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Subject: Persona 3: FES
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Date: 3rd October 2014 Time: 16:00 EST
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31  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: A Game Journal Reborn on: September 26, 2014, 02:24:34 AM
Final Fantasy VII
(in which we infiltrate the big bad government till something fucky happens)

= Shinra Top Floor
Cloud: Former SOLDIER First Class!
Barret: AVALANCHE Member!
Tifa: Same here!
Aeris: ...Flower girl from the slums
Red VIII: A research specimen!
Rufus: *shrug*

And our motley crew to save the world nears completion.

= Rufus is the fucking coolest.  Anything stands up against him, he'd mow it down.  Hell, he's in Advent Children somehow despite getting blasted in the face.... .

= Honestly, the whole Shinra building is *awesome* as far as dungeons go.  Each floor mostly has some new gimmick to advance it.  FUCK I MISS OLD RPGs.  Optional entry (stairs, always the stairs), climbing through vents, finding an ultimate weapon, watching the President set up as a "big bad" only to get killed, etc. 

= One thing I hate as Cloud as the lead character is being stuck with his annoyingly spikey do and bland colouring almost the entire game.  I love the colours of the rest the team.  Ah well.

= I don't get how this game has an awesome and fast battle system, but the next two installments just got slower (with...'mixed changes' to the battle system).

= I've never appreciated her in previous runs; but fuck Aeris, I'm flirting with Tifa -- she deserves the love (meanwhile I feel like an ass for not pursuing Aeris when the game implies it much, much more).  I actually love that Cloud's affection for Aeris helps defrost him, and it doesn't feel too pressured or one-sided at all.  They kinda just...dug each other.  <3 
But Tifa all the way.  Also, her limit break is super strong.

= I never understood: Why did Hojo throw Aeris and Red VIII (yes, 8) together??  What interest was he to Hojo?  How did he grab him?  The whole thing is odd. 
Also, for the last surviving unicorn Ancient and super valuable research subject, Shinra sure treats Aeris like shit.
32  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: September 26, 2014, 12:26:21 AM
wrt migraines, I think I can deal with the pain. It's the hypersensitivity to everything that gets to me. Especially the taste/smell distortions.

Anyway I'm trying to sleep on my back -- I usually sleep oppositewards -- because I've consistently screwed up my shoulders with how I'm sleeping on now, but like, sleeping on my back gives me these weird dreams that aren't really even dreams because they're too fragmentary.

Not a migraine, but Ive had a day-long headache that three pills haven't help at all.  I think I'm stepping up the game to my 'super pills'.  Hope you get better mesh.

I can't sleep on my back, I need some angle off the 90-north.   
33  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Maxx plays FFXIII - based on a true story on: September 25, 2014, 04:36:33 PM
Have fun!
34  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The Legend of Legacy on: September 25, 2014, 02:59:18 PM
I don't like/get the popping in and out stuff....  Dislike.

The art looks exactly like a SaGa game and I love it.

CC desk is very CC.

I kinda have a warning bell going off with FuRyu behind this... but...
35  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: A Game Journal Reborn on: September 24, 2014, 07:20:30 PM
I finally got around to borrowing my friend's Wii so I can check out Xenoblade Chronicles.

I need to get on XC myself. I bought it, and tried it out earlier in the year, and the amount of irrelevant side/mini quests that came up even in the first town was a huge turn off for me. Haven't played it since. Not sure why it bugged me so.. prob cuz I'm a minimalist at heart. Just got on my nerves.
I keep hearing praise about it, so I know I eventually gotta bust my Wii out of storage, and power through my personal hang ups to the great game that apparently lies within.

Good call on the milk stout. Hopefully you don't wash down the jerky with it. =P

Then dont do them. :)
You can seriously fly through this game if you ignore most of the quests.  You miss stuff; but if you just want the solid, core experience, it's unnecessary.  And since the title is so focused on you doing things at your own pace, like >80% of the game quests can be done anytime you want to.

