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4606  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Best **Badass** Moments in games on: July 02, 2013, 12:52:50 AM
I thought that Blitzball FMV at the beginning of FFX, after Tidus gets done signing autographs and acting all cool with the crowd, was pretty badass.  It looked like a rough, badass, futuristic sport, like underwater rugby, with a metal song playing in the background.  Tidus even had that look when he sent that opposing player flying into the stands.   

Too bad he turned out to be one of those entitled, kinda spoilt-bratty, whiny type jocks with "first world problem" daddy issues. 

Don't forget that the game itself wasn't that hot either, and got really boring really fast.

Which reminds me, why does everyone adore Auron for being a badass?  Give a guy some shades and a giant sword and, voila, badass??
Yeah, I liked that Titus cutscene at the start too.  90% of jocks are much more calmer and cooler than he is.

That's pretty much my guess. Having an ensemble almost lifted straight out of Naruto didn't help matters either. (Even though Sephiroth was even more overrated for an almost entirely black outfit, long flowing white hair, and eyes as bishe as whoa (then again, he also had a long ass sword and a dead chick mounted on his mantle).)

Actually, my real guess is that teenagers are fucking morons. Especially if the majority of their literary experience derives from those little text boxes in video games or comic book speech bubbles.

Kinda like Wolverine really. Give a guy the ability to not die ever, claws, an attitude, and a bunch of super friends to attitude at while making them look like chumps, and watch like a dozen comic book mini series and nearly half a dozen movies about the guy roll on in.


And getting back on the subject yet again, the second fight in Riovanes Castle in FFT (provided you aren't brick walled by it). Namely because you just wrecked the guy who just wrecked an entire castle nearly single-handed plus his pals (plus you just got through probably the most difficult battle in a game with several difficult battles).
4607  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: July 02, 2013, 12:36:09 AM
Alright Atlus/Marvelous/Sega/Namdai. I put my money on Project X Zone. Ball's in your court now. Localize SRW:OGs2/VC3.
4608  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGfan Community Quiz Quiz Show! on: July 02, 2013, 12:31:47 AM
Ah, but it was decided just after you left the chat. I was going to do Suikoden II, but people didn't feel comfortable with that. In the end it was settled the game would be...


*~Quiz #4 - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64)~*
Date: July 13th 2013
Time: (Countdown Clock Here!)


Having never played a Zelda game before, my boyfriend will be making the questions for this quiz. I'll still be researching them to make sure they are airtight though.

I got one!

What color was the cartridge originally?

A: Gold.

Q: What is the least possible number of hearts needed to beat the game with?

A: I'll tell you once I perform my minimalist run on the game.
4609  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Fire Emblem 3DS on: July 02, 2013, 12:28:35 AM
Today's NUNPRIESTWITHANAXE Libra's birthday.

He got a Tree Branch that it made him pray to Naga, and a Superior Lance. I'm thinking about making him a father to somebody, but I'm stuck.

Ah Libra, the walking FE reference (well, less so than Tiki or Anna, but more so than pretty much every other G1er). Unlike the other G1 characters who only fit into general FE archetypes, Libra is pretty much FE4's Claude with a bit of FE7's Lucius's androgyny thrown in for good measure (not that Claude wasn't androgynous looking to begin with but it was never caused any confusion). Like Claude, he's one of the last recruitable potential fathers, he comes as a prepromoted healer, and he's more or less the game's male Resistance tank for G1. Unfortunately, there's no Valkyrie Staff in this game, anybody who has access to Staffs can use Fortify, no Holy Blood affecting growths, and he can't use offensive magic in his default class (instead opting for a hybrid class which, alongside Dark Knight and the DLC Dread Fighter, are the only classes he has that uses Strength at all). He's the only pure mage male in the game and it shows with his limited reclass set (i.e. Priests can become War Priests and Sages, Mages can become Sages or Dark Knights, and Dark Mages can become Dark Knights or Sorcerers), which means he has the second fewest class options next to Donnel. At least his classes all play well with each other and lead up to the ever fantastic Sorcerer.

