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16  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: September 20, 2016, 01:39:48 PM
Sorry to hear that, Dice. Always a crappy thing to have to do.

Thanks Klutz. We did what we thought was best; she went real peacefully, and even though she was in pain she still managed to wag her tail. :)

She looks like a sweetheart :( You okay, Dice?

I was a mess the day of (yesterday), I didn't really wanna talk to anyone, because what's there to say?.
I tried going to work today, but when I saw my dad still kinda tearing up about it and then everyone asks how you're holding up, you start to think about it and get emotional all over.
I'm happy it hasn't soured me at all on pets, with time I'd love to give another pet a home.

Sorry for talking a lot here, haha, but thanks much Tomara. :)

Hm! A lot to comment on...

College/education/training/etc should be free, it isn't, it's dumb. In the absence of that honestly I don't think it should even be there in some ways, replace them with just actual things like pharmacist accreditation or janitorial chemistry or just anything.

Even the Ancient Greeks and Romans thought that erudition and scholarship was the natural outgrowth of a life spent on successful actual skills, America has it the other way around because they want life to be easy, when it isn't.

Also a coffee grinder sounds like an awesome anniversary thing.

And of course... well... death of a animal pet... all I know is I really can't say anything.

I agree about the education thing, shame it's such a cost and a burden on people when it should be the opposite.  Knowledge is power, and being locked out of it really hurts societies, IMO.

And I like your thing there about the coffee grinder.  There's a few things in life I feel people would *rarely* spend their own money on but *love* to get as a gift (or a gift card)..
Which reminds me, giftcards are the real unsung hero during special occasions, I hate trying to find people THAT ONE THING; let them pick.

I'm truly sorry for your loss, Dice... Keep your chin up. She certainly did. =)
Internet hugz, yo.

Haha thanks natros, and yeah she was a good optimistic pup.  She had a damn stroke and still kept trying to walk.  It was heart breaking and wonderful.
I feel them Internet hugs, I appreciate data lot. HAH!

I'm sending you your favorite flavor of vibes as we speak, Dice.

I taste cheese.

...I love it.

Thanks a lot Arvis. :)

as someone who gets emotional at the mere thought of his cat dying...  I have the deepest sympathy for you Dice.  Gutted even.

Try not to dwell. I'm happy I always appreciated every moment with my pup, even walking her when it was twenty-below-zero haha
Thanks a lot Jawsh, give your kit an extra few pets and cuddles today.
17  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: September 19, 2016, 10:33:14 PM
Our family made the tough decision to put down our furriest family member.  She was 13 years old, a puppy at heart, and the best thing to come home to whether I was in a good or sad mood.  She had a sort of stroke on Friday and basically lost the ability to walk; we had to help her pee and she barely ate (unless presented gourmet cheeseburgers, then the black lab managed an appetite).

I'm pretty heart broken right now.

Probably the best selfie I ever managed of us (she was terribly camera shy)

She managed to make friends with this white puffball; I think seeing an energetic pup gave my girl some extra energy in her old age.

Last photo we got (too many photos still wouldn't have been enough).  I'm happy she was wagging her tail and 'smiling' till the very end and I don't think she could ever say she went to bed on an empty stomach.

I'll miss her.
18  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: World of Final Fantasy on: September 15, 2016, 11:16:05 AM
TGS trailer (English)
Trailer in Japanese

Sweet jesus i hope attack cutscenes can be skipped, don't want to watch Tidus wind up for a measely 500 HP. x)

The game certainly plays up nostalgia and i love the big budget look of everything.  I mean, it looks way too dramatic for the content, but hopefully it's some fun.
19  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Saga Scarlet Grace announced for PSVita on: September 15, 2016, 10:43:35 AM
Here's the thing.  I feel like Unlimited SaGa could have been good with a better manual or tutorials or any sort of explanatory exposition.  It's like trying to play a complicated board game without knowing the rules and there is no expert player there to kinda help walk you through the rules.  Unlimited SaGa is not a "pick-up-and-play" type of game. 

No matter what way you slice it, having to hit a slot machine to activate skills in battle is baloney.

Lunar: Dragon Song's "running HP drain" can also be filed under "what the fuck were they thinking" pile of gaming mistakes.
20  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back on: September 12, 2016, 12:02:00 AM
I recently saw The Nice Guys, a buddy cop/film noir set in the '70s starring Ryan Gosling and Russell Crowe.  It was decent - I was surprised that Crowe was the more likable character.

Saw it too!

I've definitely enjoyed Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and The Nice Guys on their own more than the entire Lethal Weapon Series (all having writer Shane Black in common).  I also really liked Holly a lot, she was a perfect "Penny" to Gosling's bumbling, accident-prone, happy-go-lucky Inspector Gadget (also, how many times did the dude "interact" with windows in that film?).  The main cast was great, the dialogue was witty, and while the film takes some time to get going, I'm a sucker for a good mystery.

