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Title: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on December 06, 2010, 11:08:39 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr3sawbcVj1qirzj5o1_500.png)

New Tomb Raider to trace the Origin of Lara Croft:

"Developer Crystal Dynamics is working on a new Tomb Raider meant to be an origin story for Lara Croft, the studio said today.

"Forget everything you knew about TOMB RAIDER," said Darrell Gallagher, Head of Studio, Crystal Dynamics. "This is an origins story that creates Lara Croft and takes her on a character defining journey like no other."

The game, they say, will feature the first adventure for a young and inexperienced Lara Croft in a story which "charts the journey of an ordinary woman who finds out just how far she must go in order to stay alive."

'After a brutal storm destroys the boat she was travelling on, a frightened young woman is left washed ashore on an unknown beach. On her own but not alone she has only one goal, to survive'

The game's official site (http://tombraider.com/) shows that the game will be released for PC, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. It also shows that Lara might be holding a bow."
-- Source: Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5707092/new-tomb-raider-to-trace-the-origin-of-lara-croft?skyline=true&s=i)

Here's also the first piece of news (http://kotaku.com/5312553/rumor-tomb-raider-reboot-art-details-leaked) about this game.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yoda on December 06, 2010, 11:29:30 AM
This has great potential, I'll be sure keeping my eye on this
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Dice on December 06, 2010, 12:25:25 PM
I agree - she's looking pretty foxy, even if beat up and as filthy as the Harry Potter kids get in every movie.  I kinda like the more natural look to the make-up packed one or with the chiseled features.  This one is soft!  I'll keep an eye.  If they can make it awesome (never been to keen to the series), I may buy... I've had a thing for action games lately (yeah yeah, basically if they can make Uncharted: ft Lara Croft then I'm good).

Lara Croft...the university years.  Hope the game ends with her finding treasure and spending it on the boob job she clearly gets.

(http://www.reellifewisdom.com/files/images/harry%20potter%20and%20the%20chamber%20of%20secrets.bmp)

I found a funny post on Kotaku.. someone thought it was a Square Enix *male* hero.  I lol'd, they do look pretty effeminate.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: hell_snake on December 06, 2010, 01:13:41 PM
Lara Croft...the university years.  Hope the game ends with her finding treasure and spending it on the boob job she clearly gets.
Maybe she doesn't need one. We haven't seen the full design yet ;)
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on December 06, 2010, 01:15:21 PM
January Cover Revealed (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/12/06/january-cover-revealed.aspx)

Also, someone said that the game it should be released during the Christmas period 2011.

And holy hell look at this (http://i.imgur.com/QxmZJ.jpg) artwork (http://media1.gameinformer.com/images/site/pages/tr/bg.jpg)! *wowface*

I'm praying for a limited/special edition with an Artbook. This with Deus Ex 3, Portal 2, and The Last Guardian are my most anticipated games for next year.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yoda on December 06, 2010, 01:19:39 PM
Lara Croft...the university years.  Hope the game ends with her finding treasure and spending it on the boob job she clearly gets.
Maybe she doesn't need one. We haven't seen the full design yet ;)

These will do just fine
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/07/custom_1247335291357_rumorcroft.jpg)
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: hell_snake on December 06, 2010, 01:30:52 PM
These will do just fine
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/07/custom_1247335291357_rumorcroft.jpg)
That seems like a discarded design from old concept art.

This with Deus Ex 3, Portal 2, and The Last Guardian are my most anticipated games for next year.
Awesome taste you got there. I'd add Project Dark and Journey.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on December 06, 2010, 11:45:31 PM
Tomb Raider Game Informer info (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24767981&postcount=1), the franchise starts from the scratch.

Quote from: Solo, NeoGAF Member
Tomb Raider meets Uncharted meets Metal Gear Solid 3 meets Resident Evil 4?

*gasp* That sounds tempting.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Dice on December 06, 2010, 11:50:04 PM
Tomb Raider Game Informer info (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24767981&postcount=1), the franchise starts from the scratch.

Quote from: Solo, NeoGAF Member
Tomb Raider meets Uncharted meets Metal Gear Solid 3 meets Resident Evil 4?

*gasp* That sounds tempting.

