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Title: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Lard on August 20, 2018, 05:21:47 PM
https://gematsu.com/2018/08/grandia-grandia-ii-hd-remaster-announced-for-switch-grandia-hd-remaster-announced-for-pc

They said "this winter" so who knows when that is and when the NA release date will be.
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Der Jermeister on August 20, 2018, 05:32:17 PM
Cool, I'll probably get these.
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Dincrest on August 20, 2018, 05:39:35 PM
Obligatory "we have a front page" post: http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2018/8080.html

In all seriousness, I'm curious as to how they'll handle the updating of Grandia.  That game is old enough to drink and definitely needs some serious shine and polish.  I also wonder if they'll redub the English voices and freshen up the localization. 
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Rucks on August 21, 2018, 09:05:34 AM
nice!
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Aeolus on August 21, 2018, 09:22:36 AM
I hope they do a better job of porting Grandia 2 to the Switch than the PS2 port job was.

Edit: But the real news of the day is the Sega Ages port of Phantasy Star 1 (https://gematsu.com/2018/08/sega-ages-phantasy-star-launches-in-september). Automapping ftw.
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Rucks on August 21, 2018, 09:42:06 AM
I hope they do a better job of porting Grandia 2 to the Switch than the PS2 port job was.

Edit: But the real news of the day is the Sega Ages port of Phantasy Star 1 (https://gematsu.com/2018/08/sega-ages-phantasy-star-launches-in-september). Automapping ftw.

Is this the PS2 remake or just a gussied up port of the original?

having bothered to actually read the link, I am disappoint.
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Mickeymac92 on August 21, 2018, 10:04:26 AM
I hope they do a better job of porting Grandia 2 to the Switch than the PS2 port job was.

Edit: But the real news of the day is the Sega Ages port of Phantasy Star 1 (https://gematsu.com/2018/08/sega-ages-phantasy-star-launches-in-september). Automapping ftw.

Is this the PS2 remake or just a gussied up port of the original?

having bothered to actually read the link, I am disappoint.

I'm not. All I wanted was the original with more explanations and automapping. Which this has, plus other bonus features. If it ever gets localized, I'd get it in a heartbeat and marathon that sucker.

As for Grandia 1 & 2, I'll definitely get the Switch version at some point, whenever I get one of those. I have versions of both games, though, so I might wait for a sale.
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Dincrest on August 21, 2018, 10:37:20 AM
Grandia II Anniversary Edition seemed to be a decent enough port for PC: http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/Grandia_II_Anniversary_Edition/index.html

I'm still curious as to how they'll gussy up Grandia 1. 

And, yes, Phantasy Star with auto-mapping is a win.  Those of us old enough to have played the original back in the day are certainly aware of having used copious amounts of graph paper to map out dungeons. 
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Hathen on August 22, 2018, 01:23:47 AM
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Both games feature...stellar voice acting

I laughed.
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Dincrest on August 22, 2018, 11:53:57 AM
I recall that big hulking knight who joins Justin's party always sounded like he had a stuffy nose.  I mean, wow.  Bad voice acting is one thing, but putting in a voice actor who clearly has a cold...
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Rucks on August 22, 2018, 12:47:08 PM
but were they fun to play?

yes, yes they were.
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Dincrest on August 22, 2018, 01:55:08 PM
I don't think there's any argument that the Grandia series has one of the best turn-based battle systems in the genre.  I also think there's little argument that the series has some of the coolest battle and boss music themes. 

Still, Grandia 1's localization has a TON of room for improvement. 
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Der Jermeister on August 22, 2018, 07:04:51 PM
I also hope in the first Grandia they make the compass more useful (like in Grandia II), since I found it easy to get lost in dungeons at times, and to forget whether the compass was pointing forward or backward. Maybe ditch the limited inventory too. It's okay to limit the number items characters can bring into battle, so long as they don't force you to choose between what to keep and dispose of (like the Dragon Quest games with a sack into which to put excess items).
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Agent D. on August 23, 2018, 12:19:20 AM
I recall that big hulking knight who joins Justin's party always sounded like he had a stuffy nose.  I mean, wow.  Bad voice acting is one thing, but putting in a voice actor who clearly has a cold...
Hey don't you insult Gadwin!
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Aeolus on August 23, 2018, 12:50:24 AM
I recall that big hulking knight who joins Justin's party always sounded like he had a stuffy nose.  I mean, wow.  Bad voice acting is one thing, but putting in a voice actor who clearly has a cold...
Hey don't you insult Gadwin!

