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3496  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: November 07, 2012, 08:23:15 PM
Didn't the GBA version also fix most of the bugs that FFVI had?

They fixed the Evade glitch (Blind is finally a status effect) and I think they banned Gogo from the Merit Award this time (no more Wind Gods), but you can still make Cyan go batshit insane, rock General Leo for the floating continent without the need for external devices like Game Shark, and Relm's Sketches will still break the game in the literal way.

Additionally now you can give everyone Ragnaroks and Illuminas through legit means rather than item duplication (which you can still do), learn Mog's Water Rondo dance in the WoR, and have an esper provide a Speed +2 bonus rather than needing to keep Odin (still doesn't make grinding speed worth it though).

Really the only meaningful changes were the Translation (good), the usual ROM Hack bonus dungeons (because Squeenix heard that you weren't grinding enough), and the tinny and poorly compressed audio quality and washed out color pallet (bad).
3497  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: November 07, 2012, 05:09:29 AM
How are the load times on the PSN version?  Never actually tried it.  I know that was a definite issue with the PSX version, but with the PSN version it's been read off the HD instead of a very slow CD-ROM drive.

Exactly the same since it was a problem with the way it was emulated rather than a technical limitation of the PSX. It's the same with every other PSX port of a Squaresoft game.
3498  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Dragon Quest VII coming to 3DS (Japan) in Feb. on: November 07, 2012, 12:24:04 AM
As far as I know the Super Famicom versions are the best versions of the first three games that you are gonna find. Those has not been released outside of Japan but I think there are some fan translations, I'm not sure though.

I really wish they'd bring over the Dragon Quest Anniversary Collection. The Loto trilogy in both NES and SuperNES versions? Yes please.
3499  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days on: November 06, 2012, 07:29:41 PM
I'm not going to lie and say that there isn't anything wrong with FFVI (Thasama REALLY needed to be located closer to the middle of the WoB rather than at the tail end of it) but for the most part its lack of a definitive main character really helps it out (by which I mean nobody's permanently welded into the party leader position like in there is in most JRPGs; probably to try to hide the fact that the 'main' character is a grrl which continues to be an incredibly rare occurrence, especially when not treated in a derogatory manner ala Neptunia and the like). Instead you basically have free reign over your party load out for most of the game (outside of events where everybody's scattered across the globe) so if you got tired of Terra's pursuit to understand the virtues of becoming the perfect Japanese housewife you could dump her ass and spend some time hanging with Mr. 'Suplexed A Motherfucking Train' Sabin, Mr. 'Imagine Me Breaking This Game Over My Knee. Forever' Edgar, Mr. 'Oh I'm Sorry. Were You Wearing That?' Locke, and Mr. 'Thou' Cyan.

Strange, I always thought Celes was the main character. Well, I guess that's the beauty of it, it's one of the few, if only, RPGs that's definitely a full cast story. Final Fantasy games often have very strong central casts though: FF7, FF9, FFX, and FFXII all have some ambiguity over the lead, even if they feature an iconic young male hero. But FF6 is the only one where it's completely ambiguous.

Really, the only claim Terra has to being lead is the fact that the game begins with her. From there, she becomes part of the team. As the game progresses, she becomes more distant, and leaves for hours at a time. It becomes more "about her" then "from her perspective", while others take the reigns. Locke always remains a strong second, but always second, and second to who? For the middle third, it felt like Celes took over for Terra (which has some out-of-game significance, since they were originally the same character during development). Then, in the second half, it's COMPLETELY thrust into Celes' hands, while Terra & Locke are the dead last characters to rejoin the party.

