. weapon users will be complete!...other than the few that need to be promoted from 4* to 5*.

And speaking of Prf. weapon users, I finally got around to finishing leveling my Zephiel. He is an absolute monster now. I now have 3 overpowered armors of different colors that are ready to destroy everything next time they give a 4 armor mission! Decided to try and level up my Alphonse afterwards (4* level 31)...and it is quite the power drop from Zephiel, who I could basically ignore the weapon triangle with because of his atk and def. Someday Alphonse, you'll manage to hit level 40...and still be inferior to Zephiel.

5* Priscilla: Eh...nice for the collection I guess. Maybe she'd be useful in a cavalry team?
She can work in cavalry team? Honestly best way to use her would be to provide stat boosts to another cavalry unit while you are leveling that unit up. In terms of arena combat, she probably won't help a lot.

Hey man, two of those Male Mages have their own Prfs and one's the best available mounted Red Mage. Granted these don't really help save them compared to three Prfs on the most powerful of Mages currently available (not to mention the waifu coefficient or the previous/current metas).

That being said, this time could honestly be a toss up for a winner since the Meta favors Linde while Tharja is the stronger waifu contender, not to mention that the change in voting mechanics which may or may not have an impact of some kind (either desirable or not).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 29, 2017, 01:13:15 PM
Hey man, two of those Male Mages have their own Prfs and one's the best available mounted Red Mage. Granted these don't really help save them compared to three Prfs on the most powerful of Mages currently available (not to mention the waifu coefficient or the previous/current metas).

That being said, this time could honestly be a toss up for a winner since the Meta favors Linde while Tharja is the stronger waifu contender, not to mention that the change in voting mechanics which may or may not have an impact of some kind (either desirable or not).
....the only reason Leo is the best available mounted Red Mage is because he is the only one. And I don't think a Prf weapon really helps that much when it is cut from your best build (which I assume has to be a Blade tome for him). And a Prf. weapon is not going to be saving Merric with his stats. Actually M. Robin despite being the best male character in this match up isn't even really that great. I still use him as he makes for a great wall against melee units while leveling units up, but the power difference between the male and female side this time is ridiculous. I'd say that the weakest female easily creams the strongest male....but I'm not sure who the weakest female is.

As for voting, I'm going team Julia. I fully expect us to get eliminated before the finals, but she is one of my favorite units. Although my lack of a lvl 1 version of her could end up biting me in the rear when it comes to voting. Hmm. Well if it becomes a problem I could try and draw a new one I guess. *shrug*

Tharja is probably the favorite to win overall due to waifu preference and wider availability (since she has a 4* version), but the loser catch up system is could cause some interesting upsets.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 30, 2017, 01:27:38 PM
I think I'll just side with Linde. That's what the RNG gods are telling me to do anyway.


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Fine then, I'm just going to take my +Spd/-Res Ike and go cry in the corner. *sniffle* :p

Used my L40 Linde for the first time in the arena today. Turns out she can one-shot the occassional Ike.

BTW I'm wondering if I should change my defence team to something with all my good magic blue units. Plus a back-up dancer. Reinhardt and Linde should be able to overwhelm most units, and Nowi with Vantage is a big pain in the ass to deal with... It would also be a nice 'Screw you!' to the people who got all sorts of good reds and couldn't decide between Ryoma and Ike and ended up bringing both.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on April 30, 2017, 02:43:04 PM
Okay, I have 60+ orbs and a few minutes before I have to leave for work. Time to see if I can get anything good from this event for this game that I don't actually play other than to get login orbs to use for live Gacha pulls in this thread. (Go, go Gadget Peer Pressure!)

And here we go:

3 Red, one Blue and Green

Red 1:  4-star Draug - I might already have him? Maybe it was only 3-stars. I don't know, I don't really pay enough attention to my party to remember.

Green 1: 3-star Barst - 'I used to be a mercenary, now I'm just a regular woodcutter... that you just summoned to be a mercenary."

Blue 1: 3-star Subaki - Pretty sure this is my first pegasus knights, though I have plenty of dragon riders so whatevs.

Red 2: 3-star Olivia - Already have a 4-star so bleh.

Red 3: 3-star Raigh - Seriously, what is with all the non-sequitur in character introductions?

======================
Well, that was crap. Got enough time for one more:

Fuckin hell, 4 red one neutral

Red 1: 4-star Stahl - never has green been less flattering on a person.

Red 2: 4-star Laslow - suave.

Neutral: 4-star Matthew - Christ this is getting annoying.

Red 3: 3-star Stahl - OH FUCK OFF

Red 4: 3-star Tiki - Love my 4-star, but.. .uh... I already have a 4-star...

God this is not boding well for how today is gonna be.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 30, 2017, 02:59:05 PM
Used my L40 Linde for the first time in the arena today. Turns out she can one-shot the occassional Ike.

BTW I'm wondering if I should change my defence team to something with all my good magic blue units. Plus a back-up dancer. Reinhardt and Linde should be able to overwhelm most units, and Nowi with Vantage is a big pain in the ass to deal with... It would also be a nice 'Screw you!' to the people who got all sorts of good reds and couldn't decide between Ryoma and Ike and ended up bringing both.
Bah, if we are playing my unit can beat yours, I'm pretty sure my Julia takes 0 damage from most Lindes...so yeah. :p

As for defense, Reinhardt is supposed to be really good on defense when paired with a dancer. Basically, you just need to kill one unit and a lot of people will just surrender. I'm not sure about going all blue. On one hand, it will wreck any red heavy team. On the other hand, I'm not actually sure that red heavy teams are still the meta. Probably will get some wins though, and that is really all you need. Which reminds me..*checks arena defenses* Looks like I might need to add Reinhardt to my defense team because I am now two weeks without a defense win. >.>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on April 30, 2017, 04:12:57 PM
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Blue 1: 3-star Subaki - Pretty sure this is my first pegasus knights, though I have plenty of dragon riders so whatevs.

Subaki is actually a really helpful unit in those tricky GHBs and various other challenges. Put him across from a red units and he turns into a wall. A wall that kills.



Bah, if we are playing my unit can beat yours, I'm pretty sure my Julia takes 0 damage from most Lindes...so yeah. :p

Julias are my worst enemy. They do 60+ damage to Nowis, and while I'm generally totally okay with doing 60+ damage to Nowis, I'd rather not have it happen to mine.

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As for defense, Reinhardt is supposed to be really good on defense when paired with a dancer. Basically, you just need to kill one unit and a lot of people will just surrender. I'm not sure about going all blue. On one hand, it will wreck any red heavy team. On the other hand, I'm not actually sure that red heavy teams are still the meta. Probably will get some wins though, and that is really all you need. Which reminds me..*checks arena defenses* Looks like I might need to add Reinhardt to my defense team because I am now two weeks without a defense win. >.>

I keep running to teams with two reds, so hey, it might work. Plus, I'm pretty sure Reinhardt with the right skills is pretty much outside of the weapon triangle while on the offensive.

If not, I can just switch back to my usual team of Nowi, Alphonse/Alm, Reinhardt and Lucius, and hope they land on maps with chokepoints. That usually brings in a few wins and since just one good one is enough to get those 500 feathers...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on April 30, 2017, 07:16:52 PM
I keep running to teams with two reds, so hey, it might work. Plus, I'm pretty sure Reinhardt with the right skills is pretty much outside of the weapon triangle while on the offensive.
I think he needs Death Blow 3 and maybe a +Atk nature to (mostly) ignore the weapon triangle. I'm pretty sure Julia still destroys him in 1v1, but that is because she is a Res tank with weapon triangle advantage. So basically she is designed to wreck him.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 01, 2017, 03:23:45 AM
True. Julia was designed to wreck all my good units ;_;

Speaking of units, it's summoning time!

Three neutral and two blue. I'm loving my odds! Give me all the Takumis! (And an Azura!)

3* Sully - Bad Sully.

3* Donnel - I've gotten so many, I'm out of jokes.

4* Klein - Wrong archer, but if this one is +atk, I won't complain! And if he isn't, eh... yay, skill fodder?

3* Serra - Fuck you, Serra.

Last one. I'm scared. Please let this be my Takumi...

4* Kagero - Oh. Didn't have one yet. So... not bad?

But it's not Takumi ;_;

Fortunately there are a ton of May quests, so my search for my favourite archer isn't over yet.

Oh, and Klein turned out to be +atk, -res! I would have prefered -def, but I'm seriously considering raising this one to 5*. Kagero is +atk, -spd. Not ideal but still usable.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on May 01, 2017, 02:45:10 PM
Time to spend the rest of these orbs and see if maybe I have better luck today:

Well we make up for that blast of red with 2 neutral, 2 green, and a blue

Neutral 1: 3-star Niles - At least he knows what he is. (a disgrace)

Green 1: 3-star Frederick - Not off to a good start, are we?

Neutral 2:  3-star Felicia - 2 out of 3 repeats so far. Last time I had this bad of luck (yesterday) I ended up having the worst day of work ever.

Green 2: 3-star Gunter - If this is a straight shoot of 3-stars, I'm seriously done for good.

Blue: 3-star Oboro - App uninstalling as I type.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on May 02, 2017, 02:58:02 AM
Used 70 Orbs for a punch of pulls. Really wanted Azura, but I came out with a Ryoma so no complaints.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 02, 2017, 06:30:15 AM
Whelp, we got a new banner for Xander. I suppose I should do a live pull. If I don't get a Linde though, I'm going to wait for the gauntlet banners because I don't want to risk wasting pulls on a Cordelia since I have no real need for her.

1 blue, 2 green, 1 , red, and 1 colorless. I'll pull the blue and give this another try.

3* Oboro...nope

2, red, 1 green, and 2 colorless....fuck it

3* Matthew....this is going to be bad
4* Niles- useless
3* Selena- Have half a dozen of you
5* Chrom- Useless
3* Arthur- Ugly

New Chrom is +Atk/-Res...which is better than my old Chrom of +Atk/-Spd. So I guess for min/maxing purposes I should train this one up. Although I didn't even bother with giving my old Chrom any skills because of how bad his base build is. >.>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on May 02, 2017, 06:40:49 AM
Had no trouble clearing this month's cavalry mission. Now working on the Flier mission. I'm not sure if I should bother trying the armor one this time around. Zephiel's good but the only other 4* I have is Gwendolyn. Pretty sure that's not enough to carry a team except in very specific enemy sets, and I doubt I'll get 15 of those.

Cleared a couple of the easier quests until I had 20 Orbs. Not too interested in the Xander one so I'll keep trying for the Heroes one.

2 Red, 1 Blue, 1 Green, 1 Colorless.

3* Sophia: Why didn't you show up during your focus?
3* Henry: I'm gonna kill you.

Cutscene...

4* Camilla: Another 4* cutscene. +ATK, -RES. No idea if that's better than what I had. I already have the previous Camilla I got to 40, but I'm wondering if it's worth 5*ing her because so far she hasn't impressed me too much. I find her ATK's a bit too low to synergize well with the Brave Axe.
4* Nowi: New character, wee. Guess she'll be handy if they ever make some Manakete-centered Quests.

Oh, another cutscene.

Oh.

Oh...

Sorry Tomara.

5* Takumi: All neutral stats. Guess I should be thankful that I at least didn't roll -ATK or something.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 02, 2017, 07:15:24 AM


3* Sophia: Why didn't you show up during your focus?

Because she shows up any other time. It's a good thing she has a few skills worth passing on...


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3* Henry: I'm gonna kill you.

I'm sure he'd like that as long as you make it painless but spectacularly bloody.

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4* Nowi: New character, wee. Guess she'll be handy if they ever make some Manakete-centered Quests.

You may want to promote that Nowi to 5*. Her weapon has a build-in distant counter and she's pretty tanky.

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Sorry Tomara.

Well... it happens. Enjoy your Takumi.

Two more orbs before I'll be able to pull again...

BTW my new Klein just reached L40 and man, he's awesome. I think I'll promote him just to have a 5* archer. Of course, this will convince the RNG gods this is an excellent time to give me another 5* archer, because that's totally how it works.

Edit: I thought: 'screw this!' and used a stamina potion to be able to finish up two more orb quests.

Now watch and weep as I pull the most amazing characters!

Three red, one neutral, one green.

4* Cherche - well, okay, 4* isn't too bad I guess...

Now, say hello to Ryoma!

3* Olivia  - I now have a small army of Olivias.

4* Fir - How about we throw all Firs in a pit, make them fight to the death and keep the one that survives?

3* Selena - Hey, look, it's the twin-tailed tsundere that talks exactly like Trump! "I'm Selena, a mercenary who works for Nohr. Very talented. Ask anyone! They'll say I'm cute too. Bonus!"

Okay, so now for the tsundere I do want!

4* Kagero - ... And now I keep getting Kagero's... Let's see if I have some shuriken user with actual stats that would like to inherit her weapon...

Let's see... I think I can get maybe 14-15 more orbs before this banner ends. That means maybe three more chances to get a Takumi if I snipe...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 03, 2017, 06:31:26 AM
Pulled again. Got a second 4 star Tharja (-Atk +Def though), as well as 4 star Selena and Niles (crap, but at least I don't need to waste Feathers on these) and a second 3 star Shanna (Inheritance Fodder) as well as a 3 star Serra (like my sixth one of these).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on May 03, 2017, 05:55:22 PM
Pulled on the hero banner again, but only the blues (c'mon Azura!). I ended up with a 5* Cordelia... which I really didn't want. I don't like Cordelia and that reset my increasing draw rate. Sigh.

Edit: Oh, also got 4* Xander today. Team was Effie (5*), Fae (5*), Klein (5*), Olivia (3*).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on May 04, 2017, 08:33:57 AM
Dammit Tomara why did you go and ruin Selena for me

Anyway I'm about to finish the infantry monthly so all I'll have left is the armor one. Given that there's still 20+ days left of the month I guess I'll at least try it. I guess I should inherit a halfway decent A skill onto Zephiel. No idea why they put Life and Death on the guy, it's like the worst possible skill for armors.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 04, 2017, 09:31:33 AM
Dammit Tomara why did you go and ruin Selena for me

"I know I'm pretty fierce, but I've got to look great too. Hair that looks THIS good takes a lot of combing."

How that mental image coming along? :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 04, 2017, 06:08:58 PM
Given that there's still 20+ days left of the month I guess I'll at least try it. I guess I should inherit a halfway decent A skill onto Zephiel. No idea why they put Life and Death on the guy, it's like the worst possible skill for armors.
Well since the banner is still active, you could always pull for a Hector and sacrifice him to give Zephiel Distant Counter.

No idea on why they gave him LaD either, although I think it could work on an armor. You just would need an armor that doesn't need Wary Fighter...so a speedy armor? Okay maybe I am wrong and it would never work on an armor.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 04, 2017, 06:44:20 PM
Given that there's still 20+ days left of the month I guess I'll at least try it. I guess I should inherit a halfway decent A skill onto Zephiel. No idea why they put Life and Death on the guy, it's like the worst possible skill for armors.
Well since the banner is still active, you could always pull for a Hector and sacrifice him to give Zephiel Distant Counter.

No idea on why they gave him LaD either, although I think it could work on an armor. You just would need an armor that doesn't need Wary Fighter...so a speedy armor? Okay maybe I am wrong and it would never work on an armor.

I think the idea was to provide "MAXIMUM ATK!!!" given Eckesachs' 16 Mt and built in Threaten Def 2 on top of his own huge Atk stat and Wary Fighter making the trade 1 for 1, but then Death Blow or Fury would've been better for those purposes (fortunately, I can just feed him one of my Bartres and promote him to 5 stars to solve that little issue).

Now if only I had the time to actually spend on FEH to do any of that. Hell, I still haven't even recruited Xander yet.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on May 05, 2017, 12:39:38 AM
Well since the banner is still active, you could always pull for a Hector and sacrifice him to give Zephiel Distant Counter.

Doubt I'll have enough Orbs to roll again before it ends. Would be nice to roll a Hector at all, let alone another one I could turn into skill fodder.

I want to say I've never spent a dime on mobile games before, but I did buy the Pokemon Go Plus so that's not actually true. I'm aiming not to spend any more though. =P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 05, 2017, 06:43:07 AM
Now if only I had the time to actually spend on FEH to do any of that. Hell, I still haven't even recruited Xander yet.
Well if you can make time, this week is probably the best time to train units due to the x2 SP. I'm planning on spending some time on Saturday chugging stamina potions to hit 40 on all of my 5*s and do some skill training that I have been putting off (like giving Effie a Brave Lance+).

Doubt I'll have enough Orbs to roll again before it ends. Would be nice to roll a Hector at all, let alone another one I could turn into skill fodder.

I want to say I've never spent a dime on mobile games before, but I did buy the Pokemon Go Plus so that's not actually true. I'm aiming not to spend any more though. =P
Hmm well I believe the other build that I saw for Zephiel was give him Death Blow and a Brave Sword.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 05, 2017, 07:14:31 PM
Now if only I had the time to actually spend on FEH to do any of that. Hell, I still haven't even recruited Xander yet.
Well if you can make time, this week is probably the best time to train units due to the x2 SP. I'm planning on spending some time on Saturday chugging stamina potions to hit 40 on all of my 5*s and do some skill training that I have been putting off (like giving Effie a Brave Lance+).

Doubt I'll have enough Orbs to roll again before it ends. Would be nice to roll a Hector at all, let alone another one I could turn into skill fodder.

I want to say I've never spent a dime on mobile games before, but I did buy the Pokemon Go Plus so that's not actually true. I'm aiming not to spend any more though. =P
Hmm well I believe the other build that I saw for Zephiel was give him Death Blow and a Brave Sword.

Or I could just grind out a few levels for my 4 star Tharja, then park Olivia and Frederick next to her and let Raudrblade and Cordelia do the rest.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 07, 2017, 03:21:11 AM
Or I could just grind out a few levels for my 4 star Tharja, then park Olivia and Frederick next to her and let Raudrblade and Cordelia do the rest.

That strategy sounds more fun with a Leo with Raudrblade. Cavalry can get some really nice boosts...

Anyway, my final shot at the Hero Fest banner. 15 orbs, so three shots.

First... 1x green and 4x blue.

Fuck.

Well, that green one could be Hector. Or Soren. I do have a knack for pulling characters from the wrong banner.

3* Gunter - No...

Next attempt.

Yes, one colourless!

3* Azama - Why do you show up everytime I'm hoping for a Takumi?!

Final chance. The focus odds are sitting at 5,63%. We can do this.

4x red, 1x colourless! This is it!

3* Saizo - I don't know what I expected...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 07, 2017, 01:00:31 PM
Or I could just grind out a few levels for my 4 star Tharja, then park Olivia and Frederick next to her and let Raudrblade and Cordelia do the rest.

That strategy sounds more fun with a Leo with Raudrblade. Cavalry can get some really nice boosts...

That strategy unfortunately requires having a Leo to begin with (and then sacrificing a Tharja to him; not that I don't just so happen to have a spare on hand or anything).

Not that I'm totally doing the same thing for Ursula and Cecilia (because lol +30 Atk, or whatever the ceiling is (moar like +34 Atk for Ursula for her Death Blow 2; if I 5 starred her I could bump it up to +36)). Bonus points for the fact that Ursula's Special already takes a long time to charge and thus isn't useful 90% of the time and Cecilia doesn't have one (though Cav effective damage and Colorless WTA are pretty solid traits themselves).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 07, 2017, 06:35:53 PM
Bah, I was going to do some more leveling today but apparently the double SP ended a day before the banner did. >.> Oh well I got my Defiant Defense Seliph and Death Blow Reinhardt for my defense team, so it worked out. And they managed to get me a win today...only one win so far, but that is all I need.

Or I could just grind out a few levels for my 4 star Tharja, then park Olivia and Frederick next to her and let Raudrblade and Cordelia do the rest.

That strategy sounds more fun with a Leo with Raudrblade. Cavalry can get some really nice boosts...
....neither of these strategies optimize Zephiel or help with the armor quests (primary reason to optimize Zephiel). So while they aren't bad, they accomplish different goals. :p
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on May 07, 2017, 07:07:52 PM
Should I throw my last few orbs at (trying to get Azura in) the Hero Banner? Or wait for the next one with Celica? Hmmmmmmmm...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 07, 2017, 07:23:48 PM
Or I could just grind out a few levels for my 4 star Tharja, then park Olivia and Frederick next to her and let Raudrblade and Cordelia do the rest.

That strategy sounds more fun with a Leo with Raudrblade. Cavalry can get some really nice boosts...
....neither of these strategies optimize Zephiel or help with the armor quests (primary reason to optimize Zephiel). So while they aren't bad, they accomplish different goals. :p

The first was in regards to getting Xander Lunatic done. As for the second, yeah, sorry, but nobody has a Sword that gets stronger with buffs (if only he were a Mage Armor).

Your best bet was to either pull a team of Hector, 2x Effies, a few Draugs and Gwendolyns for Inheritance Harvesting and win a Zephiel to cover the spread, or 5 star your Zephiel and hope you like to grind.


I Didn't Get Shit From This Last Banner Edit: So much for that last pull (fucking maintenance time cutting into things). Welp, more pulls for Celica and gang (and I'm never gonna get a Hector).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on May 08, 2017, 01:02:56 AM
Okay, went and pulled and did get a 5*, but not Azura... got my second 5* Effie. Not sure whether I should merge or just keep her on hand in case i want a skill.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 08, 2017, 06:38:24 AM
Mage banners are live before the Voting Gauntlet begins, so it is time for a live pull! I am getting Linde today one way or another and I would not object to a extra Julia. So lets see who I get in my first draw of the day.

4 red and 1 blue, I'll pull blue and try out the next one.
4* Donnel

2 Blue and 3 colorless, repeat the above
4* Clair- Eh she's new
3* Corrin

1 red, 1 green, 1 blue, and 2 colorless, just drawing blue and green and calling it a wrap for the live pull (unless I get a 5* then finish circle off)
4* Catria
5* Camilla....dammit rate reset. I mean I hadn't gotten a large rate yet, but still
3* Laslow
3* Serra
3* Wrys.- Eh I need Live to serve for inheritance
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on May 08, 2017, 10:55:57 AM
I managed to scrounge together 20 Orbs before the Hero banner went away, so I drew. Hector was what I really wanted, but I didn't get any greens on the set. Ended up getting:

4* Hana: Didn't have her at 4* yet, so I guess that's nice.
3* Stahl: Lots of this guy,
3* Olivia: Guess I'll check the boon/bane later to see if it's better than what I have.
4* Maria: I wonder if they'll ever patch the staffbots so they aren't just dead weight?
5* Azura: Guess I got pretty lucky in the end. Unfortunately for me the universe balanced itself out by giving me +HP, -SPD on her, which I'm pretty sure is like the worst possible combination.

I also hit 201 characters so I sacrificed one of my Corrin Fs to give Azura Hone Attack. Guess I should take some time out some day to tidy up my roster.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 09, 2017, 06:20:12 AM
I don't know how I managed to do it, but I somehow managed to buttdial myself 300 Platinum Points worth of Universal Crystals....
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on May 10, 2017, 12:41:38 AM
I started playing around with skill inheritance a lot more and soon realized just how expensive skills end up being. Ended up using that Klein I drew a few days back to give Reinhardt Death Blow, and I spent feathers to get some units up to 4* so they could start giving away their level 3 skills.

The 3 main characters might end up being a good investment of feathers after all given that it seems one of them will always be in the Arena bonus roster (they should probably add some way to get them +levels though). With Anna being in the Arena rotation this week, I gave her Reposition, Fury 3, Threaten Def 3, and Desperation 3. Managed to get her those first 3 but don't have the points to learn the last one there. Not too big a deal since Vantage will serve her well for the moment. I guess I should replace Astra on her as well since it takes way too long to charge and she has paper thin armor.

Not entirely sure how I should build Sharena and Alfonse, but they're lower priority than Anna for me because I really don't have any good Greens.

I'm not sure if I should invest into Roy either. I do have another 4* Roy (who has +DEF -RES which is a lot better than the shitty +DEF -SPD my 5* has) so if I upgrade that means I can get a +1 on him, as opposed to my other 5* Reds. That's putting down a lot of feathers though, and I'm thinking since Reinhardt seems to be my star player I should build a Horse Emblem team, in which case I should probably grind up all those Cecilias I have. I'm guessing Eldigan is the common choice for Red on horse teams, but I don't have him and could instead invest in the mass of Eliwoods I have or one of the Xanders I just got from the hero battles.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 10, 2017, 01:15:02 PM
I have 20 orbs. Last time my rabbit was sick, Fire Emblem Heroes gave me two 5*s. Poor Sen passed away on Monday, so I think I deserve something even better.

Ike Banner. Here we go.

Three colorless and two blue. That's just... No.

I'm just going to get one blue... and it's a 3* Donnel. Great. Just what I wanted...

Good thing I still have a few more days to collect orbs and try again.

BTW It's totally lame that Soren isn't in the next voting gauntlet.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on May 10, 2017, 02:10:18 PM
Poor Sen passed away on Monday

*bro hug*  :(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 10, 2017, 04:00:39 PM
Poor Sen passed away on Monday

*bro hug*  :(

Thanks.

Now, if FE Heroes would give me a Soren in honour of Senka, that'd be great. Oh, and since Soren would just be sad without his boyfriend, I'd like an Ike as well. That's not too much to ask for, is it?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 11, 2017, 06:51:52 PM
So who is everyone planning on supporting in the next Voting Gauntlet. I believe I have already said I am starting with Julia (and I will be putting Reinhardt as the head of my defense team for the Gauntlet).

Now, if FE Heroes would give me a Soren in honour of Senka, that'd be great. Oh, and since Soren would just be sad without his boyfriend, I'd like an Ike as well. That's not too much to ask for, is it?
Wait, what does Ike have to do with Soren's boyfriend? Ike's OTP is with Lethe. I mean Priam clearly has laguz blood because...of that hair? I dunno, but clearly that is the OTP. :p
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 11, 2017, 10:56:12 PM
Still going with Tharja. In part due to actually having a trained one (I don't have either a Julia or a Linde), but mostly because I still suspect that Waifu Emblem will be stronger with her than the others (though I suspect that the Awakening and Fates plebs are slowly but surely being weeded out in favor of diehards and whales, but I doubt that the prevailing winds will change for a good while yet).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 12, 2017, 03:17:17 AM
Wait, what does Ike have to do with Soren's boyfriend? Ike's OTP is with Lethe. I mean Priam clearly has laguz blood because...of that hair? I dunno, but clearly that is the OTP. :p

Oh, yeah, Lethe. Those two were so close, Ike left the continent with Soren as soon as he could.

Anyway, let's see what FEH has to offer today. I made another attempt yesterday and the game gave me a Laslow. Which was fine because I didn't have one yet. Then it gave me another one with worse stats and I gave up.

Oh well, I have 21 orbs now. Here we go! Three red, one blue, one colorless. Was one green orb really too much to ask for? Oh well, I bet Soren's going to be a 4* anyway...

3* Palla - Soon, I'll have too much skill fodder...

3* Hinata - You know what? This is okay. I didn't have one yet and I'm sure Takumi will be happy to see both his retainers (plus half a dozen extra Oboros) are here. Once Takumi finally arrives, that is...

3* Fir - Seriously? You know there are 3* red units I don't have yet, right? How about a Tiki?

For the next one, I'll have my rabbit boop the screen because I'm clearly not having any luck.

4* Gordin - Hey, new unit! Vastly inferiour to my +atk 5* Klein, but good job, Bun!

Now I'll try again...

4* FCorrin - You know what would be fun? Sending all my Corrins to the same world. I'm sure certain characters would be delighted.

Oh, and supporting Linde by the way. She'll probably lose to Tharja, so I plan on throwing all my flags at her and see what happens.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 12, 2017, 06:32:10 AM
Still going with Tharja. In part due to actually having a trained one (I don't have either a Julia or a Linde), but mostly because I still suspect that Waifu Emblem will be stronger with her than the others (though I suspect that the Awakening and Fates plebs are slowly but surely being weeded out in favor of diehards and whales, but I doubt that the prevailing winds will change for a good while yet).
Eh it is more efficient to have non-trained version of the character that you are supporting than a trained one. And in the grand scheme of things, you'll probably get more feathers backing the losers than the expected winner (unless you are planning on barely participating).

Oh and apparently Julia is off to a much better start than Sanaki which I was not expecting. I figured that the Sanaki/Julia match would be a close one with Sanaki pulling ahead eventually, but it seems Julia is starting with a nearly 2 to 1 vote advantage. Hurray for Julia probably advancing to round 2 to get trounced by Tharja! :(

Oh, yeah, Lethe. Those two were so close, Ike left the continent with Soren as soon as he could.
I have no idea of what you are talking about. Ike left by himself, came back, put a bun in Lethe's oven...and then probably left again because he can not stand still. Soren did not travel with him. :p
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 12, 2017, 06:42:42 AM
Still going with Tharja. In part due to actually having a trained one (I don't have either a Julia or a Linde), but mostly because I still suspect that Waifu Emblem will be stronger with her than the others (though I suspect that the Awakening and Fates plebs are slowly but surely being weeded out in favor of diehards and whales, but I doubt that the prevailing winds will change for a good while yet).
Eh it is more efficient to have non-trained version of the character that you are supporting than a trained one. And in the grand scheme of things, you'll probably get more feathers backing the losers than the expected winner (unless you are planning on barely participating).

Oh and apparently Julia is off to a much better start than Sanaki which I was not expecting. I figured that the Sanaki/Julia match would be a close one with Sanaki pulling ahead eventually, but it seems Julia is starting with a nearly 2 to 1 vote advantage. Hurray for Julia probably advancing to round 2 to get trounced by Tharja! :(

Looks like you won't have to worry about that. Linde is also trouncing Tharja 2:1 (it was only a matter of time for the Choose Your Legend bump to fail). So unless this gauntlet is getting Meta as fuck, I'll be walking home without many Feathers this time.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 12, 2017, 06:54:05 AM
I have no idea of what you are talking about. Ike left by himself, came back, put a bun in Lethe's oven...and then probably left again because he can not stand still. Soren did not travel with him. :p

Just because you don't like Ike's boyfriend does not mean you can pretend he wasn't there. That's just rude >:(



Looks like you won't have to worry about that. Linde is also trouncing Tharja 2:1 (it was only a matter of time for the Choose Your Legend bump to fail). So unless this gauntlet is getting Meta as fuck, I'll be walking home without many Feathers this time.

They seem to switch whenever people get a chance to catch up.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on May 12, 2017, 06:55:15 AM
Linde only managed to get in the lead thanks to the triple points after Tharja got an early lead, but now it's swung back to Tharja again. It'll probably swing back again since Linde is getting the 3x multiplier again but overall things are looking better for Tharja. At least it looks like people will need to actually play the game to win this time around.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 12, 2017, 07:24:02 AM
Linde only managed to get in the lead thanks to the triple points after Tharja got an early lead, but now it's swung back to Tharja again. It'll probably swing back again since Linde is getting the 3x multiplier again but overall things are looking better for Tharja. At least it looks like people will need to actually play the game to win this time around.
Same thing seems to have happened to Julia.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 12, 2017, 07:40:52 AM
In other news, now that I have set my awesome, awesome Klein as the leader, I'm getting a lot of friend requests. I'm still upset I don't have a Takumi (yet), but Klein is great to have around, especially during this gauntlet.

In other other news, have you guys seen the new Echoes units? Genny is the saviour of all healers thanks to a B skill that lets them do normal damage. No more 1/2 crap, just Lucius finally getting a chance to be the unit he was supposed to be.

Edit: No, wait! Elise. With Wrathful Staff. In a Horse Emblem team.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on May 12, 2017, 07:50:26 AM
Wrys meta obviously

Don't have Elise, but it seems like it'd be good for me to try for it since I have that 5* Priscilla and I'm trying to build Horse Emblem. Been training Eliwood for that too.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 12, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
Holy shit, my total rank is 31 (22 within the Linde army). I wonder how long that will last O_O
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 12, 2017, 05:26:42 PM
In other other news, have you guys seen the new Echoes units? Genny is the saviour of all healers thanks to a B skill that lets them do normal damage. No more 1/2 crap, just Lucius finally getting a chance to be the unit he was supposed to be.

Edit: No, wait! Elise. With Wrathful Staff. In a Horse Emblem team.
Saw that. Healers are still going to suck for various other reasons, but that is not going to stop me from getting two Gennys next banner (one for Lachesis and one for the inevitable Ethlyn mounted healer). So I'm going to be drawing colorless next banner. *shudders*
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 12, 2017, 09:36:41 PM
Linde only managed to get in the lead thanks to the triple points after Tharja got an early lead, but now it's swung back to Tharja again. It'll probably swing back again since Linde is getting the 3x multiplier again but overall things are looking better for Tharja. At least it looks like people will need to actually play the game to win this time around.
Same thing seems to have happened to Julia.

Knew it. Expect sandbagging through now to the run-up. The 3x points thing only really gave Snipers something to aim for.


Anyways, finally dealt with the last Mission for World of Radiance as well as finally obtaining that 4 star Ursula (for Blarwolf/Blue Tomebreaker inheritance) while also knocking out the GHeB Missions in two shots (once I learned that with Mounted Emblem buffs, my Ursula could both survive a round with Lunatic Ursula and counterkill her, damn thing went down hard).

Unfortunately, I really need to play with Inheritance to clear out enough space to pull again (or alternatively, Merge/Feather).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 12, 2017, 09:54:11 PM
I am annoyed because I missed the opportunity to gain the 3x bonus with Julia today. Had I refreshed my score data before starting the match, I probably could have gotten the 3x bonus twice today. >.>

Knew it. Expect sandbagging through now to the run-up. The 3x points thing only really gave Snipers something to aim for.
Actually I have been keeping an eye on the scores in the Julia/Sanaki match up and something different seems to be happening. There doesn't seem to be any intentional sandbagging, but instead as the matches have gone on, the score differential to trigger the 3x points has been increasing (presumably it is % based), so at this point Julia is currently 100 million ahead of Sanaki but Sanaki does not have the 3x bonus yet. Julia's lead has been growing every hour for a while now, so I feel like sooner or later the 3x bonus should trigger again but she might only be able to trigger it one more time.

It seems like the 3x bonus is going to be more of a thing in the early hours of the match than in the later portions of the match. And I'm not even sure that an hour of 3x bonus would be enough to catch Sanaki up at this point. She very well could end up getting enough point to leave 3x bonus range without getting a lead due to how large Julia's lead has become (and I assume the other matches are in similar positions right now).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 13, 2017, 05:36:24 AM
I am annoyed because I missed the opportunity to gain the 3x bonus with Julia today. Had I refreshed my score data before starting the match, I probably could have gotten the 3x bonus twice today. >.>

Knew it. Expect sandbagging through now to the run-up. The 3x points thing only really gave Snipers something to aim for.
Actually I have been keeping an eye on the scores in the Julia/Sanaki match up and something different seems to be happening. There doesn't seem to be any intentional sandbagging, but instead as the matches have gone on, the score differential to trigger the 3x points has been increasing (presumably it is % based), so at this point Julia is currently 100 million ahead of Sanaki but Sanaki does not have the 3x bonus yet. Julia's lead has been growing every hour for a while now, so I feel like sooner or later the 3x bonus should trigger again but she might only be able to trigger it one more time.

It seems like the 3x bonus is going to be more of a thing in the early hours of the match than in the later portions of the match. And I'm not even sure that an hour of 3x bonus would be enough to catch Sanaki up at this point. She very well could end up getting enough point to leave 3x bonus range without getting a lead due to how large Julia's lead has become (and I assume the other matches are in similar positions right now).

What I've been seeing of the Tharja vs Linde match is that Linde will occasionally catch up to Tharja due to the 3x stuff, but the Same threshold keeps her from really doing anything with it for any significant length of time. The only time she was beating the stocking off of Tharja was at the very beginning where the 3x points turned that around right quick, otherwise Linde's done nothing but run up to, and bounce off of Tharja's backside.

That said, if all of Linde's supporters catch a 3x Point wave near the end, an upset could be pulled, but the timing would need to be critical in that case.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 13, 2017, 06:50:09 AM
Yeah timing of the last 3x bonus is going to be key for any sort of upset. Unfortunately for anyone who wants to pull off an upset, there are too many people involved for it to be possible to realistically force a 3x bonus at the right time (which would basically require a large segment of supporters to hold off during the hours immediately before the final hour).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 13, 2017, 04:30:49 PM
Yeah timing of the last 3x bonus is going to be key for any sort of upset. Unfortunately for anyone who wants to pull off an upset, there are too many people involved for it to be possible to realistically force a 3x bonus at the right time (which would basically require a large segment of supporters to hold off during the hours immediately before the final hour).

Wouldn't really matter anyways because of that Same Buffer (at this point it takes like a full 5 Mil points for either team Linde or team Tharja to be considered Stronger/Weaker than the other).

Thinking about it, it seems that the 3x Multiplier only really helps the teams that were otherwise likely to get completely dominated (i.e. Male Robin and Henry) or actual tight races (Julia vs Sanaki). Tharja for instance hasn't had the Multiplier since the start whereas Linde had the multiplier multiple times and yet still hasn't actually been able to pull ahead of Tharja due to the Same Buffer knocking the wind out of her sails every time. It's let her tread water, but it hasn't actually produced the upsets that I was worried about.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 13, 2017, 08:17:47 PM
I think you are missing some zeroes there as I'm pretty sure that Tharja/Linde has more votes than Julia/Sanaki and Julia and Sanaki are currenly considered to be the same with Julia ahead by 218 million. So 5 million should be far less than is necessary for stronger/weaker to trigger.

And honestly I am kind of disappointed in how the 3x bonus has ended up playing out. I'd actually like it to produce some upsets, but it seems like it is impossible for an upset to occur under these conditions without getting a quarter of the playerbase to coordinate to create the perfect conditions. I suppose I should be glad that Julia probably can't be upset in the last hour, but that also means there is next to no chance she advances to the finals. >.>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 14, 2017, 05:24:14 AM
It's a shame Linde didn't win, but I got an awesome ranking so... yay! Shooting for that 3x bonus is really working out with me.

With

(http://wikikids.nl/images/thumb/f/f5/Winterlinde.jpg/200px-Winterlinde.jpg)

burnt to ashes by a stalking stripper, I moved on to supporting

(http://www.vogelvisie.nl/foto/roodborst.jpg)

which may have been a mistake. Unlike Leo he's not exactly husbando material, but he's probably the more popular character, so... yeah. I guess I'll save some flags for when Tharja starts her final murder spree.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 15, 2017, 06:33:52 AM
Ah I am swimming in points from having backed Julia. I'll rank poorly in the final round, but I should rank well in the cumulative. A shame Julia will not be able to win the whole thing though (not that I ever thought she could). :(

But that's not why I'm posting right now. No instead Live Pull time! Going for focus characters on red and colorless today. No non-focus characters I need. So let's see what I get!

2 red, 2 blue, and 1 colorless

3* Hana- Why did they give you a two line intro for summoning, it is annoying!
3* Matthew
4* Lon'qu
4* Corrin
4* Florina

So meh all around.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on May 15, 2017, 09:12:08 AM
So I guess backing the obvious winner early on is going to leave me with a lower cumulative score. Because Tharja doesn't fall into the Losing threshold often enough, it means a lot of my flags are going to be spent without the 3x multiplier. Certainly something to think about the next time around.

Started building Horse Emblem team, and I 5*'d an Eliwood. He has neutral stats across the board, but none of my other Eliwoods have +ATK which is what I'm trying to get. Given the way Merging works though, it seems I'm fine investing in a unit now and just waiting until I roll the boon I want, then merging them together and I'll be able to keep all my inherited skills and + levels.

Gave Eliwood Swap, Swordbreaker and Iceberg, and gave Priscilla Hone Cavalry. My fourth slot will probably be Cecilia, and I guess it's best if I gave her Fortify Cavalry. Not sure if I should spend the points to make Eliwood learn Ward Cavalry or inherit him something else- I'm guessing Goad would be ideal but that would mean I'd have to pull another Reinhardt, and if I did that I'd use him for merging.

Anyway I'm gonna need Genny's skill for Priscilla, so time to cross my fingers and draw.

1 Red, 2 Blue, 1 Green, 1 Colorless.

4* Eirika: Already had that 5*, but I guess I'll check the boon on her later.
3* Florina: I wish she at least had some good skills to inherit.
4* Peri: Well, I killed the only one I had earlier to give Threaten DEF to Anna, so nice to refill I guess.
3* Beruka: You ain't Hector, get out of my face.
4* Matthew: Well, his skills are decent at least.

1 Red, 3 Blue, 1 Green. Would've been a lot nicer to get this mix on another focus. Eh, whatever.

3* Sophia: Prophesize a good draw for me please.
3* Odin: Well, he has Moonbow at least.
3* Oboro: Lots of 3*s this time.
5* Mae: Wrong focus character. Hurray, I get to train blue tomes faster...pretty sure that's like the rarest thing in this game.
3* Bartre: Really wish he got Fury 3 at 4* instead of 5*.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 15, 2017, 09:38:50 AM
Cumulative Score only cares about your team. It measures how much you've contributed over all three matches.

Also that Mae will help you train up that new Odin of yours.

For what I went with Mounted Emblem, I went with Eliwood, Ursula, Gunter and either Cecilia, Frederick or Clarine. Of course, since I've finished the Monthly Quest, its time to get my Flier or Infantry Team back up and running again.

That said, while I have enough Orbs to pull three full times, I only have enough space for one round of pulls. 2 Colorless and 1 of each other Color: 3 star Stahl, 3 star Oboro, 3 star Beruka, 4 star Rebecca, 3 star Felicia.

Other than the Rebecca, that was pure swill.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on May 16, 2017, 06:34:55 AM
Tried pulling again. Got 2 Colorless but no luck. 3* Olivia, 3* Eliwood, 4* Cordelia, 4* Setsuna, 3* Saizo. Cordelia's new for me though- too bad Galeforce kinda sucks in this game.

I also sent a bunch of Wrys...es home since I'm out of space.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 16, 2017, 11:21:19 AM
I told myself I'd save up for a really awesome focus, but I just couldn't resist. I'm trying my luck at Celica's focus because who cares like 80% of my 5*s are mages?

Stahl 3* - Stahl, no... Atleast give up your spot for Tiki. I don't have one of those yet...

Cecilia 4* - Correct letters, wrong name. Erh... maybe she has better stats than my current 4* one?

Barst 3* - Great, one of the few green units I do not want.

Sakura 5* - Not the healer or Hoshido royal I was looking for, but okay. I didn't have one yet. ... Takumi, your adorable sister is here! She wants you to teach her archery! You better get your ass summoned soon or she's going to be really disappointed!

Felicia 3* - I'm sorry, Sakura... Just blame this worthless Felicia, okay?

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on May 16, 2017, 02:47:33 PM
Alright, 40 Orbs, time to do a couple live pulls!

First pull: 1 Blue, 4 Null!  WTH!?

1. 3* Shanna - dupe

2. 3* Lissa - dupe

3. 4* Gaius - dupe

4. 4* Clarine - dupe

5. 4* Gordin - dupe

At least they weren't all 3*.

NEXT!
2 Red, 3 Colorless.  *sigh*

1. 4* Lucius - an androgynous healer!  Alrighty.

2. 3* Saizo - hey, a new Fates character! Cool.  Love this quote: "I never get tired. So don't insult me with coffee or tea!  Or candy.  Never candy."  Sounds like Saizo is not a fan of Gaius.  :P

3. 3* Azama - dupe

4. 4* Olivia - kill me now

5. 3* Stahl - dupe

Well, all around, that was a massive waste of 40 Orbs.  Excellent.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 16, 2017, 05:58:57 PM
2. 3* Saizo - hey, a new Fates character! Cool.  Love this quote: "I never get tired. So don't insult me with coffee or tea!  Or candy.  Never candy."  Sounds like Saizo is not a fan of Gaius.  :P
Or his son notGaius.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 17, 2017, 01:48:28 AM
You know what's great about having terrible nightmares and waking up 4-5 times a night? You get to grab at 3x mulitplier at one in the morning :D

(Sadly, those 66000 points did not help me forget the image of sand merged with bodies, nothing having a beginning or end. I should not have stared into that abyss...)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on May 17, 2017, 10:11:52 AM
I uninstalled this.  Finally hit that point that I reach in every F2P game ever where it all felt really pointless.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 18, 2017, 04:40:59 AM
I kind of like how insignificant and pointless it is. Normally, when I try to scratch that SRPG itch, I play through a 30+ hour game (or hope a new Mercenaries Saga or something was released). Now I can just play a bit during breaks, not having to worry about completion and stuff like that while still enjoying some challenges.

What sucks, though, is that I've reached that point where I have a small army of L40 units and am prepared for most challenges. That leaves a lot of stamina for... training even more? At the same time I'll probably be stuck at arena rank 15-16 for a long time, because I simply don't have most of the characters that are considered fundamental to reaching the highest ranks. Well, I have Reinhardt. My -atk Reinhardt... ... Yeah, that's just not going to work.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 18, 2017, 06:40:23 AM
I kind of like how insignificant and pointless it is. Normally, when I try to scratch that SRPG itch, I play through a 30+ hour game (or hope a new Mercenaries Saga or something was released). Now I can just play a bit during breaks, not having to worry about completion and stuff like that while still enjoying some challenges.

What sucks, though, is that I've reached that point where I have a small army of L40 units and am prepared for most challenges. That leaves a lot of stamina for... training even more? At the same time I'll probably be stuck at arena rank 15-16 for a long time, because I simply don't have most of the characters that are considered fundamental to reaching the highest ranks. Well, I have Reinhardt. My -atk Reinhardt... ... Yeah, that's just not going to work.

There are ways around having -Atk in certain cases (Reinhardt is easier to fix than most due to hitting Res versus Def and just being able to delete units in general) with things like Threaten Def/Res, Dancing, Buffs (especially the Calvary ones which grant +6 Atk/Spd or Def/Res on top of +4 Atk/Spd or Def/Res Auras, unit type Auras typically affect 2 squares and all Auras stack as well).

Its when you get into fringe cases like Setsuna where units have one job and live & die by their Atk stat.


Also, not surprised that Tharja won the VG. Waifu Emblem strikes again. I was, however, surprised at just how long it took the meta to figure out how to sandbag effectively enough to allow for more than one x3 score phase for Tharja's last round against Robin(M).


Anyways, I managed to clear enough space to pull again so lets see what I'll get this time. 2 Reds, 2 Greens, 1 Colorless, Fuck, no Blues for mai bae Mae. I pulled a 4 star Hana, 4 star Hinata (and there goes Celica too dammit), 5 star Boey (great, the worst of the Focus; there goes my multiplier, grumble grumble), 4 star Bartre (didn't I just Merged your ass?) and 5 star Kagero (well that's one way to turn things around).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 18, 2017, 07:55:32 AM
There are ways around having -Atk in certain cases (Reinhardt is easier to fix than most due to hitting Res versus Def and just being able to delete units in general) with things like Threaten Def/Res, Dancing, Buffs (especially the Calvary ones which grant +6 Atk/Spd or Def/Res on top of +4 Atk/Spd or Def/Res Auras, unit type Auras typically affect 2 squares and all Auras stack as well).

True, if you stack enough buffs and debuffs, that bane is less of a problem, but I've seen plenty of cases in which that -3 atk made the difference between life and death. That's why mine is kind of warming the bench now that I have Linde.

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Its when you get into fringe cases like Setsuna where units have one job and live & die by their Atk stat.

My only 4* Setsuna happens to be +atk, -hp and I trained her up to L40 quite easily (by picking maps with squishy enemies). Anything less would have been a problem though.


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Also, not surprised that Tharja won the VG. Waifu Emblem strikes again. I was, however, surprised at just how long it took the meta to figure out how to sandbag effectively enough to allow for more than one x3 score phase for Tharja's last round against Robin(M).

I think the main problem was that many people had saved up way too many flags in the hopes of getting 3x every other hour or so and ended up spending them throughout the final day without getting the bonus, leading to Robin falling behind slower than neccessary. (
The whole thing reminded me of the second round of Liar Game, where you have to belong to the minority to win.)

Oh well, many Robin supporters did 'win' in the end by getting a high cumulative rank (1808 for me). Strategy worked. ... Okay, and Tharja won-won through the power of boobs, but atleast the people who did try to play smart had a chance to get something out of that victory as well.

