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661  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 09, 2010, 02:17:04 AM
I think we can all agree we want the game to succeed, and all the bad press might be a good thing. The MMO market doesn't have the kind of tolerance it did back in 2002, and there are already more accessible options out there with major competition on the horizon. SE has always done things at their own pace, to the annoyance of their fanbase and the detriment of their title. It took them a long time to get XI where it needed to be, which was when we got the NA release. The market won't give XIV 3 months much less a year. I think its funny though that they asked reviewers to wait a month before reviewing the title, which shows how unfinished it really is. I think when they fix the UI and lag issues and introduce some more content variety for earlier levels, the game will attract and keep it's playerbase, but out of the box they need to grab the audience with more than great cutscenes. Had I not gone through the motions already in XI, I'd probably be just as disappointed.

If the Japanese are as disheartened with the game as the NA press is, I'm sure heads will be rolling if alot of these issues aren't fixed quickly. There's supposed to be a monster patch next week so we will see what is addressed.
662  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 08, 2010, 11:55:19 PM
I think alot of it has to do with the fact that you never played XI Thoren. For most of us who did, alot of this wasn't a shock and we've been playing with a controller and menu trees for years. I agree with your statement of "This is a PC MMO and 2010," but you also have to take into consideration their target market was probably the PS3. Anyway, I don't know what your performance issues with the game is, because other than lag related issues, the game runs fine for me as well as others. I don't know if it's your card, drivers or whatever but I haven't heard of alot of people having problems with the games engine if they are running with recommended specs.

I still think you need to give the game time, because SE has always crammed most of their content later on in the game. They march to their one tune and having previous experience with XI has helped me to keep an open mind. The game isn't a month out of the gate - expecting the doors to be blown wide open on content is what everyone seems to want but it's not going to happen.

Yes there are UI foibles, but these are easily fixed. I think the expectation of a high level of polish in a game that was obviously rushed out is unrealistic. They've already fixed some UI issues in yesterdays patch and theyve gone on record that they are aware there are issues and they are addressing them as quickly as they can. Remember this game is going to be multiplatform so there has to be consideration taken for that fact.

If I get to 50 and find the content lacking, I certainly won't continue to give them my money, but I'm not jaded enough to give up on something because of a handful of bugs, especially since the devs have already acknowledged them and promised to address them.

And in regards to WoW, people may want something else to play but ultimately if things aren't done like WoW, the vast majority of those players cry foul, which isn't fair to any MMO who try new concepts.

BTW they are fixing the market wards by dividing them into sections like a big department store. They have also gone on record that they are working on a search function, but things like that aren't going to happen overnight.
663  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 08, 2010, 05:22:41 AM
Tenchi you are a cool guy but face it, the game is bad. If it wasn't called Final Fantasy you wouldn't be playing it.

The same reviewer iirc gave FFXI a 80-90 score

edit: If you review this game and honestly overrate it I'll probably be really disappointed.

I'd be playing the game if it was still called Rapture. Branding doesn't do much for me, because sequels usually suck. I've complained enough about FF13 to prove I'm not a brain dead SE sycophant, so don't assume I am. I've played alot of MMOs that were hyped more than this, and some I couldn't stand after two days (AoC, Warhammer), some I still play on occasion (Aion, WoW, XI). In  all honesty there was very little hype and PR for this game outside of the dedicated fan sites. Calling the game bad is your opinion, it's not fact. There are plenty of people playing who are enjoying the game and will stick with it after the first month. Also, if you hate the game, no score I give it will be acceptable for you, so don't think your disappointment will shatter my world. I will endeavor to give the game a fair run through before I do though. I won't be whining about shit that could be managed with simple reading comprehension though. I mean come on, if making an account was so arduous there wouldn't be 15 servers stuffed with 5k people each server
664  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 08, 2010, 05:05:37 AM
I'll try not to disappoint you guys when I do review it, but it won't be till I reach cap. Anything before that would be speculative. The game has issues, but anyone who has played MMOs will realize most things can be changed. FFXIV is not limited by outdated hardware like XI, so there's no technical limitation. I will admit the game isn't perfect but the potential is there. Guildleves in their base form do get repetitive, but after helping on a faction leve, I found it gets better (actual instanced NPCs in addition to mobs within the context of that faction.)

