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6676  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Girl turns cute to ugly on: April 18, 2009, 08:20:32 PM
Also if you stare at something long enough it starts to do weird things. Optical illusion and all that.
6677  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: April 18, 2009, 08:19:57 PM
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Mei-Ling sucks amazing amounts of balls, and the one thing she does do well doesn't help Riki at all.  Stop using her.  If you need a Gun/Magic hybrid character, just grab Roufus or use Dr. Nusakan.

I JUST got a sixth character :P I pretty much got out of Junk and immediately sent to Tanzer. Fei-On is nice, although I used him a ton with Emilia. I should've grabbed Nusakan before getting on Tanzer, probably.

I think I'll play Arcana and Wizardry 5 on my SNES tonight. All this talk about dungeon crawls makes me want to. And W5 on the SNES had really nifty graphics.

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Do you like Saga Frontier? That was one of my favorite games when I was younger. I got almost all of the endings. I felt like an outcast being one of the only few people that actually liked the game

There are a lot of older games from the PSX era that used to be pretty hated around here. SGF, LoM, and Parasite Eve all come to mind. I also seem to recall FM3 getting a lot of hate and now I'm the only person that does that (And I don't hate it at all. It just has some things that bug me, and I like FM1 a lot more). It also seems Dragon Quest got a lot more popular recently. And uh, BoF: DQ (My thoughts; Like the gameplay changes. Don't like the save system much. I have a very low attention span).

Keep in mind that if Dark Spire came out in say 2003, everyone here would probably be hating on it. To a certain extent it's kind of acclimation. You start with Nocturne or Persona 3, move on to Etrian Odyssey, and get into something really back to its roots like how Dark Spire sounds.

Specifically in regards to SGF and LoM, one of the original reasons they weren't that well recieved was the non-linear plot structure in both (and SGF's storyline was a lot more... let's say minimalist than LoM's too). I think there's a lot more tolerance for non-traditional storytelling methods lately, especially in regards to how well something like Mass Effect is doing. Or Etrian, for that matter.

Actually, VP apparently wasn't well received in a lot of places at launch for similar reasons. Very non-linear, very unconventional progression and storyline and gameplay as a whole.

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Hey, we're building quite a little SaGa fanclub here.

You're doing the easy thing and building a saga frontier fanclub. I'm trying to build an unlimited saga fanclub ;3

I think I'll pass on DS for the time being unless the soundtrack is really great. I'm eyeing those two new SMT related games more. BTW is the Raidou plushie a preorder bonus or something with first-print copies?
6678  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Age of Empires: Mythologies DS on: April 18, 2009, 08:14:07 PM
AoE: Mythologies is TBS, but it's not an RPG, no. It looked like an HoMMish type hybrid but I doubt it after reading a bit.
6679  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: April 18, 2009, 12:53:57 AM
I need to get back to PE. Didn't play it much but it was sort of like a Persona flavored VS-lite, so that really jived with me. Anyway.

Romancing Saga 3. Did uh... wandering around till I found Harid and... Ellen or Ellen's older sister. The brown haired one. Could not find Nora. Did the bandit mission, and then the uh, thing with Wood at the lake. RS3 is kind of easy. Unlimited saga is kind of easy too. Maybe RS3 gets harder. US doesn't, really, unless you intentionally do something really odd (equipping everyone with staves and not getting any armor ever that has pierce evasion or life protection, for instance. Or being ocd about getting every chest).

Saga frontier. riki remains a god. Mei-lin is sucking amazingly. Basically I changed Riki's form again, so now he only had 53 strength compared to like 63, but his Will is 75 so any special technique I use is going to be doing like 10x the party's average. It's amazing.
6680  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Girl turns cute to ugly on: April 18, 2009, 12:52:00 AM
Uh, stare at her eyes a bit. Something uncanny valley starts happening. I was about to post a "WTF DONT GET IT" post and then I saw that.

Her eyes really are out of proportion somehow.

Then again, if you stare at any face long enough, it starts to like... mutate. You get spacial disphoria or whatevs. Try it in a mirror with yo own damn face.
6681  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: April 17, 2009, 07:51:16 PM
BG2 has a lower hit rate, IIRC. It's just not noticable because combat's fast.

Or you could use a Kensai, yeah.

I don't remember HP raising very fast in FF2 in FFO, but I also don't really remember enemies ever doing any damage to me. Also they were slow as hell to actually attack and rarely even got hits in.
6682  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: April 17, 2009, 03:10:37 PM
At the risk of getting into Magical Pengel territory, it should, on a DS, be feasible to have a "make your own character" thing via some sort of... HeroMachine like interface. And I think I'll just say this for the millionth time that more games needed to do what Wizardry 8 did and let you pick voice-sets/personalities for the characters.

Actually, Forsaken Land was really interesting like that. Alignment and race affected how much your party members liked eachother and in turn what combos you could. More games need something like that also.

Anyway finished that mission in unlimited saga. It was... pretty damn easy to do that as I just had one fight left. Gave up on getting the chests. Probably could've grinded a little bit more and maybe gotten them. Oh well. Kurt's panels sucked. Everyone else got a pretty good selection. Armand was a problem because he got L4 Axe and L3 diplomacy in his selection, and has L3 Fashion. L3 Diplo + L3 fashion would mean I could get out of a lot of fights, potentially. I went with Axe since I ditched Kurt's inconspicuous skill, which made diplomacy a lot more useful.

Also Mordeus got L4 throw, which I liked, exceeeept replacing L3 throw with L4 throw was lowering my stats for some reason, and replacing L3 QuickFix with L4 throw would've given me the biggest strength boost but fuck that I need QuickFix.
6683  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: April 17, 2009, 11:07:21 AM
Does this dude actually have scar magic or is that just roleplaying on your party?

