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8596  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Triggers and Crosses, the wonderful and horrible universe of the Chrono series. on: October 23, 2010, 11:54:57 PM
I loved Chrono Cross.

Most people who have problems with the story simply didn't understand it.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Main_Page.html
props to them.  props to them indeed.
8597  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Finished Radiata Stories for 3rd time ***SPOILERS*** on: October 23, 2010, 11:54:16 PM
*Youtubes fairy ending*
Oh wow, she lives... man, the gap between my second game and third was so long that I had completely forgotten.
But Gantz died in that one =(

It's was a big dramatic opera by the end... and what do you expect in an opera but a sad ending?? :P (generalizing)

I think worst of all, the absolute poo-poo ending, the Human Path, contains arguably the better characters.  Nice low blow thar.
8598  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Favorite and Least Favorite RPGs on: October 23, 2010, 11:52:52 PM
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FFIV, XII, mystic quests, XIII

Bah.  Mystic Quest is an amazing game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UX94DCn6BU&feature=related

LISTEN TO THAT MUSIC.  LISTEN TO IT AND REPENT.

IMO, the battle, boss and final battle themes were better than FFIII, IV, VII, IX, and X (off the top of my head).
8599  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Finished Radiata Stories for 3rd time ***SPOILERS*** on: October 23, 2010, 11:13:02 PM
and I am yet again bummed by how you just can't save Ridley.
RS is a weird game in the sense that whatever you do, whatever path you choose, ultimately you fail to do the only thing you wanted to do.

Still, I guess I like the game because of that unique charm of melancholy.

For those that played the whole thing, how do you feel about the end?

The non-human path had her kinda alive, no?

I thought this game went from slapstick to serious in a manner of second... it really bummed me out and made me hate it that much more.
The battle system was lacking, and while the world was charming, there was far little going on, and the 24-minute days just made me feel too much like "same shit, different day".

This game had way more potential IMO.

Anyways - play Nier or Drakengaard if you want to counter the ending-blues with something even more depressing.
8600  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Triggers and Crosses, the wonderful and horrible universe of the Chrono series. on: October 23, 2010, 10:40:34 PM
---edit---

Actually...

I suspect the real reason for the backlash against CC is that most of the people going into it had really strong memories of playing CT when they were younger and associated that game fondly with childhood and simply didn't like having something that they perceived as fucking with their childhood.

Lets go with this one, shall we?

I'm actually sad he got rid of the rest, I liked it pre-edit.

Chrono Trigger is a simple game wrapped in a brilliant execution - time travel and it's consequences impacting the future.  Brilliant for that whole "save the world" premise seen in every RPG ever.

CC was received way too harsh.  But, as you say, Square had never really been the best story tellers.  They haven't, and still aren't (remember FF13 narrating it all to you? Not so much as a fucken fresco to explain anything, or something before the main events?  Realistic?  Sure.  Ideal?  They could do better).

Did CTDS sell that bad so as to not even warrant consideration for a new title?
How odd, if there's any game series people would flock to (or, for CC haters, "give a second chance") it's the Chrono series.  Maybe.  Maybe it's too late, and people have moved on.  Damned shame.  I personally thought dimension hopping was a perfect way to not skim on the time travel concept that was already done.
8601  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Triggers and Crosses, the wonderful and horrible universe of the Chrono series. on: October 23, 2010, 08:01:26 PM
I hate this argument.  I think it was summed up BEST by when mentioning how all people want is a Chrono Trigger 2, not a new vision.  But shit like that WOULDN't work on a PSX, it was time to move on and I thought Cross adapted 3D as well as 2D Zelda games went in 3D.

SPOILS??? (minor)

I thought the story picked up on a curious fragment, and the connection to the original story were appreciated and deep, hearing about schala's fate was also intriguing.  A bad ending?  Most definitely - it wraps little up.  Bad story telling?  Most certainly, you kinda just go one place to another, and all major plot point are either too poorly or quickly explained.  There was a lot less world to travel and with a lot less variety that the concept of "time travel" offered so nicely by travelling to different epochs.  I really think people are waaay to critical on the game, it was much more fresh (gameplay wise) than it's predecessor at the very least.