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Anyways, I managed to clear enough space to pull again so lets see what I'll get this time. 2 Reds, 2 Greens, 1 Colorless, Fuck, no Blues for mai bae Mae. I pulled a 4 star Hana, 4 star Hinata (and there goes Celica too dammit), 5 star Boey (great, the worst of the Focus; there goes my multiplier, grumble grumble), 4 star Bartre (didn't I just Merged your ass?) and 5 star Kagero (well that's one way to turn things around).

Hey, you got two useful/interesting five stars and those 4*s have some pretty good skills to pass on. All things considered, that's really good.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on May 19, 2017, 05:55:43 AM
Still working on the armor quest. Currently at 7/15. It's completely down to luck if I get a map that doesn't screw my crappy armor team.

Free orbs whee, so drawing time.

4 Red 1 Colorless. Got a 3* Saizo and noped the fuck out of there.

Trying again, got 2 Red, 1 Green, 2 Colorless and...

(https://i.imgur.com/e5qylLL.png)

Well. Guess I stole all you guys' rolls.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 19, 2017, 06:27:26 AM
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Also, not surprised that Tharja won the VG. Waifu Emblem strikes again. I was, however, surprised at just how long it took the meta to figure out how to sandbag effectively enough to allow for more than one x3 score phase for Tharja's last round against Robin(M).

I think the main problem was that many people had saved up way too many flags in the hopes of getting 3x every other hour or so and ended up spending them throughout the final day without getting the bonus, leading to Robin falling behind slower than neccessary. (
The whole thing reminded me of the second round of Liar Game, where you have to belong to the minority to win.)

Oh well, many Robin supporters did 'win' in the end by getting a high cumulative rank (1808 for me). Strategy worked. ... Okay, and Tharja won-won through the power of boobs, but atleast the people who did try to play smart had a chance to get something out of that victory as well.

That's why I try to gun for 2nd round scoring. You will always have people who'll spend all of their Feathers on the first round for a chance at the high score there and get slowly left behind on rounds 2 & 3, and you'll always have people who'll hoard every Battle Flag until the final round where they'll burn off their lower multipliers and then tread water on the freebie 1x until their team triggers the 3x multiplier where they dump their 400 Flags and then wait to do it again or until they can continuously burn 200 Flags per battle and only run out within the last hour or so of the Gauntlet. Doing the latter of these will only net you bare participation awards for the first two rounds and you still might not come out at or near the top, while doing the former can lead to instances where you'll be unable to take advantage of the multipliers that show up early on next round (and your score steadily drops off anyways). By going heavy on round two, you'll gain a decent whack of feathers for rounds 1 & 3 and only a small number of players will be willing to sandbag round 1 just to dump on round 2 (the rewards are greater on round 3 than in either rounds 1 or 2), plus if your team still loses, then you'll definitely earn a solid whack of Feathers from the experience.


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Anyways, I managed to clear enough space to pull again so lets see what I'll get this time. 2 Reds, 2 Greens, 1 Colorless, Fuck, no Blues for mai bae Mae. I pulled a 4 star Hana, 4 star Hinata (and there goes Celica too dammit), 5 star Boey (great, the worst of the Focus; there goes my multiplier, grumble grumble), 4 star Bartre (didn't I just Merged your ass?) and 5 star Kagero (well that's one way to turn things around).

Hey, you got two useful/interesting five stars and those 4*s have some pretty good skills to pass on. All things considered, that's really good.

Yeah, I'm not actually complaining as that is actually a fantastic pull (a 4 star Effie or Sheena would've made it fucking amazing since I still need better Armors than a level 20 5 star Zephiel). It doesn't help that I really haven't had the time to really sit down with this game and go through all the things I need to do (I'm still on 3/15 for the 4 Armors Quest and have 2 more Hard Mode Defense Maps to complete, let alone fulfill their Quest Conditions, I've got two reward characters from the Seals Missions I've yet to pick up (not earned, picked up, my fountain glows gold with a 2 overhead and I can't do anything about it right now), Lloyd just showed up (though thankfully, two of his Focus guys are level 40 Five Stars on my team so training is no issue), I still haven't achieved a satisfactory score in the Arena, I have 5 stars I still need to finish training, and I still need to cull the chaff by Merging or Inheritance).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on May 19, 2017, 06:33:31 PM
[member=99]Hathen[/member] Amazing! Congrats!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 19, 2017, 09:16:33 PM
So I'm sure everyone knows this by now, but the new GHB is up. It is for Lloyd from FE7. He has a meh proficiency weapon...and one of the worst portraits in the game to date. So yay?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 20, 2017, 02:43:45 AM
Atleast the battle was easy. Lunatic only took me two tries. (But my team was a little fancy: Klein, Nowi, Fae, Olivia. I'm not doing any spectacular free 3* unit things.)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on May 20, 2017, 10:27:31 AM
It was a massive pain, but I actually managed to get 15 deathless armor wins in the Tenth Stratum using 4* Zephiel/4* Gwen/3* Zephiel/3* Gwen. Pretty much the only maps I could clear were ones containing only swords and axes, and generally if any of them had armorslayer variants I was screwed.

I really hope I can get another 20 orbs before the Lloyd focus goes away. Though I doubt I'll be drawing anything good for a while after that last one.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on May 22, 2017, 05:56:18 PM
Saw Azura is in the Weapon Triangle focus. I contemplated not pulling, because I already threw a lot of my Orbs trying to get her in Hero Fest. In the end I decided to just do a single summon and just open the blue ones. I had good luck today. :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 24, 2017, 03:37:37 AM
Finally, some new maps to earn orbs... This game really needs daily free orbs or some sort of daily challenge to earn an orb or two.

Anyway, let's see how amazing my luck is this time! I'm going for the Battling Lloyd banner, because I'd love to have a Ninian and wouldn't mind any of the other featured heroes. Besides, instead of another Klein to feed to my Klein (or Reinhardt), I'll probably get Takumi. That's how it works for me.

4* Laslow - Why are you stalking me?! First, you don't show up for months and months and not it's every summon session on average!

4* Bartre - Great, another one of the few green units I do not want. You know what would have been nice? Nino, Hawkeye, Soren, Titania, Raven... I'm not asking for much! (Hector...)

5* Sanaki - See! Totally out of focus, totally mine!

3* Oboro - As soon as I saw it was a 3*, I knew it was Oboro...

Which means the next one is her crush! :D

4* Kagero - Oboro likes boobs now.

... It's kind of amazing that out of all the possible 5* red units, I managed to pull yet another mage. That makes the only non-magic unit, out of the nine 5*s I pulled, Alm.

Edit: ... And I'm done with the new content :/
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on May 25, 2017, 08:12:18 AM
As I expected, the universe wanted to rebalance itself after my last draw. After sending home some Lissas and Berukas, I pulled from the Lloyd focus and got myself another 3* Beruka and 3* Lissa. Yay free feathers?

Also got a 3* Robin, 3* Wrys and a 4* Reinhardt. The cutscene for a 3* unit was cute. The Reinhardt is -atk +spd so he's not going to be replacing the one I have, but I dunno if I should drop the 20k feathers to +1 my Reinhardt yet or get a 5* Cecilia first.

Speaking of spd boons, the game doesn't seem to like giving it to me on heroes who'd actually like it. All the ones I've drawn that'd like it got -spd instead. My Roy, Eirika, Corrin and Azura are all -spd and the Celica and Mae I draw earlier were both -spd too. Haven't checked the Genny I drew because I'm still torn on whether to sacrifice her to buff my Priscilla.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 26, 2017, 09:03:55 AM
Welp, I've got a new problem.

After burning 3 Light's Blessings getting through that last Defensive Map Mission, and two more Inheritance/Merge fodder to make space for Lloyd, my plan was to focus on burning through more of my standing unit backlog until I could clear enough space for more Echoes banner draws (or at least until I pulled Mae). But now, there's yet another mission throwing me units (granted its a spare Narcian, but the guy's only gonna be a 2 star, and I still have the Seals Mission recruits to go) and the next seasonal Banner is nearly upon us and I've got enough Orbs to draw 3 more times currently (plus a bunch of other Orbs still unclaimed that could allow me a 4th set of pulls easily), but I have no way to use them, and I've already burned my Banner luck on pulling Boey (and a 5 star Kagero with the same IVs as my previous one), plus I have no idea what the Bride reclasses are gonna look like. Fuck. (#firstworldproblems, #FEHproblems, #gettinwhaled, #blehblehbleh)


Edit: Manged enough space for a pull. Got a 4 star Jagen for fusion fodder. The rest was trash (3 star Berukas and Azamas are useless).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 26, 2017, 06:56:47 PM
plus I have no idea what the Bride reclasses are gonna look like. Fuck.
Well I have sort of good news for you. We got silhouettes of two of them.

https://twitter.com/FEHeroes_News/status/867946171527962624

The common belief is that the one on the left is Lyn (although I personally think Tiki is a possibility too). One on the right has less agreement. Only thing for sure about her is that she has long hair as you can see a small wisp of hair on the left side about halfway up her chest. Eirika and Elise (with her hair straightened?) are probably the most popular answers, but I've seen Tharja thrown around (and am personally hoping for Julia although that seems a long shot).

Will be interesting to see what those weapons are though. A giant spoon? A giant tulip?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 27, 2017, 06:15:04 PM
You really shouldn't always take my posts at absolute face value (I know about Lyn and ?????, and their Bride reclass, but what I'm implying, in regards to my earlier post, is whether or not they wear it as well as Bunny Lucina and Camilla versus Dork Prince Bunny Xander (and depending on the artist, they could end up looking like poor derpface Lloyd instead))

Also, found out something rather interesting today. Apparently, when you Merge units, you don't just get whatever skills they've Inherited, but also what they learned naturally and skills that they've Inherited but have yet to learn. This can be a massive SP saver in the long run if you do it right as well as making IV management slightly easier/more efficient (I just wish it didn't cost me 20k Feathers to figure this out, at least my Level 40+1 5 star Cordelia will serve as a painful reminder of this).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on May 29, 2017, 10:01:07 AM
Ended up 5*ing a Cecilia and sacrificing my Genny to supercharge my Priscilla. My horse emblem team is ready to go, albeit without ideal boons on any of them, but solving that is just up to the luck of the draw. Eliwood's also still missing lots of skills. Not sure if he was a good investment in retrospect since Xander seems to be a lot better, but whatever, I'll stick to my fanboy senses.

With some luck I might rank up in the Arena this week (didn't get it last week). I'm currently Tier 16 so it'll be another week before I know if I have the units to make it to the four orb tiers.

Also I'm done with every single quest at the moment so all I have to do is grind Hero Merit (or not play the game I suppose).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 29, 2017, 04:02:35 PM
Ended up 5*ing a Cecilia and sacrificing my Genny to supercharge my Priscilla. My horse emblem team is ready to go, albeit without ideal boons on any of them, but solving that is just up to the luck of the draw. Eliwood's also still missing lots of skills. Not sure if he was a good investment in retrospect since Xander seems to be a lot better, but whatever, I'll stick to my fanboy senses.

With some luck I might rank up in the Arena this week (didn't get it last week). I'm currently Tier 16 so it'll be another week before I know if I have the units to make it to the four orb tiers.

Also I'm done with every single quest at the moment so all I have to do is grind Hero Merit (or not play the game I suppose).

For mounted Swords both Eliwood and Xander work very well since both have their own things going for them (Xander is a Tank with built in Distant Counter so he hits hard and can wreck any non-blue/magic using chump to come his way, though any magic damage will ruin his day; Eliwood is more of a Res-Tank with built in Death Blow 2 so he just hits really fucking hard, plus he rocks one of the Mounted Emblem buffs for added Support utility, his physical Def is rather lacking though).


Anyways, I cleared enough room for another pull and got a 4 star Gordin for my troubles (on top of another 3 star Gordin, a 3 star Donnel, a 3 star Sophia, and hell even a 3 star Gwendolyn who's far too little, too late to matter). I really should just stop and wait for the Wedding Banner, but dammit, I still really want Celica and/or Mae (even though I'm pretty sure I've used my luck for the month pulling Boey and Kagero on the same draw).

I still wicked behind on my quest completion though since I'm still fighting with the Rite of Shadow quests (two to go), I haven't even touched Narcian's reGHeB or Kozuki Emblem, I still need to train Barst enough to fight Level 35+ dudes, and I need to win against the 10th Stratum 10 more times with my Armor Emblem.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on May 29, 2017, 06:07:10 PM
The Kozuki quests aren't too hard (The 1st Trial actually took me the most attempts), and Narcian was much easier this time around with an improved roster of characters to work with. I skipped the "Kill Narcian Lv35 with a Narcian" quest, because it seems like too much effort for 1 Orb. :P

Brides should be out tomorrow, but I don't think I'll be pulling. Interested in Caeda and Lin, but the latter is a healer and I'm not sure I want to burn Orbs trying to get the former.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 29, 2017, 06:51:39 PM
Brides should be out tomorrow, but I don't think I'll be pulling. Interested in Caeda and Lin, but the latter is a healer and I'm not sure I want to burn Orbs trying to get the former.
Oh info on the bridal banner is out? Well let's see how bad this one will be hurting my wallet *checks the interwebs*.....huh. I actually do not feel like drawing on this one. I'm kind of shocked. Bridal event waifus feels like it should be so easy that it Is just printing money, but they actually managed to fuck it up. Good job there IS. I guess I wouldn't mind a Bridal Lyn, but that is the only one of the slightest interest. Charlotte I actively dislike (and I am really surprised to see her since she was ranked 22nd in Fates characters and 72nd overal). Caeda I have absolutely no interest in (again kind of surprised to see her since she was ranked 51st overall) . Cordelia is alright I guess?

I'll probably do a live pull and then a few targeted pulls on colorless, but I'm not going to buy any orbs over this. Hurray for my wallet!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on May 29, 2017, 07:59:12 PM
[member=4534]Ranadiel[/member] Yeah, I can't believe how much they messed it up; I've seen a lot of people talking about skipping the banner. Bride Lyn was a good call character-wise, but they should have made her anything other than a healer. I'm really curious as to what their logic was for these four characters.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 29, 2017, 08:16:47 PM
I haven't seen the designs yet, but from what I've seen of the abilities, its looking like they're thinking about trying to make Staves relevant to the Meta (which translates into "make Staffbot Generics even bigger assholes to deal with").

Also the game's down for maintenance again (FUCK!).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 29, 2017, 09:04:54 PM
[member=4534]Ranadiel[/member] Yeah, I can't believe how much they messed it up; I've seen a lot of people talking about skipping the banner. Bride Lyn was a good call character-wise, but they should have made her anything other than a healer. I'm really curious as to what their logic was for these four characters.
Well Lyn is there because popularity. Caede is there because she is the first canon pairing (despite no one really liking her). Cordelia might be popularity? She is in the top ten for female characters. Charlotte is there because her whole gimmick was hooking up with guys? They really should have given her slot to someone else.

Oh well I guess I shouldn't complain too much about them saving me money.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on May 30, 2017, 12:34:08 AM
[member=4534]Ranadiel[/member] Yeah, I can't believe how much they messed it up; I've seen a lot of people talking about skipping the banner. Bride Lyn was a good call character-wise, but they should have made her anything other than a healer. I'm really curious as to what their logic was for these four characters.
Well Lyn is there because popularity. Caede is there because she is the first canon pairing (despite no one really liking her). Cordelia might be popularity? She is in the top ten for female characters. Charlotte is there because her whole gimmick was hooking up with guys? They really should have given her slot to someone else.

Oh well I guess I shouldn't complain too much about them saving me money.

Caeda actually does have some appeal if you consider the fact that for a typical first girl/princess archetype from the NES era, she was surprisingly capable in a combat/non-magic/non-healer role. Granted her Strength and Defense growths sucked, but caps were low, stat boosters were hella powerful (Speedwings gave +6 Speed and Dragonshields gave +4 Defense among other things, and you could buy as many as you could afford by the end) and promoting into a Dragon Knight helped that as well. Plus she makes Harem/Waifu runs of Shadow Dragon doable right out of the gate (versus FE7 where you kinda had to pull some serious bullshit to pull it off in Eliwood's mode and Hector's mode is impossible unless you mulligan the first couple of stages), and hell, she's even makes the cut in Mystery of the Emblem. Also the DS remakes gave her the Wing Spear, aka the Win Spear, aka one of the most hilariously broken weapons in the series. Plus for Heroes, she's actually pretty useful for setting up Flier Emblem (though Palla's better and the other two are better still if they weren't 5 star only). Plus plus, she was in #TMS for whatever that's worth.

As for Charlotte, I can imagine that her appeal has been growing since Fates where she kinda didn't get a very good showing (she shows up late and underleveled in both routes that's she's available in, her PSkill gimmick was really difficult to ever really use, kinda excessive when you could, and didn't have the Royals to hang-off/bounce-off of). Since then, her Cipher showings have been a lot better to her since it better (re: actually) depicts her two defining features, wanting to marry into money (to the point of hauling some poor schmuck off under her arm like luggage, and in a wedding dress no less), and being crazy strong (and just kinda crazy in general).

Cordelia on the other hand is probably still recovering from Caeldori being kinda underwhelming as in Awakening, she was actually really popular there for having three of the best Classes a gen 1 non-Royal could have in Pegasus Knight, Mercenary and Dark Mage (though without statboosters she kinda sucked as a Dark Mage). You could easily reclass her into a Mercenary for Armsthrift, promote her to Hero or reclass her back to Pegasus Knight and then promote her, pick up Sol and Axebreaker if you stay the Hero, Bowbreaker as a Bow Knight, or pick up Galeforce and eventually Lancefaire by the endgame. She could even pick up Tomebreaker just for shits and giggles without having to get into Inheritance or anything. Severa never wants for Skills in Awakening.

As for Lyn, she's in Smash (as an Assist Trophy, which is actually kinda almost better than being playable since she won't be fighting for roster space like the other FE reps will for Smash 5). Nuff said.


Also by some miracle I finally figured out a winning strategy for those Rite of Darkness missions and they even got back from maintenance in time for me to act upon it (the solution was moar Dancers/Flier Emblem, especially for 11-3; helped that I finally had enough SP to get Cordelia onto the Galeforce).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on May 30, 2017, 05:48:12 AM
The bridal event is... definitely not for me. Some of the new skills seem nice, especially the ones on Lynn, but it's not like you get a great healer right of the box and the focus features two colourless characters, so good luck getting anything you actually want.

Oh well, atleast I'm getting orbs for a future focus. 9 orbs from the maps, 3 orbs from quests and a total of 14 free daily orbs.

IIRC dataminers found out Camus is going to be the next GHB. I hope he gets a good counter-banner. I'm hoping for a really good green unit. Hector would make sense, but I doubt they'll be that generous.

Speaking of Hector, my 5* Sanaki made it into my current arena team (Klein, Nowi, Olivia, Sanaki) and I haven't found a Hector yet she can't OHKO.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on May 30, 2017, 12:13:58 PM
Not too interested in the new waifu emblem, so I'm pulling from the Weapon Triangle focus.

2 Red, 1 Blue, 1 Green, 1 Colorless.

3* Tiki: Free feathers I guess?
4* Laslow: Didn't have a 4* of the guy so I guess there's that.
4* Subaki: Would be a lot nicer if he had Quick Riposte 3 as his 4* skill.
3* Arthur: HP+5 is totally a great skill.
4* Jeorge: I'll just add him to the pile.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on May 30, 2017, 06:14:47 PM
Alright time to do a live pull. I'm going to do four draws so I don't feel compelled to draw to clear my pity bonus. Preferring colorless, and if there are no colorless anything but blue. And if I somehow get five blue, I cry because I know the one I choose will be Charlotte (or all five of them are Charlotte).

First circle is 1 red, 1 blue, and 3 colorless. A good start.

3* Setsuna- Meh
4* Niles- Could I at least get someone with some useful skill? I know I am drawing colorless, but still
3* Felicia- I guess I had to get her to complete the Fates colorless trifecta?

I probably should stop here since I will feel compelled to draw all colorless and that could push me over five draws, but fuck it. This is for your entertainment.

Next circle is 2 red, 1 green, 1 blue, and 1 colorless. Perfect!

3* Niles- So whole thing was a waste of orbs. Yay! Although if I had gotten a bridal character, probably still would have been a waste of orbs. >.> Might do more draws, but that is it for the live draw.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Maxximum on May 31, 2017, 11:34:58 AM
I'm at the point where I have no incentive to play outside of logging in once in a while to nab the free orbs and do the occasional round of summons. Why they never implemented any real form of multiplayer is beyond me.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 01, 2017, 12:45:45 AM
After 6 Stamina Drinks with an hour and change left to go, I've finally cleared all of the impending Missions, including the Four Armors, the GHeB, and I even cashed in on the Seal Mission recruits with space to spare. Goddamn was May a bear. At least June should be less busy and easier to clear up.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 01, 2017, 06:42:46 AM
I usually finish the monthly quests (aside from the armour quests, because that's basically 'Do you have Hector? If so, here's your orb.') within the first week...

Anyway, I want to promote a character to 5*. These are my options:
-One of my Kageros (what's the best boon/worst bane?)
-Xander (I don't like his face, but I don't have any good non-magic cavalry units)
-Alphonse (so he can... kill Hectors slighty faster?)
-Anna (my only decent non-flying axe user)
It's hard to chose...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 01, 2017, 08:20:05 AM
I usually finish the monthly quests (aside from the armour quests, because that's basically 'Do you have Hector? If so, here's your orb.') within the first week...

Anyway, I want to promote a character to 5*. These are my options:
-One of my Kageros (what's the best boon/worst bane?)
-Xander (I don't like his face, but I don't have any good non-magic cavalry units)
-Alphonse (so he can... kill Hectors slighty faster?)
-Anna (my only decent non-flying axe user)
It's hard to chose...

Considering that you can pull a 5 star Kagero, I'd consider her to be the lowest priority of that list. My suggestion is to focus on Xander first, if for no other reason than to get ahead of his impending GHeB rematch missions (plus you'll have a Distant Counter user), then Anna because of your Axe deficit, then Alfonse and finally Kagero.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 01, 2017, 08:41:43 AM
you need to 5* oboro to act as a honeypot
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 01, 2017, 10:17:28 AM
I already have an overqualified 4* Oboro that helped me out with half of the of GHBs and many other challenging maps after skill inheritance became a thing. She helped earn a lot of orbs and if that's not enough for RNG gods to give me a Takumi, I don't know what is.

Besides, unlike Xander, my Oboro doesn't need that extra star to be useful. I'd be better of trying up another 4* with better stats and merge them to create the ultimate Oboro. ... And throw some extra Oboro's in there and make a 4* L40+6 Oboro. Technically stronger than a 5* but for just a fraction of the feathers.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 02, 2017, 04:24:04 AM
Summoning is fun so here we go. I'm a little afraid of getting another Fae, but whatever.

3* Lon'qu - Who wants vantage?

3* Hinata - Well, it's not another Oboro...

3* Gunter - If his stats are good, I might make him part of my budget horse emblem team featuring -atk Reinhardt and a random Cecilia.

3* Sully - Okay, this is starting to look really terrible.

4* Mae - That's better! Not that I need more mages, but it's a new character, so yay!

Next one. No green orbs, so no risk of Fae.

5* tiny Tiki - :D

4* Palla - Wow, unlike the other 8, this one is actually 4*!

4* Reinhardt - Nice! Let's see what his stats are! -atk, + def. That's... kind of not good. But he does have some good skills to pass on.

3* Gaius - Look who dropped by to ruin a perfectly good pull.

Okay, Takumi time!

4* Wrys - Eh... might as well make an awesome Sakura...





Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 02, 2017, 05:34:34 AM
Well, at least you got some pretty good skills (if you drop the feathers to 4* them that is). Vantage, Fury and Hone Cavalry, while Sully gives Draw Back and Swordbreaker 2. And no pull is complete without getting another Wrys to annoy you.

Back to working on that armor quest. I really hope if they plan on making this happen every month I'll pull an Effie or Hector sometime soon to save myself from torture. Guess I should 5* a Zephiel at some point too.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 02, 2017, 05:05:16 PM
Well, at least you got some pretty good skills (if you drop the feathers to 4* them that is). Vantage, Fury and Hone Cavalry, while Sully gives Draw Back and Swordbreaker 2. And no pull is complete without getting another Wrys to annoy you.

Back to working on that armor quest. I really hope if they plan on making this happen every month I'll pull an Effie or Hector sometime soon to save myself from torture. Guess I should 5* a Zephiel at some point too.

I'm of the opinion that 5 starring Zephiel is a must at this point just because you're guaranteed to have him, and your Armors will greatly appreciate a baked in Threaten Defense 2 to make your non-Hector/Effie Armors damage output suck less (even with Hone Armor, Gwendy, Draug and Sheena all have mediocre Atk and bad weapons), and your team will greatly appreciate a Red Armor that can actually do damage. Plus if you really want an Armor Emblem passive that Gwendy or Draug bring, Zephiel has the skill slot open and available for the Inheritance.


Also I'm pissed that the current GHeB focus is as good as it is while running concurrently with a limited edition focus. Unless I get super lucky, I don't have the kind of Orbs or space to pull for both.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 03, 2017, 12:26:20 AM
Feels good not caring about the waifu banner! I'm not planning on making a dragon team anytime soon either, so Triangle adept it is. +1ing my Cecilia or Azura would be nice.

1 Red, 1 Blue, 1 Green, 2 Colorless.

3* Palla: More Goad Fliers is always nice I guess.
3* Robin: Thanks for the cutscene again.
3* Arthur: HP+5, whee.
3* Clarine: They should've added Rutger to the game instead of you.
4* Serra: If they want staffbots to be good they should start by deleting all the old ones.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 03, 2017, 06:21:43 AM
Well, at least you got some pretty good skills (if you drop the feathers to 4* them that is). Vantage, Fury and Hone Cavalry, while Sully gives Draw Back and Swordbreaker 2. And no pull is complete without getting another Wrys to annoy you.
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Now that I think about it, Vantage and Fury are skills my future 5* Camus would love to have. Oh, and maybe Moonbow! It'll be a more long term project as I also want to save up feathers to 5* Zephiel, but the fodder will be put to good use.

As for Wrys, I sacrificed him to Sakura. Since I have several healers I actually like, I figured I might as well train them in case of arena bonuses. Sakura is currently a member of two training tower teams in order to support Xander, Camus, Mae and tiny Tiki as they train, and her hard work is very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 05, 2017, 12:12:01 PM
I kind of want an Azura and the green units aren't so bad either... But I can see this going terribly wrong...

First attempt: 4x red, 1 green.

That's the worst. I'll only get the green one.

3* Gunter - ...

Next one.

Two blue and one of every other colour. Good.

4* Reinhardt - Nice! I need one that's not -atk! ... This one is -atk! I don't know what I did to deserve this!

3* Odin - Come on... you could at least be 4*...

Okay, I guess I'll get the green one. I don't need a focus unit, just give me something that's not a duplicate piece of shit.

3* Bartre - You really went out of your way to disappoint, didn't you FE Heroes?

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 06, 2017, 12:19:55 PM
I ranked up in the Arena, whee. Dunno if I'll manage to rank up again this week but as long as I can stay in the 4 orb tiers I'm happy.

Also I'm 4/15 on the Armor Quest, generally only making attempts when there's only 3 enemies or nothing but Axes/Swords...or both, ideally. Already completed the Infantry, Flier and Cavalry quest while doing that. An Effie or Hector Focus would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 07, 2017, 11:36:35 PM
Decided that if I spent the time I've been using to decide what to do with all the trash in my barracks towards trying to up my rank in the arena towards the 4 Orb tiers, I'd be all the wealthier for it. So I've burned 2 Orbs to give my self 10 extra spaces in my Barracks. And between that, enough Cecilias to say "Screw it! Everybody's getting a Gronnraven!" and a few nips and tucks here and there, I had enough room to pull 4 times. So now Boey, Merric, Nino and Female Robin all have access to Rally Resistance, Escape Route 1 and Gronnraven, and I finally have enough space to burn my Orbs for 4 full pulls.

After burning those, I pulled a 4 star Nowi (new, though could be better), a 4 star Cain (Wings of Mercy fodder), 2 3 star Gwendolyns (because now I can't get enough Armors, and they're both +HP -Res to boot; "You're feather'd!"), a 4 star Barst (now that I finally got one, I'm getting more of them, too bad his stats sucked, Boey will appreciate Spur Atk 3), a 4 star Stahl (one of these days, I'm gonna figure out what to do with my 6 Stahls), a 5 star Ogma (with +Atk -Def traits, he now joins Cain in my Brave Sword+ users club (and if I 5 star Draug, I'll have the complete set, lofuckingl)), TWO WEDDING CORDELIAS!! (on the same goddamn pull no less; too bad they're both -Spd, opting for either +HP or +Def instead), and all the rest of the trash (some of which I burned to make room for these pulls).

All in all, not bad.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on June 08, 2017, 06:13:12 PM
So Tempest Trials exist now. And you need 50,000 points to get the top unique prize. I'm at, 3,426 right now....this is going to be a long two weeks.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on June 08, 2017, 07:34:02 PM
Yeah, so grindy. I mean, I shouldn't be surprised... but getting to 5* "Marth" or Quickened Pulse is going to get old real quickly...

Honestly, not sure if I even have the time to sink into either of those. I like the mode alright enough, even if it's not especially original, but it can also be kind of frustrating.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on June 08, 2017, 08:10:28 PM
Honestly getting 5* "Marth" hardly seems worth it when you can just promote 4* "Marth" and have a better unit. I mean I guess if you want to use "Marth" you could get a +1 "Marth," but that seems to be it for uses for the 5*. Only reason I am going to be getting 5* "Marth" is because I want Quickened Pulse, so I'll be earning it anyways.

But dear god running a 7 map run is time consuming. I've yet to lose, but I have had to go to my fourth team...and I was kind of shocked when that team did not get slaughtered.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on June 08, 2017, 08:36:35 PM
I mean, I have Lucina, so I don't want "Marth" for stats or anything. I just want "him" because:

[spoiler]Lucina is awesome[/spoiler]

But yeah, quickened Pulse is the primary target for me too.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on June 09, 2017, 01:29:20 AM
So I decided to pull for Lucina on the Focus banner. I already have one, but I was like "Why not pull to get a +1?" Dropped about 30 Orbs, but I got one! A good result. Even better, she's +SPD/-RES (My old one is +DEF/-RES).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 09, 2017, 02:15:19 AM
I am so, so, so glad I got that random Sanaki a while back. She's my only unit that can properly tank Veronica. Without her, I have to fall back on awkward tactics revolving around beating the shit out of her with strong red melee units.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 09, 2017, 08:07:06 AM
My big problem is the fact that due to the knockout mechanic, it pays to have multiple copies of certain units, ready and waiting at Level 40, which serves as an antithesis to the Inheritance + Merging shenanigans that I was just beginning to do to make room for more pulls and event characters.

I also don't like how much of a time, effort & stamina sink it is. Especially since we already have the Training Tower Missions, the Arena, and the GHeBs and their Refights (thank god Zephiel is ready to plug and play for this one). And god help us when the next Voting Gauntlet rears its ugly head.


And that's not even getting into the fact that E3 is right around the bloody corner and I still have FE:Echoes and BotW on the stove right now.


I am so, so, so glad I got that random Sanaki a while back. She's my only unit that can properly tank Veronica. Without her, I have to fall back on awkward tactics revolving around beating the shit out of her with strong red melee units.

Blarblade Ursula is making the whole proceeding largely a joke up until the last two rounds, where even she can't oneshot the enemies anymore.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on June 09, 2017, 08:03:02 PM
Ugh, I had my first loss today. And it was painful because I went through three teams (and honestly at least one of them was my stupid mistakes), but at the very end the last member of my fourth team got the last enemy down to 1 HP. 1 point of difference between victory and defeat!

Oh well, I got 4* "Marth" today. Which means I am now 1k points between rewards. Going to be loads of fun when I hit 10k and it goes up to 2k. >.>

My big problem is the fact that due to the knockout mechanic, it pays to have multiple copies of certain units, ready and waiting at Level 40, which serves as an antithesis to the Inheritance + Merging shenanigans that I was just beginning to do to make room for more pulls and event characters.
Eh I kind of like that aspect because it gives reason to my fairly deep reserves of characters.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 09, 2017, 10:10:04 PM
I've already lost quite a few times already experimenting with teams. 1.4x multiplier from a bonus character is really hard to pass up- I think it's dumb how not dying only gets you a 1.2x bonus, so some people actually just kamikaze their units so they can get a high time score. I only have 4* Nowi and Tharja to satisfy the bonus character score but I'm having a hard time making a team around them. For a while I was trying out Reinhardt/Priscilla/Cecilia/Tharja, but no buffs on Tharja make her blade tome pretty terrible. Now I'm trying out Tharja/Eirika/Reinhardt/Azura. I had a successful run but I don't know how consistent I can be with that.

The worst part is Veronica of course. She can single-handedly ruin entire runs for me. I guess it's cool there's some real challenge in this event but I really hate how they decided to release the Zephiel GHB alongside it.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 09, 2017, 10:33:28 PM
I've already lost quite a few times already experimenting with teams. 1.4x multiplier from a bonus character is really hard to pass up- I think it's dumb how not dying only gets you a 1.2x bonus, so some people actually just kamikaze their units so they can get a high time score. I only have 4* Nowi and Tharja to satisfy the bonus character score but I'm having a hard time making a team around them. For a while I was trying out Reinhardt/Priscilla/Cecilia/Tharja, but no buffs on Tharja make her blade tome pretty terrible. Now I'm trying out Tharja/Eirika/Reinhardt/Azura. I had a successful run but I don't know how consistent I can be with that.

The worst part is Veronica of course. She can single-handedly ruin entire runs for me. I guess it's cool there's some real challenge in this event but I really hate how they decided to release the Zephiel GHB alongside it.

You only need to run one Bonus Character to achieve the bonus requirement. S/He doesn't even need to survive till the end to get it.


My current Tempest strategy is to run the second hardest (Lunaticest?) difficulty using first a team of Tharja, Camilla, Ephraim, and Maria with Ephraim providing an Atk buff though his Prf, Maria providing a Res buff through her Skills, and Camilla providing a Rally Def buff, and when they fail (I've been able to run them until Maps 4 or 5), I swap out for Mounted Emblem to clean up (Life and Death Eliwood, Gunter, Blarblade Ursula and Fortify Cavalry Frederick). On a good run, I can get B ranks for both Time and Survival for about 450 points. Now if only I had the time to train my Cordelias or Kagero for maximum shenanigans....I suppose that's what the Normal tier Tempest Challenge is for.


And while the GHeB sucks, its so much better than a Voting Gauntlet running concurrently (that's six whole days that's gonna get pissed away either way).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on June 09, 2017, 10:42:39 PM
You only need to run one Bonus Character to achieve the bonus requirement. S/He doesn't even need to survive till the end to get it.
Thank god for that. I think I've only had 2 or 3 runs out of 11 or so runs where my first wave team didn't get wiped out at some point, and I don't think I have enough good units to keep the 1.4 bonus if I had to put one on every team.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on June 11, 2017, 09:22:42 PM
Okay, change of opinion: I hate Tempest Trials. I haven't had a gaming rage quit in nearly a decade, but I almost did with it today. Honestly, the grind just adds a layer of feeling super depressed when I think about how much more I have to do.

I think I'm just going to give up. It's not fun and I've had enough.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 12, 2017, 07:53:25 AM
I win decently often but I will say that if I didn't have Reinhardt I'd probably be really annoyed with this event. I do hate how grindy it is though, only at 25000 myself. I'll get 5* Notmarth without an issue and I'm pretty sure i can get Quickened Pulse if I keep at it, but I wouldn't mind all those free orbs at the top so I'll probably spend lots and lots of Stamina Potions on this. It's not like I was using them for anything else.

Had 40-some odd orbs saved up so I think I'll try to roll a Reinhardt from the new focus. Avoiding Red and Colorless. Guess I'll roll on Greens too while praying for a Hector.

Try #1: 2 Blue.
3* Corrin F: Hone attack for everyone.
3* Florina: There should be an event Florina where her attack is just dropping her Pegasus on someone.

Try #2: No blues but 3 green.
3* Arthur: Swap and Lancebreaker are nice I guess.
3* Cecilia: Naturally she's -ATK.
4* Cherche: Ate a 4* of her a while back to get Attack+3 on Zephiel so she's a refill at least.

Try #3: 1 Blue
4* Oboro: Think this is the first time I got her at 4* so that's something?

Try #4: 2 Blue, 1 Green.
3* Robin: Another 3* cutscene, nice.
4* Odin: Moonbow whee.
4* Fae: Well, at least she's new. Considering sacrificing her to give someone Renewal.

Well that was disappointing.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 12, 2017, 08:47:33 AM
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4* Fae: Well, at least she's new. Considering sacrificing her to give someone Renewal.

Fae has some really solid stats and sort of functions as a magical tank that can easily counter common blue threats. Aside from Falchion-wielding reds, I can't think of any units that can easily kill her. And heck, I've seen her survive plenty of Falchions to the face as well.

If you happened to have a spare dragon with Lightning Breath, you may want to consider giving her that.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on June 12, 2017, 04:52:26 PM
Okay, change of opinion: I hate Tempest Trials. I haven't had a gaming rage quit in nearly a decade, but I almost did with it today. Honestly, the grind just adds a layer of feeling super depressed when I think about how much more I have to do.

I think I'm just going to give up. It's not fun and I've had enough.
Yeah I think I'm at this point as well. I stopped on Sat without hitting my target amount. Then I didn't play on Sun, and I do not feel like trying to make up my fall behind. So I'm done with this event. A shame as I want that skill, but it is not worth 1.75 hours every day or however long it would take to pull this off.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 12, 2017, 06:38:16 PM
Okay, change of opinion: I hate Tempest Trials. I haven't had a gaming rage quit in nearly a decade, but I almost did with it today. Honestly, the grind just adds a layer of feeling super depressed when I think about how much more I have to do.

I think I'm just going to give up. It's not fun and I've had enough.
Yeah I think I'm at this point as well. I stopped on Sat without hitting my target amount. Then I didn't play on Sun, and I do not feel like trying to make up my fall behind. So I'm done with this event. A shame as I want that skill, but it is not worth 1.75 hours every day or however long it would take to pull this off.

I think the only reason I'm still sticking with it is because I've caught up with everything else right now (although I could still manage to grind my other 5 star units up, clean up my Barracks some more, or continue messing around with Inheritance). And even then, I had a map that utterly bogged my Mounted Emblem team down on. I wasn't in any real danger, it just murdered my Time rating something fierce, which in turn murdered my final score, since I had Lucius healing Matthew who was trudging behind Hector and on that Maribel/Ricken recruitment map that hates Cavs (not that said map doesn't suck normally, since there's only two ways out of the starting area for infantry and only one for horses). If the maps were more consistent, I could forgive this mode a bit more since while it'd be far more tedious, it also wouldn't be able to randomly screw over a run like that.

And yeah, the most efficient way to play is to go for Lunatic 1 since Lunatic 2 doesn't award nearly enough points per run to justify slogging through 7 maps in a row (not that 5 is much better, but anything that it isn't as arduous is a vast improvement).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 14, 2017, 05:14:21 AM
I don't have that much else to do in the game either, so I might as well stick with it for a while longer. I'm at ~32000 currently, so the 'big' reward should be no problem. I might even get a portion of those 15 orbs that come after.

Anyway, I like how generous the game is being with orbs right now. I got a bunch of them from the Tempest Trials, not to mention the free daily orbs, the 10 orb bonus, the new paralogue... I have more orbs then room for new characters.

Two pulls are no problem though, and those new characters are looking very interesting.

3* Arthur - The most awful way to start the day.

3* Frederick - There are many green units I wouldn't mind having, but Frederick is not one of them.

4* Lilina - Nice! She's new. Bit pointless maybe now that I have Sanaki, but let's just say she's a lot more welcome than a lot of other reds.

Two colourless orbs left in this pull. It's really going to happen today. I just have to believe it will.

3* Niles - Right voice actor, wrong character.

4* Virion - I'm getting flashbacks to my first month of FEH.

Next pull.

4* Selena - I think she has some skills I can feed to someone, maybe...

4* Palla - Hi, Palla number 14! I like that's she's 4* though.

4* Nowi - Just the skill fodder I needed!

3* Corrin - Well, that's useless.

3* Est - The eternal disappointment.

I think I'll just feed that Nowi to my young Tiki, send some people how and try one last time.

5* Athena - There we go! Looks like she's a good candidate for Moon Bow and Quickened Pulse shenanigans.

3* Raigh - Whatever.

3* Azama - Look. This pack of feathers is shaped like a person!

3* Donnel - I'm starting to think I should have stopped after Athena.

3* Cecilia - ... I should have stopped.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 14, 2017, 06:59:13 AM
I'm at 40k points in Tempest Trials. Not planning on doing the new paralogues until that's over since the time limit on the paralogues is longer, but I did get enough orbs to pull.

First try: No blues. Of course.

3* Cherche: Attack +3 for all my healers.

Screw it, just gonna pull all 5 next time.

4* Oboro: Of course.
3* Gwen: Can't I get one of the halfway useful armors for once? I'd even prefer Draug because at least Ward Armor would be useful in armor emblem.
3* Beruka: Crappy in Fates and crappy here too.
4* Azama: Pain has some niche use, but I already have him.
3* Laslow: They didn't even get Liam O'Brien to reprise the role so I don't even get the satisfaction of hearing his super sexy man voice. (Speaking of which, I'm pretty sure they only actually got the same person to voice in like half the cases where they had voices before)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on June 14, 2017, 09:31:35 AM
Has [member=33]Tomara[/member] gotten Takumi yet?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 14, 2017, 10:00:33 AM
Nope :(

But you'll see, by the time he's completely useless on a meta level, I'll finally get my husbando.

I've already reached the point were I have a superior 5* archer (namely my +atk Klein), so hey, I'll get there!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on June 14, 2017, 10:01:56 AM
I'll check back next month, then.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 14, 2017, 10:30:07 AM
Managed to clear at least one more pulls worth of space before the Bride Focus expired last night so I decided to drop an Orb for more Barracks space go for two more Bride pulls. Got 2 Reds, 2 Colorless and 1 Green. Welp so much for Charlotte or Caeda. The reds were a 4 star Eliwood and a 3 star Draug (Skill and Feather fodder respectfully), the Green was a 3 star Gunter (a 4 star would've been worth something, but all this one's good for is the setup for a Mounted Emblem skill or Feathers), a 3 star Wrys (Live to Serve fodder for sure), and a 5 star Bridal Lyn (Woot!). My final pull for the Bride Focus was far less interesting (3 Greens, a Red and a Blue; only a 4 Star Barst was worth anything to me out of that). Cleared enough of the fodder to make room for yet another pull under the Echoes of Mystery Focus and pulled nothing but trash (and I guess a 3 star Odin for more Blarblade shenanigans, too bad my only other Blue Tome user is a Spring Lucina). But then, I've had stupidly good luck recently so I can take a bad pull or two.

Anyways, apparently the word on the street is that the next Voting Gauntlet is going to be a Staff~Staff~ off. Boy I am definitely not looking forward to that, especially if it drops before the Tempest Trials are done.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 18, 2017, 07:53:09 AM
So since I'm insane I'm up to 70k in the Tempest Trials. Guess I should knock out the new Grand Hero before going any further. I got 20 orbs now so fingers crossed for me to +2 my Reinhardt.

3* Robin: Why not, might as well make a 3* cutscene a tradition.
4* Camilla: Already got one with the perfect boon so dunno what I'll do with her. Savage Blow would be nice if this game wasn't a OHKO fest.
4* Sheena: She ain't Hector but I can't complain too much. Nice to have another armor who doesn't totally suck. She's +ATK -SPD too.
3* Palla: More Goad Fliers for whenever I get around to making a real flier team.
3* Gaius: Pass would be a lot more useful if it could be used to pass through forests or something.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on June 18, 2017, 09:46:34 AM
I'm still around 9k in Tempest Trials. I haven't actually run it in over a week. Actually I have barely even been playing. Didn't even realize there was a new GHB. So thanks for that. Picked up 3* legion and called it a day.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 18, 2017, 12:33:47 PM
I'm currently at 2300~ish, so what did you guys run T_T with?

My first consists of 4 star Tharja (+Res/-Def), 5 star Ephraim (+Atk/-HP), 5 star Camilla (+Res/-Def), and 5 star Bride Lyn (+HP/-Def)
My second consists of 5 star Eliwood (Neutral), 4 star Gunter (+Atk/-Spd), 4 star Ursula (Neutral), and 4 star Frederick(+Atk/-Res)
My third consists of 4 star Female Robin (or 5 star Raven if I need the Green Physical power over the Mounted Mage counter; Neutral for the former, +HP/-Atk for the latter), 5 star Klein (+Res/-HP), 5 star Sanaki (+HP/-Spd), and 5 star Level 40+1 Cordelia (+Atk/-HP)
And my fourth consists of 5 star Zephiel (Neutral), 5 star Level 36 Spring Lucina (+Def/-Res), 4 star Cecilia (Neutral), and 4 star Level 36 Olivia (Neutral) (I may also throw my Level 38 Hana in there if I need the extra Green fighting power; +Res/-Spd)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 18, 2017, 02:57:23 PM
My starting team is Alm, Fae, Sakura and MRobin. All 5* except for MRobin. Versatile and sturdy, but usually not strong enough to make it to the 5 or 6th battle.

When they fall, I switch to My Little Pony: Friendship is Destruction: Cecilia, Reinhardt, Xander and Elise. All 5* except for Cecilia. They, of course, have some cavalry boosting skills. Under the right circumstances, they can complete the rest of the trial without much difficulty.

If they don't, I have two options:

Battle 5 or earlier: the fodder team goes in. That means 5* Lucius, 4* Klein, 4* Tharja and another unit with high offensive capabilities (usually from this selection: 4* Nino, 5* Linde, 5* Camus, 5* Nowi). They don't usually survive the final battle, but that's okay. The survival multiplier doesn't amount to much anyway.

Battle 6 or 7: Final Battle team, go!
This elite unit consists of:
-5* Sanaki, who takes 0 dames from all green mages and can deep fry Hectors on top of that
-5* Klein, who loves destroying all sorts of annoying units with his +atk stats
-4* Olivia, who acts as support for Sanaki and Klein so they can kill even more units even more efficiently
-Whatever 4*/5* can tank that annoying mounted mage in the top right (and wasn't part of Team Fodder)

(My Olivia and 5* Klein spend so much time together, it's starting to feel like they are a couple. A very cute couple.)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on June 18, 2017, 10:16:21 PM
I'm currently at 2300~ish, so what did you guys run T_T with?
Team 1 (Team TA): Robin (M), Julia, Sanaki, and Azura
Team 2 (Horse Emblem): Reinhardt, Titania, Xander, Elise
Team 3 (Armor Emblem): Effie, Zephiel, Hector, and Lachesis
Team 4 (Team Oh Fuck Oh Fuck, Oh Fuck): Ryoma, Ninian, and 2 others selected based on final battle units
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 19, 2017, 05:54:23 AM
Team 1: Eirika, Reinhardt, Azura, Tharja 4*
Strategy should be obvious- Reinhardt kills everything while Tharja kills Greens, with Eirika to charge up her Blade Tome. I often can reach the final map just using this team, and if I'm lucky, I'll beat that one with this team too. It can get cut short if I get screwed on RNG though- if a map is nothing but green tomes or something dumb like that Tharja can get worn out because she has subpar RES for a mage, and my Eirika is -SPD so she can only do so much.

Team 2: Eliwood, Priscilla, Cecilia, Olivia 4*
Usually used for the final map, but it does okay on advancing too. Certain combinations of units will screw the team over but usually Eliwood has no trouble dueling both reds and greens since I stuck swordbreaker on him. My Cecilia is currently a Raven build so she can take both Blues and Colorless.

If both those teams fail, I basically just cobble together random teams of 5*s to try to counter whatever the map is throwing at me. Roy in particular gets a ton of use because his balanced stats and Triangle Adept make him a really great Green killer, and you need a good one for Veronica because her stats are high enough that she can screw over reds regardless.

Also, Wings of Mercy is the worst. Cain and Frederick can die in a fire.

In other news, I beat all 3 Legion maps. Probably took me over 100 Stamina before I solved the Infernal one- the stats on the enemies are so ridiculous even the aforementioned Roy has trouble beating Legion without being worn down. Towards the end of the fight I had to kite a bunch of enemies around while my cavaliers chipped them to death.

