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3691  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: What snes RPG for a beginner ? on: March 15, 2012, 01:49:55 PM
A few of you mentioned Mario RPG but ... not to just dismiss your suggestions, but SM-RPG really isn't my cup of tea since i don't feel any attraction to that game at all. I can't explain it but it seems ... wrong.

I like my RPG's original and not using another franchise to make an RPG.

The final fantasy games are on my list but let's say they are somewhat hard to get and certainly if you want a cartridge in good shape you pay a small fortune.

Mystic Quest seems to get a lot of hate from just about everyone. A game doesn't have to be "easy", but it has to be very entertaining without drowning in stats and numbers.
Also if a game needs grinding to get anywhere , scrap it off the list :p.

Super Mario RPG isn't actually all that bad in terms of crossovers. It was more of a collaboration between Nintendo and Squaresoft and the plot's minimalistic enough that neither source overpowers the other (unlike say Kingdom Hearts which is almost entirely a Squeenix series that features the occasional Disney character). Additionally the game does a fairly good job of playing to the series strengths by giving battles some interaction mechanics beyond menus and providing platforming elements on the field. But then again those same platforming elements can get rather tricky given the isometric view the game uses so I can see why that would turn you off; fortunately you have no need to fear random encounters due to fights being visible on the field.

As for Mystic Quest I wouldn't call it easy or childish so much as I would refer to it as minimalistic. It forgoes a lot of the needless complications that many RPGs tend to implement. You have your main character and a few static partner characters who you can set to either Manual control or Auto control during battle. Inventories and item management is limited to a small set of different weapon types with different functions and stats, a number of spells divided into three separate spell levels, a couple of basic expendables, a basic set of armor, and key items. Like in Super Mario RPG battles are visible on the field and can be avoided if you so desire, battlefields exist mainly to provide an alternative to fighting everything you come across in dungeons (and you can net yourself sweet loot and additional exp in addition to what you gain just from fighting), and there is a limited amount of platforming and puzzle solving while traversing dungeons (mostly limited to using a particular weapon to overcome a particular obstacle, jumping over or into pits, and finding and using key items.

And if you're looking for games that don't involve grinding then I definitely recommend against the Breath of Fire games. BoF2 in particular since not only do fights give out insufficient exp to keep up with demand but you're going to need to keep all eight party members up to speed in levels since the game loves to force you to use characters that you'll have likely long since benched even going so far as to force you to go solo with them for a dungeon (I'm looking at you Simafort).
3692  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: What snes RPG for a beginner ? on: March 15, 2012, 11:38:17 AM
Secret of Mana. Its pretty straight forward and easy enough to get into even on your own but it's best when played with pals when you can choose to work together or fuck with each other. I need to mention though that this is an ARPG or Action RPG much like Zelda is

Unfortunately the BoF games have aged rather badly but I'd recommend 1 over 2 as 2 gets really painful at various points during the game, especially at the end which is just a painful marathon of a slog to tackle no matter what you do; whereas 1's easier and provides you with a few cheese moves. Sadly, neither game is really worth it, especially if you're playing BoF2 on a cart since the original localization for this game was nearly incomprehensible; if you're emulating, do your self a favor and download the retranslation patch. These are conventional RPGs or CRPGs.

Illusion of Gaia is an excellent game but you REALLY need a guide if you want to have any hope of completing the game's side quest. Also it's linear as hell fyi. It too is an ARPG like Secret of Mana. Admittedly grinding isn't really a thing in this game due to the way that stat upgrades work (you get an upgrade once you clear an area of enemies but bosses will catch you up on anything you missed so you really don't need to grind if you don't feel like it; also bosses basically ignore your stats anyways).

Terranigma is just as excellent as IoG and a bit more forgiving than it in regards to side quests and a lot less linear to boot. Both games can get rather challenging if you don't pay that much attention but both games are definitely worth playing through. Also an ARPG like IoG though stats and levels do matter in this game.

