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Subject: Persona 3: FES
Prize: $20 eShop, PSN or Steam code
Date: 3rd October 2014 Time: 16:00 EST
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16  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Bravely Second on: September 12, 2014, 04:43:53 PM
Let it also be known how ANGRY direct sequels make me when a member from my former  Level 99 party can't get herself out of prison.  Agnes should take STANCE.... Be all "I'VE SLAIN GODS DAMMIT.  ALL DOORS SHOULD BE HALF THEIR HEIGHT SO PEOPLE MUST CRAWL IN ON THEIR KNEES TO SEE ME.  F*** THIS PRISON DETAIL, Y'ALL ARE DEAD TONIGHT"

How many games actually do that?
I hear LoH:TitS does it... and I can't even think of one other.

VP2 is one of the worst offender =/ I mean Lenneth CREATOR is one of the weakest character.

Technically VP2 is in a different timeline where Lenneth went and saved the future from Ganon. Likewise, Covenant of the Plume takes place in the timeline where Lenneth dies (assuming you were at all an asshat).

At least with FFX-2, Yuna does depower due to Summons no longer being a thing which was her thing in FFX. Too bad this does nothing to justify Rikku's depowerment. Even FFXIII-2 was better about it since Lightning starts the game with all six of her ATB segments (which does nothing to save her from disappearing off the face of the game or getting completely chumped off screen as an aside).
17  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: September 12, 2014, 04:24:16 PM
I find it somewhat dubious that the "New 3DS" will fly off the shelves.

Majora's Mask remake exclusive for the New 3DS could be a start.

If they really wanted the system to sell, they'd make the new Ruby&Sapphire remakes exclusive to it.

If they really really wanted to sell systems they would make it so I could hook it up to my tv. How cool would the new model be with audio video out and a little button to change display from screen to screen on the fly?

If they really really really wanted systems to the sell, they would've made it in the first place and save everyone the trouble of having to buy multiple systems, and also so it could be around long enough for 3rd party devs to have been making games for it for more than a month.
18  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Bravely Second on: September 12, 2014, 08:07:22 AM

So we've got some deets on The Three Musketeers, an Indian (Native American kind) Princess(?), and a feature that lets Anges tell you how unacceptable something/one is/was/will be.
19  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: TGS 2014 General Discussion on: September 12, 2014, 07:49:08 AM

More TGS line ups and http://gematsu.com/2014/09/summer-lesson-project-morpheus-demo-pulled-tgs

Creepy Waifu Simulator being pushed back to a separate event so that most of TGS's participants won't crowd around the one kiosk and ignore the rest of Bamco's offerings.
20  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Random and Amazing Pictures, Please! on: September 12, 2014, 07:36:15 AM

I laughed, I'm a terrible person.

I'm willing to accept this as canon, hell it might as well have happened given the nature of that show. "Lulouche Vi Britannia commands you to 'Follow your nose!'!"
21  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Community Quiz Quiz Show! on: September 12, 2014, 07:28:17 AM
I'm closing the poll on September 13th. Not a hell of a lot of votes so far, but Persona 3:FES is winning.

On the plus side, at least its not VLR.

Also, I see that you've got the Newsbox up and running so that should help (although not for dodging the bullet on more Persona Spam).

Come on guys! Lets build S-Ranks, not S-Links!

I have no direct control over it. I couldn't HTML my way out of a paper bag, so I rely on other editors to help me. Prism Flux is once again my hero.

Nah man, I wasn't criticizing you. I was just making a note of it in case someone failed to notice the change.
22  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: kotaku article on what FFXV means to the future of JRPGs... on: September 12, 2014, 07:20:42 AM
To say the the entirety of console gaming rests with a single game is ridiculous hyperbole and nothing more.

Tabata was referring to consoles still being a viable platform in Japan in the future. He's not wrong saying that XV is potentially one deciding factor of all that.

IIRC wasn't FF7 praised as one of the things that made the PSX as popular as it was?

FFVII's biggest role during that era was drawing the market's attention to the PSX where the gaming market's primary demographic saw them as the hip new cool kid on the block with stuff like Tomb Raiders 1 & 2 and Resident Evil 2 to keep them around the yard. Although, what really helped Sony was the fact that Nintendo was betting too conservatively to the point of undercutting themselves and Sega deciding that the greatest foe to battle and slay was itself (or specifically its western head, which it lopped off with extreme prejudice).
23  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: "X" by Monolith (now named Xenoblade Chronicles X) on: September 12, 2014, 07:04:36 AM
I liked Xenosaga...

Even Xenosaga 2, flawed as it was, had its own charm.

