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6946  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lets discuss the forgotten SNES Era of RPGs on: December 17, 2008, 10:25:55 PM
Also I like how some of the menus in Robotrek have tooltips and some don't.

If there's one innovation in modern RPGs I love, it's the auto-journal feature.


I'm sort of lost in Shin Megami Tensei 1.

My Ultima 7 notes files is 2000 words long.

My ultima 4 notes file is shorter but still like 900 some words.

(Tool tips, on the other hand, are the reason for why, in their absence, I have a WHOLE lot of trouble with DOS-era strategy games. Part of this is probably why I don't have much trouble with Dwarf Fortress or something).

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Breath of Fire II yet.

I would've, except I played it during the GBA rerelease era, and when attempting to get back into it I realized how utterly broken and not-good the gameplay is :/

Gaming Developers didn't grind out action games




6947  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Suggestions for American RPG's? on: December 17, 2008, 10:20:27 PM
Icewind Dale games are kind of borderline strategy RPG in how they progress. IWD was at least. All three hours of it I played.
6948  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Game Journal MXVII: Crisis Atelier Spectral Moon III on: December 17, 2008, 10:18:51 PM
I think if I went back and played WA2 now I'd like it a lot more than I did in the past. Actually I tried doing that for awhile and liked it although the personal skill system is dumb.



* Got Melvin.
* Got Dragon Whip for Melvin.
* Got Flame Claw for Gabo. This attacks twice, basically.
* Maribel class-uped.
* Conclusion: My party's Kenshiro all up in that bitch right now.

Tried doing that Ark Tower thing in the present but got stuck. I have some vague idea as to what I might need to do but I'm going to do something else instead. Namely, go to Dharma and make Melvin a class.


* Got female hero.
* Talked to Gotou
* Need to heal then go explore some tunnels to find some amerifucks or whatever.

Persona 3 -

* Played for the hell of it.
* Got some personas.
* Why does Legion have sexy dance?
* Unlocked terminal on level 59.


* Attempted to get Myau's other weapon.
* Dungeon kicked my ass.
6949  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Suggestions for American RPG's? on: December 17, 2008, 08:34:50 PM
Not to mention I didn't know who this character is or how I related to the world I'm in or anything.

If you play through the storyline, you find out what your character's purpose is. Did you try doing the main quest line or any of the Great House quest lines at all? Basically, though, you kind of end up being Jesus and one of your goals is to stop a horrible volcano thing from turning everyone into zombies. That's all I'm going to say.

Honestly though it's not that hard of a game. If all the openness is bothering you, it's fairly easy to just do the main quests and skip all the option stuff completely if you want.

Now that I think of it I played Summoner for the Playstation 2 when it first came out.

From my understanding, Summoner 2 doesn't even play remotely similarly.

My favorite Japanese accomplishments are the Taj Mahal and the Great Wall of China.

Goddamn everything is getting outsourced to Japan these days.

I hesitantly recommend Septerra Core.

Septerra Core's single biggest flaw is that it's basically ATB, only it takes forever for your little charge bar to ever fill and then the attack animations take forever too. And you can't speed it up. Ever.

As far as Americn RPGs go, though, totally Ultima. I mean how more american can you get than Texas?
6950  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPG's you'd like to see re-released on: December 17, 2008, 08:18:34 PM
I always thought Dragon Warrior 7 deserved a much better translation than what it got.

I know it's a PC title, but I'd like to see a rerelease of Planescape: Torment so folks don't have to pay a hefty price for a copy.  It's kinda in that "best game that no one's played" category.

I think I payed all of three bucks for Torment like, a few years back*. I didn't play it much, although I'll admit that I'm not that fond of any of the Infinity engine games. Just a liiiittle bit too much a tendency to throw stuff at you at once.

While I'm a huge FF8 fan (favorite in the series), I'm not sure it NEEDS a remake as much as some of the others.

FFVIII's gameplay was pretty broken. I think adding in some sort of actual difficulty would be reason enough to remake it. Maybe make it so you can't just spam GF summons for... pretty much all of the game except for three or so boss fights?

Not because it's flawed (in fact, I think it's possibly the least flawed in the series tied with FF9),

Objectively speaking, FFVI was pretty flawed just in the sense that it had a lot of bugs.

* Maybe I should change this to pretty damn all of three bucks. That that this line makes any sense anymore because I just changed the rest of the post. Whoops.
6951  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Would you name your kid Hitler? on: December 17, 2008, 08:17:18 PM
Aryan Nation was the shittiest fucking Civ mod ever. I mean, if Kid Hitler was one of the worst beat 'em ups I've ever played, it's pure gold compared to Aryan Nation.
6952  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Suggestions for American RPG's? on: December 17, 2008, 02:58:03 AM
What didn't you like about Morrowind? Answering this will allow for more accurate recommendations to you.

My recommendation is Ultima 7, which is an older title but very good. http://exult.sourceforge.net/ <- Fanmade windows port but you need an original copy of the game to use it.

