Right, because there was no such thing as civilization prior to the introduction of Christianity. All the Greeks and Romans did was sacrifice children and kill each other, instead of developing mathematics, inventing democracy, or laying the foundations for modern medicine.
That's a load of crap. First of all, I didn't say they didnt' have any positive effect on civilization, merely stating that before Christianity there were wars, there was violence, everything which is being attributed to Christianity, in an even greater scale. You seem to disregard all that because they "developed mathematics, invented democracy, and laid the foundations for modern medicine". By your same logic, I could say it is BS what people say about religion killing thousands, because it's not like all the civilization developments were stopped during Medieval times, when Christianity was more powerful - quite the contrary, it were the Christians who preserved the ancient classic writings.
Secondly, you act as if the Northern Hemisphere was populated by Greeks and Romans solely, which is totally laughable. There were Slavs, Celts and Germanics too, all of them with their constant wars and violent rituals/custumes.
All in all, I said wars, violence and brutality existed before Christianity - in an even larger scale - in response to someone who attributed those things to the Christian religion, and then you jumped to say there were mathematics, democracy and science before it. How moronic is that? Totally nonsensical, two different things altogether.
I was going to mention the whole Eastern religions - spirituality if you will - being more "peaceful" deal, but it was done already, so I will just add a little piece of info. Take for instance medieval Japan. How was that peaceful? Musashi, who beside being the greatest samurai ever lived was a "philosopher" of sorts as well, deeply believed the way of the sword was the only way of true balance and "peace". His swordfighting - which led to the killing of hundreds - was deeply interwined with his spirituality.
you still see things like the Holocaust, Darfur, Northern Ireland, the Crusades, AIDS, cancer, muscular dystrophy, etc., is a ludicrous idea entirely.
You aren't one of those who believe God is BS because there is "so much evil in this world" are you? Because, no offense, this is a totally flawed reasoning, and even childish.
I will try to be short, I don't mean to convert you or anything, so I will just give you a brief explanation.
First of all, there is something called free will. If God was to show up here and make all those things disappear, there would be no doubt about his existance, he would be imposing on us his existance and superiority. The mere thought of believe would become a non-issue. There would be little use for free will or real faith, and that's not the point of Christianity. But I guess you probably heard that before, so I will end this here.
The second point, and this one is the most important, is that you - well, people in general - tend to think in good and evil through totally earthly and humane perceptions, which is flawed, as God is beyond that. What I mean is, good and evil are purely human concepts, and God can't be analysed or understanded by our own limited and flawed perceptions, which can't grasp God fully. And here is the most important aspect of this, when you think about a truly horrid tragedy, you think, that's so evil, how can God allow that? He can't be real! Take for instance the Beslan massacre. Poor children were killed by terrorists, I know that's revolting, and the first thing which goes through someone's mind is "that's total evil and unfair, either God doesn't exist, or he is just evil". But here lies the error in the reasoning. You are thinking through purely earthly and humane patterns. What is the death of those children compared to life after death and the immortality of Soul? They just passed from an inferiour plane to a higher one of true "hapiness" - for the lack of a better word. Yeah, the people who were left behind will grieve and suffer, no doubt about that, but I what mean is, in the grand
scheme of things, when you thing about the immortality of their souls, their deaths mean "nothing", it's just a passage.
I know that if you don't believe in God nothing of that matters, after all you won't believe in the immortality of the Soul or in life after death, and that's fine, but if you do believe in those things, that's a totally sensical and logical reasoning, which explain the whole issue of "bad" things which occur down here.
In short, that means that considering those things evil, should be the consequence of not believing in God, rather than the cause? You see what I mean? Not trying to convert you, I don't believe these things can happen like that, much less through an internet board, just putting things into the right perspective.
You have already proved you are a total retard which can't argue a single point, so if you don't have pictures to show, you better just shut the fuck up.