I would've liked 1 if the battles weren't slow as molasses due to everything having stupidly long attack animations and the game's soundtrack was ever used beyond two battle tracks, one action track, three 'ambient' tracks, that one browsing the internet track, and everything else being loaded into whatever cutscene they find or just straight up cut.

2 and 3 I have no personal experience with, but the series by that point had been hijacked by Namdai, so it pretty much turned into a massive clusterfuck anyways.

Which is why I find this so massively hilarious that anybody would want to revisit this series, even for an HD port. Especially since both Blade exists and Blade X is on the way (and honestly, I kinda figured that Blade X was more or less going to be the closest thing to Saga HD anyways; at the very least I'm planning to make a KOS-MOS-alike MC).
24  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed on: September 12, 2014, 06:51:55 AM
I was thinking about importing it.  If I import it that means it will get localized ;)

Some games I've imported in the last few years:
Akiba's Strip 2: Did anyone actual expect this to be localized?  I certainly didn't.
Ar Nosurge: OK, so Gust games are usually localized but after missing Ciel Nosurge I was skeptical that we would get this one.
Senran Kagura Shinobi Versus: Before any Senran Kagura games had even been hinted that they would be localized.  I didn't actually expect that franchise to make it over here.
Project Diva f: I really didn't expect this to ever be localized.  I was shocked when Sega suddenly decided to release it here.
Final Fantasy Type-0: It's a Final Fantasy game so I think we all expected it to come at some point, but Square Enix was sure taking their sweet time...
Grisaia no Kajitsu: This is a friggin visual novel, and not a terribly well-known one at that.  Yet it's getting localized...

See, I'm seriously starting to think that anything I import will be localized...

Right, but two of those are Marvelous which seems to have realized just how much of an untapped market the West is for particularly Japan-y games, one is from Koei Temco who's only major localization requirements include not getting their profits gobbled up by localization requirements and the game itself not being a nearly unplayable broke ass piece of shit, one had a fanslation for about a day, and one's a VN. Of them all, only Project Diva f shares the same "Its from Sega" trait as Shining Resonance and that was more of a market test than anything. The rest you could've at least sat on your hands long enough for them to get localized (or at least until you forget about their existence).

I mean, come on, wasn't the last big non Sonic/non Hatsumi Miku Sega release recently was Project X Zone? And that was localized more by Atlus than anyone actually represented in the game.
25  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: "X" by Monolith (now named Xenoblade Chronicles X) on: September 11, 2014, 03:20:45 PM
Although not Xenoblade Chronicles X, but I still think this news is awesome sauce. Make it happen RPGfans:


This is the most ridiculous thing.
26  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: September 11, 2014, 03:20:07 PM
I came here to talk about the gorgeous looking 3ds model that has me reeling with jealousy toward those, unlike I, who can enjoy a handheld. Seriously, that has to be the coolest LE model system I've yet to see. The drawback is obviously no game which is such a joke. I mean who the hell is gonna shell out 200 for that and NOT buy the game? I call shenanigans.

What I am leaving with? An itch to play Lufia 2... (thanks Aeolus!) LoL

I might care if I didn't already get myself that sweet FE:Awakening 3DS, but the Persona Q one is actually fairly comparable in terms of slickness.
27  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed on: September 11, 2014, 03:17:34 PM
I know this is off-topic, but why are you guys down on Shining Resonance?

You mean beyond the whole 'condemned to import hell' part?

Probably the fact that the gameplay seems to be the only thing really going for it, which doesn't do me a hell of a lot of good out here in Not-Japan, USA. I was surprised by the whole "MC is a fuckin' Dragon" which is a fair bit more interesting than "Mr. Generic A. McSwordsdude shows up, fights some dudes, and gets all the chicas" like virtually all the other Tony Taka Shining games fall into. Then it turned out that the Dragon is a fuckin' Mr. Generic A. McSwordsdude so its right back to the bottom of my 'fucks given' list.

So yeah, pretty much the 'condemned to import hell' part.
28  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Super Smash Bros. Namdai on: September 11, 2014, 03:06:11 PM
And its done. As such fate of many other legends, the legend of the Final Five shall remain as just that. A legend, and nothing more (unless the game is somehow bullshitting the hell out of players or DLC comes along).

