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6946  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Master Chief, instigator of murder. on: January 13, 2009, 12:04:00 AM
Ohio teen convicted of killing mom over video game

God dammit I had this stupid state.
6947  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Black Sigil. on: January 12, 2009, 11:57:33 PM
Mazes of Fate, from what I remember, didn't get good reviews.
6948  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Down in the dumps, and need a good new RPG... on: January 12, 2009, 11:55:04 PM
But it gains points for beautiful water-colored non-battle backgrounds.

(I also, personally, found it to be the most difficult of the saga games, just because while a lot of them had weapon breakage, stockpiling weapons in SGF2 is a bit harder to do. Also, I can't remember whether or not it had a system in place like in romancing saga remake where you could weasel out of losing weapon points when your weapon skills got high enough).
6949  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Do you like the Star Ocean-style RPG structure? on: January 12, 2009, 08:55:35 PM
SO1 and SO2 actually have entirely different battle systems. I didn't like how battles worked in the original SO1 either. And I'm just gonna say it--Star Ocean 3 is one of the very, very few RPGs I openly have something akin to hatred for (Daggerfall maybe being the other one).
6950  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Down in the dumps, and need a good new RPG... on: January 12, 2009, 08:52:36 PM
Legend of Mana. To me, it's still the most beautiful game ever made.

I was going to suggest that but I thought he already played it and didn't like it.

Of course, I tried playing LoM to get through the endless winter of 2003, but somehow ended up with Xenogears instead. I'm NOT TOO SURE that this was a healthy decision.
6951  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Down in the dumps, and need a good new RPG... on: January 12, 2009, 04:46:44 PM
PM it'd be easier to suggest a game if you weren't being such a negative nelly all the time :(

i don't have any specific game recommendations but I do suggest you find the most colorful RPG you can think of and play that, and try to avoid the dreary, depressing ones, and i'm pretty sure you've already played them all because nobody likes making colorful games anymore.


Oh, wait. Go try Avernum 3. It's 25 dollars but the demo's like, 30 hours long so you don't need to pay for awhile.
6952  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Entire Life Completed RPG List on: January 12, 2009, 04:41:42 PM
Keep in mind that I have over 600 or 700 games. I'm not really sure. I haven't taken census in a few years.

And please note that I don't consider any of the games on the following list to be personal favorites.

Chrono Trigger
Chrono Cross
DemiKids Light
Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner 1
Legend of Mana
Secret of Evermore
Secret of Mana
Persona 1
Phantasy Star
6953  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Best nature story/freak accident ever? on: January 12, 2009, 12:10:41 AM
Hippos don't eat dwarves anyway. Only elephants and carps do that.
6954  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Bob's Game. One man's obsession, Everyone's game. on: January 11, 2009, 05:35:44 PM
The mental torment Bob has suffered has begun his metamorphosis into the end boss villian of "bob's game,"
the egomaniacal creator of the "bob's game" inside "bob's game" known as "Bob."

Oh bullshit. Now I'm starting to think this is some bizarre alternate reality game.

6955  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: January 11, 2009, 03:48:58 AM
Man, the writers must've been sexually frustrated given the sheer number of horny people in this game.

* Chestburst wang demon Taro.
* Giant Spider Vagina Mary.
* Mara.

Still, no quests where you have to get magical viagra before a local ruler will listen to you, like in Albion. Go Germany!

Anyway, more Crusader Kings. All of my vassals hate me, because they gained a ton of prestige in a needlessly long campaign waged against various pagan tribes in the Urals. Hungary allied with me, though, and my kids are maturing, so I'm marrying them off to Hungary and some of my formal vassals. It's 1089, and I'm only about 700 in debt.

Oh, and my character got his some teeth knocked out in battle and developed a club foot from a leg injury, so now everyone hates him because he can't walk right and has a speech impediment. I'm hoping he dies soon, and that my son ends up better than him.

Prestige dropped from a high of 117 to the like, 60s.

