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1  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed on: April 18, 2014, 03:33:44 PM
Somewhere, on some site, people still complain that it's not Vesperia PS3.
2  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed on: April 15, 2014, 05:35:54 PM
Well, since we're talking about things that were taken down, I'm not sure if this was ever mentioned in the thread.  If it was, apologies.

This was leaked by the same people who leaked the original Symphonia CE:
https://twitter.com/flamfas/status/448851599260020736

We're, if the leak is correct, getting the Ludger Ichiban Kuji figure this time.
If you're interested, here he is:
http://myfigurecollection.net/item/194369
3  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Hyperdimension Neptunia U is Neptunia meets Senran Kagura on: April 15, 2014, 01:08:54 PM
Well, I was really trying to refer to the story and characters with the first part of my post, which I feel were by far the strongest in the original - not that the story is particularly good in any of the games.  I kind of jumped over to the battle system subject in the second part.  Hence my opinion of the game's story and characters may be clouded by my dislike of other aspects of the game.

(It made sense to me!)
4  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Gust making a spiritual successor to Ar Tonelico: Ar no Surge on: April 15, 2014, 01:05:11 PM
Yeah, E&L's localization was filled with more frequent, minor errors rather than anything game-breaking. Lots of typos, you're/your and whatnot, but none of that really detracts from the experience in a way that is terribly detrimental and more of an annoyance than anything.

But in a game like this, where consistency is important, that's where I'd be more worried.  There was an entire conversation in E&L where "Slag" turned into "Slug."  It felt like there was a bunch of people translating one game and they didn't have a lot of communication with each other. I'd say it lacked something of a cohesiveness sometimes?  And in these games, that's almost game-breaking.
5  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Gust making a spiritual successor to Ar Tonelico: Ar no Surge on: April 15, 2014, 04:29:10 AM
I wouldn't be too sure, the Escha and Logy localization wasn't particularly good.
6  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed on: April 14, 2014, 11:49:34 PM
Well...I at least hope I can get it from the Bamco Online store.
7  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Hyperdimension Neptunia U is Neptunia meets Senran Kagura on: April 14, 2014, 09:57:15 PM
I liked the first best as well.  It feels the least forced and more focused.  But, as I've ranted before, I also tend to dislike the battle system used in 2 and V, so that is probably clouding my judgement.
8  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Over My Dead Body 2: Electric Bugaloo on: April 14, 2014, 09:36:56 PM
Wow, this is a surprise.  I wasn't particularly expecting a localization here.

Edit: RE: baby-making games:  They've been off and on in terms of popularity, really, I wouldn't quite say FE:A kick-started it since they were on the rise again beforehand with games like Agarest.  I mean, we had Phantasy Star III doing it in 1991! 

I, for one, welcome this new trend.
9  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed on: April 10, 2014, 05:00:22 AM
EDIT: Apparently she fights with "pages".... paper cuts sure are a nasty wound. 

I don't know, I've had some pretty brutal paper cuts.

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Lailah is an adult woman who provides advice as an instructor.

So, she's like... 19? :P

Damnit video games, stop making me feel so old.
10  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days on: April 06, 2014, 08:17:13 PM
Having to read supplemental material outside and unrelated to the game to get the most out of it is silly, no matter the series.

It depends on the series and it's audience. You can develop an audience for that kind of content, and those who don't like it have the choice of ignore it if they are comfortable doing that.

I disagree, a series can be harmed quite a bit by not having information readily available in-game, as FFXIII demonstrates. I'd say if the prologue side-story book had been added as scenes in-game, more than a few complaints about the characters, especially the complaints about Lightning having no personality and Vanille being annoying, would have been rendered null.  XIII is, if anything, one of the biggest modern offenders showing why this method of storytelling is not viable in all situations.  I guess you could pull out things like Mass Effect 3 suddenly having some super powerful ridiculous Cyborg dude from their books who for some reason hates and stalks Shepard as well.

There's a difference between supplemental material and story-based material necessary for understanding the world the game takes place in. Supplemental material is fine if the plot of the game and most subplots stand alone without it, but I cannot support outside material being necessary to fully appreciate or understand a game's world and story.   I would say the sole exceptions are games where the world is intentionally vague and events are up for interpretation.

Edit: And, to elaborate, I'd say a good example of properly used supplemental material is FFX's Eternal Calm movie.  I didn't get to see it until a few years after X was released, but before X-2, and it came on a demo disk in OPM (or one of those older magazines).  You didn't need to see that movie to understand why Yuna and Rikku were doing what they were doing, it simply elaborated on currently known storyline or storyline that was soon to be released.  In FFXIII, without the supplemental material, you have no idea why Lightning's character is the way she is.

See the difference?
11  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days on: April 06, 2014, 07:12:50 PM
I don't think he's necessarily wrong, though.  XIII's lore is quite interesting and certainly very complex.  It's just not used well in the games and it's all in the side material, which in itself is a trend worth criticizing, I think.  Having to read supplemental material outside and unrelated to the game to get the most out of it is silly, no matter the series.  There's a line between being self-contained with just extra material that explains more of events or background (FFVII is a good example) and reliance on explaining the main plot through outside material (XIII, Xenogears, Danganronpa, arguably Chrono Cross, so on).

That being said, and I said it earlier in the thread, I think LR would have been a better game had it not been directly connected to the original XIII and XIII-2.  It cheapens the world the game takes place in, because I found it genuinely interesting. The connection to the previous games felt tacked on in comparison.

XI is probably the only game in the series that has more complex worldbuilding than XIII.  But XI also has had more than 10 years of updates and expansions to build, so it's not a particularly fair comparison.
12  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc on: April 06, 2014, 04:45:08 PM
I cannot fathom why you'd try to defend a few of the holes in this story. It's one of those games you just need to take in stride and for fun and not overthink, because that's when it starts falling apart. It's not meant to be realistic.

Another silly, minor example would be:
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Why Junko threatens them with the air purifier turning off when there's a large, healthy garden.


Edit:

Also, since that one particular scene was mentioned, and this isn't really a plothole, just something that bugged me. . .
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Remember how, after he gets out, Makoto was told he smells horrible?  The next case started up before he
could take a shower, so there was no real time for him to even if you consider the type of storytelling where a game
may omit certain mundane events, like going to the restroom. 

That entire time he was running around dirty and smelly and I couldn't take anything he said seriously.
13  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days on: April 05, 2014, 04:18:00 PM
So after browsing the list of BatmanLightning Returns's costumes on the FFWikia, I see that most of them are variants of the same 6 or 7 initially announced. Now granted, variation of even that amount is an amazing feat for costume options, however, as variations, most do not address the issues I had with said original 6 or 7 (or somehow make them uglier than before).

It's a tad disappointing.

True.

Keep in mind, too, that you can also customize their colors in-game. Well, for most of the costumes, not all; for some of the ugliest ones you can't.  And, of course, said ugly one is one of the best in the game.
14  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Hyperdimension Neptunia PP is getting localized on: April 04, 2014, 04:45:00 PM
Are the rest DLC?
15  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The official waifu thread on: April 04, 2014, 04:57:12 AM
Nah, you just want a complete package. Nothing wrong with considering all aspects (including flowing visors). The people who go straight for the murderous yanderes are the crazy ones :D

Then I will continue to revel in my craziness.
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