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3871  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGFan's 20 Top 20 DS Games on: November 30, 2013, 02:49:04 AM
The thing that bothers me about NieR is that the story is amazing, but I got upset with how much plot was sort of lost and not elaborated on in the game (but in the Grimoire NieR book....Japan only, or on a Google Doc).

Supplemental material is nothing new for Japanese titles. It sucks that most of the time this sort of stuff has to be fan-translated to be enjoyed in the West.

I would stay away from a list of "best stories in an RPG" because that is SO subjective.  Nobody could agree on anything.  It would only invite controversy.  The thread for that article would break 100 pages in 90 days.  

...You should start on the article tomorrow.

That, and most RPG storylines are pretty shitty.

I mean, from an overall media standpoint. Within video game context they're okay.

Nah. The whole deal is really more about how narrative is there mainly (but not strictly) to create context, you can't please everybody in the process and that's always gonna be a thing.

...though, sometimes it gets really bad with how shitty people reacts when their expectations are not meet and take the position that they were "betrayed".

Nope, he's right. Video game story lines are fairly low end on the narrative medium scale.

Hell, just as a case and point, take a look at how magic is treated within RPGs. Most of the time, magic becomes a simple matter of hitting enemies with a bigger stick or the correct one if elements are involved, and the rest is pretty much Healing. Rarely is magic ever treated like anything other than an ever improving collection of Nukes or a more renewable source of Healing, and in those rare cases its usually for fast or other forms of travel or gimmicky purposes. But even rarer is when the matter of having such a mass distribution of destruction or healing is ever reproached. Then there's the matter of the long term effects of being affected by magic, the effects of bungling spells, the use of magic in occupations and how magic affects the need or structure of occupations, the Geo-political effect of a remote village possessing a powerful magical relic, and so on.

And that's just one narrative element. I could write an entire dissertation on the awful and/or lazy writing included in not just RPGs but all video games. Even the best examples currently available aren't really that good when you think about it.
3872  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back on: November 29, 2013, 10:07:06 PM
Gravity. This would make for a hell of a roller-coaster ride.

That said, it's just Sandra Bullock (sporting the worst helmet hair ever) trying to keep the Space Buses from going slower that 55000 miles an hour. Too bad she has George Clooney as her partner instead of Keanu Reeves, so instead she spends the almost the entire movie trying to commit suicide and failing miserably (her character development arc was way too steep and cookie-cutter for my tastes). Also, I spent the movie trying to find other scientific inconsistencies since everything in the movie was foreshadowed in one way or another. And I mean everything.
3873  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Zelda LttP 2 for 3DS on: November 29, 2013, 09:01:26 PM
If you don't want to believe in the Chicken Blade then that's your loss.

My uncle who works at Nintendo tells me that the above is false.

It's actually a Cucco Badge that lets you summon a swarm of angry cuccos at will.

Meanwhile, I got the game this morning and already I've discovered a minor sequence break to obtaining a piece of heart before even getting a sword.

Alas, I'm only two dungeons in right now so I haven't found many others. But right now there's a fuck ton of shit to do, even if its mostly for money.
3874  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed on: November 28, 2013, 12:05:03 AM
That was eloquent? I fail to see how.

Did Hideo Baba renew the YEAR OF TALES for 2014 or something?
That's a lot of potential 'tales of' incoming.

Baba:  GOOD-O NEWZU!  We are REMAKING ARR 'TEIRUZU OBU' TITLEZ!  O tanoshimi ni!!!

Then I die a little because Abyss HD/remake would fill my gaming quota for a year.

B-but, they've already ported it to the 3DS. What more can they do?
3875  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Random and Amazing Pictures, Please! on: November 28, 2013, 12:03:52 AM


"hey fellow regular kids what’s up"

"But I must go now, for my planet needs me."

