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2371  The Rest / General Discussions / Assassin's Creed III's creative director on Japanese games on: August 17, 2012, 01:53:27 PM
So there's this lengthy interview with Alex Hutchinson, the creative director of Assassin's Creed III.  It's mostly the usual bullshit, but this particular exchange really stands out:

Why do Nintendo get it right? It releases a new edition of the same franchise every year and no one bats an eyelid. Why?

You want my real answer? I think there's a subtle racism in the business, especially on the journalists' side, where Japanese developers are forgiven for doing what they do. I think it's condescending to do this.


Yeah. Just think about how many Japanese games are released where their stories are literally gibberish. Literally gibberish. There's no way you could write it with a straight face, and the journalists say 'oh it is brilliant'.

Then Gears of War comes out and apparently it's the worst written narrative in a game ever. I'll take Gears of War over Bayonetta any time.

It's patronising to say, "oh those Japanese stories, they don't really mean what they're doing".

I mean...wow...

Yes, there are plenty of Japanese games with bad stories (but they do get called out on it...), however he seems to confuse being whimsical with being gibberish.  With a dash of racism for good measure.  I wonder how he feels about Lewis Carroll.
2372  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: FINALLY!! on: August 15, 2012, 12:30:14 PM
Totally agree with the price point. The fact that it does not even include a memory card jacks up the price even more. Until a good affordable bundle comes out, I am going nowhere near it. I really want P4 The Golden to :(

Several bundles have already been announced, which include a game and a memory card (OK, it's the practically useless 4 gig card...but it's a start) for the same price the system alone is selling for now.  In addition to the Assassin's Creed one that was announced back at E3 there are also going to be LittleBigPlanet and Call of Duty bundles.  I don't have much interest in Assassin's Creed or Call of Duty, but LittleBigPlanet Vita looks pretty sweet (and it's also coming out before the other two).

I'd also highly recommend FF Tactics-- although the translation and new content in the PSP version does make that one a little better.

The Vita plays PSP games (and it does so right now, no need to wait), so why would anyone pick the PS1 version in this case?  Just get the PSP one.
2373  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: August 15, 2012, 12:20:42 PM
just finshed labrys story wich only has 1 battle but is really long and got yu's true ending. theres no way a p4a could work. theres no more reason for persona users to fight each other. also mysterious entity admits to not having a persona. also the start of mitsu's story is weird. why does THAT still exist?

No way it could work?  Seriously?  I can imagine half a dozen ways it could work off the top of my head.  Use some imagination.

P4A spoilers:
The mysterious entity is still loose and has explicitly stated its goal is to turn personas back into shadows by causing despair in their users (for instance by forcing friends to fight each other).  Labrys was a useful tool for that purpose but hardly the only method.  P4A was Labrys's story which is largely concluded (though I'm sure the character will return).

Oh, and the P4 investigation team is not only back together but they've learned about using personas outside of the TV world (something they didn't even know was possible before) and are actively pursuing the mysterious entity.  I doubt a P4A sequel will take place in the TV world again, but now that the P4 cast knows a bit more about personas there are other methods.  I could even imagine them getting their hands on some evokers, which would be an interesting twist.

So what would the mysterious entity do to make them fight again?  There are lots of possibilities.  If simple illusions don't work there's always threats (he threatens to kill somebody they care about if they don't fight, that sort of thing) or straight-out manipulation (controlling somebody like he did with Labrys at the end).  Whatever the case the mysterious entity is clearly not done screwing around with them.

I do agree that a sequel might have more of a P3 feel than P4.  Like I said I don't think it's going to be in the TV world again.

With regards to Monsoon's comment, I do understand that's how Arcsys generally does things but given that P4A has a canon storyline in an existing universe it's rather difficult to just toss in additional characters or something without a full-blown sequel.  Either that or they have to rewrite the P4A story.  I mean if there are additional characters then what were they doing during all of that?
2374  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: FINALLY!! on: August 15, 2012, 02:44:34 AM
Keep in mind that they said they would be rolling out titles gradually.  They won't all work on the Vita off the bat.  So if you really want to play them on your Vita you might want to wait and see what actually plays on the Vita.  Sad, I know, but this is Sony we're talking about...

Of course if you had a PSP you'd be fine ;)

I need to buy a Vita...I already have on Vita game on my shelf and another preordered.  Yes I buy games before systems...
2375  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Today's News on: August 15, 2012, 01:44:19 AM
Am I the only one who finds Tosh to be completely unfunny, rape jokes or not...

