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2356  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Batman Arkham City on: October 13, 2011, 09:15:50 PM
I just canceled my Batman: Arkham City preorder.  I think the game looks fantastic, but I'm sick of all the BS surrounding it:  Tons of frivolous DLC, every retailer with their own special preorder bonuses, and now download codes for single player content.

You just know that a year from now (heck, maybe even sooner) they will release a new edition that actually includes all the content.  Why buy it now like a sucker?
2357  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: To the Moon [New preview trailer released!] on: October 13, 2011, 07:42:55 PM
I *might* be able to get it to Xbox Live eventually. o: Also going to try for Mac & Linux port sometimes next year.

Bring it to Linux and I will give you money!
2358  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Thread (merged) on: October 13, 2011, 07:41:54 PM
I loved this game, but I'm not sold on the DLC...
2359  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 not coming to US and Europe, Sega blames you on: October 13, 2011, 07:38:46 PM
And yeah, it is Sega's fault for having zero marketing.  Nobody is expecting what Skyrim or (insert FPS of choice) here would receive.  But there was NOTHING for VC2.  At least VC1 had a playable demo on PSN.

Uh. VC2 had a demo too.
2360  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception on: October 12, 2011, 10:02:31 PM
If you can't tell if it's a spoiler until after it happens, is it actually a spoiler?
2361  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 not coming to US and Europe, Sega blames you on: October 12, 2011, 06:20:38 PM
Wow, where to I even begin dissecting this...

The reason why nobody out here buys PSP games is because the PSP is already on its way out the door much like how the DS has already left the building. The primary US market is already focused on the 3DS and the Vita and the retail shelves reflect this.

OK, so first of all we were talking about VC2 which came out well over a year ago.  How are the 3DS and Vita relevant?  PSP games have never sold well here, though it has become worse in recent years.

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Unfortunately this coincides with the fact that the PSP got its second wind in Japan; which mostly stems from the fact that most third party developers are dragging their heels trying to cram as many releases as they can on the old platforms since they can put off having to relearn how the new platform works.

Utter bullshit mixed with off-topic ranting.  The only thing close to a fact in the above is that the PSP had a slow launch in Japan, but this 'second wind' you refer to is not a recent or isolated thing.  The system has been big there for a while now.  And plenty of developers (in both the east and west) are slow to embrace new hardware not because they are stupid or lazy but because it's much easier to sell games on a platform that has a large install base.

But how is this even relevant?  You are talking about a game that was released in Japan in January of 2010, so the 3DS and Vita are not part of the equation.  Since the first game was on the PS3 do you really think they switched platforms in order to "put off having to relearn how the new platform"?  Seriously?

They switched to the PSP because there have been a ton of PSPs sold in Japan.  It was the #1 selling system of 2010.

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The real problem with all this is the fact that the PSP wasn't really a success in any significant measure until this second wind hit,

When did this 'second wind' of yours hit, anyway?  Seems more like a steady growth to me.  Yes Monster Hunter has been a huge influence, but even that serious didn't gain its following overnight.

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and rather than share this new found interest with markets outside of Japan they leave us with a mold covered PSP,

To reiterate what started this conversation:  Nobody buys PSP games here.  That's not the fault of the developers or publishers.  What do you want them to do?

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a languishing DS, and an ignored 3DS.

This isn't a localization issue.  The DS is an old system who's successor has already launched.  There aren't many big games on the horizon for it anywhere.  First you complain about Japanese developers not moving to new hardware, and now you're complaining about them moving on from old hardware...

And the 3DS doesn't have much of a lineup in Japan either yet.  Its lack of games here is hardly the result of 'ingoring' it.  But there were a lot of games shown for it at TGS so they're coming.  We're in a transition period.  It's always a little awkward.  But it's hardly doom and gloom looking forward.

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And of course to JRPG gamers outside of Japan who's genre of choice is by and large locked to said handhelds are basically screwed at this point since all the wells have mostly run dry.

We got some great games this year.  Radiant Historia and Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky for example.  We are missing out on a number of PSP games because, again, nobody here buys PSP games.  This is a business, not a charity.  Over the course of this rant you have come up with several convoluted excuses to place the blame anywhere but on the American consumer, but it just doesn't hold water.  PSP games have never sold well here, and as the system has gotten old that certainly hasn't improved.  Meanwhile in Japan it's more ubiquitous than the PS2 was in its day.  Japanese developers aren't going to ignore it, but they can't localize the games if people don't buy them.  It's an unfortunate situation, but you're ranting about the wrong thing.

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Hell even the consoles can't really throw us a bone since even the very occasional console release is being ignored.

Other than Nintendo's antics with Xenoblade, Last Story, etc (which are getting European releases, at least) what major console releases have been ignored?  The track record there has actually been really good.

But hey, who needs facts.
2362  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 not coming to US and Europe, Sega blames you on: October 12, 2011, 05:00:51 PM
Are you talking about VC1 or VC2?  I remember seeing some advertising for VC2, but there is literally nothing that I can recall for VC1.  I only knew the game existed at all because of previews and the like (i.e., third parties who took independent initiative to find games to talk about, rather than being paid to do so).