I think it would be stupid NOT to continue it - GIVEN THE PRODUCERS (especially with how Squeenix's games are nowadays, all quality, no fun) GET THEIR HEAD OUT OF THEIR ASSES AND ACTUALLY MAKE SOMETHING WORTH PLAYING.

I'm trying to think what Trigger did SO WELL, so amazingly, so astonishingly, so ineffably so as to make Cross be thrown into the toiler so much by a number of gamers on every other level.
Cross is readily available on ebay and amazon, and it's cheap.  Go get it, it IS worth it - especially at the price you're buying it for.

I'm sick of silent protagonists though, and much like the first game, I can't really hate on the KidxSerge relations because they're just as out of place at times as the Marle and Crono ones.  I never really thought a big bond amongst all of them.
8602  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Community Photo Thread: 2007 Edition on: October 23, 2010, 11:15:17 AM
I agree.  I love Canada in general just because we experience the seasons and a lot of phenomena nicely.  I love the aurora I saw out North-West, and Fall is my favorite time of year.  I hate the BITTER, February cold, but I love breathing in cold air.  I dont like really really hot temperatures too haha x)

I love Southern Ontario - but I'd just complain more if it's further north....too cold - I give you credit especially if it's getting cold...can't imagine maritime areas for that either.

Eugh - sorry, don't mean to sound so complainyy haha

I'll complain with you. Maritime winter is brutal; they always seem never ending. I honestly don't mind the cold or the snow though. It's the wind I hate and boy does it ever get windy. My campus is only a 7 minute walk away, but if it's too windy out (usually enough to make it feel like -40 plus), no dice (heh no pun intended). Summer is also nice and I don't mind the heat. It's just the humidity. And spring, half of it is muddy, wet and it smells.

But for as much as I complain as well, I love Canada and couldn't imagine living anywhere else. I should get a few pics off my phone that I took and post em.

Yeah yeah, same for S. Ontario... Humid summers (so groossss) and stupidly windy winters (when the cold hits my eyes they tear up sometimes).  It's a love hate relationship - maybe that's why I'm so keen on Fall and Spring. =/
8603  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Community Photo Thread: 2007 Edition on: October 22, 2010, 06:37:05 PM
That a nice picture of your campus Dice. I love living in Canada in just for the fall. The other seasons suck, at least in NB. But the east coast where I live is like that too now. Purrty leaves and a nice river = awesome scenery. It's getting f'ing cold though.

I agree.  I love Canada in general just because we experience the seasons and a lot of phenomena nicely.  I love the aurora I saw out North-West, and Fall is my favorite time of year.  I hate the BITTER, February cold, but I love breathing in cold air.  I dont like really really hot temperatures too haha x)

I love Southern Ontario - but I'd just complain more if it's further north....too cold - I give you credit especially if it's getting cold...can't imagine maritime areas for that either.

Eugh - sorry, don't mean to sound so complainyy haha
8604  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Favorite and Least Favorite RPGs on: October 22, 2010, 06:27:07 PM
My List:

Favorite:

  • Kingdom Hearts
  • Final Fantasy V
  • Odin Sphere
  • Rogue Galaxy

Honorable Mentions

  • Pokemon Gold, Paper Mario: TTYD, and the Digimon World series - for being the best RPGs I'd played before I even new what an RPG was