Also grabbing Kim Bassinger was a nice touch, and the visual homage to Gladiator was a little brilliant. :P

21  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: September 08, 2016, 01:45:18 PM
^ so you're saying I have to go to the Netherlands to get decent computer repair service?

I giggled. xD

And yeah, about the gym, you can hit the weights all you want but it's unlikely you'll slim down unless you change what you're putting in you first.  Sucks, but that's the way it is.  You'd be surprised how little the body can get by on if over-eating or big dinners is involved.
22  Media / Game Journals / Re: Retro Encounter Podcast Thread on: September 08, 2016, 11:04:27 AM
You forgot Beyond the Beyond and anything Bubsy.

I laughed (and kinda liked the second Bubsy game....2p anyway where you fly around and shoot yarn or some crap)
23  Media / Game Journals / Re: Retro Encounter Podcast Thread on: September 08, 2016, 02:07:24 AM
hah! dear RPGFan, looks like ya gotta make a FAQ to deal with people's issues on your definitions for things.

But Jawsh, I think they said Retro games were at least a couple years old before they're covered.  Whether it's looking back at Dragon Quest 1 or Mass Effect 1, it definitely give a chance for the staff to go back on old titles that could use some discussion and might be out of the spotlight, or have finally had a chance to be played by a bunch of people by this point.  Usually, and after the 2-3 years that pass since a game has released, I think is enough time to qualify it as being "pretty late to the party" if you finally did get around to it.  Besides, it'd be a bit weird to have two separate podcasts for the OLD-OLD games and the NEW-OLD games.  I don't think the word 'retro' can claim a specific amount of years back, and it's probably best not to think too hard on the title beyond being maybe a lil' catchy and kind-of all-encompassing title for chatting up not-new games.

I felt the added bits in Golden watered down the otherwise perfectly paced character arcs in the original.
I felt the epilogue in Golden kind of "undid" all the growth that the characters went through
I hated Golden's version of "Never More"

Not that I don't appreciate some of what Golden did.
It gave us not one, but TWO kickass remixes of I'll Face Myself for the Marie battles.

I can see this.  The additions definitely felt like additions to a pretty well rounded game, so I can definitely dig that

I'm actually all for Star Ocean 2 being on there.  It's not the best on many a level, but it does something right and I love it's weird archaic charm and breakable battle system like crazy.
Claude/Opera are the real MVP.

Opera is my shiiiiittttt! There is just something about getting stupidly powerful in an action rpg that I love. I think it is definitely the least flawed Star Ocean (lel).

It's funny cuz it's true. :/
Star Ocean 3 I'd rank if the dungeons were absolutely the worst.
24  Media / Game Journals / Re: Retro Encounter Podcast Thread on: September 08, 2016, 12:36:57 AM
Kingdom Hearts

Peter, get in here, a kindred spirit!

I'm actually all for Star Ocean 2 being on there.  It's not the best on many a level, but it does something right and I love it's weird archaic charm and breakable battle system like crazy.
Claude/Opera are the real MVP.

Am I the only person that preferred the original Persona 4 over Golden?

How so?
25  Media / Game Journals / Re: Retro Encounter Podcast Thread on: September 08, 2016, 12:10:55 AM
I don't know why you like posting memes so much, but it doesn't really contribute to the conversation. I'm not even sure what that one is supposed to imply.

You're not exactly a role model ya'know. :P

Ah, so personal attacks are justified when you think so, got it.

Were you particularly offended and upset that someone didn't like agreeing (but still agreeing) to a point you made?
I feel there are bigger hills to die on, but sure. 

Shame on you Arvis.  Both of you say sorry and play nice, and let's let this lie because it's not important and no one got badly hurt.

Back to the discussion, and i'd still like to hear this top 10 of yours whether or not it 'jives' with the maintream tastes of the podcast. :P
26  Media / Game Journals / Re: Retro Encounter Podcast Thread on: September 07, 2016, 10:56:14 PM
Nah my list would get vetoed because it's too inaccessible.

Hate to say it, but I find myself agreeing with Lard on almost every point, despite continuing to really dislike his attitude.

You really had to phrase it that way?

You're not exactly a role model ya'know. :P

I tried listening to the top ten thread and holy fuck it is offensively bad.

Then, whoever said the newer Star Trek movies were better than the old ones? Fuck you, you have legitimately terrible taste. Cutting Nocturne over Mass Effect 2? A complete and utter fucking joke. You are terrible, terrible people.