I'll also likely rank down in the Arena this week, because apparently Tier 18 and above you can only go up or down, there's no bracket for staying. My Cavaliers didn't have the stats to get me a score high enough so I replaced them one by one with Infantry units until I was only left with Reinhardt. Took me a few dueling swords to get a perfect 7-streak but my score still wasn't enough. Looks like I'm running up against the whales in Tier 19 so there's no real hope of winning for me. At least I'll still get 4 Orbs though.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 19, 2017, 02:36:59 PM
Unfortunately Tier 17 and lower only dish out 3 orbs or less. Fortunately, I've managed enough momentum to score myself upwards to Tier 17 this time, so that's finally happening.

As for T_T, it's just so goddamn demoralizing to go into a run, only to get bogarded on the 4th or so map with hard counters to your units.

Also it sounds like Reinhardt is goddamn mandatory for the mode, because my Ursula isn't cutting it, even with Blarblade. I'm still only 23000~ish right now too. It just fucking sucks.

At least I've cleared Legion on Lunatic (Infernal can bite me right now, hopefully there'll be a ReGHeB for him later on, and not during another of these T_Ts; unless Infernal is supposed to be the ReGHeB; I kinda doubt it though since the other ReGHeBs of the first GHeBs didn't adjust the ranks or difficulty levels to match the later ones).


Glitch Pull Edit: The comp Orbs for Legion's bugged GHeB were enough to put me over the threshold for another pull. So I dumped two Fredericks and a 4 star Raven into Masked Marth (because lol, fuck us and our discount Lucinas) and got myself another 4 star Selena and a 5 star Roderick (with +Def/-Spd; not terribly thrilled about this as he's supposed to be the fast one, and his Firesweep Lance shuts down counterattacks, which makes the extra Def fairly useless) in exchange (along with yet another 3 star Raigh, Bartre and Subaki to add to the goddamn pile). Still he could be a good source of powercreep skills if nothing else (Infantry would love those Drive Def skills for an Aura with range on it, Roderick, being mounted, has little need for a weaker/generic Aura Buffs when he could eat an Eliwood for a much stronger version instead).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 21, 2017, 05:15:02 AM
There's less than 24 hours left on the clock, but for what it's worth, I've swapped out my first team since my last post because I decided I might as well get some Hero Merit while doing this crappy event (Maxed out Tharja and co. like 50 runs ago). A girl power team of Celica, Azura, Anna, and Lissa got me to the final map pretty consistently, and even beat it sometimes (but I usually just surrendered regardless so I could get Tharja in for the 1.4x). I've since swapped Anna with Spring Chrom and Lissa with Wrys and it works just as well. I think a balanced red/blue/green team with a healer can get to the end pretty reliably if you don't mind getting crappy time rankings. Also my Celica and Azura are both -SPD and my Spring Chrom is -ATK so they're not even that good, and for a bunch of the runs I had only default skills on Celica (saved SP since I hadn't decided on her build yet).

I really, really hope the next time around they'll do something like make each run cost 50 stamina and have the required score be much lower. This event takes way more time than a mobile game should.

I also pulled and got:
3* Florina: I have like 10 of her and there's only like 3 units or something that like having Darting Blow. Can I at least get more Shannas or Subakis, those guys have skills I want.
3* Frederick: Well, at least Wings of Mercy 2 is something.
4* Roy: -HP, +DEF. Dunno if I should upgrade him and merge or save him for when a unit wants Triangle Adept. Probably will go with the letter.
3* Gordin: Right unit, wrong rank. Thanks Obama.
3* Virion: I think I've made up for that nice pull back during the Echoes banner, can I start getting good units again?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 21, 2017, 09:06:22 PM
I really think that the T_T were just too long and prone to random chance ("Hi, Wings of Mercy here! There goes your front line. Better luck next time. :P"), and shoddy AI (Healbot heals Buffer, Buffer buffs Drawbacker, Drawbacker drawsback Healer, repeat until you suicide someone).

Gripe Edit: But really, my mobile device's screen takes the wrong input all the goddamn time. I can't even count the number of fuck-ups caused because the game didn't register my commands properly, accidentally canceled out of one command (like moving to a specific place command) while inputing another (suddenly I'm attacking from the wrong goddamn square), clicks the wrong unit, does an end command input as I'm in the middle of issuing a movement command, and many more issues. Having to slog through seven matches with these hanging over my head is what makes this the goddamn worst.

That said, I'm currently sitting at 36k, so 4k more for the last realistically obtainable set of Orbs, 9k for the last swath of Crystalline Exp, and 14k for Quickened Pulse. I've got a full tank of Stamina, two thirds of the Legion GHeB rewards, its night out, and I've got my shades on. Let's grind.

Edit the Second: Welp. Only made it to the Orbs. Didn't make it to the Seal, didn't get Legion mk 3, couldn't even get above the 50k ranking (hit Level 40 for Bridal Lyn though, so my failure wasn't complete). Did the most I could with what I had...thank god the Torture is over...for now.........
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 22, 2017, 04:35:19 AM
There's an option to turn off double tapping to end turn if you haven't toggled that yet. That was probably the most annoying thing for me. Anyway, you can take comfort in knowing you took your real life responsibilities more seriously than I did!

I broke 100k of course. I spent a stamina potion towards the end to secure a rank over 5000. Got to 3929 myself. I heard getting to rank 1000+ needed something like at least 130k so I threw that idea in the trash quickly. I'm crazy, but not that crazy.

Edit: Scraped together 20 orbs, last try for Reinhardt probably.

3* Odin: Moonbow's always nice.
3* Shanna: So is desperation.
3* Shanna: Guess I'm getting my wish from earlier.
3* Draug: Ward Armor will be nice as soon as I get more than 2 armors worth using.
4* Caeda: At least she's new. Too bad she's such a terrible unit.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 22, 2017, 07:50:39 AM
There's an option to turn off double tapping to end turn if you haven't toggled that yet. That was probably the most annoying thing for me. Anyway, you can take comfort in knowing you took your real life responsibilities more seriously than I did!

I broke 100k of course. I spent a stamina potion towards the end to secure a rank over 5000. Got to 3929 myself. I heard getting to rank 1000+ needed something like at least 130k so I threw that idea in the trash quickly. I'm crazy, but not that crazy.

Edit: Scraped together 20 orbs, last try for Reinhardt probably.

3* Odin: Moonbow's always nice.
3* Shanna: So is desperation.
3* Shanna: Guess I'm getting my wish from earlier.
3* Draug: Ward Armor will be nice as soon as I get more than 2 armors worth using.
4* Caeda: At least she's new. Too bad she's such a terrible unit.

Caeda's worth it just because she has one of the Flier Emblem buffs on her (the +6/6 Def/Res one), and isn't a Rare pull (unlike Hinoka or Minerva).

Also, it came up to around 150k+ to maintain within the top rank.


War of the Staff~Staff~ Edit: And on a less bitter but still torturous note. The next VG is a go with Team A consisting of Elise, Sakura, Lachesis and Maria while Team Losers has Lissa, Mist, Clarine and Priscilla. What fresh hell is this gonna be?

Smart money's on Elise, because Fates is still strong, especially with some Mounted Emblem Buffs backing her over Miss 'Cute Power! Cute Justice!'. But this one might just be worth taking a scrappy team for just because I don't have anybody above Lissa in popularity (and I don't think you gain anything from the fights themselves beyond HM for your participating unit, which sucks because I could use some focus fire grinding sessions and this would be just the place). Plus they've upped the Modifier so that the longer it runs for a team, the higher it goes (up to a x7.5 multiplier). Then again, it would probably just Yoyo back and forth again just like last time.

And the Focuses aren't anything to write home about either (although I only have Maria from Team A, and only at a 4 Star; then again, I also have a Level 40 5 star Bridal Lyn and thanks to power creep only the dreaded Orange Fluffy Sheep really competes without complicated Inheritance shenanigans; plus they're running out of mediocre characters to pad Focuses with; its high time for some FE 4/5/8 bitches).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 23, 2017, 06:29:38 AM
This new healer gauntlet is disappointing. They didn't include the best girl or the worst meme :(

It's 100% little sisters. And they're sisters. How clever...

But let's see, I have:
-5* Sakura
-5* Elise
-4* Clarine
-4* Lachesis
-3* Lissa (raised from 1* and on her way to 4* just because I can)

I'll side with Sakura first, watch her get crushed by Elise while raking in all those sweet, sweet bonus points, and then jump ship to Elise and win the gauntlet.

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And the Focuses aren't anything to write home about either

In fact, they're terrible. The odds of actually getting the character you want are really low. These Focuses are only nice if for some reason you do not have a decent healer despite the game practically giving you two (Wrys and Lissa). If you have that special kind of luck, you'll probably pull a Faye and Jaffar.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 24, 2017, 09:12:22 AM
By "best girl" I assume you mean, naturally, Lucius.

But yeah Elise is probably the safe bet if you just want to coast for easy win feathers. Fates is the newest game and Elise is probably the most popular healer to give Wrathful Staff to (weird that they didn't include Genny in any of the focuses). Not sure if I should pick Priscilla just because she's the only 5* I have, though. That 10% bonus is a lot more useful when you aim for the multiplier.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 24, 2017, 10:09:31 AM
Genny isn't a little sister, which means she's a worthless piece of shit by otaku standards. You see, this war of the clerics is actually a thinly veiled war of the imouto waifus.

And we're all trash for playing along.

By "best girl" I assume you mean, naturally, Lucius.

Naturally.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 24, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
Genny isn't a little sister, which means she's a worthless piece of shit by otaku standards. You see, this war of the clerics is actually a thinly veiled war of the imouto waifus.

And we're all trash for playing along.

By "best girl" I assume you mean, naturally, Lucius.

Naturally.

Genny's not worthless to otakus as she and Wrrrrys! have their meme statuses (of a Pink/Orange Fluffy Sheep of Doom and Mr. Vulnerary respectfully) to fall back on, plus Rules 34 and 43 (or whatever the "If it exists, there's genderswapped porn of it" number was). They just aren't anybody's little sisters (that we know of....).

Although I won't argue about your assessment of us all being whaler's trash. Not after catching a glimpse into the hellscape that is mobile gaming through that Attack on T_Tan.


Progress Edit: Was reminded that the quests do not distinguish between the Level 40 Michalis from the GHeB and the Level 40 Michalis from 9-1 Lunatic, so I quaffed a Stamina Potion and bumrushed the GHeB quests since I didn't have to try to keep GHeB Michalis alive for Alfonse/Michalis to down (I just had Eliwood delete him just like I did back when his GHeB first came up, while Klein and Olivia cleaned the rest of the house; biggest difference was not having to switch Skills around on Klein since the HP+3 Seal covered his deficit towards surviving the Sword Cav).

Meanwhile I've finally taken care of the Tier 10 Training Tower quests for all four types, so I don't have to torture myself like I did at the end of May. My next push is going to be getting Lunatic Paralogue 7-3's quest done along with the last remnants of June's month long quests and the next two Arena quests when they come along (Camus is appreciating the training at least).


Progress Edit the Second: Goddammit. I just barely got squeaked out of advancing to the 18th Tier and an extra Orb. I think I need to put Fury onto Eliwood because this is dumb.

That said, I've done the final Training Tower Quests and the 7-3 Lunatic Paralogue Quest (although I completely wasted a Light's Blessing on the matter because I was lazy/too busy trying to solve the battle to bother reading the Quest Description). On the upside to all of this, I've finally trained my 5 star Cain, Boey, Fae and Kagero to nearly level 40 (they're like Levels 37~39 right now, so basically 40+1 4 stars with their 5 star skill and weapon). Unfortunately, it turns out that my 5 star Cain's stats are +Speed and -Attack which is bad for a Brave+ weapon user, especially one with as much competition as a Mounted Sword user (sure Mounted Emblem can fix this issue, but between Eliwood and Xander, Cain is superfluous), while Fae is +HP and -Res which I'm kinda ambivalent on.

At least with Bunny Lucina closing in on Level 40 herself, Bridal Lyn getting ground up to 40 during the T_T, and these 4, my number of trained 5 star units has jumped up from 8 to 14 over the course of the month. Now I just need to get Camus and Xander up to 40 so that I can promote them to 5 stars then level them up again. Other projects include training my second 5 star Raven up so that I can remember what his traits are and feed one to the other, training my Bridal Cordelias before having one devour the other, training Masked Marth 4 star up to 40 so that I can feed 'him' to 5 star Masked Marth in my quest for Ghetto Lucina, training my 4 star Ogma up so that he can be fed to my 5 star Ogma, getting Lloyd and Legion some training for their inevitable ReGHeBs, and so much more.


And Now a Banner Edit: New Banner has been datamined. Turns out we're doing swimwear for the first half of July for F. Robin, A. Tiki, Gaius and Frederick. Later July will probably have swimwear for Fates Royals instead. Also, lol at the Fury Focus. I've still got more 4 star Bartres than I know what to do with. I do not want for Fury.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 27, 2017, 02:28:11 AM
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And Now a Banner Edit: New Banner has been datamined. Turns out we're doing swimwear for the first half of July for F. Robin, A. Tiki, Gaius and Frederick.

I'm somewhat relieved. When I saw Tiki on the list, I feared they'd have gone with her child form.

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Later July will probably have swimwear for Fates Royals instead.

Who wants to bet Elise is among them and then regret their life choices?

(There's also a good chance Takumi will be featured, but I'm not sure I'd try to get him. I want archer Takumi! Not someone wielding, I dunno, a pineapple sword or something.)

Edit: I should probably respond to the revealed summer characters, right?

Frederick the Water Bender: Eh, I kinda like him, but he should really find another pair of sandals. However, his strategic male nipple covering shirt is on point.

Robin the Fish Stabber: The more I look at her, the dumber she looks. Stabbing things with a spear is a lot easier if you atleast look where you're stabbing!

Tiki the Fortunately Legal One: Oh, that's actually a pretty cute bikini! Too bad the watermelon axe thing looks farfetched.

Gaius the Secretly Irish Guy: You can't shoot that arrow if you don't nock it and pull the bowstring, you dipshit.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 27, 2017, 05:50:06 AM
So the next GHeB will be against Clarisse and starts tomorrow because why not (at least the VGs aren't as bad as T_Ts simply because you have 25 minute blocks between votes to get shit done in (whereas a single T_T session took 25 minutes to run on a good day)).

Meanwhile, War of the Immotos (or however the term is spelled), I've gone and supported Elise despite not having her. Hopefully my pro strats will compensate, especially since the next Banner is going to perclude me from pulling for any little sisters.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 27, 2017, 09:17:41 AM
Debating on whether to spend orbs on the healer focus or to save my orbs for something else to come up. I dunno if anybody's figured out if the game rolls for characters the instant you buy in or it rolls after you pick the color, because if its the former then it's not a waste to do a focus with just one color.

Anyway I'm supporting Priscilla. Elise will almost certainly win so I guess I'll try to rank high in the first 2 rounds if nothing else.

I also dropped 20k feathers to upgrade a Zephiel. Hopefully alongside that Sheena I pulled the other day armor quests won't be so annoying anymore.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 28, 2017, 07:26:10 AM
Busted up Hard and Lunatic's Clarisse so now I'm working on training up her, Legion, Catria (again) and Saizo. I'd say that Clarisse is okay for an Archer. Bride Cordelia's more useful given how much more useful Buffs are to Debuffs in this game, but she's a little more well-rounded compared to B. Cody's min-max'd stats. The strat I used to beat the stage on those two levels was to run a Sanaki with Raudurraven, along with an Olivia, Ephraim and Cecilia for Dancing, Face Tanking the Red Cavalier (and Drawback shenanigans because I gave that to Ephraim), and picking off the Dagger user/Clarisse if possible respectfully.


Debating on whether to spend orbs on the healer focus or to save my orbs for something else to come up. I dunno if anybody's figured out if the game rolls for characters the instant you buy in or it rolls after you pick the color, because if its the former then it's not a waste to do a focus with just one color.

Anyway I'm supporting Priscilla. Elise will almost certainly win so I guess I'll try to rank high in the first 2 rounds if nothing else.

I also dropped 20k feathers to upgrade a Zephiel. Hopefully alongside that Sheena I pulled the other day armor quests won't be so annoying anymore.

I figure that it rolls the moment you buy in because the orb colors don't change, and you can't opt out the moment you buy in until you've pulled at least one orb, no matter if you want to pull or not. That way the game forces you to spend orbs per pull and as a bonus can let you continue pulling for less orbs if you like the color distribution. Plus I figure that if the RNG behavior seems to favor one RNG for all five orbs rather than rolling them on an individual basis (the fact that I've gotten two of the same unit at the same rarity on the same grouping is pretty telling). But without datamining it, I couldn't tell you.

As for your Armor Quest, Sheena should be really helpful since she provides the +6/+6 Def/Res Buff which is useful for bulking up against Mages and your only other option for a Green Armor is Hector who isn't exactly the easiest unit to draw. That said, it'll still be Zephiel who'll carry the team since he has enough Atk and a passive Threaten Def 2 built into his Prf sword plus Life and Death to grant him enough damage output to bypass most color disadvantages (and that's without Gwendy's +6/+6 Atk/Spd Buff).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 28, 2017, 10:56:25 AM
Beat all 3 Clarisse maps with little trouble using Horse Emblem. Cecilia was actually the star player this time (but Reinhardt was still important because he never isn't). I have to imagine any Raventome user will be nice on the map but the Horse buffs were probably a big reason why Cecilia didn't keel over from attrition on Infernal (she's -DEF though on a unit that's already squishy, whereas Robin M has pretty decent DEF last I checked).

Also I actually inherited Ward Armor onto both Zephiel and Sheena. I'm planning for the long-term so I figure I might as well get started on the whole box formation armor emblem thing. Not interested in putting Life and Death on Zephiel either, pretty sure no matter how many buffs he's getting he won't be doubling anything, so half the bonuses from it are just being wasted.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 29, 2017, 12:18:22 AM
Okay, wow, that very much sucked for a few hours there. I don't know what's more amazing the Sakura shaped Blue Turtle Shell absolutely nuking Team Elise, or that Team Elise still won in spite of the Mario Kart Strats. Either way, there's trying to prevent landslides like the Lucina killdozer, and then there's going maximum Mario Kart/Party with last minute bullshit reversals against insurmountable multipliers.

Thankfully Elise won this round, because if she hadn't, my Cumulative Rank and all the Feathers associated with that and the first round Army Victory would've gone down the drain. Even going Merc wouldn't have helped as Sakura would've been the clear winner, and jumping aboard that ship would've doomed me to the 1000 Feather tier due to that huge ass x7.2 multiplier from this round. Not to mention that pretty much every other Team with a little sister I have sank (other than maybe Lissa).


Also promoted Camus to 5 star finally. Now I've got my first 5 star Range 1~2 Counter unit.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on June 29, 2017, 12:23:39 AM
I turned my phone off, so I can't see who won between Mist/Lissa.

I'm hoping that somehow Mist pulled a win despite the huge disadvantage...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 29, 2017, 04:34:55 AM
Sorry, Lissa won. Waifus always with junior...ity.

Also yeah the blue shell shenanigans also happened on Priscilla vs Clarine. We just BARELY beat Clarine, like it was literally down to the final hour that we inched past the stupid giant multiplier. Nice that they want to try to make the playing field more level, but honestly this kinda just makes win/lose feel like its completely up to random chance.

BTW if any of you want to spoil the fun of figuring it out for yourselves, some guy posted a video of him beating Clarisse Infernal with only one 4* and 3 3*s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-5WjN-f99A). This guy's videos are decently popular but I think this is his best one yet. The way he puts Drag back and Reciprocal Aid to use in this one is insane.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 29, 2017, 05:48:41 AM
BTW if any of you want to spoil the fun of figuring it out for yourselves, some guy posted a video of him beating Clarisse Infernal with only one 4* and 3 3*s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-5WjN-f99A). This guy's videos are decently popular but I think this is his best one yet. The way he puts Drag back and Reciprocal Aid to use in this one is insane.

Mkv.? Isn't she female? I saw it come up a few times. But yeah, it's always fun to see those strategies.

Edit: I should probably boost one of my 4*s to 5. The options:
-Anna (I could use a good axe user)
-Legion (I could use a good axe user)
-One of my Kagero

I can't decide...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on June 29, 2017, 07:24:14 PM
I would say one of the axe users. With Reinhardt and Ryoma on the rise, I've found myself ditching my own Kagero since if she can't one-shot those heroes, I'm losing a unit. Ryoma is too fast to be doubled, and Reinhardt will take Kagero's hits.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 29, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
Kagero's a bit too specialized IMO. Armors and Horses are both pretty popular at high level play and she's useless against those. My Kagero barely sees any use.

I have 5*'d Anna and she's pretty decent, just paper thin defenses. I hope you grinded her up each time before you promoted her since she takes a lot of SP to be good though. Most common build seems to be Fury/LaD+Desperation. I went with Fury since its a lot easier to get and chips her own HP into Desperation range. Legion's pretty similar but he has awful RES so he's bad at checking Reinhardt.

If you just want a good Axe user maybe look into Cherche though? She also needs a ton of SI to be good though. She can do double duty by being a good flier emblem member too though.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on June 29, 2017, 08:40:51 PM
I would say Anna too, but I'm not too familiar with Legion yet to make a good call on that.

I feel a little bad, since I have Hector and he fills my axe needs nicely XD
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 29, 2017, 09:45:47 PM
Kagero's a bit too specialized IMO. Armors and Horses are both pretty popular at high level play and she's useless against those. My Kagero barely sees any use.

I have 5*'d Anna and she's pretty decent, just paper thin defenses. I hope you grinded her up each time before you promoted her since she takes a lot of SP to be good though. Most common build seems to be Fury/LaD+Desperation. I went with Fury since its a lot easier to get and chips her own HP into Desperation range. Legion's pretty similar but he has awful RES so he's bad at checking Reinhardt.

If you just want a good Axe user maybe look into Cherche though? She also needs a ton of SI to be good though. She can do double duty by being a good flier emblem member too though.

I'd say if you're considering Cherche, you might want to consider Michalis instead. He's basically got the same overall stat distribution, but slightly less extreme, which works to his advantage as Hauteclere makes up the difference between his and Cherche's overkill Atk stat. He also needs far less SI to get going since he comes with Iote's Shield which makes him far better Archer Bait than most for any Flier Emblem teams. Threaten Def is okay. It could be replaced, but depending on your Flier Emblem team, you may just want the added debuff. His biggest issue though is Blazing Thunder which even Hauteclere doesn't really help with.


As for the other choices:
Kagero: Ehh. She can be pulled at 5 stars, so unless you're sporting one with excellent traits (+Atk or +Spd with a -something that's not Atk or Spd), you're probably better off waiting for a natural 5 star and Merging the old one to cover the SP difference. That said, if you really want to keep her competitive, she probably wants Darting Blow to help with her doubling issues.
Legion: Ehhhhhh. He's all HP, Atk and Spd. A solid combination, but his skills kinda suck (Fury's alright enough, especially with all his HP; but Obstruct sucks outside of all but the most incredibly specific circumstances). He does induce Panic with his Axe though (although that requires finding someone loaded down with Buffs and whacking them to debuff). I suspect he's specifically designed with Arena Defense scores in mind.
Anna: Ehhhh. She's all about covering Alfonse and Sharena's weaknesses (i.e. lack of Res) and being suprafast (she's tied for second highest neutral Spd with Athena and Lon'qu beats her by only 1 point before Traits where he'd still need the Spd+1 Seal with a +Spd Boon to double Anna). Barring these, her biggest point of interest is her built in Wings of Mercy on her Prf Axe and her Spur Res. Otherwise, she just kinda there in terms of Axe users, especially since so many of them are Fliers or Horses who provide and benefit from the current pro-Horse meta and Flier teams.

I think the biggest problem right now is that its better to have a good Green Mage than a good Green Axe user since the game's currently treating Blue units like Def tanks, with Jagen being the only non-Mage/Pegasus exception (and he's still pretty fucking frail).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 29, 2017, 10:10:25 PM
I assume Tomara's specifically looking for an axe, otherwise I'd recommend she 5*s a Nino like everyone else. =P

With Cherche's sky-high attack the obvious choice is to inherit a Brave Axe onto her, which necessitates 5*ing one of your Barsts or something. Michalis's Shield is nice, but he also has blah SPD and rock bottom RES so he just gets killed by mages instead. Could always inherit it onto someone else, but he's a limited character and you'd also miss out on his theatrics.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 30, 2017, 02:23:30 AM
The game has only ever given me one Nino thusfar and has blah stats. She's okay for GHB and T_T maps at 4*, so I'm just going to leave her there until someone better comes along and I can feed her weapon to Cecilia.

My main counter for blue units are Klein and Linde. I figured an axe user might compliment that. Plus, I barely have any green units at 5* anyway. Just Fae and Springmilla. I'm waiting for another Roy so I can give Springmilla triangle adapt, which, in combination with Gronnraven, should keep her atleast somewhat safe from archers. Fae is waiting for Lightning Breath. So, in the meantime, I'd like to train a unit to fill a niche that has not yet been filled.

And yep, my defence team does need to be better balanced.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 30, 2017, 03:29:08 AM
The game has only ever given me one Nino thusfar and has blah stats. She's okay for GHB and T_T maps at 4*, so I'm just going to leave her there until someone better comes along and I can feed her weapon to Cecilia.

My main counter for blue units are Klein and Linde. I figured an axe user might compliment that. Plus, I barely have any green units at 5* anyway. Just Fae and Springmilla. I'm waiting for another Roy so I can give Springmilla triangle adapt, which, in combination with Gronnraven, should keep her atleast somewhat safe from archers. Fae is waiting for Lightning Breath. So, in the meantime, I'd like to train a unit to fill a niche that has not yet been filled.

And yep, my defence team does need to be better balanced.

Then grind Legion. He's probably your best bet at this point.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 30, 2017, 03:31:19 AM
Well, Anna does have the extra perk of being a bonus character in the Arena fairly often if you care about that. She's in my Arena team this week, as a matter of fact. Of course it matters a little less this week since once again I'm in tier 19 where I'll get my ass handed to me by whales.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 30, 2017, 04:38:12 AM
Well, Anna does have the extra perk of being a bonus character in the Arena fairly often if you care about that. She's in my Arena team this week, as a matter of fact. Of course it matters a little less this week since once again I'm in tier 19 where I'll get my ass handed to me by whales.

This is true. And in fact, Anna and the other two Askrs are often required for other Quests, including ReGHeBs. So that's definitely a solid reason to go for her then.


That said, Summer Focus is up (along with double SP bonus, now may be the time to grind my Cecilia so that she can learn Triangle Adept 2). Pulled and got a 4 star Fir (again, but she's still uncommon for me), a 3 star Adult Tiki (wrong Tiki but could be useful for Inheritance fodder, could be funny to see Fae with a Lightning Breath at least), a 3 star Setsuna (with +Spd/-HP Traits; hell yeah, a not-complete garbage Setsuna for Assassin Bow/Bowbreaker shenanigans), and garbage (another 3 star Beruka and Azama for the pile).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on June 30, 2017, 04:52:09 AM
I have like 75+ orbs, so I figured I might as well try to pull some units. The beach units do have some interesting skills... Here we go. I'm just gojng to grab everything unless it's like 4x red or something.

4* Laslow - He is stalking me... And I don't need that many axe breakers.

4* Sully - Well, draw back is useful.

4* Lukas - Yay, new unit!

4* Peri - I hate her but I didn't have her yet, so whatever!

4* Priscilla - Another new unit!

This was a good pull :D

Next one is going to be even better.

3* Stahl - Well, you can't win them all.

3* Laslow - Hitting new lows here.

3* Gunter - ....

4* Barst - For F's sake...

3* Lissa - ...

We're going to pretend that didn't happen.

3* Hana - I recently adopted a rabbit named Hana. I do not need you.

3* Adult Tiki - Finally!

3* Clair - Cool, another new unit!

3* Bartre - There are several 3* green units I could really use. None of them start with a B.

4* Virion - Not sure if I have anyone that might actually want Astra and Seal Speed, so maybe I'll just raise this one to L40 and feed him all the other Virions.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on June 30, 2017, 05:15:41 AM
Sully also has Swordbreaker 2 which is something I guess (I've only gotten Abel once and I fed him to Eliwood). Gunter, Barst, and Bartre all have decent skills too so at least you got that.

I'll be saving my orbs for now. The only unit I feel like has a really nice skill to pass around is Frederick's Seal Atk/Spd, and pulling colorless hell hoping to get that one unit doesn't seem like a good idea. Plus I wouldn't feel right feeding a swimsuit Frederick, I'd admire his abs all day.

So news on the next update just dropped (https://fire-emblem-heroes.com/en/topics/index.html?id=detail-20170630). They apparently didn't listen to people annoyed at long playtimes in the Tempest and are adding more modes where you play series of maps. On the bright side, it'll be less painful to level up heroes (staff EXP increase being the most important) and Tempest Trials will be a bit less tedious. Fixing iOS's sound problems made me a bit sad though. Hearing every character in ridiculous baritone was amusing, and I'm sad I didn't have a Hector to use it on.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on June 30, 2017, 07:10:22 AM
I had 220 orbs, so I blew 140 before I got a swimsuit unit... which was Tiki. I'd like to get Robin too, but part of me is worried there's going to be another better banner after this one...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on June 30, 2017, 08:14:59 AM
I have like 75+ orbs, so I figured I might as well try to pull some units. The beach units do have some interesting skills... Here we go. I'm just gojng to grab everything unless it's like 4x red or something.

4* Laslow - He is stalking me... And I don't need that many axe breakers.

4* Sully - Well, draw back is useful.

4* Lukas - Yay, new unit!

4* Peri - I hate her but I didn't have her yet, so whatever!

4* Priscilla - Another new unit!

This was a good pull :D

Next one is going to be even better.

3* Stahl - Well, you can't win them all.

3* Laslow - Hitting new lows here.

3* Gunter - ....

4* Barst - For F's sake...

3* Lissa - ...

We're going to pretend that didn't happen.

3* Hana - I recently adopted a rabbit named Hana. I do not need you.

3* Adult Tiki - Finally!

3* Clair - Cool, another new unit!

3* Bartre - There are several 3* green units I could really use. None of them start with a B.

4* Virion - Not sure if I have anyone that might actually want Astra and Seal Speed, so maybe I'll just raise this one to L40 and feed him all the other Virions.

Your first and third pulls are pretty good there. Assuming the Traits are favorable, you've picked up two units who are a bit further along the powercreep, and one who's still in the War of the Imouto.


I had 220 orbs, so I blew 140 before I got a swimsuit unit... which was Tiki. I'd like to get Robin too, but part of me is worried there's going to be another better banner after this one...

You don't have to worry. This Banner is gonna last all July (although that also means no extra stages/quests for Orbs).


Rage Quit Edit: You know, between the Tempest Torture, the lack of actually addressing the core issue of the T_T, the One-Time-Only Variants 'R' Us Banners, the Never-Changing Stable of 3 Star Fodder, and now this Mario Kart style Voting Gauntlet, I've never been more tempted to reach for the Uninstall button than now (at least the old format never got your hopes up that you were ever going to rank high).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on June 30, 2017, 10:30:26 PM
On my first pull, I got Summer Tiki. That's some good luck there.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 01, 2017, 06:15:08 AM
On my first pull, I got Summer Tiki. That's some good luck there.

Took my second pull of the season to get her. Of course she had to be +Res/-Def. Ugh (at least she won't be hard to level given that every Axe user on the team wants her around for that delicious SP multiplier).

The rest of the pull was naught but 4 stars of Laslow, Gordin, Jeorge and Donnel.

Also, it feels like I've gotten quite a few 5 star units lately, but that's probably due to me Feathering up a bunch of 4 stars all at once (namely Camus, Xander and Cecilia for Mounted Emblem shenanigans).


Third pull of the month got me a 4 star Roy, a 3 star Jagen, Shanna, Palla and little else of value (hi Niles).


Oh god why!? Edit: Welp. No sooner than coming off the end of that awful VG affair do we see what fresh hell awaits us on Friday with the start of the next Tempest Torture. I really hope you like Gaiden because that's the theme and its still going to require getting 99,999 points for all the prizes (with probably another Seal at 20k and 50k, and two Tobins at 10k and 30k, though he'll probably be just as skillless as Masked Marth). And as a bonus, unless you pulled a Gaiden character (not named Celica or Genny because they don't count), your only bonus character is going to be Anna until Tobin or until you do (and you need either Alm, Faye, Boey or Mae to get the 40% modifier). And on top of all of that, I hope you can tolerate the Gaiden map music because several of those maps just suck to play on normally (like that Boat map with the Lunge/Drawback asshats and the firing squad backing them, or that Fear Mountain map with the box of defensive tiles surrounded by walls and guarded by a mount), nevermind having to deal with them through the random tedium of the terrible Tempest Torture.

The one upside is that I have a larger stable of level 40 5 star units sporting Inheritance (including a Boey in need of SP), though I still need to grind like a motherfucker.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 03, 2017, 07:26:31 AM
As usual a Fates waifu won the VG. I have to say I really don't like the new multiplier system. It still didn't really allow for any upsets (even if it did it'd feel like a cheap win) and it basically tells everyone who wants to sleep like a normal person to suck it. Naturally I didn't get like 80% of the multipliers when they were up because I was either sleeping or busy.

As for the upcoming Tempest Trial...if nothing else Normal/Hard mode apparently gives more points now. Depending on how big of an increase it is it might be a nice option if you want a low-pressure way of doing Tempest Trials.

Kind of annoyed that I can't use Celica for the bonus, but I guess I should be thankful I at least have an option in Mae.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on July 04, 2017, 04:17:36 AM
I'm just glad I got a new phone now. My old one kept nearly overheating, meaning I could do maybe 2/3 of a T_T run before having to let it cool down a little.

Anyway, orbs! Characters!

3* Laslow - Bad start
3* Matthew - Well, atleast it was not plain Gaius. That would have stung.
3* Matthew - ... Why do you hate me so?
5* Bikini Robin - Aw, look who tipped the scales! :D
3* Oboro - Look, if I had to pick a waifu, you'd be really high on the list. However, that does not mean I want a harem's worth of you.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 04, 2017, 08:33:07 AM
Welp. After burning who knows how many Stamina Drinks, 20k Feathers to promote Cecilia, and some choice Inheritance fodder, I've finally got Infernal Clarisse. And all it took was realizing that running a second Blue unit was far more effective than running a Green unit. >.<

At least I don't mind having a 5 star Cecilia as she was pretty good waifu material.

And on that note, I've pulled again. Managed to net a 3 star Oboro (I needed a second one for more SI), a 4 star Beruka and Niles (at least at 4 star, they have things people might want to Inherit like Iceburg or Glimmer....ugh), a 4 star Lucius (Merging for more SP woot), and 5 star Mist (welp, on the one hand, I wasn't going to side with her on Imouto Wars anyways, on the other, another T_T is around the corner and I could use a new Staffbot to train; now if only her Traits weren't +Atk/-HP).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 06, 2017, 06:56:36 AM
So daily orbs are back for a bit, and we just got access to a ton of free orbs. The Squad Assault mission is pretty tough- you're not allowed any deaths and the enemy stats are pretty inflated, so you need a diverse group of good units to clear. None of the enemy units have skills outside their weapons though, so that's nice. Anytime I used a 4* it was either a Dancer, one with a Gem Weapon or Nino.

Currently sitting just north of 100 orbs, and I'll probably have something like 130 once I clear all the new battles. I considered rolling on the new banner, but Clair's kind of a crappy unit and the game's still not friendly to defense-heavy units like Lukas. I don't want another killer staff that badly.

In other news, it's likely the seal reward for the new Tempest Trial is one that synergizes with windsweep/watersweep- it pretends you have +5 SPD whenever its calculating skill effects. Nice that they're trying to make other playstyles more useful, but I can't think of a lot of cases where I'd want a high-SPD unit to sacrifice being able to double in exchange for not getting countered. It might be slightly useful for Kagero and I guess it might be fun to screw around with on debuff characters with Savage Blow or something (I'd say Poison Strike if it didn't take up the same slot as windsweep/watersweep).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 06, 2017, 09:42:02 AM
Yeah, there's a ton of new things to do between now and the next T_T, including the first Bound Heroes Battle. Which are basically GHeBs, but with crappier rewards (9 Orbs aren't so bad, but compared to the characters and the occasional Feathers we were getting, especially the last couple of them, its not exactly a trade up).

That said, I've cleared them out already (my G Tomebreaker Sanaki destroys the Green Mage and weakens Alm, my 5 star Cordelia wrecks everybody barring the Green Mage and the Infernal Emerald Axe Peg, Olivia Dances people out of harms way, and my Reposition Palla gives Cody enough Spd to double the Lance Cav on Infernal as well as being able to chokepoint and eventually defeat the Axe Peg). I may have burned 3 Stamina Potions (mostly because I was being dumb and not taking the time to properly set up my Olivia and Palla so that they could fish Cordelia out of the fire and not get roasted in the process) and an extra 3 star Palla in the process (I already had Reposition on Palla, but she was still 30~ish SP away from actually learning it).


You're Pulling Me Edit: Managed to scrounge up enough Orbs for another pull, 1 Green, 2 Blues and 2 Reds. The results were a 3 star Lon'qu (fodder), a 3 star Female Corrin (half decent), a 4 star Marth (my 4th one of these guys, I've really got to promote one of them), a 5 star Sheena (:bisonyes:) and a 5 star Summer Robin (:bisonyes:). This was a good pull (especially since my Sheena turned out to have +Def/-Res so her offense doesn't suck out loud, and Summer Robin's +HP/-Def which is far more ehh, but her A skill does help her out here).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on July 06, 2017, 11:02:08 AM
I forget to check earlier, but after leveling up my Bikini Robin using some Chain Challenges, it turns out she's +spd and -res, which is really good. 37 speed while still having decent to good everything else is well, really good.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 07, 2017, 06:02:29 AM
So Tempest Trials mk 2 impressions.

It seems like they've made the Speed requirement a little more lax and generous (although it could be the same because I rarely, if ever, got it above a B rank), and they've added daily quests just to add even more pressure to do this daily for two whole weeks provide some extra rewards for sticking with it.

That said, its still a fucking slog. All the maps are related to the Gaiden ones which range from the early Alm ones, which aren't so bad, to shit like the Graveyard (have fun with your mounted emblem team) to the Boat with the firing range. Haven't seen the Fear Mountain one or the BHeB's Zophia Temple stage yet. The final stage can be either fairly simple or a total clusterfuck depending on the presence of Dancers or Wings of Mercy. The main boss this time around is indeed Celica and basically demands a solid Blue Mage, preferably with R. Tomebreaker. Fortunately, the stage itself provides some nice cover terrain for you to use for once, which is a godsend because you're getting accosted from two fronts, and you're even provided with a nice safe spot to lure Celica on. And yes, the change to make it so that enemies stay dead/carry over current HP totals below the reduction point does help.

But yeah, the mode's still a fucking slog (I've run Lunatic 2 two times already, failed on the last stage once, and beat it on Lunatic 1 once and I've only just made it above 2100 points; all of the reward tiers are the same as last time). The two Seals are a Resistance +1 seal, and the Combat Skill Spd +5 Buff (that one's gonna be awkward; also I kinda wished that they reoffered Quickened Pulse for those of us who just were not able to earn it last time; makes grinding the 50k for the second seal less arduous and you could opt to stop at Tobin 5 star).

Additionally, unlike Masked Marth, Tobin actually comes with his own skills this time around. Unfortunately, they're nothing to write home about (he gets Armorslayer+, Pivot, Attack +3, and Seal Spd 3). Hopefully, he'll have bigger stats like Donnel to compensate.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 07, 2017, 06:31:56 AM
I think he's a trainee and thus has a high stat sum like Donnie, but his spread is terribad. He's really balanced, kinda like Roy, which is one way to say he sucks at everything.

As for me, I think I might actually grind Hard mode with random characters, so I can get more than just the point rewards. All my best guys have maxed Hero Merit and thousands of SP. Hell, I even considered maybe leveling up in the Tempest...but I doubt I'll actually follow through on that.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 07, 2017, 10:00:28 AM
I guess I should describe my current teams.

Team 1: 5* Cain (+Spd/-Atk; Inheritance: Shove, Atk +2), 5* Boey (+Res/-Def; Inheritance: Spur Atk 1), 5* Ephraim (+Atk/-HP; Inheritance: Drawback, Res +2), 5* Bride Lyn (+HP/-Def; Inheritance: Spur Spd 3).
Team 2: 5* Camus (Neutral; Inheritance: Swap, Quick Riposte 1), 5* Klein (+Res/-HP; Inheritance: Reciprocal Aid), 5* Fae (+HP/-Res; Inheritance: Drawback, Spd +1), 5* Xander (Neutral; Inheritance: Shove, Vantage 2).
Team 3: 5* Eliwood (Neutral; Inheritance: Rally Attack), 4* Gunter (+Atk/-Spd; Inheritance: Night Sky, Vantage 2), 4* Ursula (Neutral; Inheritance: Blarblade, R. Tomebreaker 2), 4* Frederick (+Atk/-Res; Inheritance: Fury 1, Fortify Calvary).
My Fourth Team, if I get that far, is usually made up of Spring Lucina, Cordelia and two of Sanaki, Kagero, Camilla, Nino, Palla, Cecilia, or whatever I feel like I might need to clean up.

With these, I can consistently clear Lunatic 2 with an A in Speed for about 650 points per run.

Of course, Hard 2 can relinquish 450 points per run and is generally far less of a headache to run.

And I might also opt for allowing Summer Tiki and Summer Robin instead for massive SP gains (thanks to the double SP weekends, I can get a team of Lance or Axe users to acquire 12 SP per kill, its nuts).


One More Thing Edit: Kinda missed it earlier, but the one thing they really did do to cut down on the T_T grind is setting the second Seal reward on the 40k tier instead of the 50k tier. Other than some Universal Crystals at 50k, everything north of that are Orbs.


You're Fucking Kidding Me Edit: Welp. Got my first unwinnable (and by unwinnable, I mean for both sides) match on the Graveyard stage. Turns out that Wings of Mercy is so gamebreaking, that it broke the game (thank god for the Surrender button; but they really shouldn't have had a place where Calvary can get into, but not out of, in the first place).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on July 10, 2017, 12:54:00 AM
I had actually decided not to pull any more on the Summer banner for Robin until after the next datamine. Work sucks at the moment though and I needed a pick-me-up on my lunch break. So I decided to gamble with my emotions and hope I'd get something good (or otherwise be bitterly disappointed, I guess). But today was a good FE:H day for me: I only drew 3 Orbs and the third was Robin. :)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 10, 2017, 06:28:05 AM
Hone Attack for the new banner is kinda disappointing. I have an army of 3* Corrin Fs sitting around looking pretty so I can drop 2k feathers if I really needed another one. Nino's a good unit but she's pretty common, and the banner lacks Olivia (just as well since I'm guessing anybody pulling is aiming for Sanaki).

Week's ending and sadly I didn't get a defense win on Arena this week, so I'll miss out on those feathers. I'm blaming Alfonse, he's a terrible unit compared to Sharena and Anna. I'm not sure how to even build the guy properly...I put Drag Back and Dragon Fang on the guy but it really isn't working all that great. People seem to love sticking Defiant Defense and Brash Assault on him, but I don't see how that can ever be useful because Defiant skills are wasted in this game's one shot fests.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 10, 2017, 06:54:53 AM
Hone Attack for the new banner is kinda disappointing. I have an army of 3* Corrin Fs sitting around looking pretty so I can drop 2k feathers if I really needed another one. Nino's a good unit but she's pretty common, and the banner lacks Olivia (just as well since I'm guessing anybody pulling is aiming for Sanaki).

Week's ending and sadly I didn't get a defense win on Arena this week, so I'll miss out on those feathers. I'm blaming Alfonse, he's a terrible unit compared to Sharena and Anna. I'm not sure how to even build the guy properly...I put Drag Back and Dragon Fang on the guy but it really isn't working all that great. People seem to love sticking Defiant Defense and Brash Assault on him, but I don't see how that can ever be useful because Defiant skills are wasted in this game's one shot fests.

Hone Attack is alright at least if you're looking for some good C Skill fodder (Klein might appreciate it at least), plus you can drop a set down on a horse and then focus on Inheriting Armor Blows 1 & 2 or.... you know, all of the Atk/Spd Unit Type Buffs are on units that only have Unit Type Buffs as the only thing worth inheriting (Gunter, Gwendolyn and Hinoka, I'm looking at you).

As for the Arena, it seems that they're back to only counting the value of the highest defeated team versus the combined total, so nobody's really getting good Defense scores short of running an anti-whaling team. My problem is having to run the Arena 7 more times to clear the last mission (yes, I'm getting demoted either way, no I don't particularly care about the lost Orb this time around due to T_T and the fact that my reasons for upping my Barracks have changed to allow more space for Inheritance Fodder, since all these GHeB and 5 star units are taking up so much space these days).

As for my T_T progress, I'm about 10k behind where I want to be right now (I'm at roughly 20k right now, plenty of time to get Effective Spd +5 Seal, but getting to the 99,999 Orbs is looking like a pipe dream again). I've lost a great deal of motivation for this again, especially since I'm finally trying to wrap up Echoes as well as make some headway into Soul Calibur 4 (I'm taking a break from Tekken 6 for now). And of course, IRL is making me pay attention to it again.

At least running the T_T this time isn't nearly as asshole-ish since the maps are generally better designed (except that Graveyard) and the quality of life features make failure less of a penalty. Also helps having a stock of units well suited to the enemies this time (although sometimes, there are battles with nothing but Blue Mages and a Kagero or a Dancer just to fuck with me, as I don't have a good anti-Blue Tome user right now).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on July 10, 2017, 11:17:55 AM
My main T_T team this time:
5* Alm - The healer of the team thanks to Falchion + Renewal + Reciprocal Aid. Occassionally smashes dragons.
5* Sanaki - My green mage counter. Also good at nuking things and boosting the attack of others.
5* Spring Camilla - Works as a counter for neutral units and anything blue thanks to Gronnraven and Triangle Adept. Even archers have a tough time dealing with her. ... I really hate that she is this good.
5* Camus - A very versatile unit thanks to Vantage, Gradivus and a good stat spread.

They can often make it to Celica, though I haven't been able to clear that map with this team yet.

When team Alm falls, I send in the cavalry.

If they fail, it's time for the charge of the glass cannon brigade, featuring the amazing +atk Klein, our lovable Linde who eats reds (and anything with low res, really) for breakfast, and a random 4* Olivia. Oh, and okay, Fae. She's there to drag them out of harm's way. Drag on, little dragon!

The theoretical fourth team stars Bikini Robin, Nino, some random sword dude(tte) and whatever. Nowi, maybe.

Edit: I decided I need a 5* Nino. In all these months the game only gave me one 3* Nino, so I think I deserve this.

Three colourless and two blue. That's just... No.

3* Niles - Well, the first two letters are the same...

Next up... 5 red.

Seriously?

Are you kidding me?

I'm not aiming for Sanaki! I have a perfectly good Sanaki taking a tiny break from laying waste to the T_T!

3* Sophia - I cannot express this disappointment in words, so here's a sad face that does no justice to this situation :(

Next... Oh my god! Finally! ONE green!

4* Cherche - Well, atleast it's not something that starts with a B.

Next one is also just one green. This game hates me :(

4* Arthur - See? It hates me!

Four red, one green. Could be worse.

4* Cherche.

Now I just need to throw out some (green coloured) junk and I'm ready for more disappointment.

Oh, the game froze. Cool.

Okay, I'm just going to speed through my bad luck.

3* Cecilia - That's like, number 13?
3* Frederick - Ugh.
4* Adult Tiki - Actually, I'm happy with this! This is good skill fodder for my other dragons :D
3* Bartre - I'm going to barf...

And the final one...
5* Nino - Yay! -atk but +spd. Not ideal, but considering her tome, damage output won't be much of an issue anyway. Welcome to the team, Nino!

Now I just need to feed my old 4* to Cecilia.

Edit: No wait, my old Nino is +spd, - res. It makes more sense to promote her to 5* and feed my new 5* to my best Cecilia.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 10, 2017, 06:58:50 PM
I wish I had a Spring Camilla. I wish they didn't make a limited-time unit a wall to having a really good flier team. Maybe in like a year they'll add Reina for a flying bow, but you just know they'll give her a spear.