But besides that; I think Xenoblade is a good answer to the common complaints between both W and JRPGs, and a great experience for any player.
36  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Misc. Gaming News Topic on: September 24, 2014, 07:18:41 PM
I thought Dante in SMT: Nocturne [?] worked due to the natures of the games (ghouls 'n ghosts 'n demons 'n such), but yeah this seems kinda like the Flintstones meeting the Jetsons.

As the owner of a pair of breasts, Jiggle physics annoy me due to [what feels like] a dubious understanding of how women's breasts actually bounce -- but whatever, that's trivial.

Wet physics is interesting though (moreso in the interest of realism), I'm just curious how it'll look.  "Wetness" as a gameplay thing is just....kinda funny to hear.
37  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The Legend of Legacy on: September 24, 2014, 02:31:10 PM
According to game designer Kyoji Koizumi, who also comes from the SaGa series, he wanted to make a game without quests, where players can find out what to do on their own. But they knew if there wasn’t any guidance, some players would feel stuck. So The Legend of Legacy provides one big objective, then leaves it up to the player to figure out how to do that, uncovering things along the way.
Read more at http://gematsu.com/2014/09/first-look-legend-legacy#I63lgdTw5ZrUB5Tj.99

That sounds kinda awesome (provided the big objective isn't "Beat final boss").
38  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: A Game Journal Reborn on: September 24, 2014, 01:58:49 PM
note to self: the furry brony (furbro?, brorry? brofy?) can be unpleasant

Anyway, I'm a few days away from completing Lunar: SSH and I'm excited that A) the girlfriend will be out of town for 4 days so I can drink milk stout and eat beef jerky in my underwear all weekend (shes a vegan so both of those are usually a no no) and B) I finally got around to borrowing my friend's Wii so I can check out Xenoblade Chronicles.  I refuse to pick up the hardware because I couldn't fathom being interested in another RPG for the Wii (havent played a zelda since aLttP and I don't give no fucks about Paper Mario).

Now now, bad blood doesn't do any good.  Consider it a typed 'slip of the tongue' and move on.

Xenoblade is, I'm sure other people here could have guessed, on my "Top 10 Ever" list.  It's a bit of a slow start, but I honestly think is perfect in a number of ways.

Paper Marios are pretty good, but eh. No interested is no interest; and it's not a series I'd try to inspire interest in you for.

Zelda TP is ...I dunno, I liked it better on Gamecube since the motion controls were a clear afterthought; but I do think it's at least twice as better than Skyward Sword (which gives new meaning to handholding and repetition).  Both are worth the borrow since you'll have the system (or if you care about Zelda titles at all); moreso the former, IMO.

...shit, what else does the Wii have that's good?  I'm kinda blanking.  I played a ton of Virtual Console I guess.
39  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: A Game Journal Reborn on: September 24, 2014, 04:00:19 AM

And you seem to have lost some perspective.  Have the FF titles really gotten worse over time? Or have other contemporary titles just caught up to them?  Both?

No, I think it's fair to say they've become worse. The first ten or so Final Fantasies had a clear focus, a story they wanted to tell. Those stories may have had their flaws and the gameplay wasn't always as innovative as it could have been, but the games were solid products.

Then Final Fantasy became a Very Big and Important Thing to Square Enix. Sure, it had always been Squaresofts biggest series, but they had plenty of other franchises to be proud of. But things happened (like the financial ouchie The Spirits Within caused), talent left and the number of projects they could take on became more limited. As a result Final Fantasy became the basket they wanted to put nearly all their eggs into. That's a big risk to take, so they wanted to put everything they got into that single franchise, resulting in a big mess of ideas and seemingly endless development times.

Final Fantasy XIII was a game build on some decent ideas, but went through three very different producers while in development (which took over 5 years!). It's kinda noticable.