As a father though Libra has the Dark Mage class line and little else. Unfortunately for Libra, out of all the children only Brady and Laurent are naturally inclined towards magic based classes (aside from Morgan who's position is mostly determined by his/her mother/father the Avatar, and perhaps Cynthia but he can't sire her either way) and both are male. As such their options for magic based classes are severely limited to Mage, Priest, Dark Mage, and Thief (kinda) class lines (the last of which Libra isn't even offering to begin with) thus Brady would only inherit Dark Mage/Sorcerer classes and Laurent would only inherit the far less valuable Priest/War Priest classes. On the other hand though, Inigo, Kjelle, and Yarne are the kids who would make the best use of Libra's class set as their mothers provide no magically inclined class beyond the Thief line, but even then Kjelle would rather have someone give her Galeforce access instead. Granted there's the possibility of passing down his magic classes to a daughter but unfortunately both Noire and Severa have default access to the Dark Mage line, Nah has overlap with the Mage line and is short on class options to begin with due to having Manakete, and along with Cynthia, Lucina cannot be sired by Libra. Thus Inigo and Yarne are the only kids who care about Libra at all (and yet he's still not even within either of their top four potential dads). Moreover, nobody really cares about Libra's meager +1 Res modifier since the most common Res cap modifier in G1 males is a flat 0 or a minor -1 (and the worst is -2; and all G2 characters get a +1 to all of their modifiers making -3 the worst possible Res cap for a G2 character). Hell, its more important that a child be male to have access to Dread Fighter and its Res +10 skill than to be sired by Libra (even a Libra!Brady/Nah can't get Morgan more than a +8 to his/her Res cap) in terms of Res. And Libra doesn't even have growth rates to fall back on since the father can only influence a third of a child's growth rates and there's nothing like Holy Blood, skills (and equipment) that can only be gained through inheritance, or fixed weapon ranks that can only be raised through promotion like Claude could fall back on.

The tl;dr is that he's a decent prepromote when you first get him that can turn into a fairly good staff bot/nosfertank later on in the main game but he's also a terrible father with only the promise of Dark Mage access keeping him from becoming a confirmed bachelor for life.
4610  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Best **Badass** Moments in games on: July 01, 2013, 07:45:08 PM
Y'know, taking every opportunity available to insult a game or franchise even when it adds nothing to the discussion at hand seems kind of... cheap.

I think he's talking about blitzball and not FFX itself.

^This. The cutscene would have you think that Blitzball is more than underwater soccer which it unfortunately isn't. And its not even a good not-soccer simulator given that Blitzball's difficulty is entirely front loaded (which can only be surmounted if you obtain the game breaking move from that one QTE on the boat; otherwise you're stuck waiting until you can start grinding bigger numbers) and outside of its introduction in the plot all its good for is to grind for Wakka's stuffs.

And while I may not like FFX in some ways, its definitely not a game I can honestly say that I hate or is shit.


Anyways, to the topic at hand, the reunion with Lavitz in Legend of Dragoon after he leaves your party is another contribution I'm making to the pile of badass.
4611  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Best **Badass** Moments in games on: July 01, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
I thought that Blitzball FMV at the beginning of FFX, after Tidus gets done signing autographs and acting all cool with the crowd, was pretty badass.  It looked like a rough, badass, futuristic sport, like underwater rugby, with a metal song playing in the background.  Tidus even had that look when he sent that opposing player flying into the stands.   

Too bad he turned out to be one of those entitled, kinda spoilt-bratty, whiny type jocks with "first world problem" daddy issues. 

Don't forget that the game itself wasn't that hot either, and got really boring really fast.
4612  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st on: July 01, 2013, 05:35:30 PM
Now that Don Mattrick as CEO of Zynga has been confirmed.... something foul is in the air. Zynga is many things, but they certainly aren't stupid. So why would they want the guy that basically destroyed customer confidence in the XBox name? Especially considering that Zynga themselves aren't very well loved by the gaming community.

