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6316  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Round 5: Secret of Mana vs Kingdom Hearts on: March 13, 2013, 09:16:48 PM
I'd still say they're kinda different, but I'l play along.

Co-op: Secret (well, KH had none, but co-op is awesome)
Magic: Secret (first KH sucked for this, I prefer the roulette in BOTH Secret and future-KH's than going into a menu while you're fighting)
Battling: Kingdom (honestly, the weapon recharge thing in Secret of Mana sucked donkey dick)
Music: Secret (mainly because listening to some KH songs were just a musical portion turned instrumental for the whole stage *groan*; the "made for Kingdom Hearts" tracks [ie; not Disney-related] were great though)
Characters:  Kingdom, oddly.  Even if they are pretentious anime riddles where like half the cast has issues of mistaken identity or some shit.  Secret of Mana was kinda boring for this, but SeikenDen 3 was a vast improvement (dunno if we're getting into that here though)
6317  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Youtube on: March 13, 2013, 07:21:14 PM
http://youtu.be/aIyQn9jRjP8
Compilation of Prank Wake Ups.  I like the one with the yelling Russians and the table (simple and perfect)

http://youtu.be/z92bykaeV4o
Big Lebowski Gutterballs Dream Segment.  Which is just good stuff to revisit

http://youtu.be/QvWziE0o8dw
What lesbians think about penises!
(and at least one woman there I'd be gay for)

http://youtu.be/Bd3gw3caSEk
Relay C-C-Combo!  What gays think about vaginas!
(and at least one fella I'd ask to turn over to the darkside. : / )



6318  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Surprise! Drakengard 3 on: March 13, 2013, 03:22:42 PM
^Being excited for Drakengard is pretty weird, that's why I said in my previous that I was shocked to see so many people excited over this.

Our NieR thread did really well for an odd release like this (i.e.; where gameplay wasn't the selling point of "a game").
6319  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: A Step Back: FF-X on: March 13, 2013, 03:06:30 PM
Horror stories are usually about stuff like that or even skipping "spoken" dialogue which leaves you out of a percent. 

... Hm, I kinda like the idea of endings based on % completion than specific event-requirements.
6320  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Surprise! Drakengard 3 on: March 13, 2013, 03:03:49 PM
Yeah, me neither actually.  THe only trouble I have with controls with most games though is camera being "inverse" or not.  At the very least, I find I get use to most game controls even if they start as wonky.

Also, I should add.  I think the BIGGER excitement in this is the return of the reputable staff, because being excited for Drakengard is sort of...an odd thing[?]. 
6321  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Surprise! Drakengard 3 on: March 13, 2013, 02:38:04 PM
Maybe Parn is willing to give his copy away for free, Fadedsun. :P
But yeah, NieR is strictly about it's world, music, and story before I'd argue it's about its gameplay.
6322  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: A Step Back: FF-X on: March 13, 2013, 02:36:51 PM
Maaaaaaaan, play your game without a guide like a real man. Don't give in to being a cheater.

Not when the 100% requirements are nothing short of ridiculous.
6323  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Surprise! Drakengard 3 on: March 13, 2013, 02:31:55 PM
It technically is... but well... *shrug*.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vEP2iZ52P-DWhQBQ2Is6R8Wjao99AGi0YuWShTvA-tA/preview#
Just read the Grimoire Nier when you're done.  My first read = Mind blown.
Nier is like ten bucks these days too, so yippee!
6324  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Surprise! Drakengard 3 on: March 13, 2013, 02:08:21 PM
Aeo summarized the "legacy" pretty nicely:

...that's not the real reason why Drakengard 1 is so memorable. No. Its the fact that both the narrative and the ascetics grow more and more grimdark/crazy until it hits full on batshit insanity. Its entirely a game about increasingly bad shit happening to bad people while everyone becomes more and more fucked over. In a way, it turns most JRPG plots onto their sides, since, as often happens in video games, the world starts off peaceful but grows ever more dangerous as the events in the game goes on, but with the caveat that unlike in those games, the hero doesn't magically save the day by beating the big bad, and in fact, doing so just makes matters worse.
.

Like I said earlier too; literally the "nicest" things in these games is the first two or so chapters, everything after gets dark, creepy, and various shades of disturbing.  In that, it's unique, it's hardly a tale of "hope" like most RPGs try to pass along; sometimes even your best efforts aren't rewarded.  Essentially, it's like looking at something gross: it's disturbing, but you can't look away.  NieR had a similar effect: but it was more of just a well told and sad story.  And I know I'm just repeating myself by this point, but the idea of making pacts with all your favorite mythological or fairy tale monsters in exchange for something you value is just cool (becoming awesome at the cost of something just feels more real than super-anime-magic-powers I guess), and the game has hack-n-slash elements that's a lot like Wednesday Addam's wonderfully bloody play.
6325  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Random and Amazing Pictures, Please! on: March 13, 2013, 03:23:59 AM
http://www.leenks.com/link448663.html

Ten ways to escape an awkward situation.  brilliant!
6326  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Surprise! Drakengard 3 on: March 13, 2013, 03:10:18 AM
You say stuff that says nothing.  What is your point, man!?

