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4186  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Random and Amazing Pictures, Please! on: July 18, 2013, 01:39:00 AM
A warning to anyone who hasn't watch all Disney movies and is weakened by Spoilers: BEWARE~!
Just want to throw that out there now before going any further.

^ I loved Frollo as a villain

Me too - his "Hellfire" song is outstanding.  It doesn't make you actually sympathetic to him, but it really highlights what's actually behind his antagonism.  He's hot for Esmeralda and simply cannot control it, and he hates himself for it, but he hates her even more because she makes him feel that way.

"Hellfire" is one of my personal favorites from Disney movies. While I think Frollo is one  of the darn best villains ever, I think it's his voice actor that gives me chills when he sings and spews judgement on everything. Had it been someone else, my opinion would greatly differ.

I actually love Disney villains on a whole usually for their charisma and doing their damned worst to make life a living hell for each hero/ine.

Lady Tremaine had the step daughters ruin Cinderella's dress and locked her in her room to sabotage her chances on going to the ball and meeting Prince Charming (and basically damning her to a life of servitude; the third film actually had a kinda cool plot with that respect)

Malificent turning into a dragon and encasing the kingdom in thorns is badass.

Hades definitely represents excellent villainous charisma for death and destruction (and his deadpan, nonchalance is played extremely well).

Ursula has sass up the wah-zoo.  Nothing like her saying she's "wasting away", but also grants Ariel's wish in the most tribulating way and doubles to rile up King Triton

I'm also a big fan of Gaston from Beauty and the Beast.  I loved that he still tried to take out the Beast after not finishing him off; and while not my favorite as far as "acts of villainy" he performs like a champion as a true Lothario.  That voice actor nailed it.

I even liked Mother Gothel from Tangled insofar that Rapunzel is completely under her thumb, oblivious to the truth.

Frollo, of course, is a great for the above; I can't help but read into his issues within the context of The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Catholicism in general.

It's uncanny how destructive each villain was with their desires. One of my other favorite Disney villains is Clayton from Tarzan (again, great voice actor). Clayton's dive into madness while cutting the vines to free himself to attack Tarzan was his undoing, leading to one of the more violent deaths--in my opinion--in Disney movies that left a heavy impression on me. Frollo's death, on the hand, was one of the most ironic and coolest (It's right after Clayton's death in that vid).

Chipping in on this, you also have Jaffar, who's obsession with power becomes his own downfall when be goes so far as to make himself into a Genie and becomes a prisoner of his own power. And later you have the second Aladdin movie where Jaffar's single-minded obsession with getting revenge on Aladdin causes his plan to unravel at the end due to not paying attention to Aladdin's chums and Iago turning on him.

Also there's the Lion King where Scar's treachery leads him to try to pin the blame on his own hyena hoard when he's confronted by Simba which results on them turning on him after his defeat.

As for the bad guy of Mulan, well, he, I guess, didn't consider that a woman could beat him, or something...? I don't know, I don't think there was any real focus on the Mongolian hoard outside of the fact that they're invading China and they're ruthless killers (because, you know how invasions go, raping and pillaging the land and all that).

Not like every Disney classic had a villain that went overboard on their ambitions to cause their downfall. Hell, look at Lady and the Tramp. Who even was the bad guy in that picture? The Aunt? The Cats? The Rat? The Dog Catcher? Or what about Dumbo? What it the Elephant Troupe? Racism? Dumbo's Ears/Deformities?

Still, McClintock from The Rescuers Down Under would probably be my favorite Disney villain just for the bad singing, being a smug bastard for most of the time, and for being a random poacher with a third grade level education. He's not some evil counterpart to somebody or a wizard or something but just a random douchebag who presses the :moreevil: more times than he should (as well as being the villain in one of the first movies in the theater I remember seeing through all the way).
4187  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed on: July 18, 2013, 12:59:56 AM

I'd be down for Tales of Zestoria.

Mmm. Zesty!

Although, Tales of Catastora sounds catastrophic.