Least Favorites

  • Valkyrie Profile - This is my anti-game. Long, drawn out cutscenes about characters I don't care about. Gameplay that's broken up into sections that all suck in their own ways instead of having a solid combination; seperate story scenes, an overworld where you're just supposed to fly around until you find something, flawed platforming sections, and combat sections that utilize the single most simplistic and boring combat system I have ever experienced. This is one of those games I wished I'd never played, but I'm glad I did, because thanks to it my standards dropped a whole 5 bars.
  • Star Ocean: Till The End of Time - It lived up to it's name. I have never played a game with more padding in in story in my entire life, and the poor pacing exasperates everything. The repetitive and unintuitive combat system, the terrible AI, the boring locales, the terrible voice acting, the broken item creation/customization system - all of it is made worse by how exceedingly long you have to put up with it all. And it never gets any better, it just gets worse.
  • Star Ocean (SFC) - You'd think I would've learned from TTET, but I didn't. I decided to give it a shot since a good fellow recommended it to me on the basis that it was his favorite SNES RPG, and the original was even better than the remake. From then on I knew never to take recommendation from him ever again. The story was dull as dishwater and poorly paced, and the battles were laughably easy and simplistic. In fact, the battle system is second only to VP as the worst I'v ever experienced. The rest of the game simply isn't worth mentioning. With that said, the remake is fantastic.
  • Final Fantasy VI - Both The story and the characters were disappointingly shallow and childish, the gameplay was unbalanced with plenty of exploitable techniques that make an easy game even easier, and there are so many sub events and mini-games that it never really feels like I'm playing a single, focused game.
  • Kingdom Hearts II - Where do I start...The story made no sense, the combat was actually reduced to press-X-until-you-win, they introduced quick time events, included more pointless mini games (though some were actually more fun than the main game), and the worlds were made more liniear, reducing the emphasis on platforming, puzzle solving, and exploration that, along with the simple yet still skill-heavy combat, made the first game such a blast to play. I have never been more disappointed in a sequel in all my life, and I hope no other game ever tops it.
  • Golden Sun
  • The entire Dragon Quest series - I don't know what it is about this series, but it's always rubbing me the wrong way, even though it should embody everything that I consider good in a JRPG. It's story is always simple adventure story, which I usually go for, but in DQ it just makes things painfully predictable and boring. The gameplay is also very difficult and in some games it offers plenty of depth to customize your characters, but the combat is so simplistic and generic that it bores me to sleep more often than not. The biggest issue seems to be the generic Medievel Fantasy world, which for one reason or another I simply don't want "to be a part of" so to speak. Maybe someday things will click for me, but right now not only do I dislike them, but I'm even annoyed at the fact that I dislike them :(
  • Super Mario RPG: The Seven Stars
  • Everything made by Mistwalker - Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, ASH, you name it, it was a disappointment. While competant games in and of themselves, it's always the execution and some arbitrary gameplay mechanic that makes battles more tedious than they should be that holds them back from being as great as they should be.
  • Tales of Vesperia - Maybe it's just because I played it right after Tales of Symphonia, but it just felt too familiar, and what was different wasn't as good. It kinda turned my off the series for a while until I went back to its roots with Tales of Phantasia and fell in love them all over again
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Pretty ballsy first post.  I have a few beefs, but only better for debate.
Kingdom Hearts as a favorite is bizarre speaking you *hated* KHII as much as to put it on a WORST list.
I personally lost interest a little more than halfway - the 2nd one at least tried to do more gameplay wise.  I do respect how you say the story "makes no sense" - that couldn't be truer.  I can't even imagine what the reference notes are like for the scenario writers.

Final Fantasy V as a *favorite* is also a pretty tall assumption.  Battle system and difficulty?  Hell yes, and the Advance version only adds to that fun.  Charming story?  I can't say I see it and I appreciate that "classic" stuff.  Butz (lol) had NO reason to involve himself, and there's little to connect with.  The story is laughable considering the final boss, and cute with the relationship our heroines have.

Odin Sphere???  Reaally?????  It's on my *like* list, certainly not *favorite*.  The story has that charm that I didn't see in FFV.  It's old-school, but in a Shakespearean/fairytale way: love, heroics, honour, magic.  Very sweet.  Broken?  Definitely.  Repetitive?  Incredibly.  Slow?  Slow down and a half!
It's hard to get the drive to start a new character.

Rogue Galaxy?  Besides the obvious gameplay issues and plot problems... I hate Jaster.  Leave it at that, I'm bored with typing.

Your worst...

Valkyrie Profile?? Really?!  
I think you missed the point.  The gameplay was wonderfully difficult, and the story was actually ABLE to be deep, despite such minor introductions to characters.  I can see how that can suck after more than one play though. but I'm surprised this is on a WORST.