*He died on the way there*
3876  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Sega buying Atlus on: November 27, 2013, 10:12:23 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/27/atlus-free-use-dormant-sega-ip-says-company-president/

Oh god! I've got a wish list of old Sega IPs I'd love to see get a kick in the pants. Too bad single player Phantasy Star is off the table (since that PSO2 is still a thing). Maybe a Shining Force, Sakura Taisen, and/or Crystal Warriors x Growlanser game would be sweet (hell, lets go wild and throw in all of the above plus Langrisser into that mix and make it the biggest SRPG clusterfuck outside of Project X Zone or any given SRW). Alternatively, something involving Psychic World or Zillion (just to see them reach that far back into the mothballs; besides, I feel that they should build up to the better properties like Jet Set Radio or Skies of Arcadia, rather than diving right in and completely missing the point; also I want to see if they can get the rights to Zillion given the whole 'anime tie in' thing).
3877  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days on: November 27, 2013, 04:51:37 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/27/lightning-returns-lowest-opening-sales-final-fantasy-xiii-game/

Inb4 Yggdrasil can RSS.

Also, ouch. Not surprising, but ouch all the same.
3878  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Wishlist 2014 on: November 27, 2013, 12:06:07 PM
I forgot about Transistor. :(

Probably a bunch of other things too like that Yoshi's Epic Yarn game.
3879  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Wishlist 2014 on: November 27, 2013, 03:15:13 AM
Isn't this already out though? Either way, you're not missing much outside of "SOMETHING'S HAPPENING! IT MUST BE A PARADOX!!! :byodame:".

The ending is so good though. I also enjoyed the rest story and all the expansions (or retcons if you prefer) that were made to the narrative. Hell! I can go as far as saying that XIII-2 is the reason why I have been interested in LR.

And again, this is where you and I differ in opinion. I'm sorry, but I just can't take a villain with an instant "I WIN!" button built into his chest seriously, especially if there is literally nothing stopping him from pressing it at any given moment except for his own laziness and wanting to obtain maximum levels of douche-baggery.
3880  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed on: November 27, 2013, 02:25:33 AM
I'm betting we'll finally be seeing Tales of Zesty. Do not afraid the future! Believe in the sign of Z!
3881  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed on: November 26, 2013, 10:25:08 PM
http://gematsu.com/2013/11/next-tales-of-teaser-site-launched

Looks like the next Tales of PlayStations(s) will soon be revealed.
3882  Media / General Games / Re: Castlevania - Lords of Shadow on: November 26, 2013, 10:12:49 PM
Edit-
Should point at that in this thread WAY back when I said Gabriel was super responsive.  Maybe it was the PC controls or I was drinking way too much scotch back then, but he really isn't as maneuverable as I thought he was three years ago.  Blocking just never feels good, and you'll often roll right into attacked and end up hit because the invincibility timing is all sorts of screwey. 

Maybe it was because you were coming off of GoW3 and compared to that, this felt super responsive.
3883  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: November 26, 2013, 10:06:35 PM
Just because the comapny says it is canon doesn't mean it has to change your own personal canon.

If Persona fans are gonna start doing this then the fanbase is gonna end up like the one from Silent Hill did; A mess not much people want to take part of.

You're saying this as if it isn't already the case (to be fair, all fanbases have their extreme elements, even Persona as well as SMT on the whole, it is the nature of the beast).
3884  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Zelda LttP 2 for 3DS on: November 26, 2013, 10:02:20 PM
I know link is a girly elf boy, but I'm not sure the plan of having him impersonate the princess will go well.

If only his hair were pink...
3885  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ys (IV) Memories of Celceta on: November 26, 2013, 07:31:13 PM
Worth noting that this game does not have release-date delivery from Amazon (I'm so used to that now that it surprises me when it's not an option...).  Furthermore it's being released on the week of Thanksgiving, meaning that even if it gets shipped Tuesday it's probably not going to be delivered until the following Monday...
How dare you doubt Amazon! They will never fail! *hugs his copy of Ys IV that was delivered from Amazon today*

.....Now if only I had a Vita.

But is yours a Collectors' Edition? *hugs his Collectors' Edition of Ys IV*

.....Now if only I had a Vita.
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