Wizardry 8 I remember being really goofy about attacks not hitting much, though that might've been my own crappy character builds. IIRC, I gave the the stats/skills that govern accuracy WAY, way too low of a number.

M&M6 and 7 also had fairly low hit rates but the battle systems in those gays were very, very fast.

Oh, and I guess Chrono Cross does to when the giant car you're fighting keeps blinding you (the bastard).

I also hit some point in unlimited saga last night where i had Ventus trying to kick one of those fuzzy little brown enemies and half of the attacks missed. I've had attacks miss in that game, but usually only the really slow and inaccurate ones like Stardust. I'm not sure what stat governs attack hittiness in that. Probably Skill since that governs nearly everything.
6684  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Hey guys... on: April 17, 2009, 11:01:49 AM
Nichevo in russian is, potentially, the genetive form of nichto, which means nothing.

In this case, though, it means nevermind, but it a very fatalistic sense. Sort of like "A raccoon just ate my dong and then planted a tree in my lungs. Oh well. Nevermind."

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And oopsie for forgetting Mr. Lungtree, although unlike the others, he didn't put his penis in a precarious predicament.

Give it a week.
6685  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure on: April 17, 2009, 04:31:00 AM
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bloodier than Fist of the North star.

I call bullshit.

Anyway.

If you're just looking for some sort of fairy-tale-ish RPG, I can think of a few recommendations. Like, plugging Quest for Glory 2 VGA because it's that kind of week and it's freeware. There's also legend of mana, which i loved, and Odin Sphere, which I didn't like. legend of mana also fulfills the music requirement sense all of your magic are flutes except the drums

Specifically musically themed stuffed is harder to find. Although to that extent that extent Tales of the Abyss and Ar Tornelico (apparently?) might work.

Or if you're just looking for cute happy games for LEETLE GURELS then you could try Riviera. It's full of LEETLE GURELS and they interact and I think you can like date them or something. I don't know. I never got very far in it because I don't have a reasonable adult attention span.
6686  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Dude had a tree growin' in his fuckin' lung. on: April 17, 2009, 02:16:03 AM
That's not a tree. That's a branch.

I think the theory on gardenweb was that he inhaled a bud and it continued to grow somehow. That's slightly less impossible than it growing from seed in any case.
6687  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Favorite plants. on: April 16, 2009, 10:21:58 PM
You can make hooch out of a lot of things.

Anyway, new plants came in the mail.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8623/cactus001c.jpg Huernia of some sort or other.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9563/cactus003.jpg Astrophytum asteras. It's got buds. Hell yes.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/548/cactus004.jpg Alluaudia procera that's like twice as big as advertised. Hell yes.
6688  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: April 16, 2009, 10:16:44 PM
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I played that a bit and I pretty much agree. Also is it just me or do all of these D&D games - even the good ones like the Infinity Engine games - have ridiculously low hit rates?

I think that's something with the normal D&D ruleset, and it applies to the Goldbox games too, obviously. What's a bit annoying is that the low hit-rate thing has spread to a lot of PC RPGs in general.

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Much like the previous I hadn't planned on picking this up, but at $10 I'm happy with it so far early on, assuming it has the same easy difficulty level of Origins by default.

FF2 in general is really easy as long as you don't try to make a single character a dedicate spell-caster. Alternating between magic and physical attacks tends to, if not eliminate the stat-downs, at least completely offset them, since you gain faster than you lose. Or at least you seem to.

I don't wager that the PSP version has fixed the high number of useless spells (Although I guess that can be seen, as I said earlier in this tread, as a backwards positive -- the only spells its hard to level up are the ones you have no reason to ever use anyway).

I have to admit, though, I realized recently that everything I liked about FF2 was done in SGF, FFL1, and FFL2, only pretty much better. Although I do love the atmosphere in FF2 for whatever reason. Favorite of the original FFs is probably 3, or the DS remake thereof (though I actually like the NES original, which is unusual for me, as the only other NES RPG I like in its original form is Mother. And RCR, which is kind of an RPG, although the GBA remake is better and introduces some of the better aspects of Tecnos' Samurai).

Unlimited Saga:

Okay, doing that quest I talked about last night. Except the way it works out, there are like... basically there are three hubs with a set number of monters, but they also seem to act as monster generators. And there's two chests RIGHT next to one of the generator hub thingies. Meaning that if I fail to open a chest, i'll likely get into a fight and have to do that before trying again. I'm not really good enough with the chest lock/trap/disarm reels so fuck it. I think I have enough money for weapon repairs in any case.
6689  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Hey guys... on: April 16, 2009, 09:59:40 PM
And don't forget Treelung McLungtree.

In Russian class Wednesday, 1guy1cup came up in class for some reason, and I was theorizing that that guy must be a Russian. It's really easy to explain though, Dincrest.

See, you say that words fail you. You really only need one word here.

Nichevo!
6690  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Graphics in RPGs - how important are they to you? on: April 16, 2009, 02:57:43 PM
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more appealing than generic next-gen action game #87.

holy shit guys let's add more hdr and while you're at it make everyone look like they're covered in vasoline

The one thing nice about oldschool graphics is that technical execution didn't matter much. Generation wise you either had EGA or VGA. So the phrase bad graphics generally meant "learn how to draw man."

Generally really inconsistent styles in graphics bug me more than straight-out quality or perceived quality. Like, if you have an RPGMaker game where have of the PC sprites are from phantasy star and half are from ToP. That's going to look damn stupid no matter what you do.
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