Gadwin? Moar liek Sadlose. Amirite?
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Hathen on August 23, 2018, 02:54:50 AM
I for one hope that even if they re-dub the game (which I really don't expect) they'll have an option for keeping the original dub. Not playing Grandia with the laughable original dub at this point would be like popping in Shining Force 3 and not getting an earful of ARCTIC BLATHTS.
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Dincrest on August 23, 2018, 06:01:48 AM
Analagous situation:

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night's voice acting:  Playstation original vs PSP redux (with Dracula X Chronicles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLIQCrVUrZU

Which do you prefer?

For me, [spoiler] original Alucard definitely had the superior voice to new Alucard and both had equivalent acting.  Both Richters were lousy, but old Richter was memorably cheesy.  Original Maria sounded too mature and new Maria sounded too "little girl."  Both Draculas were menacing, but I prefer new Dracula because he had more aristocratic smoothness along with the menace.

Partially because of nostalgia, I kinda prefer the old "so bad it's good" voice acting over the new voice acting, which is competent yet very plain vanilla and not at all memorable. [/spoiler]

Still, Grandia 1's voice acting, stuffy nosed knight and all, is gold compared to the trainwreck that is 2008's Chaos Wars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bangt7d9vGA
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Frostillicus on August 23, 2018, 09:08:00 AM
I also hope in the first Grandia they make the compass more useful (like in Grandia II), since I found it easy to get lost in dungeons at times,

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, you got lost because there is barely enough room to slip a sheet of paper in between the camera and characters.  It's undoubtedly annoying to repeatedly lose the sense of where you are in a dungeon, simply because you can't see much around the party.
..but hey, at least the two or three enemy varieties present can see you from further away, which helps them consistently get the much-needed drop on you. That's pretty awesome. Also, the zoom out viewpoints that twist the camera (unless you stick to the default position at all times) while performing their function are extremely helpful.
Nothing quite like trying to disguise tedium as difficulty, Game Arts.

Yes, I have gripes with that game. To be fair, I enjoyed the characters, and the battle system is top notch. Never played the second, although it's waiting in my Steam library, because I like sales.
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Limlight on August 23, 2018, 09:43:04 AM
I always wished that other rpgs would take grandia's battle system and refine/push it forward. I always loved it.
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Der Jermeister on August 23, 2018, 10:06:59 AM
I always wished that other rpgs would take grandia's battle system and refine/push it forward. I always loved it.
I think Atelier Iris 2 and Child of Light did Grandia-esque battle systems well.
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: MonCapitan2002 on August 24, 2018, 07:17:25 PM
Analagous situation:

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night's voice acting:  Playstation original vs PSP redux (with Dracula X Chronicles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLIQCrVUrZU

Which do you prefer?

For me, [spoiler] original Alucard definitely had the superior voice to new Alucard and both had equivalent acting.  Both Richters were lousy, but old Richter was memorably cheesy.  Original Maria sounded too mature and new Maria sounded too "little girl."  Both Draculas were menacing, but I prefer new Dracula because he had more aristocratic smoothness along with the menace.

Partially because of nostalgia, I kinda prefer the old "so bad it's good" voice acting over the new voice acting, which is competent yet very plain vanilla and not at all memorable. [/spoiler]

Still, Grandia 1's voice acting, stuffy nosed knight and all, is gold compared to the trainwreck that is 2008's Chaos Wars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bangt7d9vGA
I think new Richter is mediocre, not lousy.

As awesome as it is to see these games coming out for the Nintendo Switch, I would much prefer seeing them on the Playstation 4. 

On the issue of localization, in the case of the original Grandia, it was published by SCEA.  I doubt they would license the original localization to Gung-Ho Entertainment so it can be released on a competing platform.  In all likelihood, they will have to relocalize the entire game complete with re-recording new voice acting.
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Dincrest on August 24, 2018, 08:31:52 PM
So there is hope of the burly knight sounding knightly and not like some dude with a stuffy nose.
Title: Re: Grandia 1 and 2 are coming to the Switch
Post by: Lard on September 08, 2018, 01:37:24 PM
I actually would prefer them to leave the voices the way they are.

I'm so used to them at this point, it would seem weird having new ones.