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7516  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lets discuss the forgotten SNES Era of RPGs on: December 18, 2008, 08:22:45 PM
Keep in mind I don't have a problem with nostalgia or anything when I said that. I just find circle-jerk-ish articles *like* that to be incredibly boring. They go on forever without saying anything. There's not really anything new you can say about most of those games that hasn't already been said unless you ARE trying to be willfully contrarian (and if that's the case it's also kind of predictable, what ends up being said).


Actually, you COULD talk about the mechanics of the game in a very detailed sort of way but nobody does that much with modern games either. We need game scientists or something. Game mathemeticians. Something. Anything.


Here, even better way of putting it.

FFXII is pretty mainstream. Most people here have probably played it.

Most people here, I'm also assuming this so correct me if I'm wrong, started playing RPGs when they somewhere between 8-12.

Now, while I don't doubt that there ARE 8-12 year olds playing FFXII, they're still a fairly small subset of the total number of people that have played it.

In other words, in ten years, younger kids that've played FFXII recently will look back, wax nostalgic about it, and think it wasn't very mainstream because all of their friends were playing Halo.

... That sounded a lot more concise in my head. Oh well.
7517  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPG's you'd like to see re-released on: December 18, 2008, 08:15:03 PM
JP, I believe the Phantasy Star games were remade with cel shaded graphics and all for the Playstation 2, but it's Japan only.  Surprise surprise.

2D, Sprite-based remakes that are supposedly very shovelware.

Innocent Sin in English (using the Oracle of Maiya translation)

I'd like to say more about this but I doubt I'm allowed to for various reasons.

Persona 1 without a hackjob translation

I take the old translation if they offered some remixed dungeons :[

Anyway, how about a Quest for Glory 3 remake? That one seemed to need it the most.

Speaking of Planescape though, honeslty, I have no idea why someone hasn't put it up on Steam or something like that yet. Doesn't bioware have the rights to it? Online distribution would be like http://www.lesko.com/lesko_cart/images/standing.gif

7518  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Game Journal MXVII: Crisis Atelier Spectral Moon III on: December 18, 2008, 07:55:04 PM
I'm now 21 hours in and have achieved level 50.

DQ7's the opposite for me. I'm at about 57 hours in and everyone's around or at level 19.


I played Tombs and Treasure. I'm... got the pipes. It'd be easier to figure out what I was supposed to do with them if the game had an "Examine item" command.
7519  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Goths leech the joy out of fucking everything. on: December 18, 2008, 07:52:31 PM
A cat is fine too.
7520  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lets discuss the forgotten SNES Era of RPGs on: December 18, 2008, 05:38:16 PM
I was going to say that 90% of the editorials about how so-and-so time period was the golden-age of such-and-such medium are just massive, bleary-eyed, nostalgic circle jerks, but in reality it's more like 100%.
7521  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Suikoden DS on: December 18, 2008, 05:31:06 PM
The only good thing I've ever heard about Suik 2's battle system is that it's fast and you can mostly ignore it. How is ignorable gameplay GOOD gameplay :(
7522  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPG's you'd like to see re-released on: December 18, 2008, 05:27:22 PM
If every boss had a certain level, instead on them levelling up when you do, the game would then be a bit harder I suppose.

Bosses gain stats faster from leveling than you do, so the leveling actually makes the game harder in theory. In practice, you can still blow through most of them by spamming summons.

3 bucks for Torment?  If you look at any online resource that sells used games, Torment sells for at least 13 times that.

WTF? I don't even remember the game being that rare.
7523  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lets discuss the forgotten SNES Era of RPGs on: December 17, 2008, 10:25:55 PM
Also I like how some of the menus in Robotrek have tooltips and some don't.

If there's one innovation in modern RPGs I love, it's the auto-journal feature.


I'm sort of lost in Shin Megami Tensei 1.

My Ultima 7 notes files is 2000 words long.

My ultima 4 notes file is shorter but still like 900 some words.

(Tool tips, on the other hand, are the reason for why, in their absence, I have a WHOLE lot of trouble with DOS-era strategy games. Part of this is probably why I don't have much trouble with Dwarf Fortress or something).

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Breath of Fire II yet.

I would've, except I played it during the GBA rerelease era, and when attempting to get back into it I realized how utterly broken and not-good the gameplay is :/

Gaming Developers didn't grind out action games




7524  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Suggestions for American RPG's? on: December 17, 2008, 10:20:27 PM
Icewind Dale games are kind of borderline strategy RPG in how they progress. IWD was at least. All three hours of it I played.
7525  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Game Journal MXVII: Crisis Atelier Spectral Moon III on: December 17, 2008, 10:18:51 PM
I think if I went back and played WA2 now I'd like it a lot more than I did in the past. Actually I tried doing that for awhile and liked it although the personal skill system is dumb.