And accepting peace deals with Muslims does NOT help your piety.
6956  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Bob's Game. One man's obsession, Everyone's game. on: January 11, 2009, 03:29:40 AM
Well, okay. More directly stating what I said earlier:

* There's no playable demo. If it's written in pure C, he should be able to release something on the PC, or a demo rom.
* Demo 1 showing it being played on a DS, as I said, looks like a sloppy cut away from a monitor to the actual DS he's holding. Namely, the screen size doesn't remain consistent. In demo 2, you see it on an actual DS, but it, honestly, looks superimposed.
* Also, I thought the entire point of his rebellion was to get a DS SDK so he could port his game to the DS. If it's aleady on the DS, he has the SDK, rendering this entire debacle moot. If he doesn't have an SDK, then there's no way he'd have a running game on an actual DS.
* The fact that Cave Story is getting a Wiiware port makes his claim about getting denied by Nintendo kind of odd.
* Black Sigil's getting an official release through normal channels too.
* Bob also makes claims that he's been contacted by publisher, which would ALSO render all of his claims sort of void, as getting a publisher would alleviate his... problems with getting published.
* Actually, getting a publisher is the hard part, and if they're showing interest...
* His conspiratorial bullshitting is just bizarre and insane and incredibly unbecoming to this actually being a real project.

So, to summarize this:

* He's either lying about not having a DS dev kit or lying about having the game working on an actual DS.
* He's either lying about publishers showing interest in his game or STRICTLY interested in Nintendo publishing it.

So, upon cancelling his "protest," or whatever it is, two conclusions can be reached:

* He cares more about proving a point than actually releasing this game he's supposedly worked on for five years.
* There is no game.

The absence of a game would explain everything. If he didn't actually have a playable product, Nintendo wouldn't have given him an SDK. If he didn't have a finished product, all negotiations with other developers would've fallen through. If he didn't have an actual game, he wouldn't have made more appropriate efforts to get it published.

Now, let's seriously consider what we saw in the videos.

We heard lots of chiptunes. We saw crowd simulations. And we saw trucks stopping for the player. We saw some text. We saw a sprite exploring a house.

We DIDN'T see anything particularly gameplay oriented. What was shown was very typical demoscene stuff. Especially the uh... pre-demo 1 thing. Very demoscene in its aesthetics. Also, taking into consideration how competition oriented the demoscene is, I wouldn't be surprised if this is part of some bizarre contest.
6957  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Bob's Game. One man's obsession, Everyone's game. on: January 10, 2009, 11:14:28 PM
The lesson is, if you want attention, pretend to be making a game and then act like an utter psycho on the internet.
6958  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Bob's Game. One man's obsession, Everyone's game. on: January 10, 2009, 07:28:58 PM
He cancelled his protest.

Re-reading the webpage again, I seriously doubt this was actually a real project. For several reasons. Just ignore his BS claims about it being the biggest game made by a single person ever. Nevermind that he wrote it in pure C, and could just release it as shareware for the PC if he cared that much about actually releasing it. Nevermind his absolutely insane, endless attacks on "big companies." Nevermind that it looks like a QBASIC RPG from the 90s. Nevermind that at the end of Demo1 it's pretty obvious that the video of the game cuts away to a video of him holding a DS and the game was never actually being PLAYED on that DS. Nevermind his akward comparisons to himself being Link and nintendo being Ganon. Nevermind that his behavior isn't really... suitable for getting the thing published, or for getting taken seriously. Nevermind that the production values aren't even good by indie game standards (seriously, now. Cave Story is getting a Wii port. Come on). Nevermind that the ego on this guy dwarfs Derek Smart's. Nevermind that the interview in the interviews he's given his mannerisms are completely different.

Actually, don't nevermind all that. It's important.

Either YABT, HAND, or this guy's intentions were always to either release this on some other platform or on that homebrew-device-via-WalMart thing, and this was the biggest publicity stunt ever.
6959  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: January 10, 2009, 12:33:42 AM
Okay. I was playing Crusader Kings. Um... Let's see.

I'm playing as Georgia, and I'm on my second monarch. It's 1078 and I'm 2000 gold in debt, with a prestige of 117, crappy piety, a personal demesne of 9 provinces (want to get that down to about 7) and I think there's something like... 14 total provinces in my empire.