I'm gay for Lara now...
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Esper_Crusader on December 07, 2010, 06:55:41 AM
I'm kind of surprised that they keep giving this franchise chances after the last decade of mediocre outings.  Well, the last couple were pretty good but I don't recall them selling all that well. Anyway, that aside, I'm hoping for a stellar game.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: CDFN on December 07, 2010, 06:57:46 AM
Needs more blood.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: GrimReality on December 07, 2010, 09:07:00 AM
This actually has peaked my interest. I remember playing through the first one and a little bit of the second. Haven't played a TR game since then. I like the new look of Lara, and the overall feel. We'll see.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Jet16 on December 07, 2010, 09:14:41 AM
This sounds really interesting. I would have looked forward to a new Tomb Raider regardless of a drastic change seeing as how I enjoyed Underworld and Guardian of Light.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Galbalan on December 19, 2010, 03:01:58 AM
I gotta say I find her new look more interesting than the blow-up sex doll from the original iteration. Even that Anniversary remake of the original failed to grab me, so here's hoping with this one. If it rips off Uncharted, all the better. If they throw in the dinosaurs and mummies and shit, three times the better. For a series that never interested me before, this looks like the tits (and not Lara's, ha hahahaaahaaahaa haaa).
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yoda on December 19, 2010, 03:03:50 PM
RE: Thread title

DONE
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: CDFN on December 19, 2010, 03:35:37 PM
Tomb Raider Trilogy Confirmed for PS3

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/114/1140977p1.html (http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/114/1140977p1.html)
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Fei on December 19, 2010, 08:53:24 PM
This actually has peaked my interest. I remember playing through the first one and a little bit of the second. Haven't played a TR game since then.

I think this is why they can still try to make the franchise relevant.  

But, Lara Croft was the epitome of objectification, and seeing her new appearance after all these years, I still think "mud wrestling".

I like(d) Eidos, and Square Enix, so I remain open to this being good.

Final thoughts: girl Turok.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: CDFN on December 30, 2010, 03:29:18 PM
We have pics:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417278 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417278)

Looks interesting, definitely darker and more violence than previous games. I like this new Lara, looks more like a real woman, more natural. It's not the best looking game out there but I like where they are going with this and it will probably look better when it's finished. I spot QTEs in a couple of pics but those never bothered me.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Danku on December 30, 2010, 04:59:43 PM
This is basically what I think about this right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktNgVmySQ5k
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on December 30, 2010, 05:36:19 PM
We have pics:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417278 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417278)

Those pics just tell me one thing; that this game is going to look better on PC. If the final product is going to look as good as these screenshots when the game is released on consoles, then I'll be really impressed.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Jet16 on December 30, 2010, 08:08:57 PM
This looks great.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Dice on December 30, 2010, 10:40:07 PM
The game looks stunning (though, with that much rain, you'd think the blood would have washed odd.....eh, nuance).

Hopefully, with Squeenix at the helm, it'll learn from FF13 and incorporate great graphics...and better gameplay.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Hathen on December 31, 2010, 03:22:40 AM
Quote
Squeenix
Quote
learn

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/Symbios/daughterdisappoint.jpg?t=1293783709)
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: CDFN on December 31, 2010, 04:37:33 AM
From a technical point of view it actually doesn't look very impressive, It does seem to have this nice survival horror atmosphere though.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: CastNuri on December 31, 2010, 10:30:45 AM
It does seem to have this nice survival horror atmosphere though.

If this is the general vibe reviewers get from the game when it's released, I'm definitely getting it. The pics do come across as such.

Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: RicJFNas on January 03, 2011, 07:07:36 AM
They were able to revive Lara Croft with the Guardian of Light after some "hicups", and from the looks of these images they might be going on the right track. The graphics for sure aren't something special, but since it's still in development there's room for improvement. I'm kinda curios what kind of gameplay they will use.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on January 04, 2011, 12:51:54 PM
Conrad Roth sure looks a lot like Drake (http://virtualgirl6654.deviantart.com/art/Character-Profile-Conrad-Roth-189732197?q=gallery:virtualgirl6654/171437&qo=19).
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: CDFN on March 22, 2011, 08:40:01 AM
Found the trilogy for 21 euro and ordered it. I played Anniversary and Legend on PS2 and Underworld on PC but the first 2 look so good in these remastered versions and I really enjoyed them back then so I decided to give them another go. Buying all 3 on steam right now costs about twice as much. I guess I'm in the mood for this type of game right now because I'm really looking forward to playing these again. It's been awhile so I don't remember much anyway.
For anyone who cares about these things, all 3 games have trophies, there are also 2 home avatars, a theme and making of videos for all 3 games.
Should get me hyped for the new game, I hope it's good.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: CDFN on March 23, 2011, 10:48:18 AM
The new PS3 version of Anniversary seems to look better than the PC version:

http://www.abload.de/img/tra_comparison_expensislto.jpg (http://www.abload.de/img/tra_comparison_expensislto.jpg)
http://www.abload.de/img/tra_comparison_trex5xkq.jpg (http://www.abload.de/img/tra_comparison_trex5xkq.jpg)

PC is at max settings at 720p. In the first pic check out Lara's face, especially the nose. Lighting also seems improved. The overall image looks crisper on PC though. Looks like a very good port.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yoda on March 23, 2011, 11:55:02 AM
I hope they keep the exploration in this.