Also worth noting that some people actually do run -atk +spd Nino so that she can prevent some key one shots, most importantly Reinhardt. -HP is the most popular way to go for her, but a Reinhardt with Death Blow and Hone Cavalry will one-shot a -HP Nino from full health even if she's running Fury. -RES is even easier of course. +RES obviously survives Reinhardt a lot easier if you want to take the hit on SPD. Being unable to bait Reinhardt really hurts a green tome so I guess take that into consideration before choosing which Nino to cook and feed to your Cecelia (personally I'd feed her to Camilla instead though...Spring Camilla with a Blade Tome is like 80% of a good flying team).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on July 11, 2017, 02:26:50 AM
I... haven't really had that much trouble with Reinhardt yet. Nine out of ten times I manage to isolate him and have Klein deal with him.

Plus, even a -res Nino can stop Reinhardt as long as he isn't fully boosted (as in: on the start of the second turn because the AI is stupid). It'll be even eaier if I do have spur and/or fortify resistance active. Some of my frequently used Arena units do run skills like that. What I am missing, is a green unit that can deal good damage, so that's something I'm taking into consideration.

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personally I'd feed her to Camilla instead though...Spring Camilla with a Blade Tome is like 80% of a good flying team.

I really, really don't like Camilla though. She's a useful pair of melons covered in some leftover cloth, but I don't like her as a character. What I do find pretty funny is an archer running up to her, shooting her and then dying from her special. ... Unless it happens to an archer I like, in which case I just feel bad for them.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 11, 2017, 05:31:53 AM
I'm not a big fan of the Fates cast in general, but I think the only one I actively dislike is Peri, not just because of her character itself, but she also made other, better characters worse by her presence. Luckily for me Peri's a middling unit in this game so I can crush her and give threaten defense to someone else.

I'm certainly not going to be one to dismiss the "I don't like her" argument, gotta balance having a good team with having the right husbandos/waifus. I'm SI-ing one of my Sophias despite her being one of the worst units in the game (still way better than Odin).

Speaking of characters you like sucking in Heroes...I've been playing Genealogy for the first time. Makes me sad that Sigurd is probably doomed to be a crappy unit whenever he shows up in Heroes because they decided to give Tyrfing such a stupid effect. The guy's basically soloing entire maps for me in his home game.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on July 11, 2017, 05:53:07 AM
Hey, don't feel bad about having a L40 Sophia. I have one as well. She was my Hector counter for the first month or so, and now she's still nice to have around because of all those new modes were you're expected to use multiple teams. It's good to have multiple units that more or less fill the same niche and Sophia is available for everyone. Plus, if you are going to use her, that means you'll be getting up to 2000 feathers for doing so. That's always nice.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 11, 2017, 07:12:59 AM
So the next GHeB has been announced, and to nobody's surprise its the "Clown Prince of Getting Dunked On" Berkut. Also, the next event is the second Artist Challenge.


Edit: What was surprising though are the two new banners even though Bikini Party Summer banner is still going on. On the one hand, its nice to see more non-Archanea/Ylisse/Fatespan (and this finally gives Valentia an actual roster, even if they're all locked to 4 star or higher), on the other, Valentia is basically Archanea's redheaded stepchild (and that'd even explain all of the redheads in Gaiden/Echoes). That being said, the powercreep is real (even if it is a nice nod to Gaiden's/Echoes' Killer Weapons) as well as skills and weapons designed to fuck over the current Triangle Adept/Mounted Emblem heavy meta.


I'm not a big fan of the Fates cast in general, but I think the only one I actively dislike is Peri, not just because of her character itself, but she also made other, better characters worse by her presence. Luckily for me Peri's a middling unit in this game so I can crush her and give threaten defense to someone else.

I'm certainly not going to be one to dismiss the "I don't like her" argument, gotta balance having a good team with having the right husbandos/waifus. I'm SI-ing one of my Sophias despite her being one of the worst units in the game (still way better than Odin).

Speaking of characters you like sucking in Heroes...I've been playing Genealogy for the first time. Makes me sad that Sigurd is probably doomed to be a crappy unit whenever he shows up in Heroes because they decided to give Tyrfing such a stupid effect. The guy's basically soloing entire maps for me in his home game.

Yeah. Fates has a pretty bad cast overall. Everybody's either a satellite to the Royals or is a Royal/Retainer satellite to Corrin, who was little more than a massive dork and a hypocritical idiot, with the exceptions of Nyx, Mozu, Hayato and maybe the furries (and of these, the first one is barely even there and Mozu is a perpetual 5th wheel).

As for Sigrud, it wouldn't be the first Jugdral disappointment with Lachesis being reduced to a Staffbot and having no trace of her ridiculous Master Knight class, and it probably wouldn't be the last. I just hope that Ayra/Larcei doesn't get lost in a sea of Red Infantry and Ishtar doesn't get trampled by Mounted Emblem.


Hey, don't feel bad about having a L40 Sophia. I have one as well. She was my Hector counter for the first month or so, and now she's still nice to have around because of all those new modes were you're expected to use multiple teams. It's good to have multiple units that more or less fill the same niche and Sophia is available for everyone. Plus, if you are going to use her, that means you'll be getting up to 2000 feathers for doing so. That's always nice.

I have a Sophia on the stove that I've been cooking up off and on for a while now. Too much effort to Feather her ass, too little return to put serious effort towards (especially since Sanaki does everything she does, but better).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 12, 2017, 06:07:56 AM
All the Jugdral disappointments are just them trying to make up for Reinhardt deleting 80% of the roster.

Having not played Echoes yet I'm not too excited about the new banners, but I did notice quite a bit of power creep in those skills. The Slayer weapons especially, they're just straight up better Killer weapons and there's basically 0 reason to use silver weapons anymore either.

Lots of cavalry killers in the Alm banner, but I don't think that'll solve much since killing Horse emblem was never really the issue, it's that horse mages have a 5-square threat radius and Reinhardt/Blade Tomes can one-shot the majority of the cast. If anything it seems like that Cancel Affinity skill will be a buff to Reinhardt because Triangle Adept Greens were one of the low-cost ways of easily dealing with him and he doesn't get much use out of the B slot anyway. I think anyway, the description for the skill is confusing as hell.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on July 12, 2017, 06:44:08 AM
All the Jugdral disappointments are just them trying to make up for Reinhardt deleting 80% of the roster.

I realised a little while ago that FE Heroes has actually been pretty kind to me. Like, all I ever wanted was a Takumi. He's one of my favourites and he was amazing in early meta.

Instead the game handed me characters like Reinhardt, +atk Klein (that's his name now, '+atk Klein'), Linde, Spring Camilla (ugh), Elise - all characters that are considered really good in current meta for various reasons. Not to mention the 5* stars are/were life/bonus savers in the T_T, like Sanaki and Alm.

...

Still don't know what I should do with a dozen 3*Pallas though...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 12, 2017, 10:35:16 AM
All the Jugdral disappointments are just them trying to make up for Reinhardt deleting 80% of the roster.

I realised a little while ago that FE Heroes has actually been pretty kind to me. Like, all I ever wanted was a Takumi. He's one of my favourites and he was amazing in early meta.

Instead the game handed me characters like Reinhardt, +atk Klein (that's his name now, '+atk Klein'), Linde, Spring Camilla (ugh), Elise - all characters that are considered really good in current meta for various reasons. Not to mention the 5* stars are/were life/bonus savers in the T_T, like Sanaki and Alm.

...

Still don't know what I should do with a dozen 3*Pallas though...

Promote them and give all your fliers Goad Fliers.

Also, I wouldn't count Takumi out just yet. That Reverse Affinity skill lets Takumi bypass TA Raven tomes and his other major hard counter was an event exclusive Bride Lyn's Candlelight Staff. That being said, his third hard counter, Ursula sporting Blarblade/+ (or Cecilia and Gronnblade/+ if you're feeling saucy) and Mounted Emblem buffs, still oneshots him, and he's no longer the big fish in the small pond in terms of Distant/Close Counter havers.


Also Hathen, you should totally play Echoes. Its a breath of fresh air compared to Fates, with a decent story featuring stakes, characters with actual relationships to one another, mechanics that aren't nearly as bloated or gimmicky as Fates (including one that I think the series won't be able to do without from now on), and cutscenes that are actually relevant to what's going on versus "Let me shove my barely covered tits and ass into the camera.". Yeah, sure, there's a bit of NES era jank that was also preserved (best jank is Palla still pining for Abel even though that was probably a misallocated pointer originally; worst jank are Priestess's 4 move though at least it no longer requires taking them to Level 20 to promote them), and yeah, its definitely a Kaga era game (gee, barring Miss 'New to Echoes', why do all of Alm's female companions all have prison records?; meanwhile Celica somehow got even more naive in her quest to reclaim her crown of most naive female FE protagonist from Eirika), but its still fun and decently straight forward.

That said, all of the characters in today's banners are both cool and good in Echoes/Gaiden. Gray's the Villager with actual growths (Kliff has the longest spell list and Tobin sucks), Delthea has crazy good Atk growth (for an FE game, nevermind Gaiden) on top of being the game's only other Ragnarok caster, Mathilda is literally the best character in the game (only one other potential Gold Knight can compete with her in stats and he shows up way too late to be useful for anything before the postgame), Saber is Celica's earliest Mercenary (granted they all do the same thing of turning into Anti-Mage Dread Fighters, then promoting back to Villager for infinite levels), Leon's a Gaiden Archer (and in Echoes they're even better due to weapon skills which lets 8 move mounted units with 1~5 range shadows drop a guaranteed double attack with a minimum 40+ percent chance to crit), and Sonya is the other Female Mage (she's sadly not as good as she used to be since she lost her two most damaging spells, and the spells she got in exchange aren't that good and take forever to learn).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 13, 2017, 07:27:15 AM
I'm definitely planning on playing Echoes eventually, I'm just continuing my general habit of not playing a game until like 15 months after it releases, when I get to not spend money on it and just mooch it off one of my brothers.

So anyway Affinity Cancel was fished out immediately following update by people with poor impulse control and...mages can't inherit it. Good move on their part to not buff tomes even more I suppose. Can't say I'm crazy about them basically nerfing TA and Raven tomes though...was it even necessary? TA is counterbalanced by turning said unit completely useless against their weakness whereas Raven tomes are low Mt in exchange for being the only real hard counter to crazy Brave Bow shenanigans. I guess to be fair Colorless units did kind of need a buff in general since there was only really that one build people ever ran with them anymore. Worst part is probably from now we'll be seeing it thrown at us in Tempest Trials and whatnot though, TA was a common low-cost way for players to get flawless runs.

Whatever the case, I'm saved from stopping my Orb hoarding to get what would've been a must-have skill for Reinhardt.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 13, 2017, 01:02:33 PM
I'm definitely planning on playing Echoes eventually, I'm just continuing my general habit of not playing a game until like 15 months after it releases, when I get to not spend money on it and just mooch it off one of my brothers.

So anyway Affinity Cancel was fished out immediately following update by people with poor impulse control and...mages can't inherit it. Good move on their part to not buff tomes even more I suppose. Can't say I'm crazy about them basically nerfing TA and Raven tomes though...was it even necessary? TA is counterbalanced by turning said unit completely useless against their weakness whereas Raven tomes are low Mt in exchange for being the only real hard counter to crazy Brave Bow shenanigans. I guess to be fair Colorless units did kind of need a buff in general since there was only really that one build people ever ran with them anymore. Worst part is probably from now we'll be seeing it thrown at us in Tempest Trials and whatnot though, TA was a common low-cost way for players to get flawless runs.

Whatever the case, I'm saved from stopping my Orb hoarding to get what would've been a must-have skill for Reinhardt.

Yeah. It also completely dicks over the Gem Weapons since any non-Colorless units running Affinity Cancel 3 will either take average damage or 15% less from them and will all but guarantee an extra 15% damage in return. And its a B skill too, so Hector will absolutely love this. Its actually amusing in how this one update just rendered most non-Prf/Tome weapons obsolete or badly nerfed them.

As for the holder of the skill herself, Mathilda is basically Jagen with more Spd and a straight up better weapon. Get her a Mounted Emblem buff (she's closer to Gunter's buff versus Jagen's) and she'll render Jagen completely redundant past Inheritance fodder. And she's specced to fuck up Mounted Tomes as she's a Blue Mount with an Anti-Mount weapon, enough Spd and Res that neither Dire Thunder users can reliably KO her, and has a skill dedicated to dicking over the one Green Tome mount who's probably running TA because her Gronnraven Tome lets her fight Colorless and Blue Units. No idea on how she'd fare against Blarwolf+ Ursula, but Ursula would have to be 5 star to really be able to deal with her (or she can probably just Blarblade it and forget it). Outside of this function though, Mathilda's pretty mediocre all around due to her Awful HP, Mediocre Atk, and Bad Def and having Rally Resistance as her secondary Skill.

The other characters can be summed up as follows:
Gray: Villager mk 3. With more balanced stats versus Donnel's Atk/Def heavy build and less of a need to SI. Good for grinding with as well.
Saber: Oh look, the game's trying to make a Dread Fighter. Unfortunately his weapon and Shield Pulse are kinda wasted on trying to keep Aegis up all the time.
Leon: Virion+.
Delthea: Buffs Atk like crazy (Deathblow, Atk Drive and Dark Aura's effect) and otherwise has a similar stat spread to Linde and Mae of Large Atk, Spd and Res and not much else. Miracle's kind of a waste on her.
Sonya: Green nuke. Plenty of damage potential through Above Average Atk, Dark Excalibur's effect, Moonblow, Mirror Strike and Res Ploy which runs off her High Res. No Def though and only Mediocre Spd.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on July 13, 2017, 06:22:38 PM
So it has been a while since I drew anything (and earned all of your ire). Figured I might as well draw for Delthea because I did enjoy her in Echoes. So here is a rough summary of my draws today.

First Draw: Oh for fuck's sake, no blues? Ugh. I guess I'll draw green since I have too many reds. *gets a 5* Fae* Oh come on. I already have her.

Second Draw: Well at least I got a blue this time. *gets a Mathilda* Oh come on!

Several draws later: Linde? What is going on here?

Several more draws later: New character? Lukas? Oh fuck m...oh 4* ok, that works fine.

Around 150 or so total orbs later: Finally Delthea. Hopefully, it will be a while before the next character I am interested in so I can soak up the free orbs before having to draw again.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on July 13, 2017, 11:28:19 PM
So, I was all like, "Oh yeah, I'll pull a few blue orbs for a Delthea. But just a few."

I literally did pull 3, and somehow managed to get 2 Mathildas.... which is great on one hand, but she looks pretty bad on the other...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 14, 2017, 01:00:55 AM
So, I was all like, "Oh yeah, I'll pull a few blue orbs for a Delthea. But just a few."

I literally did pull 3, and somehow managed to get 2 Mathildas.... which is great on one hand, but she looks pretty bad on the other...

You should see what they did to Sonya. Talk about redistributing the wealth.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on July 14, 2017, 03:58:12 AM
I let a friend pull for me yesterday and while I didn't get any fancy 5*s, she did get me the missing (skill fodder) link in my Flier Emblem team: a 4* Caeda.

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You should see what they did to Sonya. Talk about redistributing the wealth.

She was much sexier in Echoes. Some artists just don't understand the art of leaving something to the imagination :/
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 14, 2017, 10:09:23 PM
Well, Cancel Affinity is an incredibly powerful skill so have fun giving that to whoever I guess.

I've always hated bikini armor and barely-there mage stripper clothing myself (especially the former), though I don't think Sonya is nearly the worst example of it, which I guess could say plenty too. With this game in particular I think what annoys me more is just the generic moeblob anime girl art a lot of the characters have gotten. Lachesis is a good example, it's like the artist didn't even try making her look like the character. I hear a lot of people complain about the art for Eliwood/Athena, and I found it odd at first too but I liked it a bit more after getting used to it. I'll still take that style over a lot of the other ones. I really like the art from AKIRA (Hector/Lon'qu/Raven/Olivia), but my favorite art in the game is definitely from Yamada Akihiro (Gunter/Jagen/Zephiel/Ogma)- the guy even goes the extra mile to draw completely unique art for the characters' specials, which none of the other artists have done.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 15, 2017, 12:07:50 AM
Well, Cancel Affinity is an incredibly powerful skill so have fun giving that to whoever I guess.

I've always hated bikini armor and barely-there mage stripper clothing myself (especially the former), though I don't think Sonya is nearly the worst example of it, which I guess could say plenty too. With this game in particular I think what annoys me more is just the generic moeblob anime girl art a lot of the characters have gotten. Lachesis is a good example, it's like the artist didn't even try making her look like the character. I hear a lot of people complain about the art for Eliwood/Athena, and I found it odd at first too but I liked it a bit more after getting used to it. I'll still take that style over a lot of the other ones. I really like the art from AKIRA (Hector/Lon'qu/Raven/Olivia), but my favorite art in the game is definitely from Yamada Akihiro (Gunter/Jagen/Zephiel/Ogma)- the guy even goes the extra mile to draw completely unique art for the characters' specials, which none of the other artists have done.

From what I've found online, the artist who did Sonya's art is primarily known for drawing Hentai. Although I can't say that I didn't expect this to happen given that Lyn also got a boob job and she was one of the game's headliners along with Ms. "the Tits, Crotch and Ass are down here" Camilla.

As for Lachesis, for what its worth, at least the artist gave back her TCG skirt.

(https://serenesforest.net/wp-content/gallery/genealogy-of-the-holy-war/game-manual/Rackesis.jpg)
(https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/feheroes.gamepedia.com/thumb/f/f5/Full_Portrait_Lachesis.png/500px-Full_Portrait_Lachesis.png)

Yeah, they moeblobbed her. But then, its not the 90s anymore.

Also Eliwood and Athena have nothing on Stonk Lloyd.

(https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/feheroes.gamepedia.com/thumb/2/21/Full_Attack_Lloyd.png/526px-Full_Attack_Lloyd.png)
(http://fi.somethingawful.com/safs/smilies/1/9/stonk.001.gif)

And yeah. I agree that the Twelve Kingdoms artist is the best one of the lot, and I'm hoping that they give him a female character to do just for the sake of variety (not that the world doesn't need more buff older men; but he could do a good Ayra, Eyvel or a Lucia that'll freak a lot of shippers out).


As for my T_T progress. I've sadly slowed down considerably as I've only just now obtained Tobin 5 star.


T_T2 Judgement Edit: Progress has picked up a bit and now I've gotten the last major reward. Almost missed a day of the daily T_T quests due to being busy as hell, thankfully LadyHawke came on right before I went to bed and I decided I could play out two Lunatic runs on the side while watching that instead of sleeping. Made it with 10 minutes to spare, which is not bad at all considering that I did it while catching a movie that's spent over a decade on my 'to watch' list.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 19, 2017, 07:35:28 AM
Like usual I'm insane, so I just crossed the 99999 threshold. I might do a few more runs in the remaining time so I can break into rank 5000. Might as well since I'm somewhat close. Got a crapload of Hero Merit out of it like last time.

(http://i.imgur.com/ed11NEv.png?1)

Like I said, I have not played Echoes, but the Tempest this time around has taught me that Mae, is, in fact, bae.

In other news, Berkut is the new GHB but he's apparently a really crappy unit. I guess they decided that giving out Distant Counter horses and a free Lucina were mistakes, so instead they decided all the free units should instead get Armorslayers and Res+ abilities.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 21, 2017, 01:12:50 AM
(http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/negativeman-55f.png)

It took me 13 days and 17 hours to make it up to 48k....

I finished with over 70k....

(http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/negativeman-55f.png)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on July 21, 2017, 02:46:29 AM
I aimed for 7000 points a day, something that could easily be done without using stamina bottles and all I had to do on the final day was score 3500 points to get the final reward. It was truly a master plan.

I also got three Bercutes in the meantime. Look at them being adorably obsolete thanks to Camus!

(But I'm still going to raise him to L40 for the orb-rewarding GHB rerun)

Now, in the next few days I want to:
-Finish the chapter 12 maps and quests
-Finish at the very least the Horse Emblem quests with orbs as rewards
-Complete the 10th stratum infantry quest

And if I'm done with that, I still have a bunch of low priority shard rewarding quests I could do.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 21, 2017, 06:54:14 AM
I didn't use any stamina potions either, but not like it matters since I have over 100 of the things. The only item they seem to be stingy with is Light's Blessings, though those don't see much use anymore either since most of the challenges now don't allow you to use them.

For Tempest, I actually spent quite a few days early on only doing the Hard difficulty because it was a lot less annoying. It's kinda dumb that a perfect run of Hard gets you less points than a barely-cleared Lunatic 7 run though. People really hammered it the last few moments, but I lucked out because I got like rank 4910 or something, so 8000 feathers for me. I hear a lot fewer people participated this time, which makes sense since Tobin is a pretty mediocre unit and the Phantom Speed seal doesn't really seem all that useful. The sweep abilities make it so you can't double so they seem kinda pointless to me. If you really wanted to avoid counters I imagine Firesweep weapons would be a better choice.

Also as much as people are joking about him, Berkut's Lance might actually be kinda useful for a couple builds like Effies with Distant Counter or something, because we all have those spare Hectors sitting around (or even just an Effie). They should totally have a "Units with Distant Counter" banner now since I have over 200 Orbs saved up now and I'm itching to get myself some more useless units. Seriously though, I hope they have a banner I'm interested in soon since it feels weird to hoard and not gamble once a week in a gacha game.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 21, 2017, 08:09:22 AM
I didn't use any stamina potions either, but not like it matters since I have over 100 of the things. The only item they seem to be stingy with is Light's Blessings, though those don't see much use anymore either since most of the challenges now don't allow you to use them.

For Tempest, I actually spent quite a few days early on only doing the Hard difficulty because it was a lot less annoying. It's kinda dumb that a perfect run of Hard gets you less points than a barely-cleared Lunatic 7 run though. People really hammered it the last few moments, but I lucked out because I got like rank 4910 or something, so 8000 feathers for me. I hear a lot fewer people participated this time, which makes sense since Tobin is a pretty mediocre unit and the Phantom Speed seal doesn't really seem all that useful. The sweep abilities make it so you can't double so they seem kinda pointless to me. If you really wanted to avoid counters I imagine Firesweep weapons would be a better choice.

Also as much as people are joking about him, Berkut's Lance might actually be kinda useful for a couple builds like Effies with Distant Counter or something, because we all have those spare Hectors sitting around (or even just an Effie). They should totally have a "Units with Distant Counter" banner now since I have over 200 Orbs saved up now and I'm itching to get myself some more useless units. Seriously though, I hope they have a banner I'm interested in soon since it feels weird to hoard and not gamble once a week in a gacha game.

You say this, but Hard 5 really was the way to go. Who cares about Stamina when your San Score is on the line. I was making 2/3s the amount of points in a mere fraction of the time since I could just set the game to Auto-Battle and not give a fuck anymore. You could easily make 2000 points on a single Stamina Bar in like 20 minutes all said and done, versus the 3300~ish points on Lunatic 7 which took like an hour per run on a good day.

And the only reason why I chugged the 10 S. Drinks was to prove a point to myself (plus I had gotten like 20 of the damn things through the Daily Quests alone and I hardly ever use the damn things beyond solving GHeBs and T_T & Monthly Tower Quest grinds). That point being that the current T_T structure makes the Lunatic difficulty level completely redundant/a trap for those too hung up on getting the most out of their Stamina (no amount of action economics justifies spending half a day on 99/99 Stamina because you're either too busy or too worn out to justify spending yet another half a day grinding the mode and getting pissed off at the game's bullshit).

As for the Banners, my problem is that I actually like several of the units they're offering (hell the Calvary one they just put up are all units I don't have and really want; Olwen for a Reinhardt-lite, or at least an alternative to Ursula, Titania to give me the last available Green Horse unit to train up and employ in my Mounted Emblem teams, and Eldigan to all but wrap up my Physical Red Horse unit collection (I'd only be missing Luke at that point); nevermind all the Gaiden/Echoes units that have been up for grabs, as I still only have Boey and Tobin from that game), but because July's Bikini Party Summer Banner is still going on, I've been funneling all my Orbs into pulling Gaius and Frederick, and I dread August as it might also have its own Bikini Party Summer Banner for to hoover all my Orbs into.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 21, 2017, 10:25:40 AM
I've actually never used the auto battle feature. Do you have to click auto battle every turn or does it keep going for one map? Might take your advice on being lazy like that next time around since I'm not doing myself any good hoarding all these stamina potions. Though really, I still would prefer that they redesign the way Tempest is done in general.

Admittedly I'm mildly interested in the cavalier banner as well, especially Eldigan since Genealogy is fresh in my mind, but I'm holding off on rolling because if I'm going to save for a Horse Emblem member from Genealogy, it'll be Sigurd. Also from what I hear, the Choose Your Legends banner isn't that far off, where we'll get getting some kind of special version of Ike/Roy/Lyn/Lucina (because there aren't enough Lucina variants in the game).

And from what I hear Olwen is actually better than Reinhardt if you invest into her, but she takes a lot more work. Reinhardt's advantage is that he's a killing machine out of the box, but he doesn't improve a ton with merges and skill inheritance because he's a pretty one-dimensional unit. He only really cares about extra Attack from merges and Death blow and his B slot is mostly filler (most seem to go with Lancebreaker, I have Quick Reposte 2 on mine). Olwen, on the other hand, is speedy enough to run a quad build with Dire Thunder or switch up to a Blade Tome. Being speedy also means she can get use out of stuff like Desperation in the B slot. Problem is all those builds need tons and tons of SI and Olwen is 5* only so if you want merges of her you need to whale hardcore into this banner.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 21, 2017, 04:00:44 PM
I've actually never used the auto battle feature. Do you have to click auto battle every turn or does it keep going for one map? Might take your advice on being lazy like that next time around since I'm not doing myself any good hoarding all these stamina potions. Though really, I still would prefer that they redesign the way Tempest is done in general.

Admittedly I'm mildly interested in the cavalier banner as well, especially Eldigan since Genealogy is fresh in my mind, but I'm holding off on rolling because if I'm going to save for a Horse Emblem member from Genealogy, it'll be Sigurd. Also from what I hear, the Choose Your Legends banner isn't that far off, where we'll get getting some kind of special version of Ike/Roy/Lyn/Lucina (because there aren't enough Lucina variants in the game).

And from what I hear Olwen is actually better than Reinhardt if you invest into her, but she takes a lot more work. Reinhardt's advantage is that he's a killing machine out of the box, but he doesn't improve a ton with merges and skill inheritance because he's a pretty one-dimensional unit. He only really cares about extra Attack from merges and Death blow and his B slot is mostly filler (most seem to go with Lancebreaker, I have Quick Reposte 2 on mine). Olwen, on the other hand, is speedy enough to run a quad build with Dire Thunder or switch up to a Blade Tome. Being speedy also means she can get use out of stuff like Desperation in the B slot. Problem is all those builds need tons and tons of SI and Olwen is 5* only so if you want merges of her you need to whale hardcore into this banner.

Auto-Bat is in the options menu and only runs for the remainder of the fight or until you switch it off (your 'bottom of the screen' options are replaced with the switch off option) so you'll only have to reapply it at the start of every battle. You definitely want to turn off all animations though because it'll want to sit through them all and that'll take forever. And you definitely need to keep an eye on it as the AI plays your units super aggressively and will occasionally do dumb shit like have a range 1 unit try to pursue a range 2 unit around an obstacle, form a chokepoint where it'll opt to use the staffbot (due to using the combat units as the block) to try to pelt the enemy units rather than move her to allow your actual combat units to fight which murders your Speed score something awful, or it'll happily throw a strong but frail Sword user against a Sapphire Lance user with Triangle Adept because the unit doesn't have anything better to do other than Tora! Tora! Tora!.


GHeB Edit: Got 'er done. Sadly it cost me my 3 star Setsuna (I still have my 4 star one, but her traits suck, which is why I wanted a new one with better traits to replace her, which I had until I had Cecilia eat her), but on the up side, I now have room for Hard mode Berkut as well as a Cecilia who's even more of an anti-Bow unit now, meanwhile Summer Tiki has now joined the 5 star level 40 club.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on July 24, 2017, 04:44:37 AM
Ugh... I really wanted a Leon, but the game was all like: here, have five Stahls, this +spd, -def Lucina, and three Corrins. If I throw in a Raigh, that's close enough to what you actually wanted, right?

That Lucina is nice, but she would have been a lot nicer if she'd arrived 2+ months ago :(

My Masked Marth - who's totally not Lucina, really - is a Falchion Healer, so I guess I'll give this one Fury, Desperation and Ardent Sacrifice.

Edit: Another attempt ended in Firs.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 24, 2017, 06:23:31 AM
Leo's one of the characters I actually liked in Fates and I wouldn't mind pulling another Klein after I killed the first one I got for Reinhardt. Subaki can get ground up for his Quick Riposte 3 if I get him.

Also I need to get my gambling fix already.

Naturally the game decides I get to have a crapload of green orbs for this banner. Whatever, I'll totally get 3 Hectors out of this.

4* Raigh: I think I actually sent every copy of this guy I had back home, so it's nice to get another one, though it's not like I was in a rush since he's like the worst red tome.
4* Frederick: Luna and Wings of Mercy 2 is nice.
4* Sophia: Naturally.
3* Cherche: -ATK, awesome.
4* Titania: Cool, new character. Too bad she's -SPD like almost every decent pull I get.

3* Eliwood: -ATK. Thanks game.
3* Hinata: Always good to see this guy so I can murder him for Fury.
3* Shanna: Would be nice if I got the good skill fodder characters at 4* so I wouldn't have to drop the feathers.
4* Cecilia: -ATK. On a roll here.
3* Serra: Well, Recover and Hone Attack 2 on the same character isn't so bad.

3* Arthur: I'd take Bartre over this guy.
3* Arthur: Or I guess more of him would work too.
4* Gunter: Whee, Hone Cavalry.
3* Sophia: Dragon Fang for everyone.
5* Jeorge: Wrong archer, but I guess it's the thought that counts, IS. At least he isn't -SPD like almost all my 5* pulls have been. -DEF +RES so I guess that goes well with his Prf bow?

Since that reset the pity rate think I'll stop there for now. Still got about 200 Orbs left but I guess I'll save for Choose Your Legends (or whenever my willpower decides to break down next).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on July 27, 2017, 02:32:34 PM
How to clear Lloyd's GHB on Infernal: send in Klein with a harem of Olivias.

(Also, my good Klein currently has 4500+ SP and nothing to use it on. Oops?)

Less great news: pity rate is sitting at 4,25%. Still no Leo.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 28, 2017, 12:20:56 AM
Welp. The Feh livestream has come and gone and with it came both good news and bad news.

First is the fact that if you thought that August's main Focus was going to be CYL, you're going to be disappointed. Instead, its gonna be Bikini Party Summer Nohrian Edition (the upside to this is that its going to come with a Blue Flying Tome user for a better Flier Emblem experience, also Summer Xander will fight with Pool-Toy Lilith while Leo got screwed over with a Tomato Tome and there's no Camilla in sight). Even better still is that the next Voting Gauntlet is between Bikini Party Summers so all bets are fucking off this time around.

For some good news, T_T is indeed getting a Continuous Auto-Battle feature as well as a daily first two run multiplier. As an addition, they're even increasing the HM limit to 3000 and providing two additional scrub tier trials for levels 10 & 20. Unfortunately, the bonus heroes this time are Celica, Genny, Delthea and Sonya for the 40%, and the bonus unit is Clive (which is unsurprising given how underwhelming he looks to be; also, lol if you thought he might have been a GHeB and thus provide some decent Hit&Run fodder).

For some actual good news, Valter will be the next proper GHeB at the end of August (so expect some Sacred Stones love by then). In the meanwhile, we're getting a Cecilia+Lilina BHeB for early August.

For some more awful news, they're adding a second Arena with consumables and a whole new currency type. No idea what the currency means at the moment (impending 6 star rankings in 5....4....3....), but expect whales to make it awful anyways. Especially since you can't just Horse Emblem and forget it (and once again, they provide me with another reason to not just dual-wield Bride Cordelias).

They're also adding a Heroes Catalog for keeping track of whom you've gotten and such, and a period where the 3 star and 4 star rates will swap with each other. Also at least two or three daily log-in events and quests and shit, and perhaps a chance to get some missed seals (come to me Quicken Pulse).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on July 28, 2017, 02:10:36 AM
No melons next banner, hurray!

Was Leo draw by Klein's artist? They look like twins. Oh well. Doesn't matter. All I want is a regular Leo. (But it's adorkable that Beach Leo has a Tomato Tome.)

I really want that Corrin, though. She's perfect for my Flyer Emlem team. I'll replace her tome though. Because I'm totally going to get a Corrin. Totally. (Can I trade in ten of my regular Corrins for a bikini edition?)

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the bonus heroes this time are Celica, Genny, Delthea and Sonya for the 40%

Damnit. I don't have any of those.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 28, 2017, 03:47:24 AM
No melons next banner, hurray!

Was Leo draw by Klein's artist? They look like twins. Oh well. Doesn't matter. All I want is a regular Leo. (But it's adorkable that Beach Leo has a Tomato Tome.)

I really want that Corrin, though. She's perfect for my Flyer Emlem team. I'll replace her tome though. Because I'm totally going to get a Corrin. Totally. (Can I trade in ten of my regular Corrins for a bikini edition?)

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the bonus heroes this time are Celica, Genny, Delthea and Sonya for the 40%

Damnit. I don't have any of those.

Don't worry, I got it wrong. Genny is a 20%er along with Berkut, Alm and Clive, while Gray is hanging with Celica, Delthea and Sonya.

At least we all have Berkut. No word if the 20%ers will get the T_T supaboost, a halfboost or nothing at all (the supaboost gives T_T Bonus Units a +10/+4 to HP/All other stats along with boosted Exp and Sp gains for any T_T battle they take part in.

And on that note, in addition to 4 and 5 star Clives at the usual T_T event character levels of 6k and 30k. There's also a second Breath of Life 1 Seal and an Atk Ploy 1 Seal up for grabs at 12k and 20k (no idea if there'll be a third Seal at 40/50k).

Additionally, and most importantly, it sounds like from August 7th to ????, they're changing both the rarity pull rates as well as making your first pull on a Focus free (that helps in cases like late July where they had like 6 different Focuses running concurrently, with one of them being a limited time seasonal banner).


And while I'm here, I've finally managed to cash in on the Ylisseian Summer banner modifier I managed to rack up. Unfortunately, it was with a 5 star Female Robin again (and yet another Female Corrin (not the recent flier), the rest was trash). I'm probably not going to get Summer Frederick or Gaius. On my first Nohrian Summer pull, I didn't get anything too thrilling, but a second Peri and my first Jakob were good draws.

Also ugh. Most of the Echoes banners are now 5 star exclusives. Yuck. (At least the T_T Banner will give us a second chance at some of them, but I hope you got Saber while you still could.)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 28, 2017, 07:44:28 AM
Quite a bit coming up. The only other mobile game I play with any regularity is Pokemon Go, and the difference in the amount of effort that goes into these two games is like night and day. A year into Pokemon Go and it still is barely a game, half of what's actually there works like garbage and their anniversary event in Chicago was a total disaster.

Anyway lucky for me, I have Celica for the next Tempest, so I won't have to spend orbs trying to pull for a bonus character. Plus the fact I already got 2000 HM on her doesn't matter since they'll be increasing the max.

However since I skipped on the Ylissean Summer Banner it looks like I'll have to try to get a Nohrian swimsuit model to have a unit for the next Voting Gauntlet- Corrin would obviously be best, but I don't want to spend too many orbs before the Hero Fest comes around. It looks like the Hero Fest will have Ninian, Julia, Ike, and Genny, which are all characters I wouldn't mind having.

Whatever the case I'll be holding onto my orbs just a bit longer, because apparently they'll be swapping the 3* and 4* rates on August 7th so I assume it's worth waiting a bit. Plus the whole free first summon thing- I think that'll actually be a permanent thing from now on. It's actually a pretty smart move. The smart dealers give the first hit for free.

The real surprise was Valter though. I figured once they were done marketing Echoes they'd go and market the more popular Elibe characters instead of Magvel. If we're going to get some Sacred Stones love I'm putting my money on getting the royals holding sacred twins, so probably Colorless Innes with Nidhogg, Blue Tana with Vidofnir, Red Joshua with Audhulma, and Green L'Arachel with Ivaldi. If they're feeling like assholes they'll make L'Arachel a staff. Dunno who they'd give Glepnir and Garm to, I guess Knoll and Duessel, but I doubt they're a priority like the royals. I imagine a GHB with Lyon will also follow relatively soon after the Valter one.

In other news, I might actually make it to Tier 20 for the first time after this week. Took a bit of luck but I managed to get a perfect run with a high-score Arena team without dancers or mages sans Reinhardt, who is +1. Doubt I'll be able to stay in there with a score of 4800 though.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 28, 2017, 12:59:00 PM
The real surprise was Valter though. I figured once they were done marketing Echoes they'd go and market the more popular Elibe characters instead of Magvel. If we're going to get some Sacred Stones love I'm putting my money on getting the royals holding sacred twins, so probably Colorless Innes with Nidhogg, Blue Tana with Vidofnir, Red Joshua with Audhulma, and Green L'Arachel with Ivaldi. If they're feeling like assholes they'll make L'Arachel a staff. Dunno who they'd give Glepnir and Garm to, I guess Knoll and Duessel, but I doubt they're a priority like the royals. I imagine a GHB with Lyon will also follow relatively soon after the Valter one.

In other news, I might actually make it to Tier 20 for the first time after this week. Took a bit of luck but I managed to get a perfect run with a high-score Arena team without dancers or mages sans Reinhardt, who is +1. Doubt I'll be able to stay in there with a score of 4800 though.

Unfortunately, you won't. I've been getting roughly 4700 and I still can't make it above Tier 18. There are just too many whales (at least I can occasionally get that sweet 4th Orb).

As for hypotheical Magvel units. I feel that the Trainees are going to be shoe-ins (and basically be like Echoes Village People/Donnel at having great overall stat totals, but non-existent skill sets; at least we'll get a Red Mage and a Lance and Axe users for better Villager color coverage and they'll probably end up as T_T reward fodder), Myrrh is a safe bet (a better Green Dragonstone than Fae would be helpful, or at least breaks up the monopoly, and gives us another opportunity for more Dragon Emblem), and Seth is all but guaranteed (one of the major themes of FE 8 is the Shoujo-esque adventures of Eirika and Seth, and hell they've already got Valter in, so its already pretty much a done deal). What I'm hopeful for are Marisa (hopefully she'll be facing forward this time), Gilliam (a new Armor might help the current Armor Emblem scene, at the very least it couldn't hurt it), Vanessa (flier waifu), Selena (for a second Magvel GHeB, though I could see Duessel or Lyon getting that honor instead) and Gheb (just for the lulz (don't do this Intsys, its not worth the lulz of having a Gheb GHeB)).

As much as I want to see Tethys for more Dancer options, she's the only one of the bunch without any sort of possible combat gimmick to use (Phinna, Lara and the FE4 dancers all have swords like Olivia, and the Herons can probably get shoehorned into whatever gimmick they end up using for the Tellus' Laguz much like Ninian getting made into a Dragon unit instead). And I feel that Lute's chances are too good as well (I never cared for her that much, and it's not even because of the personality, I just consider Eirika, Vanessa, Marisa, Selena and Amelia (it was much less creepy when the game first came out, and she's fallen off anyways) to be superior waifus), although if she does get in, do the right thing Intsys and make her a Red Horse unit. I'd much rather see L'Arachel even if she ends up as yet another generic staffbot (at least she'll be mounted like Elise, Priscilla and Clarine).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on July 28, 2017, 01:44:07 PM
Hate to burst bubbles here, but I went back to that "daily free summon" thing, and I believe I heard it's for event times only. I think it's safe to assume that.

In any case, some good quality of life changes are coming and I'm looking forward to August.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 28, 2017, 11:41:20 PM
(https://i.redditmedia.com/VGaiuCFkXeD4wLhvm7ba0cBB42q-lIoU2PtMCU69Scg.jpg?w=810&s=dd5ed88a0658f5dbb116237f0353cb58)

So...Voting Gauntlet. Who do you think will win it all this time around?

I'll be pulling for the Flying Corn even though I have two Summer Robins and a Summer Tiki. CYL has been too stronk and even bullshit Mario Kart tactics isn't enough to overturn it. And even without that, Corrin's recent Amiibo release will influence the Smash factor for sure.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 29, 2017, 01:05:13 AM
The only thing for sure is that one of the girls will win. I also think it's more likely that one of Ylissean units wins because a lot of people dumped their orbs on that banner, so I assume Robin will win. I'll be backing whatever unit I can manage to get.

Hate to burst bubbles here, but I went back to that "daily free summon" thing, and I believe I heard it's for event times only. I think it's safe to assume that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnI6HW9cv8Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnI6HW9cv8Y)

Relevant info starts around 16:05. The 3* and 4* rate swap and first free summon starts on August 7th. The narrator says "You can participate in every future summoning event one time without using any orbs". Always possible it's a translation error, but I think it's going to be a permanent feature from now on.

That said, since apparently the bonuses don't apply to the Summer Banners, I should go ahead and try to get a unit now. Not a big fan of Corrin but she's going to be a really useful unit to have around if I get her, so Nohr it is.

No blues to choose. Of course. Whatever.
3* Hana: I really wish they'd add a 4* with Life and Death 3.
3* Stahl: Hurray for...Obstruct?
4* Tiki: Wrong banner, wrong Tiki.
3* Cecilia: +ATK -SPD. My second with this set. For once it'd be nice to have a nice boon without an awful bane to go with it.
4* Setsuna: Guess bowbreaker might come in handy someday.

No blues again. 3 Colorless too. Think I'll skip on those this time.
4* Chrom: -HP +RES. Useless.
3* Gunter: More Hone Cavalry, whee.

2 Colorless again. At least there's 2 blue this time.
3* Gwendolyn: Can I get the good spear armor already?
3* Subaki: Already got one with +DEF -RES, which as far as I know is the best set for him.
3* Henry: Actually used the one I had for his Raven tome on my Sophia, so good to get another one of the worst units in the game.

3* Est: Bad in her home game, bad skills, bad stats, bad everything. Well I guess she's kinda cute at least, so there's that.
3* Gunter: At least give me a 4*.
4* Titania: +SPD -RES. Well, she's better than that earlier one I got, that's for sure.

Oh good, no colorless for once. Hurray.
3* Est: aaaaaa
4* Shanna: Free desperation is nice.
3* Lon'qu: Vantage!
4* Titania: +ATK -RES. Eh. Pretty sure +SPD is better on her.
5* Elise: Hurray, it's over. -HP +RES so not too bad.

Would've liked Corrin, but I want to save my Orbs for Hero Fest. So guess I'll be backing the loli this time around.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on July 29, 2017, 04:06:16 AM
Unless I miraculously get a summer Corrin right before the gauntlet, I'm siding with Robin. Because that's the only one I have.

...

Also, the my pity rate for the Leo banner is now sitting at 4,75%. I blame Lucina.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on July 29, 2017, 07:19:51 AM
200 Orbs later and I get Corrin... not sure if that was worth it, but oh well. I also accidentally got Elise when I had to pull a green because there were no blues, so there's that, I guess. Only got 20 Orbs left now. Time to start hoarding them again.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 30, 2017, 03:33:50 PM
Stumbled upon the solution to Infernal Lloyd. Turns out Etrurian Scum + Olivia wins again, although I finally broke down and fed her a 4 star Gunter (which of course involved turning a 3 star Gunter into a 4 star one; I can't wait for the rates to be swapped so that I don't have to spend valuable feathers doing that, and hopefully they'll stay swapped). Also broke down and finally fed Xander an Eliwood as well so that he can finally officially join the Mounted Emblem team (of course, this too cost me 2k feathers and a handful of shards).

Anyways, with that, I now have everything July related done and dusted (aside from tomorrow's daily quests). Now its time for me to grind out a few more Orbs and hopefully pull that Flying Corrin (also, it occurs to me that while people were commenting on Valter breaking the Wyverns = Green Axe Fliers, Corrin's doing it first as a Blue Tome Wyvern).


Preparations Edit: With all this free time before August, I finally decided to pull the trigger on promoting Ursula to 5 star. That should help me keep up with the powercreep. My next projects will probably involve Olivia or the Askr trio.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on July 30, 2017, 04:11:31 PM
I noticed I had a fuckton of units with Wings of Mercy, so the Glass Cannon Brigade is going to have a great time teleporting all over the map. Fury Nino will be one of the warp beacons.

Speaking of Nino, I need to find a Desperation somewhere, because that would be really awesome in combination with her 43 speed stat.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on July 31, 2017, 08:23:40 AM
Have lots of Cains? Wish I could trade you all these extra Shannas I have for them.

And yeah, Fury/Desperation is a really obvious build for her (and pretty much every other glass cannon). Works well since her HP is so bad Fury will knock her into Desperation pretty fast.

Since that new crazy Arena mode is basically saying we need 7 entire unique teams of heroes, I'm going to drop some of my feathers too. I 5*'d a Camus and I'm planning on 5*ing one of the Olivias I have (chose one with -HP +SPD). Also gave Olivia a Ruby Sword since that's all Stahl is good for. I like having 40k feathers left over in the off chance I draw some unit I really like at 4* or less, but when I get more, I guess the next logical unit for me to 5* is Xander, but maybe I shouldn't focus too much on meta units- that and 5* reds are the easiest to draw. I guess my biggest gap right now is an Axe since the only good one I have is Anna (haven't built on my Spring Chrom much). My top choice for that is probably Cherche because she'd also fill my need of a 5* flier, but I have yet to draw one that doesn't have a terrible bane despite her being available at 3*.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on July 31, 2017, 10:06:07 AM
Yeah, lots of 4* Cains and half a dozen 3* Pallas. I have one spare Shanna, which will be fed to Nino very, very soon.

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I guess the next logical unit for me to 5* is Xander, but maybe I shouldn't focus too much on meta units- that and 5* reds are the easiest to draw.

Xander comes with a build in distant counter, though. The chance you'll pull a 5* red with a sword like that is extremely small. Plus, he's really good in a Horse Emblem them. Since there's a decent number of cavalry units that relatively easy to obtain, I'm aiming for two complete Horse Emblem teams myself. Team number one is Xander, Elise, Cecillia and Reinhardt. And once I finally get that Leon, number two will be complete as well: Camus, Leon, Priscilla and whatever green units that's easiest to turn into good support.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on July 31, 2017, 10:15:52 AM
Have lots of Cains? Wish I could trade you all these extra Shannas I have for them.

And yeah, Fury/Desperation is a really obvious build for her (and pretty much every other glass cannon). Works well since her HP is so bad Fury will knock her into Desperation pretty fast.

Since that new crazy Arena mode is basically saying we need 7 entire unique teams of heroes, I'm going to drop some of my feathers too. I 5*'d a Camus and I'm planning on 5*ing one of the Olivias I have (chose one with -HP +SPD). Also gave Olivia a Ruby Sword since that's all Stahl is good for. I like having 40k feathers left over in the off chance I draw some unit I really like at 4* or less, but when I get more, I guess the next logical unit for me to 5* is Xander, but maybe I shouldn't focus too much on meta units- that and 5* reds are the easiest to draw. I guess my biggest gap right now is an Axe since the only good one I have is Anna (haven't built on my Spring Chrom much). My top choice for that is probably Cherche because she'd also fill my need of a 5* flier, but I have yet to draw one that doesn't have a terrible bane despite her being available at 3*.

To be fair, both Xander and Camus are really good units, even without Mounted Emblem backing them.

As for team comps, mine's okay-ish right now. My biggest gaps right now are not having any level 40 5 star Red Infantry (shocking, I know, right?), having poor Red Flier and Blue Armor coverage (though not for a lack of trying), not a lot of diversity with my Blue Mages, Daggers (though again, not for a lack of trying) or Archers (Klein can only take me so far), only having 4 Olivias for Dancing (and only two of them can actually Dance; I keep fearing the devs will implement Dragon Emblem and Dancer Emblem at some point), and not having a complete team of Dragons ready yet (I've got 4 different units, but their levels/readiness is all over the place). As for the hard numbers, I've got 32 5 star units, 19 of them being Level 40, plus another 17 4 star Level 40 units to boot, with another 15 units between Levels 35 and 38.