As for Terra's story, I rather liked what they did. They originally set her up as some sort of romanic lead, being female alongside a male hero, and questioning her ability to love. But they did a 180 and instead of going for the easy romantic epiphany, she learns to "love" a group of children that she cares for. I thought that was pretty big of them. Actually, kinda opposite of the "perfect Japanese housewife"... it's closer to her becoming a nun. There's a slight hint of romance between Locke and Celes, and maybe a tinge between Edgar and Terra, by virtue of him being a horny bastard, but any romance tends to hinge more around exploring the characters' troubled past than trying to create some titillating love train. By the end, you see Locke as a broken, but recovering character who has a long way to go before any thought of romance is even possible. Characters are left happy, but the ending doesn't bring everyone together or set them up for "happily ever after".

My god, what a perfect game.

Originally Terra (or Tina in Japan) and Celes were the same character before they were split into the two they are now. In fact their names reflect this as Celestina was a reference to the name of an old Spanish(?) romance novel. Also both female leads spend large stretches of time plot incapacitated during the WoB segment (as Celes gets knocked out of the plot near the end of the Magitek Factory sequence, doesn't really show up until the awkward Crescent Island sequence, and doesn't properly join up again until you're making your escape from the Floating Continent).

Plus both Locke and Terra can join as soon as you retrieve the Falcon just like everybody who isn't named Celes, Edgar, Setzer, Sabin (provided you bothered with Tzen beforehand), Shadow (provided you didn't wait for him during the escape from Witch Mountain the Floating Continent), Strago (needs Relm to rerecruit him), or Umaro (needs Mog to recruit him), although the plot directs you towards Cyan as soon as you first take off, and you might have stumbled across Terra if you took the detour down Serpent's Trench instead of up it, plus you might get your ass kicked if you try taking on the Phoenix Cave right after getting the Falcon (also the plot doesn't really point you towards it unless you find the hidden letter at Owser's Manor). But what really cinches it is that Celes can be replaced by a crappy Moogle named Kutan (also Terra will force herself into the ending sequence regardless as to whether you recruited her or not).
3500  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Disney Buys Lucasfilm on: November 05, 2012, 02:53:54 PM
I'm optimistic about the series. If Disney gets the right director and script then Star Wars may be great again. Lucas seemed to lose his zeal in the prequals, or had too much control.

He lost his zeal and replaced it with stubborn adherence to awful ideas. I think the original movies were more a product of someone keeping him in check and vetoing flagrantly awful ideas.

But I agree. I'm very optimistic now.

I was under the impression that he wanted to pander more to younger audiences by watering everything down. From making Greedo shoot first, to arming the government with Walkie Talkies to assist in taking down ET, and reducing the body count in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull by having Indy pull off a pacifist run (Iji style thankfully), to pretty much the entirety of Episode 1's bullshit.
3501  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Chrono Trigger on Android on: November 05, 2012, 02:24:00 PM
There were more versions of FFIV by the GBA port then there are of FFIII now.

FFIII:
NES (original)
DS (crappy remake)
PSP (port of crappy remake)
Kindle (port of the port of the crappy remake)

FFIV:
Super Famicom (original)
SuperNES USA (easytype)
PSX (Final Fantasy Chronicles port of original)
Wonderswan Color (buggy and condensed port of the original)
GBA (port of the WSC port)

And that's not including the versions that came afterwards like the DS remake or the PSP collection or any of the VCs/PSStores versions.


Lunar. Lunar has been ported waaay more than CT. GAME OVER MAN, GAME OVER.

Seriously though, CT is awesome. Glad the android gang can get in on it.

CT:
SuperNES (original)
PSX (Final Fantasy Chronicles)
DS (first to include bonus dungeons)
Wii VC (of the original)
PSOne Classics (of the FFC emulation)
Android (current)

Lunar:
SegaCD (original)
PSX (Silver Star Story Complete)
GBA (Legend sudo-remake)
PSP (Harmony of Silver Star)
iPhone/Pad/Piece of whatever (current)

Although if you don't count the various VCs and PSStores then yes, Lunar holds more remakes by one iteration.
3502  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: They're discontinuing Buckyballs! on: November 04, 2012, 03:05:27 PM
The US puzzles me. It seems like you guys are trying to ban everything from Soda to toys because of the potential harm they may cause. I even heard that microwaves have a safety label on them after some woman tried to dry her cat in one, then there was that whole "sue McDonalds for having hot coffee" business. Yet, somehow you guys still insist on having easily accessible guns and wonderful products like this. Because that's obviously the safest place for your shotgun to be, at arms reach for sleepy papa, little Timmy and even Fido. I know the world is full of absurd crap like this, but I just don't get it.

