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2371  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Questions about PS3 or 360 on: March 31, 2008, 02:22:41 PM
Do they play XBLA downloadable games?  I heard not, but the ones that they said were not were connected by a USB cable.
2372  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Questions about PS3 or 360 on: March 31, 2008, 01:23:19 PM
Interesting. I thought only the PS3 could do that.  I didn't know that and the Gamestop employees certainly did not tell me that when I asked what I was missing out on by buying the arcade edition (yes I did a bit of research on my own too, but I never came across that tidbit of information).  If any of the games I'm really interested in ends up requiring it, I'll be very pissed.

I agree the XBLA games are fantastic for the most part, but if you're uninterested in them, the arcade version isn't too bad (I've had my system for 3 months and it still hasn't been online yet).  I posted a link for a portable harddrive for the basic system in my earlier post that could work, I think, for the arcade version.  I don't know how to install it though.
2373  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Questions about PS3 or 360 on: March 30, 2008, 03:54:30 PM
Quote from: "Lord Dorkus"
The Arcade unit of the 360 does not come with a harddrive but does come with a memory card. To tell you the truth you should stick with the Elites or Premium, which in reality is what Microsoft considers to be the real Xbox 360s. Even though the hard drive is mostly used for downloading movies, TV shows, games, demos, and BC, devs from time to time use it to improve loading performance on in their games. I can't tell you which games use it because I alway play with it attached but I do know that they do make use of it and that Microsoft also suggest that they make use of it. It is not a bad idea to get one that has it already rather than buying it later.

I kind of have to disagree.  I have the arcade and it's perfect if you don't care about large scale downloadable content and just want to play the games released online or offline.  It comes with a 256 memory card which looks to hold plenty of game saves.  If you decide you want to download arcade games, a portable harddrive for the core system goes for about $50 used on Amazon

Quote from: "Eusis"
Plus look at the upcoming lineup: Final Fantasy IV, Final Fantasy Tactics A2, The World Ends with You, Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood, Soma Bringer (if it comes out in the US anyway), Etrian Odyssey 2, Sigma Harmonics, Rondo of Swords, and probably more that aren't coming to mind right now. Oh, and GameRankings didn't list Front Mission, and there's other borderline games people may care about (Zelda, Castlevanias).

Also to add to that list is Project Exile/Black Sigil: Blade of the Exile (same game, new name).  It's an indie game coming out for the DS in Q2 of 2008.  It may or may not be any good, but I'm pretty stoked for it.

Quote from: "Robert Boyd"
Personally, I'd vote the 360 unless you absolutely must get...FF13 (both of which may end up getting ported anyway)

Quote from: "dalucifer0"
What's with all the 360 fanboys saying that FFXIII and MGS4 are getting ported to the 360. It's not happening...Square-Enix said time and time again both are PS3 exclusives.

Indeed.  FF13 spin-offs are going to show up on the 360 but the main game really looks like it will not.  Like someone said in an earlier thread about this, I want to see what the PS3 can do in terms of a Jrpg.  Hell I'm not much of a MGS fan but once I'll probably end up at least renting MGS4.
2374  The Rest / General Discussions / DICE NEEDS HELP- advertising class questionnaire! on: March 30, 2008, 03:38:50 PM
1. Do you smoke cigarettes?  - no

12. If you do not smoke, why not?  Parents smoked a lot and so did relatives.  I thought it smelt like shit and made them smell like shit.  I remember visiting my aunt's house and it was hard to breathe in their house because it smelled so much like smoke (much worse than a bar in terms of smell)

13. What brand of cigarettes first comes to mind? Marlboro

14. Name some other cigarette brands/companies you have heard of.
Winston, Laramie

15. Have you noticed any recent against smoking advertisements?

16. Have you seen/heard of the series of Stupid.ca advertisements?

17. Where did you see them? (Circle any that apply).

18. Describe what you remember about the ads.

If they are the ones I think they are, they're the ones that present some anti-smoking fact in a large, grand-scale presentation on the streets and film it.

19. Please rate from 1 to 5 how successful you thought the stupid.ca advertisements are.

2 Fairly Successful

20. Before you were reminded by this survey, did you remember their organizationís name and logo?


21. Whatís your opinion of cigarettes?  Dislike it in general. Hate going to bars and coming home and smelling like shit.