Also, apparently after the next BHeB will be Legion's ReGHeB (and once again its running right smack dab in the middle of the month's T_T). At least this time I have better options, plus I'm already on top of leveling up Legion (I formed a powerleveling team consisting of him, Berkut, Lloyd and Clarrise and they're all north of Level 35).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on July 31, 2017, 10:46:43 AM
Let's see, counting both 5*s and all usable 4*s (bolded), I have:

7x sword units: Alm, Alphonse, Athena, Masked Marth, Lucina, Xander and Tobin (some are obviously better than others...)

2x  axe: Anna, Legion

3x lance: Sharena, Robin, Camus

3x green mage: Cecilia, Camilla and Nino

3x red mage: Sanaki, Tharja, Lilina

4x blue mage: Linde, Reinhardt, Mae and Robin

4x armours: Effie, Zephiel

4x dragons: Nowi, Fae, Young Tiki and Corrin

3x dancers: two 4* Olivia's and one 3* Olivia

4x healers: Lucius, Sakura, Elise and Priscilla

1x archer: The Most Amazing Klein ever

And also: 3x Kagero (all 4* and L40 because they don't have any special banes or boons and I don't know what to do with them yet).

So my weak points right now are archers and dancers. I do have some 4* archers I might be able to turn into something usable (like a +atk -hp Setsuna, a +hp, -res Gordin and Clarisse), but those will take a lot of work. But dancers...

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 01, 2017, 08:17:45 AM
So we're listing our Level 40s by weapon type now? Alright....

Bolded for 5 stars (and parentheses for those between levels 39~35):

Swords: Cain, Zephiel, Eliwood, Alfonse, Fir, Hana, Draug, Palla (Masked Marth, Olivia, Laslow, Navarre, Lloyd).

Lances: Camus, Ephraim, Cordelia, Sharena, Gwendolyn x2, Est (Donnel, Berkut, Florina).

Axes: Raven, Summer Tiki, Camilla, Anna, Frederick, Gunter, Michalis, Beruka (Sheena, Legion, Arthur, Narcian).

Red Tome: Sanaki, Tharja.

Blue Tome: Spring Lucina, Ursula.

Green Tome: Boey, Cecilia, Nino, Female Robin.

Dragonstones: Fae, Female Corrin (Adult Tiki).

Archers: Klein (Setsuna, Clarisse).

Daggers: Kagero (Gaius).

Staffs: Bridal Lyn (Clarine).

As for the new month of VG, its here and the Corn has already all but seized total victory (unless those Blue Turtleshell multipliers actually do something beyond condensing voting time down to whenever the multipliers are up). Still, I expect much salt to be had.

Sadly, my pulls for Nohrian Scummer have failed me thus far. The best unit so far has been a 4 star Sheena, aka a Svalinn Shield for one of my other Armors (either Gwendy or Zephiel). I also still have more Stahls than I know what to do with (Swap for everybody I suppose, I'm certain Sheena would appreciate a Stahl Burger).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 01, 2017, 09:56:13 AM
Guess in the absence of an especially popular waifu, everyone goes for the meta unit.

I'm honestly feeling really tempted to drop my orbs fishing for a Summer Corrin, not because of the Voting Gauntlet, but because she's one of two flying mages and they're both event-restricted. I have no idea why they thought that was a good idea. They really need to add a 2-range flier that's available normally, possibly even at 4*. Or make one from a GHB.

Also here's all my 5*s. I'm taking the lazy route!

(http://i.imgur.com/Vdp3vTS.png?1)

I don't really use any 4*s other than Olivia and Nino. I used Legion for a bit but mostly because I wanted to grind HM on him- he's pretty usable even as 4* though.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 01, 2017, 12:04:55 PM
My pity rate for the Leon banner is sitting at 5%. The latest batch of not-Leons:
3* Olivia
3* Palla
4* Eliwood
4* Athena
3* Selena
4* Henry

I think I'm going to cry...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 01, 2017, 10:34:27 PM
Guess in the absence of an especially popular waifu, everyone goes for the meta unit.

One problem is that all these challenges tend to require either specific units or strats to solve, all of which takes time and resources to bring up to speed (if you even have them in the first place). Alternatively, you find the units who can brute force most of this crap, and focus your attention on them. I mean, who needs a 5 star +Atk Setsuna to deal with Dagger assholes when any Male Robin/Cecilia with Daggerbreaker can do the same job and more?

Also, they just keep coming out with these limited time seasonal units, because unfortunately, they've got to keep feeding the whales. And between that and the powercreep, there really aren't a whole lot of useful units outside of the meta right now.


As for flying Mages though, that's an unfortunate side effect of the series, much like the sea of swords, as Aversa's pretty much it for Pega Pony Mages in the main series (Emma or Shade could also bring the flying Tomes but getting them into FEH isn't a high priority due to their own spinoff origins; nevermind the fact that its unlikely that both of them will be Dark Pegasus).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 02, 2017, 12:45:58 AM
Alright, YOLO Swag 420 Blaze it I'm just gonna give in and try to get dragon selfcest waifu. Wish me luck.

4* Catria: +SPD -RES, which I think might actually be the best set on her, so I guess I'll favorite her for now.

3* Fir: I bet Rutger wouldn't have been as crappy as you if they added him to the game.

3* Gwendolyn: On that note, you probably suck because all the FE6 armors sucked.
4* Effie: Finally, muscle woman shows her face! +ATK -SPD too. My armor team just got slightly less awful.

3* Sully: Swordbreaker lady.
4* Effie: A merge for my new Effie, cool.

4* Shanna: More desperation fodder.
4* Est: Seal SPD might actually be kinda useful on some characters if she didn't have it as her 5* skill.

4* Reinhardt: Whee, more merges for Thunder Chad. Unfortunately once again he's -ATK so I don't get to replace my first one still.

4* Clair: New character. Heard she's not too good and this +HP -ATK set isn't doing her any favors. Hit and Run might be nice though.
3* Sully: More swordbreaker lady.
3* Corrin F: Well, I got the right character at least.

3* Shanna: Desperation is what I'm feeling around now actually.
3* Sully: Show up as 4* at least plz

3* Fir: At least I didn't lose my pity ra-

5* Summer Leo: Thanks game. I really needed one of the worst red mages in the game. Would've preferred the normal version. He's also continuing my tradition of having -SPD 5*s. Tomato Mage power activate!

4* Roderick: He's new and he's got a Firesweep Lance if I ever hate him enough.
4* Effie: Gotta say I'm appreciating the new mass immigration of Effies here.
4* Shanna: Think I figured out where all your Shannas went, Tomara.
4* Cordelia: Would be nice if I didn't already have you.

4* Gwendolyn: I don't need you anymore Gwen, I have bicep girl.

4* Effie: Four of them, apparently.
4* Corrin F: Okay, now just slip into a bikini and we're good to go.

4* Gaius: Went for the colorless since I seem to be on a pretty good 4* streak and another Klein would be nice. Got candyman instead though.

3* Shanna: oh boy
4* Odin: It's Moonbow! I mean, Odin.
3* Gwendolyn: I never brought this up before, but does anyone else think those bicycle shorts or whatever look ridiculous on her?

4* Jagen: Fury and Ward Cavalry, hurray.

3* Florina: Took a while for the worst flier to show up.
3* Est: And her partner in crime.

3* Sully: Would be nice to get an Abel to complement all these Sullies.
4* Reinhardt: Whee. Well, Neutral stats is a step above -ATK. Not quite there yet though.
3* Felicia: Accidentally pressed buy-in. Oh well.

4* Lucius: Best girl. New for me. Unfortunately he's -ATK so he won't be good even if I pull a Genny out of a hat.

3* Gordin: I just know the next colorless I pull is going to be a 5* healer or something.

3* Odin: Suppose this guy is a fitting way to cap this off.

Well, wasted all my Orbs and didn't get what I wanted. Par for the course I guess. I can't be too mad though, I got some pretty good 4*s in there.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 02, 2017, 03:08:04 AM
Those Gwendolyns have that one skill all the other armours love, so there's that.

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5* Summer Leo: Thanks game. I really needed one of the worst red mages in the game. Would've preferred the normal version. He's also continuing my tradition of having -SPD 5*s. Tomato Mage power activate!

But at leats your rate wasn't sitting at 5%, right? And hey, having a tomatome/tome-mato is kinda neat.

I just calculated that I'll be able to spend, at the very most, 25 more orbs on the Leon banner (because I don't count on completing those final two chain challenges I'm sitting on). But that's only if I'm able to finish the armour and flyer quest very soon. Fortunately I have 115+ stamina potions. I think I'll be able to miss a few.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 02, 2017, 03:28:54 AM
I forgot to mention that in addition to continuing my tradition of -SPD 5*s, I'm also continuing my tradition of getting every single character Tomara wants. I bet if I tried the Quick Riposte banner again I'll get a Leo in the first 2 draws or something.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 03, 2017, 07:12:59 AM
Then you should try it. Magical cavalry is amazing.

Anyway, I've got all the orbs I could possibly get before time runs out, so let's hope for a Leo!

Attempt 1: one red.

4* Cain - Ergh... atleast he's 4*, but...


Attempt 2: 1 red and whole bunch of blues, so I'm going to out of here as fast as I can.

3* Raigh - The disappointment tastes exactly like that shitty cheap ice cream I just ate.

17 orbs left, but two reds this time!

3* Tiki - ...

3* Palla - Why couldn't you have been 4*?


8 orbs left, which means one more shot at getting Leo. It's now or never.

One red.

The odds are sitting at 5,25%, and that's just for Leo. My odds of getting a 5* units are great. Who knows, it might be a Ryoma. That'd be fine too!

It will happen.

I just know it!

4* Palla - ... That is not what I wanted.

I wish they'd implement some sort of feature that let's you buy a 1* version of whatever character you want for like 500 great badges of the corresponding colour.

In other disappointing news: Team Robin sucks. I only have two friends who choice her and fortunately they have good units (a fully decked out Camus and your token L40 Hector), but the randoms have been shit. Yeah, your L40+3 Est sure will work great against that Tiki teaming up with Yulia and Ryoma! Oh and look, your Roy against two Reinhardts backed up by a Ninian, there's absolutely no way I could lose this one...

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 03, 2017, 09:16:34 AM
Attempt 2: 1 red and whole bunch of blues, so I'm going to out of here as fast as I can.


In other disappointing news: Team Robin sucks. I only have two friends who choice her and fortunately they have good units (a fully decked out Camus and your token L40 Hector), but the randoms have been shit. Yeah, your L40+3 Est sure will work great against that Tiki teaming up with Yulia and Ryoma! Oh and look, your Roy against two Reinhardts backed up by a Ninian, there's absolutely no way I could lose this one...

You're the one who took all my Blue Orbs....

I seriously chose to reroll my draw because I pulled 1 Red Orb and 4 Colorless (and the Red was a 3 star Fir), and then I pulled 2 Red Orbs, 1 Green and 2 more Colorless, and aside from a new Bowbreaker 2 fodder, it was all jack shit. I really hope they don't pull another one of these VGs with units who just became available.


And if you think your support has been bad this VG, I actually had to burn a Light's Blessing on a Multiplier Match because my team of Klein, Xander and Roy were matched up against Male Robin, Abel and Sharena, and I was the one who brought the Klein.


As for comments on your pulls, I should note that Cain is an Uncommon Rarity unit (i.e. he's generally pullable at 4 and 5 stars), and seriously, don't underestimate the power of Wings of Mercy. Sorry about the rest of your pulls though.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 03, 2017, 10:30:41 AM
Whenever Voting Gauntlets come it's time to purge your friends list of scrubs who put in useless units as their leader.

But to me what's probably more annoying is when people put the character they're voting for as their leader, because they clearly don't know how the hell the gauntlet works. At least someone putting in a subpar unit might just be a new player or really unlucky or something.

So since Elise was curbstomped by Corrin, I decided I'll try to get a high overall rank since I got a decent amount of bonuses in the first round, so I went with Leo since I happened to pull the guy.

Been training Summer Leo alongside an Effie. I gotta figure out how to build him- mine's -SPD +RES which would let him tank magic well, except for him getting doubled by everything and most threatening mages are blue (Linde, Delthea, and the Thracia double tap duo). I'll probably be lazy and end up putting Fury on him like half the 5*s I have. I just gotta draw an army of Hinatas.

Though I gotta say that even though Summer Leo's not a great unit, he has probably the funniest lines I've seen in the game so far.

(http://i.imgur.com/3gj4SXG.png?1)

There's also this one (https://feheroes.gamepedia.com/media/feheroes.gamepedia.com/0/0b/Leo_(Nohrian_Summer)_Character_Page5_(EN).wav) from his status screen.

I scrounged together some orbs too, by spending a couple stamina potions and doing a bunch of the chain challenges I hadn't finished and a lot of the August Quests. I'm actually already done with like 70% of them (including the always-annoying 15 armor wins), so I have no idea what I'll do the rest of the month when I finish them. Probably repeatedly fail those Chain Challenges I still haven't beat (9+10 and 11+12)- really hate how inflated the HP bars on the enemies in there are.

3 Blue orbs so decent start.

3* Subaki: I really hope they add a unit that gets Quick Riposte at 4* at some point.
3* Sully: I guess all my Virions will be happy about all these Sullies.
3* Est: How about sending me your boyfriend with awful taste in women instead?

1 Blue. Ack.

3* Robin: The scales are tipped, but not in a good way.

1 Blue again, hurray.

3* Sully: Guess the 3*s are back to haunt me.

3 Blues, whee.

4* Lukas: He's new, so hurray. -DEF though, because of course he is.
3* Oboro: Free feathers!
4* Mathilda: Another new character so that's nice I guess. Too bad Cancel Affinity 3 is a 5* skill. No idea if +SPD -DEF is good for her.

No blues, hurray.

4* Beruka: Pity rate saved. Don't think I've ever gotten her at 4*, oddly enough.

3* Shanna: All these desperations will really come in handy once I stop pulling -SPD Heroes.
4* Mathilda: Guess if I really want to make a "fuck you" archer I have fodder for that now.

Pity rate's at 4.5%, but the banner's still up for 27 days. I got shitall orbs left over for Hero Fest though.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 03, 2017, 11:21:10 AM
After that screenshot I just had to look up his quotes and, yep, he's officially best character now.

"I'm Leo, Prince of Nohr. And you pulled me off a tropical island. Do you expect me to fight in this outfit?"

"Thanks for the extra power. But I would rather have extra clothes."

Oh Leo, but I tried to get a you with some clothes on, and you just wouldn't show up. If I happen to pull you with just your swimming trunks on, you have nobody to blame but yourself.

Edit: Speaking of quotes, Bikini Robin is an idiot.

"I've been keeping my eyes peeled... Seems like I'm one of the few who's dressed in so little. I feel... exposed."

Robin, look, compared to what you're currently sharing the home screen with, you're overdressed. I mean, there's your teammate Olivia. She only wears some strips of, mostly sheer!, fabric. And look, Nowi decided to pop up as well. She won't be happy until every last member of this army has been arrested for accidently seeing her exposing herself. You know how some people just kind of disappear? Yeah, they did not go home. Also, have you seen Odin? Nobody knows what that's supposed to be and why he thought it was a good idea to put it on, but here we are. All feeling very uncomfortable, because shit, once you see it, you can't unsee it. And the less we say about Camilla, either of them, the better.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on August 03, 2017, 08:20:52 PM
I'm running out of whale money and I've gotten more non-focus 5*s than focus 5*s. I'm tried to raise my pity rate twice yesterday, and I ended up with a 5* Priscilla and Takumi. While it's awesome I got Takumi, I kinda want Summer Corrin/Elise now...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 04, 2017, 09:35:54 AM
You're not the only one. If I recall correctly, Lucius, Alm, Nino, Springmilla and Bikini Robin are my only 5* that were actually in focus. I spend close to 100 (free) orbs trying to get a regular Leo, but nope... Which may actually be for the best, because that focus did give me this random Lucina with perfect IVs people would kill (their credit rating) for.

Edit: I may be playing for free, but my gauntlet rank does make me look like a whale...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4345/36368654165_11d4153600_o.png)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 04, 2017, 10:27:17 AM
You're not the only one. If I recall correctly, Lucius, Alm, Nino, Springmilla and Bikini Robin are my only 5* that were actually in focus. I spend close to 100 (free) orbs trying to get a regular Leo, but nope... Which may actually be for the best, because that focus did give me this random Lucina with perfect IVs people would kill (their credit rating) for.

Edit: I may be playing for free, but my gauntlet rank does make me look like a whale...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4345/36368654165_11d4153600_o.png)

Hachi Machi! That's a high rank.

Meanwhile back at Camp Corrin, I fucking blew it by not letting the hourly update roll over (because you know, it takes like 5 minutes to actually roll over from the top of the hour; and no, you don't get the credit for being in battle when it rolls over), and now I've doomed myself by missing a rare and vital multiplier. That's about 400 Feathers I'm no longer seeing.

Bring The Salt!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 04, 2017, 12:14:19 PM
So, uh, my rank...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4403/36202163642_f7b79b8cba_o.png)

I wonder how long that will last.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on August 04, 2017, 09:28:55 PM
I feel like sharing my sad story. I just learned today that Summer Corrin was a blue flying mage (yeah I have not been playing or paying attention), so I figured I'd give it a shot and snipe for her. And so I spent all my stockpiled orbs and I got a 5*...Peri. I feel like the universe decided to punish me with that draw for some unspoken of crime. I didn't even get another 5* in the rest of her circle despite having a 4.5%+ pity rate. >.>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 05, 2017, 12:01:28 AM
RIP free orbs (for a few days). We'll be getting 5 free orbs because of some twitter thing in a few days though apparently.

So Team Leo just shit the bed by letting Gaius have a multiplier right before the end, so Gaius will get to have his ass handed to him by team waifu. Guess I'll hop in with Corrin to get the victory points the last round.

Also I pulled another blue orb and got another Sully. At least she was 4* this time.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on August 05, 2017, 12:03:47 AM
I feel like sharing my sad story. I just learned today that Summer Corrin was a blue flying mage (yeah I have not been playing or paying attention), so I figured I'd give it a shot and snipe for her. And so I spent all my stockpiled orbs and I got a 5*...Peri. I feel like the universe decided to punish me with that draw for some unspoken of crime. I didn't even get another 5* in the rest of her circle despite having a 4.5%+ pity rate. >.>
Story of my life :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 05, 2017, 12:42:05 AM
I mean, that's part of why I won't bother ever spending money on this game. I'm often tempted but one glance at the orb purchase screen is enough to dissuade me. Orbs are way too overpriced IMO, especially considering how easy the RNG can screw you. It's like US$10 for one summoning session, so on average you'll probably spend like $50 before you draw a single 5*. I'm not paying what would basically be the price of a full game so I can get one extra character in a smartphone game.

Nice of IS to give out free orbs like candy though.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 05, 2017, 01:05:16 AM
I feel like sharing my sad story. I just learned today that Summer Corrin was a blue flying mage (yeah I have not been playing or paying attention), so I figured I'd give it a shot and snipe for her. And so I spent all my stockpiled orbs and I got a 5*...Peri. I feel like the universe decided to punish me with that draw for some unspoken of crime. I didn't even get another 5* in the rest of her circle despite having a 4.5%+ pity rate. >.>
Story of my life :P

Hell, I'm still paying for my ridiculous luck way back at the start of July's Summer Banner with the only noteworthy pulls since then being a second Summer Robin, a Svalinn Shield for Gwendolyn and a Bowbreaker 2 for whomever wants to go anti-Archer.


RIP free orbs (for a few days). We'll be getting 5 free orbs because of some twitter thing in a few days though apparently.

So Team Leo just shit the bed by letting Gaius have a multiplier right before the end, so Gaius will get to have his ass handed to him by team waifu. Guess I'll hop in with Corrin to get the victory points the last round.

Also I pulled another blue orb and got another Sully. At least she was 4* this time.

While on the one hand, it was interesting to see somebody actually win on the Bullshit Mario Kart Strats, on the other, Gaius is about to get horribly clowned, especially since Team Leo's bringing the Salt.

On the upside to all of this, I'll have only one set of multipliers to potentially fuck up again, so I should only need to drop by a couple of times to clear missions and to do some good old fashion Flag burning (especially since all you get out of these battles are HM, Flags, Feathers and a cleaner Friend List).


Edit for all the Leo's who didn't make it:
(https://serenesforest.net/forums/uploads/monthly_2017_08/MYHEARTWILLGOON.jpg.265f627d38e904bce363885876f3b943.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 05, 2017, 03:09:06 AM
Holy shit, my #4 made it to the very end o_o

Now I'm siding with Gaius to protect my cumulative score. I'm counting on Team Waifu to give him a sound trashing leading to lots of multipliers.

I feel like sharing my sad story. I just learned today that Summer Corrin was a blue flying mage (yeah I have not been playing or paying attention), so I figured I'd give it a shot and snipe for her. And so I spent all my stockpiled orbs and I got a 5*...Peri. I feel like the universe decided to punish me with that draw for some unspoken of crime. I didn't even get another 5* in the rest of her circle despite having a 4.5%+ pity rate. >.>

So, which is sadder, that or getting a perfect Lucina then spending tons of orbs to get the pity rate to 5,25% for the character you actually wanted and nothing? 5,25% really hurts, but the emotional damage caused by 5* Peris is of the scale.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 05, 2017, 04:30:13 AM
If it makes you guys feel any better I got nothing from the Hero Fest last time around, and I'm pretty sure I dropped at least 60 orbs on that. Don't think I've actually drawn a single character I've been aiming for yet- then again, the only character I really went out of my way to try to get is Ninian. And of course my star player is from a game I haven't even played yet.

Tried a pull as soon as the new round started to see if I'd get lucky and have the character bonus.

3* Donnel: Well, I'm going to want to give Effie a Brave Lance eventually, so I guess he'll come into use.
4* Reinhardt: +DEF. Reinhardt best tank. Anyway I +2'd my Reinhardt the other day so I could get the +1 ATK, but my other 4* Reinhardts are going to have to wait around a bit to be merged because I'd probably benefit from having a more balanced team instead of giving Reinhardt another point of HP or whatever.

With the first hour over, Corrin has nearly 10x the points Gaius does. I think it's just going to be bonus time the whole way for Gaius so save those flags for later, I say.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 05, 2017, 05:54:16 AM
If it makes you guys feel any better I got nothing from the Hero Fest last time around, and I'm pretty sure I dropped at least 60 orbs on that. Don't think I've actually drawn a single character I've been aiming for yet- then again, the only character I really went out of my way to try to get is Ninian. And of course my star player is from a game I haven't even played yet.

Tried a pull as soon as the new round started to see if I'd get lucky and have the character bonus.

3* Donnel: Well, I'm going to want to give Effie a Brave Lance eventually, so I guess he'll come into use.
4* Reinhardt: +DEF. Reinhardt best tank. Anyway I +2'd my Reinhardt the other day so I could get the +1 ATK, but my other 4* Reinhardts are going to have to wait around a bit to be merged because I'd probably benefit from having a more balanced team instead of giving Reinhardt another point of HP or whatever.

With the first hour over, Corrin has nearly 10x the points Gaius does. I think it's just going to be bonus time the whole way for Gaius so save those flags for later, I say.

This isn't so much of a Gauntlet as it is a Savage Beating. At this rate, even a third straight hour with the bonus multiplier won't even finish closing the gap, nevermind ever hoping to pass Corrin. Apparently we're seeing the second coming of Lucina, bonus multiplier be dammed.

(Edit: Looks like I was wrong. Granted Team Corrin still didn't get knocked into multiplier range, but Gaius is ahead for right now.)

Meanwhile, I've finally cleared the Armor Emblem quest for August. It helps a lot that I finally have full triangle coverage, 2 5 star units on the team, and a Gwendolyn who can actually damage Reds and couldn't tank harder if she tried (maybe if I gave her Sacred Cowl to replace her Escutcheon, because right now she's a +Def Boon with +14 Def/Res coming in from Buffs/Auras on top of Svalinn Shield for all those anti-Armor weapons, and a Sapphire Lance to help her offense/defense).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Ranadiel on August 05, 2017, 06:36:38 AM
So, which is sadder, that or getting a perfect Lucina then spending tons of orbs to get the pity rate to 5,25% for the character you actually wanted and nothing? 5,25% really hurts, but the emotional damage caused by 5* Peris is of the scale.
Thing is, I don't think I was THAT far off from a 5.25% pity rate. So I'm going to go with the Peri because, WHY? :p
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 05, 2017, 10:20:05 AM

This isn't so much of a Gauntlet as it is a Savage Beating.

And the bonus rounds are delicious. Like candy.

Sure, Team Gaius is going to lose this battle, but we will win the cumulative ranking war.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 05, 2017, 11:23:54 AM

This isn't so much of a Gauntlet as it is a Savage Beating.

And the bonus rounds are delicious. Like candy.

Sure, Team Gaius is going to lose this battle, but we will win the cumulative ranking war.

True. But the Army Victory prize is worth more than the added notch on the Cumulative totem pole that the biggest Gaius contributers can obtain over Corrin supporters. And not only that, but for the next 36 hours you'll be glued to your phones, lest your own ranking be destroyed, meanwhile, I can rest easily as a babe, safe in the knowledge that Team Corrin will never see a multiplier. Mwhahaha!

(Although I wasn't nearly as efficient with my Flags as I could've been (http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-smith.gif).)


1.6.0 Edit: The new update is in and we now finally have a catalog for all the characters in the game. Also kind of a "fuck you" to f2pers as it does indeed track the seasonal variants (also also, you kinda need to fill it in since it'll only retroactively catalog the units you've encountered thus far). They've also expanded the Team Roster to 10 Teams now and most importantly, there's now a feature that lets you reshuffle Training Tower encounters (should make getting the Armor Emblem mission done easier). And of course, we've got our second Squad Assault, our second BHeB (of which I've already cleared Hard and Lunatic; still working Infernal though), and a slot for Arena Assault (though its still not functional yet). We're also getting another set of Daily Log-in Orbs (though with the added caveat that you can only get 20 of them over the next two weeks instead of 28), as well as a new Banner for the BHeB that uses the brand new rules (and my freebie pull was a 3 star Shanna (http://fi.somethingawful.com/safs/smilies/5/1/rolldice.001.gif)).

Btw: Something very interesting came up and now I almost regret making that freebie pull in the way that I did. Namely that the freebie counts towards your consecutive pull Orb discount (so I could've spent 15 Orbs instead of 20 for five chances).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 07, 2017, 07:38:45 AM
I ended up getting a really bad rank in Corrin's team and it tanked my overall rank pretty hard (ended up somewhere in the 9000s). I might've gotten more feathers overall if I went to Gaius instead, but its probably only a difference of a few hundred so no big deal.

Lots of nice changes this update- the Training Tower refresh is especially nice. I won't get use out of it this month, but it's nice that I won't have to constantly recheck the Training Tower for a suitable Tenth Stratum to do the Armor Objective in. Will make the flier objective easier for me too, since my flier team isn't that great either.

I cleared the new BHB without much issue with typical Horse Emblem shenanigans (with a Dancer). Had to put Lancebreaker on Reinhardt for it to work, but I already had level 1 on him anyway. For a while I was SI'ing all kinds of random skills onto him so he wouldn't hit 9999 SP, but I've since given up on that since there's not much point. Plus I ran out of useless skills to SI onto him, all the characters I keep around I might actually need. I also failed the new Squad Assault and the 9/10+11/12 Chain Challenges a few more times. I probably will need better units before I go do those.

I'm honestly not sure if I want to spend the 15 orbs to do the complete pull after the free one. Hero Fest is up in a few days and I figure whatever few orbs I have by then I should dump them in, and then spend the rest of the month trying to cash in on my pity rate in Nohrian Scummer.

As far as seasonal units go, I'm sure they'll come back in the future. I might be remembering wrong but I think Japan even had some kind of weird law regarding that. People love to play Chinese whispers as to what the actual laws in Japan involving gacha games are, though.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 07, 2017, 10:32:42 AM
I used Linde and Nino's and Olivia's usual dance & draw back combo.

I also just found out the 4* Mae I pulled is +spd. That brings her natural speed to 34 at L40 at 5*, meaning it can easily be turned into something that will benefit from Desperation. She's 5* now. Thanks, Gaius!

Now, time for some pulls:

Free pull on a shitty banner:
3* Cherche - Whatever.

And some Nohrian Scummer just because I can't wait:
4* Catria - +spd and a non-shitty bane. That's nice, I guess. Welcome to Flyer Emblem.
3* Frederick - Yuck.
4* Roy - The skill fodder I was waiting for!

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 07, 2017, 05:23:16 PM
I ended up getting a really bad rank in Corrin's team and it tanked my overall rank pretty hard (ended up somewhere in the 9000s). I might've gotten more feathers overall if I went to Gaius instead, but its probably only a difference of a few hundred so no big deal.

Lots of nice changes this update- the Training Tower refresh is especially nice. I won't get use out of it this month, but it's nice that I won't have to constantly recheck the Training Tower for a suitable Tenth Stratum to do the Armor Objective in. Will make the flier objective easier for me too, since my flier team isn't that great either.

I cleared the new BHB without much issue with typical Horse Emblem shenanigans (with a Dancer). Had to put Lancebreaker on Reinhardt for it to work, but I already had level 1 on him anyway. For a while I was SI'ing all kinds of random skills onto him so he wouldn't hit 9999 SP, but I've since given up on that since there's not much point. Plus I ran out of useless skills to SI onto him, all the characters I keep around I might actually need. I also failed the new Squad Assault and the 9/10+11/12 Chain Challenges a few more times. I probably will need better units before I go do those.

I'm honestly not sure if I want to spend the 15 orbs to do the complete pull after the free one. Hero Fest is up in a few days and I figure whatever few orbs I have by then I should dump them in, and then spend the rest of the month trying to cash in on my pity rate in Nohrian Scummer.

As far as seasonal units go, I'm sure they'll come back in the future. I might be remembering wrong but I think Japan even had some kind of weird law regarding that. People love to play Chinese whispers as to what the actual laws in Japan involving gacha games are, though.

That whole match is a good example of why Turtleshellers never prosper and make the game actively worse for everybody involved (and why I haven't played a Mario Kart game since DS). No multipliers blew almost as badly as some of the yo-yoing going on from the last VG. That said, I still managed to do fairly well in terms of placing for the 3rd round, probably because I was fairly conservative with my Flags from the previous two rounds and the fact that a bunch of Team Gaius members probably mismanaged their loads due to getting all the fucking multipliers for that round and the one before it. My Cumulative though wasn't hot due to fucking up that one multiplier from round 2 as well as simply not even having Corrin to get the bonus on.

My thoughts on pulling for the foreseeable future is basically to hold onto the Orbs until the T_T Banner shows up so that I can try for one of the 1.4x Bonus Characters (I'd really like a Sonya, fucked up figure or no, but I'd happily take a Delthea or a Gray), and then once I manage that (or bomb it like Nohrian Scummer), then I'll go back to trying for my Flying Tome coverage. I'll also probably go for the 15 Orb pull for the Heroes Banner, but no more than that one shot.

As for how Gachas handle Event Characters reruns, I've seen some that do, some that don't, and some that don't even last long enough to try. So it really is up to the game (granted this being based upon the FE series, with its over 700 preexisting characters, isn't exactly hurting for variance fodder; its basically a matter of equalizing the unit type/color distribution, which is why there's been 6 Blue Event Characters and 5 Green compared to the 3 Red Characters).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on August 07, 2017, 05:50:26 PM
So how do you exploit the free roll? Summon 4, exit, and then go back in to finish it to spend less orbs?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 07, 2017, 10:50:15 PM
So how do you exploit the free roll? Summon 4, exit, and then go back in to finish it to spend less orbs?

Summon 5 units for the price of 3 (instead of 5 for the price of 4 like it normally is), or just summon the freebie and not bother with the rest of the Banner.

Basically the very first pull is free, and on a full five round summoning where your Orb cost declines going from 5 > 4 > 4 > 4 > 3, your freebie causes that one round to go Freebie > 4 > 4 > 4 > 3. If you stop at the freebie or at one of the lower numbers such as Freebie > 4 > 4, your next round of draws will go 5 > 4 > 4 > 4 > 3 like normal.

All it basically does is help kickstart your pity multiplier, or if you're stupidly lucky, let you draw that 5 star focus for nothing (because seriously, if you got lucky enough to pull that, you're better off stopping there and coming back for the normal style if you want another focus).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on August 08, 2017, 03:21:57 AM
Got it, so basically you should do a full pull the first time.

Wow, you would think you would at least get a full round for free...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on August 08, 2017, 03:53:39 AM
That'd be a free 20 Orbs though which would be a heck of a lot. I'm feeling pretty good at one free draw, since we had zero before that!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 08, 2017, 06:42:10 AM
A free round would've been great, but the idea is to encourage you to spend orbs, so making you want to via the reduced cost the rest of the round makes sense.

Anyway I spent my free draw since I probably won't be pulling from this banner normally. Wouldn't have minded Lilina but I got 3* Raigh instead.

I also got a clear of Arena Assault. Didn't need items but it did take quite a few tries. I have 4840 points and I'm at rank ~200 or so, but I'm sure I'll drop off significantly as whales wake up and everyone realizes how to tackle the content properly. Got some use out of some 4*s I had leveled, mostly greens like Camilla and Arthur. Triangle Adept is still great to have around because nobody really runs Cancel Affinity in the arena.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 08, 2017, 07:47:05 AM
A free round would've been great, but the idea is to encourage you to spend orbs, so making you want to via the reduced cost the rest of the round makes sense.

Anyway I spent my free draw since I probably won't be pulling from this banner normally. Wouldn't have minded Lilina but I got 3* Raigh instead.

I also got a clear of Arena Assault. Didn't need items but it did take quite a few tries. I have 4840 points and I'm at rank ~200 or so, but I'm sure I'll drop off significantly as whales wake up and everyone realizes how to tackle the content properly. Got some use out of some 4*s I had leveled, mostly greens like Camilla and Arthur. Triangle Adept is still great to have around because nobody really runs Cancel Affinity in the arena.

It took me two tries to get through the Arena Assault myself (although I flubbed my first run on round 2 so no Exp, SP or HM for me).

Also eventually managed the C&L BHeB on Inferno (it only took sticking Reposition onto Eliwood; although I kinda also wasted a Shanna and an Arthur on a bad SIs).

Also also, noticed that they've already got the T_T Banner up so I tried my luck. I ended pulling a 4 star Arthur, 3 star Shanna (welp, got my wasted SI fodder back), 3 star Jagen (Spur Res and Fury are still okay), 3 star Odin (dammit game, aren't you supposed to be giving out more 4 stars now?) and a 4 star Klein (hey, DB3 fodder, yay). All in all, not terrible, but not what I need right now (at least I have almost enough Orbs to pull again, I just need to clear some space).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 08, 2017, 08:40:36 AM
Got a 4* Mae from the TiTty banner. She has +SPD -ATK so I wonder if I should upgrade and merge my crapped -SPD +DEF 5* Mae into her. The -ATK sucks but Mae kind of has an overkill of ATK and the +6 SPD would make up for both the ATK and DEF loss I'd take from it. Kinda short on feathers though- Olivia, Xander, and Nino are all still 4* and they're pretty good candidates for getting promoted, especially Xander since he's unremarkable without his Distant Counter weapon. Also like I mentioned before (and the Arena Assault reminded me) the real shortage I have is of Green units, and Nino already functions really well at 4*.

EDIT: Beat the second Squad Assault. Took me a bunch of tries to figure out how to survive the final map since I already used up most of my good units by then, but the nice thing about doing it a bunch of times in a row is that since the maps never change and it saves your teams, you'll keep winning the maps you've already won without much issue.

Also I don't think I have any of you aside from Ranadiel on my friends list. If any of you want Thunderhorse man the next time Voting Gauntlet comes along, go ahead and add me: 5002653070
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 09, 2017, 02:41:59 AM
So something incredibly stupid has come to light regarding the Arena Assault mode.

Basically you only get the items for clearing battles with enemies over level 35, so generally speaking if you stick to teams on Advanced difficulty, you'll find lots of teams with 40+ enemies and one 20~30 Dancer just to dick you over. However, if you go into the mode with a single Level 40 5 star unit on your first team and stick to Beginner...

(https://serenesforest.net/forums/uploads/monthly_2017_08/IMG_4635.thumb.PNG.8069e71bf2cc5134241032c273dc0dee.PNG)

You're guaranteed a single level 40 enemy every time you choose Beginner, no matter how many units you field (as Arena Assault bases your matches around the first team you field). Fight 7 of these and get your 3 items per run.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 10, 2017, 03:26:01 AM
All my free pulls have been terrible thusfar, but the Herofest banner is here and I have enough orbs for a full pull!

4* Tiki - Remember how I said I didn't get any Adult Tiki's in the first four months? I have like four now, and that's excluding the ones I fed to the other dragons... Maybe I'll just raise the best one I have to L40.

3* Laslow - Wrong red mercenary.

4* Roy - Erh... atleast he's good skill fodder...

3* Shanna - Actually, I'm okay with this. One of my mages is desperate for Desperation.

One orb left. It's blue. It must be Ninian!

4* Corrin - Corrin, this is why I hate you. Always ruining everything for everyone. You are not the blue dragon I wanted. You traitor.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 10, 2017, 06:48:11 AM
Eh, I got my clear of Arena Assault without items, so the free items via solo unit is nice, but it's not like it makes that huge of a difference.

Also I'm at rank ~1200 now. There's a massive pileup at rank 1 with all the whales, so I'm guessing the 1000-5000 rank is the best I'll be able to do for a long while. Hope the new currency isn't used for anything too game-breaking- a popular theory is some kind of 1* Hero shop using them, but I doubt they'd be so generous. The gacha is what keeps people paying.

I have ~50 Orbs at the moment, so with the Tempest Trials and daily orbs hopefully I'll be able to pull 4 times or so while Hero Fest is up.

4* Mathilda: Sucks that Cancel Affinity 3 is her 5* skill, makes her a lot less useful.
3* Niles: OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NO
3* Azama: Guess I can give Pain to a random healer or something.
4* Tiki: I have lots of Lightning Breaths on standby for whenever I get Ninian.
4* Frederick: Luna fodder.

4* Effie: All these Effies would be a lot nicer if I had like 100,000 feathers to spare.
4* Roderick: Firesweep lance is nice, but I'd like an Abel now.
4* Raven: New character. He's -HP +SPD which is a pretty nice set on him, apparently he can run a quad build decently well- and he already has Brave Axe on him so it's cheap(er) to build. Maybe I should use him to fill out that Green unit I'm hurting for.
4* Sophia: Maybe I should just make a 4*+10 of her. It'd bother me forever that I wouldn't get the 5* level 40 conversation though.
3* Gaius: get diabetes and die
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 10, 2017, 07:17:17 AM
Quote
Hope the new currency isn't used for anything too game-breaking- a popular theory is some kind of 1* Hero shop using them, but I doubt they'd be so generous. The gacha is what keeps people paying.

It could work, as long as there are some limitations:
- Only 1*s
- Only one copy available of each unit
- All units are neutral (meaning the people who want superior boons will still have to gamble)
- Everything is so expensive, saving up for a new character takes a month or for the rank 5000-10000 players
(-Limited edition characters are more expensive)

That'd allow for players to complete their collection without offering a free alternative to the whale lifestyle, which now revolves around having L40+10 fully decked out 5* units.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 10, 2017, 08:24:24 AM
Quote
Hope the new currency isn't used for anything too game-breaking- a popular theory is some kind of 1* Hero shop using them, but I doubt they'd be so generous. The gacha is what keeps people paying.

It could work, as long as there are some limitations:
- Only 1*s
- Only one copy available of each unit
- All units are neutral (meaning the people who want superior boons will still have to gamble)
- Everything is so expensive, saving up for a new character takes a month or for the rank 5000-10000 players
(-Limited edition characters are more expensive)

That'd allow for players to complete their collection without offering a free alternative to the whale lifestyle, which now revolves around having L40+10 fully decked out 5* units.

I feel like they're going to be used to buy Light's Blessings, Dueling Swords, Stamina Drinks, or Crystals/Shards. But then, I'm a pessimist (at least I'm being a glass half full guy this time as these coins could be an additional currency needed alongside Feathers and Seals to promote characters to 6 stars).

Actually, a fairer compromise would be to allow players to buy a skill to use on a character (instead of having to pull any one of Cordelia, Roy, Cecilia, or Sanaki for Triangle Adept 1, you could buy it for 500 Coins; though you'll still need the aforementioned characters for TA 2 or 3).


Anyways, my second pull for the T_T banner was another bust. At least I got more 4 stars than 3 stars this time (including a 4 star Henry for G. Tomebreaker 3 shenanigans), but its gonna be another 2 days at least before my next pull and T_T fast approaches.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on August 10, 2017, 09:23:45 PM
First pull of Hero Fest was Lucina. I mean, not who I was looking for, but I can't really complain about that.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 11, 2017, 04:02:20 AM
First pull of Hero Fest was Lucina. I mean, not who I was looking for, but I can't really complain about that.

My third pull of T_T yielded a 3 star Sully, a 4 star Gaius, Titania (+Spd/-Atk, yuck) and Boey (+Res/-HP, well someone else will appreciate your Earth Boost 3 skill), and a 5 star Delthea (+HP/-Spd, bad traits but still, paydirt!).

And just in time as the next dreaded T_T has begun.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 11, 2017, 07:11:03 AM
I decided I'm not even going to try to pull a 1.4x bonus unit. Even if I only use a 1.2x one, with the daily bonus in place, it shouldn't take longer to get all the rewards than it did last time. I just need to keep aiming for 7200 points a day and it'll be just fine.

My current team - Alm, Mae, Legion and Bikini Robin - is a big success, giving me both good survival and speed bonuses. But maybe I'll try replacing Legion with Nino for a bit. She needs Alm healing services even less, which is good, because Alm is also the one dealing with all sorts of physical units together with Robin.

Focus wise, I'm going to try to get at much out of Hero Fest as I can. Knowing my luck, I'll get a random Delthea or something from that one. After that, I'll switch back to trying to to obtain a summer Corrin.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 11, 2017, 08:22:19 AM
Delthea as a random would be a pretty lucky draw. She's like the best blue tome in the game. Her stats are ridiculously min-maxed and she can end up with like 5 DEF at 5* level 40 if you give her Life and Death.

Tempest is back, but at least it has bonuses for the first two runs you do every day, so it's less annoying. You get like 1500 points or something like that if you have a bonus unit.

Third pull of Hero Fest yielded no 5*s for me. Got 4* Titania, Hinata, Maria, and Merric, plus a 3* Raigh. The Hinata's nice but the rest I could do without.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 11, 2017, 10:07:09 AM
But that's what my luck is like... I'm trying to get who knows what and the game is like, here, have an out-of-season Linde!

(Meanwhile, I can't actually get the mage I actually want, despite him being available at 4*...)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 11, 2017, 11:24:54 AM
Delthea as a random would be a pretty lucky draw. She's like the best blue tome in the game. Her stats are ridiculously min-maxed and she can end up with like 5 DEF at 5* level 40 if you give her Life and Death.

Tempest is back, but at least it has bonuses for the first two runs you do every day, so it's less annoying. You get like 1500 points or something like that if you have a bonus unit.

Third pull of Hero Fest yielded no 5*s for me. Got 4* Titania, Hinata, Maria, and Merric, plus a 3* Raigh. The Hinata's nice but the rest I could do without.

Delthea's the best blue tome in the game if she's +Spd -literally anything else (even Atk, although it'd be preferable to not have -Atk). -Spd and she's basically a Blue Sanaki who's slightly less double-attack prone and with better Buffs.

Mae's biggest draw is her Blarowl Tome. Without allies to help her shine, she's basically a discount Blue Lilina.

Linde is still the traditional best blue tome due to her ridiculous Spd (enough to double Spd Neutral Delthea) and high Atk, but her skills are pretty bad at this point (although Inheritance fixes that problem lickity-split).

Reinhardt is ridiculous entirely due to Mounted Emblem, and Olwen has the potential to be even better with the right skill build.

Ursula needs Blarblade and Mounted Emblem to compete. She can Mage Duel pretty well though.

Summer Corrin's biggest draw is Boobs and Dragons. Pretty good Spd and Atk, but getting a good Flier Emblem team going is up to luck.

Robin's the anti-Archer/Dagger tank mage but sucks without solid support due to his being mediocre in everything.

Wedding Caeda and Bunny Lucina are basically skill fodder. Decent, but nothing amazing.

Odin has Blarblade and Red Tome Breaker, which is pretty much the only things he's good for other than potentially dropping a Desperate Attack Buff surprise on your ass.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 11, 2017, 02:59:59 PM
Speaking of blue tome users, I wonder what A skill I should give Mae. Fury is the obvious choice and I do have a leftover Hinata or two, but I've been using her as a lure during the T_T and you kinda need HP to play that role... Defiant Attack maybe, for when she does drop below 50% and needs to be on the offensive? I do have a ton of Tikis... Or just Attack +3? From one of my many Cherches?

And speaking of my T_T team, Bikini Robin needs a B skill. I was thinking either Renewal to make most of her default weapon, but maybe I'm overlooking something...

BTW Sanaki is pretty useful. Her stats make her a little more niche than say Celica, but there's something really satisfying about one-shotting Hector. 'Blue Sanaki' might not have some sworn Arena enemy she can counter, but being a Sanaki is not an insult.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 11, 2017, 09:51:28 PM
Speaking of blue tome users, I wonder what A skill I should give Mae. Fury is the obvious choice and I do have a leftover Hinata or two, but I've been using her as a lure during the T_T and you kinda need HP to play that role... Defiant Attack maybe, for when she does drop below 50% and needs to be on the offensive? I do have a ton of Tikis... Or just Attack +3? From one of my many Cherches?

And speaking of my T_T team, Bikini Robin needs a B skill. I was thinking either Renewal to make most of her default weapon, but maybe I'm overlooking something...

BTW Sanaki is pretty useful. Her stats make her a little more niche than say Celica, but there's something really satisfying about one-shotting Hector. 'Blue Sanaki' might not have some sworn Arena enemy she can counter, but being a Sanaki is not an insult.

My comments in regards to comparing Delthea to Sanaki was meant to be less about being derogatory and more about Sanaki jettisoning her Gundamium armor in order to go all Delthea Am (because seriously, they're practically equal in HP, Atk and Res; the difference is between Sanaki's terrible Spd and mediocre Def versus Delthea's high Spd and non-existent Def).

Also because I seriously have the same Traits on both of them which wasn't so bad in regards to Sanaki because her Spd is pretty bad anyways and what else would she want other than more Atk, whereas Delthea really wants Spd to push her up from High Spd to Top Spd to really make good use of that Atk stat, but taking the hit there drops her down to Average Spd where she can't even begin to really leverage her Atk. Its why Linde is still so fucking dangerous as she comes with Top Spd and skills to push that even higher while maintaining High Atk. She can easily double and ORKO most anybody, including Delthea, and of the characters who are faster still, most have damage output issues or lack Linde's 4 square range shadow. Nino's in the same boat as well, but requires solid support skills to optimize, and right now, there are no Red Mages who share Linde's/Nino's stat distribution (Tharja can sorta Macgyver up a comparable spread through Darting Blow and Raudrblade + solid support, but the limitations there are obvious).


Anyways, I find it amusing that just by completing the daily T_T quests has given me over half of my daily quota. I hope the next set of bonus characters for the next T_T are more common/easily obtained, because running around with a team of faux +10 merges would be rather hilarious.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 12, 2017, 08:11:31 AM
The bonus does make things more fun. My Alm has like 60+ attack after a little boost.

In any case, time to pull! Hero Fest. Four red, one colorless.

3* Hinata - This is fine. I was starting to run out of Fury fodder.
3* Stahl - This, on the other hand, is a disappointment. I'll guess I give one of my less interesting 5* Swap or something just to make sure they have something that could prove useful.
3* Fir - What do you mean, 3* and 4* rates were swapped?
3* Palla - ... It's not that's she's not useful. Moonbow is nice. It's just that I still have a stack of Pallas left and I'm running out of character that'd like Moonbow.

The final one better be some awesome 5*, because this is just mean.

4* Azama - ... I guess I'll go train another healer. It's not like having five viable ones is enough or something.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on August 12, 2017, 12:50:31 PM
I'm using Celica as my bonus hero and it's great to see her destroy everything up until Sonya. She's the only one who can take on Sonya too on my team.