The sueing for the hot coffee was legit. They should have been sued, not because the woman spilled it on herself, but because of the temperature of the coffee. They kepted the coffee as such a scalding heat, that the lady who spilled it on her lap had her flesh practically melt off. I saw a picture of the damage, not a pretty sight.

Indeed it was.  She had tons of first degree burns and had to have many skingraph surgeries to repair her skin.  To this day, I would bet the majority of Americans still mistakenly believe it was a frivolous lawsuit thanks to all the news this case received back then.  There's a documentary about it and similar cases, I'm pretty sure.

And there's another problem right there. The damages were real and so was the lady's case but not only did McDonald's try to downplay the incident as a mere frivolous lawsuit but the media sided with them in perpetuating the misconception. Even though the judge got to make the call on that one the truth of the matter was lost to a lot of people.

Also the soda ban is fairly different in that it's a state level decision and not a national one. You can easily (metaphorically speaking) head to New Jersey to grab a Big Gulp (of seawater).
3503  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: They're discontinuing Buckyballs! on: November 03, 2012, 03:41:40 PM
what is gandalf doing in jail

Caught with pipeweed and intent to distribute

More like he falsely inducted average citizens into the Burglars Guild causing all sorts of administrative mayhem (and a couple of wars) in the process.
3504  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Wii U to be 299/349$ and controllers ~175$ on: November 03, 2012, 05:24:29 AM
I blame Skrillex.

Little did Ted Simpson know, his plan of creating a killer computer virus to destroy the Eastern Seaboard would be thwarted by a killer hurricane and shoddy programming.
3505  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: super robot wars original generations 2 for ps3 on: November 02, 2012, 03:19:08 PM
I don't know. I thought it demonstrated supports well by having a support bot/spirit battery/Gundam Hucklebein duct taped to a battleship hanging around patching up Ibis after her failures to dodge the weakest of grunts in the seat of what is probably one of the more dodgy Reals of the prior games.

Either way it's at least better than Ryusei's route in OG1 where its just Elzam soloing less than a handful of Aerogater bugs out in space in his Trombe.
3506  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: super robot wars original generations 2 for ps3 on: November 02, 2012, 04:26:18 AM
That was kind of underwheming compared to the Z2-2 prologue.

To be fair though, Z2-2's prologue was a bunch of series' season 1's finales playing out one after the other. You'd be hard pressed to find anything that isn't underwhelming compared to that.
3507  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: November 02, 2012, 04:22:02 AM
So between Something Awful being on a Lurker :frogout: kick lately and seeing Level 5 having their 'Other M' moment with Gundam AGE I decided to pay a visit to the LP Archives and run through the Dark Cloud 2 LP just to see if one of their more highly regarded games also suffers from atrocious writing and blatant misogyny as pretty much everything else they've done did. It does.

