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2116  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: August 14, 2012, 05:45:19 PM
In Japan P4A is the best selling fighting game this generation.  It's also dominating in arcades.  There is going to be a P4A-2.

That has nothing do with P5, though.  Certainly P5 is in development but it's a seperate project.  And I don't know why you think Atlus would be making a grand finale to the series since its their cash cow.
2117  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: August 14, 2012, 12:53:04 PM
the problem with what some of you are suggesting is that the ending of P4 arena is clearly setting up a sequel. though i dont think any P4 characters will be around for that except naoto unless some join mitsuru's anti shadow task force.

Obviously it's setting up a sequel...a sequel to P4A.  I mean heck, this is Arcsys we're talking about.  When have they ever released only a single iteration of one of their fighting games?  There's going to be a P4A-2 or something.

I also think it's crazy to assume that P5 will continue a storyline set up in a spin-off fighting game, canon or not
2118  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: August 14, 2012, 02:43:21 AM
While it's entirely possible some of the P3 crew will appear in P5 as NPCs I very much doubt they're going to be the main characters.  But that's just what my gut tells me, how should I know (how should any of us know...).
2119  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: August 12, 2012, 03:42:17 AM
I have a rubber ear tip from my in-ear headphones stuck in my ear and I can't get it out...

Yay, finally got it out.  It was stuck in there for like two hours...
2120  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Persona 4 G: Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena (PS3/360/Arc) Announced (2012,ASW/Atlus) on: August 11, 2012, 02:14:07 PM
OK, about the glasses thing, it's not a plot hole at all!  Persona 4 spoilers:

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The glasses are necessary in Persona 4 to see through the fog.  You find out at the end that the fog is being made by the final boss thing (I can't remember its name right now...) and you defeat it.  With that thing gone there shouldn't be any more fog, so why would they need glasses?
2121  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Persona 4 G: Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena (PS3/360/Arc) Announced (2012,ASW/Atlus) on: August 10, 2012, 05:55:29 PM
Well I'm going to have to disagree with you, Beaker.  The story does not blow.  It's quite good, in fact.  I think they did a remarkable job of incorporating all this different characters and making them fight each other.  The only one who feels a little forced is Elizabeth, but then she's just kind of wandering around doing her own thing.

Is it repetitive?  Sure, a bit.  You're seeing the same events from different perspectives, so it's only natural.  Every story has something to add, though, especially when you start getting into the P3 characters.  And as mentioned, Elizabeth is really just doing her own thing.  Her story is totally unique.

Labrys's story may have been a bit predictable (though I wonder how much of that is just because of the hints dropped in the other stories), but the writing really shines.  Good writing can make even the mundane interesting, but in this case they're starting with something interesting and making it fantastic.  I do wish there were more actual fights in her story, though.

Really, the worst are the starting four characters.  Well, they're not bad the first time but they really are pretty much the same.  I guess Yu at least has the velvet room scenes to mix things up, but the other three...Yukiko's was especially weak, which disappointed me because I really liked Yukiko in P4.  But when you start getting into the P3 characters and even the rest of the P4 cast then I think there are plenty of original moments.  They do all sort of end the same, but that kind of has to happen for the idea of having a consisten canon to make sense.  I agree the ending was a disappointment...definitely sequel-baiting.
2122  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Persona 4 G: Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena (PS3/360/Arc) Announced (2012,ASW/Atlus) on: August 10, 2012, 02:40:47 AM
OK, having completed a significant fraction of the stories, including what I think are all the main characters, I can safely conclude that they really did decide to leave things wide open for a sequel.  I'm kind of bummed by the lack of resolution.  I guess Arcsys really did want to annualize this series.  On the other hand, since the game sold quite well I think a sequel is pretty much guaranteed now.
2123  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: The Last Guardian on: August 10, 2012, 02:31:36 AM
Report: The Last Guardian Trademark ‘Abandoned’

