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3631  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: July 14, 2012, 09:11:19 AM
This is the kind of thing that could completely derail the thread. If you care enough to post about that find an appropriate thread or start one.

I still don't get why so many people get so stressed talking about this topic, but either way I'm not going to start anything. I was just saying.

That's because of two things. A) The matter has been prevalent throughout all of human history and we're no closer to addressing the issue than we were back when we were living in caves and B) Because humans are incredible assholes by nature.

The fact of the matter is that humans simply love to draw lines between things no matter how arbitrary the differences between those two things are. And there are differences between males and females, even today there's no way to get around this (especially since modern medicine is little better than the stuff we had back when we were bleeding people out to purge them of evil spirits). And no matter what a person's intention's might be in drawing that line, we're still drawing that line with the idea that those on the side I'm on should get or have gotten the better deal and the other side 'needs our help'/'can die in a fire'.

Basically the matter of equality can only be resolved when we cease to be human.

Anyways, there was a thread made not too long ago that tackled this issue and the matter really should be moved there for future reference.
3632  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Random and Amazing Pictures, Please! on: July 13, 2012, 11:43:25 AM


So where does his role as Shark Bait from Deep Blue Sea land?

He didn't even get off even one speech before 'suddenly gibed by scientifically modified shark'.
Wrong black guy sir, that was Samuel L. Jackson. Though in keeping with the questioning, where in the hierarchy is his wanted role? The man played god...unlike in Bruce and Evan Almighty where he actually played God.

Really? Fuck! I really need to rewatch that movie again. That was a hilarious movie.

That said, I will argue that his role of Narrator in March of the Penguins should be put between God and the US President.
3633  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Random and Amazing Pictures, Please! on: July 13, 2012, 03:30:48 AM


So where does his role as Shark Bait from Deep Blue Sea land?

He didn't even get off even one speech before 'suddenly gibed by scientifically modified shark'.
3634  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Seven years later, School Days is localized on: July 13, 2012, 03:22:18 AM
School Days is mostly just famous for its numerous violent bad ends.  Otherwise it's pretty unremarkable.

Still, there have actually been more and more VNs being localized lately.  Not just from Jast, but MangaGamer has been doing a lot.  All on the PC, of course, which means a lot (but not all) of them are eroge.  I'm actually pretty psyched about Ef getting localized.

Of course a lot of high-profile companies like 5pb have yet to get on board with English VN releases...

It's not so much the bad ends as it is the effect of having people randomly come up to the series thinking its just another boring ass VN and then "HOLY SHIT! WTF!?! WHY DO YOU KEEP DOING THAT YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT PROTAGONIST!?!?! DON'T YOU SEE THAT THIS WILL ONLY END BADLY!!!!! *nice boat* FUUUUUUUU---".

But otherwise its basically just another generic VN that actually manages to reach the harem genre's logical conclusion for once.
3635  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Seven years later, School Days is localized on: July 13, 2012, 12:14:30 AM
I wonder what the sales will be like.

Probably enough to afford a 'nice boat'.
3636  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: .Hack on: July 12, 2012, 11:48:06 PM
.hack games were generally boring as shit, because they took the narrative for one game and spread it out among three or four, with pointless padding and inane gameplay.

Quoted for truth. The sites you had to unlock with Virus Cores definitely qualified as needless padding.

In addition to that, you're not even introduced to the big bad for the original quadilogy until literally moments before the credits roll on the first game (and I mean you just see the guy just before he pwns your ass and you have to make an emergency bail, then the credits roll and its on to the next $30 for a used copy game). Its like playing through FFVII right up until president Shinra's death and then bam, credits and a message to go pay $30~50 for disk two.
3637  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Anime/Manga Journal on: July 12, 2012, 12:59:10 PM
I remember when I first watched the last part of the Tenchi movie and being utterly confused as to what was going on in this cartoon(?) on late night SciFi. The important thing to note was that this predated Toonami or any other convenient source for cable anime (that wasn't horribly mangled in order to hide the Japanese serial numbers at least).

