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1  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Conception II on: April 16, 2014, 04:14:42 PM
Dice, for the record, the lack of controversy I speak of regarding Southpark is that amongst gamers themselves where The Stick of Truth is concerned.  - In general hardly anybody in the gaming world, mainstream review press included, seemed to have any problem with the content in that game. I know the mainstream zeitgeist has made controversy where South Park is concerned from the very start, but gamers could seem to care less. 

However, in comparison, Conception 2 has a pretty long thread going at virtually every major gaming discussion board out there right now debating its very nature.  I'm just pointing out how its funny these big debates pop up everytime when it happens that an anime-styled game dares to be a little saucy- but unquestioningly has far tamer material overall than South Park. 

Embryon, you have every right to your review and opinion that it isn't a fun game.  I value THIS website very much for its content and opinions, which are always very well stated.  I enjoy many types of games in all genres, styles, and tone too.  RPG and overwise.  Just remember, fun is a subjective thing.  Games like Conception 2 exist because some of us do like them and buy them, and I'm one of them :)

I appreciate this response very much. I love being part of RPGFan because I think we have an intelligent community that can have reasonable discussions.
2  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Conception II on: April 16, 2014, 03:38:19 PM

Also kinda find it very pot and kettle how many people here railing on Conception II with one fist but used the other to handwave pretty much all of Stick of Truth; which anything South Park is pretty much as juvenile, low-as-you-can-go, bottom of the barrel not-funny humor. I'll point it out again. SoT utilized ABORTION and ANAL RAPE (possibly of a minor; have no desire to research this particular topic but considering how many characters in the SP universe are children I think the odds are good enough to assume this until someone corrects me) multiple times for 'comedy'. Guess what it got? Editor's Choice. And yet Conception II is being ragged because of minor to moderate innuendo? *brain blown*


Real glad you brought up South Park- I was contemplating it in my defense of Conception (and games like it) but afraid I'd get shot down brutally becuase it isn't really a JRPG, anime, or tonally similar.  Conception 2 gives a lot of corny innuendo, a horny (but harmless) old man, some jiggle, and an accidental grope or two.  Southpark did indeed have your 4th grade character being sodomized on screen, graphic violence as well as straight up actual sex acts- ON SCREEN.  Granted, nothing in South Park was made to titilate, or be anything remotely serious- its all done in the name of outrageous/gross out humor.  But still- no outcry/controversy at all surrounded this. 

But bring up some light harem anime inspired game and here comes all the white knights. 

Look, I'm not saying Conception 2 is anything near GOTY material- but its just the kind of visual Novel/jrpg hybrid with attractive girls and bawdy boob humor I like to play once in a while.  I know the ladies have quite a few options geared towards them these days too, especially in the visual novel/dating sim world, which is fine.  People can debate the humor itself which will always be subjective, but it just rankles me to no end how a certain element out there just wants to outright drive these games off the shelves in the interest of having everything be just like Dark Souls or whatever other "hardcore" experience is popular at the moment.  Having variety is what makes life interesting. 

For what it's worth, I dislike Dark Souls and love games like Atelier, Trails in the Sky, etc. I also enjoy dark thematic material like in Shin Megami Tensei, Silent Hill, Valkyrie Profile, and so on. By no means do I want Conception to be "off the shelves," either, because I respect that it appeals to a particular crowd. My disdain for the humor may indeed be subjective, but I don't think you can deny that it's incredibly fixated on repeating the same type of joke over and over.

Also, it's not a very fun game. That's the most important thing I tried to drive home with my review. :)
3  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Conception II on: April 16, 2014, 11:24:50 AM
2. There is absolutely no correlation between the Editor's Choice award and a game's "mainstream appeal." We all love RPGs here. Nobody cares if they're niche or mainstream, we just care if they're good. Conception II is not that good.

http://www.rpgfan.com/boards/index.php?topic=10987.msg256669#msg256669

You can't say nobody does cause the Gungnir reviewer clearly passed on giving out the Editor's Choice due to lack of mainstream appeal.  I understand it's not in the official blurb about Editor's Choice Award on the site but I remembered this one cause I asked about it.

Hmm. I stand corrected-- it seems like Ashton did refrain from giving an EC award to Gungnir for that reason, but his perspective does not represent the whole staff, nor does his reasoning fall in line with some kind of "rule" we have about which games we give EC to. The award is something left up to each reviewer's discretion. I've been reviewing here for four years, and I've only ever given it out three times: to Persona 4 Golden, FFXIV: ARR, and SMTIV. I certainly wouldn't say that SMTIV caters to a "mainstream" audience, for example, but it's definitely more accessible than past entries in the series.

