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4156  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mega Man Legends 3 on: July 19, 2011, 02:04:44 PM
Between this and no more PW games in English, this is the first time I'll stop buying a company's games because of one game. Though, it was more of a buildup from their constantly slipping quality and kicking Inafune out. Snubbing Inafune was one of the biggest travesties of the modern industry. Much like when Matsuno left Square Enix, when Infaune left all vestiges of dignity and integrity at Capcom left with him.

Oh well, at least he's in a better place now.
4157  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: In an age of re-makes, I wish... (outside the realm of Square) on: July 19, 2011, 01:36:44 AM
You know what. You guys are right. What we need here is a remake of Eternal Fillena.

Also Adventures of Hourai High and Rejoice! Another Aretha Kingdom.
4158  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mega Man Legends 3 on: July 19, 2011, 01:13:33 AM
Frankly, I'm not surprised at this turn of events.


And capcom has joined the ranks of shit.

Oh, how quickly one forgets about the tragic end of Clover and their series (Okamiden aside) left to up and die.

Hell, it only took this long for the Megaman series to die because they just couldn't get Inafune out the door fast enough.
4159  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: emotional RPG's ? on: July 16, 2011, 10:49:48 AM
Oh right, the law of disproportionate character ages in Japanese media. Where a character marked at the age of 8 = 9, 11 = 13, 14 = 17, 18 = 22, 25 = 38, 30+ = 50+, and 1000 or so = 8.

Of course Rena looks like she's 14 or younger in the PSP version.
4160  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: emotional RPG's ? on: July 15, 2011, 06:49:41 PM
Rena's blatant panty shots

Pantyshots? Holy hell, I played the game 4 times and managed to miss out on them every single time? Orignal PSX or PSP? Because I'm seriously wondering here.

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her ending with Chaud resigns her to a lifetime of kitchenwork and childbirth within a year of their adventure.

Erm, I'm not sure why that's awful. She looked rather happy. Everyone's definition of happiness is different and playing the game, that looks pretty close to hers.

But yeah, I wouldn't consider any Star Ocean games emotional.

I know of at least one sometime during the second disk where the party falls off a mountain and into the snow below. Rena just so happens to land face first in that case. It might depend on whether you choose her as your protagonist or not (which one might understandably not choose to do as it usually leads to more Rena kidnappings and more Dias) but its in PSX version at least. Also her given age is 14 in the Japanese version which means she's preggers at 15 in Chaud's pairing (its also thankfully not canon thanks to Blue Sphere).
4161  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: emotional RPG's ? on: July 15, 2011, 03:08:49 PM

Star Ocean 2

If you honestly think that any of those games could tell an emotional story then I suggest you start with Beyond the Beyond. You'll be weeping by the end of the first third of the game.

Seriously though, all the games mentioned in this post are terrible, storywise.

Granted its been forever and a day since I played it but what was so terrible about SO2? I recall it being rather average up until the halfway mark when
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the planet you've been trying to save goes "boom"
and also recalling that as an emotional kick in the teeth; after that it had my attention in full. It wasn't a masterpiece but "terrible"?

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Said planet also gets better. Though to me the game loses all of its credibility once your party hits level 100 in preparation for an unwinnable tourney on the second continent. And all the unwinnable boss fights after that.

Also Rena's blatant panty shots and the fact that her ending with Chaud resigns her to a lifetime of kitchenwork and childbirth within a year of their adventure.

But then again in SO3 the earth gets destroyed, your childhood friend looses her memory and dies (then turns out to be someone else), some other NPCs die, your father dies (especially this one and the particular battle associated with it), every ship you get on gets blown up, and so on. Of course all of this is just par for the course in a JRPG simulation (or in SO3's case a JRPG simulation's JRPG simulation (though this doesn't count the JRPG simulation you begin this particular JRPG simulation in)).


Off course a number of the games recommended in this thread are terrible examples.
4162  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: emotional RPG's ? on: July 13, 2011, 09:07:50 PM
All the dot hack games
All the dot hack GU games
Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2
Star Ocean 1,2,3

If you honestly think that any of those games could tell an emotional story then I suggest you start with Beyond the Beyond. You'll be weeping by the end of the first third of the game.

