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856  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mass Effect 3 (expect ME1&2 spoilers) on: March 12, 2012, 10:17:15 PM
I just did that part now.  You basically have to knock some sense into the Quarians with Paragon or Renegade choices.
 Legion dies to make the Geth "sentient," but they are at peace with the Quarians and the Quarians return to their homeworld.
Truly, it's the best possible ending unless you feel sentient Geth (like Legion) are dangerous.

Honestly, though, the Admirals really made themselves look like idiots.  I wouldn't trust them to lead.
857  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of Graces F on: March 12, 2012, 06:17:58 PM
Me three! Yay for Prime free release-day shipping.

Now if only there was more time in a day; I've no idea how to balance it between ME3 and this.  I still wanted to 100% Amalur, too.
858  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The Merged Final Fantasy XIII-2 Thread on: March 12, 2012, 02:31:57 PM
The Future is Hope was definitely fun, and it would be interesting to see the results of what happened during that timeline, but I like Serah's ending after you solo defeat Caius because

it's the only one where Yeul is happy.

Though, I admit the Oerba/Vanille one was a bit strange.  It did not feel very much like an "ending."  Unless they
were actually stuck 500 years in the past?
859  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mass Effect 3 (expect ME1&2 spoilers) on: March 12, 2012, 01:41:29 PM
This is ridiculous. If I quit writing for RPGFan then go on record talking shit about gamers, should that negatively impact the site (or any site) I used to work at? No. That's fucking ridiculous.

Whether we like it or not, the reality is: past work experience does define you to some extent.  You see it in politics all the time. In this case, she was speaking out in defense for Bioware, so it makes some sense that hostility be directed towards the company for it.

Actually, though, the point of that was more showing the logic some people use, not that I necessarily follow that train of thought. I dislike the woman's comments because I thought she was rude and condescending. I dislike Bioware PR for some of the absolute dick things they do on BSN, which is, as I said, shutting down even objective negative criticism or discussions.  The mods over there throw around the terms "trolling" and "spam" far too often.

Either way, I somehow doubt we'll ever agree with each other on the matter, so I'll say we should agree to disagree.  I feel like we're simply shitting up the thread at this point.
860  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mass Effect 3 (expect ME1&2 spoilers) on: March 11, 2012, 07:52:25 PM

Former. FORMER BioWare designer. She doesn't currently work for BioWare and even then saying BioWare should 'reign in' their employees is a ridiculous request and borders on the same self-centered assumptions the fanbase made during the Hepler incident.

Even disregarding that most gamers are retarded and just want a game that panders to their own tastes rather than a game that plays well. If history has shown is anything it's that by and large the internet is a bunch of idiots who have no place saying how a game should be designed or balanced.

The Hepler bit was out of control and, I'll agree, was mostly entirely unwarranted.  People take quotes from out out of context and, certainly, her writing doesn't seem any better or worse than the other writers in DA; I've not played TOR so I can't comment on that.  I feel the main difference here is that she wasn't insulting fans or saying their opinions aren't taken into consideration.

Whether or not the woman is a current Bioware employee isn't really the point; it's more what her words represent that have caused such dissatisfaction.

And in contrast to your last point, I offer you Bethesda.  Bethesda fans can make some absolutely brilliant mods out that that improve the game in almost every way.  Oblivion is a given, but Morrowind even has that entire Tamriel Rebuilt, which adds (and is still adding) more landmass than was on Vvardenfell in the first place.  Certainly, there are many people who make demands not knowing what they're talking about, but there are also those who can, and do make changes for the better.  I'm extremely excited to see what Skyrim modders add within the next few years.

On an unrelated note -
I finished the Tuchanka and second Citadel Missions.  I was looking through the artbook (Art of the Mass Effect Universe)
again now that I've experienced ME3, and I was reading about their redesign of the planet.  For me, Bioware got their
point through, I quote:
"We wanted to evoke a feeling that the Krogan were worth saving, and that they once created things of beauty."
That ruined city section really did its job.  That and Eve being a great character have really made me more empathetic to the
Krogan, who I have to admit I previously disliked.

The designs of Sur'Kesh were very pretty, too bad you're basically in hallways the entire time.

And yes, Thane was pretty much dismissed. I feel like it was a waste. He did save the Salarian councilor though, so it
wasn't like he was worthless.
861  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mass Effect 3 (expect ME1&2 spoilers) on: March 11, 2012, 06:21:57 PM
I agree to an extent, but the way this was overblown (as it is with all gamer entitlement issues) fuels my distaste for gamers in general.

along with how they've chosen to deal with PR more recently
To what are you referring?

It has nothing to do with gamer entitlement issues - they cut content from the game, lied about it, and then put a price tag on it.  How is that being "entitled?"  That's EA or Bioware, whoever made the decision, being money hungry at the expense of their customers.  People complained about Kasumi too, it's simply been amplified more recently.

The newest of the PR disasters was about fan feedback.  You'd think that Bioware would encourage fan feedback, instead, the woman (who also isn't a producer) said flat out they don't want it, because fans are not producers.  Therefore, they have no say in how the game should be made.  This makes no sense; are fans not the ones who buy the games?  If, say, the majority of fans dislike a certain decision (Mako being an example), wouldn't it be beneficial to make changes to it?  Feedback should be accepted, both positive and negative.  Even constructive, negative feedback is being shut down.
Why disregard player opinion entirely?  Or, if you do - for the love of God, don't say it to their faces.