I'm the opposite, I barely saw nothing [actually] for neither title.  And while VC one is the talk of town, helping its success, no one talks about the 2nd titles. 

I was talking specifically about advertising, not word of mouth stuff.  Yes the first game gets talked about more, but I don't remember it having any advertising at all.  And for that matter, nobody was talking about it prior to its release either.  The buzz for the game only built up slowly after the handful of people who actually did buy it at launch (I was one of those people, actually) kept talking about how great it was.  But initial sales were terrible.

I did actually see some advertising for VC2, but that's still not enough to overcome the fact that nobody seems to buy PSP games.  Plus the game was not as well-received critcally (and by fans) thanks to the poor story aspects we've already talked about.
2363  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 not coming to US and Europe, Sega blames you on: October 12, 2011, 03:22:42 PM
Are you talking about VC1 or VC2?  I remember seeing some advertising for VC2, but there is literally nothing that I can recall for VC1.  I only knew the game existed at all because of previews and the like (i.e., third parties who took independent initiative to find games to talk about, rather than being paid to do so).
2364  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 not coming to US and Europe, Sega blames you on: October 12, 2011, 04:03:40 AM
Yeah, I'm actually glad that Sega came out and made this official.  Makes the decision to import that much easier.  Usually companies just leave you hanging in uncertainty...

It's a weird situation.  The first game didn't do great in Japan and actually sold much better in the US, though not at first.  It had a really bad start (since Sega did absolutely nothing to advertise it) but gained enough positive buzz that it eventually sold pretty well (though not until after the price had dropped).  However by that point the decision to move the franchise to the PSP had likely already been made, and given the information available at the time I honestly don't think it was nearly as bad a decision as a lot of people make it out to be.  PSP games are cheaper to make, the PSP is absolutely huge in Japan, and it didn't initially look like there was a big market for the game overseas.

So then came VC2 which was a budget game in a lot of respects.  The gameplay was still rock solid but the story and presentation suffered.  Sega decided to bring it over thanks to all the positive attention the first game got, but in the end it sold like shit here because it's a PSP game and nobody seems to buy PSP games anymore (well, they never bought them much at all...).

From what I have read and played of the demo, VC3 looks like a big improvement over VC2.  It is a return to form in a lot of ways, but with refinements to the gameplay.  Even if you were put off by the presentation in VC2 you should still think about giving VC3 a shot (via importing, obviously...).

By the way, VC3 is getting a re-release with some extra content and 'budget' (for Japan, anyway...) pricing November 23.  If you were thinking about importing then you should probably wait for that version.
2365  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: New iPhone today, looks great on: October 11, 2011, 06:46:41 PM
Those keyboards are not nearly as full-featured as the Eee Pad's dock (which has a trackpad, extra ports, a supplemental battery, etc), but that's not really the point.  My point was that my tablet really isn't very different from a laptop.  Asking what it's good for is like asking what is a laptop good for...except this 'laptop' of mine has a 16 hour battery life and the option to just use the screen part when you want.  What is there to dislike about that?  It's all I take with me when I travel these days.

I'm not even sure what you mean by the 'Laptop Tablet' market.  Certainly there have been attempts at tablet PCs before, but they were huge, clunky, expensive, and had terrible battery life.  It shouldn't really come as a surprise to anyone that they tanked.  The current generation is quite different.
2366  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: New iPhone today, looks great on: October 11, 2011, 03:15:56 PM
My tablet PC has a keyboard.  I use it pretty much just like a laptop, except I can pop the top off, lean back, and watch a movie on it or read a book or something.
2367  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Persona 4 anime? on: October 11, 2011, 02:28:17 AM
I'm not too crazy on the date-by-date thing and face "face cut in"... feels too much like a tacked-on throw-back.

Personally I loved those little touches.  Seems like perfectly harmless fanservice (in the broader sense of the term).
2368  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: The Binding of Isaac on: October 10, 2011, 08:40:27 PM
Rogue-likes are RPGs.

I agree.  I'm surprised this is even in dispute.

Now, not having actually played the game in question I don't know how much it follows the typical roguelike conventions.
2369  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Board Games! on: October 10, 2011, 03:17:02 PM
None of these are two player, sorry, but here are some of my favorites:

Settlers of Catan.  Yeah, it's practically mainstream by now but still worth mentioning.  It's well-known for a reason: it's a seriously good game.

Carcassonne.  Tile-based crazy city-building game.  Very simple to play but with a lot of depth.  Actually I think you can play this with two players, but it's better with more.

Dominion.  A neat card-based (non-collectable) game that's actually several games in one.  Sure the objective is always the same but you chose a subset of the cards to use in any given game and the choice can change the winning strategy significantly.
2370  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Holiday games, something about this years crop on: October 10, 2011, 03:06:44 PM
Yeah, the difficulty in Oblivion was really broken.  If you didn't level up in exactly the right way (or just increase your skills but never level up at all like I know some people did...) then the game could become ridiculously difficult, making the slider practically a necessity.
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