I've also had a successful Hero Fest with getting Julia and Ninian in the same summoning session.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on August 12, 2017, 06:06:37 PM
I'm enjoying how much faster and easier TT is this time. Already at 15k! And I'm only running Lunatic 5. As usually, my goal is just to get all the Seals and call it a day.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 13, 2017, 06:18:27 AM
I do Lunatic 7 with a Reinhardt meme team for at least the first two runs, then the rest I do whatever I feel like (mostly I try to get Hero Merit with heroes I use less often since Reinhardt already recapped). Getting ~4000 points for the first two runs of the day helps a lot. I'm at around 25k points right now so I'm nearing the 5* Clive, but he's not much of a prize since he comes with mediocre skills and his stat spread is unimpressive. Still better than Berkut though.

Got some orbs from Tempest but still no luck on my fourth pull on Hero Fest. Got 3* Palla, Robin, and Cecilia (-ATK of course), and 4* Robin and Abel. Really starting to hate Robin for showing up in a cutscene despite being common as hell and having terrible skills. At least I got an Abel, but he's +ATK -RES so I might actually keep him around instead of immediately feeding him to one of my Reds.

I should be able to get one more pull out of Hero Fest before it ends. Hope the pity rate puts out.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 13, 2017, 11:09:38 AM
I'm enjoying how much faster and easier TT is this time. Already at 15k! And I'm only running Lunatic 5. As usually, my goal is just to get all the Seals and call it a day.

I'm enjoying that the difficulty has finally toned down enough for me to score a Lunatic 7 run with an A/A rank. I'm also enjoying the speed that bonus units level at (that Delthea I pulled a few days ago is already Level 40 and has some nice SI, and the thought of having Gray hang around during an SP x2 weekend is hilarious where he can net +24 SP per kill; a T_T with the Askr trio as bonus units would be fucking amazing). The additional rewards after the 50k tier will also be quite nice once I get to them this time (I'm already at 17k). Seriously, they've added 5 additional Orbs, 5000 Feathers, and a shitload of Exp Crystals on top of boosting the Rank rewards from 3500 Feathers at the top group to 10k Feathers).

My one complaint is that between the Arena Assault quests, the Daily quests, the T_T quests and the Training Tower Crystals, just treading water is becoming rather time consuming.


Edit: Got enough Orbs and space together to pull for the Heroes banner. 1 Red and 4 Colorless, looks like I'm hunting for an Orange Fluffy Sheep. First the Red and its a 4 star Palla (more Flier Emblem fodder at least), then its a 3 star Felicia (Breath of Life fodder), 3 star Setsuna (Bowbreaker or replacement material), 3 star Niles (go away Dio, I've got like 6 of you and you're all 3 star garbage) and a 5 star Genny (neutral stats; Bahh bahh motherfuckers!). Looks like Bridal Lyn is taking a break for a while.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 14, 2017, 06:04:19 AM
Side note for people too lazy to keep playing the Tempest: You could always just do continuous auto on the level 30 Hard mode and you'll get like 400 points for doing nothing. Occasionally you might lose one group because the AI is really, really dumb, but it's a nice option since all you have to do is press confirm when its done.

Also Sacred Stones meme is real: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VqaNgtdcx8&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VqaNgtdcx8&feature=youtu.be)

Tana and Innes have the appropriate Sacred Twins. Amelia's the real surprise, and we finally have another armor unit. In fact both Tana and Amelia have some really interesting skills that could fit on an armor team. Kinda sucks Amelia's butting heads with the most competitive armor slot though- Hector is a shoe-in on most teams and Sheena's the best straight tank in the game.

Innes's mage-killing skills will be dependent on his stat spread. If he ends up being another Jeorge people will just drop the Fenrir in favor of Brave Bow or inherit his Fortress Res onto Niles/Felicia.

And also Seth is there for people who ship him with Eirika (and people who like ridiculous gamebreakers).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 14, 2017, 08:38:59 AM
You guys are way too lucky, what with getting actual focus units and getting 1.4 bonusses :(

But! I have 20 orbs again! Time for Hero Fest :D

Four red, one blue. That means Ike.

3* Jagen - Ergh... I guess I could work on my extra Horse Emblem units...
4* Ogma - Whatever.
4* Male Corrin - Blah.
3* Sophia - Yuck.

Final one!

5* Tharja - Why? D:

I should atleast check her stats, I guess, and decide if I should keep working on my old Tharja and feed this one to the Leon I will totally get one day or vice versa.

-Def, + res. Well, that's pretty useless what with my 4* being +atk -res and already having learned a bunch of good skills.

The disappointment continues.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 14, 2017, 09:00:15 AM
+Res on Tharja isn't so bad since it'll let her Mage duel a little more effectively. Besides, Tharja probably wants more Spd since Raudrblade is already a good source of Atk and Darting Blow only helps her on the offense (plus she's on that line between high and top Spd; with +Spd and Darting Blow she could double a neutral Nino without the need for a Breaker skill or Buffs/Auras).

Besides, you don't have to worry about her skills since you can Merge your old 4 star to your new 5 star and she'll have everything you gave her available, and everything you taught her unlocked and ready to use at Level 1 (and you get both some additional SP for the merge, on top of the additional 39 levels of SP ready to be generated again; no +1 unless you're willing to drop 20k Feathers). You just need to make sure you use up all of the SP on the old one first since that doesn't transfer.

As for the T_T 1.4x bonus. At least you still have Berkut and eventually Clive.


Side note for people too lazy to keep playing the Tempest: You could always just do continuous auto on the level 30 Hard mode and you'll get like 400 points for doing nothing. Occasionally you might lose one group because the AI is really, really dumb, but it's a nice option since all you have to do is press confirm when its done.

Also Sacred Stones meme is real: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VqaNgtdcx8&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VqaNgtdcx8&feature=youtu.be)

Tana and Innes have the appropriate Sacred Twins. Amelia's the real surprise, and we finally have another armor unit. In fact both Tana and Amelia have some really interesting skills that could fit on an armor team. Kinda sucks Amelia's butting heads with the most competitive armor slot though- Hector is a shoe-in on most teams and Sheena's the best straight tank in the game.

Innes's mage-killing skills will be dependent on his stat spread. If he ends up being another Jeorge people will just drop the Fenrir in favor of Brave Bow or inherit his Fortress Res onto Niles/Felicia.

And also Seth is there for people who ship him with Eirika (and people who like ridiculous gamebreakers).

In addition to this, Tana's prf gives her a whopping +7 Def when facing Melee opponents (on top of the usual 16 mt prf shenanigans) and has a skill that could be potentially paired with other warping skills for mass warping shenanigans. She's most likely the prize of the Banner.

Sadly, unless Seth has an amazing spread, he's gonna pale compared to his SS self. I am loling at basically setting him up as Valter bait though.

Amelia's skill set is fucking odd since her skills directly conflict with Sheena's and Hector's as Earth Boost ups her Def by 6 with superior HP, but that kinda pales compared to not worrying about Anti-Armor weapons or not being a safe target to fight. Armor March sounds fucking incredible on paper, but it also sounds like it doesn't actually affect her which will suck big time since it means that either she takes point while the rest of the team charges around her/drag her along with support skills (she'll probably need Pivot either way), or she'll be in the rear providing a one-time charge for the rest of the team (Armor Emblem fights have a tendency to get bogged down, especially when lacking the good, offensive Armors). At least her Slayer+ weapon will be useful (assuming its not just fed to Sheena to give her an offense to go with her bulk), and maybe her status as a Trainee in SS will help her here.

Innes' definitely sounds like he could go either way, but he really needs to aim for being a Niles+. At least Nidhogg sounds like it'll make him great Mage Bait if nothing else (oh, look at that, another unit designed around checking Reinhardt and Etrurian Scum). At least he can announce Fighters and Matches ("No Items!, Fox Only!, Final Destination!").


Incidentally, this news finally bumps Magvel's representation out of last place above both Tellus and Jugdral's.

Also, something something, Legion's ReGHeB, something.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 14, 2017, 12:42:23 PM
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+Res on Tharja isn't so bad since it'll let her Mage duel a little more effectively. Besides, Tharja probably wants more Spd since Raudrblade is already a good source of Atk and Darting Blow only helps her on the offense (plus she's on that line between high and top Spd; with +Spd and Darting Blow she could double a neutral Nino without the need for a Breaker skill or Buffs/Auras).

But I want to save one for when I get a Leo. It's for Horse Emblem Blade shenanigans. It's important :(

(Plus, I have Sanaki for mage dueling anyway. The AI turns downright suicidal when she's in range of an enemy Nino or Julia.)

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 14, 2017, 08:19:06 PM
Man, screw Arena Assault. Not only do I get bumped from the 30k-50k tier within the last hour, but trying to scrape together anything higher than what I scored meant fighting 7 goddamn whales. Meanwhile, observing the other ranks made me note that fighting at the Advanced Level is almost completely pointless beyond getting those few extra points (with my Flier Emblem team setting the tone, I saw about 670-ish points per Advanced fight and 650-ish points per Beginner).

My last ditch run amusingly enough ended on a match that had two Reinhardts, a Berkut and a Olivia, the joke being that the Reinhardts and Berkut were a diversion from the Olivia who was sporting a Ruby Sword+, Distant Counter, Green Tomebreaker and Luna for maximum shenanigans. Fortunately for me, I just happened to bring my Bridal Lyn along and the stage allowed for the tried and true tactic of Kiting like a motherfucker (I had also brought along a Delthea to deal with her but then the Reinhardts got to her; and while Boey managed to avenge her, he became the prime target for Olivia; at least he went down swinging).

Well, I figured there had to be a Whales Only mode around here somewhere. I was hoping it would've been contained to the Arena Ranks 19 & 20.


That being said, it took 4 Stamina Drinks to do it, but I managed to beat Legion's Infernal difficulty battle using a team of Cecilia, Delthea, Xander and Olivia (oh and I also cleared out the ReGHeB quests, they weren't much trouble aside from the fact that the devs caught on to players using Story Battles to clear mission requirements involving using GHeB/Askr units to kill GHeB enemies). My Infernal Strats involved sending Cecilia to bait and KO the Archer and Delthea to bait and counter the Red Mage while Olivia waited beneath her outside of attack range while Xander did the same with Cecilia. Turn 2 saw Delthea finishing off the Red Mage while Olivia danced Cecilia to allow for the two hits she needed to defeat the Blue Horse Mage 1 while plugging Legion hole #1 with Xander pluggiing Legion hole #2. Turn 3 needed to precisely have Cecilia attack the western Legion first due to Seal Spd, then Olivia danced her, then Cecilia attacked Xander's Legion to the east, which lets the Seal Spd wear off of her, Delthea finishes Cecilia's first target and doesn't get Seal Spd'd, while Xander finishes Cecilia's second target which lets him proc his BoL1 seal to restore a bit of health to Delthea and Cecilia. Turn 4 is where things get interesting as now I need to finish the southern Legion with Xander and his charged special, which again restores a bit more health to Delthea and Cecilia, then I send Delthea straight into the face of the Blue Mage Infantry and have her blow up the Red Cavalier before having Olivia retreat south to Dance her so that she can eventually attack the Blue Mage Infantry from the West after Cecilia attacks and weakens him so that nobody takes any damage. Now on Turn 5, I must retreat in such a way that I can draw out the Blue Mage Horse #2 in such a way that he cannot kill any unit this turn, while also pulling the final Legion out from in front of him so that Delthea or Cecilia can battle without getting killed by either him or the Blue Mountie, and also allowing me to eliminate one of the three enemies on Turn 6. My winning move is to have Xander park right outside the south east most defense tile to aggro Legion and survive the turn with 6 HP, the rest retreat to the back wall with Olivia right back to where she started, Delthea to her Left and Cecilia to her Right. On Turn 6, the Blue Horsey is now outside of the Defense squares and within Delthea's and Cecilia's range shadows where he'll be dispatched with key emphasis on keeping Cecilia within either 4 squares to the left or 3 squares left and one square up from the right most corner, as this enables Olivia to dance her and allows Cecilia to Reposition Olivia into the southright most corner, with Xander retreating next to her and leaving only Delthea within the four legged Blue Tome's range shadow. Turn 7 needs Delthea and Olivia to weaken Legion enough for Xander to survive killing him (as the last Legion has Vantage and can inflict 3 HP of damage per hit), while Cecilia destroys the final Blue Tome non-Legion.

I made sure to give Delthea the Spd +1 Seal here since her Spd Bane kinda cropped up here as well (she only has just enough Spd to double that Red Cav and not get doubled by the Red Mage or the second Blue Tomestone).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 14, 2017, 08:56:01 PM
I managed to get rank ~2500 or so in Arena Assault. I dropped quite a bit over the week but I think the best an FTP player can hope for is the 500-1000 tier if they're really, really lucky with their pulls. If I decide to merge all those extra Effies I got I might actually end up qualifying for that, but I think I'll save my feathers for actual units.

I don't know if you've tried yet but I suppose you can try giving a high-score setting team a shot. I use Zephiel, Effie, Reinhardt, and Anna on my first team (they're all fully SI'd and Reinhardt is +2, but he's a horse so he drags the score down anyway). The thing is that whales actually have a really easy time getting a perfect score because units like Reinhardt stop showing up at the highest tiers- everything you fight is just the same armor team if I'm not mistaken. It's why there's a massive pileup of god knows how many people at rank 1. I still run into plenty of Reinhardts and Bridellias though.

As for Legion, I beat Infernal the first time around, but I don't recall my strategy too well. I just barely won though, with Roy+Dancer key to winning. Plus if my Roy wasn't +DEF he would've died due to attrition- Legion hits hard as hell.

Armor March sounds fucking incredible on paper, but it also sounds like it doesn't actually affect her

The skill says "unit and any such allies can move 1 extra space", so I think Amelia's actually is affected by it. So I guess the best choice here is for a T-shape formation with Amelia in the center if you're going full armor emblem. Tana might end up being popular on armor teams to fling units around though.

You guys are way too lucky, what with getting actual focus units and getting 1.4 bonusses :(

Hey, I got my Celica way back before the Alm Tempest Trial so it's not like I pulled her just in time. And she's -SPD like half my roster if that makes you feel better.

Also expanding on the whole "continuous auto for Tempest thing"- units with self-sustainability, 1-2 range counters, or vantage help to AIdiot-proof your team. Takumi hasn't gotten much use since I pulled him but he's a real star on continuous auto with just his base kit + Vantage. I gave Celica Renewal 3 a while back because that one Fae I pulled had -ATK. I imagine units with Sol/Noontime would be decent too, so Alfonse might actually have a use for once. If you use healers remember to unequip their weapon so the AIdiot will actually use them to heal instead of just kamikaze-ing them for 3 damage.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 15, 2017, 02:56:10 AM
I ended up at rank 9041, probably because my best characters tend to be of the glass cannon variety, making it difficult to make a team with a high rating. It's not a bad place to be though. The reward is decent.

Oh, Sacred Stones banner is here! Free summon! I'll do my best! :D

4* Florina - ... "I try to do the best I can at everything". Well, obviously you're not trying hard enough, because you're not the pegasus knight I wanted.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 15, 2017, 06:17:05 AM
I managed to get rank ~2500 or so in Arena Assault. I dropped quite a bit over the week but I think the best an FTP player can hope for is the 500-1000 tier if they're really, really lucky with their pulls. If I decide to merge all those extra Effies I got I might actually end up qualifying for that, but I think I'll save my feathers for actual units.

I don't know if you've tried yet but I suppose you can try giving a high-score setting team a shot. I use Zephiel, Effie, Reinhardt, and Anna on my first team (they're all fully SI'd and Reinhardt is +2, but he's a horse so he drags the score down anyway). The thing is that whales actually have a really easy time getting a perfect score because units like Reinhardt stop showing up at the highest tiers- everything you fight is just the same armor team if I'm not mistaken. It's why there's a massive pileup of god knows how many people at rank 1. I still run into plenty of Reinhardts and Bridellias though.

As for Legion, I beat Infernal the first time around, but I don't recall my strategy too well. I just barely won though, with Roy+Dancer key to winning. Plus if my Roy wasn't +DEF he would've died due to attrition- Legion hits hard as hell.

Armor March sounds fucking incredible on paper, but it also sounds like it doesn't actually affect her

The skill says "unit and any such allies can move 1 extra space", so I think Amelia's actually is affected by it. So I guess the best choice here is for a T-shape formation with Amelia in the center if you're going full armor emblem. Tana might end up being popular on armor teams to fling units around though.

You guys are way too lucky, what with getting actual focus units and getting 1.4 bonusses :(

Hey, I got my Celica way back before the Alm Tempest Trial so it's not like I pulled her just in time. And she's -SPD like half my roster if that makes you feel better.

Also expanding on the whole "continuous auto for Tempest thing"- units with self-sustainability, 1-2 range counters, or vantage help to AIdiot-proof your team. Takumi hasn't gotten much use since I pulled him but he's a real star on continuous auto with just his base kit + Vantage. I gave Celica Renewal 3 a while back because that one Fae I pulled had -ATK. I imagine units with Sol/Noontime would be decent too, so Alfonse might actually have a use for once. If you use healers remember to unequip their weapon so the AIdiot will actually use them to heal instead of just kamikaze-ing them for 3 damage.

Legion doesn't just hit hard as hell but is also hella fast and has so many goddamn HP that he can easily survive a round or two of concentrated firepower.


As for what the new skills say, yeah, Amelia's is a full Move booster, which is hella good for Armor Emblem (I'd have her replace my Draug if I can pull her). Meanwhile, the language for Tana's new skill is also out in the game and its not nearly as good as I first thought as it only has a 2-panel range limit, so that limits the potential of mass teleportation.


And on that note, I went and pulled for those Magvellians and all I got were 4 star Sheena, Kagero, Saizo and a 3 star Nino and Subaki. Decent pull, but not what I wanted. The rest of my Orbs are pretty much earmarked for Norhian Scummer now unless I can turn the tables on that one.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 15, 2017, 09:28:31 AM
All the new Orbs mean I might get 2 more goes instead of 1 at Hero Fest before it ends.

4* Florina: stop infecting my game Tomara
5* Celica: off banner 5*, stop infecting my game Tomara
So apparently the FE gods heard my earlier complaint about a bad IV Celica and decided to give me one with +SPD -DEF. Now I have to decide if I want a +1 Celica or if I want to save the Distant Defense to give to someone else in the future. I'm leaning towards the former since I already inherited a bunch of skills onto my -SPD Celica, and I can't think of a lot of uses for Distant Defense right now.
4* Roy: Another +SPD -DEF Hero. -RES or -HP probably would be the more ideal set because you don't want to be losing physical defense on this guy. I might end up just using him for Triangle Adept again.
4* Marth: Another-another +SPD -DEF Hero. Not sure if that's good on him, but I guess I'll keep him around for now.
4* Serra: -SPD. Had to come back to it eventually. At least Serra's one of the good healers to pull though, Recover's the most reliable heal in the game. Getting Hone Attack 1&2 at the same time is nice too.

So now that my Hero Fest pity rate has reset I have to decide if I want to keep pulling in there or try to cash in my Nohrian Scummer pity rate. My rate on Nohrian Scummer is 4.5/4.5% versus Hero Fest which starts at 5%/3%, so I actually have a slightly better chance at something good from the Nohr banner (though it's not like I have enough orbs for that to really matter). The Sacred Stones banner is tempting me too, they knew what they were doing when they gave it same deadline as the Nohrian one. If I'm really, really lucky I might be able to pull a Summer Corrin and then still have 15 orbs left over to get a full pull out of Sacred Stones before it ends.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 15, 2017, 11:59:36 AM
I see that they still haven't fixed the issue with post T_T reports accidentally listing a D rank in Survival as 1.5x (I wish this were a bug in our favor, but sadly the multiplier is still treated as a flat 1.0x).

Currently sitting somewhere between 26k and 27k right now. Admittedly, I've been moving kinda slow lately, but now that Legion's ReGHeB is dealt with, there shouldn't be as much demand for my Stamina for the foreseeable future (err, at least until the Daily Training Tower Missions start up on the 18th; and I suppose I could spend some stamina completing the Scared Stones Missions; and then there's the monthly crap still left (almost done with the Infantry and Fliers, Calvary still needs 10 more runs, and then there's what's left of the 7th, 8th and 9th strata; at least I've only got one Hard tier Story Mission left to do on that end which is cheap enough to not worry about; not like the Stamina sinks that are the Lunatic tier Story Missions; hopefully the Daily Training Tower Missions help with most of this)).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 15, 2017, 02:17:15 PM
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5* Celica: off banner 5*, stop infecting my game Tomara

You stole my random out-of-season Celica. Stealing is not nice D:

But fine! Watch my final Hero Fest pull!

Two colorless, two blue and one red. That is a fine spread.

4* Sophia - Well, atleast you're not 3* for once...

3* Jagen - dananan somethingsomething Jagen...

4* Female Corrin - Traitor.

4* Sakura - I can't hate you, Sakura, but... You know what, if your brother shows up now, I'll declare you best little sister and support you in every Voting Gauntlet your're in, despite your odds of ever winning one are like... zero. How's that?

3* Virion - Dude does not know when he's unwanted.

Well, that was yet another disappointing Hero Fest. I'll spend the rest of the month sniping Flying Corrins. And that will go well, because I'm good at sniping things. Here, let me show you (how I'm currently feeling about FEH):

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4365/35782457823_22700e2a8b_z.jpg)

We only have green, red, white and purple, so pretend this one is blue. Thank you.

... Holy shit, I could recreate the summon screen from FEH and literally snipe orbs! *_*



Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on August 15, 2017, 06:51:56 PM
Are they Christmas baubles Tomara?

I dropped... maybe 50 or so orbs today in an effort to pull Tana from Sacred Stones (I did 1 free pull from Hero Fest, but no planning to draw otherwise). I accidentally ended up with Innes first, quite quickly, when there were no blue orbs to pull (-ATK though, unfortunately). But I just pulled Tana then, so I'm pretty happy right now! Didn't have to drop nearly as many Orbs as I did for Summer Corrin. She's +ATK, -HP too, so I'm pretty happy with that!

I also pulled a 4* Nowi during my attempts. -ATK, so I'm considering pushing her to 5* so my Fae can learn Lighting Breath+ for ranged counter shenanigans. I do like the DEF/RES boost her current weapon gives me though. Hm... decisions...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 16, 2017, 10:38:02 AM
Gonna try Hero Fest again, probably my last chance before it goes unless we magically get like 15 free orbs tomorrow.

3* Subaki: You're perfectly annoying, is what.
3* Lissa: Rehabilitate would be nice, but I'd have to waste 2000 feathers to unlock it.
5* Karel: Oh joy, another red sword, I really needed more.
3* Cherche: +RES, so she's useless.
4* Barst: I ran out of Repositions a while ago so this is okay I guess.

EDIT: Sat down and did my Arena Assault run for the week. I swear it took me like 40 tries before I got a perfect run. It's really awful running into Wings of Mercy, Reinhardt, BladetomeSpam and Dancers just about every single team, and I'm down to using shitty 4* units like Est to fill out my teams. All that and I'm still only rank ~1400, which I'm sure will drop through the week (though I'm probably safely in the 1000-5000 bracket). It's not going to be fun needing to do this every week.

In my winning run I got a full Dragon team on the last round, which was a real godsend because I could just use just Masked Marth to kill almost all of them (Nowi was taken out by Kagero). Had to use two items throughout too, used a Fear Charm and Pressure Charm. Personally I find there are some items way better than others. I think Elixir/Fortifying Horn are useless, Blade/Boots/Tear/Lightning have limited use, Dancer's Veil is good if you have a high mobility unit, Panic Charm's use is obvious, and Fear/Pressure Charm are completely broken.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 17, 2017, 11:35:46 AM
Just ran the numbers and Amelia is fucking ridiculous. 30s in every stat short of Res with 22 and HP for 47. Granted she rates fairly low for HP, Def and Res compared to the other Armors, but her Spd is higher than Draug's at a decent 34 and she's not saddled with a Brave Weapon. Her Atk is only slightly worse than Zephiel's, and with her Slayer weapon and enough Spd to double motherfuckers with it, she's got the offense. And of course, being the Trainee that she is, her Rating is a whopping 173 which gives Armor Emblem the lead over Dragon Emblem, especially since she's solving the Armor's greatest weakness of crap mobility (although 1~2 counter proliferation is on the Dragon's side).

Innes fared fairly well too as he's basically Niles+. For a few less HP and Def, he completely dominates him in Atk, and that's before factoring in his Prf or its effect over Niles' garbage bow and after factoring in Fortress Res. And of course he comes with Cancel Affinity to dick over Etruinian and Grimeal Scum.

Tana is basically a Blue Flying variant on Summer Tiki but trades Def for Spd which probably is a losing trade given Tikini's general bulkiness allowing her to survive and fuck up Red counters, not that Tana could realistically facetank as well anyways given her Flier weakness.

And Seth follows the trend set by Jagen and Titania of being a mediocre unit that'll probably get outclassed sooner or later. Seal Atk/Def is amazing though and hopefully he'll become an Uncommon just for that.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 17, 2017, 12:03:10 PM
Amelia is making Armour Emblem look even more out of reach. Before her, it was Hector or best. Only lucky people and whales have Hectors. Now it'll probably be Hector AND Amelia or bust. Only really lucky people and whales have both.

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And Seth follows the trend set by Jagen and Titania of being a mediocre unit that'll probably get outclassed sooner or later. Seal Atk/Def is amazing though and hopefully he'll become an Uncommon just for that.

Titania has found her niche, though. I see her often enough in Horse Emblem teams with a Brave Axe+. A neutral one can reach a speed of 39 with the right buffs, meaning she'll can double most of the units she needs to double.

Not that I'll ever get to try that. I only get 4* axe users I already have several of... Actually, that goes for green units in general. I'd love to have a Boey or Soren, or heck, a Merric will do, but the game is all like, hey, how about a ninth Cecilia?

Of course, now that I've said this, I'll get Boeys non-stop. That's how my roster was flooded with Laslows and Tikis...

Are they Christmas baubles Tomara?

Yep, and just like with FE Heroes, I only get to snipe them about once a week.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on August 17, 2017, 01:59:32 PM
So I re-installed this and started over. This time I plan to be a little less casual about actually playing the game and a little more casual about my orb pulls. That being said, I got quite the use out of my initial 18 orbs.

Did my free Hero Fest pull for some 3-star dud, and quit at that point

Did my free New Hero Focus pull for a 4-star Peri (my new favorite character), then almost quit at that point but did another pull on a whim for a 5-star Sanaki then a third for a 4-star Felicia

Finally, did my free Tempest Trial pull or whatever, got a three star, and did a few more pulls for some more 3-stars (including another Felicia) and a 5-star Gray.

So my starting team is 5-star Sanaki, 5-star Gray, 4-star Peri, and 4-star Felicia

No idea how to check for +/- stats.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 17, 2017, 02:49:44 PM

No idea how to check for +/- stats.

This one is the easiest to use, IMO: https://feheroes.gamepedia.com/Stats_Calculator

If you click on the portrait, you're transported to the character page where you'll find suggestions for builds, some based on the banes/boons.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on August 17, 2017, 03:31:47 PM

No idea how to check for +/- stats.

This one is the easiest to use, IMO: https://feheroes.gamepedia.com/Stats_Calculator

If you click on the portrait, you're transported to the character page where you'll find suggestions for builds, some based on the banes/boons.

Okay, yeah, I don't really care that much. Thought it was something in the game.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 18, 2017, 07:28:19 AM
In retrospect if the game came out today, I might actually spend time rerolling my account over and over until I got a Hector. But then I'm probably underestimating how long it'd take for that to happen.

You got a pretty good starting team though, with two 5*s. I think I was like a week into the game before I got my first 5*, and it was Roy, who sucks more than his incarnation in his home game, because at least there the Binding Blade was probably the most broken weapon in the entire series.

Also New Bladetome banner. Tempting, but I'm saving my orbs now for Summer Corrin, and a 15-orb roll on Sacred Stones if I'm lucky. Got 3* Fir on my free pull.

EDIT: 5*'d that Raven I pulled a bit back. I'm pretty satisfied with him, he's quad-ing decently often. Legion seems to be a more popular choice for Brave Axeing, but that would take 5*ing two characters, and I like Raven better anyway. Also my Raven has a SPD boon which makes him faster than Legion, making him better at the whole quad-ing thing, and Legion has lot of his BST dumped into HP, which makes him worse at hitting Desperation range.

Also tried pulling for Summer Corrin but got 2 3* Subakis instead. I really wish the guy could at least give Quick Riposte 3 at 4*.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 19, 2017, 11:14:22 PM
Pulled for Late Summer, got 2 useless peg knights (3 star Est and Florina), a 4 star Lukas with almost good traits (+Def/-Atk, I'd rather he nuke Spd, but his job is Def so I'll take it unless I pull a better one someday), a 3 star Palla (to replace the 3 star I burned to make room for the pull (at least Catria can now get onto Team Flier Emblem), and a 4 star Nino (that isn't replacing my current Level 40 4 star Nino).

Also took my freebie Blade banner pull and got a 4 star Lon'qu. My previous 4 star Lon'qu has better traits (+Def/-Spd versus +HP/-Def).

Currently, just shy of 64k in T_T.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 20, 2017, 04:38:12 AM
I spent a stamina potion to get my Tempest score up to 95k and get myself a rounded 20 orbs.

4* Est: I guess I should take all these 4* Ests I have and merge them, she has no other use anyway. Defiant Res is worthless and while Seal Spd can find its place on a couple builds, she doesn't even get level 3 for it at 4*. Bleh. Even her weapon sucks. Or I guess I could send them home and get some feathers.
4* Nowi: Already have a +SPD -RES one, which I think is one of the best sets on her. This one's -ATK too. Though she does have Threaten Res 3 and I've been wanting that, so that's nice.
5* Hinoka: Well, there goes my pity rate. There are definitely worse ways to end this escapade, I have no 5* fliers and she's the only unit with Hone Fliers. On top of that, she's -HP +SPD, which is probably not ideal because her SPD at 40 with the Brave Lance will sit at an awkward 30, but it's probably one of the better sets she can have and I should be thankful she's not -ATK or something.
3* Beruka: Decided to keep pulling to see if my pity rate would cash in. Not so.
3* Draug: At least I can promote him for Ward Armor eventually.

That's probably my last pull for Nohrian Scummer. With the upcoming daily login bonus I'll get enough to pull again before the banner ends, but it's probably better spent on the Sacred Stones banner since the Summer banner is still stuck with the old 4* rates.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 20, 2017, 04:48:53 AM
I spent a stamina potion to get my Tempest score up to 95k and get myself a rounded 20 orbs.

5* Hinoka: Well, there goes my pity rate. There are definitely worse ways to end this escapade, I have no 5* fliers and she's the only unit with Hone Fliers. On top of that, she's -HP +SPD, which is probably not ideal because her SPD at 40 with the Brave Lance will sit at an awkward 30, but it's probably one of the better sets she can have and I should be thankful she's not -ATK or something.

That 30 is only awkward intil you take the buffs into account. +4 makes it a pretty okay 34. She'll be able to double a decent amount of units with that. You could even trade in Defiant Def. for something that boosts speed because she should be getting a def boost from her Flyer Emblem buddies anyway.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 20, 2017, 06:03:18 AM
Definitely going to trade in Defiant Def eventually, but I'm always on a shortage of both Hinatas and Hanas. I think what annoys me is how Hinoka is just a straight up worse version of Cordelia. She has equal attack and less speed in exchange for some extra HP and DEF which probably isn't going to save her from anything. IIRC they were both in the game from the start, so it's dumb they didn't realize that (I doubt they didn't already decide that skill inheritance would be a thing). They both come with Brave Lance too, so even if I wanted to build them differently it would cost another 5* unit. Really wish the Fates team would've given the lady royals some legendary weapons, but I guess Lobster Samurai and Cotton Candy Fetishman were already breaking that game enough.

I have a -HP +SPD Cordelia, so if I ever came into possession of Life and Death 3, it might do me better to give it to Cordelia and then promote her instead of Hinoka. Of course, I have like 4 or 5 units that would love Life and Death 3 including the Raven I just promoted, and that's on top of the fact that I'm not crazy about killing off 5* units for their skills. Did it with Genny and still kinda regret it.

Plus one of the Life and Death 3 units is Minerva, who is the only unit with Ward Fliers. The Flier buffs in general are in really short supply. Hone and Ward are both only on one unit, and Fortify comes on a 4-5* unit (and Summer Corrin). Goad's the only common one but I guess you can at least stack that.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 20, 2017, 11:20:33 AM
Yay, I got myself some Nohrian scum! Granted, Summer Corrin is -spd and therefore a huge disappointment, but whatever. I'll fix that 31 speed one way or another. Besides, she'll be spending a lot of time with Bunny Camilla, and I think we can all agree that is punishment enough. I'm going to love hating my Flyer Emblem team.

In other news, I was looking for a unit to sacrifice fodder to and am now well on my way to building an +atk Quadsuna. Biggest challenge will be getting a Brave Bow+. Those are very expensive...

My T_T news: I'm on track to hit 80,000 points today, so 99,999 should be easily reached before the deadline.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on August 21, 2017, 03:07:03 PM
Has Tomara gotten Takumi yet?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 21, 2017, 03:36:46 PM
No, Tomara has not.

If this continues, I'll have some stupid special version of him before I get the regular one.

T_T news: have been using hard mode to level up Summer Corrin, Clive, the Tharja I didn't want and some Cherche I intend to make a member of team Wing. Now I'm able to efficiently get them to a high level and meet my daily quotum.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on August 21, 2017, 03:55:21 PM
Since Tempest Trials is finally somewhat tolerable, I was able to finally make my goal of getting all Seals and 5* units. I'll probably got to 50k and be happy.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 22, 2017, 08:19:41 AM
I've continued past 100k, hoping to get to rank >5000 before this is over. I'm going to guess rank 1-1000 requires an absurd score not remotely worth the time investment. I'm somewhat close, but there's a lot of shuffling every day. Not much to spend stamina on regardless- I'll have a couple days to do Valter and plenty of time to grind up Hinoka after Tempest ends.

In the meantime I've been getting HM on Clive and Berkut. I figure I might as well do that for them now, when they get their big stat boosts since they're unimpressive units otherwise (Celica's capped long ago but she's still in since she gives the bonus and all). I've heard some people say Clive's worse than Berkut, but that's not been my experience at all. The only thing I needed to give Clive was Bonfire from one my extra Robins and he's been pretty great at dealing with other physical units. Berkut's base kit is terrible and the only way I could imagine making him functional is making him a Brave Lancer since he has a pretty nice ATK stat.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 23, 2017, 11:44:48 AM
Made some room in my baracks. I will now attempt to summon someone who is not Seth from the Sacred Stones banner.

Three green, two red.

4* Cherche - Egh... whatever.

3* Cherche - Stop stalking me!

Final one for now.

5* Camilla - Fuuuuuuuuuuuu...! That is exactly the opposite of what I wanted! I wanted a little girl drowning in her own armour, not a pair of tits being strangled by some metal scraps that are supposed to be armour but are certainly not!

On the upside, she's +atk, -res.

But maybe I'll just feed her to my good Cherche. The only thing Camilla is going to double is her backpain, so I might as well go with a green flyer with more attack power.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on August 23, 2017, 11:47:35 AM
I'm already just saving my orbs in case there's some neat Halloween themed units coming in October.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 23, 2017, 11:53:36 AM
I'm going to save up a little too, but the Sacred Stones banner has two very interesting units and a good archer. These are all things I need.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 23, 2017, 09:07:27 PM
Pulled for Scummer once more. Got 3 blue, a red and a green which netted me a Summer Elise and a bunch of crap. At least I pulled a 5 star who actually has great traits for once (+Spd/-Def) and she can help me train up all those Green Mages like Cecilia, Nino, Boey, or Female Robin (oh wait, I have all of those trained to 5 star Level 40 aside from Nino and F!Robin who're at 4 star Level 40).

Well, she can help me finish training my Merric (who's currently at level 30-something 4 star). Maybe if I pull a Julia, Sonya or Soren she could help them out.

Either way that wipes out my 4.something% pity rate. I'm still gonna try for Summer Corrin though because dammit, I want that Flying Tome (also because getting her would complete my Bikini Party Summer; and at the very least, I still suspect that seasonal pulls are a one-time only deal, even if I have to suffer bad rates), even though I've only got 3 Orbs left to T_T mkIII. On that note, I've finally managed to bump myself up to Tier 19 in the last round of Arena which is good because I get to keep that extra Orb income for once.

Btw, does Eliwood's Durandal's effect still stack with Death Blow 3? Because I have this Klein burning a hole in my Barracks and I still need a good A skill on Eliwood.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 24, 2017, 01:38:26 AM
Well, Summer Elise gives Green Tome SP and not EXP, so you might still get some use out of her for your level 40s if you need some skills on them still. As for Summer Elise herself, she's almost identical to Nino, most notable difference being her ATK and SPD are flipped, so she's worse with a Bladetome. Still nice to have around since Arena Assault spams Reinhardts at you though.

With all the new Orbs we can get from the new Turn Limit Stages I'm also considering sinking into Scummer before it goes away. Have to decide between that or getting a 15-orb full pull from Sacred Stones. The Sacred Stones character I want the most is probably L'Arachel so I could always wait for her to show up (watch her be a staffbot though).

Also, yeah Death Blow stacks on Durandal- it's probably the most common A skill people run on Eliwood since it makes him a crazy strong initiator. I have Fury on mine because I've only ever pulled one Klein.

I'm going to save up a little too, but the Sacred Stones banner has two very interesting units and a good archer. These are all things I need.

They're probably going to constantly try to one-up themselves with how good the units are with each banner, so if you're tempted by the Sacred Stones banner for non-character-related reasons you should get used to that. Also yeah, Cherche is probably the best Brave Axe user in the game so if you have a +ATK one she'd like it from Camilla. Camilla's stat spread is balanced , so Brave Axe is like the worst weapon they could've given her. I think a lot of people either give her Killer Axe or Emerald Axe if they really want to use her.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 24, 2017, 06:06:05 AM
They're probably going to constantly try to one-up themselves with how good the units are with each banner, so if you're tempted by the Sacred Stones banner for non-character-related reasons you should get used to that. Also yeah, Cherche is probably the best Brave Axe user in the game so if you have a +ATK one she'd like it from Camilla. Camilla's stat spread is balanced , so Brave Axe is like the worst weapon they could've given her. I think a lot of people either give her Killer Axe or Emerald Axe if they really want to use her.

I gave her Seal Defense 3 so that she could tank and debuff non-bow 2 range units since her Def and Res aren't bad and the +6/+6 Def/Res buff is generally more available than the other non-Palla ones.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 25, 2017, 05:07:43 AM
Got rank ~4200 in Tempest, but I actually needed to drop a stamina potion towards the end so I wouldn't drop below 5000. People were really hammering it those last few hours.

Anyway I did the Turn Limit maps. Most were bulldozed without much problem with Horse Emblem, but goddamn is map 3 with the armors annoying. Also leveled up Karel and Hinoka a bit.

Choose Your Legends announcement is coming on 8/28, so I'm going to hold onto these orbs I just got, since the Scummer/Sacred Stones banner will still be around after that. They sure are making it hard to decide what I should do with my orbs.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 25, 2017, 06:16:32 AM
Got rank 3817 in the T_T (about 140k+ IIRC; it also took me roughly 12 Stamina Drinks all said and done) for 8k feathers on top of all the daily stuffs and the tiered rewards. Which helps to offset my promoting Berkut to 5 star for reasons of 'just because' (and also to take advantage of the T_T boosts), which was in of itself not the most well conceived plan in this game as I didn't get him up to level 40 (at least there are bigger wastes of 20k feathers than a subpar GHeBer who's yet to have his ReGHeB).

As for my quest for my Bikini Party Summer, goddammit FEH! That's the wrong scantily clad female. Also stop giving me jailbait. At least Dragon Emblem is now officially a go. Traits are +Def/-HP for what its worth (not terrible actually since HP is still pretty good while +Def shores up a weakness, though I still would prefer +Atk or +Spd). Still gonna try for Scorrin if I can get enough orbs together in time, though my chances aren't looking so good anymore.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 28, 2017, 12:20:33 AM
Yep, I'm definitely going to be saving my Orbs for CYL. Roy looks to be a better Eliwood, Ike facetanks brave weapons, and Lyn is another archer designed to kill Bladetomes and ignores distant counter...and she's on a horse. Lucina's probably the least interesting unit this time IMO. I probably should've had more self-control and saved my orbs for this instead of wasting it on Nohrian Scum, especially considering how I didn't even get the prize unit for that banner. Oh well, at least we're getting a decent amount of orbs over the next few days.

So, we get to have a free CYL 5* unit of our choice. Hoping that'll be a separate thing from the banner itself so we can just pull out of the banner and then decide later which free unit we want. If we have to choose first I'll probably go for Lyn though, because she's probably the most interesting unit, I can avoid colorless hell, and FE7 characters are life.

That being said, I did my free pull of Sacred Stones and got a 3* Arthur.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 28, 2017, 02:14:52 AM
Yep, I'm definitely going to be saving my Orbs for CYL. Roy looks to be a better Eliwood, Ike facetanks brave weapons, and Lyn is another archer designed to kill Bladetomes and ignores distant counter...and she's on a horse. Lucina's probably the least interesting unit this time IMO. I probably should've had more self-control and saved my orbs for this instead of wasting it on Nohrian Scum, especially considering how I didn't even get the prize unit for that banner. Oh well, at least we're getting a decent amount of orbs over the next few days.

So, we get to have a free CYL 5* unit of our choice. Hoping that'll be a separate thing from the banner itself so we can just pull out of the banner and then decide later which free unit we want. If we have to choose first I'll probably go for Lyn though, because she's probably the most interesting unit, I can avoid colorless hell, and FE7 characters are life.

That being said, I did my free pull of Sacred Stones and got a 3* Arthur.

Yeah, Lucina's got some hilarious buffing potential (+3/+6 Atk/Spd Aura; potentially +7/+6, +3/+10 or +6/+9 with Rallies before Seals or Allies) but nothing that'll make her stand out above the rest beyond a free Def+3 skill baked into her weapon, meanwhile Roy can potentially stack Cooldown reducing effects for near constant Galeforce shenanigans on top of having a +19 Mt weapon, Ike can shutdown the various Emblem teams and Braves and/or anybody relying upon excessive Spd/counter Special activations, and Lyn is now the third unit in the game that can sport a mounted Brave weapon on top of being able to shutdown Distant Counter again (although she can't stack that with Cancel Affinity for maximum 'screw the rules').

As for the choosening, it'll be handled separately than the usual as it's giving us only 4 orbs to pick from (one of each color guys; I bet that was totally random and completely not planned #douchebagging #donaldtweet) with faces to further identify which character you're getting. It'll look like this:
(https://serenesforest.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/FreeUnit-291x300.png)
As for my freebie pick, take a wild guess.

Also, lol at the CYL designs being a Promotion, two Daddy Boy variants and a Breast Cup + Mane ("She stuck a feather in her ponytail and called it Macaroni!"). At least we've finally got a western localization for Mulagir (formerly Murgleis).

Also also, the VG is actually kinda interesting in that while Lyn was the winner of CYL, she only won on the technicality of Ike's vote getting split due to his two appearances compared to her one (although they would've been kinda close). Meanwhile, we're still walking off the sugar rush and subsequent salted caramels that was last VG's upsets known as Summer Gaius. Plus Ike and Lyn wont face off until the very last round unlike the last two VGs where the strongest match ups were at the start. Now is the time to finally choose between numbers or waifu.


In progress news, I've more or less finished August's Missions (just three more runs with Mounted Emblem), the Speed Battles and Valter's non-Infernal GHeB. And while I could try to finish Valter now, the idea of running CYL Lyn on top of the rest of Horse Emblem makes me want to hold off until the ReGHeB in December or something.

Instead I think I'm going to try for more Orbs and September Missions (even though the Sacred Seals missions are only netting me more Orbs/Feathers).

Also gonna keep trying for the last part of Bikini Party Scummer, my current pull didn't land me anybody from the Focus, but it did net me a 4 star Tharja, Gunter and Seliph (I'm finally on the board for Jugdral) as well as a replacement Setsuna to the one I fed Xander for the GHeB. All in all, not bad, but can I do better in time?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 28, 2017, 03:36:53 AM
I think I'll go for a free Lyn and then aim for Ike with my orbs. There are a lot of green units I don't have yet, even 4*s I really, really want, so that option is the least likely one to end in disappointment.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 28, 2017, 04:35:06 AM
Mulagir and Murgleis are actually the same thing if I'm not mistaken, but most games I've played go with Murgleis. Guess they wanted to go with the even more foreign-sounding one since Hanon's from Sacae (or they wanted to troll fan translators). Does make me wonder if we ever get an Elibe remake if they'll rectify the mistake of Lyn being shit at killing the dragon because Sol Katti plinks against its scales.

Roy getting Durandal makes decent enough sense since he can use it in FE6 if you really want him to, but I'm still kinda mad that the Binding Blade in Heroes is trash despite probably being the most broken weapon in the entire series.

In terms of progress I've 5*'d one my Xanders because despite the overload of red swords, he's just too good of a unit to not have for the relatively low cost he takes. I also 4*'d a Laslow and Donnel with decent boons, and gave the former a Brave Sword. Laslow's just a worse Grey at this point, but he's a superior husbando so I'll keep him around.

Also 2 new free pulls from the Voting Gauntlet banners. I'm actually kinda tempted to dump Orbs to try to get a Hector from the guys banner, but I'll hold off since there's a much better chance of Hector appearing in a future banner over the CYL units. Got a 3* Frederick...and a 5* Marth. Dammit, can't I at least get one of the cool red swords? Well, I guess having the series mascot is nice enough, and he's +HP -DEF, which isn't good but at least it's not -ATK or -SPD.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 28, 2017, 07:36:23 AM
Mulagir and Murgleis are actually the same thing if I'm not mistaken, but most games I've played go with Murgleis. Guess they wanted to go with the even more foreign-sounding one since Hanon's from Sacae (or they wanted to troll fan translators). Does make me wonder if we ever get an Elibe remake if they'll rectify the mistake of Lyn being shit at killing the dragon because Sol Katti plinks against its scales.

Hence my comment about Mulagir being formerly known as Murgleis. But yeah, both Mulagir and Durandal were both weapons of the 8 Heroes in the Elibe games along with Hector's Armadas, Athos' Forblaze and Aureola (and Zephiel's transforming Sword/Lance Eckesachs) which is why they're so powerful compared Blazing Sword's S-rank weapons (stuff like Lloyd's Regal Blade, Rex Hasta and Basilikos, Reinflech and Luce to name a few) and Sol Katti has the unfortunate distinction of being a similar discount legendary compared to the real deals which is why it lacks the Dragon Slaying effective damage (not that Effective Damage meant much in the GBA era), with the fact that its straight up awful being sort of an unintended side effect (along with the whole, females getting screwed over in terms of Con, Gendered Caps, Numbers and Proneness to Naivety during that era).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 29, 2017, 09:56:22 AM
I can only assume they went with the whole Sol Katti thing because none of the established legendary weapons from FE6 really "matched" with Lyn's swordmaster motif. It's still weird they didn't let you have the option of passing the Durandal to her though, I mean in the unused data of the game they even had a whole set of animations all ready for it.

along with the whole, females getting screwed over in terms of Con, Gendered Caps, Numbers and Proneness to Naivety during that era

One thing I always found kinda interesting was looking up the popularity votes for Fire Emblem 7, where they actually put out ratios for how the male players voted versus how the female players voted. The top slots were occupied by obvious choices like the leads and Nino, but most of them weighted towards male players (probably because of more male players in general). The character weighted favorably by women, as I recall, were Kent, Erk and Pent. Actually I don't think a single female character ended up having female-weighted votes. I'd really like to see how votes like that would look for Awakening or Fates characters- wonder if they've ever made any female characters that actually appeal to women?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 29, 2017, 08:48:44 PM
I can only assume they went with the whole Sol Katti thing because none of the established legendary weapons from FE6 really "matched" with Lyn's swordmaster motif. It's still weird they didn't let you have the option of passing the Durandal to her though, I mean in the unused data of the game they even had a whole set of animations all ready for it.

along with the whole, females getting screwed over in terms of Con, Gendered Caps, Numbers and Proneness to Naivety during that era

One thing I always found kinda interesting was looking up the popularity votes for Fire Emblem 7, where they actually put out ratios for how the male players voted versus how the female players voted. The top slots were occupied by obvious choices like the leads and Nino, but most of them weighted towards male players (probably because of more male players in general). The character weighted favorably by women, as I recall, were Kent, Erk and Pent. Actually I don't think a single female character ended up having female-weighted votes. I'd really like to see how votes like that would look for Awakening or Fates characters- wonder if they've ever made any female characters that actually appeal to women?