While it's true that the words of one woman do not represent the thoughts of the company, they need to reign in comments like this.  It alienates their base.
862  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mass Effect 3 (expect ME1&2 spoilers) on: March 11, 2012, 05:50:57 PM
Ah, but the difference here is that they blatantly lied to their customers.  Before, they were honest money grubbers.  Now, they have become lying money grubbers.

There's a lot of irrational hatred of Bioware, but this is straight up a legitimate complaint.  Bioware was courteous enough to at least make Zaeed free day one DLC for gamers who bought the game new rather than used.  Charging for the day one DLC on this game honestly and truthfully is fucked up and has done nothing but garner ill press for themselves.  Was the $10 day one DLC worth the extra negative attention and potential harm to the brand?  Their future sales figures will be the judge.

Agreed, criticizing their practices doesn't make you a Bioware hater, it makes you a legitimately and rightfully disgruntled consumer.  It, along with how they've chosen to deal with PR more recently, has soured my opinion of them considerably.
863  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The Merged Final Fantasy XIII-2 Thread on: March 09, 2012, 12:45:06 PM
I think at first a lot of the backlash came from people who haven't actually beaten it and either saw movies or saw it secondhand.

You'll remember, people were complaining about Serah's death immediately after the title was released in Japan, but it's
not just randomly thrown out at you. The game flat out states it on multiple occasions and you come to accept it's a
very real possibility.  In fact, it's one of the major themes with Yeul, and how Serah is going to share her fate.

As for the Chaos pouring out, that is pretty much the hook for the conflict in XIII-3.  As you said, XIII-2 is like the
 book in the middle of a series.  And, as I said in an earlier post, the story is finished.  Time traveling is no longer
possible, they're stuck in 500AF. This pretty much stops the game from progressing as normal.  It's a different
conflict entirely.

That said, I am annoyed that they left so many obvious loose ends and subplots for DLC.
864  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mass Effect 3 (expect ME1&2 spoilers) on: March 09, 2012, 12:31:54 PM

I'm impressed that they found a way to do it elegantly, not just "here Shepard, look at my face,"
But there were plenty of great Tali designs in the artbook.  Ones that were still human "enough," but also exotic
to make her look more alien than a simple photoshop.
865  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mass Effect 3 (expect ME1&2 spoilers) on: March 09, 2012, 12:21:24 PM
Said picture's been circulating around questionable sources (mostly 4chan's /v/ board, which has a huge vendetta against Bioware ever since DA2, not that I'm blaming them). I'd wait before confirming the veracity of something like that.

Have you actually seen it? Movies have been posted on Youtube by multiple sources, it's not just a rumor.

You can see how lazily photoshopped it is when you pause it; one of her fingers is just literally painted over.
866  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mass Effect 3 (expect ME1&2 spoilers) on: March 07, 2012, 10:22:55 PM
Does Tali show her face?

Looks like you missed the huge shitstorm about this last night.
With as few spoilers as possible:
Yes, she shows her face in a picture, though not directly in-model.  However, one 4channer discovered that the picture
they used was actually a very slightly photoshopped version of a stock photo of a human woman.  And I mean -very- slightly
modified, simply editing out two fingers, adding lens flare, and changing the color.
867  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Imageepoch Announcing New Title Next Week on: March 06, 2012, 04:04:45 PM
"Sol Trigger"

Mixing Spanish with English is so clever.

But Sol is Latin!

Er, anyway, I don't think this is going to get a localization, given NISA has the Imageepoch agreement, and they've pretty much ignored all of Imageepoch's recent PSP titles. BRS was announced, but we've gotten no information on it in around a year now.  So English-only gamers are probably screwed here.

I'll wait for more information for further judgement.  The "Freedom fighters" description can be good (TO: LuCT comes to mind) or terrible.
868  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The Merged Final Fantasy XIII-2 Thread on: March 03, 2012, 02:31:59 PM
Agreed, Plains of Eternity just hits all of the right "addicting" notes for me.
869  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Labyrinth Tower Legacista on: March 03, 2012, 02:30:06 PM
This is a NIS-developed game on PS3.

I can almost guarantee we'll get it. The only reason they haven't been releasing their PSP titles is because of the market in the west and piracy.
870  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The Merged Final Fantasy XIII-2 Thread on: March 03, 2012, 02:08:47 PM
The Ruined Hometown Lyrics were a bit too much for me, too.  I like the song, but that one line Dice mentioned does make me cringe a bit.

However, Yeul's Theme and the vocalized Noel's Themes are very pleasant.  Yeul's lays on the sap without being corny, except one or two of the lines comes out too fast or too stilted given English's longer sentences that the writer didn't seem to take into account or his lack of knowledge of fluid English music in general.  I'm also fond of Plains of Eternity, despite its cheezy lyrics.  I think it's because it's so upbeat that I can accept it as pop-y and sappy more easily than the serious songs, much like how the Engrish is more tolerable in Persona.
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