I don't want any fucking arrows or glowing things telling me where to look.

I'm so fucking tired of that shit.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: CDFN on April 08, 2011, 09:34:18 AM
I need to share my thoughts on the Tomb Raider trilogy that was just released for the PS3. I played Legend and Anniversary on the PS2 and Underworld on PC back when they were released so I was curious to see how they would hold up, I enjoyed them a lot back then.

First thing I want to mention is the existence of a launcher that allows you to switch between games without existing to the xmb, it's the first collection to have this feature.

I started with the oldest game, Legend. The game holds up well, you can tell it's an old game but it looks nice in HD. It was a really good reboot of the franchise back then and is still a joy to play. The motorcycle sections are nothing to write home about but they didn't bother me. Overall a very enjoyable experience.

Since Underworld is a direct sequel to Legend I decided to save the best (Anniversary) for last and go with it next. Unfortunately I was very disappointed, I had no idea the PS3 version was such an atrocity, it's a very beautiful game but that's all it has going for it. You can tell that they tried to take the gameplay to another level and though some new moves like the sprint and the new ways to make use of the grappling hook are welcome, the lack of polish in the way Lara interacts with the environment and even in her animation, destroy it completely. You never feel really in control of her. Combat feels even worse than in the previous games, now she can aim at 2 targets simultaneously when wielding the dual weapons but it only causes the camera to spin uncontrollably from target to target, it's nausea inducing. The camera isn't any better during platforming, it's like it's trying to kill you. Sometimes it's looking in the opposite direction of where you need to jump, forcing you to jump blindly and hoping that Lara will grab on to something.
The frame-rate is borderline unplayable, the game can become a slideshow in some areas with Mexico being the worst offender.
It's a shame that such a beautiful game with a fantastic atmosphere (it really is breathtaking sometimes) is ruined by poor design decisions. The motorcycle sections are back and are way more furstrating than in Legend.
But the worst thing are the bugs, not only did they force me to reload my save in order to be able to progress (a door was somehow replaced by a solid wall) but the game actually freezes the PS3 in the last level. It got to a point where I wondered if I would be able to complete the game. The fact that they didn't fix this for this re-release is unacceptable. the first time it happened I actually thought my PS3 died.
Finally, you can't explore the mansion, one of my favorite features of the other 2 games.
This is up there with enslaved in the biggest wasted potential category of this gen.

So with a bad taste in my mouth I move on to Anniversary. To put it simply, it's brilliant. Don't expect it look like a PS2 game either, you can tell that a lot of attention went into this port, Lara in particular looks really good. As for the game itself it's considered the best TR ever for a reason, it's a joy to play. Exploring these fantastic locations, especially now with the improved visuals, puts it among the best action adventure games of this gen, despite being a last gen game. That's how well it holds up.

One thing all 3 games have in common is Keeley Hawes, the voice of Lara Croft. She is PERFECT, she fits Lara like Nolan North fits Drake.

Bottom line, this collection did it's job of getting me hyped for the new game. Please bring Keeley Hawes back.

Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Dice on April 08, 2011, 01:16:57 PM
I hope they keep the exploration in this.

I don't want any fucking arrows or glowing things telling me where to look.

I'm so fucking tired of that shit.

I wish I had this for item's I've lost.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Legaia on April 09, 2011, 12:36:57 PM
Fear Effect >>>>>> Tomb Raider.

Never liked the Tomb Raider series. So dull.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: CDFN on April 09, 2011, 01:13:50 PM
I really don't see where that came from, they're completely different games. That's like coming into a Resident Evil thread and saying Super Mario Galaxy >>> Resident Evil.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yoda on April 09, 2011, 01:29:46 PM
Starcraf 2 > MLB the Show 2011
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Legaia on April 09, 2011, 03:31:52 PM
I really don't see where that came from, they're completely different games. That's like coming into a Resident Evil thread and saying Super Mario Galaxy >>> Resident Evil.

Fear Effect and Tomb Raider aren't quite as different as comparing SMG with Resident Evil.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: CDFN on April 09, 2011, 04:38:55 PM
I really don't see where that came from, they're completely different games. That's like coming into a Resident Evil thread and saying Super Mario Galaxy >>> Resident Evil.

Fear Effect and Tomb Raider aren't quite as different as comparing SMG with Resident Evil.