I think Titania is basically it due to being a Jagen/Oifey who's also more of a team mom, isn't defined by some kind of gimmick like being a surprisingly big eater or wanted to be a cleric before she wrestled and tamed a wyvern, doesn't have any major emotional breakdowns or is childishly naive, doesn't need to be rescued from a prison or a deal gone bad, dresses in a way that's not miniskirts, high heels, fishnet body suits, shoulderless numbers, 'breast' plates, or sporting cleavage & crotch windows that she frequently waves in front of the camera; and isn't shelved as soon as she joins.

A lot of the earlier games don't have a lot of females in general and most of them tended towards being staffbots or Pega Pony Princesses. The few exceptions there were constantly tied to more relevant male counterparts and/or needing rescuing. The GBA-DS era at least made more Female Mages and Archers, but you were still counting the firsts or seconds for females in particular classes that were considered beyond the norm on top of all the gender caps and Con nonsense. And while the 3DS era has finally achieved parity between the number of females as well as reducing the class gender gap to almost nothing, its still pretty backhanded in terms of reclass options (so many physical units turning into staffbots for no goddamn reason), Prfs (10 goddamn story relevant characters and yet only the male half + the bi-gendered one get Prfs and all of them sire sons, except the bi-gendered one who bares the opposite for gender parity reasons; all the females get are support oriented Personal Skills, which can't be inherited by their sons or daughters), designs (the aforementioned crotch windows as well as trying to compete with fucking Senran Kagura (or at least Soul Calibur at their nadir) among other issues) and paired endings (so many Fates females just completely lose whatever they're going to do with themselves to go be somebody's waifu).

As for the gender split within the fanbase, it bares mentioning that the vast majority of FE's fanbase right now are Smash Bros converts. Many only really know of Marth, Ike, Roy, Lyn, Lucina, the Robins and the Corrins, and maybe some of the characters repped as Trophies (in fact, I bet that the vast majority of Tharja's fanbase don't care about her appearance, so much as her lack of an appearance as the only SSB43DS Trophy that got censored out of the non-Japan releases, which led to the disparity between early JP datamined guides and player's save files, which in turn led to the research to Tharja's T&A), as they're, if not the only, then the first characters from the series they've interacted with (hell, how many FE games were at least ironically referred to as 'the games without Marth or Roy in this' upon release?). I suspect that factoring them out might make the gender divide a lot less stark, especially when factoring in all the shipping going on as that's more of a bi-gendered activity versus the more hardcore competitive nature of SSB's community).


Anyways, getting away from the gender politics of the main series, I wound up busting up Infernal Valter after all, as despite my previous statement, I had to burn some SI Fodder anyways. I've since been farming Orbs in my hopeless quest for Summer Corrin, made continuously more hopeless with nearly every pull (as the last four pulls have netted me a 5 star Nowi, a 4 star Seliph, a 5 star Lilina (neutral traits) and a 4 star Eirika, along with some other decent fodder like a 4 star Gunter and a second 4 star Jakob (except for the Lilina pull as that was my first pick of the litter and I said, "Screw this" and saved my remaining 15 Orbs for the pull; the rest were either Green or Colorless anyways). On the upside to this, with my Eirika pull, I think I've finally netted my first CYL pick (of the twelve I made; with only one repeat between them). Still need to get my hands on Sonya, Olwen and vanilla Lyn for the available ones.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 30, 2017, 02:56:55 AM
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I'd really like to see how votes like that would look for Awakening or Fates characters- wonder if they've ever made any female characters that actually appeal to women?

Most of the older games had a few girls/women that may not have been designed to appeal to girls/women but do in some way. There's the occassional competent asskicker, of course, but many women also like cutesy characters. There's a reason why the average anime convention looks like ground zero of the Love Live apocalypse. (And when it's really hot, they do tend to move like zombies - slow and tired, dragging their legs to their next photo shoot. Fornunately, you can tell by their outfits what cosplayers are the most dangerous ones. The ones in yukata are just going to pose and smile at the camera, but anything dressed in a performer outfit might actually start to dance. If you see a large group in cheerleader outfits - run. Just run and don't look back.)

Anyway, no matter how you look at it, those 'I want to be them' female characters will always lose to the 'I want to be with them' male characters when it comes to polls.

Speaking of favorite female characters, I've been thinking about promoting Oboro to 5* just because I can. I'm not sure which one to use yet though and I'm also not entirely sure what kind of skill set I want.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 30, 2017, 09:33:21 AM
Anyway, no matter how you look at it, those 'I want to be them' female characters will always lose to the 'I want to be with them' male characters when it comes to polls.

I get the impression it's not so different for guys considering all the waifus curbstomping everyone in the voting gauntlets so far. But yeah, I guess that's why I'm interested in seeing the gender ratio of votes for some of the more recent games, because apparently Corrin F topped the female character rankings for Fates (of course Camilla was second...and Oboro was third, which I actually did not know or expect).

Also I've personally been waiting to get a +DEF Oboro (and probably either -HP or -RES) before I invest into her. I think she's probably best doing the whole physical tank thing like she does in her home game, so I'd go for a Killer weapon (Slaying Lance doesn't exist yet, but probably will soon) + Bonfire/Ignis build. It sucks when a character comes with a crappy weapon...have to kill another 5* if you want her to be fighting things outside of Zephiel. But if you end up feeding her a weapon from another 5*, you could always just go for a 4*+10 Oboro since you wouldn't need the stupid Heavy Lance+ from promoting.

I wound up busting up Infernal Valter after all, as despite my previous statement, I had to burn some SI Fodder anyways. I've since been farming Orbs in my hopeless quest for Summer Corrin, made continuously more hopeless with nearly every pull (as the last four pulls have netted me a 5 star Nowi, a 4 star Seliph, a 5 star Lilina (neutral traits) and a 4 star Eirika, along with some other decent fodder like a 4 star Gunter and a second 4 star Jakob (except for the Lilina pull as that was my first pick of the litter and I said, "Screw this" and saved my remaining 15 Orbs for the pull; the rest were either Green or Colorless anyways). On the upside to this, with my Eirika pull, I think I've finally netted my first CYL pick (of the twelve I made; with only one repeat between them). Still need to get my hands on Sonya, Olwen and vanilla Lyn for the available ones.

I personally found Valter to be the hardest GHB so far, a real far cry from the re-run of Narcian that began today who I prompted beat on Infernal easily. Really shows how they're getting more and more ridiculous with how hard they're trying to make these fights. To be fair that might be because I lack any good offensive archers. I still haven't pulled a new Klein and the two 5* Archers I have wouldn't cut it. Takumi's a defensive archer and Jeorge is...well, just not that good with his default weapon. I ended up using a +ATK Gordin I promoted to 4*. He was pretty useful in taking care of the flierspam the map throws at you.

Also my condolences on pulling that Lilina. I want one myself but mostly to fill the FEH Pokedex, wouldn't want her to kill my pity rate. IMO she's been outclassed in pretty much every way since Sanaki exists and Celica showed up. She's slow, but still has too many points "wasted" in speed so she can't do TA Raven as well as Sophia. She has a monster ATK stat but no legendary weapon renders it kinda pointless. Wish they'd given her Forblaze since I'm guessing half the players of FE6 gave it to her on their first playthrough, but I'm sure they'll be saving that for some special event Lilina down the road when they remake Elibe.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 30, 2017, 10:30:47 AM
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apparently Corrin F topped the female character rankings for Fates (of course Camilla was second...and Oboro was third, which I actually did not know or expect).

Yeah, that is kinda unexpected. I mean, Oboro is a great character and would actually make a good partner (she's very caring, will make sure you have your shit together and is always ready to stab whatever is threatening you), but that's not usually what these polls are about. People are much more likely to go for one-dimensional traits and quirks that suit their... tastes.

I considered playing as a guy and marrying her in Revelation, but let's be honest, a girl like Oboro deserves much better than a shitty player avatar.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on August 30, 2017, 10:58:09 AM
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apparently Corrin F topped the female character rankings for Fates (of course Camilla was second...and Oboro was third, which I actually did not know or expect).

Yeah, that is kinda unexpected. I mean, Oboro is a great character and would actually make a good partner (she's very caring, will make sure you have your shit together and is always ready to stab whatever is threatening you), but that's not usually what these polls are about. People are much more likely to go for one-dimensional traits and quirks that suit their... tastes.

I considered playing as a guy and marrying her in Revelation, but let's be honest, a girl like Oboro deserves much better than a shitty player avatar.

Someone like Ryoma?  Picturing their romance anime storyline in my head was one of the best parts of Birthright's story.  That's not a compliment to the game, btw.  Still, Fates' characters are good, and Support convos are the best writing in the game.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 30, 2017, 11:13:10 AM
I thought the writing was very uneven. Some characters, like Oboro, Takumi and Mozu, have good support convos all around, but there are also a lot of characters, especially in the second generation, that got the short end of the stick and aren't much more than entertaining traits and tropes on a good day. And then there are characters like Xander who seem to have a split personality because of the difference in writing between the actual story and the support conversations.

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Someone like Ryoma?

That one was sweet. Takumi is good too. I love how he encourages her to be her own person.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 30, 2017, 11:32:01 AM
Oboro's great at a lot of things, but I don't know if I could handle her Takumi obsession. Also in my playthrough I paired Ryoma with Orochi.

For me the big problem with Fates' supports (and to a lesser extent Awakening, but I think it was a lot worse in Fates) is the need for almost any pairing to be possible. I feel at times it really limits what they can do with the supports, or it awkwardly adds a marriage proposal to the end of a support chain that didn't really have any romantic implications whatsoever. Also if you want to play "optimally" it forces you to pair someone up with Hayato, who is Ricken minus the cute.

Xander's probably the worst case of Fate's uneven main story/support writing, and like half of it for me comes down to Peri...well, existing. The stupid thing is that they had a perfectly reasonable way for Peri to exist and have it make sense- make it so that Peri was forced on Xander as a retainer by Garon.

And yeah, the child characters in Fates were pathetic compared to the Awakening ones, the worse ones being the expies from Awakening. Kind of a shame because I actually did like a couple of the child characters (Mostly Shiro, but I liked Kiragi and Soleil alright too). Really, to me the feature in general felt really tacked-on and the in-world explanation for them is just absurd (honestly I feel the Nohr/Hoshido continent in general is just really poorly developed compared to pretty much any other from the series outside of Archanea, which has an excuse since it was made in the 8 bit days).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 30, 2017, 11:53:34 AM
Oboro's great at a lot of things, but I don't know if I could handle her Takumi obsession.

I think she explains it well enough in her support with Hinata (which is also the only one of her supports where Takumi is even mentioned, IIRC): Takumi is like a fantasy or an ideal, and she knows she can't base a real relationship on that.

Personally, her being wary of anything Nohr is probably more awkward. I mean, she does always explain that it's because of a very bad experience and that she does want to try to get along but that she'll need time, but still... if looks could kill, it's be Oboro's.

(Which is actually kind of funny, because the name Oboro always reminds me of that pulpy classic The Koga Ninja Scrolls, and that Oboro's glare happens to neutralise deadly ninja stuff.)

Anyway, the flaws are part of what makes her great, because she's acknowledges them and tries to overcome them.

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For me the big problem with Fates' supports (and to a lesser extent Awakening, but I think it was a lot worse in Fates) is the need for almost any pairing to be possible. I feel at times it really limits what they can do with the supports, or it awkwardly adds a marriage proposal to the end of a support chain that didn't really have any romantic implications whatsoever.

Yeha, and that 'shipping first' mentality led to some support conversations that should have existed not existing. For instance, parent-child supprt convos and romantic Avatar stuff aside, there's no interaction between the two generations despite there being characters that could have had very interesting/fun/sweet conversations together. I wanted to see Oboro and Forrest talk about their views on fashion! But that
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on August 30, 2017, 03:08:51 PM
Some characters, like Oboro, Takumi and Mozu, have good support convos all around, but there are also a lot of characters, especially in the second generation, that got the short end of the stick and aren't much more than entertaining traits and tropes on a good day.

You know who's really under-appreciated as far as great characterization and support convos?  Mitama.  I thought she was a nothing character, but by the time she hit A with M-Corrin, I really liked her.  The study of haiku they do together was great.
[spoiler]"...Did he do all this just to get me to come outside more? Heh. The trickster prevails / But leaves his victim happy / For such are his charms. I think I like this man."[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 31, 2017, 12:19:04 AM
Anyway, no matter how you look at it, those 'I want to be them' female characters will always lose to the 'I want to be with them' male characters when it comes to polls.

I get the impression it's not so different for guys considering all the waifus curbstomping everyone in the voting gauntlets so far. But yeah, I guess that's why I'm interested in seeing the gender ratio of votes for some of the more recent games, because apparently Corrin F topped the female character rankings for Fates (of course Camilla was second...and Oboro was third, which I actually did not know or expect).

I kinda took it as the earlier games giving you so many male characters that many just end up bleeding into each other. Especially since male characters tend to end up as the filler units (hi Matthis, Rickard, Radd, Ceaser, Macellan, Dolph, Tomas, Boah, Atlas, Naoise, Alec, Arden, Luchar, Lucharba, Hannibal, Lombard, Asaello, Ilios, Alva, Dalsin, Fred, Barthe, Garret, Wade, Lowen, Harken, Geitz, Gilliam, Ulki, Muarim, Largo, Kyza, Gareth, Taruoneo, Giffica, Priam, Yarne, Laurent, Hisame, Percy, Shiro, among many others) who also must contend with more notable persons like Lords, Jagens/Oifeys, Starters (your Christmas Knights and so on), Utility Units (i.e. Thieves), and early game shitwreckers (i.e. Ogma, Quan, Finn, Rutger, Raven, Ross, Nolan, Haar, Donnel, Silas, etc).

FCorrin topped the rankings because she's a Fates female that was A) relevant (not that this was necessarily a good thing), B) not badly designed (at least not as badly as MCorrin was), C) was useful in a series of games hurting for useful units, and D) was treated well throughout the game (again, not that this was a good idea, due to running more bullshit powers than any other Lord in the series to date, and that includes the likes of Sigrud and Ike).

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Also I've personally been waiting to get a +DEF Oboro (and probably either -HP or -RES) before I invest into her. I think she's probably best doing the whole physical tank thing like she does in her home game, so I'd go for a Killer weapon (Slaying Lance doesn't exist yet, but probably will soon) + Bonfire/Ignis build. It sucks when a character comes with a crappy weapon...have to kill another 5* if you want her to be fighting things outside of Zephiel. But if you end up feeding her a weapon from another 5*, you could always just go for a 4*+10 Oboro since you wouldn't need the stupid Heavy Lance+ from promoting.

Unfortunately, Oboro would rather have +Atk because all the Def in the world doesn't matter if you can't damage anybody (its why Beruka, Draug and Gwendolyn suck so badly). Also, she's kinda almost completely outclassed by Ephraim (she beats him in Spd by 1, Def by 3 and Res by 2, but Siegmund is so much better than Heavy Spear+ its ridiculous and Moonbow just makes the comparison unfair). At least she's a good source of Rally Def and Seal Def.

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I wound up busting up Infernal Valter after all, as despite my previous statement, I had to burn some SI Fodder anyways. I've since been farming Orbs in my hopeless quest for Summer Corrin, made continuously more hopeless with nearly every pull (as the last four pulls have netted me a 5 star Nowi, a 4 star Seliph, a 5 star Lilina (neutral traits) and a 4 star Eirika, along with some other decent fodder like a 4 star Gunter and a second 4 star Jakob (except for the Lilina pull as that was my first pick of the litter and I said, "Screw this" and saved my remaining 15 Orbs for the pull; the rest were either Green or Colorless anyways). On the upside to this, with my Eirika pull, I think I've finally netted my first CYL pick (of the twelve I made; with only one repeat between them). Still need to get my hands on Sonya, Olwen and vanilla Lyn for the available ones.

I personally found Valter to be the hardest GHB so far, a real far cry from the re-run of Narcian that began today who I prompted beat on Infernal easily. Really shows how they're getting more and more ridiculous with how hard they're trying to make these fights. To be fair that might be because I lack any good offensive archers. I still haven't pulled a new Klein and the two 5* Archers I have wouldn't cut it. Takumi's a defensive archer and Jeorge is...well, just not that good with his default weapon. I ended up using a +ATK Gordin I promoted to 4*. He was pretty useful in taking care of the flierspam the map throws at you.

I didn't have too much trouble with Valter outside of Infernal and even Infernal just required figuring out how to solve the puzzle. Unfortunately, these GHeB 'puzzles' are requiring more and more specific builds and/or units to complete (beyond all the annoying Red units, the main reason why I used Delthea was due to her massive SP stockpile allowing her to basically inherit whatever I want, which let her fill in whichever gap I needed filling to creatively 'solve' the puzzle). The rest of my team consisted of Olivia (4 star, Level 39, Neutral, Ruby Sword SI), Xander (5 star, Neutral, Bowbreaker 2 SI) and Klein (5 star, +Res/-HP).


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Also my condolences on pulling that Lilina. I want one myself but mostly to fill the FEH Pokedex, wouldn't want her to kill my pity rate. IMO she's been outclassed in pretty much every way since Sanaki exists and Celica showed up. She's slow, but still has too many points "wasted" in speed so she can't do TA Raven as well as Sophia. She has a monster ATK stat but no legendary weapon renders it kinda pointless. Wish they'd given her Forblaze since I'm guessing half the players of FE6 gave it to her on their first playthrough, but I'm sure they'll be saving that for some special event Lilina down the road when they remake Elibe.

And yeah, I wanted Lilina for a while now, but not like this.

And of course, I pulled for Summer Corrin and got nothing but Red, Green and Colorless (my game seems to be allergic to Blue units). This is also my last pull for the banner as I lost my multiplier yet again on yet another Summer Elise (at least she's +Atk/-HP, so I'll just feed her my previous S!Elise for shenanigans; although that one's +Spd/-Def; goddammit, they're both amazing; why couldn't she be on wyvernback and sporting a Blue Tome instead?). Also pulled a 4 star Cain, Draug and Merric along with a 3 star Clarine, so I got to walk away with some good SI fodder. But still, my hopeless quest for a better than decent Flier Emblem team continues.

Also, in the last six pulls, I managed to pick up four 5 star units (but only one focus character twice), and three new 4 stars. There goes all my Orbs and luck for CYL. Thank god for that freebie (though poor Brave Lyn is going to have such terrible Traits, my head will spin).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on August 31, 2017, 04:48:20 AM
Unfortunately, Oboro would rather have +Atk because all the Def in the world doesn't matter if you can't damage anybody (its why Beruka, Draug and Gwendolyn suck so badly). Also, she's kinda almost completely outclassed by Ephraim (she beats him in Spd by 1, Def by 3 and Res by 2, but Siegmund is so much better than Heavy Spear+ its ridiculous and Moonbow just makes the comparison unfair). At least she's a good source of Rally Def and Seal Def.

You should see some of the crazy things people do with Beruka (or similar DEFspam units like Seliph). It's a niche and inefficient way to play, but there's something satisfying about taking 2-point damage hits over and over to charge up an Ignis that does like 40+ damage in one hit. Also I hear Draug's actually really good on an offensive armor team, but it takes a ton of investment to work, and at that point you could probably make any unit work.

So the Voting Gauntlet's started and I chose to back our boy Roy. It looks like he's going to get curbstomped by Ike, but if nothing else I should be able to rack up some multipliers. In a surprise twist Ike has more votes than Lyn does early on so there might be a real competition for the final round this time.

That being said, time to pull for CYL! Apparently these Heroes will actually stay around even after the event like normal heroes, so if you feel like aiming for Hector instead you could just do that. Doubt anybody would though since getting multiples of these 4 wouldn't really be a bad thing.

Off to an okay start with no colorless orbs showing up.

4* Effie: I'm getting so many Effies I might just start giving Wary Fighter away...or I mean I would if there were any armors worth giving it to. Still, nice to have a bunch of her when they release more armors. I'm totally waiting for Arvis to make it into the game and be a mage armor.
4* Boey: New unit, but +HP. Some pretty nice skills though, Earth Boost might have some niche use and Renewal is always nice.
4* Seth: New unit obviously. -ATK unfortunately, but they decided to make Fortress Def 3 his 4* skill so that might be nice to give someone (kinda tempted to give it to an Azama just to create an incredibly annoying unit who Pain-chips people to death).
4* Lon'qu: Can't complain about a free vantage.
4* Mae: -ATK +SPD just like the last one I got.

4* Fae: +DEF -RES which probably isn't that great since her main function is to tank magic hits, but at least it's better than the -ATK one I had earlier I suppose.
5* Chrom: Wrong Lord game. And of course he's -HP +SPD on like one of the few units that actually can't make any use out of that set. Almost tempted to just kill him for Aether to boost some other unit's Arena score.
3* Palla: Bad boon/bane so SI fodder it is.

Accidentally backed out of the summoning screen at this point, but oh well, might as well start building the pity rate again.

4* Felicia: -HP +RES, which is pretty nice to have on her I guess. Might as well always keep a decent Felicia around since I recall them making some quest involving her a while back.
5* CYL Ike: Hurrah. -ATK +SPD unfortunately, probably one of the worst sets I could get since his skill basically negates his need to avoid getting doubled. Wouldn't have minded if he gotten a bane on HP or RES, but it just had to be ATK. Still, he'll probably be a good unit and I'm still short on axes even after promoting that Raven.
3* Palla: Bad set again, more Moonbow fodder.
3* Eliwood: -ATK of course. Some day I'll actually get a 3* unit with a decent set.
5* CYL Lucina: Think I've used up all my luck for this banner already. Once again I got a mediocre set though, with +HP -ATK on her. Probably not as bad as the set on got on Ike since she's a mixed support/fighter unit so the extra HP might be nice. And hey, I avoided -SPD.

3* Virion: A frog to balance those Sullies I got from Nohrian Scummer, I see.
4* Camilla: Savage Blow will be nice for...something, I guess.
4* Cordelia: Hurray for...Triangle Adept?
3* Corrin: Still waiting on that decent set on a 3* unit.
3* Olivia: So here's where all those 3* were hiding on that first pull.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on August 31, 2017, 05:58:33 AM
So the Voting Gauntlet's started and I chose to back our boy Roy. It looks like he's going to get curbstomped by Ike, but if nothing else I should be able to rack up some multipliers. In a surprise twist Ike has more votes than Lyn does early on so there might be a real competition for the final round this time.

Fuck!

Backing Lyn either way though I just barely fucked up catching her multiplier. This is not going to be a good VG.


Edit: Apparently, that cookie clicker game that they were talking about during the previous Feh Channel was datamined and revealed that Tellus is next in line for some love with Nephenee and the Black Knight on the way. Damn. I had hoped they would've spent the next two T_Ts on Magvel instead since I have both Lords and wouldn't need to care about needing to pull multiplier units (on the other hand, I've got units for both Tellus games right now, so it isn't the end of the world if one of them becomes a 1.4x multiplier unit).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on August 31, 2017, 02:29:54 PM
- Supporting Lucina because she's the one character I have and don't hate. Well, I guess I could have used Chrom or Roy, but they're like L25 and I don't feel like training them. Besides, they'll slowly lose to Hector and Ike anyway. Probably.

-Tried to snipe an Ike, but the game refused to give me plenty of greens and I had to pull blue and it was a +spd, -atk Linde. I guess that's better than the -spd, +res one I have now? Another blue orb netted me an Abel. Didn't have him yet, so that's nice. Green orbs only gave me crap. Well, okay, +spd Nino isn't crap, but like 50% of my Nino's are +spd and I already have one at 5* L40.

Edit: another attempt to get Ike. Only pulling greens.

1. Just one green and it's... Cherche.

2. Just one green (and four orbs worth of colourless hell)... Camilla.

3. Just one green... Another Camilla?!

Do you know how many 4* greens I don't have yet? Boey, Raven, Soren, Titania... Heck, even Merric or Hawkeye would have been more welcome than this. Camilla isn't even good skill fodder!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on August 31, 2017, 06:04:36 PM
So what did I get for my free Brave Heroes pull?

Nowi.

This is my first time encountering her. NOOOWW I see what all the fuss is about. Dear lord.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on August 31, 2017, 06:19:33 PM
I chose Ike for my free CYL pull, and snagged a Hector from the Top 4 Male banner so I could give CYL Ike Distant Counter to truly neutralize Brave weapon characters like Rein and Bridelia.

On my second full pull to raise my pity rate, I managed to pull CYL Lyn, which is all I really wanted out of this banner. Now, I could try and pull for CYL Lucina or save for the next banner.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 01, 2017, 07:01:29 AM
How do you do that? My pulls look like this ;_;

Round 1: Looking for green!

Orbs: no green, one blue, whatever. Hi 3* Oboro. If your stats had been better, I'd have made you a 5* in no time, but since you're -atk... Sorry... :(

Round 2: Still looking for green!

Orbs: No green. Here's a 3* -atk Robin. He delivers disappointment. Yay!

Round 3: I just one some green, please...

Orbs: Here's one green orb! And it's a 3* Cecilia that is also -atk!

Oh well. There's still two weeks left. I currently have 12 quest orbs waiting for me to be collected, I should be able to get 8 orbs from the Arena, then there's 18 free daily orbs, 2 weekend orbs, and some other orbs I'm probably forgetting.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 01, 2017, 09:18:25 AM
Time to raid those monthly quest and then spend the rest of the month complaining! I'll just be pulling whatever to increase the pity rate. Don't expect I'll get lucky again but if I do I'll actually have collected them all for once. That'll probably leave me in a bad place for the upcoming Tellius love, since I doubt CYL Ike will be a bonus unit. At least I have Titania though.

3* Stahl: Probably the worst red pull. Doesn't even have skills worth inheriting outside of a few select characters wanting Ruby Sword.
3* Matthew: -HP +SPD, might actually level this guy up.
4* Seliph: -SPD +ATK, which for once might actually be a good set since his speed is terrible anyway. Dunno if I should train this one or the -HP +DEF one I have.
4* Virion: Summoning cloud teasing me. Would've been nice to get one of the halfway decent archers.
4* Odin: Moonbow man makes his appearance again. Think I'm actually running out of people who want it at this point.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on September 01, 2017, 02:37:03 PM
How do you do that? My pulls look like this ;_;

Round 1: Looking for green!

Orbs: no green, one blue, whatever. Hi 3* Oboro. If your stats had been better, I'd have made you a 5* in no time, but since you're -atk... Sorry... :(

Round 2: Still looking for green!

Orbs: No green. Here's a 3* -atk Robin. He delivers disappointment. Yay!

Round 3: I just one some green, please...

Orbs: Here's one green orb! And it's a 3* Cecilia that is also -atk!

Oh well. There's still two weeks left. I currently have 12 quest orbs waiting for me to be collected, I should be able to get 8 orbs from the Arena, then there's 18 free daily orbs, 2 weekend orbs, and some other orbs I'm probably forgetting.

Your relationship with this game is starting to remind me of that sweet girl we all knew who kept taking her abusive boyfriend back over and over, insisting that "he's sorry" and "he won't do it again" until eventually she's dead.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 01, 2017, 02:57:29 PM
Hey now, FEH can be super sweet! I mean, just recently he gave me this +spd Linde. And sure, she's -atk, but the one Linde I already had was actually slightly worse, so it's fine. And that ever growing collection of Cherches? FEH is just trying to get me the perfect one. He's having some trouble, bu it's the thought that counts. Besides, there's only a 25,42% chance of me getting a new green unit, so it's not that bad.

Besides, it's my own fault I don't get what I really want. I shouldn't have asked for a Leo despite knowing that -blade units on horses are gamebreakers just waiting to get nerfed. FEH did the right thing by not giving me one, really.

See, it's a totally healthy relationship!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 01, 2017, 07:55:10 PM
My efforts to circumvent the free pull until the last possible moment ("screw freebie's, I have diversity!") have so far yielded two Wryses (only one being 4 star) and some other trash 3 stars. Meanwhile my efforts to at least make a half-hearted effort on the VG banners have ended with a 4 star Effie for the girls, a 4 star Mathilda for the boys, and more trash. That said, at last! One of the good Armors (aside from Zephiel)! And it only took me 6 months to pull (now I just need a spare 4 star Gwendolyn to inherit her Hone Armor buff from)!

At least I'm filling out my uncommons list with all this luck I've been having.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 02, 2017, 11:05:59 AM
Roy was short an hour or two of getting a final multiplier, otherwise he might've actually turned things around. Too bad. I hopped in with Camilla. Know she's going to lose, but I might as well go for a high score, and Camilla's the only one I have. For the record Tomara, don't let unleveled units deter you- in fact it's actually better, because if you run a level 1 unit all your opponents will be low level and if you have a friend on the same team you'll get their level 40 unit and win every time even with stupid people giving you a team of 3 Roys (seriously, it's way worse this time for some reason). Only real downside is that I think you get less Hero Merit when you win.

Did a bunch of quests and got 20 orbs. Lyn and Roy were the units I wanted the most out of this banner, so I seem to be keeping up my streak of not getting the units I actually want.

4* Tharja: Second one I have, with a -SPD bane of course. Still, nice to have another one for whenever I happen to pull a red mage that wants to inherit the Blade tome.
5* Ike: I'm pretty sure I didn't pull from your banner Ike. Well, at least he's one of the best Reds around, and now I know who I'm backing for the final round. Unfortunately he's -ATK +RES because of course he is. Probably the worst possible set on him since he's supposed to be a beefy ATK guy with terrible RES. Would've even taken the -SPD this time. Almost tempted to sacrifice him for Heavy Blade if anybody else ever wants it.
4* Abel: Swordbreaker and Fury are the two skills I need the most of so Abel is always welcome.
4* Corrin: You again..I think like 70% of my regular units run Hone Attack 3 at this point. It's crazy I'm wishing I'd pull more Matthews  than Corrin because he can at least diversify my squad to run more Hone Speeds.
4* Leon: New unit, and he's -HP +ATK which I think is one of the nicest sets on him...how about appearing on one of my 5* next time? Oh wait, I forgot, I got that -HP +SPD 5* Chrom earlier. A real speedster, that one.

Gaaaaah I know I really shouldn't be complaining because I'm having crazy good luck with pulling actually good units compared to the rest of you (and all the 4*s I pulled this time were good too), but I swear my FEH account is secretly stored in a monkey paw with polydactyly or something.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 03, 2017, 01:10:51 AM
I keep missing VG multipliers this time around. At least this time, my reason isn't so much a fuckup so much as prioritizing making money with my time instead (not that I should've been working today to begin with or that I wasn't getting set up to fail by my employers).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 03, 2017, 04:40:02 AM
Roy was short an hour or two of getting a final multiplier, otherwise he might've actually turned things around. Too bad. I hopped in with Camilla. Know she's going to lose, but I might as well go for a high score, and Camilla's the only one I have. For the record Tomara, don't let unleveled units deter you- in fact it's actually better, because if you run a level 1 unit all your opponents will be low level and if you have a friend on the same team you'll get their level 40 unit and win every time even with stupid people giving you a team of 3 Roys (seriously, it's way worse this time for some reason). Only real downside is that I think you get less Hero Merit when you win.

My match-ups have been pretty bad when using lower level units. I prefer to sticking to my own good units and whatever my friends send over. I deleted all the dumb ones ages ago, so it's rare to see two identital units.

As for voting gauntlet stuff in general: I'm just siding with my favourites this time. Ike might win or he might not and whatever guy wins will most likely lose against breasts, but atleast I tried not being part of the problem. So... how the Tits on Stilts versus Boobs in Seatbelt match going?

Anyway, I have plenty of orbs again, so it's time for Is Ike here? - episode 4.

Round 1: no greens, let's go with blue.

4* Mathilda - Actually, this is fine. New character and not a 5* I didn't want, yay!

Round 2: one green, a 25% chance of a new character!

3* Cecilia - That's not how you spell 'Soren'... Also, why is she -atk?

Round 3: two green, we're getting somewhere!

3* Barst - Guess his bane! That's right, -atk, what a surprise! Fortunately, Barst only exists to pass on reposition.

4* Titania - Yay! Finally a Tellius unit! And she's not -atk! o_o
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 03, 2017, 07:41:13 AM
Right now Lyn just overtook Camilla again- Camilla was in the lead for a few hours after a bonus earlier. If Team Lyn isn't careful I think it's very much possible for them to trigger another bonus before the end and if that happens, I don't think there'd be enough time for them to retake the lead again. The salt from Lyn losing to Camilla would be pretty amazing.

I keep missing VG multipliers this time around. At least this time, my reason isn't so much a fuckup so much as prioritizing making money with my time instead (not that I should've been working today to begin with or that I wasn't getting set up to fail by my employers).

Hey, for some people making money and progressing in FEH is synonymous. Ahem.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on September 03, 2017, 12:39:24 PM
I'm still surprised that Lucina lost to Lyn. I imagine the salty Lucina fans are on Camilla's team now.

I'm backing Ike, and he seems to like me. Within two full pulls from the CYL banner, I got another two CYL Ikes. I think I'm good now lol
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 03, 2017, 01:54:37 PM
That's... that's just not fair :(

I do have some good news though: I'm pretty happy with how my Flyer Emblem team is turning out. Cherche with a Brave Axe+ is a lot of fun, and I haven't even given her a very good skillset yet. Spring Camilla is great at killing anything blue and colourless thanks to Gronnraven and Triangle Adept. Summer Corrin isn't doing so bad either. She'll be better with a blade tome, but for now she's great as a support and red-unit killer. Palla is mostly there as support, but she does get a chance to shine when green units like Hector pop up.

So yay, not everything is terrible! :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 04, 2017, 12:34:18 AM
So yay, not everything is terrible! :D

Actually, it is. As Lyn just got Blue Turtle Shelled by Camilla.

It's the Brawl Dojo Reveal all over again. This is the first and last time I'm picking solely on favoritism instead of going on the CYL numbers. Fortunately everything else about this VG was awful as well so nothing tremendously valuable was lost. And while I have a Camilla to field for the points, Ike is basically assured victory now as Mario Kart Strats only works once per VG.

Goddammit, Sakurai was right all along when he picked Ike over Lyn as a Smash Bros regular while casting her into the Assist Trophy Abyss.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 04, 2017, 07:01:07 AM
truly the darkest timeline

(https://i.imgur.com/cDojKHN.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 04, 2017, 07:14:10 AM
I've got a lot of melon-crushing flags saved up, but knowing one stray multiplier could ruin everything...

Let's positive thinking and do something else.

First up, a free pull. Ephraim would be nice and I get... 3* Odin. I have spares, so I'll guess I'll give Summer Corrin a basic Blade tome to free up some space for more interesting things. You go have fun with those hones and spurs, Cor.

And now it's time for a brand new episode of "Is Ike here?"

Round 1:
3* Barst - Everything is terrible...

Round 2:
4* Sheena - Well, could be worse, I guess. Let's see those stats... +atk, - def. Worse than my current one (+atk, - spd). Oh well. Atleast one of the other armours will be happy.

Thta's all for now. I want to save up a few more orbs for the next pull in case there are like three greens in one pull. No wait, I'll save up for four, just to be safe.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 04, 2017, 07:47:37 AM
I wouldn't have minded Ephraim either, but I got no blue orbs on my free pull so I ended up getting a 4* Sheena. -HP +DEF versus the +ATK -SPD one I have. I think the only set that would be worth taking over the one I already have is probably +DEF -SPD since the only way she does any real damage is via Bonfire.

I almost always save up 20 before I pull, because as far as I know your pity rate applies to the entire board, so if you pull a 5*, it's worth taking a shot at the rest of them. Unless it's your first pull obviously. Not sure if I should make an attempt at Hector before the Voting Gauntlet ends, but I probably won't since I'll have more time to build a pity rate on the CYL banner.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 04, 2017, 09:23:13 AM
truly the darkest timeline

(https://i.imgur.com/cDojKHN.jpg)

It wasn't even Team Camilla that won the thing but the idiots on Team Lyn that lost on purpose. By cutting back the way they did, their vain attempt to subvert the multiplier gave Camilla total control over the whole thing, as all Camilla needed to do then was cutback themselves near the end, thus inevitably triggering the multiplier at the time of their choosing no matter how slowly Lyn took it.


If there weren't four Orbs up for grabs in the quests, I wouldn't even bother with the rest of this trainwreck (I'm too used to getting screwed over by Whales in the Arena and Arena Assault to give that much of a fuck about Feathers). Its even worse this time since Team Camilla got a high percentage of Lyn refugees and I've got no Army Contribution score to look forward to. I'm probably going to wait until the outcome is a foregone conclusion then bandwagon for the free 500 Feathers and the Orbs since I'm not getting much else either way.

But they truly need to revamp or scrap this mode as I've hated this current multiplier mechanic ever since it was introduced during the Elise vs. Sakura fight where the outcome was decided purely by the fact that nobody yet knew how to properly wield the Mario Kart Strats, and now my hate has turned to disgust as the Meta has truly learned how to wield the bloody thing and has robbed what little fun there might have been of this crap (I appreciated the original multiplier as that took the mode up from needing to spend 6 days constantly glued to your device to get a good score out of it to only being around for the multipliers, but increasing the effect of the multiplier to such devastating level wasn't the way to go from there, especially since multipliers are kinda random after the first and maybe second waves).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 05, 2017, 05:29:19 AM
Maybe there were a lot of Europeans in Lyn's army? We generally miss the final 4+ hours because, you know, sleep and all that.

Anyway, there's a new banner and it has Hector and Ninian. Which is great. I want them. I'll go for only a free pull unless I get like nothing but blues and greens.

And... Three greens, two blues! Okay, that's worth it!

3* Beruka - No.
3* Cherche - Are you better than what I currently have? No, you are -atk. You are terrible.
4* Raven - Finally, a new green! And... he's -atk.
3* Florina - Whatever.
4* Oboro - Why are you -atk?!

Now I'm sad...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 05, 2017, 06:53:32 AM
Maybe there were a lot of Europeans in Lyn's army? We generally miss the final 4+ hours because, you know, sleep and all that.

Anyway, there's a new banner and it has Hector and Ninian. Which is great. I want them. I'll go for only a free pull unless I get like nothing but blues and greens.

And... Three greens, two blues! Okay, that's worth it!

3* Beruka - No.
3* Cherche - Are you better than what I currently have? No, you are -atk. You are terrible.
4* Raven - Finally, a new green! And... he's -atk.
3* Florina - Whatever.
4* Oboro - Why are you -atk?!

Now I'm sad...

Nah. The far more likely scenario probably involved Lyn's team being made up of mouth breathing idiots.

Team Lyn Moron #1: "Hey guys, we've got the bigger team and are assured to win on size alone, but Team Camilla might just get a late multiplier which could upset things. What do we do?"
Team Lyn Retard #2: "HIT DA BRAKES!!!" (http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-downsbravo.gif)
Team Camilla Whale: "Guys! They're slowing down. Reduce speed to match."
Team Lyn Moron #1: "The gap isn't getting bigger. We've made it!"
Team Camilla Whale: *Several hours later and within the last three hours* "NOW! Hit the brakes!"
Team Lyn Retard #2: (http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-derp.gif)
Team Camilla Whale: (http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/emot-byewhore.gif)


The only reason why I couldn't dump all of my Flags to help avert this situation was because I spent half of this weekend getting my ass handed to me by work. By the time I was rested enough on Sunday to do anything, it was already too late.

Not that I should've been the one to do it, because seriously. All Team Lyn needed to do was put on the gas to trip that last multiplier early and spend the rest of their time rallying and recovering.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 05, 2017, 10:25:26 AM
I'm actually not sure that teams slow down or speed up in response to this sort of thing, because it's basically impossible to organize any sort of effort with this many players, even if there wasn't a language barrier involved. Only way it would be possible is if they made some kind of official forum for the game. There have been some speed changes based on time of day though, for example Camilla goes up a lot faster during Japan's daytime because she's more popular there, and the opposite is true for Ike.

Although one thing I do think happened is that for some reason some people on Team Lyn burned flags when Camilla was going through her multiplier, which insured that Team Lyn wouldn't be able to get a revenge multiplier back on Camilla (they were off by like 0.5% or something).

Also I would really love to roll on the FE7 banner since I've wanted both Ninian and Hector for a while now, but I put 20 orbs into CYL banner before the reset today and now I'm stuck with the feeling I'd be wasting that tiny pity rate I built (that 0.25% makes all the difference!). Also I'm all out of orbs and there's only like 3 orbs left to plunder from the monthly quests for me. I took my free pull and got a 3* Shanna (because it gave me no greens of course). My CYL pulls were:

4* Palla: At least she's 4*s this time.
3* Matthew: Hone Speed, I guess...
3* Setsuna: I guess Bowbreaker is going to be kinda important since CYL Lyn was everywhere in Arena Assault and it's only going to get worse.
4* Bartre: Fury 2 is nice enough. There's a lot of worse Greens to pull (like Merric or Arthur) so I've always wondered why he's so representative of dud pulls for people.
4* Peri: Always good to sate the bloodlust by sacrificing her for Threaten Def.

I finished my Arena Assault run for the week after a few tries. Like I said CYL Lyn is goddamn everywhere so if you have a Robin M all SI'd up he might actually have some use again. Nobody's crazy enough to run Cancel Affinity on her.

Playing around with CYL Ike a bit, I think it's a real tossup if he has more overpowered skills or Lyn does. Beorc's Blessing was the skill everyone focused on early on, but Steady Breath might be even better- it allows him to fight certain Reds effectively...and it can be inherited. Ike probably runs it best though because his base skillset has really good synergy. He takes less damage from followups thanks to his weapon, Beorc's Blessing laughs at flying and cavalry buffs, and Steady Breath makes it so that if you're engaging in him in melee, Aether charges up very quickly and he retaliates for a ton of damage. Because of this I think Ike is one of the few characters where Distant Counter would actually be a waste to put on. Not that DC isn't good for him, but if I had a bunch of Hectors just lying around I'd instead give it to units that need it to be able to even function as opposed to CYL Ike who has an amazing base A slot anyway.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 06, 2017, 01:18:26 AM
Welp. Ike won that garbage fire of a VG, to what I would've said was no one's surprise, but that Camilla upset threw more doubt and shade on the wholly rotten affair than there needed to be.

Either way, I got reamed on Feathers this time due to picking a favorite over going with the hard numbers and having fuck all for free time this go around (I couldn't even manage to burn all of my flags, I had 310 left by the last opportunity because I kept ending up in various 4G Twilight Zones due to all of my trips to the corner of Godforsaken Nowhere & Land That Time Forgot). Hopefully this will get the idiots over at Serenes Forest to shut the fuck up about mammaries being a prerequisite for VG victoly, because its not like having female characters that can have lead roles and/or not dress in ridiculous attire like a bikini and capes or bikini armor like most JRPGs isn't one of the draws of the series or anything (I mean, Smash has only really given Lucina a roster slot despite the many other potential female characters and she's basically a Marth Clone, whereas Marth, Roy, Ike, Robin and Corrin are all male representatives, despite the latter two having female variants that could've alternated with each other, with fairly distinct (now for Roy) movesets, while Lyn got relegated to the Assisted Living Trophy).

Mouthbreather Edit: Oh lord, now there's Doxxing involved. Lyn fans truly are the worst. The whole VG mode really needs to die in a fire already. It was too time consuming to begin with, the randomness has only exacerbated the time consumption, and we really need to go on a low sodium diet.


And in less salty news, I finally got enough time together to clean out Narcian's RereGHeB. All I needed was to have Eliwood complete his collection of Mounted Emblem buffs by eating a 4 star Gunter.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 06, 2017, 02:56:18 AM
I was a little afraid Camilla would pull herself up by the boobstrap with the help of a stray multiplier again, so it's good to see Ike won in the end. I didn't rank so great this time around, but then again, I also didn't have all that much time to play.

In other news, new update! Which means the shipping simulator is here! Who are you going to make your husbando/waifu/platonic life partner? And what sorts of horrible couples are you going to create?

Me, I'm glad I'm finally able to officially ship Klein and Olivia. They're just so sweet and deadly together.

Xander and Cecilia is probably a good combo too, considering they're the backbone of my horse emblem team.

... This is pretty difficult. I want couples that make sense from a gameplay perspective but aren't batshit insane/cringy when it comes to the characters themselves. Like... who can I pair up with Elise without making things awkward for everyone?

(Oh, and just to be clear, when I finally get a Takumi and Leo, they're also finally getting that S rank, damnit!)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 06, 2017, 06:36:36 AM
I'm tempted to pair Florina with my Bridal Lyn (since I lack vanilla and CYL Lyns at the moment), but unfortunately, I'd rather not do that to either character. Maybe I could pair Cordelia with Bridal Cordelia for the lulz.

Either way, I'm probably gonna start by taking Cecilia as the Summoner's Waifu since she's one of the best units in the game still (and I still lack my waifu's of preference).

Also, my love for the fact that the upcomming Mini-T_T has Eliwood as a 40% unit holds no bounds (although getting a Lyn, Hector or Ninian would make it hella easier to raise versus my already flush with HM, SP and SI 5 star Level 40 Eliwood).

My free pull for the Threaten Def banner only landed me yet another 4 star Sully. Didn't bother to waste any Orbs by further pulling from that banner as I already have everyone on that banner (the two who matter at 5 star, with one of them (Raven) being +1). Also because my draw was 3 reds, 1 blue and 1 colorless.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 06, 2017, 09:03:49 AM
I was actually planning on joining Team Lyn at first, but I merc'd in other groups since I didn't actually have her. Didn't do me too much good apparently because I ended up at rank ~1100 or so in the final round. People must've dumped a bunch of flags after the final multiplier because I was rank 200 or so when that finished. At least I finished above rank 1000 overall though, so I got a decent amount of feathers.

Personally I thought it was hilarious when Camilla beat Lyn even though I was actually rooting for her, although I suppose getting some extra feathers softened the blow (To be fair I was on Team Leo last time multiplier shenanigans happened and it was kinda funny there too, but not as much as seeing one of the most popular FE characters get crushed by booblady). Anyway yeah as an actual game mode the gauntlet is really not even that fun (and it's not even really an effective popularity contest anymore). Getting random matchups with the potential for people to send you troll units really makes it a lot worse. Although it can be kinda fun playing with the occasional crazy build you get sent. One guy on my friends list has a Raigh all SI'd up, 5* weapon included.

At any rate people take this shit way too seriously.

To be honest I've never been active in the FE fan scene so I'm actually still kinda surprised that Ike is so popular. If I'm not mistaken the Tellius games didn't do too hot and it was just a downward spiral from there to the Archanea remakes when Nintendo told IS they were going to cancel FE if Awakening didn't revive the series. Always had the impression that the Tellius crew was second only the Jugdral crew as ones only the long time fans really favored.

The new support system is...eh. It's alright, for me it's just a lot of menu flipping because I assume it's just generic animations for everyone. I know it's unrealistic to expect conversations since any pairing is possible, but I personally would've taken a really limited number of supports if it meant we could have a few conversations. I guess they'd rather leave that to the imagination of the fans though. I of course immediately supported Reinhardt because it gives more Attack, and Attack is Reinhardt's only stat. All joking aside I don't think I actually waifu/husbando anybody, the closest I can think of is Ninian and she belongs with Eliwood and no one else.

As far as Elise goes...hey, she's officially 18 in the Western translation! Anyway if you're limiting yourself to Horse Emblem, I guess you could pair her with CYL Roy if you ever get him, the guy can't even fit into his dad's clothes. Any Lilinas you pull would not be pleased though. Clarine could teach Elise how to be a proper lady and all that but since they're both staffbots they'd also be teaching each other how to suck in battle.

