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31  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs with the best: Story, Characters, Atmosphere, and Plot twists? on: June 11, 2010, 05:30:51 PM
i don't see how ff7 alienated fans.  the nerd battles that take place in forums on which game is better would take place if FF7 never existed.  FF7 is kind of like Micheal Jordan in that kobe and lebron fans don't see what all the fuss was about because they didnt see him play.  so when they want to go around saying kobe's the best there is always someone who says don't forget jordan.

I think FFVII did alienate some existing fans, however today those fans have been completely outnumbered by people who only became fans in the post-FFVII era.

As far as nerd battles not taking place without FFVII, that's total nonsense.  People certainly did argue about whether IV or VI was better back in the day (though we called them II and III back then...).  This isn't even hypothetical; I remember doing it.


no one said they wouldn't take place.  i said they would.  we made the same point
32  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs with the best: Story, Characters, Atmosphere, and Plot twists? on: June 11, 2010, 04:43:52 PM
i wouldn't say that, but i would say it ruined square

In some ways, yes. But Final Fantasy VII wasn't really the game that damage the JRPG scene, Final Fantasy VII just alienated fans all over the fucking place.

...and jrpgs in general.

No. You need to play and read more about RPGs in general to see that right now we are in a great time for RPGs, forget about Square Enix for a minute... you see? there's goods RPGs out there. The problem with Square Enix is the public who's trying to please aren't really RPG players with good taste in games.

They are just, mindless consumers. And that's being kind.


i don't see how ff7 alienated fans.  the nerd battles that take place in forums on which game is better would take place if FF7 never existed.  FF7 is kind of like Micheal Jordan in that kobe and lebron fans don't see what all the fuss was about because they didnt see him play.  so when they want to go around saying kobe's the best there is always someone who says don't forget jordan.
33  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs with the best: Story, Characters, Atmosphere, and Plot twists? on: June 11, 2010, 03:48:18 PM
FFVII has the best story of any game i have ever played.

Final Fantasy VII; The game that ruined the gaming community for ever.


i wouldn't say that, but i would say it ruined square and jrpgs in general.  they seem to have said hmmm, looks like we need a cinematic story to get the success of ff7, and not all the side quests, optional bosses,   and character quests. 

34  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs with the best: Story, Characters, Atmosphere, and Plot twists? on: June 11, 2010, 02:00:10 PM
FFVII has the best story of any game i have ever played.  since then i really like the mass effect1/2 story
35  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Is Square-Enix out of talent? on: June 11, 2010, 01:55:19 PM
Lost Odyssey is what ff13 should have been.  greatest sound track of all time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL-rDuve72I&feature=related
36  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Skies of Arcadia - Should I? on: July 21, 2009, 12:26:06 AM
do you want to experience awesomeness?  if so play the game, on the dreamcast.
37  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: PSX vs PS2 rpg lineup on: July 13, 2009, 01:17:58 AM
I only hated three:

FF8
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia

(I'm noticing a trend)

strange fighting systems?  im betting you hated ff12 too?   FF8 frustrated me because of how you could use the summons.  there was no reason to even use the strange magic system

No, because they were boring.

I actually liked Shadow Hearts, and that has a strange fighting system.

As for FF12, I'm "meh". I did finish it though.


Its easy to get pulled into shadow heart's story with its basis in ww1 era china with horror movie monsters everywhere.  If the story had an unlikeable character like squall in it....
38  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: PSX vs PS2 rpg lineup on: July 12, 2009, 10:29:35 AM
I only hated three:

FF8
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia

(I'm noticing a trend)

strange fighting systems?  im betting you hated ff12 too?   FF8 frustrated me because of how you could use the summons.  there was no reason to even use the strange magic system
39  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: PSX vs PS2 rpg lineup on: July 12, 2009, 12:05:45 AM
I would like to point out to everyone saying the psx graphics put you off to the games should go download epsxe.  This emulatpr has shaders that give ps1 games ps2 level graphics.  Sometimes better.

LOL

ROTFLOL

(just wanted to lok even more confusing than poster above)

40  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: PSX vs PS2 rpg lineup on: July 11, 2009, 05:43:31 PM


also, i find it hard to believe that the people posting in this thread dont already own the best psx rpgs so using epsxe should not be a problem
41  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: PSX vs PS2 rpg lineup on: July 11, 2009, 10:39:33 AM
I would like to point out to everyone saying the psx graphics put you off to the games should go download epsxe.  This emulatpr has shaders that give ps1 games ps2 level graphics.  Sometimes better.
42  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: PSX vs PS2 rpg lineup on: July 07, 2009, 04:07:57 PM
First of all, as someone has already noted, the PSX is not the same as the PS1. The PSX is a PS2 with a DVR in it.

Anyways, PS2 all the way. This thread is just more proof than you can't compete with nostalgia, and I say this as a guy who _still_ buys PS1 RPGs when he finds them (just got Parasite Eve last week!).

Actually the psx was the code name for the playstation.  This is what everyone called the playstation during its life.  It wasn't untill the ps2 that the psx became the ps1.  By not knowing this I wonder if you were there in 95 for the release
Are you really calling me a 14 year old? Because, well, I'm 27. I know damn well what the code name for the PS1 was. Referencing the PS1 as the PSX is stupid and confusing given that there is an actual system called the PSX. Join the rest of us outside the asylum, and call it what it is: the PS1.

The PS1 was great in its day, but the PS2 eclipsed it. Seriously, try playing some of those old PS1 games sometime... design has evolved.


Actually there has never been a system called the ps1.   This is a slang term, with less basis than the psx as the playstation was called psx prior to the name change.

There was a system named PSone released but not ps1.
43  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: PSX vs PS2 rpg lineup on: July 07, 2009, 10:15:21 AM
First of all, as someone has already noted, the PSX is not the same as the PS1. The PSX is a PS2 with a DVR in it.

Anyways, PS2 all the way. This thread is just more proof than you can't compete with nostalgia, and I say this as a guy who _still_ buys PS1 RPGs when he finds them (just got Parasite Eve last week!).

Actually the psx was the code name for the playstation.  This is what everyone called the playstation during its life.  It wasn't untill the ps2 that the psx became the ps1.  By not knowing this I wonder if you were there in 95 for the release
44  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: PSX vs PS2 rpg lineup on: July 07, 2009, 01:42:53 AM
There's also the factor of bringing in other systems, in which case you have the reinforcements of the Saturn library for the PS1 and games like Tales of Symphonia, Paper Mario 2, and even Baten Kaitos for some on the GC while the Xbox has Knights of the Old Republic.

why would you bring in other consoles when comparing the PSX and PS2?

some psx greats:

wild arms 1,2
suikoden 1,2
final fantasy tactics
tales of destiny 1,2
LEGACY OF KAIN
legend of the dragoon
Persona 1,2
Valkyrie Profile
Lunar 1,2
arc the lad collection
breath of fire 3,4
alundra 1,2


45  Media / Single-Player RPGs / PSX vs PS2 rpg lineup on: July 07, 2009, 12:42:52 AM
So who do you believe had the best line up.  The playstation really brought rpgs to the masses, but the ps2 has an overwhelming number of rpgs.

My opinion:

The psx beats the ps2 because of 3 games, all in my top 5 games of all time.

1) FF7 (obviously)
2)xenogears
3)grandia


These 3 games really stand above and beyond any thing that came out on ps2.  The ff series really took a dive in fun factor after 7 with the extremly easy gameplay/poor characters of ff8.  And all most every ps2 game took away the players ability to explore.


I'm currently playing through thousand arms and loving it.  We need a thread were everyone plays an old psx rpg through woth pics or something.  Great times!
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