Early in the game, I took some pagan and Muslim provinces bordering Georgia, which at that point was mostly situated on the eastern shore of the black sea. After expansion, I think I got... Albania and dwin. Actually, my first war ended in an inadvertant treaty with some pagan tribe. Major whoops.

Anyway, I'm essentially boxed in by some muslim super alliance to the south and across the caspian sea, and the tribe of Cuman to the north. They're allied with the tribe of Ural. Neither are impossible by themselves, but as I said--allies. I can raise an army of about 11000. Combined, they can do something like 20000, and it's a two front war. Still, not as bad as the mulsim super-alliance, so I do some early northward expansion and get Ilin, and later saray ,and then prompty lose saray because some BS tribe has a claim on it.

Several bouts of saving and reloading later, I discover that I really, really cannot deal with cuman head on. However, eventually (1076 or so) and ally of mine, alania, declares war on Ural, so I go to their aid. Somehow, cuman DOESN'T get involved and it's during a Crusade, so I'm guessing they're already busy elsewhere, and Ural's forces are down. So I take about 6000 guys north, steal some provinces, and... Azerbaijan and the Emirate of Derbent, two allied muslim nations, declare war on me. Azerbaijain takes Dwin, I try to take some of Derbent's provinces on the west shore of the caspian, I do horribly because Azerbaijan is huge. Then Azerbaijan takes over Albania and KArtli. But Derbent gets control of them. So I get Azerbaijan to leave me alone by recognizing their claim on Dwin, finish my war with the Ural because three provinces is enough and I need the 2000 or so soldiers there to help in the south, and... yeah, then I stomp Derbent out of existance, and georgia's doubled in size. Except I have a disconnected norther part, and I'm hugely in debt. Whoops.

Additionally, my dioecese bishop became heretical because I made him take too much money from the church, and apparently invented a new religion, as he gained some decent prestige for converting my sister into a heretic. Good job dude!

Main threats in the future are massive Muslim uprisings and the Golden Horde. I have about 130 years till that happens. Additionally, I'm bordering Saray and like a stone throw's away from Kipchak. Which were uh, kind of the major seats of power for the Golden Horde.

So, current long term strategic options for saving myself is basically to extand my northern claims and break out of the Caucasus.

* Get enough prestige to vassalize Alania. That way, North Georgia and Caucasian Georgia can be... approaching contigious.
* Find away to take out Cuman. They're the major block on northern explanation.
* The two major non-Muslim, non-Pagan empires are Byzantine, which I'm not sure I want involved with, and Rus, which is a bit of a mess right now, apparently, although I've started marrying off family into Ryazan and stuff.
* I could potentially move into Turkey, but I'm not sure that'd be worth it as the muslims are very, very well organized.
6960  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Do you like the Star Ocean-style RPG structure? on: January 09, 2009, 11:59:26 PM
I liked it in 2 and I didn;t like SO3 for getting away from it.

SO1 and 2 were, style aside, very much like PC RPGs. Linear, yes, but lots of side events, and really involving, non-linear characters customization. I love that. And a lot of my favorite games have tons of side events.

but in 80-hour epics like Star Ocean it annoys me greatly.

Wait what? In SO2 I got to
energy nede
at like 20 hours. No way that game is 80s hours long.

Wait.. what's so different about the third one?

Everything you like about SO1 and will like about So2 is probably gone in So3.

Also SO3 has a lot of weird little bugs. Sometimes the AI breaks in battle so one of your dudes just stands there doing nothing. There's also the map completion thing which DOESN'T WORK.

Visual style was also very rigidly stuck in the uncanny valley.

Also the dungeons are all essentially huge mazes, devoid of any detail.

Also the color scheme gives me a massive headache. I mean that literally. Something with the visuals is like eye seizures for me.

And go ahead and hate the VA in SO3 as much as you want, but nothing compares to ear-torture catastrophe that was SO2s voice work.

Yeah but SO2 was an early PSX game. None of them had good VA. SO3 came out in the US at a time when VA standards were far higher.
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