That's irrelevant, there's just no point, it's completely random. Where are you coming from with this statement? Why Fear Effect? What does that have to do with anything? You could say that you feel TR is obsolete since uncharted's release for example, but Fear Effect? I just don't see your point.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on April 09, 2011, 05:17:43 PM
You see CDFN, the problem here is that everything that Sise-Neg says is a supernova of truth.

...he's pretty hilarious too. :I
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yoda on April 09, 2011, 05:23:00 PM
I really don't see where that came from, they're completely different games. That's like coming into a Resident Evil thread and saying Super Mario Galaxy >>> Resident Evil.

Fear Effect and Tomb Raider aren't quite as different as comparing SMG with Resident Evil.

That's irrelevant, there's just no point, it's completely random. Where are you coming from with this statement? Why Fear Effect? What does that have to do with anything? You could say that you feel TR is obsolete since uncharted's release for example, but Fear Effect? I just don't see your point.

Just like that guy in the ME thread, I hate when people do that.

Between this and his Fear Effect thread maybe Sise-Neg has a few copies of of Fear Effect for sale on ebay is trying to rally interest thus driving up biding prices
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Legaia on April 10, 2011, 04:10:39 AM
I really don't see where that came from, they're completely different games. That's like coming into a Resident Evil thread and saying Super Mario Galaxy >>> Resident Evil.

Fear Effect and Tomb Raider aren't quite as different as comparing SMG with Resident Evil.

That's irrelevant, there's just no point, it's completely random. Where are you coming from with this statement? Why Fear Effect? What does that have to do with anything? You could say that you feel TR is obsolete since uncharted's release for example, but Fear Effect? I just don't see your point.

Fear Effect:Inferno was canceled after Eidos lost money making a poor selling Tomb Raider game. It's my...personal grudge.

Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: CDFN on April 10, 2011, 04:15:09 AM
I really don't see where that came from, they're completely different games. That's like coming into a Resident Evil thread and saying Super Mario Galaxy >>> Resident Evil.

Fear Effect and Tomb Raider aren't quite as different as comparing SMG with Resident Evil.

That's irrelevant, there's just no point, it's completely random. Where are you coming from with this statement? Why Fear Effect? What does that have to do with anything? You could say that you feel TR is obsolete since uncharted's release for example, but Fear Effect? I just don't see your point.

Fear Effect:Inferno was canceled after Eidos lost money making a poor selling Tomb Raider game. It's my...personal grudge.



Oh, OK. You could've said so, I seriously doubt anyone would've been able to figure that out.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on April 27, 2011, 06:39:53 AM
Tomb Raider - New Info and More Coming (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27431336&postcount=1)

It has been years since I bought the last Hobby Consolas, now I have an excuse to buy it again, that is if I find any copy of the magazine out there... sometimes this things are in sale in my country like 3 months late (or never).

One thing is certain, dat poster (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27431815&postcount=45) is going to be mine.

Also, I should mention that Hobby Consolas is a very old gaming magazine from Spain with good reputation. I have some old stuff in some boxes, and one in the closet... with a guide of FFXII and a very good interview and poster of Devil May Cry 4. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: CDFN on April 27, 2011, 10:25:40 AM
Tomb Raider - New Info and More Coming (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27431336&postcount=1)

It has been years since I bought the last Hobby Consolas, now I have an excuse to buy it again, that is if I find any copy of the magazine out there... sometimes this things are in sale in my country like 3 months late (or never).

One thing is certain, dat poster (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27431815&postcount=45) is going to be mine.

Also, I should mention that Hobby Consolas is a very old gaming magazine from Spain with good reputation. I have some old stuff in some boxes, and one in the closet... with a guide of FFXII and a very good interview and poster of Devil May Cry 4. Good stuff.

I used to buy it too when I was kid, great mag.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: CDFN on April 29, 2011, 05:38:09 AM
Check this thread on the TR forum for all the info published in a french mag (lot's of gameplay pics):

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=180784 (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=180784)

Looks awesome, I'm really excited for this one.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Maxximum on April 29, 2011, 04:26:38 PM
I don't know about this. It could be good, but I like the original games, hope they don't stray too far from the formula. Skimming through a single page of that topic reminded me how obsessed people can get. Makes me want to have a look if Something Awful still does the "weekend web".
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Farron on April 29, 2011, 08:37:01 PM
I'm liking the looks of it a lot! I think the only thing going against it is Uncharted 3.
Both follow the Indiana Jones type of adventure, with platforming and puzzles but with the inumerous praises U2 got and the increasing hype it is getting I can't see how this new Tomb Raider won't be shadowed by it, unless they surprise us and release it as soon as July because the closer it gets to uncharted the closer it gets to not being seen.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Dice on April 30, 2011, 02:18:51 AM
RE: Thread title

DONE

Old, but my sentiments as well.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Eusis on April 30, 2011, 09:26:35 AM
I'm liking the looks of it a lot! I think the only thing going against it is Uncharted 3.
Both follow the Indiana Jones type of adventure, with platforming and puzzles but with the inumerous praises U2 got and the increasing hype it is getting I can't see how this new Tomb Raider won't be shadowed by it, unless they surprise us and release it as soon as July because the closer it gets to uncharted the closer it gets to not being seen.

