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31  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Conception II on: April 16, 2014, 01:27:01 AM
Also kinda find it very pot and kettle how many people here railing on Conception II with one fist but used the other to handwave pretty much all of Stick of Truth; which anything South Park is pretty much as juvenile, low-as-you-can-go, bottom of the barrel not-funny humor. I'll point it out again. SoT utilized ABORTION and ANAL RAPE (possibly of a minor; have no desire to research this particular topic but considering how many characters in the SP universe are children I think the odds are good enough to assume this until someone corrects me) multiple times for 'comedy'. Guess what it got? Editor's Choice. And yet Conception II is being ragged because of minor to moderate innuendo? *brain blown*

I don't want to go too in-depth here and I do think it's an *extremely* fair point to bring up South Park.  But I think it's the degree of humour.  South Park is much more diverse in its humour, Conception, from what I've seen/heard is much more one-tracked with titty jokes galore.  I also find it kind of sucks that, dialogue and scene-wise, a lot of the jokes have all been done before whereas South Park makes a point to see how far they can go.  A lot of South Parks attempts at showing nudity is usually showing off the 'ugly' side of it as well, not getting girls in bondage situations or other titillating scenarios.  My issue has been more that we've seen this before, and I don't get why titles like this always seem to get away with the same jokes, same scenarios, and same dialogue about large breasts and the like.

Conception plays perversion for cheap, done-before laughs and excuses to get girls interested in [veiled] sexual relationship with men under the cover of a Teen Rating.  You can't tell me Conception takes itself seriously (or maybe it does), but its out pandering to a specific market.  It shows girls in an unrealistic and cheap way too and puts emphasis on other 'assets' and quirks of theirs, but... eugh, whatever, characterization (I'm more talking about the dialogue than the character models which, hey, interesting new outfits are always fun).

South Park makes a point to be satiracal, crass, and painting the 'ugly truth' in any issue it takes on.  Often times the show served as a critique of 'today' and whatever current events more than it was trying to get simply 'yuks' from slapstick or crazy hijinks.  Also, the probe and abortion scenes were censored to some extent (iirc) but it did sit itself as a 'con' for a number of reviewers.  Otherwise, the show had effectively satirized post-9/11 hyperbole, repeatedly making ironic comedy about racism in many forms, mocking Scientology, and mocking the current state of television numerous times.

Again, I do think you're totally right to the extent of humour the games get into.  But I do think the type of humour and the type of game are quite different as well and respectively aim at a different audience.

EDIT: Also, you make it sound like South Park has *never* been in the news for its content. :P
This show came out in the late 90s, television was still in its family friendly sitcom days.... South Park stirred a TON of shit. x)

Also I know Bravely Default was reviewed by different people for this site but how do you explain that game having a significantly higher graphics score than Conception 2?  I played the demo for both (in Conceptions case I did for both consoles) and I just don't see any way to explain it other than dragging down the graphics score for the Conception 2 review to match up with the 60s it got in the other categories. 

I personally loved how Brave Default is stylized.  It gives off that SaGa Frontier II feel what with the hand drawn backgrounds.
32  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back on: April 15, 2014, 11:45:53 PM
Frozen -  I thought I would like it more than I did.  I know kids across America are singing Let  It Go, but I wasn't enthralled with the music.   It just isn't as good as The Little Mermaid or the other Disney movies I grew up on.  Maybe I'm just older and not into singing animated movies. 

I've only really dug about one Disney song per title.  'Let it Go' was mine for Frozen, and the rest were just really...whatever (well, the one with younger Anna was really cute/sweet too).

I definitely don't think it helps that there is a "Frozen-craze" going around, and I legitimately wonder if viewing it before it hit would have made for less sour opinions (people who got Last of Us later seem to be going through a bit of the same thing right now too, for example).  I think it's more that people are just happy that Disney is "back" after what was a pretty nasty dry spell (which serves the interests of a new generation of kids and the twenty-somethings who grew up on it and are about child-ready age themselves).  So yaaay. Fun times for all.  It also doesn't help that we are in this "wonderful" Internet Age where memes explode nation-wide almost overnight to turn songs like "Let it Go" into about 1,000 different cover songs, or Frozen itself into a million different gifs, funny images, or fan art.

