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6496  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: character development on: April 18, 2011, 01:07:06 AM
It's kind of a hard question to answer, and a real "to each his own" sort of dilemma and I'm not exactly sure how you can't objectively say what really qualifies.  I think most games prioritize other things than story and deep characterizations.  Anyway, you get this kind of stuff across most story medium's,good characters, bad ones, good story, bad ones, and some meeting up of both or none, or a bit of all.

Find me a game with EXCELLENT character development and, no matter, you'll probably get someone to argue against it.  I don't get all the fuss on the topic.  Very few games pull of anything excellently, and most "good games" are a dime a dozen anyways (as it should be).

All in all, I'm not big on characterization, a good story is what can keep my awake at night thinking it, but rarely the people unless they're tied to the big drama of the story.  One thing I hate about character development is how "tacked on" it usually is.  By some fantastic coincidence in FF7, theres a part where you just happen to visit places meaningful to your part, where you just gotta stick your nose into and side-track from the point a bit.  I give Vesperia credit on that, not many titles do a more "here and now" perspective (unlike Abyss' famous past-expose on each main character).

I just wonder; when developing, what comes first?  The story concept or the gameplay concept?
6497  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: April 18, 2011, 12:48:17 AM
So from what it looks like, this is the Tell Us About What You're Playing Thread? Is it?

I have no idea, I just talk about boobs on this thread.

Am I wrong?

Yes

Will I be hated for this post?

The rest of the forum goers are now grabbing pitchforks as I type this. Me, I'm just making a vanilla cream pie, so you wont have to worry about me.

This is a new and scary forum. Why can't we just talk about what games we're playing right now? And boobs too, DPK. Boobs can be nice on occasion.

Talking about games is what the Game Journal is for.  This is for REEEL LAAIFE stuff.  Though it can involve "I sat on my ass and played games", you could probably also mention what you ate (Star/Yoda), philosphy and self and other loathing (Mesh), disturbing job stories (Leyv) or the lack of life you have because you study all the goddamn time (several of us, I'm sure, but I count myself here as well).
6498  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: character development on: April 18, 2011, 12:09:08 AM
Tales of's (Symphonia up), Trails in the Sky, Radiant Historia, Personas, Star Ocean (plot is in the negatives though), Suikodens (surprisingly), Valk Profile, Nier, um what else, the FF's if you havent played one by now.  I think these are all considerably deep.  Hell, sometimes the one saving grace of a poor plot comes in the form of it's characters.

So far the only SO character I found even remotely interesting is Maria. Also when you say Symphonia up do you mean all the games between Symphonia and the latest one (including such gems as Legendia and two of the three DS games) or just the ones done by the Symphonia team?

Both teams do jolly good work.   Vesperia has probably the worst told story ever, but the characters are interesting enough (the ones that are developed).

Star Ocean is a mixed bag, but given the choice, SO's characters outshine their stories... actually this can be said for most of Tri-Ace.
6499  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: character development on: April 17, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
Tales of's (Symphonia up), Trails in the Sky, Radiant Historia, Personas, Star Ocean (plot is in the negatives though), Suikodens (surprisingly), Valk Profile, Nier, um what else, the FF's if you havent played one by now.  I think these are all considerably deep.  Hell, sometimes the one saving grace of a poor plot comes in the form of it's characters.
6500  The Rest / The Bazaar / Re: RPGs and Anime for sale or trade_FREE FMA movie!!! on: April 17, 2011, 07:35:25 PM
I have Chrono Cross if you wanted.  Might be out for PSN soon, and it's still pretty cheap on eBay (hence why I have it).
6501  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Youtube on: April 17, 2011, 05:27:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMzX288nbhY&hd=1

Every martial arts movie should have Quick Time Events.


I loved that movie. WHERE'S MY ELEPHANT!!??!?!?!?!
6502  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Nintendo 3DS Launching at $249.99 on March 27 in the US on: April 17, 2011, 04:54:05 PM
Hm, looking at those comparison shots, they do seem to have created completely new character models and changed geometry and textures in the environments. If they went through the trouble of creating new assets I have to wonder if they couldn't have taken it a step further. Then again, Revelations is in a league of its own, nothing of what has been shown for the 3DS comes close, gotta give credit to capcom here.

It's amazing what they did, that's kinda why I'm bitter than Nintendo couldn't do better on their own bloody handheld.
Minor role I know, but the Hyrule knights look a step above the N64 graphics...