I guess I'm just tired of people expecting the second coming of Christ when a new promising MMO comes out, and the backlash when it doesn't meet the expectations. MMOs as a genre are works in progress, and casting judgement, especially when you don't know what content is actually there just silly. Anyone who has played XI knows this. Your milestones in XI didn't start till 18-20 and you really didn't get into the meat of the content till 30+, so when I hear people whine about not having content at level 10 (which is crap BTW) that I just want to go stabby rip stab stab on them. It doesn't help that the party who is defending the game are rabid fanboys instead of rational gamers. I just wish people would be patient and try to see what will be possible in this new world. Instead we have an MMO culture that expects games to play for themselves, have no sense of accomplishment because the level of commitment is non-existent. Lets not forget that these things are more fun in a group, but I'll guarantee most people who are complaining aren't doing it with a good group of people, if they're even grouping at all.
665  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 08, 2010, 02:34:38 AM
BTW, that Gamespot review was pretty awful. Has the genre degraded so much that players need to be handheld through everything? Let's bash the interface when it was common knowledge it was designed for a controller. Yes there are design flaws, simple ones that can and will probably be fixed, but I'm sure all the bad press will upset SE shareholders enough for them to abandon their vision of the game and try to convert it to another me-too MMO, which would be a shame, because the genre and the playerbase deserve more than that.

BTW it's obvious that the guy never hit 20, never tried faction leves or continued the storyline past mission 4. And for the record, when our LS does leve-linking, we are out there for 5-6 hours, this doesn't include the 8 local leves that will suck up another 2-4 hours. That's alot of content every day and a half. Most people in groups are having a hard time doing all of them every cooldown. It's also apparent he's from the WoW school of reading comprehension because each guildleve has a story - some of them quite long, that involve NPCs and factions within the game, but alas people find reading in a storyline... Bothersome.
666  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 08, 2010, 02:18:01 AM
I think it's kind of hilarious people are putting out reviews for this now. All anyone has to do is look at XIs development history and see that XIV is far from a finished product and since noone has hit cap yet they don't know what there is in terms of content. They have been releasing bits of info on lodestone as the playerbase started to hit these milestones. From a journalistic standpoint, I doubt any of these reviewers have gotten past, much less to, level 20.

A little history lesson, when XI was released they had the zones right outside each city, Jeuno was non existent and there was no AH either. If you find the list of version updates the game transformed itself no less than 3 times before we ever touched it here in the west. Now I'm not saying that releasing and unfinished product is right, but every MMO is this way. The game hasnt even been out a month and people are up in arms about shit they're aware of and have been on their table to be addressed. People just need to chill out. An MMO is best graded on their potential and the history of the developers to deliver content.

SE has shown that they can do this. They might not be as prolific as Blizzard but usually they do a good job. I think if anyone is on the fence about the game, they should just wait till PS3 launch before deciding. As it stands I'm enjoying the hell out of the game despite the small fixable flaws, but one man's candy is another man's poison.

I'm not towing the fanboy line, but I have faith in SE and their dedication to this title. They've never shown all their cards before and I'm not expecting meet and greets with their devs on forums daily.

My parting thoughts are that if the game was so terrible then why are all the servers packed to the gills with more people starting every day? I'm sure alot of people will leave once Cata comes out but for every person that bitches about the game ingame, there's several hundred people telling them to STFU and leave. That's my kind of community. :)
667  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 03, 2010, 04:41:00 AM
Well the game isnt letting me pick the world I want to. I can't even play because of this stupid single character limit. What retarded bullshit.

Tried another world, played a bit. Terribly unoptimized. Great graphics. Good music. What an extremely clunky interface, makes me feel like I'm playing EVE Online again. It just feels so.. unintuitive. The game could be so great if they just polished up the interface a bit, christ.


