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6811  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Final Fantasy X or XII? on: April 30, 2009, 09:42:11 PM
And FFX's dialogue wasn't horrible either. It had its bad moments, but it wasn't horrible. You clearly haven't played enough videogames (or watched enough dubbed anime) to get a feel for good vs bad voice acting.

I was talking about the writing, not the performances.

Don't tell me you're going to put up a fight about the "marquis" thing.

Um... I don't know what this means :[
6812  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Gayming, as it were. on: April 30, 2009, 09:32:25 PM
Being gay doesn't mean you're always searching for a relationship

Yeah, but being a gamer does.

(Oooooooooooh iceburrrrrrrrrrrn)
6813  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Final Fantasy X or XII? on: April 30, 2009, 05:52:17 PM
Okay, maybe I wasn't paying attention, but does the game ever explain what Magicite is? That seemed to be hugely important.

I think the lack of focus on the characters was why I was having such a hard time following it. I didn't really know what was motivating anyone because the characters were defined by their roles in the story, and not the other way around. To the point where it probably was just striking me as an abstract series of events without anything really binding them together.

In any case I just read a plot summary on wikipedia and um... unless it's really incomplete I'm still really not sure what to make of it.
6814  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Gayming, as it were. on: April 30, 2009, 05:35:23 PM
I don't like values in general. Let's all get high on meth and rape cattle while flagelating ourselves.
6815  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Gayming, as it were. on: April 30, 2009, 02:22:21 PM
BioWare itself allowed for same-sex pairings in their epic science-fiction role-playing game Mass Effect, standing strong in the face of the controversy that those gameplay elements drew from the mainstream media

I thought that was just with lesbians, though.

(Long rant on why I'm bothered more by "It's okay to have lesbians but not gay males" instead of just broad discrimination against homosexuals in general)
6816  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: "The Greatest Enemy of the RPG Genre" article... on: April 30, 2009, 02:17:46 PM
You can't hold disdain for elitists without being elitist ("I'm better than them") yourself.

Ah, but you see, just because I don't like fandoms and elitists doesn't mean I think I'm any better off than they are.

You know what they say. Whenever you point a finger at someone, there's always four pointing back at yourself. Intentionally.

If it serves as consolation, at least they're not furries.

There's actually a ton of overlap.
6817  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Final Fantasy X or XII? on: April 30, 2009, 02:15:51 PM
If you didn't knew what was going on in the story is because you weren't hooked into it, thus, not paying any attention whatsoever.

That's one possibility.

The other possibility is that it's poorly written, not clear about what was going on, and as a result, I didn't get hooked into it.

Or we could go with your way. That works too. It doesn't really matter.
6818  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Final Fantasy X or XII? on: April 30, 2009, 05:38:16 AM
but convincing and well written

Nothing important Vaan ever said sounds even remotely natural.

Also, honestly, I really stopped giving a damn about FFXII's story as soon as they pulled the "No, you've got it all wrong! My EVIL TWIN did it!" thing. I'm well aware that this was maybe like five hours into the game. I played it for 30 hours total, I think*.

See, the way I framed that, it makes it sound like "Egads! They used the oldest trope in the book! How dare they insult my intelligence!" That's actually not the case, because it's Final Fantasy and stupid plot twists are to be expected. What I ACTUALLY mean is that I can't remember a single damn thing about the entire storyline after the five hour mark, and honestly, the only thing I really do remember is not having a damn clue about what was going on.

That and deifacted nethicyte.

And not knowing what the hell that was or why I should care.

And "I'm captain Basch fan Rosenberg of Dalmasca! Don't listen to Ondore's lies!" Although I can't really remember WHY you were actually doing that. I just remember it because it's basically FFXII's equivalent of the laughing seen. Only it lasts longer and it's more obnoxious.

* Most likely 28. I stopped around the part where you go to Fran's village for some reason, or shortly thereafter because I think there's a dungeon. Or something. For reference, I played Final Fantasy VI, IV, TotA, and a whole lot of other games for even shorter periods of time, and about as long ago, and I could at least, if asked, give enough of a summary to explain what the general storyline was. I honestly do not have a clue what FFXII was about. At all.
6819  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Final Fantasy X or XII? on: April 29, 2009, 10:59:15 PM
"laughing scene"

Okay, seriously? FFX's dialogue was horrible, sure, but FFXII's wasn't any less horrible, unless I'm the only person that puts any value on mimesis and maybe that's the case but even then I don't think "mimetic" and "dialogue that sounds like things people would actually say" are strictly overlapping entities.

Also, I tend to find BS political dramas to be a lot sillier than BS quasi-religious dramas, probably because I'm just more acclimated to them and they sort of lost the inerhent pretention that they used to have.
6820  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: "The Greatest Enemy of the RPG Genre" article... on: April 29, 2009, 10:55:34 PM
otaku are often tabletop roleplayers, writers, and artists, which are generally considered pretty creative hobbies (and certainly require imagination).

Oh, I know THAT. I meant more that they kind of suck at those things, though.

The only times when a review's truly worthless is when it's paid off and not the reviewer's actual opinion, or when it's outright false, neither of which I believe are all that common.

That Australian SupCom review is the only one that comes to mind for me, honestly.
6821  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: "The Greatest Enemy of the RPG Genre" article... on: April 29, 2009, 07:22:22 PM
Incest provokes similar responses in the US as lolis--violent frothing rage and/or gut-wrenching disgust.

That's only because they don't play videogames south of the Mason Dixon or west of the Mississippi.

Your stereotypical super-hardcore RPG fan (the Japanese word "otaku" seems appropriate here) is likely to be imaginative, somewhat socially withdrawn, an individualist, and fiercely proud of his unique identity

Most of the otakus around campus here are completely bereft of creativity and don't really seem capable of individual thought, unless it's related to anime or internet memes, and even then that's pretty borderline about being individual thought. They're also all pretty much the same

Fandom in general is a big problem for a lot of things. While I generally agree completely with the article (I guess. I never bothered reading most of it) it didn't seem to distinguish between individual fans and fandom.

Fans like a certain thing. Fandom is more like a collection of fans expected to behave and think in a very lockstep manner, even if it drives them to the point of incoherence. Fandoms also tend to spawn those righteously indignant fans that take personal offense when they don't like entry X in favorite series Y, and come up with all sorts of paranoid rationalizations to justify their paranoid irrationality.

Or, put another way, fans are capable of making good games. Fandoms are mostly just capable of feeling scorned.
6822  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: In this thread, a guy bites his own dick off! on: April 29, 2009, 07:18:36 PM
Hey, you know who could totally bite his own dick off? Batman.

You know why? Cause he's the goddamn Batman.

But he won't.

You know why? Cause he's the goddamn Batman.

6823  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The youthful protagonists thread on: April 29, 2009, 01:15:09 AM
Nagahisa from Devil Children: Black Book was the best child protagonist because he was a WMD.
6824  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: April 29, 2009, 01:14:35 AM
Got boat in Terranigma. Did stuff to expand Litz. Found various treasures and thangs in places.

I really should be working on my ATR report.
6825  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Final Fantasy X or XII? on: April 29, 2009, 01:13:17 AM
I kinda wonder if that's a result of Matsuno's vision clashing with what Square's execs and shareholders want. I don't think I've ever seen a protagonist as unnecessary as Vaan was, and I still find forcing him in to be silly given how the most popular FF ever didn't even star a bunch of teenagers.

That's really almost certainly the case.

Speaking of single-player MMOs, I'm still waiting for someone to mod in a decent single-player campaign for UO.
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