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631  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: November 11, 2010, 04:55:59 AM
i have a question i was looking over some of the abilities and there is way to many aoe moves. also the pugilist has way too many moves that depend on you evading an attack. now i played a monk in ffxi wich has B evasion and i think i skilled up evasion more times than i actually evaded attacks. and what if your pugilist in a party with a proper tank? wont you be nerfed by the fact that so many of your abilities require you to evade? from what i've read so far lancer looks like the best class. at least for my tastes. i'm guessing theres something i'm missing here?

The PUG has alot of abilities that do require evasion, but remember that 90% of the abilities within the Disciplines are interchangeable. Your encouraged to level more than one class, and almost all of the DoW classes have useful attacks and abilities by level 10-16 to mix into your class of choice.  PUGs are definately viable tanks as are MRDs but they don't suffer one bit if they aren't in the tanking role. Concussive Blow is your bread and butter as PUG (it stacks), but mix it in with Skull Sunder from MRD (damage on hit as well as DoT for very low TP cost) and hell, any WS's from Lancer and they do even more obnoxious damage. Once you get Pummel (your first purchasable guild mark attack) you'll feel like your using Hundred-Fists all the time. Throw in Feint (LNC 20) and your misses proc a WS with 100% accuracy.

LNC is a fun class, but its probably the next to lowest damage output class of the DoW (GLD being the lowest). Its a versatile class with alot of debuffs and abilites to aid your parties HP and TP regen/regain but accuracy is a MAJOR issue -which is why it gets Feint. PUGs, ARC and MRDs murder the hell out mobs.
632  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: November 06, 2010, 09:17:31 PM
So sorry, I have the trolls on ignore. You were saying Thoren?
633  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: November 06, 2010, 06:23:33 PM
That's pretty shocking to hear from you Tenchi since you've been the most adamant about this game from the beginning

Well I still stand by the games potential but if there's no playerbase no amount of fixing will help it. Unlike Parn I actually stuck around to see what content was actually there after level 20, opinions prior are pretty much baseless. Sadly the SP gains become more and more deplorable for leves which leaves grinding as the only real alternative. It's nothing new for FFXI but there's no point since there's no endgame yet and since there's no engaging content after 20, just more of the same in slightly different flavors. There's more options but there's no enough variety to make it last long enough to be interesting anymore a few weeks. It's a shame too because the. Level II weaponskills are pretty cool. Battle Regemins are still unusable so combat is nothing more than WS spam. With the average SP party bring 10+ people the input lag gets pretty bad and there's no aesthetic value cause it's a non stop lightshow. Eh, who knows where the game will be come March but there is barely enough playerbase to support it now.
634  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: November 06, 2010, 03:55:00 AM
Those of you still playing, could you keep us informed if anything changes? I wouldnt mind giving the game a try, I just dont want my first experience to be met with extreme sadness.

Will do, but the situation is pretty dire right now. Folks are hitting the higher levels 30+ now with more frequency (Abyssea style grinding works - mad surplus though) but server populations have taken a nosedive. 900-1500 during peak hours on Trabia, which is a third of what it was at launch. Outside of the storyline quests there isn't much there. Factionleves are little more than new flavors of Guildleves that cost points. All the cool mobs are way too high to kill and folks are pretty much grinding on Efts or Skeletons to 50. The planned addition of NMs to Factionleves will help but they need a fundamental redesign of content. Right now leves aren't efficient to level with after level 20, and by then your sick of doing the same ones. It's like grinding daily quests in WoW from level 1. The storyline is really cool and has alot of promise but getting there is a chore. Crafting 20+ is soul crushing. I don't think the game will survive till PS3 launch from the lack of revenue if more people quit. There's potential for some great content but I don't know if SE has the competence or the passion to create it.  The game right now is so dependent on having access to other players for progression, the plummeting population means less progression for everyone, unless you go full craftsman. Unfortunately the lack of players means less trade which makes the already tedious task of crafting even less rewarding.

The main issue is that there really isn't anything in the game that could be quantified as fun. The solo experience is boring, and the group content is limited to grinding the same mobs over and over. At least in XI your endgame had some rewards for the tedium, but right now XIV is a vacuous shell devoid of players permeated with hours of empty gameplay and infrequent pockets of brilliant storytelling that just doesn't get expressed in gameplay. I can't recommend anyone getting into the game in this state. Will update you if anything monumental happens.
635  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 16, 2010, 01:00:50 AM
yeah man stupid faggots whining about an incomplete game it is square enix you should expect an incomplete game they will finish it when they feel like it you should feel privileged to play their game

btw fuck you

Stay classy Parn. Maybe if you actually spent the time and effort playing and participating with the rest of the LS, you'd be of a higher level and find something redeeming about the game. But, since you're more content taking my posts out of context and attacking me, you'll fall behind like you did in XI and ragequit again.
636  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 15, 2010, 10:07:46 AM
They're also giving everyone a free month of their free trial for everyone who registered before Oct 25th.

