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1  The Rest / General Discussions / Battle of the New Atheism on: October 26, 2006, 11:45:42 AM
Who says you can shatter my ego? If you mess with me, I am gonna answer, as simple as that.
Plus, you better decide which I am, either a fascist, or an EMO crybabe, because those two things can't really co-exist. So, which shall be?
2  The Rest / General Discussions / Battle of the New Atheism on: October 26, 2006, 11:29:01 AM
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Right, because there was no such thing as civilization prior to the introduction of Christianity. All the Greeks and Romans did was sacrifice children and kill each other, instead of developing mathematics, inventing democracy, or laying the foundations for modern medicine.


That's a load of crap. First of all, I didn't say they didnt' have any positive effect on civilization, merely stating that before Christianity there were wars, there was violence, everything which is being attributed to Christianity, in an even greater scale. You seem to disregard all that because they "developed mathematics, invented democracy, and laid the foundations for modern medicine". By your same logic, I could say it is BS what people say about religion killing thousands, because it's not like all the civilization developments were stopped during Medieval times, when Christianity was more powerful - quite the contrary, it were the Christians who preserved the ancient classic writings.
Secondly, you act as if the Northern Hemisphere was populated by Greeks and Romans solely, which is totally laughable. There were Slavs, Celts and Germanics too, all of them with their constant wars and violent rituals/custumes.
All in all, I said wars, violence and brutality existed before Christianity - in an even larger scale - in response to someone who attributed those things to the Christian religion, and then you jumped to say there were mathematics, democracy and science before it. How moronic is that? Totally nonsensical, two different things altogether.

I was going to mention the whole Eastern religions - spirituality if you will - being more "peaceful" deal, but it was done already, so I will just add a little piece of info. Take for instance medieval Japan. How was that peaceful? Musashi, who beside being the greatest samurai ever lived was a "philosopher" of sorts as well, deeply believed the way of the sword was the only way of true balance and "peace". His swordfighting - which led to the killing of hundreds - was deeply interwined with his spirituality.

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you still see things like the Holocaust, Darfur, Northern Ireland, the Crusades, AIDS, cancer, muscular dystrophy, etc., is a ludicrous idea entirely.


You aren't one of those who believe God is BS because there is "so much evil in this world" are you? Because, no offense, this is a totally flawed reasoning, and even childish.
I will try to be short, I don't mean to convert you or anything, so I will just give you a brief explanation.
First of all, there is something called free will. If God was to show up here and make all those things disappear, there would be no doubt about his existance, he would be imposing on us his existance and superiority.  The mere thought of believe would become a non-issue. There would be little use for free will or real faith, and that's not the point of Christianity. But I guess you probably heard that before, so I will end this here.
The second point, and this one is the most important, is that you - well, people in general - tend to think in good and evil through totally earthly and humane perceptions, which is flawed, as God is beyond that. What I mean is, good and evil are purely human concepts, and God can't be analysed or understanded by our own limited and flawed perceptions, which can't grasp God fully. And here is the most important aspect of this, when you think about a truly horrid tragedy, you think, that's so evil, how can God allow that? He can't be real! Take for instance the Beslan massacre. Poor children were killed by terrorists, I know that's revolting, and the first thing which goes through someone's mind is "that's total evil and unfair, either God doesn't exist, or he is just evil". But here lies the error in the reasoning. You are thinking through purely earthly and humane patterns. What is the death of those children compared to life after death and the immortality of Soul? They just passed from an inferiour plane to a higher one of true "hapiness" - for the lack of a better word. Yeah, the people who were left behind will grieve and suffer, no doubt about that, but I what mean is, in the grand scheme of things, when you thing about the immortality of their souls, their deaths mean "nothing", it's just a passage.
I know that if you don't believe in God nothing of that matters, after all you won't believe in the immortality of the Soul or in life after death, and that's fine, but if you do believe in those things, that's a totally sensical and logical reasoning, which explain the whole issue of "bad" things which occur down here.
In short, that means that considering those things evil, should be the consequence of not believing in God, rather than the cause? You see what I mean? Not trying to convert you, I don't believe these things can happen like that, much less through an internet board, just putting things into the right perspective.

Leyviur,

You have already proved you are a total retard which can't argue a single point, so if you don't have pictures to show, you better just shut the fuck up.
3  The Rest / General Discussions / 1up feature: Curse of the Sequels on: October 25, 2006, 06:11:25 PM
Alundra 2 is surely the worst offender, because the first one was just amazing.
FFVIII I really didn't like. The draw system, the fact I had to keep using those GF that would take 1-3 minutes of animation, which made battles a drag. The laughable
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BS plot twist. Plus, it was the poorest World I have ever seen in a RPG - in any FF at least - there was like what, 3 Gardens and two totally uninspiring towns? Of course, there was Squall too.
CC I enjoyed, but it had the worst battle theme I have ever heard. I had to mute it to do battle, something I never do. I like CT better, but it's not a bad game.
I only have read the second page of the topic, but I am surprised no one has mentione FFT:Advance. Granted, I have never played this game, but I heard the worst things about it.
I can't remember another one.
4  The Rest / General Discussions / Wii pre-orders start tomorrow! on: October 25, 2006, 05:25:33 PM
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I heard you get upgraded bombs, swords, and shields!!!