* Got Melvin.
* Got Dragon Whip for Melvin.
* Got Flame Claw for Gabo. This attacks twice, basically.
* Maribel class-uped.
* Conclusion: My party's Kenshiro all up in that bitch right now.

Tried doing that Ark Tower thing in the present but got stuck. I have some vague idea as to what I might need to do but I'm going to do something else instead. Namely, go to Dharma and make Melvin a class.


* Got female hero.
* Talked to Gotou
* Need to heal then go explore some tunnels to find some amerifucks or whatever.

Persona 3 -

* Played for the hell of it.
* Got some personas.
* Why does Legion have sexy dance?
* Unlocked terminal on level 59.


* Attempted to get Myau's other weapon.
* Dungeon kicked my ass.
7526  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Suggestions for American RPG's? on: December 17, 2008, 08:34:50 PM
Not to mention I didn't know who this character is or how I related to the world I'm in or anything.

If you play through the storyline, you find out what your character's purpose is. Did you try doing the main quest line or any of the Great House quest lines at all? Basically, though, you kind of end up being Jesus and one of your goals is to stop a horrible volcano thing from turning everyone into zombies. That's all I'm going to say.

Honestly though it's not that hard of a game. If all the openness is bothering you, it's fairly easy to just do the main quests and skip all the option stuff completely if you want.

Now that I think of it I played Summoner for the Playstation 2 when it first came out.

From my understanding, Summoner 2 doesn't even play remotely similarly.

My favorite Japanese accomplishments are the Taj Mahal and the Great Wall of China.

Goddamn everything is getting outsourced to Japan these days.

I hesitantly recommend Septerra Core.

Septerra Core's single biggest flaw is that it's basically ATB, only it takes forever for your little charge bar to ever fill and then the attack animations take forever too. And you can't speed it up. Ever.

As far as Americn RPGs go, though, totally Ultima. I mean how more american can you get than Texas?
7527  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPG's you'd like to see re-released on: December 17, 2008, 08:18:34 PM
I always thought Dragon Warrior 7 deserved a much better translation than what it got.

I know it's a PC title, but I'd like to see a rerelease of Planescape: Torment so folks don't have to pay a hefty price for a copy.  It's kinda in that "best game that no one's played" category.

I think I payed all of three bucks for Torment like, a few years back*. I didn't play it much, although I'll admit that I'm not that fond of any of the Infinity engine games. Just a liiiittle bit too much a tendency to throw stuff at you at once.

While I'm a huge FF8 fan (favorite in the series), I'm not sure it NEEDS a remake as much as some of the others.

FFVIII's gameplay was pretty broken. I think adding in some sort of actual difficulty would be reason enough to remake it. Maybe make it so you can't just spam GF summons for... pretty much all of the game except for three or so boss fights?

Not because it's flawed (in fact, I think it's possibly the least flawed in the series tied with FF9),

Objectively speaking, FFVI was pretty flawed just in the sense that it had a lot of bugs.

* Maybe I should change this to pretty damn all of three bucks. That that this line makes any sense anymore because I just changed the rest of the post. Whoops.
7528  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Would you name your kid Hitler? on: December 17, 2008, 08:17:18 PM
Aryan Nation was the shittiest fucking Civ mod ever. I mean, if Kid Hitler was one of the worst beat 'em ups I've ever played, it's pure gold compared to Aryan Nation.
7529  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Suggestions for American RPG's? on: December 17, 2008, 02:58:03 AM
What didn't you like about Morrowind? Answering this will allow for more accurate recommendations to you.

My recommendation is Ultima 7, which is an older title but very good. http://exult.sourceforge.net/ <- Fanmade windows port but you need an original copy of the game to use it.

Ultima 6 is also great of course, although there's no Windows version so you'll need a dos emulator like DOS Box. Actually, most of the Western-style RPG... Well, here.



Quest for Glory 2 VGA. Especially if you liked the day-to-day life thing Persona 3 did. http://www.agdinteractive.com/index2.html

Ultima 4 remake which is probably too archaic for what you're interested in but what the hell http://xu4.sourceforge.net/


Wizardry 8, which should be cheap now.
The original Fallout.


http://www.dosbox.com/ Requires dos emulator to use.
http://dfendreloaded.sourceforge.net/ Makes dos emulator easier to use


Betrayal at Krondor- First person, grid-based combat system, really good writing and indepth NPCs, fairly directed storyline but lots of sidequests, nice music... also freeware and not that hard to get running in DOSBox.

Avalon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbV7yBXOI8 I played it a long time ago. No idea what it's like.


Albion, which is actually german, but great, and quite similar to how JRPGs are structured.
Quest for Glory
Ultima 6 and 7, as already mentioned.


Summoner 2
7530  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Game Journal MXVII: Crisis Atelier Spectral Moon III on: December 17, 2008, 12:22:49 AM
Yeah, I looked in a FAQ. I still don't remember ever going to the place where the thing is by....

"going to the place where the thing is by" wow. I have a paper to right tonight. This is going to be a really bad paper.
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