Nostalgia reaallly clouds my memories for Little Mermaid.  I love the hell out of it.  I shouldn't.  Eric is a bit of a dud, Ariel doesn't really 'learn' anything, and basically the entire supporting cast served as better moral beacons against the rambunctious Ariel.  But fuck it!  It's a fun film to watch.  (speaking of what I mentioned earlier, I actually don't really don't care for "Part of Your World", I thought "Kiss the Girl" was a million times cooler and more entertaining, musically-speaking).

I *do* love Frozen, but certainly the waves of support, fans, and awards have definitely exaggerate the acclaim (I've been a firm believer in trying not to build *anything* up in my head and just take it on as it is... I initially had no interest in Last of Us, and I adore it now).
33  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Conception II on: April 15, 2014, 11:33:01 PM

Eugh, c'mon, really?

I dunno.  I get so torn on talking about this stuff.  On one hand I want to rip into it for being immature, excessive, and more stupid and campy than actually funny and amusing (like OMG SENPAI HAS BIG BREASTS <3 jokes happening at *least* once an hour); but on the other how can I object to having just a good ol time with a 'guilty pleasure' title?  

I can't.  I've tried writing about 3 other posts tearing it up till the other latter half of the argument kicks in and reminds me that there is some weird audience who eats this up and is pretty damn happy to be getting this; and I like that in some weird way (though I hate when people do indeed defend it like it is Shakespeare or throw out the "stop being offended!!" arguments).  And I'm not the target demographic, so besides that ...less-than-impressed Tiny Cartridge review I posted up top, enjoy.

...and still hoping we can get a funny game that isn't T&A based.
Which, by the way, I absolutely agree with Sophie's sentiments, Annubis.  They do indeed look like butts!
34  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed on: April 15, 2014, 06:45:59 PM
Well, since we're talking about things that were taken down, I'm not sure if this was ever mentioned in the thread.  If it was, apologies.

This was leaked by the same people who leaked the original Symphonia CE:

We're, if the leak is correct, getting the Ludger Ichiban Kuji figure this time.
If you're interested, here he is:

Flamfas is a good guy, I'll trust it and whatever leaks (hell, the voice acting has been done for a while so I don't think it'd be too much a stretch... I'm surprised there aren't any announcements for what's a relatively soon release).
35  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Conception II on: April 15, 2014, 04:32:18 PM
Actually I was curious myself and went to look and it isn't bad.  Someone was giving impressions and said the dating part had repeated dialogue making it mechanical and lifeless. 

Yeah it's not bad.  Some accept that it is for the niche audience it is (and enjoy it despite of that), but of course you get one or two ham-heads who think it's a conspiracy by reviewers to downgrade any type of bawdy anime title because whatever.

Incoming fun police:
I recently took issue with the "Bozongas" thing in Tales of Xillia, not even for being dirty, but simply for just not being funny to me.  Butt fuck it.  Other people *love* highschool-level humor I guess.

I loved Symphonia's humor a lot more.  Lloyd uses dual-swords because it means "double the attack power".  That's awesome!  And edges breaking the fourth wall.  Or Lloyd saying his best school subjects are "PE and Art" when his teacher then tells him to shut up -- relatable! I love it!
36  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Conception II on: April 15, 2014, 04:00:47 PM
I don't get why so many titles are going for cheap T&A humor than any other kind of humor.
37  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: A Game Journal Reborn on: April 15, 2014, 12:13:53 PM
My break from Final Fantasy X meant switching to X-2 (what a grand idea).

I got angry with the first battle, but then I started to see where my initial addiction came from.  I actually never beat X-2 (a dead PS2 happened) so it'll be great to go at it again.