I THINK the intent is to go for a different experience, plus given the lengths of the games it's not unreasonably to fit in both like it would be for two massive RPGs.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: EquipableMoustache on May 12, 2011, 09:06:01 PM
As a heads up, the new issue of PlayStation: The Official Magazine totally has this game on the cover. A really nice write-up with a lot of screenshots. The game is apparently not releasing until next year, so no worries about competing with Uncharted 3 now.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: CDFN on May 30, 2011, 05:52:53 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/I7ioM.jpg)
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yoda on June 03, 2011, 11:36:28 AM
Just watched the trailer... looks very promising.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Dice on June 03, 2011, 11:55:15 AM
I kinda hate this "grand theatrics" games have going nowadays... I wanted gameplay. :(

EDIT: watched the vid, looks amazing to say the least.  But I love the Squeenix-universe hair physics at play.  She just got dug out of a watery grave, but her hair still swishes around -- it's beautiful! haha
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Maxximum on June 04, 2011, 08:13:13 AM
Mortal Kombat, DMC and now Tomb Raider. Lots of reebots happening lately. Trailer looks great though, just hope they don't mess about with the formula too much. I have very fond memories of the original tile.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yoda on June 04, 2011, 10:47:31 AM
Yeah it'd be pretty sweet if this game was heavy on survival and exploration.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 04, 2011, 12:44:48 PM
Yeah it'd be pretty sweet if this game was heavy on survival and exploration.

That's what I hope too. I'm getting pretty tired of seeing that every big new game is about shooting things.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: CDFN on June 10, 2011, 05:38:58 AM
She moans too much, they really need to tone that down.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Farron on June 10, 2011, 10:22:14 AM
She moans too much, they really need to tone that down.

I bet that's SquareEnix's doings. Probably just like they did to the 3rd Birthday.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on October 21, 2011, 09:40:05 PM
http://hiptic.com/tombraider15

Found this yesterday on NeoGAF.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 14, 2012, 01:25:19 AM
Tomb Raider release date shifts to 2013 (http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?p=1757478)

*sigh* Dammit.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Eusis on May 14, 2012, 09:00:58 PM
I can't be bothered cursing out a delay unless it's, like, a month away, but it really is starting to look like this will be one of the blandest year ends yet. Depends on E3, but all in all I'm suspecting this is going to be the worst year for gaming this generation, or at least second worst full year following 2006 (and that's on account of being in its infancy).
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: MeshGearFox on May 14, 2012, 10:27:31 PM
Quote
Forget everything you knew

One step ahead of you there, buddy!
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Eusis on May 14, 2012, 10:30:28 PM
Quote
Forget everything you knew

One step ahead of you there, buddy!

Heavy drinking, or just that unmemorable?
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 14, 2012, 10:48:44 PM
@Eusis: With Tomb Raider delayed now I only have Metal Gear Rising to look forward to. Oh and Gravity Rush, I played part of demo and I'm definitely getting it when I manage to get a Vita.

Maybe I should get around to see this Diablo III thing that everyone is excited about.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Dice on May 15, 2012, 12:32:17 AM
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Forget everything you knew

One step ahead of you there, buddy!

I think the same every time this thread gets bumped.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Desert Walker on June 25, 2012, 08:34:43 AM
Interesting opinion piece (http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/19/opinion-sex-lies-and-tomb-raider) on the controversy over the game's inclusion of a sexual assault scene and the disingenuous response of the developer.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Kevadu on June 25, 2012, 12:19:34 PM
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author=Desert Walker link=topic=8662.msg251640#msg251640 date=1340627683]
Interesting opinion piece (http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/19/opinion-sex-lies-and-tomb-raider) on the controversy over the game's inclusion of a sexual assault scene and the disingenuous response of the developer.

Wow, what a crock of shit that article is.  Sorry, but the developer's response was not disingenuous at all.  That artcle's selective quoting is.

What the developer actually said:
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“Sexual assault of any kind is categorically not a theme that we cover in this game.”