Well firstly the one character limit is nothing new. Unlike other MMOs you can play every class on one character. This was how it was in FFXI. As far as the UI, it's been well documented that it's been designed to be played with a controller. Sure you can play with the mouse and keyboard but that was not a part of the design. SE has gone on record several times as saying the UI was controller centric because Japanese players play their PC games with a controller. As far as calling the game unoptimized, how so? I've been running the game since alpha and it's current form is great. There is tons of lag right now because of the massive influx of people from the retail launch. It was the same way with head start. It will get better as the congestion eases. If the game offends you so much, then don't play it. No reason to take the Lord's name in vain :)
668  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 02, 2010, 05:36:00 AM
I could get behind a ladybug killing simulator. Red ones are fine. But any week now those orange ones are going to start home invading.

Dude those ladybugs will fucking own you. Anyway, despite all the Internet whining about lack of content, they're full of shit. Most people aren't even rank 20 yet. There's more to the game than just guildleve grinding. At rank 10, 15 and 20 you've got continuation of the main storyline with some instanced combat. BTW the big cutscenes in game are fully voiced. At rank 20 you start gaining guild marks for special abilities and skill books for your classes. You can start purchasing faction leves at 20 also. You start to get your class quests also. You get access to the Parley system at 20 as well. When you get to the 5th storyline mission you get your Path Companion. We also have confirmation from SE that PvP is in the wings which is closely tied to the soon to be introduced Company system.

Folks who have played XI should know that SE always delivers on content even though they don't like to expose everything right off the bat. People may bitch and moan cause they aren't getting to do the cool shit yet, but it's there.
669  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 02, 2010, 05:26:08 AM
I'm hearing a lot of mixed things about this game. Some people love it and some people hate it. There doesn't seem to be much inbetween.

Edit: WOW I got a Buddy code from someone online and there's no fucking client available for download? Is this a joke?

Peoples opinions are going to be polarized on the game because 1) They haven't scratched what's available and theres no guide or FAQ to tell you what's there till you get there yourself. 2) Its the Internet, and a new MMO. If it's not the second coming of Christ people automatically bitch. My advice is to try it for yourself, which it seems you're attempting.
The buddy code sheet says to LEND your game disc to your friend to install. If your unable to get the disc there's a billion torrents with the client. The game JUST came out, most MMOs don't have a live downloadable client that isn't a stripped down 7 day trial for at least a year. It's a fucking 9GB install file for an international game. I think they're better served saving bandwidth for patches etc right now. Give it a few weeks and it'll be on FilePlanet.
670  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 02, 2010, 05:08:34 AM
I think I'm gonna finally get this game in a couple of weeks.  I had the CE preordered at one point, but then I came to my senses and remembered my Warhammer Online experience. :P

I'm correct in thinking that the thaumaturge is the closest this game comes to having a red mage, right?  That was always my favorite class in Final Fantasy 11, and I haven't really played another MMORPG that has a class like it.

Thaum is a major debuffing class but they have no melee viability like RDM. They're pretty uber though. Think RDM meets Blood Mage.
671  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: October 02, 2010, 05:07:00 AM
That's nothing compared to 10+ people taking on squirrels and ladybugs!

You have to admit that was hilarious. I love that screenshot.
672  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: September 29, 2010, 03:05:08 AM
Shouldn't be an issue. Throw up an appy on our website http://reunionxiv.enjin.com and try to make it to one of our group guildleve events.
673  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: September 24, 2010, 07:04:34 AM
Yeah there's no auto attack, enter key is your confirm button. Each move takes up a chunk of your stamina to use, sometimes it uses TP or MP. When you select the attack, enter confirms it, and you use it. mouse/keyboard control isn't very intuitive with the game. If you have a USB controller, it works better.
674  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: September 23, 2010, 12:06:20 PM
Our linkshell is recruiting if you would like to join an active community. We do tend to use ventrilo a bit more than LS chat, but if you're ok with that we welcome most players, well except Kiem cause he's a douche :)
675  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: FFXIV Thread on: September 22, 2010, 07:04:31 PM
Patch Files

Just download from here and place them in the folders specified.
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