I did watch the camcorder vids on YT, and I like some of the visual changes, they're much less stoic anyways.  I just really gotta gear up to face the Water Temple again and a few other "fun" puzzles (I did find it funny how much easier the water palace in Twilight Princess was :D )...

EDIT: music video for the 3DS Prof Layton game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmShecEbfHU&feature=player_embedded#at=57
This is awesome -- If I ever did a song for a video game, I'd love to be remade in "its" style haha
6503  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Community Photo Thread: 2007 Edition on: April 17, 2011, 04:49:38 PM
Does being big-boned exist??  I have no idea how some girls about my age are at 95 lbs....  I like steak and all.  I'm more the type to work out than to switch to all veggie-diet (I'd eat it more if it meant smaller boobs though...hmm). x(  The closest I ever got was 115lbs, and people said I was "really thin" (obviously not the twig, size-0 thin, but you know what I mean... actually girls that size can be creepy, when thin pants are still baggy on 'em). 

Love your pooch by the way. x)
6504  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The 3rd Birthday on: April 17, 2011, 01:08:21 PM
4 hours in and I don't think I can continue playing this game. Music is the only aspect of it I actually like. Gameplay got too damn boring. Story aint that good either and I can't recognize this Aya...

Please, someone, tell me the ending is worth it!

No. God no.

It's pretentious Squeenix mind-fuck.  More importantly, pretentious.
6505  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Sony to announce "Major Franchise" new HD collection soon on: April 17, 2011, 01:07:12 PM
It'd be weird to do FFX because to me it's not the graphics that really date the game. It's the terrible dialog and voice acting.

I blame the dialogue more.  Bender DiMaggio is awesome. x)
I do think Yuna's voice is one of the worst things to happen to FF as a whole though; there's something not right about it, she sounds like she doesn't understand the language instead of soft and frail or whatever, worst is it doesn't transfer well to X-2.
6506  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Anime/Manga Journal on: April 17, 2011, 01:05:38 PM
I'm almost done with season 1 of Darker Than Black. It's kind of confusing and the story is all over the place, but it gets brownie points from me for having a Chinese main character who's a badass normal and badass abnormal rolled in one, and isn't treated as just the comic-relief guy.

I have a new favorite anime character now.

I do a tip of the hat to the Japanese doing good Chinese characters.... and non-Japanese (ie; Euro-mericans) that aren't blue eyed and blond.  Still have yet to find the latter.

Watched the first episode of ...um, Denpa Onna to Seishun Otoko (which literally translated to the fun title: “Electric Wave Woman and Youthful Man”).  Whats with making lead guys in harems look like absolute losers?  He's okay, he's got a dick haircut, but seems personable enough.  Truthfully, I only started watching this because of the appealing and interesting opening theme and animation.  Gorgeous animation, but the "aunt" character is one of the worst things to happen to anime all year, who's like a 39-year-old 8-year-old.  Weird story, hopefully it goes somewhere because meh. 

All this hubbub about Darker than Black makes me hope its something a bit more on the thought provoking side.
6507  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: April 17, 2011, 12:39:59 PM

Bwahahhahahaha.

Dice needs to read up on the history of RPGs



Sticks... and... STONES!!
6508  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: April 17, 2011, 02:40:15 AM
So I've been working on one of my two pen and paper RPGs recently... It was supposed to be Persona in America (done the right way (I'm looking at you, Revelations: Persona)), but all the Persona mechanics just didn't seem to transfer well enough, so I decided to change it to something more like Shin Megami Tensei if...

I feel wrong for doing that. Should I?

Not too sure what to say without the context of this here.  What is a paper-pen RPG?

I just took my Matrix Blue Pill that makes me wake up like nothing ever happened.  Huge headache all day... Took my pill, and essentially, I'll see you all later.
6509  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: PSone Classics PSN rpgs on: April 17, 2011, 01:37:43 AM
I wonder if they'd remake FF6 the way they did 1-4.  Fucking hell, they need to get on FF's 5 and 6 already.  How the fuck did they justify this whole FF4 remakes bonanza and not even consider the next two?  Something better be sizzling...!!

((insert Yoda's Hulk smiley here))
6510  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: A dark game? on: April 17, 2011, 01:30:06 AM
Visual novels: Saya no Uta is pretty goddamn morbid.  ...no seriously, it's a plot point to simply "be" like that.

Nier (not PSP... but not many "dark" PSP titles... because otherwise, aside from a few minor additions, and old, Breath of Fire V and the SMTs was the last that I can really say stuck to memory)
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