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3886  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Worst RPGS on: March 03, 2011, 10:22:55 PM
Shin Megami Tensei:Ronde was also a disaster.Truly a dark stain on such a great series.

I say the same thing about Persona 3.

This is like saying Final Fantasy II's a disgrace to the series, then someone countering with VII. At best either there's an argument to be made about an unfavorable change in direction OR you genuinely liked II but not VII, at worst it's outright throwing out any semblance of objectivity in favor of pure personal bias while showing a lack of experience with the other game (II/Ronde). If nothing else Ronde's certainly the ugliest MegaTen game.

And this is showing why I've been hesitant in naming anything! While there are some games I really didn't like (Baten Kaitos!) I can't legitimately call them "worst" because it at least it somewhat competently tried a new idea and there are a lot of fans for it. Xenosaga II must be worthy of mention even if it's not absolute trash though, it takes a special kind of failure in order to try to address issues/a broader audience and completely fuck up at both.

Basically this^.

A LOT of this worst shit that's been named in this thread are at best joke suggestions or at worst retarded fanboyism. Naming games like Legend of Dragoon or FFs VII and VIII as the worst is like naming which Star Trek movie was the worst EVAR!1!1!1... Even the worst entries in that series are still better than at least some of their contemporaries (check out other 80's Sci-fi movies like Space Mutiny before derailing this thread with your frothing ST hate). As for RPGs games like Lufia: Ruins of Lore outsuck almost every game mentioned thus far. Face it, how many RPGs named here show visible graphics bugs under normal gameplay conditions? How many RPGs shamelessly rip off gameplay features from other games but implement them so badly that only half of the playable characters can make any use of any of them? How many games can be set in between two other games in a series for the sake of explaining how the differences between those two game could occur without actually explaining anything? (Don't answer that one, we'll be here all year.)

And if we want too we could easily take a look at some of the REALLY oldschool RPGs like the original version of The Bards Tale, Dragon Slayer 1, or Ultima 1 among others and argue back and forth about how terrible they are compared to today's latest and greatest FPS/RPG hybrid.

TL;DR is that this whole goddamn topic is completely retarded and should be locked.
3887  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Worst RPGS on: March 03, 2011, 01:11:12 PM
I don't even care that there are tricks to it. The draw system itself is stupid.

Why not just go with jobs? Or, why not make each character progression unique. Or why not give each character different skill/ability trees which the player can choose?

The point is the draw system was one of those attempts to innovate that failed.

The draw system was a replacement for equipment as GFs were your Jobs. Full Stop.

The story was very character dependent but the characters were one dimensional and and aside from Squall, Rinoa, and Laguna your party members were little more than glorified NPCs that served to rely and depend on Squall for everything (and what little was there was to most of those characters ultimately cheapened by the orphanage scene). The plot not hinging on Squall falling head over heels for Rinoa or Laguna being Laguna involved a Sorceress trying to start a war, and the SeeDs who have to kill her.

I really liked FF8 for its card game, that's about it.
Oh yeah, they nailed that. It was awesome.
In my opinion, they should have kept the card game exactly as it was in every FF after 8 and allowed you to take the cards with you to the next game, then, when the hardware finally allowed it, you could have online battles with other players. Like a CCG almost.

Another missed opportunity I suppose.

that's a great idea!! that would have redeemed FF13 by itself

Would you rather prefer the FF series turn into a TCG entirely?
3888  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Worst RPGS on: March 02, 2011, 07:47:18 PM
^But Grandia II is bad.

- Link's sword isn't big enough.

Wha-? A penis joke?

Welcome to the most common Shonen trope, where everything is solved with more dakka, sword, hair, dayglow, arbitrary numbers, friendship, ect. The only exception to having a bigger sword is when you get a katana or some other sword of Japanese origin as Japan always does it better.

Edit: Christ Almighty. Where the hell did this page come from?
3889  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Worst RPGS on: March 02, 2011, 05:05:38 AM
Reasons why LttP is an RPG:
- Has fucking elves.
- You can grind for shit like money and hearts.
- Has some fucking bullshit about a princess. Y'all like princesses, right?
- Craps out completely in the second half.

Reasons why Wind Waker is an RPG:
- You can have sex with a boat.