*dramatic camera pan* Tales just got creales!
4188  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: What do you want out of PS4/XBone RPGs? on: July 18, 2013, 12:47:11 AM
Fast travel breaks immersion until you quit caring about immersion and just want to get to wherever you're tryna' go.


Well duh, airships don't fit in to every world. That's why we have cryo-sleep spaceships, teleportation enabled wizards, giant robots that cover ground quickly, giant robots that can fly once you upgrade them or find out they're secretly an ancient relic and so clearly super advanced, and big talking birds that have nothing better to do than cart you around. Clearly these fit in everywhere and are always realistic and never make the plot questionable or break world immersion.

Don't forget things like Dragon Gods, Bird Gods, Hotair Balloons, Ocean Palaces that look like the Fourth Angel from NGE, Time Machines with wings slapped on, Floating Islands, Flying Rocks, Pterodactyls, Escape Pods, Air Bikes, Magic Brooms, Magic Carpets, Magic Beds, and so on.
4189  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: July 17, 2013, 07:45:28 PM
Let it be known in shame that I have beaten Megaman X7 two or three times in my life. I totally forgot about Flame Hyenard. You just gave me a hernia.

It was goofy for a little bit, then I realized what his gimmick was and promptly muted that fucker.

But yeah, this game just highlights Capcom's mistreatment of the franchise. Between the need to constantly spam MM titles, the complete lack of :effort: in converting the gameplay mechanics into 3D, the useless addition of Axl, and the boring ass excuse plot since the actual plot ended two games ago, really drive home just how little Capcom cared about the shebang.

Which is why they canned Inafune when he tried to make Legends 3 behind their backs (a year later and he could've just kickstartered the thing (and Capcom still probably would've come along and pulled the plug on him)). Which is why I generally give zero fucks about what Capcom does these days because how do I know they aren't just going to be spiteful, money-grubbing, assholes to something else I like yet again?

(Hell, I'd spite them with PxZ by not using any Capcom characters, but unfortunately, the Chun-li and Morrigan team is so far one of two teams with a female leading it (the other by Gemini from Sakura Taisen V, and I suspect that KOS-MOS will be one as well since T-elos is already bumming around and those two have more or less been reincarnated as Endless Frontier characters), plus they're one of the first teams to join. Then again, the only other Capcom teams I have right now are Frank West/Lei-Lei, Ryu/Ken, and Dante/Dimitri, two of which come with skills that boost mobility and the third which has already been falling behind due to not really bringing anything to the table. Also Frank West is too funny to bench ignore. And aside for Tron Bonne, I've only started to come into Capcom support characters recently with Princess Devilotte (who offers a cheap self heal to those who don't have one), Arthur (offers better experience gains), Lady (cheaper counters and a stat boosting spirit command), and Batsu (who could be left on the bench).)
4190  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: July 17, 2013, 04:23:05 PM
Just took down Duplewyrm in Graces F. Biggest things left to do are Riot Peak Master Class (Get to the final battle just fine then get destroyed in seconds), defeat Fobrawyrm, and finish getting caught up on requests. Secondary things I need to work on are stamps and gald farming for the Eleth Mods.

The last dragon was a proper pain in the ass.

Played f*ck all today and read b*llshit instead. BOO.


By god though, this game feels so completely sluggish and clunky compared to every other X game (yes, including the GB/C X games). The weapons suck (and by proxy, Zero sucks), Axl sucks, the Seventh Armor sucks, the stages suck, and the camera sucks. But worst of all is that the primary upgrade mechanic is mostly tied to rescuing reploids again and it sucks since it takes 12 chips to fully upgrade a Maverick Hunter with half of the "upgrades" being spent on denerfing stuff like your dash speed, hover time, or charge time, a third of them are for mostly useless shit like upgrading the occasional buster pellet or saber slash instead of a flat damage upgrade or doing anything about charge attacks or increasing attack range which doesn't help anybody since enemies tend to spawn in close proximity to you, and the rest are stuff that actually qualify as upgrades in damage reduction or boosted healing from items.