It didn't help things by the movie taking itself as seriously as it did since I knew of the series's humor.

Also fuck Tenchi Muyo for popularizing the harem genre, which led to the arms race of promiscuity which has since resulted in the creation of moe.
3638  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: July 12, 2012, 03:24:35 AM
The environments are really beautiful in Xenoblade. Really encourages you to explore them. I just got through the marsh area with the glowing trees, loved the color scheme. Now in that cave with all the glowing green stuff, very cool.

Also has anyone ever completed all the side-quests in this game?? It seems almost impossible, I dont even try at this point or else I would get nowhere

Yeah, there are so many of em.  Some of em are worthwhile to do to level up your affinity with that particular town/faction.  Some towns need a level 4 or sometimes 5 affinity before quests to unlock new talent trees appear.  Pain in the ass, really.  Currently deciding if I want to go back to Colony 9 or not to level it up to 4 so I can get Shulk's.

Which quest net's you that? I've already got Colony 9's affinity up to 4 stars and I've seen nothing in regards to that.


Desiree's future.  Pre-req is Jackson's Awakening.  Shulk must be party leader.

Ah-ha. Then I guess I'll need to put Shulk out in front next time I play.

Required finishing up the Lantern quest but Shulk is now pessimistic as all get out (well okay, not really since he's still working for that Crafting Bonus) and Desiree's now in the army.
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(Also, poor Desiree. I think I may have bumped into your father recently. I can tell because of the really large hammer that he carried, along with his handiness with machines.)
3639  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Random and Amazing Pictures, Please! on: July 12, 2012, 03:12:14 AM


Neither of those people look like Keith Richards. >:( X
3640  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Recently watched Episodes of TELEVISION BOX offerings! on: July 12, 2012, 03:09:50 AM
Futurama Trip Repor: Episode Four. I'll admit it, due to Comedy Central's constant schedule shuffling shenanigans being on par with Adult Swim's schedule shuffle truffle I missed most of this episode. At least I got to see Zapp get gut punched by Lelia's father twice and the comic stylings of Nixon and the clone of Agnu.
3641  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: .Hack on: July 12, 2012, 02:39:49 AM
I too am guilty of not seeing this series through.... I indulged the first two way back when and really enjoyed them, but never got back to the series.... It bothers me too as I dropped major coinage to complete the collection and have all 7 of them sitting on my shelf, every so often subtly beckoning me.... Any-hoo from what I did experience I'd have to say I am of the "not bad for its day, but there are certainly better choices to commit my time too" pursuasion now....

However, Aeolus really got me thinking now.... if one were to want to enter the universe of .hack, what we be the best order of operation...? Anime first? Manga? Game 1, then anime? I mean how does the anime work out? Is it prequel narrative for any of the games or a retelling of the games themselves? Depending on the case, does it suffice to watch it then jump into one of the latter titles? If anyone knows I'd love to hear.... or is there just so much media I should google/wiki it and get my ducks in order from there?

You're probably better off googling/wiking it since there's a lot of ground to cover and much of it is stuck in Japan. But if you're hell bent on getting into the series the first quadilogy would likely be the safest bet in terms of understanding the basic set up/plot. I say this because while the GU trilogy is superior gameplaywise you're going to be missing out on the whole deal with its lead protagonist. You'd have to at least go through the GU prequel anime 'Roots' to see the whole main character arc for GU's MC and that only covers his incarnation as that particular character (because just like real life characters in the series can have multiple player characters, although only one at a time). To get the lowdown on GU's MC's previous PC you'd have to go through both the original quadilogy's prequel anime 'Signs' as well as at least the first game of said quadilogy (incidentally there are 'Signs' characters that show up by the fourth game and of course, you've going to have to slog through that boring anime to get the lowdown on them). Thankfully you don't have to go through the other anime that made it out of Japan 'Legend of the Twilight Bracelet' nor its manga adaptation. I think the same applies for the light novel series that came out but I'm not sure, but there is a manga version of GU so you'll probably want to go through that. And that about covers the stuff that came out of Japan, have fun with the language barrier and the blind idiot translations for the rest of it.

