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2356  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Megaupload seized / shut down on: January 23, 2012, 05:26:41 PM
Wow, there are a lot of things I want to comment about on this thread...

Point 1:  The music industry has traditionally followed a broken and abusive model based on a near-monopoly of distribution channels.  They massively overcharge, their only real expense is marketing (how much does it actually cost to write a song), and yeah artists get screwed.  They don't really make anything from albums and they're mostly just for promotion anyway.  The money they make comes from giving concerts.

But this has absolutely nothing to do with movies/software/anything else.  Stop talking like it does.  Seriously.  At the very least the fact that there really isn't anything equivalent to 'touring' in any of these other examples should be obvious.  The product is what it is, and 100% of the money comes from selling that product.  Also, making a game or a movie requires a massive investment compared to writing a song.  Triple-A games are costing in the tens of millions to make these days.  Somebody has to fund that.  Even if you don't like the publishers, they are serving a valuable and important role here.  And they also take on real risk, since many games flop and don't recoup their investments.

So basically, shut up about the music industry unless you are specifically talking about pirating music and nothing else.


Point 2:  Piracy does real damage to fledgeling industries.  It's easy to look at the people who are already successful and think something like, "it's OK to pirate their stuff, they're rich".  I'm not going to say I agree with that attitude, but it's something a lot of people have.  However pirates are indiscriminate, and the easiest places to see piracies effect is in areas that have been less successful.  We're gamers here, so look what piracy did to the PSP market in the US.  PSP hardware actually sold quite well early on, but nobody was buying the games (so what do you think they were doing with that hardware?).  As a result game publishers stopped releasing games for it.

I would also like to talk extensively about what rampant disrespect for copyright has done to the commercial manga industry in the US, but I don't have a lot of time at the moment and that's something I could go on and on about.  Basically it's completely screwed it over (and a lot of people are profitting off of it illegally and not giving a dime back to the creators...).


Point 3:  Stop your entitlement-driven whining.  The fact that a company didn't make their product super-convenient to buy doesn't mean you're allowed to steal it.  None of these entertainment products are in any way essential to your life.  You can do without them.
2357  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: January 22, 2012, 01:48:58 PM
Stfu, Canada is awesome.

And Victoria's just a $40 ferry ride away from Seattle, so. :P

You know, I should actually try doing that sometime...been in Seattle for almost 8 years now and I haven't made that trip.  I didn't realize it was that cheap.  It's like a 3 hour ferry ride, right?  Can you take bicycles on the Victoria Clipper?

You can take cars on the Victoria/Seattle ferry (if I am remembering the right one) so I assume you can take bikes too.

Mind you $40 Is the walk on price (each way) and it might have gone up since I last checked. :P As for bikes, I dunno. Cars definitely yes, but I haven't seen people take on just bikes on the Vancouver/Victoria ferries. The Clipper is bigger/different though.

Now I'm confused.  I thought the Clipper was the only ferry that did Seattle<->Victoria and it's supposed to be passenger-only.  Of course there are other ferries.  I think you can get one from Anacortes that you can take cars on.  But that's a not insignificant drive from Seattle.
2358  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: January 22, 2012, 03:48:49 AM
Stfu, Canada is awesome.

And Victoria's just a $40 ferry ride away from Seattle, so. :P

You know, I should actually try doing that sometime...been in Seattle for almost 8 years now and I haven't made that trip.  I didn't realize it was that cheap.  It's like a 3 hour ferry ride, right?  Can you take bicycles on the Victoria Clipper?
2359  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdoms of Amalur on: January 21, 2012, 04:23:31 AM
So I'm seeing the claim being thrown around on various forums and things that the demo was based on a four month old build and was thrown together by a third party (while the main team continued to develop the game, presumably).  That would explain the bugginess but nobody is citing an actual source for this claim.  Does anyone here know anything about it?
2360  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Megaupload seized / shut down on: January 20, 2012, 09:08:50 PM
BitTorrent is used for plenty of legit things, so it falls to law enforcement to shut down the actual USERS. Megaupload doesnt have that kind of shield, unfortunately.

Megaupload certainly can (er...well...could) be used for plenty of legitimate things.  Whether it actually was or not is a different story.

Comparing it to Bittorrent silly, though.  Bittorrent is a protocol.  An open and well-documented protocol with many clients that use it.  The actual hosting of torrents is completely separate from development of the protocol and clients that use the protocol.  No single entity controls Bittorent.  You can shutdown sites that host torrents and go after users, but that's about it.  Saying 'shut down Bittorrent' is like saying 'shut down FTP'.  It doesn't make any sense.


I think you missed my point....I was saying that Megaupload is screwed and rightly so because everything passes through their hands. When the law comes knocking, and there's an entity they can go after, they go after it. When it comes to BT services, it's then on the users.