Meanwhile, in less shitty game news. Project PXZ has finally started to get interesting in the win/lose conditions instead just rout everybody or defeat commander. Chapter 16 has you chasing down and defeating the 4 Stehoneys from dotHack before any one of them can make it to the goal at the end of the stage, and chapter 17 has you running around blowing up 5 statues within 15 turns. Its also been trying to alleviate your party size issues by dividing up your party for various chapters including 14, 15, and now 18. As for new recruits, I've only re-gotten Jin/Xiaou and the Shining Force chucklefucks in terms of teams while I've picked up Flynn, Princess Devilotte, Arthur, Lady, Batsu, and Imca in terms of solo characters (now that I have most of the game's playable units, the game is chucking the solo units at me to fill in the ranks).

And I still haven't gotten SMTIV yet but I suspect I will soon.
4191  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: July 17, 2013, 03:46:28 PM
Anybody knows if the Amazon cardboard box armor is any less suited to the early game?

It's cardboard what do you think will happen!?

Seriously though I'll check the stats when I get my hands on my copy.

Ok, it seems underwhelming relative to the GameStop one, just gives you +2 HP over the default and switches your weakness from Fire to Pierce. I guess somehow it's better to be set on fire rather than shot by a gun when wearing a coat made from shipping boxes.

In other words, they both suck.

Glad I didn't preorder this game then.
4192  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Best **Badass** Moments in games on: July 17, 2013, 12:13:53 AM
Wasn't Chiaotzu just Tienanmen Square's pet short?

Yes. He was also a walking grenade for the Sayin arc.

Though he was originally a gimmicky psychic that Krillian fights in the second tournament arc in Dragon Ball which basically means he's a chump fight from a show loaded with them.

And in a desperate bid to rerail the discussion, was there any particular reason to get those DBZ GBA RPGs outside of being a fan? I never bothered with them myself outside of a demo I played once but the underlying gameplay seemed like it could've carried a DBZeque plot.
4193  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st on: July 16, 2013, 10:59:49 PM
The real biggest RPG the Xbox got was Knights of the Old Republic, possibly followed by the sequel although given the state that was released in and the mods on PC it's better to go PC there. Well, it is too for KotOR1, but not as big of a deal.

There was also Jade Empire but again, the PC was probably the better choice as well.
4194  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: July 16, 2013, 04:59:45 PM
If you pre-ordered from GameStop DO NOT put on the armor at the first opportunity you get.

The Auric Armor gives you 20 HP and makes you resist fire/ice/lightning/wind, but it makes you weak to phys/gun/light/dark.  What does that mean?

If you put it on before your first battle, you will die.  The first battle is an ambush vs two enemies that use physical attacks.  It's fine once you have a party, since your demons will take hits, but for that first battle, it just screws you over.

That's hilarious.

Anybody knows if the Amazon cardboard box armor is any less suited to the early game?
4195  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tokitowa - Time and Eternity (third person 2D/3D RPG, imageepoch, PS3) announced on: July 16, 2013, 04:57:47 PM
So I discovered my cousin preordered a copy of this as a birthday present when it arrived in the mail. My first impressions:

The art is pretty nice, the animation is kind of janky, the music is okay, sometimes, and the acting is not bad. The gameplay is incredibly basic. Oh, and Zack, the knight, is a total creeper.

My first impression is that this game is mediocre. It's playable, but I think it would work better as an arcade-style short rpg thing.

Don't worry. You'll see why nobody likes this game in the next 40-50 hours of doing the exact same thing. Seriously, I guarantee that you've already seen everything this game has to offer.

I saw somewhere or other that the game is only a little over 20 hours long

That's better than what I got which is just an assumption that this game is of the average console JRPG length.

Still 19.5 hours too many though.
4196  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tokitowa - Time and Eternity (third person 2D/3D RPG, imageepoch, PS3) announced on: July 16, 2013, 03:06:25 PM
So I discovered my cousin preordered a copy of this as a birthday present when it arrived in the mail. My first impressions:

The art is pretty nice, the animation is kind of janky, the music is okay, sometimes, and the acting is not bad. The gameplay is incredibly basic. Oh, and Zack, the knight, is a total creeper.

My first impression is that this game is mediocre. It's playable, but I think it would work better as an arcade-style short rpg thing.