Edit: OK, some new too

Left the URL 'cause it pretty much says it all.
2376  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: August 14, 2012, 05:45:19 PM
In Japan P4A is the best selling fighting game this generation.  It's also dominating in arcades.  There is going to be a P4A-2.

That has nothing do with P5, though.  Certainly P5 is in development but it's a seperate project.  And I don't know why you think Atlus would be making a grand finale to the series since its their cash cow.
2377  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: August 14, 2012, 12:53:04 PM
the problem with what some of you are suggesting is that the ending of P4 arena is clearly setting up a sequel. though i dont think any P4 characters will be around for that except naoto unless some join mitsuru's anti shadow task force.

Obviously it's setting up a sequel...a sequel to P4A.  I mean heck, this is Arcsys we're talking about.  When have they ever released only a single iteration of one of their fighting games?  There's going to be a P4A-2 or something.

I also think it's crazy to assume that P5 will continue a storyline set up in a spin-off fighting game, canon or not
2378  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: August 14, 2012, 02:43:21 AM
While it's entirely possible some of the P3 crew will appear in P5 as NPCs I very much doubt they're going to be the main characters.  But that's just what my gut tells me, how should I know (how should any of us know...).
2379  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: August 12, 2012, 03:42:17 AM
I have a rubber ear tip from my in-ear headphones stuck in my ear and I can't get it out...

Yay, finally got it out.  It was stuck in there for like two hours...
2380  Media / General Games / Re: Persona 4 G: Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena (PS3/360/Arc) Announced (2012,ASW/Atlus) on: August 11, 2012, 02:14:07 PM
OK, about the glasses thing, it's not a plot hole at all!  Persona 4 spoilers:

The glasses are necessary in Persona 4 to see through the fog.  You find out at the end that the fog is being made by the final boss thing (I can't remember its name right now...) and you defeat it.  With that thing gone there shouldn't be any more fog, so why would they need glasses?
2381  Media / General Games / Re: Persona 4 G: Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena (PS3/360/Arc) Announced (2012,ASW/Atlus) on: August 10, 2012, 05:55:29 PM
Well I'm going to have to disagree with you, Beaker.  The story does not blow.  It's quite good, in fact.  I think they did a remarkable job of incorporating all this different characters and making them fight each other.  The only one who feels a little forced is Elizabeth, but then she's just kind of wandering around doing her own thing.

Is it repetitive?  Sure, a bit.  You're seeing the same events from different perspectives, so it's only natural.  Every story has something to add, though, especially when you start getting into the P3 characters.  And as mentioned, Elizabeth is really just doing her own thing.  Her story is totally unique.

Labrys's story may have been a bit predictable (though I wonder how much of that is just because of the hints dropped in the other stories), but the writing really shines.  Good writing can make even the mundane interesting, but in this case they're starting with something interesting and making it fantastic.  I do wish there were more actual fights in her story, though.

Really, the worst are the starting four characters.  Well, they're not bad the first time but they really are pretty much the same.  I guess Yu at least has the velvet room scenes to mix things up, but the other three...Yukiko's was especially weak, which disappointed me because I really liked Yukiko in P4.  But when you start getting into the P3 characters and even the rest of the P4 cast then I think there are plenty of original moments.  They do all sort of end the same, but that kind of has to happen for the idea of having a consisten canon to make sense.  I agree the ending was a disappointment...definitely sequel-baiting.
2382  Media / General Games / Re: Persona 4 G: Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena (PS3/360/Arc) Announced (2012,ASW/Atlus) on: August 10, 2012, 02:40:47 AM
OK, having completed a significant fraction of the stories, including what I think are all the main characters, I can safely conclude that they really did decide to leave things wide open for a sequel.  I'm kind of bummed by the lack of resolution.  I guess Arcsys really did want to annualize this series.  On the other hand, since the game sold quite well I think a sequel is pretty much guaranteed now.
2383  Media / General Games / Re: The Last Guardian on: August 10, 2012, 02:31:36 AM
Report: The Last Guardian Trademark ‘Abandoned’


I don't get it...did you completely ignore the last 10 posts?
2384  Media / General Games / Re: Persona 4 G: Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena (PS3/360/Arc) Announced (2012,ASW/Atlus) on: August 09, 2012, 02:54:43 PM
I haven't done Elizabeth's story yet so it's possible it might wrap things up, but after finishing a few of the character's stories completely, post cliffhanger (you have to play through Labrys's story before you can actually finish the others), it really seems like they're leaving things wide open for a sequel...
2385  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdoms of Amalur on: August 09, 2012, 12:51:26 PM
I can't say that I'm excited about them making iOS games...
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