Ultima 6 is also great of course, although there's no Windows version so you'll need a dos emulator like DOS Box. Actually, most of the Western-style RPG... Well, here.



Quest for Glory 2 VGA. Especially if you liked the day-to-day life thing Persona 3 did. http://www.agdinteractive.com/index2.html

Ultima 4 remake which is probably too archaic for what you're interested in but what the hell http://xu4.sourceforge.net/


Wizardry 8, which should be cheap now.
The original Fallout.


http://www.dosbox.com/ Requires dos emulator to use.
http://dfendreloaded.sourceforge.net/ Makes dos emulator easier to use


Betrayal at Krondor- First person, grid-based combat system, really good writing and indepth NPCs, fairly directed storyline but lots of sidequests, nice music... also freeware and not that hard to get running in DOSBox.

Avalon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbV7yBXOI8 I played it a long time ago. No idea what it's like.


Albion, which is actually german, but great, and quite similar to how JRPGs are structured.
Quest for Glory
Ultima 6 and 7, as already mentioned.


Summoner 2
6953  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Game Journal MXVII: Crisis Atelier Spectral Moon III on: December 17, 2008, 12:22:49 AM
Yeah, I looked in a FAQ. I still don't remember ever going to the place where the thing is by....

"going to the place where the thing is by" wow. I have a paper to right tonight. This is going to be a really bad paper.
6954  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Would you name your kid Hitler? on: December 16, 2008, 11:01:52 PM
Kid Hitler was probably the worst beat 'em up I've ever played. I was expecting a lot more from IREM. I mean they made R-Type for god's sake.
6955  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Game Journal MXVII: Crisis Atelier Spectral Moon III on: December 16, 2008, 09:53:05 PM
DQ7 - In the process of getting Melvin.

Last night, I found this weird building in the middle of the pond with a bunch of lilypads behind it. I think. Can someone tell me if that's DQ7 or DQ4? I think it's 7. Where the hell is that? Help?
6956  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lets discuss the forgotten SNES Era of RPGs on: December 16, 2008, 09:51:01 PM
Oh yeah, Treasure of the Rudras is an awesome one too. The spell system is so innovative.

Dungeon Master actually did something pretty similar, but less expansive, a decade before :3

It feels like a NES RPG. It seems like there was a lot of transition problems from NES to SNES.

It's a Genesis game that predates the SNES which is why it probably doesn't feel like an SNES game.

That being said, have any of you ever played the Enix SNES game, Robotrek? Typical RPG fare in terms of structure, but you control a team of robots and can program their special moves by combining regular moves.

I was playing this last weekend. Can you have more than one of your own robots out in a battle at once? I never got far in the game because robots take forever to charge up between turns and I'm not that patient.

Also for a game targeted at children it's really not very intuitive :(((

Anyway, quasi-obscure SNES games I like? Erm... Quintet trilogy, early SMT games, Wizardry 5, romancing saga 3... Um, seriously, there' aren't that many SNES RPGs I'm that big on which is why your comment about the SNES era of RPGs being forgotten is weird since I'm really the only person here that doesn't get nostalgic about it.

(GB RPGs and SNES SHMUPs, on the other hand...)
6957  Media / The Soundroom / Re: The Recent Musical Purchases Thread on: December 16, 2008, 01:51:52 PM
Every CD I've bought since like October:

TV on the Radio - Dear Science
Duran Duran - Rio
Over the Rhine - Ohio
Of Montreal - Icons Abstract Thee
Of Montreal - Skeletal Lamping
6958  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The "Throw a shoe at Bush" game. on: December 16, 2008, 12:39:58 PM
It's awesome though.

The stupidest fucking part is that Bush is grinning the whole time and is like LOL EASY THERE BUUUUDDDY. I mean it's like, some guy tells you that they think you're worse than dirt by trying to wang you in the head with a shoe. And your response is "lolwhut?"

The President is 13 year old internet troll and he knows it.
6959  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Game Journal MXVII: Crisis Atelier Spectral Moon III on: December 16, 2008, 03:03:44 AM
Played SMT1 for awhile. I think I'll need to focus on just doing that, DQ4, and DQ7 for awhile (maybe some PS1 and Soulblazer too or something) so that I don't get complete confused about what's going on. Or I could take notes, I guess :P

I really like SMT1, don't get me wrong, but I'm really not of the mindset that just because the conversations are longer they're better than Nocturne's. Both games have a problem where half of the questions demons ask you are completely arbitrary, and that their responses to these questions are completely arbitrary. However, Nocturne's conversations only do this once, whereas SMT1's do this at every single stage.
6960  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Game Journal MXVII: Crisis Atelier Spectral Moon III on: December 15, 2008, 11:59:04 PM
DQ7: Simultaneously doing the Brugeo stuff and the present-day Hamelia stuff. I think the story's on the verge of getting very weird.
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