How the author of the article goes on to misquote it:
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To start - don’t show a trailer where a dude pushes a terrified girl against a wall and tries to grab her ass while slobbering all over her neck… then tell us “sexual assault of any kind” isn’t in the game.


The author needs to look up the word 'theme' in the dictionary...

Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Agent D. on June 25, 2012, 01:58:08 PM
I personally loved the trailer and that scene. It was well done and shows something that many movies never do well, a young women being attacked by a bigger threatening man, and fighting for survival. Nothing stupid like some over the top flip over his head and stabbed in the throat, she kicks him in the balls and bites his ear, then goes for the gun and lady luck plays in her favor. Even better, I bought it as real, that it could happen. Why would people fight about it?

Kevadu is also 100% right about that article. I can cut a full quote in half and make it seem like anyone here is a bald faced liar. And yes, a theme isn't one singular scene, it's an idea that would be expressed multiple times throughout a story. When I watch a movie that has a violent theme, it doesn't mean a person gets punched once and the rest of the flick is a laugh fest, it means I should expect a lot of violent moments. Ign needs to stop paying kids in their basement who write terrible fanfictions to write articles for them.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Desert Walker on June 25, 2012, 03:00:05 PM
Just to be fair, the way I read the writer's argument is that the sexual assault is one of the themes of the game because that scene is used to represent one of the defining moments in her transition to the 'Lara Croft we know' personality.  That said, that could be viewed as a pretty weak argument, particularly so as it seems to imply that the writer has inside knowledge of the game, and I have no interest in defending her argument.  I'm more interested in thoughts on the controversy related to that scene and her opening argument/reasoning about how it should be fine for video games to depict a subject like sexual assault if it's done in a mature fashion. (I happen to agree with that and suspect that most members here will, too.)

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It was well done and shows something that many movies never do well, a young women being attacked by a bigger threatening man, and fighting for survival. Nothing stupid like some over the top flip over his head and stabbed in the throat, she kicks him in the balls and bites his ear, then goes for the gun and lady luck plays in her favor. Even better, I bought it as real, that it could happen.

I agree completely with this.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on June 26, 2012, 05:53:27 PM
"British actress Camilla Luddington has been named as the voice and motion-captured body of Lara Croft for the new Tomb Raider game."

(http://images.eurogamer.net/2012/articles//a/1/4/9/4/9/4/8/Camilla_Luddington_photo_2125_Final.jpg.jpg/EG11/resize/300x-1)

"That's her."

Source: Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-06-26-camilla-luddington-portrays-lara-croft-in-new-tomb-raider-game)
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Agent D. on June 26, 2012, 05:59:50 PM
Damn....she's attractive.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on October 23, 2012, 07:26:50 PM
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2uzv8ty.png)

Source: Official Tomb Raider Blog (http://officialtombraiderblog.tumblr.com/post/34168234282/official-tomb-raider-box-art-tomb-raiders-newly)

GameStop Pre-order Exclusive:

・The Challenge Tomb

Amazon.com Pre-order Exclusive(s):

・Exclusive "Hunter Skin"
・The Art of Tomb Raider Amazon Edition
・The Final Hours of Tomb Raider: Director's Cut for Kindle Fire

BestBuy Pre-order Exclusive(s):

・Exclusive "Aviatrix Skin"
・"The Beginning" 48 page hardback comic book

Release date: March 5, 2013.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Desert Walker on December 01, 2012, 05:28:39 PM
New video. (http://youtu.be/L5-W1l9uzko)
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on February 27, 2013, 02:26:39 AM
Tomb Raider PC system requirements revealed! (http://tombraider.tumblr.com/post/43715776565/tomb-raider-pc-system-requirements-revealed)

Lara Croft has a great hair day thanks to TressFX (http://tombraider.tumblr.com/post/44061625318/lara-croft-has-a-great-hair-day-thanks-to-tressfx)

(http://i55.tinypic.com/2psj2fr.png)
(http://i52.tinypic.com/21awpw2.png)

Source: Tomb Raider Blog
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Britton on March 08, 2013, 10:25:33 PM
I LOVE this game. It's a bit short by the looks of it. I probably have 6 hours into it and am 40% done, but it well deserves the good ratings it's getting.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Farron on March 08, 2013, 11:00:28 PM
I beat the game about 30 minutes ago and to make it simple, it's amazing!
I think I'll write a review for it for my blog but just in advance, there were some moments I was so engaged into it I found myself screaming along with Lara and reaching my arms to grab that ledge.
For some reason I decided to play this game using my high end headphones I acquired recently  and the sound is amazing. It's so life like, it really makes you feel you're in that island.