22. Whatís your opinion of cigarette products?  I don't buy them, so I don't have an opinion.

23. Whatís your opinion of cigarette companies?  They aren't much different than any other big corporation.


24. What is your gender?

25. What is your age?

26. What is your current occupation?
(Circle any that apply)  - [student]

27. Approx. Annual Income:
[Under $4,9999]
2375  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Xenogears - Games of this scale, advice required on: March 22, 2008, 07:34:14 PM
Asking here won't give you an unbiased view of it, but it's one of my favorites  but with the amount of good games out there, I wouldn't sweat it if you don't get to play it.

The mature themes like philosophy and religion aren't really a big part of it like others have said.  I wouldn't go as far as to call it on par with a 15 year old's journal, but it definitely isn't the main focus (like someone mentioned).  There are a lot of good staff and reader reviews for this game in RPGfan's review section.

If you're looking for a mature game though, yes DDS and Shin Megami Tensei series is a good series for that.  I can't really think of any others off the top of my head.

Also, I just noticed Dincrest's post and I pretty much agree with what he said (but I can't comment on the War and Peace or Mahabharata since I haven't read those)
2376  The Rest / General Discussions / RPGFan Gaming Journal: The Road to Infinity on: March 22, 2008, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: "Miho"
Quote from: "Azrael"
Yea, I don't remember much from that point either but thats because I remember it being very uneventful and boring.  

Replaying FF7.  In the Corel Prison trying to make my way out on the races.  Been so long since I played this but things are slowly coming back...also hte story finally makes a bit more sense this time around.

Even replaying it still makes little sense because the translation is bad. One reason why I want Square-Enix to make the FFVII remake is to make an improved translation.

You make it sound like the whole game is written in Engrish.  I didn't really have any trouble making sense of things (though I probably played the game 3 or so times because back then, I usually didn't have a backlog and wanted something to play =P)
2377  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Gamasutra - A Japanese RPG Primer: The Essential 20 on: March 21, 2008, 06:31:40 PM
Quote from: "pinkspiderx"
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Quote from: "DM Kyle E. Miller"
Besides what a few people have already said, there's one game that should be cast away and only included if the list extended to 100 RPGs: FF XII.

I liked FF XII (it would be in my top 21) except it got ridiculously hard after Raithwalls Tomb..

FF12 was hard? Only if you didn't try and make use of the gambits and license board.

I used the Mist Charges alot I was just refering to when you had to 'avoid' the Elementals (I should have put that in there) I was bad at avoiding them and kept dying, haha.

FF12 can be easy or hard depending on how you go about things.  If you do enough hunts to get the Niphilophia (yes this spelling is butchered) at rank 4 or 5, the game becomes a lot easier.  It all comes down to what you do.

As for the elementals... they are probably one of the hardest non-boss creature i've ever faced in a final fantasy.  Even after having a lot of advanced job hunt equipment, being fully buffed, etc; I still had trouble beating some of them.  A level 25 elemental could be tough even at level 45.  Tough creatures.

The list is okay.. quite a lot of final fantasys on there but one of my major dissapointments on there was no Secret of Mana or Super Mario RPG.  Sure, SoM was mentioned (could even call it an honorable mention) but that's my one personal beef.  I played through the game with one of my best friends when it came out so it was a really enjoyable experience.  

I also agree that a Tales should be on that list, probably Tales of Abyss (i liked symphonia better, but abyss was the better game imo).

Quote from: "Eusis"
2 - Final Fantasy V is the one entry in the series to do the Job system best without falling into a subgenre (Tactical or MMO) and generally considered the best from a pure gameplay standpoint, seems to fit to me. I think FFVIII could be dropped though despite the article making me kind of want to replay it.

Agreed.  Story wasn't anything great and it probably doesn't deserve to be on the list, but I really, really enjoyed the gameplay aspect of it.  I didn't do the whole Dragoon/white mages to keep things more pure.  I might have done things like a samurai with nin dual wield, dragoon with a warrior's double grip, or a summoner with white magic.