Reasons why the Zelda series isn't an RPG:
- Never wins an award for best RPG of the year because nobody acknowledges it as an RPG Foiled by the one site that actually acknowledges the Zelda series as RPG like.
- Additionally lololol.

- Alternatively, not enough numbers.
- Link's hair isn't spiky enough.
- Link's sword isn't big enough.
- Link isn't dumb enough.
3890  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Worst RPGS on: March 01, 2011, 10:05:08 PM
Hey I think I'll just list every RPG I genuinely disliked then maybe highlight the ones I specifically hated.

A Link to the Past, Windwaker

This is not an RPG
3891  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Worst RPGS on: March 01, 2011, 03:06:56 AM
This thread reminds me of why I left the Gamespot forums
That card-based RPG on GameCube was utter shit.

Which one?

Lost Kindgoms (Rune).

And here I thought you were going to say Phantasy Star Online 3.
3892  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Super RPGFan Game Journal IV - The New Warriors: The Revenge The Movie The Game on: March 01, 2011, 01:25:30 AM
Why in god's name would you ever need to grind in FFIX

Maybe because he's running a level 1 game challenge.

Or he misspoke and meant grinding in Chocobo's Hot and Cold.
3893  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Worst RPGS on: March 01, 2011, 01:21:34 AM
This thread reminds me of why I left the Gamespot forums
That card-based RPG on GameCube was utter shit.

Which one?
3894  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Worst RPGS on: March 01, 2011, 12:48:04 AM
3895  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: New Sting, possibly Dept. Heaven game in the works? on: February 28, 2011, 05:34:09 PM

A bit of an update on the mechanics.
3896  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Xenogears coming to PSN this week for $9.99 on: February 28, 2011, 05:01:28 PM
Here, let me fix that for you:

Wohoo! finally a chance buy one of the most overrated rpgs of all time...!

I agree, Persona is overrated as hell.
3897  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The 3rd Birthday on: February 26, 2011, 04:59:20 AM
Isn't making shit up just awesome??

Welcome to Anime/Manga/VideoGame Writing 101!!!

Where you take the exact same idea everybody else has then make shit up as you go along until you write yourself into a corner. What truly separates the mangaka from the fanboys is by how many people they piss off with their liberal use of Deus Ex's and how often they can get away with it without getting their series shit-canned.
3898  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Radiant Historia on: February 26, 2011, 04:43:31 AM
The game's whole gimmick is time traveling to create an ideal future by rewinding time as necessary; it'd be pretty dickish to have genuine game over sequences as a result of a poor choice.

Another way of looking at it is that they're basically taking Chrono Trigger's idea of having different outcomes based off of current plot events when you end the game and running with it.

Instead of having to play the game through the first time and then see the alternate ways things could go down when the TrueEvil is removed from the picture thus seeing how everything works out ahead of time, you're searching for the correct context while getting slapped with and dodging the bad ends flying all over the place.
3899  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The Last Remnant on: February 26, 2011, 04:29:53 AM
Sorry to revive this very old thread but I wanted to say that I just bought this on the 360 and should have it in the mail in the next few days.  I'm going to install the game because I hear if you don't, the game is almost unplayable and by doing the install option, it is much better.  Any tips or advice for a new player?  I heard this is similar to SaGa.  I'm fully prepared since I own and have beaten the SaGa games, well I don't own Unlimited SaGa.

Return it and get the PC version. I'm not even kidding, the difference is night and day. You're seriously screwing yourself over with the threeshitty version. Installing it wont solve the design issues made to fit the game on the 360.

Once you're done with that, my advice is to try avoid grinding. Like many SaGa games before it, grinding can and will screw you over if you're not careful about it.
3900  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Super RPGFan Game Journal IV - The New Warriors: The Revenge The Movie The Game on: February 24, 2011, 07:01:14 PM
DQIX. Picked up two new top tier weapon types from the DQVC. Now with the top Knife and top Staff all I have left are the top Fan and top Wand.

Now why the grotto bosses have to be so god damn stingy with their top drops AND the DQVC fail me constantly for these (aside from the pants, thanks a lot DQVC) is beyond me but it means that I only have four of the top armors in the game (and most of those are only worn below the waist).

Edit@Yoda: I'm honestly surprised it wasn't named Dongz.
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