Anyway, this is veering off topic, but it sounds like most of the people in this thread can corroborate that the gameplay mechanics in Conception II are pretty dull. Like I stated several times in the review, I didn't find the game's humor to be offensive, but it is excessively singular to the point where it becomes obsessive and unfunny. I am absolutely not prudish by any stretch of the imagination, haha.
4  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Conception II on: April 16, 2014, 01:23:29 AM
1. Consider that reviews are written by different people with different tastes.

2. There is absolutely no correlation between the Editor's Choice award and a game's "mainstream appeal." We all love RPGs here. Nobody cares if they're niche or mainstream, we just care if they're good. Conception II is not that good.

3. Conception II's in-engine graphics are pretty damn ugly. I'd argue that Bravely Default looks significantly better, despite its intentionally low-fidelity style. That one's a matter of taste, I suppose.
5  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread on: March 10, 2014, 06:12:42 PM
whooo, opened up my podcast app, and there was the new episode!

I really hope Girl in the Tower makes a second appearance....

STAHP IT
6  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Podcast (Random Encounter) Thread on: February 20, 2014, 09:51:24 AM
I'm never going to be able to escape Dark Souls, am I?
7  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days on: February 11, 2014, 09:26:13 AM
Here's my review: http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/Lightning_Returns_Final_Fantasy_XIII/index.html
8  Site Related & More / RPGFan: The Site / Re: An actual comment - By Dice on: November 03, 2013, 07:55:41 PM
I'm all for it. Let's change that sucker up!
9  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Podcast (Random Encounter) Thread on: October 09, 2013, 05:15:30 PM
I'm not sure what we were discussing, but it was probably Stephen. He's not a fan of the series, which I can respect. :) They're pretty grindy and tend to not change a lot from game to game. I enjoy them, though (especially VIII)!
10  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC Announced for Steam/PSP on: September 06, 2013, 08:17:42 PM
I just pawned my psp off because nothing has come out in 2 years that I have wanted to play besides tactics ogre. Fuck xseed for being so damn slow with an announcement.

There are many reasons why the announcement took so long, the largest of which being that this localization is one of the biggest in industry history. It wasn't an intentional "let's keep them in the dark" kind of thing. There's a lot of good information at Carpe Fulgur's blog: http://www.carpefulgur.com/drakblog/

Thankfully, you can get both FC & SC on Steam, so as long as you have a low-to-mid range PC, you'll be good to go. :)
11  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC Announced for Steam/PSP on: September 06, 2013, 04:32:07 PM
I'm so excited about this, I could explode. I will absolutely be buying both versions of SC, as well as the Steam version of FC when it releases later this year. Carpe Fulgur and XSEED are makin' those dreams come true.

This is a good opportunity to shamelessly self-promote, so I will: remember that Tom Lipschultz of XSEED will be on the next episode of Rhythm Encounter, which features nothing but Falcom music, including Kiseki stuff. The episode will be up in the coming days, so please keep an eye/ear out! :)
12  Media / Single-Player RPGs / The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC Announced for Steam/PSP on: September 05, 2013, 10:36:55 PM
PLEASE LET THIS NOT BE A MISTAKE
13  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Podcast (Random Encounter) Thread on: September 05, 2013, 04:00:21 PM
Just wanted to echo Stephen and Rob's sentiments-- thank you guys for listening and having kind words for us. It's the best "reward" we could ask for. :)

...aside from reviews on iTunes. <3
14  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Music Podcast (Rhythm Encounter) Thread on: September 04, 2013, 01:58:19 PM
Blues,

Wow. So many detailed comments... I can't tell you how happy it makes me to see them. My replies will be far less descriptive, but:

5 - Yes, Casey is both smart and sexy. Err, what? Seriously, though, Ivalice has so much richness in its musical score and history. I can't get enough of that world. I'm surprised you feel so favorably after your experiences with ass-kicking chocobos... ;D

6 - Yay for Chrono Cross, and I'm super glad you liked the track from Nayuta no Kiseki. We're actually playing another track from it on the next episode, too!

7 - This episode was a blast. Vacant Interference is, in fact, the bee's knees (almost as much as Mint Chocolate Chip). I got so include so many Falcom tracks, haha. But not as many as the upcoming episode...!

8 - Aivi's humility really is endearing, isn't it? Speaking with her was such a joy.

9 - I, too, was a bit apprehensive going into this episode, but there really are many great examples of WRPG music-- you just have to dig a little for them.

Thank you so much for listening! 次のエピソド、お楽しみに!
15  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ys (IV) Foliage Ocean of Celceta on: August 26, 2013, 04:33:36 PM
There's a giant headline on our front page with this information. :)

If you care about Falcom/Ys music and history, please check out the next episode of Rhythm Encounter when it debuts later this week! Tom is so knowledgeable it's almost ridiculous.
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