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7141  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Villains MIA topic... on: May 29, 2009, 11:14:53 PM
Prime Mover. My comment was sarcastic, and you, out of anyone, should've known that. Naught, naughty doggy, you are.

Although in all seriousness I would like to see a Faulkner-esque RPG. Or a Joy...

No fuck that. Dhalgren RPG. Now.

Speaking of recent games, the guys from SMT: Nocturne sort of come to mind as really stand-out because in theory everyone except your teacher was a villain, depending on how you played the game. Of course, I saw Chiaki as the most villainous. Sure, Hikawa was a candle sniffing fuckfence, but Chiaki

completely sacrificed her own humanity, which isn't something that anyone else in the game ever really did, and just massacredd the everloving shit out of the Manikans

7142  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Villains MIA topic... on: May 29, 2009, 10:35:26 PM
but he just screams a million cliches, and has very little personality.

Not only am I pretty sure this was the point (before AC started retconing everything to hell), there's also a lot of text in FFVII that make Sephiroth seem very self-aware of this.

Of course as it's been pointed out, Sephiroth is dead during most of FFVII and the thing you're fighting's some sort of Jenova shard. Sephiroth was not intended to be even LIKABLE, let alone sympathetic.

Most changes in personal philosophy or personality take a long time to develope.

and most poeple never change, so the notion of a dynamic character is sort of rubbish anyway. Someone name some Hemingwaysian or Faulknerian RPGs, plox.
7143  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Villains MIA topic... on: May 28, 2009, 11:24:07 PM
Anyone who thought Sephiroth was ANY kind of villain wasn't paying attention because Sephiroth was clearly dead for the entire game.

That's my point. He's just some weird Mako zombie/Jenova fragment/clone. But you get fangirls who are like LONG HAIR MUST DROP PANTS NOW and it's just a goddamn clusterfuck of "No that's not what they intended, GOOD SIR."

And have WRPGs traditionally written/scripted more compelling and more effective villains than JRPGs?

Kind of! This is interesting, though.

Ultima is especially interesting, because games 4-7 are... they have villains, but the enemy is more conceptul. In Ultima 4 you're facing off against immorality in a broad sense (actually, you don't really have a *villain* in this game at all, per se, although it's kind of your own debauched self, in a sense). 5 has lord blackthorne and his corrupted virtues (I played 5 the least. don't ask me questions about it). 6's villains are the Gargoyles, apparently, but when you get further into it you find out they're not actually evil, and the game starts focusing on a broader fight against racism, kind of.

And Ultima 7's main villain is the Guardian, of course, but the REAL villain is L. Ron Hubbard. I mean Batlin.

Then again, you also have relative nobodies like Trebor in the earlier Wizardry games.
7144  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: May 28, 2009, 11:07:50 PM
I was playing Tong Nou. I can't explain it so here's a zip file of like 200 some screenshots of it.



more permanent link apparently.

I'll be doing more of these.

also, in regards to DS2, did some more stuff in ch3. Not going to discuss it cause of spoiles, and not going to spoiler tag it because they're not that interesting spoilers.

I need more weapon money.

--- update ---

Beat the boss on the train in Devil Children White Book. Predictably enough, this is harder than Demikids, although sakunda doesn't seem to work well (dammit. This IS pre nocturne, though. I can't expect perfect balance, I guess :(), and stuff got a bit easier now that I know enough katakana to recognize "zionga." Also I guess this game, being pre-nocturne, has earth-spells. Anyway, I think I'll briefly need to brave DemiKids to figure out what items are what and how the conversation system works (they work pretty similarly. Honestly I'm doing well enough just mashing the first option and hoping for the best) although maybe Shivalva put notes on this stuff in the black book translation. Playing games with a scripts is fun!
7145  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Villains MIA topic... on: May 28, 2009, 05:13:18 PM
Kefka is memorable for different reasons depending on who you ask. Some people might say it's because he's totally evil, has no qualms with murdering children, and eventually destroys the world. Others will say it's because he's a psychotic idiot who was probably too autistic to even really know WHAT he was doing.

Similarly, with Sephiroth, to some people he was memorable because he was pretty and bishy and sparkly. To others, because he had a huge sword and killed lots of people. And, to others still, because he was completely psychotic and too autistic to even really know WHAT he was doing.

And then you get Seifer, who wasn't really evil in any capacity, but just sort of a massive dickweed (and Ultimecia was too inconsequential for me to really consider her the villain of FF8. I mean, the game even acknowledges this. She's a Macguffin).

Admittedly, I really shouldn't be saying anything here. I very rarely play an RPG long enough that I get to know anything about the villains.
7146  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: This is why you don't mess with spiders on: May 28, 2009, 02:04:40 PM
Centipedes have similar issues like spiders. They're venomous, which is unnerving, and they have millions of oddly moving legs, and the same unnatural looking movements that spiders have.

