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8026  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Looking for a PSX RPG(Click for details!) on: September 15, 2008, 12:26:39 AM
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3. Lots of games use skill-based leveling to much effect.

Technically the first game to use it, I believe, was Wizardry, which had traditional levels and experience, but the sort of stat gains you got depended on what you did in battle. You could also lose stats. And it was namnogo punishinger than FF2 ever was.

But yeah, skill based levelling systems predated SaGa.

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Persona -- Though it's probably the worst of the series (it seems to get progressively better, though some ppl swear by the import P2 Innocent Sin), it's an excellent game to try out.

I liked Persona more than Eternal Punishment in some regards. Both games sort of fail at dungeon design so I won't be discussing that, and I do tend to think that Persona 3 is the best in the series by a sizable margin for a large number of reasons. Anyway, stuff I liked a lot about Persona 1:

More characters: Fairly minor point, but P2: EP only had Nate or Ellen, whereas in P1, you got to pick betweeeeen Chris, Brad, Alana, and Ellen to choose from, in addition to the other four characters.

Persona Fusion: From what I remember, in IS, you had regular SMT style fusion, but in EP, it was like "Collect X number of cards to summon a demon," and I didn't like this as much as what P1 and IS had.

Battle systemy stuff: Weapons were useful in P1, and everyone gets guns AND melee weapons which can both be useful as they act differently. Weapons were not useful in P2. Also maybe it's just me but P2 seemed to have a higher encounter rate. Additionally, I actually liked the "range and position matter" thing in P1. Also, P2's interface bugged me a lot here. It's like in Phantasy Star 2, where the default command is "Start Auto Battle" and you have to sort of go out of your way to enter commands. Battles tend to last forever in both games so whatever.

Points about the translation I feel I should mention: From a grammar and writing standpoint, it's pretty much on par for the era and there's nothing outright Breath of Fire 2sian about it. Yes, it was Americanized a bunch, but this never bothered me. Your mileage may vary. I will say that I found EP's writing to be incredibly stiff, although this was, apparently, just EP, and not the translation, as people that played IS tell me it had better dialogue or something. chaning the spell names in P1 was seriously annoying though, especially when you get used to the regular naming system the rest of the series uses.
8027  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Looking for a PSX RPG(Click for details!) on: September 14, 2008, 10:43:05 PM
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Arc the Lad is some gay action rpg

http://www.yellow5.com/pokey/archive/index351.html
8028  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Looking for a PSX RPG(Click for details!) on: September 14, 2008, 07:31:03 PM
Play Trigger second. It'll be a more objective experience that way.

Anyway, the other problem with "No Square games!" is that square sort of made a relatively sizable percentage of PSX games.

With that, I'm gonna go go ahead and throw SaGa Frontier out there. Battle system is pretty neat and sort of like Chrono Trigger's with a different combo system and strictly turn based instead of ATB, and there's something like 30 recruitable characters.

Also, depending on how rigidly you're against strategy RPGs, Arc the Lad 2 MIGHT work. It has a strategic battle system but it's far more of a regular RPG.
8029  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Mmm... Yum! on: September 14, 2008, 07:27:14 PM
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Asians eat some of the weirdest shit.

Totally unrelated but maybe not. I always see things on TV like "Ruby Teusday's New Asian Salad!" or "Hi I'm Guy Fierri and today we're making Asian-style salmon chunks."

Asia's a pretty huge continent with millions of cultures in it.

As a vegetarian, by the way, this doesn't bother me. Also, if you think cows are such a problem in regards to CO2 emissions, just shoot the damn things. I'm cool with that as long as I'm not *eating* them.
8030  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Good Job, OSU. on: September 14, 2008, 07:08:24 PM
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I'm there right now, man. Transfer student, so it's my first semester.

HOLY CRAP WHAT. Are you living on campus or off campus? What're you majoring in?
8031  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Good Job, OSU. on: September 14, 2008, 02:32:54 PM
I'm glad I went to Bowling Green. C-bus is full of gay people and midgets, apparently, although neither of those two bother me and I can be quite fond of one of those groups (not telling which!). You have to admit, though, BG's town area is a bit of a jank mupp, and our mall consists of something like 10 stores, whereas C-bus offers such fine shopping and culture opportunities as Easton Center, Polaris, Tuttle, and all of the nice shops on Sawmill road (and as I type this, I'm looking at the cute little podocarp I bought at the nursery formerly known as Frank's Garden Center).
8032  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Man, I'm bored out of my mind. on: September 13, 2008, 11:00:56 PM
No, that's game is general. Although I'm limitting it to retail games. If I were to throw in freewaer game it'd get huge.
8033  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Vampire the Masquarade: Bloodlines on: September 13, 2008, 10:59:46 PM
I don't remember having any problems with controls being slidy or loose, although I played as a Gangrel, and they have some interesting melee-related skills, and I usually stealth killed people as much as possible anyway.
8034  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Man, I'm bored out of my mind. on: September 12, 2008, 11:46:44 PM
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But yeah, I won't be bored for a long time. My backlog of RPGs is around 40 games.

~350 and growing.
8035  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Depression after finishing games. on: September 12, 2008, 11:46:05 PM
This is why I like sidequests. Done with the game? Go ahead and beat it. Not done with the game? Do some sidequests.

In general though I rarely finish games. QfG2 looks like it'll be an exception is it's not that long. I WILL be sad when that's finished.

Although, it's replayable. I could go through as a thief, or a wizard. I'm not doing EOF or WIT on this playthrough, after all, and I'm not, certainly, a combat oriented character. Nor did I get all the nifty stuff for my room, or see all of the, Shema and Shameen conversations.

That is another reason why I like sidequests.

Oh, also, if I get around to killing Lavos again, I'll probably be sad as CT's becoming progressively deader to me. There's nothing new I could really get out of a replay, there.
8036  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Man, I'm bored out of my mind. on: September 12, 2008, 08:55:44 PM
I went back to school a few weeks ago how is this relevant
8037  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Man, I'm bored out of my mind. on: September 11, 2008, 11:01:09 PM
Also it's a PC RPG but freeware VGA remake of Quest for Glory 2 is pretty fantastic.
8038  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Vampire the Masquarade: Bloodlines on: September 11, 2008, 11:34:09 AM
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and the control is as clunky as can be.

The game just uses standard WASD + Mouse movement and essentially plays like an FPS (unless you switch to melee, in which case it's in the 3rd person but still plays the same way). The controls aren't any better or worse than any other FPS because they're more or less identical.
8039  Media / The Soundroom / Re: Song of the Moment: 15th Anniversary Edition on: September 10, 2008, 10:28:00 PM
Cockney Rebel - Sebastian.

It's always fucking Sebastian. Except when it's We Were Born Mutants Again with Leafling. I don't know which between the two of those is my favorite song.
8040  Media / The Soundroom / Re: What is hell? on: September 10, 2008, 10:26:11 PM
What is hell? A miserable pile of secrets! Baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me, no more.
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