Don't worry. You'll see why nobody likes this game in the next 40-50 hours of doing the exact same thing. Seriously, I guarantee that you've already seen everything this game has to offer.
4197  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Best **Badass** Moments in games on: July 16, 2013, 03:05:08 AM
Spoilers for FF4

look guys, FF4 was full of heroic sacrifices in which no one actually dies. Except god hates Tellah's family, it's the only explanation as they are the only ones to experience perma-death in that game. One guy jumps out of an airship with bombs strapped to him, one guy locks himself in an exploding room and two turn themselves into statues and THEY ALL LIVE, all Tellah did was cast some black magic that didn't even work. He's the Chiaotzu of that game. Even Golbez gets to live  and return as a good guy in the sequel.

I know that (although I wouldn't say "God hates Tellah's family" since Anna was just unlucky to be Gilbert and Tellah's drama fuel and Tellah's entire point was that he was a famous sage who's getting too old for this shit), but its more significant in that being the particular moment where the game pretty much came up and said "Screw it. The audience knows we aren't going to perma kill anybody else so let's just run with it instead.".

Also, the Wonder After Years is bad fanfiction.

Also also, if we're comparing Dragon Ball characters to FFIV characters then Tellah would be more like Master Roshi in that Chiaotzu was never a crutch character like Tellah or Roshi were (all Chiaotzu had going for him was a gimmick fight against Krillian and two ineffectual kamikaze deaths).
4198  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Youtube on: July 16, 2013, 02:20:05 AM

Another goofy music video, but I had to post this one separately so as to not hassle the Hoff.
4199  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days on: July 16, 2013, 02:12:32 AM


01. Crimson Blitz
02. The Savior
03. Lightning Returns

Composed by: Masashi Hamauzu, Naoshi Mizuta & Mitsuto Suzuki

Yggdrasil, can you change your avvy to that yggdrasil?

...eh I don't know.

So if I want the FFXIII-3 Pre Soundtrack, I'm stuck with a cover featuring Lightning in her worst getup yet? I don't care how much cheezy buttrock they throw into this, its not worth it.
4200  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Fire Emblem 3DS on: July 16, 2013, 02:09:55 AM
Today's Owain's birthday! It's unclear if he'll get songs written about him.

He got a Superior Bow, but it was quickly overshadowed once Nah casually found an Aversa's Night.

Dammit. I knew that yesterday was somebody's B-day. Oh well...

Anyways, Owain. The Sealed Sword that cleaves evil. Like all children characters, he's pretty much on the high end of the ability spectrum for that reason alone and his recruitment chapter is the easiest outside of Morgan's. Just by going with what he gets from his mother alone; in terms of classes and skills, he's got it made with the ability to either inherit Galeforce or Support Boost+ and a diverse class set consisting of the useful Myrmidon and Barbarian, and the not as useful Priest; in terms of stat cap modifiers, his mother does him no favors beyond taking up a vocation as a Priest or whatever he gets from his father. And speaking of his father, no potential father of his offers him the full 9 classes (outside of the Avatar, who goes above and beyond that anyways) alongside Inigo, Cynthia, and Noire. The best he can do is get sired by either Frederick, Virion, or Ricken, and of them, I would consider Virion to be his first choice given that he offers additional Skill and Speed to shore up Lissa's modifiers and it allows him acquire the Mage class to boost Owain's Magic proficiency and to gain access to Focus for an additional Crit+ skill if you want to lean that way plus he gets the Wyvern Rider class set which have great benefits of their own.

That said, unless you want a Morgan with the worst potential Skill cap, Morgan nor the Avatar have no real use for Owain.

Basically, he comes with a diverse, though maybe not the most useful, class set out of the box and can diversify into both physical and magical disciplines if he wants, but he has to fight against his mother's cap modifiers, there aren't many fathers that do him a lot of good, and the few that are probably want to be elsewhere instead. At least he gets his own exclusive legendary weapon even if its only slightly better than a stock Steel Sword (and if you know to send him to the right house during his recruitment stage or get lucky on the Regalia DLC).
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