The simplest explanation would be that Mattrick is bringing over some of his Microsoft money and is personally investing it in Zynga.

They probably offered him a lot of money and he took them up on the offer.  I love some of the quotes online I've read:

"Wow, with stuff like EA and the Xbox One DRM launch on his resume, this guy should fit right in at Zynga! Welcome aboard, sir! "

"If you want to play FarmVille offline, we have a product for you - It's called "Agriculture.'"

That, or he's trying to dodge a bullet by taking another one.
4613  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st on: July 01, 2013, 03:55:49 PM

I imagine people are quite pleased with this result. Dude has not been making friends among gamers recently.
I do feel at least cautiously optimistic about the xbone now. It still needs to lose the mandatory kinect (as in no longer needs to be connected to run).

As if there weren't enough asswipes in Zynga already.
4614  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: July 01, 2013, 01:07:01 PM
FE:Awakening "Have fun storming the castle!" Edition part 1.

Finally took down chapter 19 after a trial run basically spelled doom and gloom for everyone not named Chrom or Est. Causalities were minimal yet acceptable (alas, poor Alm and Moulder, I knew thee well) and Altenna and Raquesis are now ready to reclass into other classes. I had Quan paired with Athena take the south east corner and tank about half the map, unfortunately Sol didn't proc for him on enemy phase 1 forcing me to send Raquesis over to heal him instead of clearing out an enemy that ended up killing Alm, otherwise he pretty much soloed the eastern half of the map (aside from Altenna popping in to draw some arggo) even though by the end of the battle most of his weapons were spent. Athena spent the battle in Quan's pocket and holding an Armorslayer which she used to great effect. Alm started off with chipping but unlucky Pavise procs left him in the range of four enemies, two of whom were at critical, and Quan's inability to proc Sol on EP 1 forced me to choose between sacrificing him or Quan. Amelia, who was paired with Alm, got shoved into Chrom's pocket for the rest of the battle. Mia and Mycen were also in pockets not really doing anything (Mycen missed a lot, and Mia couldn't scratch a damn thing). Micaiah sat out for most of the battle but spotted an opportunity to save Raquesis's life by switching out and tanking a single Wyvern Lord's attack (and smoking him with an Arcwind counter with a large quantity of Vengeance damage). Moulder also didn't do much since he was in Est's pocket for most of the time, except for when he tried to sneak in a heal after I thought I had dealt with all of the stage's asshat reinforcements (I had forgotten that there were five rounds of reinforcements, the last of which dumped enemies from every unoccupied fort on the fucking map), he almost survived my mistake. Chrom spent his first full battle as a Bow Knight building his bow ranks (which bit me in the ass on EP1 when most of the western enemies attacked from within his range shadow), cleaning up stray enemies with either a Silver Sword or his Bronze Bow, or tanking asshat reinforcements, he also started the fight against Walhart by doing significant damage to him with an Underdog Bow (which didn't get a power boost but still had better Might than an Iron Bow). Altenna spent most of the fight smacking down enemies or drawing arggo from Quan and being stupidly tough in general, as she hit level 15 during the fight she now has to find a new class to wreck shit in (or Dark Flier to eventually join the Galeforce Force). Florina, Seliph, and Est were my Galeforce Force for the fight, charging about, and killing enemies for the most part. Florina still has trouble surviving more than a hit or two but she's beginning to turn it around as a Wyvern Lord. Seliph had trouble killing enemies, even with an Eirika's Blade and Armorslayer, but between him and Florina they were able to tank enough hits to make it through the fight (even if both of them should've died at some point or another). Est continues to be motherfucking Est and was either killing enemies or tanking enemy phases, she also snuck in a couple of hits against Walhart using her Hand Axe after Chrom had his shot at him but she was still unable to defeat him (that duty fell to Florina and a hit from her Silver Lance). And Raquesis spent most of the fight providing Catharsis to Quan, although she did get a kill or two in and even drew a little arggo from Quan, and she hit level 15 too (gaining the ever valuable Dual Support+ which is a free +10 to Hit, Avoid, Evade, and Crit) so now she needs to decide on going up Sage for more Magic or Falcon Knight to maintain her current mobility and Rally Speed for eventual Rally Botting. Now to track down replacements for Alm and Moulder and take on Smash Brethren 1.