Now look at Final Fantasy XIII. Humans living in a giant cocoon up in the sky, unaware of what their protectors are planning for them? A ragtag team of heroes being hunted down by the society they were once part of, trying to make a last stand for better or worse? That's pretty cool. But then they couldn't stop adding bullshit, throwing endless amounts of fantasy words at confused players. The sequels by adding time travel, the end of the world, valkyries and what else was going on. Square Enix wanted the games to do everything and be everything, rarely acknowledging their own limits.

Anyway, the faux retro The 4 Heroes of Light was the Final Fantasy game I had the most fun with in the past five years, so perhaps you should take make opinion with a grain of salt.

Anyway II (and actually on-topic), I think I'll be able to take down Ar nosurge's final boss today. Didn't enjoy this installment as much as the first two games (it's too light on gameplay for me), but I'm glad they toned down the fanservice and the music is a awesome as ever. I'm pretty impressed with myself for recognising Origa (she sung two of the hymmns), because I'm not exactly a big music fan and had no idea she lend her skills to the game.

Absolutely agree on the FF series analysis.  And given that the last 5+ years have been spent talking about the FNC "saga", FF15 has since become its own thing (but apparently connected a bit), FF14 is taking a second go to being an online game, and people are pretty sick of Lightning by this point since third time wasn't a charm ---- no wonder it's easy to be nostalgic about the FF series otherwise, we've been living along the "new games" for so long, and the older titles felt a bit stronger on their own, no?  FF15 has me excited but I'm worried as hell it's going to goof at some point; if not the gameplay (which I'm hoping they can at least manage) then perhaps some silly/pretentious melodrama that plagued most of the FF13 cast and needless complications in the plot.

IIRC, FF12 went through a director change midway through.... Given the start of the game and the end, you can kinda really tell.

Anyways, doing a replay of Xillia 2 kinda pissed me off for the same reason.  Its got good ideas; but the ideas feel somewhat jammed into a plot it doesn't belong to (though I respect the darker approach and better development of the original characters) and the gameplay (while a more concise version of what the first game had) adds next to *nothing* new.  This game being a full $60 price tag almost feels weird, in other words.  It's funny, because like 13-2, I find the sequel better.... but something is way off.

I really want to play Ar No Surge, but the lack of gameplay (which is apparently no exaggeration) has me sort of on the fence.  Is the plot segments at least a good listen to??
EDIT [II]: Nevermind, I saw your detailed post in the 'Ar' topic

I think I'm gonna keep playing FF7 a bit; it was fun getting peoples responses from that (speaking of 'Final Fantasy nostalgia').
40  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The Legend of Legacy on: September 23, 2014, 10:55:03 PM
That title has me sold.

Its almost as good as The Legend of Legendary Heroes.

Divine Divinity is up there too.

Also.... that logo looks kind familliar.

Anyways, I'm with Ygg, gorgeous splash page music.  Hope we get it here cuz companies are all like "Hey Brave Defaulty could do it, maybe we can too!"
41  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The Legend of Legacy on: September 23, 2014, 10:23:41 PM
That title has me sold.
42  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: A Game Journal Reborn on: September 23, 2014, 12:21:47 PM
Final Fantasy VII

= I wonder if anyone in the slums, right next door, were angry or jealous of Aeris' massive 'estate'.  Seriously, it's perfect.  There's even a waterfall in the back (wtf)?

= I haven't played this game in years.  Anyone else notice a very maternal vibe from a ton of the female characters?

= Aeris: Is Tifa....a girl?
 Cloud: >No >>Yeah *click*
Aeris: Oh, that's nice.  So that's nice.
>___>  Jealousy is ugly or the translation is that spotty.  Be great if the PSX games could get a reworked translation for their steam releases.

= Aw, why did the FF titles stop their crazy amounts of cursing in the games?  Barret [and cid] are hilarious.