Lufia & the Fortress of Doom is unfortunately a rather bland game but if you want to play through this and have no knowledge of the series then I suggest avoiding any sort of guides. The game's straight forward enough to play blind and there is a twist or two in there that works better blind. Although I'd almost recommend hunting down and playing through Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals first (I say almost since it'll be pretty hard to go back to the blandness of Lufia1 afterwords). This is also a CRPG.

Secret of Evermore is basically like Secret of Mana but without the multiplayer and a bit more difficult unless you're cheesing the game (which is really easy given the bugs). It's plot is also much more western and sci-fi than SoM as well so there's that to consider as well.
3693  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Revelation ds v Sentinels of the Starry Skies ds on: March 15, 2012, 04:52:17 AM
Dragon Quest is horrible.  I pick neither.

At least they're better than the Final Fantasies made after the PSX era.
3694  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: XSEED bringing Ys: Oath in Felghana and Ys Origin to Steam on: March 14, 2012, 11:12:25 AM
Unfortunately, it also means that he'll probably be back to seek attention in the near future.
3695  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Fire Emblem 3DS on: March 14, 2012, 11:03:11 AM
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Great Knights are back and apparently Clerics can now promote into a class that let's them whack baddies upside the head with an axe.

The Battle Sister looks kinda crappy, honestly. You can use attack magic if you promote to Philosopher which seems to play more into the stat spread said characters would have. If I wanted a mage killer I'd stick to the pegasus knights. =P

Yeah I kinda noticed that when I took a look at Mr. Green Knight's promotion to Great Knight and saw that he picks up a whopping +7 to defense and a nice +8 to HP and +5 to attack basically turning him into a brick shit house on four legs. O.o

But then again, Liz doesn't really care that much due to probably keeping staff use with both promotions which is almost always a good thing in of itself. Plus she could do much worse than with axes since they typically have the best might, the least problematic weapon rank requirements, and she seems to have enough skill to be able to make use them.
3696  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Fire Emblem 3DS on: March 14, 2012, 08:25:05 AM
http://andriasang.com/con0a2/fire_emblem_trailer/

New trailer. Features cutscenes, gameplay, villains, black Pegasus, cameo characters, and lots of information that needs translation. I'll get back to this once I've figured out what all the text says.

Edit: Missed the part about some of the less obvious perks to the support system like Armor Knights benefiting from Peg Knight teamups with mobility. Finally, I can actually use non Oswin-like Armor Knights now instead of parking them on the bench as soon as I can.

3697  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: XSEED bringing Ys: Oath in Felghana and Ys Origin to Steam on: March 13, 2012, 07:21:43 PM
althought I am suprised to see such a strong anit steam feeling right now on here

It's like you're in another dimension, trying to participate in a discussion happening in our dimension, and all we're getting are half-sentences.

Meaning alot of responses I am reading seem anti steam for some reason

At least you spelled anti correctly this time....
3698  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best PS3 exclusive JRPG? on: March 13, 2012, 07:18:24 PM
Ar Tonelico 3 and the two Hyperdimension Neptunia games.

That's it. That's what you got a PS3 for. Enjoy.
3699  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Revelation ds v Sentinels of the Starry Skies ds on: March 13, 2012, 07:03:13 PM
They're rather different beasts actually.

DQVI is basically a proto DQVII where you have a fixed cast but still also have recruitable monsters (although this version dialed that down to a set of slimes and an axe lizard) and a vocational center to allow your characters to pick classes to change stats and learn abilities from. Classes mature based upon the number of battles you fight. There's also a dual world aspect going on and has a particularly awesome sequence early on, right before you gain access to the game's class system.

DQIX is much closer to DQIII where you can make your lead character and your party members from scratch and even let them pick which vocation you want them to work towards from the start. Classes mature based upon both the class level (characters do not have their own level) and skill points accumulated at each level which they can distribute amongst various weapon proficiencies and class perks. The plot is unfortunately much simpler here than in DQVI and the best parts rest mostly in the post game and the free downloadable content. This game also has a multiplayer aspect that the other game lacks but good luck trying to find somebody else to play with. If you do know somebody though then by all means get this game. Otherwise they're basically the same and it's up to preference.