If anyone here is on the fence about getting this game, please, do yourself a favor and get the game, this year just started and I think I already have a candidate for GOTY.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Britton on March 11, 2013, 04:07:01 PM
Just finished it. Game of the year so far for me.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: bigdeath on March 19, 2013, 04:26:39 AM
I just got the game and only got to the M O U N T A I N   V I L L A G E  (apparently the first really large open area). AND DAMN, this game is *bleeping* amazing. The "tutorial" sets the tone for the game. Its intense and keeps you tense with suspense all throughout the game. And the game is SO brutal to poor Lara. I really like how her visuals change based on the beating she takes in each area.

And man does Lara Croft know how to take a beating. I wonder how many times I'm going to ask, how did I live through that? And forget dual pistol, the bow has just become Lara's iconic weapon.

Also, I like how you see Lara go from panicking, to building up her courage, to kicking ass. It makes her seem more real than the standard fearless protagonist we typically see in action video games.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on April 12, 2013, 11:28:08 AM
Square-Enix gouging JP PC players of Tomb Raider: 30$ for JP language pack (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=53650812&postcount=1) -- NeoGAF
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Taelus on April 12, 2013, 12:12:46 PM
oh my.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Annubis on April 12, 2013, 12:47:41 PM
Square-Enix gouging JP PC players of Tomb Raider: 30$ for JP language pack (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=53650812&postcount=1) -- NeoGAF

3.4 million units just wasn't enough. Gotta recoup that money somewhere.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Kevadu on April 12, 2013, 01:49:49 PM
I seriously don't see what people are so up in arms about.  They're just making it cost the same as any other game in Japan.

The real issue here is how bloody expensive games are in Japan, but it's been like that forever...

PS: As an importer I'm seriously glad the value of the yen has taken a nosedive.  Used to be a retail release in Japan could be over $100 after doing the conversion.  Now we're finally back to roughly $1 = 100 yen.

PPS: I reread the NeoGAF thing.  WTF is the OP talking about when he makes it sound like they went out of their way to remove the Japanese voiceovers?  They just stuck to the English because that was what was already there.  The Japanese version of the game isn't out yet, but they're giving people the option to basically get the US version and then patch it to Japanese as soon as that's ready.  Which, pricing aside, is actually pretty cool.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Annubis on April 12, 2013, 02:17:52 PM
I seriously don't see what people are so up in arms about.  They're just making it cost the same as any other game in Japan.

Tomb Raider:
$50, NA: http://store.steampowered.com/app/203160/?cc=us
$50, Japan: http://store.steampowered.com/app/203160/?cc=jp

(Blatantly stolen from GAF)

Your argument doesn't work.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Kevadu on April 12, 2013, 02:24:31 PM
I seriously don't see what people are so up in arms about.  They're just making it cost the same as any other game in Japan.

Tomb Raider:
$50, NA: http://store.steampowered.com/app/203160/?cc=us
$50, Japan: http://store.steampowered.com/app/203160/?cc=jp

(Blatantly stolen from GAF)

Your argument doesn't work.

Wow, way to completely miss the point.  That link you gave is for the English version of the game.  It's the same price in Japan because it's exactly the same game.  In fact that's the whole reason they're doing this patch thing...

Trying comparing it to the price of other Japanese games.  Or the retail release of Tomb Raider for that matter.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Annubis on April 12, 2013, 03:32:33 PM
My apologies; you are right. I didn't put much effort into that search. Tomb raider in Japan does come up to about 90$ US depending on the exchange rate.

If I was Japanese, I'd just play the English version at this point =/
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Agent D. on April 13, 2013, 12:49:48 AM
I thought japanese games generally released at like 5200 yen, or maybe 6800, been a while since I really looked at prices for games I couldn't play in a currency I didn't make.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Ashton on April 13, 2013, 12:58:45 AM
I believe most newly released games are closer to the 9000 yen mark.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: insertnamehere on April 15, 2013, 01:16:12 PM
fanart contest (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/04/14/a-survivor-is-smiling-and-other-tomb-raider-fan-art-from-japan/)
It has some pretty impressive submissions~
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on April 15, 2013, 03:30:10 PM
There was also an art contest in Deviantart (http://ayame-kenoshi.deviantart.com/journal/Tomb-Raider-Reborn-Contest-Winners-362085367).
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Dice on April 16, 2013, 01:08:28 AM
I like how action-packed, America-fuck-yeah!!! the DeviantArt winners are.