As for the unfortunate grinding I've had to partake in. I've made....
-One run through Champions of Yore 1.
-One run through Champions of Yore 2.
-One run through Champions of Yore 3. (The All Stats +2 skill scroll went to Chrom respectfully.)
-One run through Lost Bloodlines 1.
-One run through Lost Bloodlines 2. (The Dread Fighter scroll is sitting in my inventory for now but its going to Chrom eventually.)
-One run through Lost Bloodlines 3. (The Paragon skill scroll went to Chrom respectfully.)
-Seven runs through Golden Gaffe. (I managed to collect all of the funds on the fourth, sixth, and seventh runs.)
-One run through Exponential Experience.
-One run through Harvest Scramble.
-One skirmish battle.
4615  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st on: July 01, 2013, 11:35:29 AM

I AM JUST A NEW BOY. A STRANGER IN THIS TOWN.




http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/30/ouya-works-much-better-with-a-playstation-3-controller/

I HAVE NO GOOD CONTROLLERS, AND I MUST PLAY!
4616  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Best **Badass** Moments in games on: July 01, 2013, 11:30:09 AM
Galuf in the Sealed Forest in FFV (although its somewhat less badass if you enter into that sequence as a White Mage).

Hell, Galuf in general is king badass what with being a world saving hero, flies around in a meteor, storms a castle single-handed to save the rest of the party, and then there's the stuff in the Sealed Forest plus the stuff that he gets in with the rest of the party.

his sacrifice somewhat less badass as you get someone with the exact same powers and skills like 2 minutes later.

my moment, probably the shootout in red dead redemption, you guys know which one.

To be fair though, given that the game's character development system basically required having all four party members with you for most of the game so that nobody falls behind in Job development, the fact that they killed anybody off at all was a pretty ballsy maneuver.

I mean, compare with Dragon Quest VII where you lose Maribel for a significant portion of the game and is replaced by Aira and the only thing Aira has coming into the party is a couple levels in Warrior and maxed out Dancer (which is the fastest class to max out in the game so its not even that big of a deal). By the time Maribel comes back, not only has Aira probably surpassed her in class levels but she can only get on the team if Gabo (aka the only guy other than the MC to have stuck around since opening up the game's class system and thus is tied with the most class levels on the team) takes the bench in her place.

The tl;dr is that DQVII was pretty stupid with its class system while FFV wasn't, even if it meant conferring everything invested in Galuf onto his granddaughter immediately after his death.


Also, what were you expecting? An angst montage? In a game where a turtle dukes it out with a sentient tree parading around in a suit of armor DBZ style? Well okay, there were a couple, but they still didn't dwell on them for long like in later FF games.
4617  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Best **Badass** Moments in games on: June 30, 2013, 11:55:16 PM
Galuf in the Sealed Forest in FFV (although its somewhat less badass if you enter into that sequence as a White Mage).

Hell, Galuf in general is king badass what with being a world saving hero, flies around in a meteor, storms a castle single-handed to save the rest of the party, and then there's the stuff in the Sealed Forest plus the stuff that he gets in with the rest of the party.
4618  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGfan Community Quiz Quiz Show! on: June 29, 2013, 04:28:29 PM
I just want to say....

FUCK YOU MIBBIT!!!!!!!

YOU HAVE ALL OF MY HATE!!!!!
4619  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGfan Community Quiz Quiz Show! on: June 29, 2013, 09:48:43 AM
Just to check, its still the same quiz time, same quiz channel?