637  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 15, 2010, 09:54:28 AM
Hopefully this means we can get back to meaningful discussion instead of QQ.

Ask the Dev's FAQ 10/15/10
Ask the Devs! (10/15/2010)
The development and management teams continue to address the questions and concerns of the community in an ongoing FAQ.

The topic addressed this time around is the upcoming version update.

User Interface

Q. Exactly what type of adjustments or additions to the user interface are being planned?
A. Since the game's official release, the development team has continued their efforts in designing various new features, as well as retooling and improving existing ones. Currently, we are focusing on addressing the issues about which players have been most vocal, and are pleased to announce several key changes set to be implemented as soon as next month. The following is a partial list of what we have planned:

–Inventory Sort Feature
The late-November version update will include the addition of a feature that will allow players to sort their inventories.

–Menu Navigation
We are currently working on methods to make navigating the game's menus simpler and more efficient. In the forthcoming version update, we will focus on improving the Actions & Traits menu, starting by automating the selection of main/off hand.

In addition to the aforementioned improvements, the following adjustments are also planned:

Players will be able to scroll their maps via dragging the mouse
A player's current coordinates will now be displayed on the main map
A player's current coordinates will now be displayed on journal maps (as long as the player is in the same area)
Players will be able to relay their current coordinates to others using the text command <pos>
The area name will be added to journal maps
A journal map feature will be added to the main map
The log window will no longer be hidden when maps are displayed

Log Window and Chat
New tabs will be added to the log window
Players will be able to open multiple log windows
Controller functionality will be added to the log window
Players will be able to use Ctrl+R to send instant replies to /tells
Players will be able to change chat modes via menu options
The Home and End keys will now function in the chat log
For players typing multi-byte characters, starting a new message with "/" will automatically switch the typeset to single byte
Players will be able to adjust the font color for various chat modes
Adjustments will be made to the transparency of the log window when unfocused

A Loot List icon will be added
A Loot List option will be added to the System Menu
The general layout of several menus will be adjusted
Previously completed quests will now appear in players' journals

Adjustments will be made to target priority when using the Tab key to cycle through nearby targets
When targeting a party member, a target mark will now appear next to the target's name in the party member list
Players will be able to target party members via the party member list

Keyboard Settings
Several new functions will be added to the keyboard, such as a key used for targeting NPCs
Players will now be able to re-map all functions to any key (other than Esc)

Looking beyond the late-November version update, the team is also working on introducing drag and drop functionality to the Equipment & Gear and Actions & Traits menus, map markers indicating the location of party members, a method to initiate message input in the chat log without having to press the space bar, and more.

Markets and Retainers

Q. Today's maintenance introduced several changes to the Markets. Are there further changes planned?
A. The Markets have been a hot topic since the game's release, and today's maintenance was the first step in making this feature better suited to the needs of the players. With that step we saw the introduction of a one-click targeting system, making it easier to access a retainer's list of wares. We also saw a renaming of the wards combined with a reduced-tax system aimed to promote a more organized distribution of goods, therefore making it easier for players to find the items they seek.

For our next step, we plan on introducing additional features to make navigating the Markets even easier. These include the implementation of a search feature that will not only help players locate items in a Market district, but then display an icon next to the retainers who have those items, reducing the hassle of having to look through the inventories of retainers who may not have what a player seeks.

Return and Teleport Cost

Q. Return and Teleport have made travel within Eorzea quick and easy, but it seems like I am always running out of anima. Are there any adjustments being planned?
A. Yes. The first adjustment, which increased the speed at which anima regenerates, was implemented during a recent maintenance. The second adjustment, planned for the late-November version update, will see a significant reduction in the amount of anima required to teleport or return. To be specific, the cost for Returning will be reduced to 1, and halved for Teleportation to one of up to three "favorite" aetheryte destinations designated by the player.

Battle Balance

Q. What is the development team doing in the way of balancing battle?
A. Without straying from our original stance to provide players with a feasible means to play solo, we are working on improvements to the battle system that will make party play just as rewarding. One of the reasons players have little motivation to form a party is because there are currently few battles that require contriving a detailed plan of attack. To rectify this, we are currently conducting adjustments to areas such as enmity distribution rates and Battle Regimen effects. We will also be introducing several powerful creatures that will be better suited for party-based battles.

Monster Placement

Q. Where are all the monsters?
A. At the time of release, server load issues limited the number of enemies that could appear in areas where large amounts of PCs gathered, such as aetheryte camps situated near city-states. To alleviate this, we have increased the number of servers. This, combined with the fact that players are moving away from these areas and have begun to spread out over the world, will now allow us to increase the number of enemies roaming the realm.