= I love love love the fuck out of the Menu Portraits.  The high contrast and blue shadowing is gorgeous to look at.  For as much as I love FF9, the rough CG portraits did nothing for me.  HAND DRAWN BABY.

To be fair, the comment was made humorously, play what you like and all that. I know quite a few people enjoy xiii, no matter how much I felt that it was a poor title. But I am thoroughly scared that any more sales of it will give SE the idea to try a new sequel....this time starring Snow...the horror.

Careful, you don't wanna stir supporters into a [minimum] two page debate about this game again.

I think the time has finally come... Time to dust off my PS3 and tackle FFXIII. Wish me luck.

tell us how you really feel...
I really feel like any money put into XIII will give squeenix the idea that we want another sequel....no one wants that.

Don't worry, Lightning Returns bombed hard enough that they're never gonna give anything done in that game a second shake (despite being the best thing to come of that ridiculous trilogy/compilation).

I think the second game was alright; but the pretty mediocre reviews kept me away from the third game (at least paying full price).  I was gonna ask if it's actually worth it.... but I really can't see myself caring until the game hits like $10 or some amount during a Steam Sale.

As a whole and with the entire series is mind, I'm curious what kind of legacy the FF13 saga will leave.
43  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Recently watched Episodes of TELEVISION BOX offerings! on: September 23, 2014, 01:54:04 AM


= As far as a Pilot goes: Great job!  They managed a bit of everything happening at once.  Action, mystery, misdirection, romance, allusions, references, and some characterization.

= Saying that, the actors don't seem too cozy with their roles just yet.  But that's common for pilot episodes and a big hurdle to overcome.

= The complaint about being hit with a TON of 'future villains' is true.  Shit, let's just get 'em all in there.  Worse is how completely unsubtle it is.  Ivy? LOTSA PLANTS.  Penguin? BUM LEG, POINTY NOSE.  Selina Kyle? STEALS MILK FOR CATS.  Riddler? WHAT AM I? A QUESTION! 
I was half expecting a bat to weep with Bruce Wayne when his parents get shot.

= The director of photography and cinematographer did a stand up job.  Definitely made a TV show feel less like 'TV'.

= I just made fun of her, but holy shit if their actress for Selina Kyle didn't look like she had kitten DNA.  Her wide eyes, straight nasal nose, and tiny chin make her look like a real-life kitty cat.

= Anyways, it was bumpy.  Great in some places, kinda hammy in others.  But I wanna follow it. I think it's a cool idea being played out in the right time.
44  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Doctor Who on: September 23, 2014, 01:41:43 AM
Smith as the Jar Jar Binks of doctors....  I get it and I giggled, but that's still a pretty low comparison even if you think he dodged the bullet. x)

LOVED the latest episode.  I thought it was just a ton of fun and worked the 'Who-Formula' really well.  Capaldi is fast becoming a favourite doctor for me.
45  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Gained in translation on: September 23, 2014, 12:23:13 AM
I still end up saying You-fee, Sheen-ra, Kate Sith and Tee-fuh in my head while I play even though I know better. 

You-fee is right (Yu [ユ] and -fi [フィ]), "Kate Sith" I dunno (for whatever reason I went for the rhyme: Cait-Saith cuz it amused me or something...I dunno I was 10), and Tifa is right as well.

This game's opening in English was sung by...


I gotta admit, I do like the voice and her singing is near perfect. It's just that it was a pretty cheesy pop song in the first place, so in english I can't help but be distracted by how stupid the lyrics are, but that wasn't a problem when the words were in Japanese. <_<

Honestly, I find a lot of Japanese lyrics positively baffling most of the time or on some level of poetry that I can't even begin to take on.

So I'm just gonna post this
I have no idea to this day what those two Italian ladies were singing about. Truth is, I don't want to know. Some things are best left unsaid. I'd like to think they were singing about something so beautiful, it can't be expressed in words, and makes your heart ache because of it.

- Red
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