"Nocturne is too hard! Wahhh! Etrian Odyssey is too hard! Wahhh!"

Christ, somebody get you guys baby's first rpg.

The whining and pissing and moaning about Chrono Cross almost 20 years later is loooooong past the point of being a circlejerk.


Lastly, people voting for games they'd played either an hour of or they intended to play is fucking retarded. Some of the worst reasoning I have ever heard for including a game on a list.

We're posting a special Dreamcast RPGs episode today, and the next two weeks will be the two Valkyria Chronicles episodes.  It's Sega month!  (total coincidence). After those we have a special 50th episode planned, which is getting posted on the 28th. 

We're still yet to record our first Danganronpa episode due to scheduling difficulties.  If you want to ask a question or make sure we address a specific topic, then post it here or send an email to retro@rpgfan.com.  Thanks for listening and discussing! 

I feel like saying the Dreamcast was a weird system is more right than for any other console mainly because it felt like it was largely made of of "hidden gems", all the time.
27  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The Legend of Zelda Topic (Latest: NX title delayed to '17) on: September 04, 2016, 11:08:36 PM
i think amiibo's are stupid. hey lets make dlc but make you buy a physical item to get it! how does nintendo not get shit on for this?

I kinda like them if for no other reason than owning little Nintendo figures from both popular and sometimes obscure series'.
28  Media / Game Journals / Re: Retro Encounter Podcast Thread on: September 04, 2016, 11:06:19 PM
That's pretty much what we ended up with though.

Eh. Part of some of the Top 10, yeah some are a little predictable; but still, this is usually bound to happen the same way, for example, To Kill a Mockingbird being on just about every "essential books" list or Citizine Kane on an "essential movies" list.  999 or Steambot or .hack or Wild ARMs rarely get their time of day and still at least qualify.  Certain items definitely still stay on a Top list because they are loved (often times justifiably, sometimes maybe not because opinions between folk can differ because that's allowed to happened :P ), but the best part is getting to that most essential.  This was more about the journey and great to hear discussion on lesser presented titles and working through why the best games get through to the next round.

Destiny is an FPS. Castlevania and Zelda.....just are not RPGs. The "rpg elements" thing just doesn't hold water. And yes, RPGfan has covered visual novels. But are they RPGs? No. Do they have any of these "RPG elements"? No. If you're going to start including those games, you might as well include Tetris.

Agree to disagree.  Again, I don't see genres nearly as neatly as you do, and I'm happy that what this site covers isn't under some complete rigid guidelines so it can cover more titles, many I probably wouldn't have checked out or heard of unless this site picked it up.

Poor taste in one thing is often reflected in other things. Hence why we got stuff like Destiny and ME2 on the list.


Yes, really. EO4 is easily the most accessible of the EO games, maybe next to EOUntold 1 and 2. They don't even define what "accessible" means. It sounded like an excuse to get rid of Nocturne so they could predictably include Persona 4. If these games are so "inaccessible", maybe they should stick to Guardian's Crusade and Magical Starsign.


I've never said that CC doesn't have its own issues, it's just that the constant complaint and criticism of the game since it came out is "It's not Chrono Trigger 2", which is a terrible complaint.

Half the reasoning for getting rid of games/keeping games was terrible.

"DQ Monsters is better than DQ 5! No, get rid of DQ Monsters because it's too similar to Pokemon!"

"I haven't played ME2, but I intend to". (Which is the shittiest ME game, because it's no more than a gaiden at best and barely qualifies as an RPG)

"I've only played an hour of Steambot Chronicles, but I like soandso's enthusiasm for the game".

Really? THAT's why games got kept? At least the argument for FF4 vs. FF6 was an actual, substantial argument I could understand, even if I didn't agree with it.

And yes, the fact that non-rpgs got on the list and Suikoden 2 wasn't makes it invalid from the start.

I'm not sure why you're treating this as an iron-clad, matter-of-fact, be-all-end-all list.  I took this as more as a game between a few editors to pick out a few shining RPG examples and work them into a list and find a bunch of titles they like best and argue for their favour.  Who knows, maybe we'll follow up on the idea again in the future with a new batch of staff to represent their own ideas and favourites; this isn't a site feature (of which usually gets a lot more of the staff to weigh in on, not the 5 people who 'signed up' for this), but a podcast where things get discussed in a pretty informal roundabout.  Again, if you can read any tone from their discussion, you can probably guess even the podcasters probably wouldn't even call that a definitive list (and in my personal opinion, it's not mine either but still reflects a lot of stronger titles worth looking at, whether it's the looking at the Top 10 or even the 40 qualifiers).