I got a bit further in Bravely Default too.
I used a Bravely Second thing to get out of a pinch in one of the boss fights...
Tiz: "You mean you don't have to wait for charge SP?"
BRRR.  Hell, the fact you could BUY SP with *real* money was bad enough, I definitely don't need a game character telling me about it.

I'm loving the boss battles though, the harder they get the more interesting they get.
38  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: April 15, 2014, 01:58:42 AM
It's apparently STILL snowing in Toronto.

I am dreading winter next year.

I have been biking to work for 3 weeks already. Of course in about a month, I'll be complaining how balls hot it is. (Technically how humid it is).

Does anyone have any idea why I would need a Tuberculosis shot before I go to school in Canada?

Didn't we cure this like 60 or 70 years ago?

Apparently a few "cured" diseases are making a comeback due to non-immunized kids....  yeah.
Measles has also come back to 'Ssauga as well.


My band, Pool of Thorns, had an invigorating day in the studio today.  We're pretty excited about the new recordings we're doing, updating the demo, eventually doing an album, hopefully getting one of our new 'n improved recordings on the radio...

I'm proud of you!  I know you've always been a man who took music seriously so I'm glad it's giving back some love!
39  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Gust making a spiritual successor to Ar Tonelico: Ar no Surge on: April 15, 2014, 12:00:13 AM
Oh, well I'm in Phase 3 so maybe I'm closer to the end than I thought...

uh oh...abrupt ending incoming.

Well, I don't know about that.  These phases can be pretty long.

Heh in that case.

It is interesting that it is so ...verbose this time.  I wonder if that will affect whether we see this game (and if so, hopefully the localization won't be as hack as the NISA one.. =/ )
40  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed on: April 14, 2014, 11:58:52 PM
So nobody is talking about this?  The listing has been taken down now, but it seems unlikely they would have made it in the first place if there wasn't something in the works...

It IS really curious (and of course the "Tales of Pessimists" are crying woes and are resolute in disbelieving it till Namdai says so themselves... which is probably the smart thing to do; but I get sick of reading 50 posts in a row about it).  But I have my reservations:

(1) I've heard mixed things for Hearts R (granted, reviews are more positive for Hearts R than Innocence R by a mile)
(2) I don't have a Vita (one day, maybe, maybe just the "right" title will make me jump and spend the money I don't have heh)
(3) Personally speaking, I thought Hearts "did more" for the NDS than it does as a budget remake for the Vita, so I'm kinda sour about the whole thing.  I'd have loved Hearts for the NDS more than I care about a Vita version I guess.

And not to sound like a graphics whore, but I mean, c'mon, are fancy filters that hard to apply to "glossy" over PS2-level graphics?  .

41  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: A Game Journal Reborn on: April 14, 2014, 10:37:00 PM

...I used him to kill Dark Valefor when I realized access to Besaid, the "forgotten" destruction sphere, and Anima were hanging on winning that fight.
42  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Gust making a spiritual successor to Ar Tonelico: Ar no Surge on: April 14, 2014, 10:08:18 PM
Oh, well I'm in Phase 3 so maybe I'm closer to the end than I thought...

uh oh...abrupt ending incoming.

I've really been enjoying the OST meanwhile.
43  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Recently watched Episodes of TELEVISION BOX offerings! on: April 14, 2014, 04:07:07 PM

I think you mean

44  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Bravely Default: Flying Fairy on: April 14, 2014, 03:50:47 PM
Do people really hate Ringabel's VA that much?

I find it humorous.

I dislike Agnes' the most.  She has a great actress behind her, just boring stick-up-the-ass dialogue and muppet voice makes her no fun to listen to.

I think Edea's VA is the most on the ball.  And a lot of people seem to hate Tiz's voice, but I think it suits for the 'guy next door' kind of voice.
45  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back on: April 14, 2014, 03:48:15 PM
I watched Idiocracy again tonight. Still funny and alarmingly plausible.

THe opening five minutes and "St. God's Hospital" gets me every time... and agreed, it feels alarmingly plausible.
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