Seriously though, all the games mentioned in this post are terrible, storywise.
4163  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: FF Versus XIII follow up coming next week + possible new game announcement on: July 13, 2011, 08:59:40 PM
This is the JRPG equivalent of Duke Nukem Forever. Anybody who thinks this game will be great is just fooling themselves now.

In regards to how long it's taking, definitely, or at least the modern equivalent (not sure it'lll displace Mother 3). In regards to quality... I dunno. Admittedly I was very pessimistic when it was first announced, but promises of a more open world (if they don't kill that during proper development) alone will at least keep it distinctive from other JRPGs this generation unlike DNF, and RPGs kind of justify taking a long time (though usually not THIS long) to develop in comparison to FPSes. You bolt out an FPS ASAP, you can usually put out a respectable title by modern standards. You bolt out an RPG, you get something like Dragon Age II that everyone blasts as being too blatantly incomplete. A large part of the reason I'm VERY weary over FFXIII-2, because it looks like SE went and tried to apply the FPS formula to it when that isn't a good idea. Finally, DNF's designers just didn't sound like they were competent people at all. Not that I have the most respect for Nomura, but depending on how involved he was with The World Ends With You and Birth By Sleep he's at least demonstrated in the last few years he's learned to design a good game.

I, however, expect the story to be shit.

That last part's a given. That said, the big deal with FFXIII-2 isn't the fact that they're shoving it out the door so much as they're cobbling it together from leftovers of XIII-1 and then shoving it out the door. The only question about that game is whether Squeenix is going to try to let its gameplay system stand on its own instead of tutorialling and 2/3 partying it for the first half of the game and only opening it up at the eleventh hour (even though you can't do anything with that until the thirteenth hour).

The only question about Versus is whether our children will even give a shit when it comes out.


Final Fantasy has now reached it's......Final Fantasy.

It's not Final Fantasy's Final Fantasy until the Final Fantasy VII HD remake is announced.
4164  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Theatrhythm Final Fantasy, Thread of people Dancing Mad on: July 13, 2011, 08:47:25 PM
Elite Beat Agents.

More like Elite Beat Dissidia, but yes, this makes much more sense.
4165  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: emotional RPG's ? on: July 12, 2011, 08:26:30 PM
The Quintet Trilogy save for Actraiser and Soul Blazer (although the only thing tragic about The Granstream Saga is that it was made).
4166  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The Merged Final Fantasy XIII-2 Thread on: July 12, 2011, 08:23:19 PM
Japan expo trailer:

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/07/01/final-fantasy-xiii-2-footage-straight-from-japan-expo/

Unfortunately it's just a different montage of all the videos they showed previously.

It's Versus all over again. Expect to see the same footage for the next 3 years with maybe 3 seconds of new footage added on a yearly basis.
4167  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: the otaku is killing japanese rpgs on: July 12, 2011, 01:08:42 PM
In short: You're acting like a soccer mom. If you don't want otaku crap, don't go otaku crap and complain that you can't see anything but otaku crap.


To be fair, it IS understandable why he would troll this topic. Its not the first time we've had this thread and it almost always goes to the same place. Besides you could change the word Otaku with Corporation and have a much more relevant question, even if the content will still be about a bunch of forum regulars going on yet another strawman hunt.
4168  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: the otaku is killing japanese rpgs on: July 11, 2011, 08:42:36 AM
In reference to the thread's title....Maybe.


Wasn't IV the one where the main character goes from badass Dark Knight to pretty boy Paladin?

It did, but it also featured a gratuitous number of party members getting blown up, drowning, or getting turned to stone with all but one of them getting better after a while.
4169  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Theatrhythm Final Fantasy, Thread of people Dancing Mad on: July 11, 2011, 08:25:45 AM
Why is there even a thread for this in the RPG section? I thought it was a rhythm game.

I have to be honest, I've been kinda letting it slide because it's Final Fantasy-themed. I even expect them to throw in some RPG elements due to being an FF spin-off, much like Dissidia!

Turns out it's fucking Dissidia Dance Revolution.
4170  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: the otaku is killing japanese rpgs on: July 10, 2011, 09:41:48 AM
The problem with the above is that Shadow Hearts, Wild ARMs, and Suikoden are not Squeenix games.

Also, Squeenix is a festering pile of bloated suits and rotting IPs (DQ guys aside). They've pretty much run everyone of worth out of town at this point (again DQ guys aside) and there's nobody really taking their place.
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