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6811  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best RPG of Last Generation? on: March 08, 2009, 11:11:08 PM
I wonder if I should toss Tales of Symphonia into the ring, here, since, other than Nocturne, it's the game from last generation I played the most. I have a hard time explaining WHY I liked it so much, though. Not having Abyss' endless loadtime hell certainly *helped* I guess. Some of the things I liked were that, while it was linear for a lot of it, it didn't really feel stuck on rails. There were nice little side things you could do. The story wasn't great and it's not like it was all that well written or anything, but it didn't get all that wanky or fauxlosophical (Abyss kind of looked like it was heading that direction before I got sick of the load times) and when it did it was still cute enough to counterbalance it. Also, the dungeons had a nice degree of interactivity thanks to the Ring Thing, and it was pretty and atmospheric.

Or, that was just a really dreadful summer for me when it came out and it was the only emotional crutch I had. Whatevs, dawgs and dawgettes.
6812  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Will we ever see a new Seiken Densetsu game? on: March 08, 2009, 12:21:59 AM
Like a lot of games, various SD games were my favorite games till I played better games.
6813  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: March 07, 2009, 08:40:20 PM
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Well, Best Buy screwed up

Yep.

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I started a game of FFVII for some reason and i'm just about to leave Midgar.

How many hours does it take you to get up to this point?

Anyway, after like, five years, finally getting around to playing that copy of Kohan I got for free when I bought Riven and Exile a few years ago (and by a few I mean five years ago). (at a store). I was assuming it was a heavily RPGish strategy game like HoMM3 or Disciples 2, but it's actually not. You have hero units, but they're not the same. The way the resources is handled is pretty neat, though. You find resource locations (gold, wood, stones, or irons) and build mines on them like in most RTSes. This is different, though, because the mines have to be within a city's "zone of supply" to do any good. So you either need to grow the city, or plant outposts so you can form a contiguous supply chain. Then, after you have these resources linked up to your city, they don't get stockpiled. RAther, you have to build buildings that sell them for gold or mana. It's actually kind of like Seven Kingdoms 2 except you don't have situations where you provide jobs to an enemy town and they defect because their original country's job market sucked.
6814  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Persona port for PSP? on: March 07, 2009, 01:20:21 PM
Whatever Black Mark is still the only Mark for me.
6815  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best RPG of Last Generation? on: March 06, 2009, 10:21:08 PM
My favorite anime is Fist of the North Star, and the fact that there aren't any comparable videogames saddens me.
6816  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Fantasy RPGs? on: March 06, 2009, 10:12:10 AM
SMT:N was actually pretty good about that, in regards to cost v. effectiveness. I mean, in regards to your main dude, switching from agi to like, agilao eventually is probably a good idea just because of limited spell slots, but you'll usually want to keep both the single and multiple hit form of a spell around at the same time for MP management.

Although that game was built entirely around elemental weaknesses really.
6817  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best RPG of Last Generation? on: March 05, 2009, 07:52:17 PM
The first few hours of Skies of Arcadia kind of don't go anywhere yeah.

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The list didn't include PC games, and many if not most WRPG's debut on PC.  I thought that was intentional (PC games are difficult to categorize by generation).

You can kind of do it based around system requirements and game-style trends, but yeah. It's easiest just to arbitrarily define a new generation of PC games as starting every five years. So like, 1980-1985-1990-1995-2000-2005-2010. Etc.
6818  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best RPG of Last Generation? on: March 05, 2009, 03:35:40 AM
In regards to DDS, the monster eating thing never jives with me. As I've said before, it should've been more related to WHAT skills you got instead of just giving you skill point bonuses. It's also not really that useful to eat stuff constantly as the AP bonuses aren't really that huge.

SMT:N's storyline's a lot more apparent if you bother talking to the NPCs and blue orby people, in any case. Frankly though I think that if it HAD been text heavy it would've come across like a sophomore in highschool trying to write about something really deep and important. Which is how I felt about FFXII (and FFT and Tales of the Abyss and um... most JRPGs, for that matter).

Also in regards to FFXII, another thing I've said before, I don't get what was so innovative about it. The particular innovation, I guess, was that it automated the battle system somewhat, but a few games have had that (Baldur's Gate 2, although I never actually used the AI scripting thing). Beyond being able to move around on the overworlds during battle, though, it pretty much is just... ATB, again.
6819  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: March 05, 2009, 03:33:24 AM
Beat the first mission in the Human-campaign for Disciples 2. Good stuff, but I wish you could transfer more than one of your heroes between missions.
6820  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Fantasy RPGs? on: March 05, 2009, 03:25:30 AM
Speaking of efficiency... none of the stats in SD2 apparently did anything, and the gameplay didn't suffer at all. Which makes me think that that was the intended design and the stats screen was something they forgot to remove.

In general I don't think more stats == more depth, or more skills == more depth. Especially in regards to skills, I only want them if they're tied to letting the player do something new. Lots of wholly passive skills are boring.
6821  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Persona port for PSP? on: March 04, 2009, 12:09:06 AM
Yeah but could it at least be a phallic image without pins stuck in it?

Actually I always imagine Japanese Mark taking off his hat and he's like, a conehead under there.
6822  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Help in Finding RPGs of a Particular Type on: March 03, 2009, 10:40:56 PM
Might and Magic 6 and 7 did this. Earlier Might and Magic games with skills (3-5? Did 1 and 2 use skills?) were you either hav ea skill or you don't.

Wizardry 6 - 8 did too, although it was a mixed system. Skills level up via usage, but you also get bonus points to give out during levelling up to like, even out the less frequently used but still useful skills.

Neither of those let you allocate points to STATS though. Just skills.

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I dunno how 4 is, but 3's just plain stupid there. Most of the options were actually for affected AI patterns, and this wasn't really clear so you could easily screw up a character by, say, maxing out their defense so they'd be a good tank, only for it to make them keep running and defending when they should be running in and pounding them. At least that's how I recall it was supposed to work.

Star Ocean 3? I rather liked SO2's skill system, but something with 3's was like... no.
6823  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best RPG of Last Generation? on: March 03, 2009, 10:27:57 PM
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Don't know if Castlevaina (the metroidvaina games) count, but if they do I recommend Aria of Sorrow for the GBA (otherwise I'll go with FE:BS).

Castlevania's yes, Metroids no.
6824  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Fantasy RPGs? on: March 03, 2009, 10:26:44 PM
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I don't know, one of the reasons I like JRPGs is because they aren't bound with an iron chain to the concept of "realism" that seems so highly valued in Western culture these days.

Western RPGs don't really adhere to realism that much, although I will admit that Bethesda's take on Oblivion was like...

Okay, if Vvardenfell was this mysterious volcanic island full of harrowing, blasted lava flows, grottos, giant mushrooms, building made of giant mushrooms and the shells of giant crabs, and this sense that they were really working to come up with this new culture and everything.

Oblivion, on the other hand, is set in a rather generic looking green valley full of castles.
6825  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best RPG of Last Generation? on: March 03, 2009, 03:06:11 PM
I'm going to say Nocturne.
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