Q. What changes and additions are planned for guildleves?
A. In the late-November update, we will be adding a new feature that allows players to adjust levequest difficulty after activating the guildleve. Furthermore, we will also be adding a feature that will allow players to abandon local levequests after accepting them.

The mid-December version update will introduce many new guildleves; among them special faction leves that pit players against deadly notorious monsters.


Q. What kind of changes are planned for synthesis?
A. The late-November patch will see adjustments to the required ranks and difficulty levels of various existing recipes, ensuring that players will have a better chance to successfully create items when reaching the optimal skill level.

For the mid-December update, we will be adding several new recipes, including ones for crafting new gear. In addition, we will be introducing a new feature that will allow players to select recipes from a list of recently crafted items and recipes learned through levequests, and set all of the appropriate ingredients with the touch of a single button, thus making repeated synthesis of a single item a snap!

Server Load

Q. The lag in some areas is lowering UI and battle response times, making it difficult to play. Why is this happening?
A. Even if a World server is not crowded, a large number of players gathering in a single place would increase server load, adversely affecting gameplay. To alleviate this, we have pinpointed heavy-traffic areas and split up their processing duties over multiple servers, reducing the chances that a single server will become overloaded.

It looks like the PS3 owners will have a much more polished and complete title out of the box. Now before people start hopping on the "this shit should have been done before retail" bus, all I can say is this is SE, and none of you should have been the least bit suprised. The game was obviously rushed to retail - and despite the issues, people are still enjoying it. Those of you who wish to continue to bash it, at least you now have proof that they are willing and capable of addressing them - which is a big step for SE given their previous history with XI. I told you so ^.~
638  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 13, 2010, 06:38:24 AM
Since this thread has turned into a quivering pile of QQ, I'm removing myself from it. Here's the link to our Factionleve event with a couple pics. http://tinyurl.com/22whlxv

Enjoy, or whine.. frankly, I don't really give a crap because reading all this makes me sad.
639  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 10, 2010, 01:47:05 AM
Japanese gamers hold a funeral for FFXIV


I read that, and thought it was pretty funny. 2ch is pretty much a cesspool though. I think it's funny that in protest they're going to play WoW. It's kinda funny that it's not available in Japan. If that was the case XIV might have been a different beast considering how much XI was inspired by EQ. Though it's important to note that Tanaka is a huge fan of D&D, which isnt known for it's user friendliness :)
640  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 09, 2010, 10:25:41 PM
LMFAO, this thread is too entertaining to close. You guys know when your being trolled right? Dios is a past master. At the least it's made this thread more lively :) Yes he's an asshole but he's our asshole and we love him. It's a shame you ALL aren't in our LS, it would be an awesome ride, akin to riding bitch between Winger and Whitesnake on a heroin fueled ride to Vegas. Seriously though, I think everyone has valid points. I think Parn pretty much nailed it on the head - the glaring problems with the game should have been fixed before the game went gold and if they aren't fixed before the free month is up, they're going to loose lots of people. You never get a second chance to make a first impression.
641  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 09, 2010, 03:03:19 AM
The holiday season will be a defining one for them, but as most other MMOs have shown, you don't need WoWs subscriber base to be successful. If FFXIV manages to keep the same numbers as XI then I'm sure they will be content. I'm sure that by the game's first anniversary there will be a dramatic change compared to what there is now, but by then will anyone care? It really sucks that alot of the major gripes people are having were issues that were not addressed in retail, because they were voiced as early as alpha last May. Time will tell and most people I've talked to are willing to give the game until PS3 launch to get it's act together.

I really appreciate what SE is trying to do with the game (player driven economy/accessible crafting) but are held back by needless design flaws. We will never see a drag and drop UI in FFXIV due to the PS3 version, but they can add add hotkeys for alot of functions. If they cloned XIs UI it would fix alot of the menu redundancy for sure. In a way if they had no intention of porting the game to console, it would be a different animal entirely. Still, I'm drawn to the potential of this game and will be willing to give them some time to work the kinks out. At least I can still play AION: Assault on Balaurea (which is surprisingly good for the PvE) when I run out of content in XIV, but that doesn't happen often.

Anyway, as most of you guys who have bought the game aren't really playing it, I'll let you know about the content variety as it unfolds. We are doing mass factionleves on Sunday and with the SP fix I'll be 25 LNC next week so will have impressions on M-6 posted up on our LS website if anyone wants to stay up to date.
642  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 09, 2010, 02:17:04 AM
I think we can all agree we want the game to succeed, and all the bad press might be a good thing. The MMO market doesn't have the kind of tolerance it did back in 2002, and there are already more accessible options out there with major competition on the horizon. SE has always done things at their own pace, to the annoyance of their fanbase and the detriment of their title. It took them a long time to get XI where it needed to be, which was when we got the NA release. The market won't give XIV 3 months much less a year. I think its funny though that they asked reviewers to wait a month before reviewing the title, which shows how unfinished it really is. I think when they fix the UI and lag issues and introduce some more content variety for earlier levels, the game will attract and keep it's playerbase, but out of the box they need to grab the audience with more than great cutscenes. Had I not gone through the motions already in XI, I'd probably be just as disappointed.