Or don't because the series just isn't worth it. A lot of it is disconnected anyway so there isn't a real need to slog through most of it (and you will slog if you go anywhere near the pre-GU content).

E:F;B.
3642  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Playstation 1 RPGs on: July 11, 2012, 12:07:54 PM
A brief aside since I am hoping to start playing Suikoden soon. how bad does the story fall off after 2? I have heard its a rather steep drop.

There's a generation long time skip between 2 and 3 but otherwise 3 is the final game on the Suki timeline. 4, Tactics, and 5 are all prequels that take place roughly 150 or so years in the past, if you play 4 then you've got to play Tactics since that's where they put most of the plot for 4 in.
3643  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Creating characterization through battle on: July 11, 2012, 12:04:23 PM
i love characterization through battle but i dont understand why they keep making final fantasy games where everyone can do everything. thats why i liked FFX everyone had defined roles.

At some point in the game, cant all characters learn the same things, and thus become interchangeable? I may be remembering that wrong though.

And about the Tales discussion earlier, this is what's great about unique characters, the fact that we can even talk about them like this. Even if not done totally right, they at least have enough character to spark conversation.

They can if you're willing to grind for it. In fact that's the reason why Kimari sucks so much (aside from being the series's worst Blue Mage), he has only the dinky middle section to himself at the start then he's forced to take the first available out which requires hard to come by key spheres or warp spheres and due to always requiring at least a level to move around with, Kimari is likely to get stuck in a sphere grid you might not want him in (and once he's in he's stuck there until another out or warp sphere becomes available).
3644  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: .Hack on: July 11, 2012, 11:25:18 AM
You haven't missed out on much. To sum up the first series at least, they took one game and stretched it out across four full priced disks. From what I recall of the second series they tried to actually implement improvements over the titles but they were minor at best and not really worth the triple price of a normal game. The concept was neat at the time (i.e. when the first part of the first game came out) and a lot of work was put into the setting but A) other games have since done the same concept but better (like so many actual MMOs these days as well as games like FFXII which was offline FFXI), and B) getting into the plot is a fool's errand outside of Japan since that's where the majority of the supplementary material is trapped and unless you're a major fan it's not worth the effort to look up.

And when I speak of supplementary material, I speak of a couple of anime, a number of manga, a movie, as well as a few other games (and the series is rather self referential to the point where the previous game brought in protagonists from all over the series at the time and with just the material that made it out into the US you would be hard pressed to recognize even a third of the cast).

The only real reason why I can think of anyone would want to get into it now is because of the early/mid 00's ascetic of what an MMORPG would look like (or more accurately, the prediction of this decade's MMO ascetic which, unless you count the Phantasy Star series, was pretty far off from the mark).
3645  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: July 10, 2012, 10:05:14 PM
The environments are really beautiful in Xenoblade. Really encourages you to explore them. I just got through the marsh area with the glowing trees, loved the color scheme. Now in that cave with all the glowing green stuff, very cool.

Also has anyone ever completed all the side-quests in this game?? It seems almost impossible, I dont even try at this point or else I would get nowhere

Yeah, there are so many of em.  Some of em are worthwhile to do to level up your affinity with that particular town/faction.  Some towns need a level 4 or sometimes 5 affinity before quests to unlock new talent trees appear.  Pain in the ass, really.  Currently deciding if I want to go back to Colony 9 or not to level it up to 4 so I can get Shulk's.

Which quest net's you that? I've already got Colony 9's affinity up to 4 stars and I've seen nothing in regards to that.


Desiree's future.  Pre-req is Jackson's Awakening.  Shulk must be party leader.

Ah-ha. Then I guess I'll need to put Shulk out in front next time I play.
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