The tl;dr is what the other guy said.
3700  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Xenosaga 1, somehow not attracted..... on: March 13, 2012, 06:46:06 PM
If I remember correctly it was due to the way that the music was implemented in the game. Basically whomever they had assigning the music take the boss track and make it into the game's sole battle track, use the various background musics only for cutscenes, have the battle music play when something major was happening like a Gnosis attack or something, and the rest consist of ambient noises i.e. echos and the occasional beep.


I thought there was a lot of potential for her.  Brainy confidence, or something.  She turned out to be an 80s nerd -- meek and hopeless.

.... can we tone down using the word "cunt" till there's a bad-enough male-equivalent?? T_T
I just hate that word....
...I guess I kinda get using it against Shion... she don't deserve many praises...

How about Sausage?

But I digress, most of the characters in the Saga trilogy were largely forgettable and dumb. Hell, the main reason why KOS-MOS is more memorable than the rest of the cast is that she's more likable than the rest of the cast in comparison outside of outliers like JR and not just as scenery like Ziggy.
3701  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: XSEED bringing Ys: Oath in Felghana and Ys Origin to Steam on: March 13, 2012, 04:09:31 PM
Goddammit! Beaten like a housewife by 3 seconds.

Oh well, either way this is great news due to the fact that if XSeeD can get Falcom's approval they can just simply release the PC versions of older games and not their terrible ports (I'm looking at you Gagharv Trilogy).

Also: Ys Origins. Fuck Yeah!!!
3702  Media / Single-Player RPGs / XSeeD bringing Falcom to Steam on: March 13, 2012, 03:21:50 PM
http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q1-2012/031312b.html

Also: Ys Origin.
3703  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: PC / Console RPGs - What are your memorable Quests on: March 13, 2012, 03:13:50 PM
I'm not sure what some of those Acronyms refer to (LoM, RS:MS, etc).  Can you clarify?

- The industrialization sidequests in Terranigma. Mostly for the world building and also how their outcomes weren't wholly positive.

- The fucking car in Devil Summoner 2. Also the 100 demon fight sidequests. Just... really, really fun optional fights.

- Dario from Chrono Cross. Adds a lot to the story and the aftermath of it is just so unrelentingly happy.

- Zombie Ship in RS:MS. Genuinely surprised me.

- The lamp selling quest in LoM was also very evocative and original.

- All the city development stuff from Summoner 2.

- MOTHERFUCKING PUZZLE BOY.

FF8 = Final Fantasy VIII, FFVI = Final Fantasy 6, LoM = Legend of Mana, RS:MS = Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song, P3 = Persona 3, P3FES = Persona 3 FES, P3P = Persona 3 Portable, P4 = Persona 4, P4:TG = Persona 4: The Golden

Edit: ToS = Tales of Symphonia, PS:T = Planescape: Torment, USaga = Unlimited SaGa
3704  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Xenosaga 1, somehow not attracted..... on: March 13, 2012, 01:01:32 PM
Xenosaga 1's decent, Xenosaga 2's awful, Xenosaga 3 is amazing. Whether you have that kind of patience or not is up to you.

Correction: XS1's playable but boring, XS2's pretty but awful, and XS3's great but four times the content of the other two games. Unfortunately, none of the games are anything like Xenogears. Your best bet would be to skip all that and get Xenoblade instead.
3705  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: PC / Console RPGs - What are your memorable Quests on: March 12, 2012, 06:07:39 PM
FFVI where you're rewarded with extra characters and even a bit as to why they got into the fight to begin with and why they should keep going. It helps that it fits thematically since everything that you were working for during the first half of the game just got thrown out the window and now you've got the other half of the game to get your characters' collective acts together for a grand finale. The game breaking power ups were a nice perk as well.
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