For the upcoming mini-TT, aside from Eliwood (who I almost have capped anyway) all the other 40% units are super rare so few people have them, so it might be a good chance to get tons of HM and SP on the 20% units instead since a ton of people should have all of them and their stat bonuses aren't any lower. Lloyd might be kind of annoying to use at 4* since he kinda sucks without Regal Blade though. Would've made sense for Nino and Jaffar to be there too, but I guess they ran out of space and you need to have Masked Marth there (who seems to be the viewpoint character for TT's "story") and one of the Askr units there for any new players.

Speaking of Askr, there's a sprite including the gun for the summoner now, so now lots of people are wondering if we can ever use him/her in battle. I imagine if we ever did it'd probably be a colorless unit to round out the Askr trio.

Also I scrapped together 20 orbs thanks to the new Squad Assault (which was oddly easy, much more so than the second one). I'm out of monthly quests to plunder, but in the next few days we should also be getting 15 bonus orbs, 5 from a twitter campaign and 10 from that stupid web browser minigame they had for CYL. Apparently some people wrote scripts to just play the game over and over. Really hope IS doesn't get the impression that that means the browser game was a good idea.

3* Laslow: You're too sexy to be Roy.
4* Clarine: -SPD, yuck.
3* Florina: I'd hate to say this, but please start giving me Shannas again.
4* Sheena: I guess putting Svalinn Shield on my armors will have to do until I magically pull an Amelia or like 5 Hectors.
4* Soren: Whee, new unit. Guess it's appropriate I also pull Ike's true love after I got him. I'd be celebrating the -HP +ATK on him if Soren wasn't such a terrible unit requiring SI for basically every single slot.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 06, 2017, 09:47:14 AM

To be honest I've never been active in the FE fan scene so I'm actually still kinda surprised that Ike is so popular.

1. He's in Smash
2. He's not Camilla

That's plenty of good explainations for his victory.

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As far as Elise goes...hey, she's officially 18 in the Western translation! Anyway if you're limiting yourself to Horse Emblem, I guess you could pair her with CYL Roy if you ever get him, the guy can't even fit into his dad's clothes. Any Lilinas you pull would not be pleased though. Clarine could teach Elise how to be a proper lady and all that but since they're both staffbots they'd also be teaching each other how to suck in battle.

That problem is easily solved: Lilina can warm the bench together with regular Roy.

As for pairing Elise with another staffbot: in theory, this wouldn't be that bad of an idea if the other one both have Wrathful Staff and Hone Cavalry. ... Yeah, that's not going to happen.

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Apparently some people wrote scripts to just play the game over and over. Really hope IS doesn't get the impression that that means the browser game was a good idea.

I tried playing the game, but my phone was like: Screw this. After waiting for ten minutes for it to load, I gave up.

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4* Soren: Whee, new unit. Guess it's appropriate I also pull Ike's true love after I got him. I'd be celebrating the -HP +ATK on him if Soren wasn't such a terrible unit requiring SI for basically every single slot.

Hey, don't be mean to Soren! With some investment, he's basically Nino, and having another Nino is pretty great in all those modes that require multiple teams. There's nothing wrong with having an extra Reinhardt counter.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 06, 2017, 10:53:13 AM
You weren't missing much with the browser game- it was just a rock-paper-scissors game with the weapon triangle. "A watered down version of their watered down version of the Fire Emblem games" as I saw someone appropriately describe it.

And...eh, I guess I'm overly mean to Soren. The guy has a pretty nice stat spread but he's awkwardly sandwiched between Nino/Summer Elise (the hyper offensive Green Tomes) and Julia/OtherTitLady (the Res tanks). The fact that basically his entire base set needs to be replaced just makes it worse because he can't be a useful unit with a budget build. At least he's better than Boey and Merric...though Merric does have a unique tome if you really hate fliers.

Really I hate that there's so many units that are stuck needing to SI a bunch so they can be less effective versions of other units. Maybe it isn't a good idea in the long term but I hope they keep making personal skills like they did with the CYL units. At least then you could have fun building every unit to be unique, even if it ends up being overly specific.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 06, 2017, 12:26:05 PM
And...eh, I guess I'm overly mean to Soren. The guy has a pretty nice stat spread but he's awkwardly sandwiched between Nino/Summer Elise (the hyper offensive Green Tomes) and Julia/OtherTitLady (the Res tanks). The fact that basically his entire base set needs to be replaced just makes it worse because he can't be a useful unit with a budget build. At least he's better than Boey and Merric...though Merric does have a unique tome if you really hate fliers.

He's still a solution to a problem this game has with mages: there are only one or two good, easily obtainable options per colour. Characters like Julia, Summer Elise and so on are either limited editions or only available at 5*. Unless you're really lucky, you're unlikely to have enough mages to fill multiple teams with characters that aren't shit. And considering that you'll be swimming in fodder after playing the game for a few months, giving a character like Soren a decent skillset is not the big investment it seems to be. Plus, it looks like there's a Tellius T_T coming up and he's likely to be a bonus character. Meaning that, for two weeks, he will outclass other green mage options.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 06, 2017, 08:54:49 PM
That's more because there just aren't that many Mage units in general. Even Green Mages are outnumbered by Axes by over two to one and Colorless Mages are Staffbots who automatically suck in this game.

And yeah, the reason why Ike is popular starts and ends with Smash. The vast majority of Heroes' playerbase is Smash immigrants followed by Fates converts and Awakening fans. I keep hoping for a Judgral banner in the near future so that we can have a repeat flood of posts going "Who are these people again?", although they may be a little more receptive after the Reinhardt phenomenon.


And on the note of CYL draws, I pulled again to no Brave effect, but I did net myself an Athena and a Sakura, both thankfully at 4 stars (thus not murdering my pity rate) as well as the usual 3 star crap (no, 3 star Gunter isn't that good as it takes an additional 2k feathers to get to the gooey nougat center of Horse Emblem buffs, at least Arthur and Barst are good sources of Swap and Reposition).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 07, 2017, 06:25:38 AM
Thanks to Klein S-ranking his Olivia harem, I was able to complete the twincest trials quite easily.

And now... the spoils. Still looking for Ike.

Round 1: no greens. I'll take a blue.

5* Lucina - !!!

Let's see... +def and -hp. This Lancina perfectly acceptable considering my luck.

Not going to bother with the other orbs, seeing I already have the brave heroes they offer.

Round 2:

4* Cherche - Well, I had only three spares left, so... welcome?

4* Bartre - ...

Well, Ike is still not here, but this is much better than last time.

I'll also try to get Ephraim again from the new Ephraim banner. And... there's no blues. I'll take the green one. ... Oh, look, another 3* Reposition fodder. Could be worse.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 07, 2017, 06:50:14 AM
I used Mounted Emblem but the effect was the same (took me three tries to deduce the Infernal one, but then I probably should've started on Lunatic instead).

Also, fuck. Sonya ate my CYL pity rate. Not that I didn't want a Sonya, but not like this (I suppose +Res/-HP isn't too bad for Traits for her considering that she can Ploy bot if nothing else; of course her T_T is long in the rear view mirror). Looks like the freebie will most likely be Lyn after all. The rest was 3 star garbage and a 4 star Raigh. Fortunately, the other banners aren't lighting my fire (emblem) so to speak (a 40+1 Ephraim wouldn't hurt, but I highly doubt I could pull traits for him anyways as he's already +Atk/-HP), so its back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 07, 2017, 07:02:19 AM
[Bragging mode]It took me one try to complete infernal. It was beautiful. The arrows kept flying, the specials hitting and the AI failing. Klein had to reposition Olivia a couple of times, but in my mind that looked like some elegant ballet moves. All that was missing was classical music.

I've seen people do something similar with Bridelia and even Brave-Brave Lyn, but I think my version was much more romantic.

Edit: Oh yeah, I promoted my +atk Eliwood for shits and giggles. He's One-Punch Man on a horse now.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 07, 2017, 07:27:50 AM
Your Lancina is definitely better than mine (+HP -ATK). Including HP for boons and banes is really a mixed bag because it's the stat that hurts the least when you lose 3 of it, and sucks the most when you get a boon in it in exchange for any other, more useful stat. The nice thing is that Lancina is a support unit though, so no matter what you roll on her she's still really good.

The new trial was pretty easy, but I too took a few tries to beat Infernal, since Panic Plot isn't very nice to horse emblem. I don't think they thought through the assist skills on the enemy units too well because a bunch of turns the units in the top left corner just buffed each other and sent one unit at a time against me, which made it really easy to pick them off. If they had all bumrushed me I probably would've lost.

Nice to get a bunch of orbs, but I'm still not at 20. Tomorrow maybe. Until then I took my free pull of twincest banner and got a 4* Jagen, who I immediately fed to Xander. I'm still waiting to draw like 10 Hinatas for the units of mine that want Fury 3.

EDIT: Tempest is here, and I'm actually kinda surprised that it (as far as I can tell) gives the exact same number of rewards as normal, just all scrunched together closer. Would've thought they'd reduce the total number of rewards. They should do this more often! Quickened Pulse is up for those of you that missed it the first time, by the way, and it's pretty low on the list. You shouldn't miss it unless you just straight up don't play.

So I spent quite a few stamina potions banging my head against the final Lunatic Chain Challenge I haven't finished. Took a shitton of tries, but I finally figured it out. It really is a bullshit level because of all the turn limit sections, so you gotta play aggressive, but since there's a bunch of enemies with overlapping threat ranges, the easiest thing you can do is run a team with multiple Dancers and Reposition. The downside to finishing it all, of course, is that I can't get free orbs in between events now....until they release the next bullshit Chain Challenge, anyway.

Also dumped a few stamina potions into the Tempest to get a bunch of orbs. I was kinda disappointed by the boss of the Tempest personally. Masked Marth's dialogue made me think it would've been

[spoiler]Durban. An obscure character sure, but why did they tease us with the whole "Berserker" thing? I guess you could say Hector is his successor being that he took the Armads and all, but that story detail is arguably even more obscure. Kind of a wasted opportunity, IMO.[/spoiler]

Anyway time to pray pull.

3* Selena: I still need lots of Repositions so she's always welcome, even if Tomara's ruined her for me.
3* Tiki: Pulled like 15 of this lady but not her kid version yet.
4* Leon: He's got Ignis, so that might come in handy someday. Can't imagine Slaying Bow ever being useful since the only build anybody ever runs anymore is Brave Bow. And Lyn i guess.

And the game chooses now to give me 3 Greens and 1 Blue. Why can't I get this spread on a Hector banner?
3* Gaius: Nice reminder that colorless hell isn't just named for its useless staffbots.

2 Red, 2 Colorless. That's more like it.
4* Corrin M: -HP +ATK. Hm. I got one at 5* from way back, but he's SPD, so I guess I'll keep this guy around for now, in case I ever decide to waste feathers on yet another red sword.
5* Lyn: As in, normal Lyn. I seem to be good at pulling characters from the wrong banner, first Ike now her. -ATK +SPD. I see the game saw fit to give me an accurate RNG-screwed version of Lyn who plinks her weapon twice on everything. Still, I suppose I couldn't have chosen a better time to pull her. Guess I'll finish this whole pull.
4* Lissa: -HP +ATK, for when I get another Wrathful Staff and for some reason decide that Lissa is the one worthy of it.
3* Felicia: Well, at least she has Chilling Wind as opposed to Gaius's awesome skills like Defient Atk and Pass.
5* CYL Lucina: Hurray, I guess? Well shit, +SPD -RES. That's...actually really nice. Dunno if I should make a +1 or give Drive Speed to some random dope, but I'll probably go with the former.

Think I'll take the free Brave Lyn and leave the CYL banner be now. Would've loved a Roy, but it wasn't meant to be. I'd rather spend whatever orbs I get now on trying to get his potential mom and his potential other dad.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 08, 2017, 05:18:04 AM
I think I like this shorter version of the T_T. It's still a grind, but it's only for a week and you can get everything at 50000 points. Just feels better that way.

Also, so many easy to get orbs! :D

Here's another episode of "Is Ike here?"

Round 1:
4* Fae - Meh

Round 2:
3* Bartre - *barf*
4* Boey - This makes me happy. Not at happy as Soren, Ike or Hector would have made me, but this is pretty okay.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 08, 2017, 06:46:10 AM
The Tempest Trial's rewards are roughly the same as last time's, minus the stuff above 50k which consists of nothing but Orbs, Colorless Crystals and Feathers at 2.5k intervals (so we're missing out on 20 Orbs, 29000 Crystals, 5000 Feathers from a normal T_T).

On the one hand, one of my strongest teams has two bonus characters in it, on the other hand, once they go down, I'm stuck in scrubsville. At least I only need to run Lunatic 7 once more today before I start my Hard 5 autobattle grind.

Also, not just Quicken Pulse, but a Distant Def 1 Seal is up for grabs (the other is a vanilla Def +1 seal which presents its own potential uses). Plus I'm certain my Masked Marth would appreciate being +1.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 08, 2017, 07:28:23 AM
If I recall right, last Tempest gave us 42 orbs total, which is the same amount as the current one gives, so we're good as far as that goes at least (and let's be honest, the orbs are the only important prize :P).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on September 08, 2017, 06:30:19 PM
As someone who did not have the patience in the first T_T, this new one is appreciated since I can get 5* Masked Marth and Quickened Pulse easily.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 08, 2017, 08:16:07 PM
If I recall right, last Tempest gave us 42 orbs total, which is the same amount as the current one gives, so we're good as far as that goes at least (and let's be honest, the orbs are the only important prize :P).

Yeah, upon further review, there's a lot more Orbs interspersed at the lower levels than the vanilla T_T.

And on that note, while Lunatic 7 is probably the easiest to run yet, Autobattling Hard 5 is pretty bad this time around due to all the maps with convoluted layouts that enemies like to snipe over as well as that one map that you need to break down walls to get into and that other map that's horrible for mounts due to needing to circumvent a mountain range because they can't cross forests at the top. There's been more times than I care for where the AI will split up to pursue multiple targets, but then have one group converge on another group's prey because of the AI's tendency for Tora! Tora! Tora! leaving enemies floating around and sniping from convenient niches for about 6 or 7 turns.

Anyways, I'm currently at 9k right now and waiting for my Stamina to recharge.

In preparation for this T_T I went and promoted Lloyd and F!Robin to 5 star since Lloyd can easily level grind (assuming Eliwood doesn't killsteal all of his targets) while F!Robin and Sonya are hanging out with Summer Elise for grinding shenanigans. And since Masked Marth is a bonus character this time around, I've decided to keep my current 5 star copy and merge the mini T_T one to him/her instead. I may also start running Summer Robin alongside Sharena for SP grinding purposes (because getting 24 SP per KO is sick).

I also pulled CYL again for the hope of obtaining at least one Banner unit and ended up with another 4 star Eirika and a bunch of other 4 star scrubs (like Matthew, Serra and Jakob).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 09, 2017, 03:09:08 AM
Oh god...

I paired up Summer Corrin and Spring Camilla because I dislike both and they're working together a lot, but... The little animation they show when they train together and rank up? It looks like they're humping their wyverns.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 09, 2017, 04:56:40 PM
Oh god...

I paired up Summer Corrin and Spring Camilla because I dislike both and they're working together a lot, but... The little animation they show when they train together and rank up? It looks like they're humping their wyverns.

Meanwhile there's something off about pairing up Eliwood with Ursula (sorry Roy, but you're no half-dragon anymore). Also be prepared for a whole lot of Feh photobombing when getting your S-Ranks.

Anyways, up to 18k in t_t. I've decided to say 'screw it' to raising Lloyd (if he levels, then he levels, but given how awful the AI is and how hard it is for a low level Red Infantry to see action in the hands of an AI, he's kinda stuck; even Clive and Berkut grew more easily), and am now auto-battling Lunatic 5 and am beating it with a B or a C rank in survival (or even the occasional A rank provided I don't pull the Desert map as the AI loves to launch Eliwood neck deep into Blue country where he'll die uselessly; or just simply wastes my Cecilia). Went and pulled CYL again to no effect (at least my Pity Rate grows) and I'm beginning to run out of Orbs (it'll take awhile to rebuild my stock given that most available Orbs at this point are stashed away in the upper echelons of the t_t).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 10, 2017, 04:22:14 AM
I'm actually playing the game myself since it's not too bad to run through 5 stages especially if you run a bunch of bonus units and get inflated stats for yourself. I got Lyn up to level 30 in the Training Tower then got the rest of it in the Tempest. I also realized that my Lyn is actually +DEF rather than +SPD. Dunno how I made that mistake. That might be better or worse since I decided to give Lyn Brash Assault, so her being able to take a hit is nice. Funny that Lyn is one of the only units to actually get some use out of Brash Assault even though it was probably designed with tanky characters like Bartre or Chrom in mind.

Also I pulled from the FE7 banner and got myself a 4* Sheena and 3* Beruka. Wish I'd at least get more Barsts or a Cherche with a decent boon.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 10, 2017, 10:12:46 AM
Would you like one of my 20+ Cherches? I'm running out of units that want +3 attack or pivot.

In any case... Episode I dunno of 'Is Ike here?'!

Round 1:
4* Camilla - Just... no. I'm not even sure what I'm supposed to do with all these Camillas. Maybe my Clarisse wants to learn Savage Blow? That might be a good set-up for weird GHBs...

4* Titania - Right game, wrong unit. This one is +spd, but I think I'll keep my current one. +res makes her a good Reinhardt-counter.

Round 2:
3* Bartre - No... atleast give me Barst if you're going to be horrible to me!

Round 3:
3* Arthur - Urgh...
4* Beruka - Why?!

I guess I'll just pull one red for shits and giggles.
3* Sophia - That's terrible too.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 10, 2017, 12:22:41 PM
Since there's no other place to talk about it here, I'm going to derail the thread for a little bit to talk about the latest Cipher reveals.

The newest set in particular has me scratching my head at times due to their kinda lackluster coverage of Thracia 776. I mean the artist they got to do Eyvel did a pretty bad job of it due to overdesigning the character and also completely fudging the scene for the alternate card, meanwhile they wasted an SR card on Misha. I mean seriously? Misha? Were they also going to give an SR card to Miranda or Karin? Or are they planning to give one to Edda, Xavier, Glade or some other crack pick? And hell, she looks like she spent the summer on Valentia, nevermind the fact that she's can't become a Falcon Knight due to Thracia midquel status (they should've made her a Pegasus Rider instead). At least they didn't do too badly with Olwen's or Finn's cards. And of course the others of this set are generally fine because its either the 6th go around for Fates (out of the 10 sets so far) or Heroes both of which are pretty unfuckable at this point in time. Two more weeks of potential reveals to get me to scratch my head again.

Anyways, that's been my Cipher venting minute. I now return you to your regularly scheduled topic by mentioning a recent surplus of Sullys I've seem to have attracted (and my continued lack of luck in terms of seasonal banner pulls).

Edit: Got the 5 Orbs from the whatever which put me up to another pull and nabbed a CYL Roy (Hooray) with +Def/-Spd (not so hooray). Also pulled a second 4 star Effie, a 4 star Raven and Niles and a 3 star Oboro.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 11, 2017, 08:06:27 AM
On the bright side, you didn't get -ATK, which is the worst thing that could happen to the Heavy Blade effect.

Also I really don't know anything about Cipher other than that apparently it introduced two original Askr characters of its own. Do those tend to stay there, or does FEH have some hope of having an actual setting/story at some point?

I'm not even sure what I'm supposed to do with all these Camillas. Maybe my Clarisse wants to learn Savage Blow? That might be a good set-up for weird GHBs...

Staffbots can learn Savage Blow if you don't use them for Hone whatever like most people do. Might be a decent way for them to contribute when they're not healing on all those endurance test modes we keep getting.

I also pulled and got a 4* Cherche, 4* Clair, and 4* Camilla. Cherche had the right bane but not the right boon (+SPD -RES), and Clair's a decent enough pull since she can give Hit and Run to other fliers. Camilla's always annoying because she's like Robin and uses her cutscene to trick me into thinking I got something decent.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 11, 2017, 04:25:04 PM
Guys, guys! Guess where Ike is! He's here. And he's +atk, -hp!

Sadly, the red orbs in that session only gave me a 3* Hana and Selena. Decent skill fodder, but... I kinda want Roy now.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 11, 2017, 07:19:02 PM
Meanwhile I got a 4* Catria and Merric. Decided to merge my 3 4* Merrics since its not like he has any skills to give. I'm constantly needing to clean out my barracks after every summoning session... think I'll start saving orbs and maybe get some extra space when this event ends. Dunno if they'll successfully bait me with whatever is coming up though.

Also apparently the rank 1 score in Tempest right now is close to 200k. No idea why people go so ridiculously overboard with the Tempest. I guess you burn like 100 stamina potions and let the game play itself to get to that point, but it still seems annoying though.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 11, 2017, 11:48:38 PM
On the bright side, you didn't get -ATK, which is the worst thing that could happen to the Heavy Blade effect.

Also I really don't know anything about Cipher other than that apparently it introduced two original Askr characters of its own. Do those tend to stay there, or does FEH have some hope of having an actual setting/story at some point?

I'm not even sure what I'm supposed to do with all these Camillas. Maybe my Clarisse wants to learn Savage Blow? That might be a good set-up for weird GHBs...

Staffbots can learn Savage Blow if you don't use them for Hone whatever like most people do. Might be a decent way for them to contribute when they're not healing on all those endurance test modes we keep getting.

I also pulled and got a 4* Cherche, 4* Clair, and 4* Camilla. Cherche had the right bane but not the right boon (+SPD -RES), and Clair's a decent enough pull since she can give Hit and Run to other fliers. Camilla's always annoying because she's like Robin and uses her cutscene to trick me into thinking I got something decent.

Right now, Heroes still only has Kiran, Alfonse, Sharena, their Anna, Zacharias, Veronica, Bruno, Loki and Feh for characters. Of the six Cipher characters (i.e. Emma, Shade, Yuzu, Lando, Alice and Valjean (as if Eponine wasn't enough of a reference)), currently their only non-Cipher appearance was in Echoes as DLC (and only for the first four as the last two hadn't been created/introduced yet). Everything else about Cipher could be described as "New artwork for old/neglected characters." and "CCG game, not worth the time and money to get invested into, especially since its stranded in Japan.".


As for the Savage Blow possibilities, I went with giving some to Saizo and Female Corrin (D.Stone version) due to their AoE debuffs and Poison Strike for Saizo. No idea if giving Poison Strike and Savage Blow to a Pain Staff holding staffbot would be worth the effort (unfortunately, you can't give Wrathful Staff, Dazzling Staff and/or Poison Strike to a Pain sporting staffbot as that kind of build would be both utterly hilarious and also a complete dickmove, especially since you know the game would happily give that build to pretty much every generic Staffbot in every GHeB ever). Unfortunately, Clarisse is better off with Threaten Def instead.


As for His boy, The Roy (because 'El' in Spanish means 'The'), I figure that at least with +Def, he can actually take a hit while Mounted Embleming, but -Spd does mean fewer Galeforce procs, even with Mounted Emblem buffs (5 star Eliwood has roughly the same Spd as my Zodiac Brave Roy, but Eliwood gets most of his work done through Axe Breaker even with Hone Cav). Also, getting him means my own Horse Emblem efforts have done well this banner, since I won't even blink twice for freebie Lyn provided I don't pull anyone else from CYL Banner and I've been passing out Hone Calvarys to anybody who has the spare SP.

And on a sillier note: ♪Meet Eliwood!♪ ♪His Boy, The Roy!♪ ♪Daughter-in-law Lilian!♪ ♪Ninian, his wife!♪


As for t_t scores, I'm right now at 42500+ points.

Also congrats on your Toma's Ike, make sure to have some intrepid time-travelers pour him all over your grave so that you can help them complete a few sidequests.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 12, 2017, 02:00:26 AM
Hey. My name it is not a reference to Chrono Trigger. It is in fact the result of stupid kids being unable to pronounce my name probably and a joke about how I looked like a tomato whenever blood reached my face because my natural skin-colour was close to bedsheet white.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 12, 2017, 06:54:19 AM
Hurray for 10 free orbs. Two separate summoning sessions got me a 4* Nowi, 3* Odin, 4* Barst and 3* Bartre. Only 2 days left on the Mini Tempest and the banners so I'll probably get one more shot at it. Hector and Ninian both continue to evade me but at least I got some okay skill fodder I guess.

Also I'm at around 48k in the Tempest which puts me at rank ~15000. Feels like people are burning a lot more stamina potions this time around. Dunno if I should do that myself considering some of the score screenshots I've seen floating around. I'm actually kinda stuck on what I should spend my feathers on right now. I 5*'d my Nino a few days ago so I think I have a pretty good balance of the colors now. I guess my biggest gap is flier emblem but I don't really have any good candidates for promotion. Every Cherche and Palla I pull have the wrong stats.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 12, 2017, 07:17:33 PM
I'm past the 50k mark, currently at 51382 with rank of 12,851. A stamina potion today and using the multipliers tomorrow should get me up to the next bracket. After that, I'm going to coast and focus on picking up whatever Orbs I have left available to me.

I've already pulled CYL banner again for a 4 star Priscilla and some other stuff. Its going to suck to finally run out of Uncommons to collect until the next banner (not that I expect to do so prior to Halloween). I already have 116 unique units out of 168.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 13, 2017, 06:16:14 AM
A stamina potion today and using the multipliers tomorrow should get me up to the next bracket.

Wouldn't be so sure on that (or at least staying there), people love to burn stamina potions the last few hours of the Tempest if the last few times are anything to go by.

Last pull on the FE7 banner for me, let's see if I get lucky.

And I get no green orbs of course.

3* Shanna: I'm actually running low on Shannas to give out desperation so I'll take it.
5* Nowi: Well, I got a blue dragon, but it's not the right one. At least she had the decency to show up as -HP +SPD. I guess I should be happy I got a 5* at all on the 3.5%, but for me Nowi's kind of an underwhelming random to roll since she doesn't get some huge upgrade compared to her 4* version.
4* Chrom: Wish he learned Aether at 4*, at least then I could inflate my arena scores.
3* Tiki: Can't I at least get a Hinata?
4* Tiki: Lots of dragons this time, just not the one I want.

Still going strong on not rolling the characters I want. I guess I should count my blessings that I got a decent haul on the CYL banner though. Plus Free Lyn!

Speaking of Lyn, Arena Assault has become really awful this week. She's all over the place and she's almost always paired with a QP Moonbow Reinhardt (plus probably someone with WoM just to screw you further). Nino, Summer Elise and Soren all get ORKO'd by the latter despite their advantage so you can't even really bait him effectively unless you have a bunch of Triangle Adepts ready to inherit. Lyn has paper thin armor so she's not too hard to kill, but them being in a tag team makes it really hard to outmaneuver, especially if you get stuck on some shitty map like the one with the bridges.

Well, whatever the case I can at least try to rebuild my Orb stock back up now. Tellius is coming up and I've not actually played them so I probably won't feel a strong urge to splurge on them. Though I suppose now is as good a time as any for me to try out the Tellius games (once I get over that ridiculous pricetag on PoR). There's also a Halloween Robin M and Tharja but I probably won't go for those either. Of course if they randomly plug a Sigurd/Dierdre banner in there I'm screwed.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 13, 2017, 06:59:33 AM
A stamina potion today and using the multipliers tomorrow should get me up to the next bracket.

Wouldn't be so sure on that (or at least staying there), people love to burn stamina potions the last few hours of the Tempest if the last few times are anything to go by.

Last pull on the FE7 banner for me, let's see if I get lucky.

And I get no green orbs of course.

3* Shanna: I'm actually running low on Shannas to give out desperation so I'll take it.
5* Nowi: Well, I got a blue dragon, but it's not the right one. At least she had the decency to show up as -HP +SPD. I guess I should be happy I got a 5* at all on the 3.5%, but for me Nowi's kind of an underwhelming random to roll since she doesn't get some huge upgrade compared to her 4* version.
4* Chrom: Wish he learned Aether at 4*, at least then I could inflate my arena scores.
3* Tiki: Can't I at least get a Hinata?
4* Tiki: Lots of dragons this time, just not the one I want.

Still going strong on not rolling the characters I want. I guess I should count my blessings that I got a decent haul on the CYL banner though. Plus Free Lyn!

Speaking of Lyn, Arena Assault has become really awful this week. She's all over the place and she's almost always paired with a QP Moonbow Reinhardt (plus probably someone with WoM just to screw you further). Nino, Summer Elise and Soren all get ORKO'd by the latter despite their advantage so you can't even really bait him effectively unless you have a bunch of Triangle Adepts ready to inherit. Lyn has paper thin armor so she's not too hard to kill, but them being in a tag team makes it really hard to outmaneuver, especially if you get stuck on some shitty map like the one with the bridges.

Well, whatever the case I can at least try to rebuild my Orb stock back up now. Tellius is coming up and I've not actually played them so I probably won't feel a strong urge to splurge on them. Though I suppose now is as good a time as any for me to try out the Tellius games (once I get over that ridiculous pricetag on PoR). There's also a Halloween Robin M and Tharja but I probably won't go for those either. Of course if they randomly plug a Sigurd/Dierdre banner in there I'm screwed.

Yes, but I also have two days worth of multipliers to dump onto the fire for shits and giggles (especially since those quests are still in effect).

And yeah, that's been my general experience with Arena Assault. Whole lotta whales and not enough hard/soft counters to go around. Even with the items, its generally not enough to tip the scales.

As for Tellus, as long as it doesn't include Elincia and her retainers I should be good (and chances are that it won't, they still have to go through a bunch of the other Greil Mercs like Boyd, Oscar, Rolf, Rhys, Shinon, Gatrie, and maybe Mia before they'll even look past that; I'm still impressed that Nephenee is getting T_T treatment, but that also means that she's gonna suck which sucks because she doesn't). Would be neat if they included Lethe or Mordecai for Laguz shenanigans, but who knows how ehh they'll be in Heroes.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 13, 2017, 07:16:13 AM
I wouldn't be too surprised if Elincia at least made it in, some of their choices are kind of head scratching but for the most part they include the popular/important characters. It's why we have Sophia and Fir instead of like, Marcus, Alan or Lance. Elincia and Micaiah are probably top of the list for Tellius characters, at least over the supporting characters of the Greil Mercenaries, barring Mia since she seems to be a fan favorite.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 13, 2017, 08:05:42 PM
I wouldn't be too surprised if Elincia at least made it in, some of their choices are kind of head scratching but for the most part they include the popular/important characters. It's why we have Sophia and Fir instead of like, Marcus, Alan or Lance. Elincia and Micaiah are probably top of the list for Tellius characters, at least over the supporting characters of the Greil Mercenaries, barring Mia since she seems to be a fan favorite.

True, but they're also looking like they're going to be focusing on FE9 over 10. But yeah, Elincia, if we don't get her here, we'll see for some FE10 coverage down the road (as she really didn't get to do much in FE9 anyways; not that she did much in FE10 either, but its still miles better than her stint in 9). That being said, I would like to see her sooner rather than later, if only for an actually good Red Flier (Amitti is a souped up Brave Sword (in FE10; its kinda not in FE9) so that'll easily give her a good solid use on Flier teams that are hurting for Brave damage like Hinoka, Cordelia or Camilla).

Either way, given how Echoes' Banners focused on characters that were either important to the story or early game characters, I wouldn't count out the Mercs (especially since FE10 kinda made them the stars of the show over the bottle of Dawn Brigade; plus we still have no idea how they're going to handle Laguz in Heroes and they make up like a third of FE9's playable cast). Also, the difference between FE6's starters and FE9's is that FE9's are a hell of a lot more relevant to their games (Roy's starting entourage are basically Marth's starting entourage expies and fall off pretty quickly aside from Wolt being Rebecca's son and Roy's milk brother, Marcus being in FE7 and Bors being Gwendolyn's brother; whereas Boyd, Oscar and Rolf are a lot more interesting as Boyd crushes on Mist, Oscar is both the team cook and Kieran's appointed 'eternal rival', and Rolf, along with Mist, kinda have issues with the whole 'killing' thing they're doing; and then you get to the fact that they're brothers and can Triangle Attack with each other; and then the rest of the A-Team have similar facets that generally keep them interesting over their expies/the characters they're expying).

(Also also, I want to see Gatrie or Brom make it in for more Armor units and maybe Volke for a second good dagger user. Is this too much to ask?)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 14, 2017, 04:11:01 AM
I decided I don't need a fancy Roy and that it'd be better to focus on Hector and Ninian. So throughout the past few days I collected all the orbs available for one final summoning.

Here we go.

5* Catria - ... I'm not entirely sure what to do with this... Atleast there wasn't any real pity rate to ruin.
4* Effie - Oh, better than what I have now! Not perfect, but better.
3* Barst - I'd call him 'Green Reposition Fodder', because that's exactly what he is, but that takes to long to type everytime I get one.
3* Florina - Right game, totally wrong unit.
4* Cordelia - Oh, nice! I've wanted one for a while and she's neutral, which means she's not -atk, so yay.
4* Roderick - His lance is cool and this one is +spd. That's a good combination.
4* Sully - More skill fodder.
3* Arthur - Talk about bad luck...
4* Oboro - I know I declared you best girl, but...

And the final one! Please be Ninian!

4* Est - In Dutch we say 'lest best', which means the best comes last. Instead I got Est.

Oh well, I guess I shouldn't complain too hard. The past few weeks I got a great Lancina and Axe Ike, and a better Linde. I've seen people on Youtube spend hundreds of dollars to get characters like that with good boons, and I got them without any investment beyond some daily play time.

Oh, and I just noticed I have like 55000 feathers. I'm not entirely sure how that happened. I was sitting at ~5000 right before this T_T. Maybe I'll promote my best Kagero. It's nice to have a good one around for Arena Assault.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 14, 2017, 05:02:37 AM
They've generally increased the number of feathers we get from their events which is probably why you have a lot more than you thought you would. It's welcome since you can never can have enough free 5*s. I don't think Kagero's a good investment right now personally, I barely use the one I have. But I guess there's a lot of people running BIke now so she could help with fighting him. I don't have too much trouble beating him with just about any random Red though, assuming you play smart and don't feed him a ton of special charge off his Steady Breath.

Also FE9 banner coming up with Nephenee, Oscar, and Elincia. Bad news for people who wanted Nephenee to be a free unit from the upcoming Tempest I suppose, but in exchange she has her skill from her native game and they made sure Wrath is ridiculously good. The HP threshold is actually more lenient than it was in the original game and it gives the Wo Dao +10 damage effect too. Gonna suck when people inherit it onto Sonya or something. The OHKO meta continues. Oscar is the frontrunner for downgrade to 4* after the banner ends, and a non-GHB unit with Lancebreaker 3 at 4* would be nice. Elincia is likely our first really good Red Flier with an 11MT Brave Sword that only does -2 SPD, inbuilt Death Blow and a short-distance teleportation skill. Unless she ends up with a terrible stat spread she'll be really annoying.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 14, 2017, 06:37:43 AM
Its less that and more that Dagger users have really fallen off in terms of viability over the course of the evolving meta. Bows are basically the only Colorless units still worth a damn due to their Anti-Flier nature and Brave Bows+.


Meanwhile, I'm eating blue crow here too. Elincia made it in alongside Oscar and Nephenee for a random FE9 assortment rather than pulling from any one group (and the Laguz are still doomed to being a lousy/gimmicky/ill-conceived gameplay mechanic). That being said, at least Amiti is only carrying a -2 Spd penalty instead of also buffing her Def and Res. About time we received a good Red Flier. Also, Neph may not be the T_T freebie (watch it be Sothe lol), but that also means that she's allowed to be good. Wrath is amazing and of course she's carting along the Slaying Lance+ to complete the upgrade (plus Moonbow is already a solid Special that she'll be running 100% of the time after taking some damage, just add Reciprocal Aid).

Anyways, since there really isn't anybody I want out of this banner (okay, Elincia would be nice, but I doubt I'll pull her and I've got a few Tellus characters in case of T_T), I don't feel so bad about blowing all of my Orbs on CYL (or I would if I had gotten more out of it than a lousy Roy).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 14, 2017, 07:09:44 AM
I'd argue that daggers were pretty bad from day 1 purely because of their role. They're designed to be low-damage debuffers in a game that favors a massive amount of OHKOing. Kagero is only good because she has the kit to fill the latter role against infantry, which of course fell off due to the pony and flying pony meta. Then recently they give one of the best debuff skills to an archer most players got a free copy of (on top of her just being a strong unit anyway).

Also taking a second look at Nephenee...she's almost worth pulling just for her skills, because every single one is great (slaying lance has obvious uses, atk/spd if you dont like fury recoil and wrath works on everyone). The problem is that you just know Oscar will pity break you over and over if you try to pull for her.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Arvis on September 14, 2017, 08:41:41 AM
Also taking a second look at Nephenee...

They got Nephenee in this game!?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 14, 2017, 08:55:46 AM
Not yet, but she'll be in like...tomorrow?

I've also heard rumors that Arvis from FE4 will be added soon. Think that's a sign? 🤔
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on September 14, 2017, 11:08:52 AM
You know who I think will be the unit we'll get during the next Tempest Trials (now that Nephenee is in a banner)? I think it's going to be the Black Knight.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 15, 2017, 01:47:51 AM
I'd argue that daggers were pretty bad from day 1 purely because of their role. They're designed to be low-damage debuffers in a game that favors a massive amount of OHKOing. Kagero is only good because she has the kit to fill the latter role against infantry, which of course fell off due to the pony and flying pony meta. Then recently they give one of the best debuff skills to an archer most players got a free copy of (on top of her just being a strong unit anyway).

Also taking a second look at Nephenee...she's almost worth pulling just for her skills, because every single one is great (slaying lance has obvious uses, atk/spd if you dont like fury recoil and wrath works on everyone). The problem is that you just know Oscar will pity break you over and over if you try to pull for her.

I wouldn't even pull an Oscar. I'd be lucky to get a +Spd/-Atk Cain again to wipe my pity rate or something.

But man, its even worse for Daggers than just low Atk. Basically anybody could debuff as well or better than Dagger units since Daggers focus on Def & Res and have to attack from 2 Range which most every major attacker unit in the current Meta does (or at least counters at) which generally equals a dead Dagger user and typically a failed mission since most of the game's challenge is built around keeping your guys alive. Just sticking a Seal Def or Res on a pair of units can achieve similar or better results and can probably attack at 1 or 2 Range which is a lot more flexible and less liable to end with a unit's death (and plenty of builds already do this, even Brave Weapon+ users could just slap Seal Def on their B slot and make their lackluster Atk stat much more useful on top of helping out the team).

And hell, it was basically Ephraim who heralded the end of Dagger Users relevancy with his two flavors of Def Debuffs on top of his even more useful Atk buffing Prf, and that was even before Inheritance. A bulky physical attacker with all the tools he wants and needs to be generally useful, and even after the Meta caught up, he's still a solid de/buffer.


Getting back to my bad luck with Banners, my efforts to pull a second CYL unit failed miserably with nothing of value to show for my second and last draw of the second attempt. I've since accepted my fate and pulled a Brave Lyn and am now gearing up for not pulling Elincia or Nephenee (of course, I wish their designs were better, but I'll live with what I can get). Also Burger King is more likely to be the next GHeB since he can still pull double duty as the next T_T's final boss. No idea who's gonna be the next T_T freebie, if anybody.


Meanwhile, I still wish that Arena Assault didn't completely suck ballz but its damn near unplayable now and its gonna get a whole lot worse once those Coins' true purpose are revealed.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 15, 2017, 02:55:14 AM
My plan for Kagero is to make her into a unit that can counter most low-def infantry units. My stack of mage-counters is on the short side, which sometimes make later Arena Assault Battles more difficult than they should be. Kagero would help in that department.

You know who I think will be the unit we'll get during the next Tempest Trials (now that Nephenee is in a banner)? I think it's going to be the Black Knight.

Black Knight has GHB written all over him. I'm betting the freebie is something like Boyd or Mia. Probably not Mia, because she's probably too popular to waste on something like this. Maybe even Rhys, if they really hate us. (But if they love us, they'll give Rhys Wrathful Staff.)

Now, if they're nice, they'll give us Astrid so the people who didn't get Bow-Lyn (bowling?) can have a bow knight of their own. Of course, Astrid will probably suck compared to Lyn, but hey, free is free. Plus, she'll probably have a skill that boosts exp for herself and other archers. You could use her to train a unit that's actually good.

But Intelligent Systems isn't that nice. Or atleast, won't be that nice until they forget how Camus and Xander changed the meta. So I'm putting my money on Boyd. He's a recognisable character but nobody expects him to be good.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 15, 2017, 06:11:26 AM
My plan for Kagero is to make her into a unit that can counter most low-def infantry units. My stack of mage-counters is on the short side, which sometimes make later Arena Assault Battles more difficult than they should be. Kagero would help in that department.

You know who I think will be the unit we'll get during the next Tempest Trials (now that Nephenee is in a banner)? I think it's going to be the Black Knight.

Black Knight has GHB written all over him. I'm betting the freebie is something like Boyd or Mia. Probably not Mia, because she's probably too popular to waste on something like this. Maybe even Rhys, if they really hate us. (But if they love us, they'll give Rhys Wrathful Staff.)

Now, if they're nice, they'll give us Astrid so the people who didn't get Bow-Lyn (bowling?) can have a bow knight of their own. Of course, Astrid will probably suck compared to Lyn, but hey, free is free. Plus, she'll probably have a skill that boosts exp for herself and other archers. You could use her to train a unit that's actually good.

But Intelligent Systems isn't that nice. Or atleast, won't be that nice until they forget how Camus and Xander changed the meta. So I'm putting my money on Boyd. He's a recognisable character but nobody expects him to be good.

I was thinking Brom myself to go with Nephenee. Or FE9 Sothe which will be appropriate as he's perfect trainee material and he'll still suck (though they could give him Stiletto or Baselard; probably the former since again, FE9).

Plus if they gave Astrid any sort of gains boosting skill, it'd be the Bow SP x2 one since Faye already has the Exp x2 one.


Edit: Before I forget; my t_t score was roughly 79k-ish and I ranked 80XX for 6k feathers. Not bad as I simply burned a single Stamina potion per day and the last two days I spent a bunch of Stamina on Female Robin.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Hathen on September 15, 2017, 06:28:12 AM
I burned quite a few stamina potions and I ended up rank ~4500. As usual people were hammering it pretty hard towards the end. If I didn't live in Asia timezone I definitely wouldn't bother with it.

We know Black Knight's stats now, and this image seems to sum it up pretty well.

(https://i.redditmedia.com/z2C0pjqDk57S9db4PvnEm6tPPgXvBzzfck-ZQioXy7Y.jpg?w=483&s=b57759d6cd41ead0c174f9878697e768)

But seriously Black Knight completely craps all over Draug and makes everyone regret 5*-ing Zephiel. At least the latter still has a niche because he's a lot tankier than Burger King still, but Steady Stance 3 closes that gap significantly and he doesn't have inbuilt distant counter.

I'm half expecting BK to come from the Tempest despite a GHB making a lot more sense, because these 4 units were the only ones added by the patch today. They might be doing that deliberately to surprise us though I suppose.

Also Elincia has an absurdly good offensive spread so prepare to have fun getting quaded by a sword flier in addition to both Cordelias while Tana teleports them around. I pulled a 4* Eirika on my free pull. -SPD once again, but hey, Hone Speed is nice.

At least they had the sense to restrict wrath to only non mage/archer infantry and armored units. I don't think we needed bladetomes or Reinhardt running around with wrath.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 15, 2017, 06:58:12 AM
Zephiel was still worth 5 staring just for the built-in Threaten Def 2 debuff. Although at this point, there's no longer any reason to continue slumming it with Draug and Gwendolyn as I now have two Effies, a 5 star Sheena and the BK when he shows up.

Also poor Nephenee is pretty much SI fodder now due to her poor Atk stat (she's basically a faster Ephraim, but Wrath is too valuable to leave on someone with 34 Atk (and that's with an Atk+ boon). Although it'll take two of her to fully kit someone out.

Elincia meanwhile is a goddamn monster and has made anyone who ever really invested into Caeda or Palla regret it now. Especially since that teleportation skill is in her B slot and has a free slot for Flier Emblem shenanigans. Pairing her with Cody, a green like Minerva/Cherche/Camilla and a Flying Tome would make one hell of a team (of course half of the buffs are still locked to Hinoka and Minerva and Flying Tomes are still Event Only which leaves True Flier Emblem available to only the rich and the lucky).

Oscar has a pretty general spread for a mounted unit which means that he's unremarkable barring significant SI and his design sucks (Stupid Sexy Oscar). He's great SI fodder if he ends up as a 4 star which the game seems to be reluctant to make anyone these days (they must really be gearing up for a 6 star tier).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 15, 2017, 09:45:28 AM
I got 4000 feathers as my rank reward since I only bothered to reach 50.000. It's fine. I have more feathers than I know what to do with anyway. Maybe I'll just bump Odin (was it Odin?) to 5* and give Summer Corrin that blade tome+.

Anyway, time for pulls! Elincia would be nice, but I have a well-functioning flier team already, because I was lucky enough to pull both Spring Camilla and Summer Corrin. Palla might not be that impressive, but she's a reliable Hector-killer.

I know I'm not going to get Elincia, so I'm just going to do one full pull for 15 orbs and leave it at that. Gotta save up for the next big limited edition/hero fest banner.

... See, I told you. No reds!

4* Klein - Awesome. And I mean it. His skills are going to make someone really happy.
3* Gunter - Meh.
3* Arthur - Go way.
3* Bartre - I have the worst luck with green.
4* Subaki - I guess someone might want Quick Reposte 2?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Smashking on September 15, 2017, 11:23:47 AM
I burned my 200+ orbs on the new banner, and I got four 5*s, but none of them are from this banner...

I'm going to go and cry in a corner now. This happened during the last Path of Radiance banner too. I got up to 7% before finally getting Mist.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Klutz64 on September 15, 2017, 04:05:43 PM
Used my free summon and got a 5* Lilina

I have an overabundance of mages and not much else, so wasn't too excited. But she's super cute, at least?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Andrew on September 15, 2017, 06:05:01 PM
I haven't pulled in a while and had 300 Orbs lying around, so I went for it. Pulled two Oscars within 20 Orbs... >.>

About 50 Orbs later I pulled Nephenee, and another 100-ish later I got Elincia. So not too bad overall.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Aeolus on September 19, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Female Robin's Infernal ReReGHeB was easy enough to beat on my third try or so. So now I'm focusing on clearing the Story Missions and Training Tower Missions. Also, to reiterate, I still do not like Arena Assault at all. Its such a chore to do every day that I didn't even bother with today's AA Missions until it was too late to do them. At least I'm almost done with the monthly Tenth Stratum shenanigans (Armor and Infantry are done, Flier is now 11/15 done and Cavalry is currently 0/15 but I'll grind that along with Ninth Stratum and the remaining Training Tower Missions) and Chapter 13 (Lunatic is totally cleared all the way to 13-5).

Really, my next task is to clear enough room to pull again (or just burn the Orb and expand my Barracks yet again; of course I go and pull a 5 star Leon (+Atk/-HP which is pretty fucking good for a unit that now has to compete with Brave Lyn and face down Brave Ike) from the Tellus Banner because I can never seem to pull a Banner unit during their actual Banner; also got a 4 star Ogma for inheritance, 4 star Merric for something something, a 4 star Olivia to replace one of my useless 3 stars and lets me perform a Klein's Harem strategy, and a 3 star Beruka because I can't not pull at least one piece of trash per session).

Also, judging from the title of the next T_T, I think I'm in a good position with having Mist for the 1.4x multiplier (my prediction is Ike, Brave Ike, Elincia and Mist with the 1.2xers being Soren, Titania, Nephenee and the designated Askr representative).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
Post by: Tomara on September 19, 2017, 05:12:03 AM
Holy shit, we're actually getting a Black Knight as a T_T reward. I wonder if there's a catch. IS can't be this nice, right? Maybe he has no skills like 'Marth' and we get a proper one from a GHB later?

In any case, new banner! I want red Ike and Soren!

... And I got Frederick, Hawkeye and another Hawkeye. The first Hawkeye was nice because I didn't have one yet, but then it gave me another and that killed all summoning joy.

Anyway, it looks like I'll have to rely on Titania. Which is fine. She and Lyn are the brand new members of Horse Emblem B (A being Elise, Xander, Reinhardt and Cecilia, who've all maxed their HM by now) and unless this T_T is super mean, they should be enough to clear the highest difficulty level or atleast be able to make it close to the top. They'll be supported by Camus and Priscilla. Yeah, I know, no reds (because the game gave me a Tharja instead of the L