If it helps, I had fun with it.  I had more fun with the story though. :D

I'm just teasing. It just bums me out when I see one of the few games this gen that had a real spark of originality get dissed. :/

Lardy, have you seen how many posts I've made here?
I'm with you, just not about the gameplay.  Twi sides of the same coin, buddy
6327  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Surprise! Drakengard 3 on: March 13, 2013, 01:37:40 AM
Nier was hardly a standout in gameplay unless you count its fun use of ripping-off other gaming genres

Don't make me hurt you.


*groan*  It certainly wasn't too thrilling.  The bullet hell was kinda cool -- if you like bullet hell (another way to see it is really lazy attack patterns).  But the game obviously made a point to [at least] parody Zelda.  I'm not saying it was bad, but it wasn't exactly original, and it's been done better.

ANYWAYS.  I'm guessing I'm not the only one who noticed that the chicka with the flower in her eye looks exactly like (or very similar to) Kainés.

...I wonder if Evans is coming back to sing a bit.


Three cheers to Dice. Nier has certainly proven to be the most overrated of the RPG waters I've tasted because of this lot.

It was enjoyable enough; but it's one of those rare cases where Cavia was just a better storyteller than gameplay designer (aside from a few unique elements -- and by god, I loved levelling up weapons for the stupid-awesome stories).  Lard apparently begs to differ, of course.

But I'm not too sure what you were going in expecting; the praise was more geared to story and world and characters -- and you're not exactly the biggest JRPG-pundit going around here.... but I like you for your personality and great taste in art and sometimes music! :D
6328  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Surprise! Drakengard 3 on: March 13, 2013, 01:01:39 AM
*groan*  It certainly wasn't too thrilling.  The bullet hell was kinda cool -- if you like bullet hell (another way to see it is really lazy attack patterns).  But the game obviously made a point to [at least] parody Zelda.  I'm not saying it was bad, but it wasn't exactly original, and it's been done better.

I will kill you slowly and then dance about on your grave.

You say stuff that says nothing.  What is your point, man!?

If it helps, I had fun with it.  I had more fun with the story though. :D
6329  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Surprise! Drakengard 3 on: March 13, 2013, 12:49:54 AM
Nier was hardly a standout in gameplay unless you count its fun use of ripping-off other gaming genres

Don't make me hurt you.


*groan*  It certainly wasn't too thrilling.  The bullet hell was kinda cool -- if you like bullet hell (another way to see it is really lazy attack patterns).  But the game obviously made a point to [at least] parody Zelda.  I'm not saying it was bad, but it wasn't exactly original, and it's been done better.

ANYWAYS.  I'm guessing I'm not the only one who noticed that the chicka with the flower in her eye looks exactly like (or very similar to) Kainés.

...I wonder if Evans is coming back to sing a bit.
6330  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Surprise! Drakengard 3 on: March 12, 2013, 11:32:23 PM
I loved Drakengard 1 a 2's first cutscene....because, y'know...shit is still "normal" then.

The Drakengard games have a lot of potential though, I love the mythology and world, and while I don't wonder if they'll "lighten up" (mind you, I can do without the giant cannibal babies), they obviously can't hit the same plot a third time (the seals, the red sky, etc.) -- so I just wonder what the plan is.
Either way, their poor world just can't catch a fucking break.  I'm already sure the third game is just gonna end with blowing up the world so no one else has to deal with anymore shit (yeah, it's that bad, read on at the Tropes site).

Also, a Nier sequel I don't think /can/ be in the cards any more than maybe another reference in Drakengard
Code:
IIRC, the end of Nier basically indicates that humans *will* die out, and your daughter isn't really cured, and in one of the endings you don't even exist anymore.
Even still, I wonder what the series will be like *without* Cavia.  Quite frankly, the only thing they really had going in Nier was the talent that's just been announced for Drakengard3 (the composer, artist, and director/writer combo); Nier was hardly a standout in gameplay unless you count its fun use of ripping-off other gaming genres (from Zelda to Diabo's 3/4 perspective in maze dungeons, to even bullet hell segments) and kinda fun spread of spells at your disposal.  I'm actually optimistic and hoping for better gameplay this time around; with all due respect to [the now defunct] Cavia, they really didn't have a good grasp of how to make a game that was all that fun to play.


...anyways, I also liked Drakengard II; thought it was pretty cool.  Urick bumps it half a letter grade.

EDIT:  Now having played Nier, Ending E in Drakengard is pretty cool.
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