If so then hopefully its not too late to sign up.
4620  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: FINAL FANTASY XV, This is a fantasy based on reality. on: June 28, 2013, 10:02:10 PM
Also, we should start a betting pool on FFXV's plot points. Anyone interested?

I'll throw in:
>Focus shifts from small adventure to saving the world
>True antagonist doesn't show up until third act
>Final boss ends up being some sort of god-like being
>Some plot point about amnesia/messed up memory
>Comic relief character does something to help save the day
>Main party gets their hands on the last crystal at some point, but it gets stolen from them somehow.

There will be a betrayal
Noctis father will kick the bucket
Both nations will be almost destroyed by the true threat
There will be some type of peace talk between the two countries
Noctis mother will be of unknown origin and important to the plot.
Main party gets captured by the enemy

These are all fucking excellent.

Also:
One of the party members dies.


In addition to those...

There will be a persistent rival to Noctis.
You wont get the game's airship until you've nearly fully explored the map.
There will be a reference to characters from earlier games like FFs IV, VI, VII, VIII, X, and XIII.
There will be a super boss near the end that's far more difficult to fight than even the final boss in his final form.
The best weapon in the game will be awarded to anyone who can beat said super boss.
Until the DLC hits and there's even more super/gimmicky bosses that'll reward you with even better weapons/equipment.
There will be a DLC with an alternate ending that's basically almost exactly the same as the game's actual ending but with an extra couple of frames added to it.
The extra ending will cheapen whatever standard ending went with and will set up a sequel.
There will also be obnoxious minigames.
And the best non superboss gear must be looted from stupidly rare drops from stupidly rare enemies hidden in massively obscure locations.
There will also be a piece of top tier gear that can only be obtained if you never open certain, unmarked chests scattered about throughout the game and if you make it to the pedestal right before the final boss chamber in under 10 hours.


Oh, and the piano teacher in Phantasy Star 2 was gay.  It was just censored out in the US version.  In the Japanese version he'd give cheaper piano lessons to guys he thought were cute, but in the US version he'd give guys discount rates because he thought men were smarter.  So what's worse?  A gay piano teacher or a sexist one?  I'll take gay over sexist any day.  


There's the PC JRPG series Lightning Warrior Raidy that's got an openly gay protagonist. Of course they're PC games made in Japan so obviously its entirely FTP.

Comedy option aside and despite the white washing for the US release, Fire Emblem 10's Heather was pretty openly gay for the girls (even in the US version the subtext is still there, just not as explicit). And while there were other characters in the series that were implied to be interested in the same sex (namely Raven X Lucius and Lyn X Florina; both from the first western FE) none have been open or explicit about it.

There's also the Summon Night SCS games but that's more due to laziness on the writers part since both games were written for a male lead first and added a female lead with a handwave to the fanservice directed at the male lead.

There's also the occasional gay character in an Super Robot Wars game. But all of those stem from the source material rather than from the games themselves, and none of the original characters are openly gay for each other (although a case can be made for Sanger X Rastel and Latooni X Shine but you'd need your shipping glasses on for those) Ibis and one of her copilots are fairly open about their relationship (but I forget which one and just how open the relationship was). On the plus side Ibis is one of the OG leads for the Alpha series, so there's one openly gay JRPG lead in a not porn game (provided I'm recalling correctly). There's also at least one or more gay original antagonist in the series but unfortunately the series villains are pretty much walking lumps of villainous stereotypes which doesn't help matters in the least.

And speaking of the SRW games there's also the Queen's Blade/Gate games from the same studio that probably has a gay character or two in there or somewhere (amongst pretty much every other conceivable fantasy fetish out there that the entire QB cast represents and is almost entirely FTP as well). The QG characters are decidedly less fetish fuel but a) there aren't any openly gay characters (although a few get really fucking close) and b) just like with the non OG SRW characters above, they're simply bringing what's already been established elsewhere to the table.

And finally Chrono Trigger's Flea, but that's more transgendered rather than straight gay.
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