I understand peoples hate for Star Ocean, ...or much of any Tri-Ace, but I wish people would get the point.  You know how some bars serve food?  It's bar food, and nothing exotic, but it serves well for the bar.
Replace bar with gameplay, and food with story.  Tri-Ace games are more about the gameplay first, then story.  This serves that crowd of Nier players who don't see anything special in gameplay, but LOVE the story.
I already traded Nier in.  I love it, but story isn't enough to keep me to a game.  I *play* video games so I can *play* something good.

I agree with Mistwalker...wow-verage. (wow+average)
And I agree entirely on Dragon Quest and hate people who love it.... x(

Super Mario RPG, I think you missed the point.  The game could be fun, and at times difficult.  Sidequests were abundant, and the timing battle system and puzzles had their charm.  To each their own - I thought it was great for SNES.  Something about hating on SNES games feels weird...they're like the ancestors who paved the way to gaming today.  SO1 maybe wasn't the best on the SNES, but it was real-time RPG combat in a nice early form.  And graphically, it was unequaled (for that system)

Hating Tales of Vesperia seems odd when you like Symphonia.  I thought Vesp was a step-up in regards to most gameplay aspects.  More to do anyways, and free-run is stupidly appreciated.

Your honourable mentions make me sad.
Pokemon is a kids series, I don't care what anyone says.  This Water Type killing Fire type in one hit is for the birds - it feels more like a good poker hand: you can't lose with the right cards/pokemon.
The extras are "cute", but I don't care to bake cakes, and dig in the ground, and collect 150 (half useless) critters).
The Digimon RPGs are a joke.  The first one was an absolute MESS to play, and haven't really outgrown catering to kids.

I digress.  I like and hate some of your opinions; all the more fun haha
8605  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Community Photo Thread: 2007 Edition on: October 22, 2010, 05:56:04 PM

What I did in class today.  Look up Richard Serra and Titled Arc...good for a laugh, inspired by as well.


Mmm, I like my campus walks. It's pretty.  And in a stereotypical Canadian fashion, our leaves are red!! :D


On a walk through campus, I spotted a dear!!  ....can you see it?!?!  ...can you...?
It's hard to see, but it's smack dab in the middle of the image, and it's ass facing the camera perfectly... ...Hmm.
8606  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Who is the most WOmanliest JRPG hero? on: October 22, 2010, 05:06:11 PM
Odd thing about tifa.jpg is it's actually a closer representation to her than anything SE made since ff7. After which apparently someone got confused and gave her Rinoa's head and asscape.


Psshuh - thought I'd try it myself.
Included with wonderful non-matching socks!

Credit to the ass cape though, at least it's more intuitive than a lot of NA character designs. 
Funny how we'll never see a balance between the whisical but original JRPG designs and the more stoic but down-to-earth WRPG (and etc) designs... at least no time soon.
8607  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: They say you can always learn something from every other person... on: October 22, 2010, 04:43:46 PM
I can teach people how to fake Parking Passes... I consider this valuable in the amount of money it saves. b^_^d
8608  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Shining Force 3 sucks balls on: October 21, 2010, 11:13:47 PM
Than don't play it.

A jolly good point indeed, mates!!!
8609  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Youtube on: October 21, 2010, 07:06:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Q6AwrGUkQ
I don't know *what* that fuck is talking, but it is quotable...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54Lnnkxup2g
Honest, harsh, but true black fella telling it like it is!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjsZDaXMlpM
40 seconds in, a person turns INTO playdoh!
8610  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Halloween Haps on: October 21, 2010, 07:02:41 PM
My parents decided to up and go on a cruise to coincidentally collide with Halloween...so the annual tasks falls unto me.  My dog will bark, I will hold her back and hope the (adorable) costumed-kids don't run off.

I've never really done anything cool for Halloween - no big party. The one college bar that was throwing an event was too full when we got to the doors....it's destiny I don't do anything cool. :P ...lol
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