Funny enough, the Japanese submissions do nothing for me.  We got moe-Lara-kun and generally look lower-key than the Dev ones, but not exactly impressive either.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Daedalus on April 24, 2013, 09:45:11 AM
I just finished the game, I really enjoyed it and thought it was a great game.  The first couple hours are amazing, hitting its peak when Lara kills her first person.  I was disappointed at the disconnect between Lara being emotionally distraught after killing her first person, and then going on to kill hundreds of people.  Still loved the game though.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on April 24, 2013, 02:36:08 PM
The first couple hours are amazing, hitting its peak when Lara kills her first person.  I was disappointed at the disconnect between Lara being emotionally distraught after killing her first person, and then going on to kill hundreds of people.

Tomb Raider raised a lot of comparisons to the Uncharted series, and both games show that tension of having very life-like and ordinary human characters killing hordes of bad guys. This is a constant tension, and I don't imagine that any one game developer has the magic bullet to just solve it. But how did you work around this? Or do you even see that as a tension that needs to be resolved?

"It is very difficult. I think it is all about the suspension of disbelief that you have when going into a game. It's very difficult to keep that good affable character when they're having to slaughter loads of people. But what we tried to do with Lara was at least have the first death count. As you say, she's uncomfortable with having to do what she needs to do. Those feelings start to bubble to the surface, and she does sort of push them away because she knows she can't think about what she's doing. It will incapacitate her if she does.

But, you know, it does bubble up. Mathias refers to it as well at the end. So what we tried to do there is give her a knowing-ness about what she's doing. Certainly with the first kill having a lot of impact. She went quite a long time without having a weapon. Then there was the bow, and then quite a long time without a gun. There is lots of kills after that. But you can't play the same card over and over again. Every kill cannot be like the first kill."


Source: Kill Screen (http://killscreendaily.com/articles/interviews/tomb-raider-writer-rhianna-pratchett-why-every-kill-cant-be-first-and-why-she-wanted-make-lara-croft-gay/)
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Daedalus on April 25, 2013, 09:37:42 AM
I think that what Tomb Raider did is a good first step.  I would be very interested in a game that only had a handful of kills in it.  Kills that had meaning and an emotional impact on the game.

What if instead of sending 20 guys at you with rifles they had more elaborate tombs?  I found the tombs to be a joke compared to what Assassins Creed has been making in their tombs.

The real question is "Does Tomb Raider NEED to have that combat mechanic?".  When you were done with Tomb Raider what did you think about the next day?  The assault rifle or the story and setting?  What if you just had a bow for hunting wildlife?  I really think there is possibility for some amazing innovation if developers will stray from what has always worked.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: DPB on April 25, 2013, 11:47:17 AM
What if instead of sending 20 guys at you with rifles they had more elaborate tombs?  I found the tombs to be a joke compared to what Assassins Creed has been making in their tombs.

That's what the old games did, even the ones Crystal Dynamics made before were much more focused on exploring tombs than fighting waves of disposable mooks.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Dice on April 25, 2013, 01:46:38 PM
What if instead of sending 20 guys at you with rifles they had more elaborate tombs?  I found the tombs to be a joke compared to what Assassins Creed has been making in their tombs.

That's what the old games did, even the ones Crystal Dynamics made before were much more focused on exploring tombs than fighting waves of disposable mooks.

Man I loved the Ass Creed tomb sequences.  Assassin's raiding Indiana Jones turf was awesome.
Yeah, the Tombs in Tomb-freaking-Raider were usually hilarious 1 or 2 room places that end in her [gasping] (lit. subtitle) over treasure she skims some coins from the top.
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on May 13, 2013, 11:18:15 PM
Spoiled Games: TOMB RAIDER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2UV30wBmZw) -- Rev3Games

"On this episode of Spoiled Games, we're breaking down the 2013 reboot of TOMB RAIDER, one of the most iconic game franchises of all time. How did Crystal Dynamics do in bringing Lara Croft into the modern era? Did the game lose the appeal of the original, or did it end up being better than any of its predecessors? And did it lay a solid foundation for the sequels to come? Find out what Adam Sessler and guests Kirk Hamilton and Tara Long have to say!"
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Klutz64 on August 01, 2013, 08:50:39 PM
Despite the whole "Under performed" thing, Tomb Raider is still getting a sequel! :D

Paragraph 6 (http://eu.square-enix.com/en/blog/note-phil-rogers-ceo)
Title: Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider!
Post by: Yggdrasil on August 13, 2013, 01:10:43 PM
Square Enix's Tomb Raider studio hit by lay-offs (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/08/13/square-enixs-tomb-raider-studio-hit-by-lay-offs/) -- Source: Siliconera

"The latest in Square Enix's ongoing troubles involve lay-offs at Tomb Raider studio Crystal Dynamics, Kotaku are reporting. The staff that were laid off were not working on Tomb Raider, but on a new IP instead."