Here

I don't get it...did you completely ignore the last 10 posts?
2124  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Persona 4 G: Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena (PS3/360/Arc) Announced (2012,ASW/Atlus) on: August 09, 2012, 02:54:43 PM
I haven't done Elizabeth's story yet so it's possible it might wrap things up, but after finishing a few of the character's stories completely, post cliffhanger (you have to play through Labrys's story before you can actually finish the others), it really seems like they're leaving things wide open for a sequel...
2125  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdoms of Amalur on: August 09, 2012, 12:51:26 PM
I can't say that I'm excited about them making iOS games...
2126  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Persona 4 G: Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena (PS3/360/Arc) Announced (2012,ASW/Atlus) on: August 08, 2012, 09:45:34 PM
I've been playing around with some of the challenges and stuff to try to get better at the game and I've found that there are certain combos that I just cannot pull of fast enough to satisfy the challenge, no matter how many times I try.  I can do the moves individually, sure, just not quickly enough to satisfy the game.  I don't know what I'm doing wrong.  When you're doing a combo when do you start inputting the movements (particularly all those damn quarter circles...) for the next move?

I hate quarter circles...

May help or may not, but for the first issue try breaking the challenge down to smaller pieces.  If there are 6 moves to a challenge/combo, try practicing just the first 3 moves and just focus on remembering and practicing those.  Once you have those down, pick up the next 3 moves and just practice them until you learn them.  After that, piecing together the first 3 and the last 3 should be much easier and the issue of not pulling the moves off fast enough will slowly become moot for you.  It's a great strategy for games like these where combos can get fairly long.

It's not really a length of the combo issue.  There are 2 move combos that I can't get right.  Some of these things are super-finicky.  I find that if I try to input the next move too soon it doesn't register at all and nothing happens, but if I wait then it gets blocked and doesn't count as a combo.  An example would be something like Kanji's #13 challenge.

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For the second part, usually need to have the press the button sometime during the hitstop or while the move is active, but it varies depending on character and moves trying to combo together.  For quarter circles, you're going to need to buffer them early.  For instance, if you needed to do B -> QCB/63214 C, then you would need to start the QCB during the active frames (while it's moving and about to hit) of the prior move.

I don't really understand any of what you just said there...hitstop?  QCB/63214?  Active frames?  It's greek to me.

Now, just to pick on you guys, how did you guys manage to use Sabin in Final Fantasy VI ? If memory serves me right, he had a ton of moves that required these kind of motions.

Dude, I can do Bum Rushes until the cows come home.  It's not the motion itself that's the issue, it's the timing and mixing it with all this other crap.



OK, all that said I'm loving the heck out of the story mode.  I have to admit that at first I was skeptical about a fighting game having a canon story, but Atlus didn't let us down.  Once you start getting into stuff like Mitsuru's and Labrys's stories it gets really good.

Also, you have to play Kanji's "bad" route.  It's friggin hilarious.  Should have been the official one ;)
2127  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Persona 4 G: Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena (PS3/360/Arc) Announced (2012,ASW/Atlus) on: August 07, 2012, 11:42:18 PM
This game has reminded me how much I suck at fighting games.  Sure the story mode fights are easy enough, but I usually win them by just spamming the same few moves over and over.  I'm sure in actual competitive play I would be brutally destroyed.

I've been playing around with some of the challenges and stuff to try to get better at the game and I've found that there are certain combos that I just cannot pull of fast enough to satisfy the challenge, no matter how many times I try.  I can do the moves individually, sure, just not quickly enough to satisfy the game.  I don't know what I'm doing wrong.  When you're doing a combo when do you start inputting the movements (particularly all those damn quarter circles...) for the next move?

I hate quarter circles...
2128  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What are your Final Fantasy memories? on: August 07, 2012, 02:26:55 PM
This thread makes me feel old.  My Final Fantasy memories started with Final Fantasy on the NES.
2129  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: PAX Prime 2012 on: August 07, 2012, 02:25:57 PM
If you want to go you have to be on the ball.  Tickets usually go on sale around April or so, and they sold out in under a day this year.  And it's only going to get worse.  They can't make it any bigger unless they move it because the convention center is already at its maximum capacity.  Pretty crazy.  I remember when PAX just had a couple thousand people at a much smaller venue over in Bellevue.
2130  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma (BBIII) on: August 06, 2012, 07:19:06 PM
The thing about P4:A is that it actually has a significant, canon storyline using characters we're already familiar with.  That's really cool for us RPG fans, but it makes it hard to churn out Super Extreme Hyper Turbo editions, unless you're going to write a new story for each of them.  And yes, I know that Blazblue has a 'story' too, but it's hardly on the same level...

I just don't see P4:A being turned into an annual franchise kind of thing.  Sure there could be added characters and stuff, but that's better left to DLC.
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