That's completely different from what you said before...you said Bittorrent has legitimate uses as a shield so law enforcement had to go after the users.  Now you're saying that the difference is the fact that Megaupload is a central entity to target.  Those are two completely different ideas.  The latter I agree with, but that's not what you said at all!  The quote is right there...
2361  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Megaupload seized / shut down on: January 20, 2012, 07:59:35 PM
BitTorrent is used for plenty of legit things, so it falls to law enforcement to shut down the actual USERS. Megaupload doesnt have that kind of shield, unfortunately.

Megaupload certainly can (er...well...could) be used for plenty of legitimate things.  Whether it actually was or not is a different story.

Comparing it to Bittorrent silly, though.  Bittorrent is a protocol.  An open and well-documented protocol with many clients that use it.  The actual hosting of torrents is completely separate from development of the protocol and clients that use the protocol.  No single entity controls Bittorent.  You can shutdown sites that host torrents and go after users, but that's about it.  Saying 'shut down Bittorrent' is like saying 'shut down FTP'.  It doesn't make any sense.
2362  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tokitowa - Time and Eternity (third person 2D/3D RPG, imageepoch, PS3) announced on: January 20, 2012, 05:03:10 PM
Given Namco Bandai's involvement that's kind of up in the air...
2363  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Your First Ebay Purchase... on: January 19, 2012, 03:02:41 PM
Crikey, I don't even remember.  I started ebaying before Paypal was a thing.  Had to send the seller your money order in the mail and they would wait until they got it before shipping!  Uphill both ways.  In the snow.

Get off my lawn you damn kids! ;)
2364  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tokitowa - Time and Eternity (third person 2D/3D RPG, imageepoch, PS3) announced on: January 19, 2012, 02:00:45 PM
game featuring harem building and Thousand Arms style combat (assuming that's what they're going for).

Um...what?  Are we just making up stuff to criticize the game for now?  How did we get from a married couple to harem building?  There haven't even been any other female characters mentioned yet.  And they haven't said a word about how combat works, just the visual style they're going for.
2365  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tokitowa - Time and Eternity (third person 2D/3D RPG, imageepoch, PS3) announced on: January 19, 2012, 04:45:31 AM
Er...neither of those sounds better to me...

I was actually being sarcastic with the first two, but I suppose my point didn't come across. Oh well.

It occured to me after the fact that might have been the case.  Makes me feel a little better :)

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I really would like to see the third though.  We don't often see romance develop over years and years. Japan seems averse to aging characters sometimes, just look what happened with Rorona in Atelier Meruru.

I don't think that's really a fair characterization of Japan.  Sure younger characters are popular, but there are plenty of examples in anime and manga where characters get older.  You might even saw that's part of the appeal of younger characters (unless you're just a lolicon...).  It doesn't happen so much in games, perhaps, but that's more because most games don't take place over a period of years (recent Atelier games notwithstanding...).

The whole Rorona thing was kind of bizarre.  Didn't Gust do a poll (after it was too late to change anything) that showed that most people would actually have preferred to see the older Rorona?  I wouldn't jump to conclusions from one example.
2366  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tokitowa - Time and Eternity (third person 2D/3D RPG, imageepoch, PS3) announced on: January 19, 2012, 01:58:52 AM
The story turns me away immediately, but who knows, maybe they'll do something interesting with it. Like. . .He's married to another woman in every dimension and has to, er, dimension travel with a harem of women who claims to be his wives.
. . .Or something beyond "innocent young man gets molested by strong-willed girl who just so happens to be his wife."

Er...neither of those sounds better to me...
2367  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tokitowa - Time and Eternity (third person 2D/3D RPG, imageepoch, PS3) announced on: January 18, 2012, 08:37:35 PM
"You play as that prince whose marriage formed the Kingdom. You're 18 years old, and even though you're married, you still haven't had your first kiss. The prince is meant to be named by the player, although he does have a voice actor, Tsubasa Yonaga."
I'm all for light hearted JRPG's...but come on.

I don't normally bitch about these things (and I play lots of Japanese games...), but yeah...that was like the first detail they revealed about the game.  What the hell?
2368  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdoms of Amalur on: January 18, 2012, 08:34:52 PM
Man, a lot of people are noticing bugs.  This is pre-release code, but still...I hope they don't pull a Bethesda here.
2369  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Atlus Game Announcement Thread - Mark 2 on: January 18, 2012, 04:46:17 PM
I hardly think that complaining about the game being unvoiced is bitching or whining.  While I understand the reasoning behind it, it still sucks.
2370  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdoms of Amalur on: January 18, 2012, 04:41:34 PM
Played the demo (on PS3), loved it.  Which is good 'cause I already preordered the limited edition...

The only bug I ran into was a problem with the conversation system.  After a point the audio just didn't play and as a result the text skipped by faster than you could possibly read it. Though loading a new area seemed to fix things (at least for a while).  It seems a friend of mine encountered the same problem with the PC version so it's not platform-specific.

Other than that bug I found it ran quite well.
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