In all honesty I went through most of the LP assuming that Max(the main character)'s mom was going to die after spending the entire game as his metaphorical carrot on a stick like a cheap piece of drama fodder and I'll give them credit for not killing her off (not that she wasn't ripped away from Max for the sake of cheap melodrama). Of course, she didn't need to when EVERY GODDAMN VILLAIN IN THE GODDAMN GAME DID (save for the Russian Mafia Clown from the beginning who simply gets jobbed like a cheap piece of comic relief and the Bonus Boss who's only purpose is to be the bonus boss). There seriously wasn't a goddamn fight with these guys that didn't come laden with melodramatic flashbacks and death speeches and all of them were nothing but one-dimensional villainous caricatures with obligatory villainous monologues and rants as their only development prior (except for the first fight with the villain that killed Monica(the female character)'s dad which ended with somebody else dying and giving the requisite flashbacks and death speeches instead, and the Rocker Doctor who just got hauled off to sea by the game's Larpas tribe but got his requisite sob story relayed by his descendent in his stead). And worse still is that both Gaspard (the guy who offs Monica's dad at the beginning) and later Emperor Griffon (the big bad; but not the BIG big bad) both pull the exact same maternal abandonment issues that Max's been pulling since the very start of the game except they were shunned (boo hoo :qqsay:) which is why they immediately turned to "Rarr! I must destroy the world! Rarr!" despite said maternal figures advising otherwise (and given that Max is deprived of his mother too because she's a selfish whore who had to do the nasty in the pasty but conveniently cannot stay due to belonging in the future, he's likely to be Dark Cloud 3's big bad (but not BIG big bad because he needs to turn out to be sympathetic and misguided too) if Dark Cloud 3 ever gets made (god forbid)).

And then there's Monica, the other protagonist, who's entire role in the game can be summed up in five points.
- She's a magical, time-traveling, princess, from the future.
- Who's holding the Triforce of Wisdom blue plot macguffin that enables travel to the past.
- And is out to avenge her father by Grrr-ing at the current antagonist.
- Also to exposition at the latest plot objective like a tour guide.
- And to serve as the 'second' protagonist (i.e. a mechanical upgrade to Dark Cloud 1's solo adventure).

Although by the end of the game.
- She's strictly inferior to Max in every way outside of her ranged weapon's homing feature.
- And stops moonlighting as a tour guide the moment somebody else shows up to correct her or Max points out the obvious.
- Plus she's the first to forgive anybody who brings up a sudden sob story regardless of what they might have taken from her.
- And she loses her plot macguffin (and so does Max) because good is dumb and evil will always triumph.
- Not like it matters anyways since Max can and will travel back in time without her or her macguffin (and the plot forces you to do this for a plot coupon at one point).

And while I could go on all night ranting about the plot holes, the establishing and the subsequent breaking/ignoring/bullshitting of the setting's rules, the dumb plot twists, the blatant copying of Zelda series/generic fairy tale elements/tropes, mechanics that favor Max over Monica, the myriad of convenient contrivances, pretty much everything that happens at the end of chapter 5, all of chapter 7, and the nothing that happens at chapter 4 I'm just going to leave it on the note that the game left it on as the story was all just a dream (or was it? :tinfoil:).


The TL:DR is that Level 5 REALLY needs to get bought out and gutted for their technical talent as that's the only worthwhile thing about them. I'd check out Jenne De Arc but I have neither access to a copy or LP of it.
3508  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Dragon Quest VII coming to 3DS (Japan) in Feb. on: November 02, 2012, 01:56:34 AM
Or the DS version of Dragon Quest IV, although that was more of a good port of the mediocre PSX remake. With an over-the-top yet gutted translation.

Fixed.

Now its fixed.

Because seriously, Chapter 6 was unnecessary and diminished Psaro's character arc by giving him a cheap out. Though that's not to say it was a terrible port since it was still worth it just to get the Chapter 5 party off AI control.

Also what the fuck are Bairns and where can I find them? [/rhetorical question]
3509  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: super robot wars original generations 2 for ps3 on: November 02, 2012, 01:40:55 AM
Has SRW finally upgraded their cutscenes to DBZ grade transit chattering or will this just be a one off deal? Find out next time on SRW.

Also, this just in; Ibis still sucks.
3510  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Random and Amazing Pictures, Please! on: November 01, 2012, 02:09:47 PM
There aren't enough 8s between the two of them. They need at least three more to achieve eight 8s.
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