Additionally, many internet predators are centipedes. I'm not saying ALL centipedes are dirty pedos, but there's a strong tend, here. Because of this I'm completely AGAINST centipede marriage and letting centipedes adopt children. It's just not how god intended it.
7147  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: May 28, 2009, 02:00:42 PM

Beat the black dragon, which was, uh, peculiarly difficult. I don't think I should've mucked around with Riddel, or maybe I should've given her some sort of protection against Anti-White and some defense altering accessories. Actually, originally I was going to use Unicorn (for some reason) and had stamina boosts set up for her. Whoops and dammits. In any case fargo and riddel spent THAT boss stat bonus dead. Whoops and dammits. I did get the black plate though. And Trapped unicorn. I'd be happier if the game made it more apparent what things use which elements for trapping purposes.


Got to the next continent over. Not... not really a whole lot. I was playing it on my porch while it was raining though, which was neat :P


Again not really a whole lot. Still in the way beginning. Just got captured by Lugar and got, uh... Angela in my party (with hawk and lise). I have noticed that hit/damage detection is rather better than in SoM, and that AI is quite rather much better than in SoM, although attacks still get canceled a little too easily and f!@#4 instant-hit magic spells.

Yume Nikki:

IIRC I'm up to about... 14, 15, or 16 effects now. Probably 14. I got the Uboa event, too :P


Did the first quest in the Dragoon storyline. I really need to figure out how AI in this game works for partners. I mean, I know how it works in regards to pets and golems (its fairly trivial to give golems solid AI patterns, and somewhat not very trivial at all to change your pets' personalities) but I DON'T know why Bud is generally rubbish at killing things/not getting killed whereas Nic and Larc are throbbing death machines. Might be something with magic not being that useful for attacking (and if NPCs have hardcoded personalities that make them do certain behaviors).

Also, 2h axes are nice for the damage but they have a much smaller hit area than, say, nunchaku, and they're slower so if you miss it's not really that easy to just readjust your position at will.
7148  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Fucking with nature, Asian style. on: May 28, 2009, 11:54:48 AM
Rats are hideous bastards and deserve whatever they get.

Those and chipmunks. Fuck chipmunks. Destructive, violent little whores-of-the-woods.
7149  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: May 27, 2009, 10:50:50 PM
Secret of Mana:

I beat the Fire Gigas thing or whatever that was. I'm kind of annoyed about how glitchy hit detection is and how easy it is for charged attacks to get cancelled. It'd also be really nice if SD3 wasn't the only game in that series to have competent AI. Also, non-avoidable magic attacks in action RPGs don't jive to well with me unless they're really special things.
7150  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Fucking with nature, Asian style. on: May 27, 2009, 08:14:18 PM
Jeez, given the topic, I figured this would've ended in someone getting their bear bitten off by a penis.
7151  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: May 27, 2009, 04:31:26 PM
DS2. In Chapter 3. What have I done so far...

* Got enough money to get back that Lilim I fused.

* Tried to fuse a... Leana Sidhe or something. Victor went nuts. Gave me an Evil Zombie Officer instead. I sort of regret that so now I need to re-summon Makami and Alp and make Leana Sidhe again. Anyway.

* Encountered White Rider. I'd seen him before and promptly died. All in all it took me four times to kill him and it was awesomepic.

Now I need to do that sidequest where I find some guy called Kuroi so I can get some mad moneys.

Also attempted to play Devil Children White Book last night, except I rather need to learn the kana for that.
7152  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: PETA thinks maple syrup is made of Canadian seal brains or some shit. on: May 27, 2009, 03:59:25 AM
Isn't most maple syrup in america, like, not real maple syrup, anyway? And doesn't most of the real maple syrup in America COME from America -- namely Vermont and the like?

And aren't Canada's most important exports to the US lumber, oil, water, and electricity?
7153  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: PETA thinks maple syrup is made of Canadian seal brains or some shit. on: May 27, 2009, 12:44:27 AM
Let's get the Russians to club some baby seals with their spike-filled penises after we lure the seals out with the fish inside that other dude's penis.
7154  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: May 27, 2009, 12:43:00 AM
Hey I need help on that Curse House mission. No outright telling me what to do please but could I get a few hints? I can't do anythig with the Violent Chicken, and Dark Mannen-Cho doesn't seem to have anything relevant.

Also what is the other quest where you fight 100 demons? I got some things that head a couple ways of... Obariyons and Makamis but nothing near 100 demons (and when I figured out the weaknesses on the Obariyons and casted like, "sword gets elemental property XYZ" on my spear it was just this possitive feedback loop of everything exploding into a beautiful mass of green).

also how the hell DO you use Recarm, life balls, and other revivers?

Anyway, I kind of feel like playing Devil children black, now. Time to go relearn the kana enough so that I can figure out spell names and the like.

(Also, a wonderful quote from the IGN comment box.

"I love me JRPG but none of us should be required to read countless pages of text anymore."

Now can you PLEASE stop asking me why I think that gamers as a whole are pretty illiterate?)


Nevermind. Did the Cursed House thing and the 100 Demon Fight. In the latter, during the Nekomata/Wormpeople waves, I just had Makami and... Alp (null mind/death) spam maragi and mazio. Mazio healed the wormpeople, and hit them fairly frequently, but maragi stunned them too, so the free MAG and crit damage offset it completely.

I hope there are more fights like that. That was simply awesome.
7155  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: May 26, 2009, 04:55:29 PM
I'm about at that point right now. I'll report when I finish this stuff.

I really appreciate how DS2 shows you loads of stuff before you can do anything with it. Law of Miyamoto and all. Much appreciated.
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