If you're this sour about the choices, make your own forum post or write the site to do your fan-submitted feature.  I'd honestly be interested in your personal Top 10 if theirs ticked you off so much.  :/
29  Media / Game Journals / Re: Retro Encounter Podcast Thread on: September 04, 2016, 02:57:05 AM
I tried listening to the top ten thread and holy fuck it is offensively bad.

I think that's the point.  But I kinda like the fact there's a lot of more personal choices here, it makes the list more interesting otherwise you're left with yet another boring list where CT is in the top three, Final Fantasy 6/7 are on there (or FF1 for "starting it all"), Skyrim, and some Pokemon game (whether deserving it or not, it'll be there for cultural impact), etc, etc.  

A lot of these Top___ lists all start looking the same after a while, so it was fun listening to this and starting with 40 and work on chiseling that list down.

I thought it got humorously salty by the end, I think it's pretty clear a lot of games loved by one wasn't shared by all.  x)

First of all, Destiny, Castlevania, Zelda, 999 and VLR are NOT RPGs.

If you include 999 and VLR, then you end up having to include stuff like Professor Layton or Hotel Dusk.  

Destiny is one of those games I think is really hard to narrow down to one genre.  MMO, first person shooter, action RPG, lootin-tootin-like-Halo-but-isn't-online-shared-world-shooter.  Castlevania and Zelda (Breath of the Wild more than ever) has RPG elements even if they're not traditional RPGs.  And RPGFan has, for many years, kept visual novel titles (or visual novel 'types') as part of what they cover.  

Also, does this really truly matter?  The site still avoids sports game coverage or other obvious examples of non-RPGs; and a lot of games can't or shouldn't always fit neatly into one category, and I sincerely doubt a basic one-size-fits-all definition for an RPG can exist without someone listing exceptions.  

Plus, it beats calling the site MMOvisualnovelPUZZLEactionRPGfan. :P

And, I dunno, I kinda like the variety, I'm kinda glad they didn't have to narrow from 40 games of games with random battles and a level up system for [bad] example.

Then, whoever said the newer Star Trek movies were better than the old ones? Fuck you, you have legitimately terrible taste. Cutting Nocturne over Mass Effect 2? A complete and utter fucking joke. You are terrible, terrible people.

Opinions, right?  I think there's highs and lows to the Star Trek flicks throughout its cinema history.  No need to tell them to fuck themselves or take it so personally (I hope this is sort of just 'an act').  I know you've said things I don't agree with but I sure haven't stuck 'f's on you.  

"Nocturne is too hard! Wahhh! Etrian Odyssey is too hard! Wahhh!"

They mentioned in a matter of accessibility.  And if a game is so hard it came hamper your enjoyment why WOULDN'T it be docked from the staff talking about a Top 10 list up of largely personal choices?  Hell, the games still ranked, I think that's pretty stellar; I didn't think they were completely shitting on the series, it has its fans, we know its strengths, it's just not part of their essentials (and found it harder to find an audience because of the sort-of "game" being played here of keeping or cutting titles).  

Christ, somebody get you guys baby's first rpg.

Heh, really??

Lastly, the whining and pissing and moaning about Chrono Cross almost 20 years later is loooooong past the point of being a circlejerk. It's the exact same bullshit excuse that people criticise Legend of Mana.

They wanted an exact copy of the SNES game with PS1 graphics. They didn't get it. Then they threw a temper tantrum. It's beyond ridiculous at this point.

I could not care less about CT>CC's legacy, I still LOVE both games, and I think they're both flawed.  Have at me.  I also think your comment in the second part there is hardly unique, a lot of people are pretty aware CC isn't CT, it doesn't mean it doesn't have its own set of issue even apart from the "Chrono Trigger 2" idea.  Again, Chrono Cross still ranked here, so it's obviously valued.  And besides the "weirdness" around Cross's initial release, I haven't really seen people taking to the internet to actively diss and shoot down the title.  It's also going to inevitably be compared with one of the biggest and best-known RPG darlings because Cross is a follow-up to that game.  They can and will be compared, and it's unfortunate that Chrono Trigger has to cast such a big shadow.  
30  Media / Game Journals / Re: Josh blindly flails his way through a natural magic/no esper run of FFVI -hiatus on: September 02, 2016, 12:50:12 AM
also, Shadow already died and I'm not going back for him.

Well that's that then.

Also, yeah when I was a kid and this came out and I saw my older brother finish the timed section of the Floating Continent I was on pins and needles the whole time.  Shit like that isn't meant for a 6 year old, and waiting for Shadow to come back without any internet help or prior knowledge is absolutely nerve-wracking.

Also I feel I need to replay the game or does the game spend as little time explaining the amazing power of the Warring Triad than I thought? I always hated when Shadow fucks up their alignment even more. xD
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