If the Japanese are as disheartened with the game as the NA press is, I'm sure heads will be rolling if alot of these issues aren't fixed quickly. There's supposed to be a monster patch next week so we will see what is addressed.
643  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 08, 2010, 11:55:19 PM
I think alot of it has to do with the fact that you never played XI Thoren. For most of us who did, alot of this wasn't a shock and we've been playing with a controller and menu trees for years. I agree with your statement of "This is a PC MMO and 2010," but you also have to take into consideration their target market was probably the PS3. Anyway, I don't know what your performance issues with the game is, because other than lag related issues, the game runs fine for me as well as others. I don't know if it's your card, drivers or whatever but I haven't heard of alot of people having problems with the games engine if they are running with recommended specs.

I still think you need to give the game time, because SE has always crammed most of their content later on in the game. They march to their one tune and having previous experience with XI has helped me to keep an open mind. The game isn't a month out of the gate - expecting the doors to be blown wide open on content is what everyone seems to want but it's not going to happen.

Yes there are UI foibles, but these are easily fixed. I think the expectation of a high level of polish in a game that was obviously rushed out is unrealistic. They've already fixed some UI issues in yesterdays patch and theyve gone on record that they are aware there are issues and they are addressing them as quickly as they can. Remember this game is going to be multiplatform so there has to be consideration taken for that fact.

If I get to 50 and find the content lacking, I certainly won't continue to give them my money, but I'm not jaded enough to give up on something because of a handful of bugs, especially since the devs have already acknowledged them and promised to address them.

And in regards to WoW, people may want something else to play but ultimately if things aren't done like WoW, the vast majority of those players cry foul, which isn't fair to any MMO who try new concepts.

BTW they are fixing the market wards by dividing them into sections like a big department store. They have also gone on record that they are working on a search function, but things like that aren't going to happen overnight.
644  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 08, 2010, 05:22:41 AM
Tenchi you are a cool guy but face it, the game is bad. If it wasn't called Final Fantasy you wouldn't be playing it.

The same reviewer iirc gave FFXI a 80-90 score

edit: If you review this game and honestly overrate it I'll probably be really disappointed.

I'd be playing the game if it was still called Rapture. Branding doesn't do much for me, because sequels usually suck. I've complained enough about FF13 to prove I'm not a brain dead SE sycophant, so don't assume I am. I've played alot of MMOs that were hyped more than this, and some I couldn't stand after two days (AoC, Warhammer), some I still play on occasion (Aion, WoW, XI). In  all honesty there was very little hype and PR for this game outside of the dedicated fan sites. Calling the game bad is your opinion, it's not fact. There are plenty of people playing who are enjoying the game and will stick with it after the first month. Also, if you hate the game, no score I give it will be acceptable for you, so don't think your disappointment will shatter my world. I will endeavor to give the game a fair run through before I do though. I won't be whining about shit that could be managed with simple reading comprehension though. I mean come on, if making an account was so arduous there wouldn't be 15 servers stuffed with 5k people each server
645  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 08, 2010, 05:05:37 AM
I'll try not to disappoint you guys when I do review it, but it won't be till I reach cap. Anything before that would be speculative. The game has issues, but anyone who has played MMOs will realize most things can be changed. FFXIV is not limited by outdated hardware like XI, so there's no technical limitation. I will admit the game isn't perfect but the potential is there. Guildleves in their base form do get repetitive, but after helping on a faction leve, I found it gets better (actual instanced NPCs in addition to mobs within the context of that faction.)

I guess I'm just tired of people expecting the second coming of Christ when a new promising MMO comes out, and the backlash when it doesn't meet the expectations. MMOs as a genre are works in progress, and casting judgement, especially when you don't know what content is actually there just silly. Anyone who has played XI knows this. Your milestones in XI didn't start till 18-20 and you really didn't get into the meat of the content till 30+, so when I hear people whine about not having content at level 10 (which is crap BTW) that I just want to go stabby rip stab stab on them. It doesn't help that the party who is defending the game are rabid fanboys instead of rational gamers. I just wish people would be patient and try to see what will be possible in this new world. Instead we have an MMO culture that expects games to play for themselves, have no sense of accomplishment because the level of commitment is non-existent. Lets not forget that these things are more fun in a group, but I'll guarantee most people who are complaining aren't doing it with a good group of people, if they're even grouping at all.
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