The Mega Leak did indeed contain the full roster and stage list. The final playable cast includes:

- Mario
- Luigi
- Peach
- Bowser
- Yoshi
- Rosalina
- Bowser Jr (and Koopa Kids alts)
- Wario
- Mr. Game and Watch
- Donkey Kong
- Diddy Kong
- Link
- Zelda
- Shiek
- Ganondorf
- Toon Link
- Samus
- Zero Suit Samus
- Pitt
- Palutena
- Marth
- Ike
- Robin
- Kirby
- King Dedede
- Meta Knight
- Little Mac
- Fox
- Falco
- Pikachu
- Charizard
- Lucario
- Jigglypuff
- Greninja
- Duck Hunt Dog
- Ness
- Captain Falcon
- Villager
- Pikmin and Olimar (or Alph)
- WiiFit Trainer
- Doctor Mario
- Dark Pitt
- Lucina
- Shulk
- Pac Man
- Mega Man
- Sonic
- Mii Fighters
- And the Random Character slot
29  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Community Quiz Quiz Show! on: September 11, 2014, 04:24:46 AM
I'm closing the poll on September 13th. Not a hell of a lot of votes so far, but Persona 3:FES is winning.

On the plus side, at least its not VLR.

Also, I see that you've got the Newsbox up and running so that should help (although not for dodging the bullet on more Persona Spam).

Come on guys! Lets build S-Ranks, not S-Links!
30  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: A Game Journal Reborn on: September 11, 2014, 04:16:36 AM
I thinking of starting Valkyrie Profile 2, since I've had it sitting on my shelf unplayed for too many years now. Do I need to worry about missing bigs chunks of the game again if I don't consult an FAQ, or can I just play it through it normally like any other game?

In addition to the above, you'll want to make a beeline for certain Sealed Stones since there are a lot of them and many are expensive to unlock since those Exp Magic Crystals generated during fights are the currency (i.e. those purple crystal thingies, not the purple orbs; they are counted at the end of a fight) and you'll be lucky to get more than 10 a fight without going for Direct Assaults. The Stones you'll want to make for are:

Sword Blessing (1.2* Attack to either side) 150 Crystals
Gold Blessing (1.5* Oht/Gold to player) 500 Crystals
Chasm Wrath (RDM & RST halved to either side) 4000 Crystals
Lifeforce Blessing (Doubles Healing to either side 2000 Crystals
Experience Friend Law (1/6th earned Exp distributed to non active party members) 4000 Crystals
Ore Blessing (Increases number of Purple Orbs to player) 4000 Crystals
Treasure Blessing (slows Extend gauge; makes getting Direct Assaults easier to player) 400 Crystals
Experience Pig Law (Doubles Exp gain + No Oth/Gold to player) 1200 Crystals
Gold Grubber Law (Triples Oth/Gold + No Exp gain to player) 1200 Crystals
Sharp Sword Law (1.5* Attack + RDM halved to either side) 2000 Crystals

Additional Stones that are situationally useful include:

Wrath of Forcefulness (Triple Attack + 1/5 chance to break a weapon to player) 500 Crystals
Sleipnir's Blessing (Evade Up to either side) 1500 Crystals
Gem Blessing (No Purple Crystals/Orbs + Increased Item Drop rate to player) 1000 Crystals
Holy Blessing (2* Holy Damage + Dark Damage Halved to either side) 1000 Crystals
Elusive Air Law (Cannot enter into combat by contact alone; you must strike with your sword first) 2500 + 10000 Crystals
Paper Tiger Blessing (1.5* Attack & Magic when HP is full to either side) 800 Crystals
Six Elements Blessing (+20% Elemental Resist to either side) 2000 Crystals
Desperate Soldier Law (1.5* Attack + Cannot Heal in battle to either side) 1500 Crystals

The general idea is that you'll want to go for things that can only really benefit the player (enemies have no need for Exp and Gold) and to eventually stack everything into Attack, Evade, and Elemental Resistance so that you can end fights as fast as possible (besides Reduce Damage becomes less useful as time goes on anyways, so why not completely abandon it to maximize your own DPS and work on turning yourself into dodge tanks).

As for what to do with your Einherjar, the quick and dirty rule is: Is s/he Kraad? If Yes, then stack up with the best gear you can buy, give him five levels, and dismiss him. If No, do not dismiss.

The reason for this is that most Einherjar can provide items or money to you during the course of the early game (up to about Chapter 5 depending on the Einherjar), however all said and done, most of them are kinda crap (although Mithra is kind of an exception, but only 'kinda' and there's the reason I'm about to go into). The real reason why you want to hold off on releasing your Einherjar is that when they depart they also give you a bunch of stat boosters based on their stats at the time of departure, these stats do not distinguish between bases and stats gained from equipment and later on in the game, some of that vendor fodder gets real good (the other reason is that Chapter 5 and onward is the Alicia/Rufus comedy hour, so having a couple of warm bodies around to fill the party is a good thing). As for Kraad, the dude hands you his Sword, the "Kraadicator" which is the best 2-H Sword you'll see for a long time to come (roughly Chapter 5 if you didn't bother with the gamebreaking bullshit).

That said, now I'm in World 5 of Supra Mario (I was only in World 4 before).
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