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16  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake on: January 02, 2016, 01:20:01 AM
If the company wants to recoup its massive costs for FF7:R, then yes it needs to appeal to a wider market to generate those sales.  Oldhead traditionalists can cry foul all they want, but business is business.  You can't depend on a niche market for big time sales.  And although we seem like the big time here in our little RPGFan club house, we're not the big time out in the real world.  I'm something of a traditionalist too.  I don't like real time twitch based combat.  I like my patient turn-based battling.  But I accept that I am part of a niche.  RPG fans are a niche market in gaming and within that market, we "oldhead traditionalist" are a sub-niche.  And, again, you can't depend on niche markets for big sales.  That's business 101.  

Besides, there's a new mainline Dragon Quest on the horizon as well, so even if Square Enix doesn't get oldhead traditionalist dollars for FF7: R, they'll get those oldhead traditionalist dollars for Dragon Quest XI (which is slated for PS4 and 3DS, the 3DS version having the option for good ol' 2D graphics).  

So for all the huffing and puffing we're doing here, Square Enix is still going to get our dollars either way (whether it be for nu-school FF7:R or old-school DQ11) and will probably be laughing all the way to the bank.  

The original Final Fantasy back in the NES days (what was it, 1989 or so?) was one of those high-risk, high reward gambles, and it paid off.  I wonder if FF7:R is one of those "high risk, high reward" gambles now.  So I'm kinda glad they're blazing their own trail with this, not kowtowing to the whims of whiny nobodies like us, and showing that rebellious fire that made us like them as a company in the first place back when we were young.  Go big or go home, right?  And no one ever went big without a little controversy, and FF7:R is certainly stirring up some controversy. 

EDIT: And go figure, Dragon Quest has that DQ Builders spinoff coming up that's inspired by Minecraft to try and tap into that market.  I liken that to bands who play as cover bands to make money to fund studio time and tours so they can professionally record and put out their original material.  

if rpg's are so niche why bother with them at all. something ive been asking myself lately as rpg's didnt seem niche in the playstation and ps2 era. i noticed a lot of people in my circle of friends stopped playing rpg's around the time halo 2 came out.

also i think theres an assumption that people that want the game to be turn based dont want to see the game change at all. i dont care if the combat is turn based but i really think you are losing something if the combat is like a tales game or something. to me a big part of classic FF games is control over all your party members actions. if they could make some kind of hybrid battle system similar to valkyria chronicles has id be ok with that. but i feel they want to appeal to the lowest common denominator with style over substance in a similar vain to the naruto fighting games cyber connect makes.

reviewing the trailer again i do have some glimmer of hope. you never see more than one character doing damage at any one time. there a couple frames where both cloud and barret are attacking but only the character the camera is focused on does damage.
17  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake on: January 01, 2016, 07:37:37 PM
to me this seems hypocritical. SE themeselves said they were surprised that bravely default sold so well. yet if i look at thier offerings since then it doesnt seem to occur to them why. or it does but they are still desperatly trying for those call of duty level of sales.
18  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake on: January 01, 2016, 03:04:34 PM
i would argue the hate actually comes from a place of love. some parents love thier kids so much thier kids can do no wrong. others love thier kids so much they discipline them because they know they can do better and are capable of so much more.
19  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake on: January 01, 2016, 04:35:59 AM
action based combat = hate. episodic just added more fuel to the fire.
20  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake on: December 31, 2015, 09:10:01 PM
now you know how i felt about all the hate the ff13 games received
21  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake on: December 31, 2015, 03:22:32 PM
know what i dont get about this game? if your gonna outsource the games development why not mistwalker instead of cyberconnect? then you would at least be getting one person responsible for the original game.
22  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: FINAL FANTASY XV, This is a fantasy based on reality. on: December 31, 2015, 01:53:00 PM
its still the same basic concept in terms of character and setting. im personally thinking of never again playing a game that nomura had a major hand in. i hope this game succeeds not because i like it but because i want tabata to get the chance to craft his own game instead of fixing someones elses fuckups.
23  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The Final General Fantasy Discussion Thread on: December 31, 2015, 11:44:36 AM
FF9 coming to smart phones and pc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oDeSJI0qJc

incidently FF14 is getting a zidane outfit
24  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake on: December 30, 2015, 12:45:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyJHW-QvsUo
25  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of Berseria on: December 22, 2015, 09:46:38 AM
appearently berseria takes place in the same world as zestiria but in the distant past.

http://www.siliconera.com/2015/12/22/tales-of-berseria-takes-place-in-the-past-world-of-tales-of-zestiria/
26  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / god eater coming west on: December 21, 2015, 12:24:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcgxraQxhj0

http://www.siliconera.com/2015/12/21/god-eater-resurrection-and-god-eater-2-rage-burst-is-headed-to-north-america/
27  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: FINAL FANTASY XV, This is a fantasy based on reality. on: December 20, 2015, 03:10:05 PM
Colin- there was one sentiment to your editorial that really spoke to me.  The whole notion that "the fans are not always right" and that they should be careful what they wish for.  I look at Metallica.  If they had catered to fans' wishes are made "...And Justice for All part 2" they would NOT have broken out into the mainstream and gotten the incredible success they did with Black album.  Sure "tr00, hardcore" fans cried foul about it and abandoned them, but you know what?  If Metallica had made another "Justice," those same fans would have said, "Eh, this is the same-old same-old.  Metallica is growing stale, trite, and out of ideas, doing the same shit over and over again.  I'm over them.  I'm gonna abandon them for the next cool band."  So because Metallica did what they wanted to do, they achieved greater success than any of their contemporaries.  "Tr00" fan be damned, because they have thousands of new ones to make up for losing you. 

Unless, the whole "fan feedback" thing is all a ruse to make it think that the fans have a voice and quell them while, behind closed doors, doing exactly what they want to do.  It could be all business politics.  Every businessman and politician spouts rhetoric that you want to hear and makes you think they're listening to you, when in reality the pat on the back they're giving you is a "kick me" sign.  Or while a corporate fatcat is shaking hands with you, his houseboy is picking your pocket.

I'm intrigued by conspiracy theories.  Can you tell?

I said this in the FFVII remake thread.  If Square Enix listens to fan feedback and make it so that Aeris lives, then the whole story would either turn to shit or just be so different, so far removed from the source material that the outcry would be, "This is NOT Final Fantasy VII!!!"

All this being said, a part of me does buy into the hype that FFXV and the FFVII remake are make-or-break for the company.

i think it's not so much that the fan isnt always right, but that the people they are listening too may not be fans. or the type who's first FF game was 13.

i think gaming is in a weird spot right now. a lot of people are gonna be exiting the target demograph soon if they havent already. yet those people can be extremely vocal if a dev tries to ignore them and shift to the younger generation.
28  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: FINAL FANTASY XV, This is a fantasy based on reality. on: December 20, 2015, 08:08:44 AM
im sure the growing crowd of westaboo's will love ff15 to death and call persona 5 weaboo trash.
29  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: FINAL FANTASY XV, This is a fantasy based on reality. on: December 18, 2015, 01:35:52 AM
yeah totally persona 5
30  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of Berseria on: December 17, 2015, 03:20:07 AM
im pretty sure the title berseria is a play on the word berserk so im sorta expecting the protag to be like claire in claymore.
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