:)
5  The Rest / General Discussions / Wii pre-orders start tomorrow! on: October 25, 2006, 05:01:12 PM
What kinds of spoilers you fear in a Zelda game anyway? People praising how awesome it is?
6  The Rest / General Discussions / Battle of the New Atheism on: October 25, 2006, 04:58:31 PM
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A concept of God does not necessarily imply an all-powerful or even fatherly figure that controls everything. Certainly, the core of Hindu deity worship has nothing to do with that. In even more abstract terms, a Buddhist does not believe in a deity per se, but in a state of total oneness, which may well be related as a reflection of a God that is pervasiveness itself. Thus, the word "God" does not imply an individual at all.


Yeah, but I don't think he is concerned with bashing non-monotheist religions.

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My simple thought is this. The Atheists primary problem with religion is belief in something that is not there, has no evidence to support it, and simply makes no sense.


There is no "scientific" evidence to claim one thing or the other, to both believers and atheists though.
As to not making any sense, well, I think the exact opposite. The universe with all it's balance and order makes no sense without God.
I don't think it makes much sense to say we evolved from CO2 either.

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Many atrocities have been done in the name of some "god" who didn't seem have a say in things either way. While Dawkins writes as if these things may not have occurred had it not been for religion, I disagree with him. Man will always find another excuse to kill each other.


At least in the Northern Hemisphere, before Christianity, everything was a lot more brutal and violent. Human sacrifices, whatever other bloody rituals pagans were into. Wars? They were as ordinary as changing your clothes.

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The targets are those who actually believe in a "god" watching over everything they do, Christianity in specific. More peaceful "religions" like those described by Hidoshi would not fall under this category.


That's BS and biased? More "peaceful" religions? I don't think so.
7  The Rest / General Discussions / Battle of the New Atheism on: October 25, 2006, 11:29:16 AM
There are basically two types of atheists, the ones who don't believe for cynicism, convenience, disbelief, anger, etc - whatever is the reason, it don't matter. And the ones who are so for an "intellectual" motivation. They believe being an atheist equals being smart, or that being smart, you couldn't be anything other than an atheist. If you are not too bright, at least you can fool yourself into believing you are actually smart, for not believing in "fairy tales".
I don't respect the second type, and this Dawkins certainly fits the
8  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Anyone playing Baten Kaitos Origins? on: October 25, 2006, 10:57:37 AM
Only after the price drops. There are enough games for me to buy - FFXII, Zelda and a bunch of others I missed and which should be cheap by now - while I wait till it gets cheaper.
By the way, I did not mind the first one's VA either.
9  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Phantasy Star Universe on: October 24, 2006, 08:02:22 PM
Will you play it for real, with FFXII coming out pretty soon?
10  Media / Single-Player RPGs / FFXII pre order price on: October 24, 2006, 08:01:25 PM
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Circuit city has it for $38 on release day.


Cool, but those online stores charge 30/40 USD for shipping. It's an absurd.
EDIT: There is one for 42. I pretty much recommend Ebay if you are thinking about buying this game from oversea. I am asking all of them if they will be shipping on October 31, I will let you know once I get the replies.
11  Media / Single-Player RPGs / FFXII pre order price on: October 24, 2006, 07:11:53 PM
So, I want to pre order this game on Ebay. I have seen one for 50 USD - plus shipping - and I would like to know if that will be indeed the retail price, or if that's a rip-off?
I have never bought a game on it's release date - much less a pre-order - so I am a bit lost.
PS: Might as well turn this thread into a FFXII one, since there will be one soon anyway.
EDIT: I found one for 45 plus S&H. Well, I suppose the retail price will not be any lower than that, so I will chose one of them and just pre-order right now.
12  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Help. Need good story RPG for current Gen..clueless on: October 24, 2006, 06:52:41 PM
I agree with two. Plus, the graphics did not help much, although they wouldn't bother me if those other flaws were not present.
13  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Help. Need good story RPG for current Gen..clueless on: October 24, 2006, 12:30:34 PM
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I think Sui V sucks...but it's not because of the silent protagonist, which I happen to love.


The encounter rate and lack of challenge?
14  The Rest / General Discussions / PC World: Top Ten worst games ever on: October 23, 2006, 07:30:37 PM
There was this "game", which most probably is the worst I have ever played "Perfect Weapon". It was for the PSX, but I guess it had a PC version as well. It had the absolutely worst controls in any "action" game ever... oh, and I could never get past the first level because my life meter would keep decreasing - I guess because it was a snowy enviroment - and the character was just too slow to get to the end of the level without dying first.
So I guess that was the absolutely worst.
15  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Tales of the Abyss on: October 23, 2006, 10:20:36 AM
Wait, aren't you from Israel? You have PAL there as well as in Europe?
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