I guess overall I agree with everyone that there's a lot of personal preference in it and narrowing it down would be tough.
2378  The Rest / General Discussions / I don't remember falling asleep last night! on: March 20, 2008, 07:40:50 PM
Hmm, we're about at the same place in LO, Prime Mover.

Anyway, I only recall falling asleep once while gaming and it was while watching .Hack//GU volume 3's (the final one) ending.  Kinda strange that I played/drudged through all 3 games yet fell asleep during the final scenes.  From what I remember, I don't recall missing much anyhow =P
2379  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Persona 4 info! on: March 19, 2008, 10:24:05 PM
Quote from: "ValendianKnight"
Quote from: "Akanbe-"
Quote from: "ValendianKnight"
though I skipped around and landed on a scene about the Velvet Room with Igor. I was shocked to notice they are using the SAME EXACT song. Not different, not even a little bit. They just re-used it.

Persona 2 Innocent Sin and Persona 2 Eternal Punishment both used the same song except lower quality and no singing (just piano).

I'm glad they kept it... except it almost looks like a velvet room ran by P. Diddy.

But you do realize those are still both really the same game, split into two right?

How could I know that they have the same velvet room music but not know the two games were related?  

Annnyways,  something that I missed the first time I scanned the details of P4 was the length.  1.5x the length of Persona 3?  That seems insanely long to me.  Persona 3 kept me hooked the whole way through, but I'm wondering (and hoping) if Persona 4 could keep me interested 1.5 times that?
2380  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Persona 4 info! on: March 19, 2008, 05:54:20 PM
Quote from: "ValendianKnight"
though I skipped around and landed on a scene about the Velvet Room with Igor. I was shocked to notice they are using the SAME EXACT song. Not different, not even a little bit. They just re-used it.

Persona 2 Innocent Sin and Persona 2 Eternal Punishment both used the same song except lower quality and no singing (just piano).

I'm glad they kept it... except it almost looks like a velvet room ran by P. Diddy.
2381  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Persona 4 info! on: March 19, 2008, 02:06:56 PM
Quote from: "Lard"
I'm not watching the trailer - not if you guys say it's spoilery.
But it seems like the odd numbered ones will focus on high school kids while the even numbered ones have a bit more of a horror feel to them.
At least that's the pattern I'm detecting.

I watched some of it and while I did skip parts (it's 14 minutes long), unless you are fluent in Japanese (which you might be, I don't know) it's probably not all that spoilerish.  But, better safe than sorry.  Game sounds good and I wouldn't want to be spoiled either.
2382  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Persona 4 info! on: March 19, 2008, 01:08:50 PM
Quote from: "Raziel"
It looks good. I didn't watch the whole trailer though because it's too spoilerish for me, just some scenes here and there. Music sounds similar to P3, but it isn't necessarily a bad thing.

No evokers this time.

You bring up a good point.  Most of the P3 movies released were chock full of spoilers but they might not have been necessarily noticeable what was going on unless you were actually playing it.  I found a couple P3 movies on my HD yesterday that I downloaded off the official site last summer and was surprised at how many spoiler scenes from P3 were shown such as (late P3 spoilers obviously)
the protagonists hung up on crosses with Aegis aiming at them and the scene where Chidori revives Junpei at the cost of her own life.
2383  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Persona 4 info! on: March 19, 2008, 11:28:57 AM
A trailer for Persona 4 has appeared online (possible spoilers):

download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=17IQPILY
streaming:  Gametrailers

Haven't had time to watch it yet, but so far things sound pretty good from the details released.  I don't care that the battle system is similar as long as there is more than one dungeon this time.
2384  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Anime/Manga Journal on: March 18, 2008, 08:09:45 PM
Back when I was a complete anime fanboy, I couldn't stand Slayers.  Even though I don't think it's supposed to be serious, the whole comedy aspect was a turn-off.  I can't remember ever selling a dvd set on ebay as fast as I sold that one =P
2385  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Persona 4 info! on: March 18, 2008, 12:48:41 PM
Thanks Lard.

There's also some more pictures (magazine scans only at the moment) over at: http://www.rpgamer.com/games/persona/persona4/propaganda/persona4propaganda031808-1.html .
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